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Guest		28-Nov-2009 20:41
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saranda		02-Apr-2009 17:19
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saranda		02-Apr-2009 17:19
te duam

Pančevo		30-Nov-2008 18:32
Internet je pun idiota, gde god je moguće ostaviti komentar oni se prvi jave. Fotografije nisu loše mada bi sve to mnogo lepše izgledalo da je slikano leti, ove jesenje su nekako sumorne. Inače pozivam sve da posete Beograd i Novi Sad koji već nisu.

Guest		28-Nov-2008 21:18
however stefan serb is very veyr ugly. Is only my modest opinion cheers

Ned Keca		24-Jul-2008 09:59
I wonder if anyone on this forum knows information regarding to "Serbs" being able to reclaim their land in Bihac/Kosovo......In Australia we've heard on the grapvine that if a family has land etc and pays outstanding rates they have one/two years to come forward with their papers showing ownership,pay rates etc and get their land back...??? Can anyone there provide any information of any sort regarding this Thanks....N Keca

gologazov		14-Jun-2008 13:38
Our old city is full of interesting things. More than beograd. Come to see Old Bazar, Sveti Spas Church, Kamen Most and Tvrdina Kale. We are the sons of the glorious Vardar river.

gologazov		14-Jun-2008 13:31
what's happened zoran? Are you envious? I like Beograd but Skopije is now another planet. Come and see, no one former yugoslav republik have our economical standards and infrastructure. Skopije is a planet of lights, shops, clubs, youth. And our country is like a rising sun now.

zoran		12-Jun-2008 11:57
@gologazov: Skopje? The capital of Ex-Yugo? Are you serious mate? What do you have to show? Nowdays Skopje is nothing more than a huge cement block, after the earthquakes you had back in '63.... Of course we can talk about the older part of Skopje, but there's nothing interesting there... And stop your stupid nationalism.

gologazov		01-Jun-2008 21:11
Beograd is not bad. But now Is Skopje the real capitol of Fomer Yugoslavia. Macedonia is a tiger now. Our capitol is full of lights and wonderull shops. It surpassed Beograd under almost all point of views. Now Skopje is respected and we are the pride of Former Yugoslavia. come to us

gologazov		01-Jun-2008 21:11
Beograd is not bad. But now Is Skopje the real capitol of Fomer Yugoslavia. Macedonia is a tiger now. Our capitol is full of lights and wonderull shops. It surpassed Beograd under almost all point of views. Now Skopje is respected and we are the pride of Former Yugoslavia. come to us

Guest		15-Apr-2008 12:58
i mean to say hungarians and bulgarians have back stabbed serbians

Guest		15-Apr-2008 12:58
idiot guest it is bulgarians who have backstabbed serbs and hungarians romanians have stuck by us and not recognised kosovo this guest is either confused between romania and bulgaria or he is as vlad said, an albanian

Vlad ROMANIAN		03-Apr-2008 18:15
Nobody stabbed him, simply he is not serbian, he is surely an albanian who like to joke.

Vlad ROMANIAN		03-Apr-2008 18:15
Nobody stabbed him, simply he is not serbian, he is surely an albanian who like to joke.

Adrian		03-Apr-2008 03:20
Yes, today, on the second day of the NATO summit in Bucharest, Albania will receive an invitation to join NATO. But I don't see how insulting Romanians will change that. I also don't see how we back stabbed you.in any way. Do you really think Romania had a say in this? You must be a fool to think that. And please take into consideration that the Romanian government hasn't recognized Kosovo's independence. I don't see how Romanians back stabbed you.

Guest		30-Mar-2008 00:21
DEATH TO ROMANIAN GYPSIES!!!!!!! KOSOVO IS SERBIA!!! U MOTHER FUCKERS BACK STABBED US!!

Vlad ROMANIAN		15-Mar-2008 22:13
Today in Cluj Napoca romanian people signed an historical page of is life: our pride is rising up. Many youngs parteciped at the ANTI-HUNGARIAN manifestation organized by Noua Dreapta. Were present also Ultras supportes of CFR Cluj Football Team who chantend "Hungarians go away". That manifestation was promoved agains National Hungarian day of 15th March who was celebrated by UDMR (Hungarian Minority Party). Romanian people showed that nobody can challenge us in our loved Fatherland! An hungarian guy who went at hungarian national day celebration was aggressed by three romanian nationalists, but our mass-media ruled by our democratic government exagerated this fact fot criminalize us. The great spirit of Iron Guard is the light of our life.

Vlad ROMANIAN		14-Mar-2008 21:24
Last day in my loved town Timisoara Noua Dreapta (our nationalist party) organized a march against Kosovo's independence and there were also some serbs from Kosovska Mitrovica. Was celebrated also a religious ortodox function for Serbia and for its brave people. Noua Dreapta is the Right radical Romanian Party who inspired to Iron Guard and I am proud of it. This great glorious party is the true and clean spirit of our Fatherland Romania. Tomorrow in the beautifull baroque Cluj Napoca, Noua Dreapta will organized a great ANTI-HUNGARIAN manifestation and in the same moment a same manifestation is organized in Bucharest. Many Many people will be present. The great spirit of the GLORIOUS CAPITAIN CORNELIU CODREANU is coming back. Finally after this criminal democracy the great and romanian spirit of Iron Guard is rising up and NOBODY will stop it. IRON GUARD WILL COME BACK IT WILL RULE AGAIN FOR SAVE OUR GLORIOUS FATHERLAND. GLORY TO ROMANIA -TINETI MINTE TREI CUVINTE GARDA MERGE INAINTE!- VISIT THE WEB SITE: www.nouadreapta.org

GALEB		10-Mar-2008 13:56
hello! I've just found this wonderful page of the gourgeous "White Town" BELI GRAD where I've spent some lovely months for a job before the "last" bombing. I'm italian and I've found in Beograd a splendid town full of friendly people. I still miss all of them! I'm very sad about the present situation and very hungry with all the idiots who still describe Serbians as barbarians. I used to walk alone in Beograd, day and nigh,t and I've never had a problem, never met a "barbarian"... only a lot of friends best regtards to you all and look forward to have you in the EU ciao a Goran, Slobodanka, Lubica, Vesna, Dubravka ... and all the friends

Guest		05-Mar-2008 17:25
you have no argument, your argument is that Albanians are Illyrians and so the entire Balkans belongs to them. That is why you can never win without the help of USA and NATO, which (by the way) don't give a fuck about you smelly peasants and are just working for their own interests. The fact that you are actually SPREADING MISERY makes me laugh. Greater states aim to unite a superior people and allow the entire region to progress, such as Greater Germany, USSR etc.... but no, your Greater Albania takes land from countries far more developed and places them in the hand of an inferior backwards nation where little has changed since the middle ages. The fact that a primitive third world country is expanding by engulfing parts of developed nations and dragging it back to centuries before. It is counter-development hahaha Jesus Christ

the_albanian		28-Feb-2008 00:06
If Albanians havn't suffered for 600 years than who has? Serbs?? Who faught the Turks after the defeat of Balkanic Alliance in Kosova? Where were the Albanians? They resisted Turks and finally were defeated? Was kosova released by turks later than Albania was? Kinda stupid to say Albanians didn't suffer... We were the Last Ottoman piece of Land to be free of Ottoman Rule. Serbs lived outside of Kosova and were not under Ottoman Rule. That is a fact. Stop forging your history buddy. Serbs today have more rights in kosova than Albanians. But because they do not want to be a part of the state, that is their own problem. There are hundreds of facts that Serbian population never reached 40% of the population in Kosova EVER. There are hundreds of Accounts of Serbs killing Albanians living north of today Kosova. You pushed the entire population north of Kosova into Kosova, and as a matter of fact, not many Albanians from Albania moved there. You have macedonians who pushed Albanians north from Skopje and there they end up in Kosova. Kosova is our stronghold and this is why the population became 95%. And of course then came the Serbinazation of Kosova aka Colonization by Vaso Cubrilovic which was carried out by Tito, Milosevic, and others... Fun times huh? There is so much history there... I mean I love Ms. Rice said... "Serbians are living 1389-1389. Move on." You have 1 year history there and you are claiming the land. Serbs you guys want to claim Kosova to be all bad but the facts is that trafficking is low and most of your trafficking goes through romania/bulgaria then to Romania/Macedonia and then to Kosova/Albania and then to Italy. Now you are telling me it is only us? Look at the chain? You think that Serbia and other nations are so innocent? they are the highway of trafficking. VLAD, Any Balkan historian who is not Albanian or Serbia or Greek or Macedonia or Romanian or Bulgaria could tell you that Albanians suffered the most out of all Balkan states. They were the victims of the West. And now we strike back and the west is in our side because we had enough of Macedonian oppression, serbian genocide and massacres, greek oppression, montenegro oppression. Enough is enough. A country that used to be twice the size was chopped into little pieces and serbs wanted even more. You live in a myth. A Story that serbian media forges and manipulates all the time. You are forgetting the crimes done all over the region. And you think we are going to submit?? In your dreams. 22 countries have officialy recognized Kosova and more will come (OIC composed of 54 countries), and some other countries who are ready to recognize us.

The_Albanian		27-Feb-2008 23:47
Is Kosovo Serbia? We ask a historian Noel Malcolm The Guardian, Tuesday February 26 2008 Article history "Kosovo is Serbia", "Ask any historian" read the unlikely placards, waved by angry Serb demonstrators in Brussels on Sunday. This is rather flattering for historians: we don't often get asked to adjudicate. It does not, however, follow that any historian would agree, not least because historians do not use this sort of eternal present tense. History, for the Serbs, started in the early 7th century, when they settled in the Balkans. Their power base was outside Kosovo, which they fully conquered in the early 13th, so the claim that Kosovo was the "cradle" of the Serbs is untrue. What is true is that they ruled Kosovo for about 250 years, until the final Ottoman takeover in the mid-15th century. Churches and monasteries remain from that period, but there is no more continuity between the medieval Serbian state and today's Serbia than there is between the Byzantine Empire and Greece. Kosovo remained Ottoman territory until it was conquered by Serbian forces in 1912. Serbs would say "liberated"; but even their own estimates put the Orthodox Serb population at less than 25%. The majority population was Albanian, and did not welcome Serb rule, so "conquered" seems the right word. But legally, Kosovo was not incorporated into the Serbian kingdom in 1912; it remained occupied territory until some time after 1918. Then, finally, it was incorporated, not into a Serbian state, but into a Yugoslav one. And with one big interruption (the second world war) it remained part of some sort of Yugoslav state until June 2006. Until the destruction of the old federal Yugoslavia by Milosevic, Kosovo had a dual status. It was called a part of Serbia; but it was also called a unit of the federation. In all practical ways, the latter sense prevailed: Kosovo had its own parliament and government, and was directly represented at the federal level, alongside Serbia. It was, in fact, one of the eight units of the federal system. Almost all the other units have now become independent states. Historically, the independence of Kosovo just completes that process. Therefore, Kosovo has become an ex-Yugoslav state, as any historian could tell you.

Guest		27-Feb-2008 19:15
Tito's time was the greatest in the history of all ex-Yugoslavian states. We were by far the most prosperous state in Eastern Europe. Our standards of living were comparable with all Western countries, and in many aspects of life were better! Albanians have been suffering for 600 years... no you fucking haven't. Before you Shiptari came to Kosovo in MASS NUMBERS during World War Two to flee the awfulness of life in Albania, Serbs were the majority. That is why I compare you to inferior races of niggers and Pakis, because you are the same in my eyes. Any neighbourhood where niggers and pakis emigrate to becomes shit over a very short period of time. The inferior races multiply at a rate only comparable to animals like rats and mice, and they slowly spread their misery and destroy what was formally great. SERBS have been suffering in Kosovo for 600 years mate, and you know it very well! It was Serbs who fought an impossible battle, and died, for the freedom of Christian Europe in 1389, it was Serbs who were occupied by 500 years by the Muslim Turks and still kept their faith, it was Serbs who had countless rebellions crushed and had their children slaughtered by Turks during this period, it was Serbs who suffered persecution at the hands of Albanians in the Second World War, it was Serbs who suffered in Kosovo under Tito, and it is Serbs suffering in Kosovo TODAY! Hundreds of thousands of Albanians came to Kosovo during the Second World War when Italy granted you (you needed their permission because you were their bitch) a Greater Albania, to punish Serbs for their refusal to co-operate and smile in the face of enemies like you cowards have always done. Tito came to power and allowed all you Albanians to stay. He also allowed more Albanians to flee over the border from Albania to escape the absolute poverty of life there. During the next 50 years you bred like ANIMALS. You don't deserve to wear the title human when you breed your dirt faster than fucking Africans. Meanwhile Serbs have 1 or 2 children per family, you were having up to 10 and sometimes more! And you are telling me you've been in Kosovo for centuries with these habits, if that were true there would be 100 million of you not 2 and a half. Serbs moved out of Kosovo. Just like whites move out of a neighbourhood that becomes overrun with nigger scum and all the problems they bring... corruption, crime, drug trafficking etc. As if there wasn't enough of your bacteria in Kosovo, after those who fled the Serbs in 1999 returned from Albania, THEY RETURNED WITH DOUBLE THE NUMBER BECAUSE ALBANIANS FROM ALBANIA CAME TOO! You have an Army, it is called UCK (KLA) and it is a living joke. Boy Scouts are superiorly trained than them. NATO is protecting your asses because you are too pathetic to protect yourselves. If NATO leaves, there won't be one Albanian left standing, you know it, I know it, end of story. All I say is the facts, you my friend, talk shit. You have got your independence through cowardice and slimey-ness, in a true Albanian fashion. Enjoy your Kosovo with no electricty and running water, I'm sure your drug trafficking and people trafficking economy will be booming within a couple of years! Enjoy your title as now the official drug and organised crime bacterial capital of Europe. I am very happy for you.

Vlad ROMANIAN		24-Feb-2008 13:33
The Albanian, everybody know very well that you albanians are a people of dickheads. Everybody know that albanians are in Europe 5millions of liquid shit. The fact that you consider a gypsy like Hashim Tachi (who is considered the best maphia-boss of Balkans for his bussinnes with Pacolli and for the murder of many journalists in Kosovo). He saved you by corruption?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.The Albanian, please don't be angry if I say that YOU ALBANIANS ARE A PEOPLE OF DICKHEADS AND LIQUID SHITS, because this is the simple truth. How you can say that Tachi saved you by corruption, if after 9 years that EU sent you MILLIARDS OF EUROS, you still have 70% of unemplyment, NO-INDUSTRIES, and the worst standard of alphabetization of Europe. This are AFRICAN STANDARDS not european. AND I LAUGH MUCH MUCH MORE WHEN I HEAR THAT YUO WANT TO COME IN EU.AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. It's incredible like you are so stupid. Hashim Tachi killed also some supporters of Rugova's Party. This show you that he is the TYPICAL ALBANIAN LIQUID SHIT and not an hero. You say that he has a great man? See his typical dark albanian skin. He is only a gypsy, who fuck you making your brain full of illusions. Also under Milosevic were corruption in Kosovo, but at that time Kosovo was poor but civil. Now is poor and full of maphia and anarchy. Romania is in EU, our young peoples win each month international prize for mathematic concours, and sciences. We have one of the greatest economical growth and only 5,2% of unemployment. All Wstern Great Lobbies invest in Romania, also Italian Confindustria had a sedium in my town Timisoara. If you come in a Romanian city you can see the work financed by european structural founds. 30milliards euros come in Romania by the start of last year. We have the first place for Oil Production, we produce Dacia Automibiles. In Transylvania and Banat each HInterland's town has new quarters with new beautifull towns and Romania actually is onw of the first Countries for Building Sectors. IN Bucharest we have the Bucharest-Trade-center with skylines. Serbia has an economical growth about 5%, and THE TIMES said that Beograd is the City of Future in Former Yougoslavian Space. Beograd have many banks and many new foreign companies. ON Kragujevac FIAT took and saved Zastava who now re-start its production. IN Serbia (like also in Romania are Motorroads). Serbia produced great personalities like NIKOLA TESLA, EMIR KUSTURICA, and heroes like KNEZ LAZAR and GAVRILO PRINCIP. What about Albania? A GREAT SHIT. You are the only country who have ELECTRICAL POLICE.AHAHAHAHAHAHHA.Because each day you albanians steal also public electrical energy. You have Mud-roads good only for Donkeys. You live only with Drug and Maphia. Remember Zani Kaushi? We are in 2008 and you still live with KANUN. You have 500000 Hoxha's Bunkers and also the Airport of Tirana was built by italians under fascit domination. My granfather was Colonel of REGIO ESERCITO ITALIANO and he told me that when italian troops came on Durres, all people were closed on their home full of afraid. Kosovo is now the second albanian shit country in the world while until 1999 was a civil place, because serbs are a honest people full of qualities. How you can say that Tachi defeated corruption in Kosovo, if in italy the 90% of drugs come by Kosovo? Hashim Tachi with his black gypsy skin is only a bitch who illused you poor stupids albanians who believe on him. In 9 years many countries are able to rise up! See Romana for example who after communism now is in EU, see Hungary who knew a real economical boom, see Slovenia who now is also in better conditions than Italy, see Slovakia who become a real west country thanks to Mikulas Dzurinda. AND IN 9 YEARS KOSOVO ALSO WITH MILLIARDS OF EUROS SENT BY EUROPEAN UNION IS STILL IN AFRICAN STANDARDS. THIS SHOW THE TRUTH: ALBANIANS ARE LIQUID SHITS.

The_Albanian		23-Feb-2008 23:23
Ahahahaha... Funny... First.. Tito's time Euros did not even exist and you cannot comapre that with todays because the standards of living were much lower and the last thing is you do not know or can you ever know what a Dinar in Titos time is equivalent to Euro. Impossible... You lil Gypsie... That "gypsie" you call Hashim Thaci actually got 2 master degrees. 1 in switzerland and another in Austria. He knows 5 languages (Albanian, serbo-croatian, english, german, and french)... That person you call a gypsie just saved kosova over 40 million euros by reforming and ending some corruption... The US just pledged 440 million dollars to Kosova for economic stimulus. EU just recently pledged 200 million euros in economic and development stimulus. THe swiss donated 30 million euros to build a new powerplant. That flag is just our civic flag. While we embrace and honor our true Flag... You can go ahead and burn all the embassies. Whose are you burning next?? Bulgarian? all the islamic nations (54 countries)? Hungarian, polish? All the Latin American countries? Your "european city" will burn to the gorund by the time you burn all of them. Now let me make a point clear. I am from Kosova not Albania... And Arberesh people are highly respected among Italians. They were Naples friends and they awarded them land as a gift for puting down its rebellions. If they hated Arberesh so much then why they allow them to make Albanian their second official language? Illogical huh? I will never shup up you gypsi producer... You romanians are a waste of sperm and space in the world... Its funny how you talk about your christendom and all the former CCCP countries are recognizing us. Like Lithuana, Estonia, Latvia etc... And most countries that have recognized us are considered christian/catholic... We do not want violence.... we;ve suffered enough... 600 years don't you think we are tired of fighting... We have an Army... it is called NATO... If you romanians and Serbs are so brave and want kosova back why don;t you start a fight with the NATO troops. Peace out Hoes

Vlad ROMANIAN		22-Feb-2008 22:27
Ohooooooooo GREAT!!!!!!!!!! The_Albanian Shit is coming back! Wow! I missed you so much! Finally we have also a clown. Ok you can tel all that you want but Romania is in European Union and Serbia will come after few years because serbs are like us: christians and glorious. Serbia is poor because suffered 5 years of Embargo, and 78 days of Bombs who destroyed the majority of its industries. But at Tito's time Serbia had motorroads, skylines and a medium wage of 900 Euro, economical standards comparable with Portugal and Greece. So Serbia today is poor only because it suffered foreign aggressions , but Albania was already poor. And still today after also Embargo and 78 days of Bombs Serbia continue to be in far better conditions that Albania. Kosovo with its SHIT INVENTED FLAG WITHOUT HISTORY (THAT FLAG IS SIMILAR TO CONGO'S FLAG) is an invented State because it is a part of Serbia. You believe that that gypsy Hashim Tachi with his sht-face will take you on EU?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh Jesus my God! It's incredible like your Albanians are so stupid and illused! How you can believe to come in EU with 70% if unemployment? With a maphia-leadership based on drugs-trade? With a land without industries? You believe that Eu and America will give you money? Oh my God! You are really illused and stupid, and this make you so bad-considered everywhere. Eu, gave you milliards of euro in these 9years, but Kosovo is still in that conditions! And in Kosovo is present the worst grade of alphabetization of Europe. While the only part where are economical resources and civilization are KRUSEVAC, KOSOVSKA MITROVICA, PEC and PRIZREN ALL SERBS ZONES! Yes I am half from Calabria, because my father is from Reggio. In Calabria Albanians (Arbeshes) are in zones like Spezzano Albanese, Ejanina, Castrovillari. And they are not so much like you think, and Calabrian peoples don't like them, while like very much Greek minority who speak and old dialect (Grecanico). So you albanian gypsy (like that Ass-face Hashim Tachi) must shut up! Because you stolen a land without honour but only cry to americans! IF YOU ALBANIANS ARE SO BRAVE, GO TO FIGHT AGAINST SRPSKA VOJSKA WITHOUT AMERICAN HELP! SERBS FOUGHT ALONE AGAINST THE GREATEST MILITAR POWER OF THE WORLD WHILE YOU CRY AND ASK HELP EVERYWHERE. GO SERB BROTHERS! AMERICAN EMBASSY IN FIRES ON BEOGRAD, DOUANES OF KOSOVO IN FIRES! BELGIAN, TURKISH AND CROATIAN EMBASSY IN FIRE! NOW KEEP THE WEAPONS AND LET'S FIGHT LIKE THE GLORIOUS TIME OF KOSOVO POLJE. WE ROMANIANS SUPPORT YOU!

the_albanian		22-Feb-2008 04:11
guest... thank you again fro BURNING the us embassy, croatian, slovenian, bosnian, and turkish embassies... Again you are supporting our cause by ooking foolish and by isloating your contry even more from the rest of the world... As you noticed none of your Democratic-Party leaders were present there because they are smart people not idiots... Your prime-ministers speech sounded like that of Slodoban Milloshevic in Kosova before the balkan wars... Still the same sh*t like 10 years ago.... You keep protesting and we will remain calm... and this will just help in our image... Prishtina has water and electricity... The sad part is that the corruption in Kosova is the cause of electricity shortage... Obilic used to power all kosova all the way up to nis... Yet even under serbian we still had power and water cuts... so it is more of a regional problems because shkup (skopje) as well got the same problems Peace out hoe... Kosova is NOT Serbia because if it was your country would be called Kosova but it is not... as you know well it is called Serbia which it contradicts your ultranationalist slogan.

Ion		21-Feb-2008 21:43
I'm afraid that Romania will have to accept Kosovo's independence in the end. This is sad because the Serb people always have been a friendly nation towards us but Romania just can't disregard the stance of our traditional allies France, USA and the United Kingdom and the rest of our NATO allies and EU partners. We just can't afford to go against their will. In the end it's nothing personal, it's just business. I just hope that no war will start. The world really doesn't need another war. Peace

guest		21-Feb-2008 16:38
but u still dont hav reliable electricity and running water in capital city pristina hahaha now whos laughing

Guest		21-Feb-2008 01:47
Oh let me first start by saying... thank you serbia for looking like an idiot looting embassies... This just gives the world the image of Savages which is what you were like since 1890's toward any population who was a non-slavic... this just continues to show your savage like race that will never snap out of its nationalistic plagues that has resulted in loss of territory and probably even more... So thank you for creating negative images of yourself.. Now Vlad the "Romanian" which I highly doubt that you are romanian... Serbia was offered a deal to accept kosova and have an early enterance to EU but nope you want kosova... STUPID MOVE... And another thing is don't think that once you join EU the borders will magically open... because that is absolutely not the case... look how long it took Poland and Bulgaria to even have those borders open... Zastava is stupid.. they used to give free Yugos in the US once you bought a Mercedes or a BMW... they are rated the worst cars in the market in US history... Now we don't care that Romania wont accept us... we are okay with that beacuse every other European nation is accepting us... Great Britain, France, Gjermany, Belgium, Austria, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Poland, Italy, etc... and soon to come macedonia, montenegro, bosnia, croatia, hungary, bulgaria, and slovenia... You keep dreaming of Belgrade the EU capital ahahahah Albanians are the youngest population in Europe. Prishtina Airport was announced as the busiest airport in Eastern Europe, RTK TV was announced to be the most efficient and the most accurate in the region... We don't have an economy because under Resolution 1244 we couldn't develope and this is one of the main reasons why we declared independence... and the funny part is that your nations are turning old... your highest population is toward 30-60's thats sad.. So Vald you lil gypsie who Claims to be from southern Italy... thats sad man because many parts of Calabria and eastern parts of Sicility, the second official language is Albanian... There are town entirely populated by Albanians and you claim to be from those regions... this is where I even doubt that you are even romanian.... Every romanian in the US that I know supports our independence and they congradulated me and took me out to party for this... Peace out hoes because Our job is done... you serbs keep looking dumb with the things you are doing... We are finally independent... after almost 100 years under Serbs and another 400 under turks... Finally a nation

Vlad ROMANIAN		18-Feb-2008 22:05
Ilir Lika, stupid siptare REMEMBER THESE FOLLOWING WORDS: you idiot albanians are happy for nothing. After 6-7 years Serbia will come in European Union and will be together us CIVIL NATIONS. Because Serbia has a good economical growth , and Belgrade know a great development in his infrastructure, in fact it was signed as The City of Future in South East Europe. Serbia has a car.industry (ZASTAVA) who is rise up thanks to FIAT who produce the new ZASTAVA 10. Serbs are an honest patriot and worker people who believe in God, and his future is in Prosper Europe. LET'S SEE AFTER 6 YEARS WHILE SERBIA WILL COME IN EU, I WILL LAUGH LIKE A CRAZY TO SEE YOU ALBANIANS OF KOSOVO CRY FOR YOUR SHIT SITUATIONS. When Serbia will come in EU, Albanian Kosovo will continue to be a poor State with 70% of unemployment (Resource:CORRIERE DELLA SERA) and to be the greatest place for criminal businnes. So in 2014 when Serbia will come in EU I will laugh a lot to see the SHIT FACE OF ALL ALBANIANS WHO CELEBRATED LAST DAY THE INDEPENDENCE OF THIS FALSE STATE. I will laugh a lot to see that SHIT MONKEY FACE of Hashim Tachi to keep his new flag without history and tradition in his ass. Belgrade will become an EU capitol and Pristina will be a sort of SOMALIA of Europe. To Ante: if our Vlach brothers supported Toma Nikolic, and they was the only minority ethnic party who supported SRS, it meaning that they are not persecuted in Serbia. And THE FACT THE MY FATHERLAND ROMANIA REFUSED TO KNOW KOSOVO AS A STATE, SHOW THAT THE HISTORIC ALLIANCE BETWEEN BUCHAREST AND BELGRADE IS RISING UP. HOPEFULLY GARDA CARA LAZARA AND RUSSIA WILL HELP THE GLORIOUS SERBS OF KOSOVSKA MITROVICA, KRUSEVAC AND PRIZREN TO BUILT A NEW STATE: REPUBLIKA SRPSKA KOSOVO (THE REAL KOSOVO)

ILIR LIKA		18-Feb-2008 03:01
to all serbs or shit serb nation from now on KOSOVA IS A COUNTRY TWO ALBANIAN STATE IN BALKAN so now my conversation with you filthy serb nation is done nothing else to say just i am the most happy man on the earth serbia is geting smaller and smaller why did not fight to keep kosova cz you shiting your self from albanians ha ha GOD BLESS TWO ALBANIAN STATE IN BALKAN FROM NOW ON I DONT WANT TO TALK TO SHIT PEOPLE LIKE SERBS ANY MORE I DONT CARE ANY MORE I GOT MY COUNTRY BACK KOSOVA BYE BYE MY OLD SHIT SERBS SMELLY GYPSY RACE I AM NOW ALBANIAN CITIZEN FROM REPUBLIC OF KOSOVA NEAR FUTURE GREAT ALBANIA TWO FEDERATION BYE111111111111111 GOD BLESS ALBANIANS THE SUPERIOR RACE

Guest		16-Feb-2008 16:15
yeah Stefan is lying: 1st Round [edit] Candidates Candidates Tomislav Nikolić of SRS Serbian Radical Party, has nominated Tomislav Nikolić (Томислав Николић) Supported by: Vlach Party, Vlachs of Democratic Serbia, Democratic Community of Serbian Vlachs[9]and Movement "I live for the Frontier" Slogan: With All Heart (Свим срцем) (Campaign site) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_presidential_election%2C_2008 imbecile, even when you have facts in front of you, you will deny that you are wrong. That is a feature that is too common in Croatian people, and a trait that I hate. You are an arrogant man. Just like you think that you defeated Serbs in Oluja. Come on man stop the bullshit, the operation started with the NATO bombing of all major Serbian defense posts in Krajina. Even after 5 years of building your army with the help of the West whilst the Serbs in Krajina were isolated and under economic sanctions from the entire world, AND YOU STILL DIDN'T DARE TO INVADE KRAJINA WITHOUT NATO's HELP! Once the obsolete Serbian forces were completely destroyed you invaded and fired mortars on columns of Serbs fleeing you aggression. You ethnically cleansed 750,000 Serbs from Krajina, the single greatest forced displacement in Europe since the Second World War and you are telling us something about war crimes. Fuck off

Ante		15-Feb-2008 21:56
Pravoslavci mean ortodox. Serbs tell that we hate ortodoxity.It is absolutly false! We hate serbs not ortodox peoples and ortodox religion. Romanians of Romania belive that serbs are their friends, because they are together ortodox and because they fight in the past together against the same enemy: Turks and Hungarians. But Romanians of Serbia (Vlaski) know very well the truth: They are persecuted every day by serbs. And they know what mean to live in the same State with serbians. We lived with them in the same State for too much time and we understend them very well. Adrian if you are from Romania like Vlad you must know that your brothers of Timok are persecuted. Don't listen Stefan who say only bullshits. Is impossible that Vlaski Party supported SRS because SRS hate all minority in Srbija. You must start to persecute all the serbs who live in Romanian Banat, like we done in Knin with the glorious days of Oluja. Stop to consider them friends! You are ILLUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!!!!!

Adrian		15-Feb-2008 17:40
Ante, you say that we romanians are pravoslavs. Could you explain hat is a pravoslav? I mean I never new I was one, and if you tell me that I am something I don't know I am or I don't think I am then please provide a definition. Cheers

Guest		13-Feb-2008 18:10
Ante you piece of shit, if Timoch Vlachs hate us so much and we persecute them so much then please explain why all the Vlach political parties strongly backed the Serbian Radical Party, huh?? Are you embaressed that your lies and bullshit have once again been exposed? You imbecile! You want to know why Hitler hated Serbs, read Mein Kampf. He was enraged about how the Serbs behaved against Austrian aggressors when they invaded and occupied our people in Bosnia. You coward Croatians always welcomed invadors you are a cowardly nation with no honour, every strength you have you owe to the West, you have no dignity. Serbs assassinated the Austrian Prince Franz Ferdinand, we then held off Austro-Hungarian offensives for a year! We killed many Germans and many Austro-Hungarians. Hitler hated us because we caused a problem for him, and Serbian partizans caused him problems throughout the entire war. Stop talking shit and stay out of our business. I like Croatians but I hate Croatians who think and act like you, you bitter bastard just get over it, we had a war 15 years ago so what, you got what you wanted so just shut your mouths because Serbs are not bitter compared to you and we got fucked left right and centre by the whole world and we still are getting fucked. Zivela Jugoslavija

Ante		08-Feb-2008 21:05
BOG OBITELJ DOMOVINA

Ante		08-Feb-2008 20:50
Vlad, you are a good boy and i like your Idea who is the same of mine. I told you many times that your problem is only the false image that you have about Srbija. I give you some examples, and I hope that after it you will understand finally. You romanians are pravoslavs like them, but they hate very much you. In Timok Valley, Homolije Vlaski are persecuted. They are arrested if they speak romanian language on the roads, their houses were destroyed by serbs radicals of SRS last year in Negotin, and many times SRS invited them to go away. Iron Guard that I love very much is the same of our Ustasa. We are both inspired Nazism and therefore we are kameraten. Cetnici are not nazists, they are another different thing. Everywhere in neo-nazis Europe Iron Guard is loved and its great leader Korneliu Kodreanu is considered like Mussolini, Hitler and Franko, one of the best nazis personality. I red his book and I was impressed by his strong srce and his great mind. Also the organization of Iron Guard was almost perfect. I know that everywhere in Romania were KUIB (local departments of Iron Guard) and that Kodreanu lived all his life like an eternal fight for defend his Fatherland. This make Iron Guard similar to Ustasa. Also Ante Pavelic and Jure Francetic were two brave leaders, Dr.Pavelic fought all his life like Kodreanu for the freedom of Croatia and he was a great idealist. Croatia fought very much in its history and Poglavnik Pavelic was the best croat leader who gave pride to our country. Also Ustasa was a muvment who was very well organized on territory and we are also very christian like you. Serbs are a different thing. If they are your historical friends, WHY THEY ARRESTED VLASKI ON TIMOK AND BANAT WHEN THEY SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE? 2-WHY THEY WRITE EVERYWHERE IN TIMOK, VOJVODINA AND BANAT "VLASKI GO HOME"? 3-WHY THEY AGGRESS YOUR MINORITY IN SERBA DAYLY? 4-WHY THEY WROTE ON NEGOTIN "MARS IZ SRBIJE"? 5-WHY THEY FORCED VLASKI TO CHANGE THEIR NAME AND SURNAMES? 6-YOU KNOW THAT IN THE SUMMER OF 2002 ON THE IDRO-CENTRAL KLADOVO-ORSOVA ON THE DANUBE, SERBS WORKERS CLOSED THEIR ROMANIAN COLLEGUES ON THE GREATEST CENTRAL ROOM FOR 4 DAYS? So now you know many examples of the great FRIENDERSHIP that serbs have for you. I know that in the past you were friends, but now they hate you. Go to Serbia and see. We croats have your same right radical ideals and we know the right attitude to have with serbs. They are non-human peoples. Hitler told SERBIEN MUSST STERBIEN (Serbija must cancelled). So you must hate them like everybody. ZIVILA HRVATSKA I RUMUNIJA -CRNA LEGIJA.- -ZA DOM SPREMNI-

Vlad ROMANIAN		05-Feb-2008 21:42
SVIM SRCEM

Vlad ROMANIAN		05-Feb-2008 21:40
I want to send my best regards to Vlachs (VlaskI) our romanian brothers of Timoc Valley, who have a great spirit of tradition and folklor. If here are one of them I would like to speak with him, also for know their beautiful dialect. SALUTARI FRATI NOSTRI I am very sad for the defeat of the great Patriot Toma Nikolic. His carism and his great brave spirit is the heart of serbs who will not surrender. Unfortunately the stupid West lobbies supported with their hipocrit propaganda and Tadic won, Hopefully GARDA CARA LAZARA will fight for the REAL KOSOVO WHO IS SERB KOSOVO

Guest		04-Feb-2008 01:42
ILIR LIKA po me interson se nga je nga kosova se edh une jam tmavali kush ???

Vlad_ROMANIAN		22-Jan-2008 22:57
GO TOMISLAV NIKOLIC GO SVEM SRCEM!!!

Guest		12-Jan-2008 17:01
and vlad romanian go back to germany u aryan pig.

Guest		12-Jan-2008 17:00
fuck all ur racists.........one day justice will come for each one of u.and to tell the truth europe sucks most europeans have no ethnic culture only some villages from there to there.i think ur all mad cuz people can call u crakers hey u made up nigger so they can make up a racist word too.the only good counties in europe is russia spain portugual.

Guest		08-Jan-2008 00:30
yes yes you are saying that 2 years now :D

ILIR LIKA		07-Jan-2008 08:14
KOSOVA INDEPEDENT SOON IN THREE MONTH TIME FUCK SERBS HA HA HA HA LONG LIVE GREAT ALBANIA

Vlad_ROMANIAN		14-Dec-2007 21:52
I AM PROUD THAT MY FATHERLAND ROMANIA VOTED AGAINST KOSOVO'S INDEPENDECE. KOSOVO IS SERBIA HRISTE BOZE RASPETI SVETI SRPSKA ZEMLJA KOSOVO LETI LETI LETI NABESKIH VISINA KRILA JOJ MORAVA I DRINA

Guest		12-Dec-2007 21:29
COME ON ALBANIANS DECLARE INDEPENDENCE YOU FUCKING PUSSIES STOP THREATENING YOU SAID IMMEDIATELY AFTER 10th DECEMBER DEADLINE PASSES YOU WILL DECLARE INDEPENDENCE.... IT IS NOW THE 12th and...silence.....

Guest		29-Nov-2007 13:21
Great...

Michelle		29-Nov-2007 00:21
Very beautifull city. I'm impressed..

guest		06-Nov-2007 10:28
stefan serb i tought u hated gypsys who is that dark guy in the addidas he is accely dark enough to be pakistani i would khow my dad is pakistani...=D

Guest		03-Nov-2007 12:38
dude dude dude, come on don't be a complete idiot.. i hav a stupid expression on my face, my eyes are closed and I'm not even looking at the camera... I am the one on your right not on the right facing the other way. Facial hair, dude maybe that is good in your dirty Albanian fashion as it is for Pakis and Arabs, but other civilised people tend to use a razor blade every day to get rid of that shit. Oh and Redi I am surprised you don't really look like an Albanian, you look a bit like an Italian. It's good to see you aren't ashamed like the other Albanian of how you look, or rather you know that there is nothing to laugh at in your appearance, as opposed to the other guy who I can guarantee looks like goofy with a beard!

the_albanian		02-Nov-2007 07:52
ahahah if you are drunk or not drunk your appearance will not change... you fucking idiot... your face doesnt change form if you are drunk.... But you are still ugly man... I dont need to show my face... and actually I dont want to...not that I am ashame or something of myself but I just dont show my picture in a website like this, or internet at all... But oh well we know what you look like now, and you definetly need some facial hair or some shit, you look like a 10 year old who would get his ass wooped by anyone...

Redi Tirana		31-Oct-2007 19:42
anyways this is the IMG code...if u can put it here, do it [IMG]http ://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc156/gjini4/nui.jpg[/IMG]

Redi Tirana		31-Oct-2007 19:39
hmm...it doesnt work maybe i have to be registered in pbase in order for the photo to show

Guest		31-Oct-2007 18:54
nah i dont call myself beautiful, but dam u are judging my appearance from a drunk picture ? haha you loser i can show you 100 pictures of myself but why do i have to prove myself to you, pussy ass albanian wont even show your face and you are telling me something... back in your cage you animal

the_albanian		31-Oct-2007 15:03
You call yourself beautiful??? wow

Guest		25-Oct-2007 13:21
You upload a picture on photobucket.com or another image hosting site, then you just paste the IMG link in oyur comment.

Guest		25-Oct-2007 10:35
The guy on the right :-P

Redi Tirana		24-Oct-2007 22:56
Which one of them are you? And i dont know how to put photos here...

Guest		24-Oct-2007 13:06
no dude for once I totally agree with you! I've said over and over again man and I don't like most Serbs! I don't like the way they act! To be honest a lot of my friends are Greek and Arab (well, not really Arab, they are Persian), I just know some Serbs because our surnames have the same suffix and I say hi and whatever but they are no way close to me in any way! One of my best friends is a Bosnian Croat! But what I hear about Albanians is that they are actually real cunts, seriously man. There is this school near my house and it has three main 'clans': Pakis, Arabs and 'Kosovans' which are Shiptari as you know. They are the same as Somalis dude, they are all illiterate, they just hang around in a gang and rob ppl and look for fights with younger ppl or ppl on their own. I haven't really met any Albanians properly, like actually spoken to them about things, not just like 'hi whats your name bla bla', so I can't say they are all dicks, but what I hear isn't positive man. Would you post a picture of yourself or are you ashamed as the other Albanian guy is of his appearance... it is easier to talk to somebody as a person when you can see what they look like! This is me and a couple of Greek friends after wayyyy too much Ouzo 2 nights ago at a house party: See, I am just an ordinary guy, I probably do all the same shit you do, but we are from different backgrounds so we will never agree! You want Kosovo independence, I don't, but if I met you at some party I would probably like you... funny isn't it??

Redi Tirana		24-Oct-2007 00:18
OMG how stupid you are!!! That was a copy-paste from that article. I posted it only for you to know that what you find at wikipedia (or what you don't find) is not always the absolute truth. That your proof isn't more convincing than mine. So the aim was STOP CONSIDERING THINGS AS TRUE ONLY BECAUSE IT GOES BY YOUR INTEREST! That being said, i really dont give a shit about your heigt and our height. I'm preety satisfied by mine (184) and dont care if our average height is 180, 182 or 183. Dumb ass dont you get that i dont like people only because they are Albanian? Of course there are Albanians that i dont like, as i'm sure that there are Serbs that you dont like! It's not about nationality, it's about personality. You'll understand this when you get older...hopefully!

Guest		23-Oct-2007 14:49
Oh please in 1965 people didn't even know how many people even EXISTED in Albania let alone their height hahaha come on stop talking shit and get back to what you do best - smuggling drugs and women. Hypocrit ass motherfucker... 'who cares about who's taller' (5 mins later) 'Albanians are very talll bla bla bla' hahaha you loser OUZO IS THE BEST DRINK IN THE WORLD!!! SIEG HEIL

Redi Tirana		21-Oct-2007 13:36
Europeans tend to grow tallest where the climate is cold but not frigid. Writing in 1965 before the Dutch grew quite so tall, the prominent physical anthropologist Carlton Coon noted, "In mean stature, we find the tallest people in Scotland, Iceland, Scandinavia, the eastern Baltic region, and the Balkans, particularly Montenegro and Albania. In general, the crest of tallest stature runs on the cold side of the winter frost line."

Redi Tirana		21-Oct-2007 13:35
ww.isteve.com/2003_NBA_Height_Spreading_Globally.htm But anyways, who cares??!!!

Guest		15-Oct-2007 17:55
"The people from the Dinaric Alps are the tallest in the world (186 cm for males)...The Netherlands was in the late nineteenth century a land renowned for its short population, but today it has the 2nd tallest average in the world,[2] with young men averaging 183 cm (6 ft) tall and only shorter than the peoples of the Dinaric Alps (Montenegro, western Bosnia, coastal and hinterland Croatia and a part of Slovenia), although the tallest of all are the Serbs living in Serbia proper as well as in Republika Srpska, where males average 186 cm (6 ft 1.1 in) tall. The Serbs and Dutch are now well known in Europe for extreme tallness." Read the whole article next time you cunt

Guest		15-Oct-2007 15:22
"Wow Stefan... you are really stupid... Racism is over and done with in England, all races are treated the same." You, are a fucking imbecile.

Guest		13-Oct-2007 19:24
Wow Stefan... you are really stupid... Racism is over and done with in England, all races are treated the same. White people date blacks and white people date indians, and indians blacks etc etc. If you come to US then you can start calling them whatever you want because it still exists here... But you are primitive, they are people just like you. They are even more ancient than you little serbs. When they existed white people were no-where to be found. I know africans who get perfect scores in national standardized tests. As for my theory.. it is very very true. It is sad that I actually stated things from sources that are credible. I in no way said that serbs are not tall, but they are definetly not the tallest nation in the world. The countries surrounding you have lots of tall people. Sure I know serbs who are 5 foot tall and I know serbs who are 6. I know albanians who are 5 foot and i know albanians who are 6'5.. etc.. just because you know 50 albanians that are below 6 feet doesn;t show much... And your theory that people of nepal and switzerland should be tall is kinda stupid. If you read my coment more carefully it said Dinaric Alps and I showed you the map showing that the Dinaric Alps cover all of the Balkans... Your theory is crucked because you are talking out of your ass, where are the facts..?? Show me inserts with credible crap... not from serbian web sites... And please don't call your country SCG because now you are left with just the S... there is no more "Cerna Gora" that is long gone. and soon vojvodina will be gone... as for Nazis.. hmmm did you see that protest in Novi Sad??? yes you did because serbs didn't want to show that Serbia got Nazis... oh wait you are one fo them as well... A country that is backwards in thinking and the most nationalistic country in the world... just like one scholar said.. "The more educated you get the more nationalist you become..." just like that article Tirana posted.... showing nationalism to 5 year old kids... How could you have lost your war in kosova... if you claim that serbs lived there they should have known the region well... but they didn't so they lost... just like the brits against the US... brits way stronger than US and outnumbered the US in army size and experience lost to bunch of Militia... But they didnt know the region... The natives won... The purpose of that Article Tirana posted... I see it exactly... you just dont want to process it... its showinghow serbs don't give a shit and mos tof them want to give kosova up and move forward while your politicans want to keep it while keeping your country behind with the rest of europe... And Kosova is not the drug capital of Europe... this si where you are wrong because you serbian media did this to you... ehehe dude you never been there nor will you ever put your foot there for the next 50-75 years... You dont even know what happens in there.... any serbian media is out of reach from kosova... you have no idea what happens there and what is in kosova... Why do you think that serbs would be more than willing to give south kosova up while keeping North Kosova (Mitrovica)??? Because of its natural resources..... the biggest coal deposit in Europe, and I believe the 2 or 3rd biggest in the world... But why isn't our economy improving?? well lets see we are under the UN, and serbs keeping delaying the process...

Guest		13-Oct-2007 10:07
Tirana, I read that article... what are you trying to prove? We all know that Serbs want Kosovo because it is ours historically and rightfully, and you want it because in the last 60 years you have come and settled there, first as being on the side of Nazi Germany and hense being granted your pathetic 'Great Albania', then Tito allowed you to stay, you bred like rats, as I have explained in my last post, and Kosovo became shit, and full of Albanian scum. Naturally, a lot of Serbs moved out, to a better area, in the same way I will leave this shithole in which I live for a better place once I have finished my University. So, through primitive methods you have become the majority of the population in a place that was never yours, and that makes it yours all of a sudden?.... ....Ok believe what you want haha! And the picture is me, I have shown you time and again that I don't lie, and I am not scared to show my face, because I am proud, not an ugly refugee Albanian like you and your Muslim refugee brother in the USA. And I did call a bunch of niggers MONKEYS, and I did fight with them, and I did lose, I am not ashamed, because I am proud of what I believe in and I am never afraid to confront inferior races! White race has become too cowardly, I will never become a coward! SIEG HEIL! And I simply stated a fact about SCG being the tallest place on Earth, but your mate wanted to dispute it, so I had to argue my point, as I know it to be right. If his theory is so credible about people on mountains being tall, why isn't Switzerland the tallest place huh? Let alone Nepal! They should be all over 7 foot according to your lying assylum seeker friend.

Redi Tirana		12-Oct-2007 23:57
...2nd part "Just as we are getting to normal, Kosovo has come up again," says Mr. Urstad. "So much of the political energy and focus goes into this one issue. Kosovo has to be solved. It is lasting too long. The longer it isn't solved, the more Serbia will suffer a setback. What does Kosovo add? Nothing." This week, Kosovo's Prime Minister Agim A‡eku said the province may declare independence shortly after Dec. 10 if no deal is struck. As the deadline approaches, one new idea being promoted quietly here might be called "active ignoring." "The political elite don't want Albanians in Serbian society, but they want the territory," says a Belgrade intellectual who requested anonymity. "UN legitimacy becomes a crucial point. If the UN doesn't back the independence of Kosovo, then you can say it didn't happen. They need to maintain the illusion that we control Kosovo, and avoid the humiliation of losing it. What they care about is how Serbian kids today will control the map of Serbia in 20 to 30 years." A heartland akin to Jerusalem For Serbs, Kosovo represents a heartland similar to that of Jerusalem for the Jews. If you ask Americans about the Alamo, or Britons about King Arthur, you might detect a slight pulse. But ask many Serbs about Kosovo, and the pulse positively races. The Field of Blackbirds near Kosovo Polje was the seat of a heroic losing battle between Orthodox Serbia, led by Prince Lazar, and Muslim Turks. Every Serb child learns the poem "The Dream of Tzar Lazar," which takes place the night before the battle. In the poem, Lazar is given a bitter cup to choose - a heavenly cup or an earthly one. He chooses the heavenly cup even though it means Lazar's army will lose. The Serbs (Lazar included) are wiped out in a battle that gives Kosovo to the Turks for 500 years. In Serb mythology, their reward is in heaven for making the right choice. Gavrilo Princip used the Kosovo myth in his decision to shoot Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria in Sarajevo, which led to World War I; Mr. Milosevich used Kosovo psychology in 1988 to begin his rise to power from a gray Yugoslav bureaucrat to Serbian president. He died in 2006 while on trial for war crimes in Bosnia and Kosovo. "Asking Serbs whether they choose Kosovo or Europe is a stupid question," says Marko Blagojevic, head of the polling company CeSID in Belgrade. "It is like asking whether I want to lose my right or my left leg." The problem at present is that Kosovo is 90 percent Albanian, and the Albanians do not want to participate in a Serbia they are not wanted in. "Why did the international community come down on the side of independence and not sovereignty?," asks Mr. Rohan. "Because you can't ignore what happened between '89 and '99, the killings, the Serbian police squads and thugs. You can't really say all of a sudden they are nice guys in Belgrade and so lets go back to before 1989. You can't go back to something viscerally rejected by 90 percent of the people there."(c) Copyright 2007. The Christian Science Monitor

Redi Tirana		12-Oct-2007 23:56
WORLD Why Kosovo is central to Serb national epic Robert Marquand Robert Marquand Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor 1165 mots 12 octobre 2007 The Christian Science Monitor ALL 1 Anglais © 2007 Christian Science Monitor. Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning. All Rights Reserved. After eight years of United Nations' rule in Kosovo, the idea that the cradle of Serb identity might be lost is being met here with a mix of shock, denial, resignation, and outrage. With a Dec. 10 deadline looming on the status of Kosovo - and with Serbs and Kosovars in Brussels Friday for negotiations - talk of independence for Serbia's mythic region is opposed at every turn, by nearly every Belgrade politician, amid tidal waves of patriotic media. "We lost Kosovo in 1999, but we aren't ready to give it up." says Alexandr Vosic, who was 16 when NATO bombed Belgrade to stop Serb forces in Kosovo. "Do I want to join Europe? Yes. Do I want to give up Kosovo? No." For Serbians, Kosovo is not just a territory It is an epic poem, a deep pool of collective heroic memory, a cradle of religious and national identity dating to the 14th century - even if it is now 90 percent Albanian, dominated by a language that 99 percent of Serbs can't understand, and hasn't been controlled by Belgrade for nearly a decade. In this proud Balkan capital, the idea of losing Kosovo has never quite taken hold, experts say. It was always a blurry future issue. Now, with Dec. 10 fast approaching, European and US diplomats and nongovernmental organizations hope that local politicians will prepare the public for a change, and focus on Serbia joining Europe. But so far the opposite discourse is under way: Parliamentary battles on TV are awash in Kosovo recrimination, conspiracy theories, and anger. Much talk in Belgrade is on how to enshrine Kosovo as a permanent dispute - a Northern Ireland, Cyprus, or Kashmir - in the Balkans. "I was at the swearing-in ceremony of [President] Kostunica, after [former president Slobodan] Milosevic was toppled," says Albert Rohan, Austria's former foreign minister and deputy to the UN special envoy to Kosovo. "I heard over and over that we are tired of Kosovo, we want jobs, we don't want to die to defend Kosovo, we want money and a better life. But this talk has changed." Much new talk is fueled by statements from Russia that it will block Kosovo's independence in the UN Security Council, and by a feeling that the US and Europe are too preoccupied, or too divided, to carry out what is often called the last chapter of the Balkan wars of the 1990s. This week, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, in his first meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, agreed that a way must be found to avoid humiliating Serbia in an eventual deal. But Mr. Sarkozy told Mr. Putin that "the independence of Kosovo will be recognized by Europeans" if no progress is made. Stronger desire for Kosovo now Many Serbs who feel that the Kosovo independence quest could get ugly or bumpy say the West should have taken Kosovo directly after the 1998 war, rather than let the question rise again. To be sure, Belgrade today is rebuilt. Gas is no longer sold under highway overpasses. Reforms are under way. Some mafias have been cleaned up. In 2000, inflation was 140 percent. There were no credible banks. Today, huge billboards advertise brand-name fashion and sports products. Banks dot the downtown area. Inflation is 8 percent. Australia and Serb tennis teams recently played matches in the attractive national stadium. Diplomats like Hans Ola Urstad, ambassador to Belgrade from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, worry that a major crisis over Kosovo could bring isolation and reversal to a state just starting to turn around.

Redi Tirana		12-Oct-2007 23:54
Stefan, who gives a fuck if serbian people are taller? Are you going to give us your penis size now and tell us that you're better? Go sleep and grow up! And as for your photo (if it's really you!) i don't see why you should be so proud of it. You're just normal, nothing more, but anyways nobody asked you to post it here or give us (false?!) information about your life and your fights! Go get a life!

Guest		12-Oct-2007 16:11
Albanian, You're theory is shit. It may be so that the statistics for the entire dinaric range is 185.6cm, but as a nation, defined by political borders, not geographical mountaineous ones, Serbia Montenegro is the tallest nation on Earth with an average height of 186cm. It may be so that Dalmatian people are tall, but the rest of Croatia is shorter and so their average height is less. Statistics don't exist for Albania, because it is a failed state. You don't even have a road network, your government does not rule over the nation, just a few places, countryside still in run by Kanun Law, this is not a 21st Century nation we are discussing here, this is the worst nation in Europe and has always been since ancient times. You can pride yourself over nothing, because you are a laughing stock, you have never achieved anything and you never will. You are literally the asshole of Europe. Just the fact that you Albanians have not even completed the last stage of the demographic transition model is such clear proof that you are still neanderthols. The fact that in the 21st century you're rat women are giving birth to 7 to 15 children, regardless of the fact you cannot even provide food and nourishment for yourselves, let alone 10 children, is a clear indication of where your people are at. Something that all Indo-European people's completed centuries ago, you are still in the process of doing... I mean cummon dude, enough of your bullshit rosy happy beautiful pictures of Albania and just say the truth. Kosovo is now the drug capital of Europe, following in the footsteps of Mother Albania. Albanians are the same to me as Pakis and niggers, breed like animals, behave and live like animals, don't respect any laws or culture or authority. Just spread your misery. I say it once and I say it again, wherever Albanians go, becomes shit. In the same way everywhere niggers emigrate, society becomes infested and destroyed by that bacteria and scum. Wherever Albanians come and reside, the place is ruined within months, Kosovo is the best possible example of this, Pristina, a formally fine city, now is the dump of the Balkan penninsula, excluding Albania of course! SIEG HEIL EUROPE FREE FROM INFERIOR RACES And Mr Albanian, I have told everybody even where in London I reside, and I show my face, you have not even said which STATE you live in, let alone which city or which area, and you are scared someone will track you down?? HAhhahahaha you liar! You are just ashamed to show your ugly face and your 'Aryanity' hahahhaha

Guest		09-Oct-2007 16:59
suspended from college for a couple days after fighting 5 niggers at once after making nazi salute and shouting MONKEYS at them.

Guest		03-Oct-2007 22:06
hehehe stefan see buddy I know exactly where you are getting your information... see man I am not quite the idiot you think I really am... just because I live in the states but remember I was not educated here since gradeschool.... The Dinaric Alps which stretches from Italy all the way to Turkey mainly by the adriatic coast, remains underpopulated, and forestry and mining remain the chief economic activities in the Dinaric Alps. The people of the Dinaric Alps are on record as being the tallest in the world, with a male average height of 185.6 cm (6 ft., 1 in. for recent 17 year olds). Now buddy think of the maps. Albania lays on the Adriatic coast and they go there. Hmmm does this make us short?? are we some kind of different species?? really we are not which proves my point that Albanians are tall as well. Kosova is covered. The highest peek of this place lays on the border of Albania and Montenegro, and the second higherst peek (KORAB) is in Albania. look at that map and see youself... And here I quote from University of Michgan Library a Britannica Encyclopedia about Albania from page 561. 6th edition. "The whole country formerly called Albania, now goes under the names of Shqiperia, and is extremely fuitful and pleasant. The ancient historians take notice of the Albanian men being tall, strong-bodied, and, generally speaking, of a very graceful appearance ; far excelling all other nations in comeliness as well as stature. Modern travellers take no notice of the appearance of the men ; but extol the beauty of the women, whcih seem to be unnoticed by the ancients. Tha Albanians were anciently an independent and pretty powerful people ; but we find no mention made of their kings till the reign of Alexande the Great, o whom the king of Albania is said to have presented a dog of an extraordinary fierceness and size. - It does not appear that the Alabanians were ever conquered by the Romans, even when their power was at the greatest height ; through when they ventured to engage in war with that powerful empire, they were always defeated, as might naturally be expected." wow is this what it says... well i guess I am right. We are kinda tall we are 174 as you said we were... We tend to be tall At least all albanisn I know are mostly tall and well over 180cm Anmd again ummm Dinaric alps cover almost all albanian lands. Remember croats have a tall population and so do bosnians. But you are making prejudice statements because you have never been in my country. So you really have no room to comment how tall we are... And of course you said before we have ugly women but here again stated that we have beautiful women. This is why there are a lot of Albanian super models and many of the albanian women actually get pretty far in beauty pagents and actually have won Miss Universe... Peace out ass face you are fed highly by nationalism and all balkans knows for serbs to be ethnocentric people. You think the world goes around you and same thing with greeks.

Guest		02-Oct-2007 18:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUAwa6LbCU HAHAHHAA YES FORWARD ALBANIA! SOMALIA OF EUROPE!

Cp6uja		02-Oct-2007 13:26
looks to me that the albanian/gypsy-scum from south-serbia hasn´t been on a hiking-trip for a too long time, since 1999 to be exact. greatfully this will change in a few weeks, when southserbia is going to be liberated. maybe i will again play the vermin exterminator in kosmet like in 1996, 1998 and 1999, cause a lot of albanian whores set up - because of my good work - dozens of empty chairs in front of their (pig-)houses. boy was that fun and so and too long ago! like shooting ducks, without intention to compare and offend cultivated animals like ducks with animals like siptarcici.

ILIR LIKA		02-Oct-2007 00:13
e pasha zotin paskni kesh shum me shqipet ju more qetnika HI EVERYBODY just come back about 2 days ago from KOSOVA i was there 4 four months i had a great time i now veery bussy but i will be back SERBIA IS FUCK UP KOSOVA AND ALBANIA ARE GOING FORWARD LONG LIVE FEDERATION OF ALBANIA AND KOSOVA

Guest		27-Sep-2007 13:48
Day Ten - Serbia Flew to Serbia (the tallest nation on the planet) and had three seats to myself to lie across. Being small does have its advantages on a plane! First stop once we landed was the basketball training club. The lads there were really cool and we had a good laugh. I even showed them some of my moves and scored some baskets! Day 12 - Serbia Up early to film more scenes. We must have found the one street where tall people like to go - everyone was massive. Even the kids were huge! Am learning to speak Serbian. In the 18th and 19th centuries, North American Indians and Europeans residing in that continent were the tallest in the world. Today, the United States is behind many nations of Europe, particularly the Netherlands, when it comes to the height of adults. The Netherlands was renowned for its short population in the late nineteenth century, but today has risen in ranks to become the 2nd nation in the world with the tallest population, the men's height averaging 1.83 m and the women's averaging 1.76 m. The nation with the tallest population is Serbia/Montenegro, where mens height average is 1.86 m and women's is 1.71 m. hahahaha shut your face you prick

Guest		27-Sep-2007 11:27
Belgrade is the best. Serbs are definitely nice, tall and sexy. Girls espacially. Thanx Elias.

Guest		26-Sep-2007 22:41
Ahahahahahah Stefan... Dude just like 2 months ago I read and watched it on TV that people of Netherland have the highest Average Height of 184 (Men standing 6 foot and women 5'7). How come in 2 months Serbia passed them?? Lol that is funny man you just showed how dumb you are... I see that you probably think I never read anything and that I am some kind of dumbass. And number two in the world according to WHO is Danimark... So do you think they would mistake and be racist and not include Serbia?? or are you guys mysterious and dont show off... Out of all x-Yugoslav people i have met Croatians are way taller than serbs and Albanians. And as for Slav I know i am not nor do I wish to be one. I found that Slavs are not humans they are just like African Savages killing innocent people. Just like your mother Russia killing innocent people. Its so funny of your description of Albanians because what you say is totally the opposite of all my Albanian Friends. I mean all of them. I am beinning to think that you are pulling shit out of your ass now. I am sure why you are concluding that serbs are the tallest because of the Dinaric Alps which actually are no longer in Serbia. They are the hight mountais along the Adriatic sea which Includes a big part of Kosova, montenegro, northern Albania, Southern bosnia and the entire southern coast of Croatia. It is funny because I actually have roots that are abotu 15 minutes away from those Alps. So that kind of explains why I have tall genes. Actually there are a lot of Albanians that live in Montenegro. So really there are a lot of Albanins who are tall. You just got to meet short ones, which in other hand I also know short serbs who are way below your "Average." Again Stefan my National identity is Albanian but I never lived in Albania I lived in Kosova. So Tirana is not my capital, Prishtina is. And Prishtina as I mentioned before was not built by serbs or their Money. Albanians ran Kosova from 1940-1989 and had their own budget and their own economy. We were an Autonomous region after all. We governed ourselves. Go read some other history besides the one in Serbian websites and www.kosovo.com which is total propaganda. Read 3rd party accounts. As for my dictator-supression umm it is not bullshit. Again you never lived in Kosova and you will never ever be in my shoes. What we experienced only we knew about this because we lived it. So you have not room to tell me how we were supressed. You were never there. If you want to find out, again research and you will read about it. Read dot org/net/edu documents and you will see... As for our women, i guess you have never been to Kosova again. This confirms that you are oblivious to the reality and how everything is in Kosova and Albania. First the Kanun is practically dead. Only certain part of the population uses Kanun which is less than 5%. The last case of Kanun I heard of in real person in Kosova was back in 1997. Yes we do use kanun for different reasons because you never know what that document consist of. Again you have no room to talk about that because you have no idea what you are talking about. Lol man as for my revelaing myself, I never reveal myself. If you want to believe me that I am 6'4 believe me lol i dont care if you dont because I know how tall I am and what I do and how I look. I am not an idiot to display myself in the internet because you live in a dangerous world. Good for you that you reveal yourself, I do not have to because the people who know me know how Tall I am and how I am. I have no intentions to be friends with you or see you in person. This is a simple debate. Peace... And there will never be a Christian Europe. But there will be an Independent Kosova. and serbia wont do anything because if they attack Kosova they are attacking NATO so that means you are attacking the International Community. Very stupid of serbs if they ever do that. Peaceee

Guest		26-Sep-2007 16:36
Seneka, That is truly distgusting... but I'm not surprised, I've seen stuff like that before, it is what they do best. And it's funny how they all write how we Serbs can 'only fight women and children'... haha idiots. The truth always comes to the surface, and karma is a bitch in the end for those who abused it. Sieg Heil kameraten

Guest		26-Sep-2007 16:08
Serbia is the tallest place on Earth Average height is 185cm = 6 foot 1-ish This is official data OK, Serbs and Montenegrins (who are in fact Serbs too) are the tallest people on Earth. We also have one of the highest calorie consumption rates in Europe and yet we have one of the lowest obesity rates. Anybody in the World who has been to Serbia or been to a football match where there was Serbian football supporters has always commented on how enormous people we are. Albanians are not Slavs. Slavs are the tallest and strongest race, by a long margin, you only have to walk through the street here to see the difference between the size of Poles, which there are quite a lot of now, and Pakis, English and niggers. Albanian average height, from my estimate, and I have seen about 50 Alb men in my lifetime, is 175cm and I swear to God I am not lieing! Your race has about 2 or 3 different faces, that are evenly distributed amongst you all, I can't comment for women because as you know yourself, you are Kanun law followers and barely allow your women to leave the house, and if she does, it is with a giant curtain wrapped around her as a so-called 'Burqua'. Albanians are usually around 170-178cm, stocky, pretty fat with short necks and square heads containing awful features. Why don't you show yourself Mr handsome tall super-Albanian? I have shown myself, what, are you scared? As for Slavs having similar features, yes it is true I will admitt because I tell the truth about everything I feel and see. Slavs have a tall physique, with broad shoulders, and a very dominant jawline. Their faces usually contain sharp features with soft noses, some with blue eyes, some with green and some with brown. Slavs are a handsome race you cannot deny it, yes we are inferior to Germanics in terms of intelligence and overall civilisation and advancement, but you cannot deny our beauty! As for your dictator-supression bullshit.... WHATEVERRRR hahahha And Pristina is not capital of Albania. It is a city in the Serbian province of Kosovo, built with Serbian money, and with Serbian bricks and concrete. It is a Serbian city, mainly constructed during the period of SFRJ, with lots of aid from Serbia proper, Slovenia and to a lesser extent, Croatia. So don't take credit for something you have stolen, like if you burgle somebody's house, don't take credit for having a widescreen TV because you didn't buy it, you stole it. SIEG HEIL! CHRISTIAN EUROPE.

Guest		25-Sep-2007 21:53
ahahah Stefan Stefan you have never been to Prishtina have you???? If you say you have recently you are a liar a big one. All roads in Prishtina are alsphalt. Yes there are the secrtions where they are block stone roads which is the old part of the city but everything else is good. Again I do not speak on Behalf of Albania but I represent Kosova. As for the height lol dude you have no idea that Albanians and Serbs have the same height. Remember from a place where there are a lot of mountains, tall people will grow. It is natural to happen. Kosova is a mountanous region and so is Albania and the Albanian populated regions of Montenegro. I know Albanians over 7 feet tall and I know albanians who are 5 feet tall. Let me see, I have all my cousins who are ove 18 years of age males over 6 feet tall. I have another cousin who is 6'5. My grandfather over 6'4. So man I yeild from a family of tall people. My neighbors were not that short either they were all at least 180 cm. Now you say why arent we in NBA and stuff. Well think about it. Slobodan Milloshevic wouldnt let an Albanian even be in the Parliament and do you think he would let them go out??? we could barely go to Macedonia, you expect for us to travel in time of danger. Second, we were not allowed to have organised sport teams in Kosova, so where were we supposed to play, practice, etc... All sport centers were closed. After 1989 there was no soccer match between an Albanian team from kosova and a Serbian Team. See buddy you supressed us and where are you supposed to show off when you were under a dictators feet who wanted to exterminate an entire nation. Very stupid of you to even make a comment about it. Oh as for serbian height... hmm let me see. I know serbian dwarfs, and i know bunch of serbian girls who are way below my shoulder. I know serbian men who are taller than me and serbian men who are below my shoulder. I guess you get a couple every 10 million. See now the porpotion 2:5. hmmm what does that mean... well lets leave it to you to figure that out. As for those kids... dude you ar definetly see the square shaped faces man. And how can you call serbians Ayrans when you are SLAVIC...

Seneka		24-Sep-2007 22:03
Hello, I found something absolutely horrifying on a forum. I wouldn't have posted it here but it was so shocking i thought i should let some of you know. Who knows maby some albanians don't know about theese crimes. This is the link: htt p://compu serb.com/cossack/index.htm I knew that crimes were executed in the ethnic wars of Ex-Yugoslavia, but these things i find simply mind-bodleing. i don't understand how human beings could do such things of extreme cruelty. The images shown here are not for the faint hearted so please do not watch this unless you think you can handle it. I also wish to mention that i'm not trying in any way to turn this forum into a snuff gallery, the only reason i'm posting this is because i find this info extremly shocking considering the fact that this was done in the eve of the 21 century.

Guest		24-Sep-2007 15:55
show us a picture of yourself them mr smart aryan handsome tall albanian hahhaa that is like an oxymoron. I am not scared to show my appearance, this is a picture of myself at a younger age, and now: Reveal your appearance and we will see whether you are lying or not haha And I'd kick ur ass in bball! :-P

Guest		24-Sep-2007 15:31
Albanian average height is well under 180cm ok shut up, you wish there was tall Albanians, but no, there are not. Come on man if your nation is so full of tall and athletic and intelligent people such as yourself why is it the fucking shittest country in Europe, where most roads even in your capital city are not even asphalt?? Everything about your people and nation is shit, you're nationalism is false and pointless. To be a nationalist is to be proud of the greatness of your nation. In Albania's case, there is NO greatness. You are the poorest, most backward place, with the most savage people to ever stem from the Indo-European branch. I do not even consider you as Europeans. Yes it is true, there are ugly Romanians, even ugly Serbs, but these are a minority, your people however are short, ugly and stupid. You know it, I know it, the World knows it. So you can carry on lying to yourself because you are not fooling anybody here. And yes of course there must be a few Albanians out of the 2 million in Kosovo that are over 6 foot 4, mutations happen in every society, there is one boy in my class who I the biggest boy I have ever seen, he is at least 6 foot 6, and must weigh 100 kilos, none of it fat. This is a coincidence, he has had a mutation in his genes which has caused this tremendous growth. There are many like-people in my school, because they have come for a 'Wasps rugby academy' which moulds the future rugby players of the nation whilst educating them. In any case, you are a funny guy, the way you push your lies is truly great, if some english or american were to read your garbage they would probably believe you!

Guest		22-Sep-2007 22:19
ahahahah lol Stefan welcome to reality there are many albanians who I know that are over 190 cm. Especially in my family even girls are at least 180 tall. Tall family yeilds tall kids welcome if you dont believe me than come to US tell em where you are and you will meet me and see that I actually am 194. You can dunk but what is the point of dunking when i can dunk as well. Is it better to dunk or just make a regular layup??? hmmm whats the difference??? nothing... A dunk is recorded as a layup.. Just because you can dunk doesnt make you a basketball player, I can dunk and still have a nice perimeter and Inside shooting. So yeah go out and search for more albanians than the ones you know there are a lot of tall albanians. Ferid Zogolli over 210 cm won national championship in x-yugoslavia... Go in and search the current Kosova basketball league and see kids who are 18 and 19 years old being 196 cm tall and such... Obciously you really dont know much of the Kosova region and that there are a lot of tall kids there, tall parents as well... but yeah i guess you only look at what you see in your community... As for that i have serb friends, and greek friends and as a matter of fact there are a lot of Albanian orthodox... so it would be ashame for me to say i hate orthodox... I dont like orthodox serbian leaders for blessing the scorpions and Arkan knowing they are going to massacre people... that is a SINNN my friend a SIN.... that priest will go to hell guaranteed visa to hell But hey Hollywood is what makes serbians look bad. Movies and Documentaries is what puts you in a map and says that country is shitty... VLAD look at your own country first... oh wait square face wow hypocryt oh wait look at this oneee...yeah from Borat showing Romanians... hey they are gypsies with Romanian Citizenship so they are romanians pretty ugly shaped heads... and look how short wow jup look at more box shaped.. I dont think you can get uglier than these romanians and I will stop there because see my point here you can look for ugliness all the time and you are really ugly man...

Crickett - Greece		22-Sep-2007 20:39
I really enjoyed Serbia. The people were nice and the food was great. I expect to return for more.

Crickett		22-Sep-2007 20:32
I was in Timisoura last week. What an amazing city. I have read about the communist period. I feel very sad for all those who had to endure that dark period. I am surching for information about the kids there who are living in the streets and huffing glue. I live in Greece half the year and the other half in USA. It is my natrue to want to help others. Not by sending notebooks and shoes but real help to move toward a better future. Can anyone tell me how these kids end up alone living day to day withm out anyone who cares......I'm back in Athens after traveling through Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia and Romania. My intention was to visit the hometown of a Serbian friend who lives in Greece now. I wanted to meet her Mother. Now I feel I have to learn more about Romania. I hope to hear some facts on these kids.

Vlad_romanian		22-Sep-2007 19:54
for the albanian: I am not anerexic at all my friend, I am athletic not a fat shit like you. I done basket and swimming for 13 years. I am not a dirty albanian with squared head and fetid skin. So you are a real somalis:))

Guest		22-Sep-2007 11:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPxvLu4VIq8 ARYAN RACE INDEED! ! ! !

Guest		22-Sep-2007 10:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC52PILh1Q4 HAHAHHAHAAHAHHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest		22-Sep-2007 10:19
Yo Ethiopia must be the best place in the World dude, because when human life was formed there however many millions of years ago Europe didn't exist, or it was still crawled over by centipedes, so that makes Europe a pile of shit and Ethiopia the place of kings!

Guest		22-Sep-2007 10:16
You are a funny guy, your entire post was just a load of crap ahahaha Albanians are a joke man, you make me laugh, I can't even be bothered to type anymore man, you can watch another film called WELCOME TO SARAJEVO, and then also BEHIND ENEMY LINES hahahaha these are all American propaganda 'James Bond' style movies which are made to entertain, I can't believe you are using a Hollywood movie as your proof hahahaha JUST GO TO SERBIA, AND THEN GO TO ALBANIA AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE OK, IN 1000000 YEARS YOU CAN NEVER BE WHAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW IT VERY WELL, SO ALL THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT GREATER ALBANIA IS JUST A JOKE. YOU'RE NATIONALISM ISN'T BASED ON ANYTHING TO BE PROUD OF, IT IS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT, YOU ARE ALBANIAN SO YOU SHOUT 'GO ALBANIA FUCK SERBS FUCK GREEKS FUCK ORTHODOX'. Also I don't believe you are who you say you are. I have never met or seen an Albanian above 180cm so SHUT UP hahaha I am 16 and I'm 187 OH YEAH AND I CAN DUNK NOW SO HA! lol

Guest		22-Sep-2007 08:09
Stefan listen listen Albanians have caused you the most trouble you ever had in your history.... let see you lost Kosova (this is a definite because even this is being talked about in serbia).... then with the help of Albanians in Montenegro you lost that land as well... so that is the second one you lost completely... and now Eastern Kosova where there is a big albanian population you are trying to be nice to them and you know there is a big presence of the militia and big guns hanging there waiting for something to happen so they can join kosova the mainland. Just north of Norther Kosova where bunch of Serbian Muslims and bosnians live they will soon want their independence.... There are albanian villages there as well so there might be something happening there... let us see what else is left... ohhh how can i forget VOJVODINA that will also separate because Hungarians will take over it... they are far superior that serbs in all aspects. As for Albanians, like Tirana said... we been there and we are there to stay that is why we never left that land.

Guest		22-Sep-2007 08:04
lol oh man some messed up shit in here ahahahahahhahhahahaha Vlad... you are 190 and 77kg you are anerexic man... you are a skiny little bastard where have you been africa?? skin and bone?? buddy i am 194 cm and i weigh ove 92 kg and I play sports, I work out, and I have a damn brain. As for physical looks i shouldnt mention the distinct look of slavic people and especially romanians, polish people and russians. My god you can spot them 10 km away. Guest and Stefan... you guys are still kids man you still have to grow up.... oh and did you guys hear the news??? Serbia wants to wage war because 12% of their country is ready to go to war and guess what 90% of those people are retired or veterans from Titos time. So really not even the serbs living in Kosova dont want war because think about it if they stay with us they will be intergrated in EU much faster, and they will have allies like the US and EU... who the hell needs Russia. Oh and guess what... NATO already positioned their armies to the norther border and have declared themselves ready for any action to be taken. War Aircraft is placed in Prishtina Airport as well as in Montenegro and Skopje so what that mean is that you will be attacked from 3 places over air and ground as well... As you can see 80% of your country doesnt care what will happen with Kosova and actually most of the youth dont even give a shit... Even US embassadors, governors who some are serb voted Pro Kosova Independence... Hey they were all Democrats. So god you have your entire people who do not even care what will happen to what you proclaim to be your sacred land... How sacred is it really?? I mean no one cares about it and obviously over 80% of the serbs dont give a shit and the diaspora dont even mention it. Another thing... hmmm SKOPJE is wayyy better than belgrade... when that city existed belgrade was a place where herds too some big organic dumps... Lets see since my last reply you are still with the albanian stuff lol which is a waste of typing and waste of internet space... really stupid if you ask me because well that is pointless... Serbs still cross to Romania since they are under EU some even want to go to poland I heard illegally crossing there and stuff... really sad... Ohhh and I watched a wonderful movie today which I recommend to absolutely EVERYONE TO WATCH.... It is called "the HUNTERS PARTY" what it is about is the war in bosnia and what serbs do and things like that.... It definetly talks about mladic which was lovely... shows the brutality of serbs and clearly says its the most dangerous country in the world with people who are animals who will kill you for no reason. So yeah kinda awesome seeing something like that with million of Americans. I RECOMMEND THIS MOVIE.... this is good because this is just another movie where serbs are the aggressor so you get the message right??? serbs always the aggressors and they will be known in history for their killings of innocent people and raping of women. THE HUNTERS PARTY my people watch it get enlighted...

Seneka		21-Sep-2007 17:56
Maaan, that was scary :))

Guest		21-Sep-2007 13:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW4bBMejNWQ AHAHAHAHAHHAAA

Guest		16-Sep-2007 10:38
Gologazov, Pokazi nam slike pa cemo videti gde je lepse, bgd ili skop. Ali znam sto posto da pricas gluposti, Beograd ima najbolji nocni zivot na Balkanu, Skopje nije ni blizu. Pozdrav

GOLOGAZOV		15-Sep-2007 15:53
The capitol of Macedonia is actually the best of Balkans. Come here to see. No Zagreb, no Beograd, no Sofja, no Sarajevo has our great clubs, discos and life of night. We are now a real european capitol.

Guest		12-Sep-2007 19:35
Wow what a great reply... Go and spread your misery elsewhere...

Redi Tirana		10-Sep-2007 19:48
Oh Stefan thanks for your prompt reply as usual. Well i know what your wishes are and i guess the majority of your people thinks like you because wars never start if the majority is opposed to them. You just showed that what other people think of serbs is unfortunately true and not only an "invention" of the West. Your people are just like you, crying for war, destruction and extermination. Croatia, Bosnia and now Kosovo are just examples of it. You'll loose Kosovo and you'll stay isolated if you don't become more tolerant, but that must be a word that you don't even know. And keep hoping, who knows, but let me tell you that your wishes will never be realized because Albanians have always suffered from invadors far more stronger than us, but here we are again. We were here before you and we'll be here again even after your time has passed. History proves it. And unless you respect us, we'll be your worse nightmare...

GOLOGAZOV		09-Sep-2007 15:40
Belgrade is a nice town, but Skopije is far better. We were the poorest sister, now we are finally poud to have the best and the most elegant city of the Former Yugoslavia. Cheers

Guest		09-Sep-2007 15:13
Albanians are so fucking pathetic, you're a joke, you're an even bigger idiot for not being able to see that. That is what I hate most about you, your stupidity, yet you claim to be so fucking clever, yet you can't see what the whole World can: That you are the worst country and culture in Europe and your idea of Greater Albania is the most imbecilic one to ever take shape. You think you are Aryans and are spreading Aryanism as Greater Germany planned to do. But you are not, you are simply spreading your misery. Any place in the Balkans where Albanians have come to live is shit. Just as here in London any place Pakis or niggers start to inhabit, it immediately becomes shit. THAT IS A MATTER OF FACT! Germany is by far the greatest nation with the most intelligent and advanced people in the World. To expand Germany is to make the newly inhabited lands PROGRESS and IMPROVE as the best aspects of German culture will advance the society and make life superior to what it was before. 'Greater Albania' has the total opposite effect. Along with expanded the borders of the poorest, most backward and worst nation of Europe, the society in the newly claimed lands will adopt the same system and trends of that of Albania. Therefore you are EFFECTIVELY SPREADING YOUR MISERY. SO FUCK YOU TO THE END OF TIME I WILL ALWAYS HOPE AND PRAY YOUR RACE AND NATION CAN ONE DAY COLLAPSE JUST AS MINE HAS, AND NEVER RISE AGAIN YOU SAVAGE PRIMITIVE PEOPLE. Truth always comes to the surface! SIEG HEIL

Seneka		09-Sep-2007 11:24
Just loock at this video: youtube.com/watch?v=Wx-REROXvtg&eurl= This made me sick to my stomach. I pray to God that one day christian countries will come to their sences an drive all those bastards out of Europe and into Asia, where all muslims belong. I also hope that romanian and serbian friendship shall last for milenia to come.

masad		09-Sep-2007 04:40
lol... u guys just dont get it do u...ALL TALK....

Redi Tirana		08-Sep-2007 23:09
FUCK YOU STEFAN SERB AND ALL SERBS LIKE YOU!

Guest		07-Sep-2007 20:19
As late as 1997, the KLA had been recognized by the U.S. as a terrorist organization supported in part by heroin trafficking.[9] United States President Bill Clinton's special envoy to the Balkans, Robert Gelbard, described once the KLA as, "without any questions, a terrorist group"[4]. Nevertheless, by February 1998, the KLA had been removed from the United States State Department's terrorism list [4]. According to reliable sources, KLA representatives had already met with American, British, and Swiss intelligence agencies in 1996, and possibly "several years earlier".[10] In the same year, a British weekly newspaper, The European, stated that "German civil and military intelligence services have been involved in training and equipping the rebels with the aim of cementing German influence in the Balkan area."[11] Former senior adviser to the German parliament Matthias Küntzel proved later on that his country secret diplomacy had been instrumental in helping the KLA since its creation.[12] According to The Sunday Times, "American intelligence agents have admitted they helped to train the Kosovo Liberation Army before NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia" FUCK YOU ALBANIANS YOU PATHETICS BEGGARS

chechen (��ی� ��)		29-Aug-2007 21:29
chechensi vera nasha silla da uboem ateh vrunof e sabak ane svenie sabacheye kotora vrut a drugom narodam. ubae sabak atef e luche mer nam predite bez rasiestaf and kazlov.

masad		29-Aug-2007 21:21
stefan they why are u bieng such an ass hole just becuase some black people mistreat u u cant judje all of them by thise way or ur bieng an asshole just like thos that very bothering u.if u are racist they u have problems siriose problems for exaple instead of having a problem WITH BRIAN BECAUSE HIS BEING A ASS HOLE U A HAVING A PROBLEM OF HIM BEING BLACK FOR NO REASON.i am tajik and i have ALOT of russian slavic friends and non of them have ever been racist to me or anything but people like u ruin inter natinolitys becuase of ur IGNORANCE. ps u would not fuck me up becuase i got a gun in the trunk and in the from of my car so sorry not gona work =D.to vlad orthadox sucks balls thats what slavs and other people used to enslave many people in balkans to pay more money for there so called sins and to be forgivin slavs now rule the balkans the majority of balkan people are slavs exept the greeks wich are 60 percent greek.and other people.

Guest		29-Aug-2007 18:37
ti-am mai citit prin posturi .. zici lucruri interesante pe acolo ...

Guest		29-Aug-2007 18:34
multi inainte .. eu am 20 .. un pic mai mult ... auzi .. care ii shefu aici la noua dreapta? Mrachici? :) .. el scria inainte in ziarul sarbesc Nasa Rec :) ... imi dai id d mess ... poate vb ... k nu prea intru pe aici ...

Vlad ROMANIAN		29-Aug-2007 15:35
am stat 3 ani in chire in cartierul Manastur in Cluj, dar acum ce sunt aproape la sfarsit, me duc acolo doar pentru examene. Acum si lucrez si din pacate a devenit mai greu de a invata. Imi lipseste doar un exam dar nu e deloc simplu, sunt 1200 pagini de invatat plus alte doi carti. Tu cati ani ai? eu 24

Guest		27-Aug-2007 16:34
eu sunt la stiinte economice la vest .. anu 2 ... stai in cluj sau doar studiezi acolo?

Vlad ROMANIAN		27-Aug-2007 15:29
Servus Aleksandar, eu studiez stiinte politice dar si lucrez de acum 6 luni, imi mai lipseste un exam care este si cel mai greu, anume dreptul constitutional. Nu studiez in Timisoara dar in Cluj.

Guest		27-Aug-2007 13:05
my nationality is serbian ... just like vlad said ... in Banat are aproximately 20.000 serbs ... a few years ago we were about 40.000 but many left the country, lots of old people died and many families were mixed ... and they've lost their identity ...

Guest		27-Aug-2007 12:34
Masad dude I would fuck you up mate, and I am definately, not ugly!

Guest		27-Aug-2007 10:36
what are you studying? (ce stiudiezi?)

masad		26-Aug-2007 20:33
hahahahahah u guys are such nerds I WONDER how ugly all of u must be to go on forums an bullshit ur whole life away with no time to do anything else u came back from ur coutry and IMMEDATLY went to the forum to post about it hahahahah.dang u guys are "VERY" sad. i bet that any of u ever been in a war u would SHIT ur pants like the pussies u are.ALL TALK BUT NO ACTION exept a few people in here that make sense.i just want to say that U GUYS ARE "TOTAL" LOSERS. and about the kosovo thing MOST ALBANIANS BELONG TO THE ILLYRIAN PEOPLE THERE LANGUGE IS ILLYRIAN AND "MOST" OF THEM ARE DECEDENTS OF ILLYRIANS.so kosovo=albanian teritory.

Vlad ROMANIAN		26-Aug-2007 11:12
aaaaa deci Adi te cheama:)) dar din ce oras vii?

Seneka		26-Aug-2007 10:40
Stefan That commercial was of an hard alcohol drink named Zaraza, if you buy a bottle, you get a book by Franz Kafka, the great czech/german/jewish writer. Anyway the point of the add was that the drink is not for lowlifes but for gentlemen. :-) And about your drivers licence question, i hope that Vlad wont mind if i answer for him. You can get your A class permit at 16 years (A class is for motorcycles) the B class and C permit at 18 years of age (b class is for normal cars and vans, C is for trucks). And i think you must be 21 or older for a bus driver permit. Cheers. Adi

Vlad ROMANIAN		26-Aug-2007 00:27
Hi Stefan, I came back just now from a great party with friends, I sent you my mail on that adress. I am very sorry that you my messages on your web site not arrived. I know very well National Geographic is a very interesting cultural channel with very interesting argouments, I like very much also History Channell. We can take your PINK TV, where is serb music. Beautiful channel:) My favourite serb singer is CECA and ZELJKO JOKSIMOVIC, very adrenaline music. I am sure that for a balkan boy like you and me is very ugly to suffer english weather. Our countries are far better than England. we have more nature, more humanity, more traditions. I am sure that you are very happy when you have the opportunity to come in Serbia and to feel again the wonderfull air of Balkans. regards my dear kameraten SIEG HEIL

Guest		25-Aug-2007 20:34
Vlad, I think there is a problem with my site, it won't display your comment to me. Just send me an e-mail at: Serbieneagle@aol.com Today has been the hottest day of Summer in England, it was only 26 degrees celsius! That was the coldest it was at night when I was in Serbia, and here it is the hottest midday temperature, strange. Also my skin is starting to lose it's colour and my shoulders are getting irritated by the 'hard' dirty London water after bathing for a month in clean pure water from the Serbian countryside, it is very weird, I guess it will take a while for my body to readjust to here again... I didn't know about Tuica, but I saw a 'publicitate' when I was in Serbia on the Romanian version of National Geographic Channel (I get signal on my TV because I have a Balkan satellite dish). The advert was for Ikafa or something similar. It was a man saying something about Chips, then about Parizer (ham) and then it said something about Respect de Romania, and it was the Ifaka spirit. Then it had some warning saying 'consumel excess de alcool grav sanatitae'. ;) I remembered some of it because it was played so many times. That channel is very interesting it had programs about train crashes and plane accidents and similar disaster investigations. Have you ever watched it? It is nice to hear there is a Serbian minority in Romania just as there is a Romanian minority in Serbia :) I was meaning to ask you something. At what age can you obtain a full driver's licence in Romania? Regards kameraten Stefan

Vlad ROMANIAN		25-Aug-2007 11:33
Hi Stefan, I have sent you my comment again. I wrote my message and chek the option private. I have written my mail adress also there where is that space required. i hope this time you have received. If you have not, please tell me and I will try again. Maybe I must register or login. I am glad you have success in your studies, you must be proud of it, because it will give you a future. Culture make us real man. It give us the qualities for know to live and to reason. I know that in Serbia is better than in England. Because in Serbia, like in the rest of Balkans, are not problems of order who are in West. Maybe when you will finish your studies you will choose to come back in your country. Serbia need young and intelligent people like you for rise up. These days of job afer I came back from my holydays, were quite, but next week we know right now that we will have a hard work, because all businnes peoples from West who have here their shops or fims, will come back from there holydays. I was in Republika Srpska when I was kid. I remember that in Banja Luka we have a dinner in a typical restaurant full of folk serb portrait and with typical serb food. Here in Timisoara being a large serb minority is full of serb restaurant, who prepared also my favourite serb food PLESKAVICA and typical serb drink SLIVOVITA. Typical Romanian drink is TUICA and our typical food is all based on meat and chesse (BRANZA in Romanian Language). Now this week end I am in Semenic. Here the air is very clean and I relaxed here together some friends. Last week my kamerante of Nouadreapta have a great meeting camping in BRAN, the medieval village where is also Dracula's Castle. They told me that was wonderfull. You can read their days in our web site nouadreapta.org Tell me if you have received my private message on your web site, if you have, send me a mail for confirm it. I wish you all the bests. Vlad

Guest		24-Aug-2007 23:22
Also I cannot find your email address, could you post it again? Sorry for inconvenience

Guest		24-Aug-2007 23:18
Vlad, Good to hear you had a great time! And yes I hear it is very hot still! Today in Belgrade it was 40'C according to the BBC Website where you can just type any city and get the forecast for the upcoming 5 days. I frequently check Belgrade and afterwards I type 'Riyadh' in Saudi Arabia, and I have NEVER seen it below 40'c!! Everyday it is 40-47'C I don't understand how they survive. Yeah Knez Mihailova is really beautiful, the whole city for me is amazing, it really has great architecture, culture, prices, shops, food but best of all girls! I have a little bit of nostalgia for Serbia I must admitt, because in many respects it is superior to here in London, it is amazing how I can feel so safe in Serbia and not feel safe in my own hometown of London, it is very sad, and it wouldn't be this way if there was no dirt and scum here like niggers and pakis and arabs. I am having a great time here! I've been back for 5 nights and I have been at my house for only one of those! So many parties and so many things to do before I return to college! I received my grades for last year yesterday. I got 11 A grades, and 2 B grades overall, I am very happy :):):) Regards kameraten, keep up your hard work and you are bound to succeed! Stefan PS: Yes Republika Srpska is very very beautiful, more beautiful than Serbia proper definately!

Guest		23-Aug-2007 22:34
hello people ... i'm a bit new here... i just registered ... i'm Aleksander and i'm from Timisoara ... where are u from? btw ... belgrade is a really nice and beautiful city ... Knez Mihajlova is very beautiful ... you cam just enjoy the beautiful view of Belgrade ...

Vlad ROMANIAN		22-Aug-2007 15:16
Hi Stefan, I sent on your web site a private message with my mail adress, you can write me when you want:) Your galleries are wonderfull. I remain impressed expecially of Republika Srpska. Is a very beautiful country, with various landscape. My summer was beautifull. I was two weeks in Calabria and I enjoy very much there, the sea was wonderfull, and I enjoy very much with my cousins and friends on beach. We went to fishing and to play football at beach. There was a strong sun. In Reggio Calabria, the town of my father, I go out each evening together cousins and friends to pubs and discos. Was wonderfull to walk on night together them against a drunk night in disco on the beach. We seem crazy! I weared from Romania a typical Romanian Wine (Lacrima lui Ovidiu), a strong and hard wine, and my cousins and friends like very much it. We finish all it on few hours. I am glad you enjoy in Serbia. Yes I know that Beograd is a beautifull city, expecially Kneza Mihajlova who is very similar to Wien. Our Dacia, are everywhere in Europe and this is a reason of pride for us. I am glad that also in Serbia are many. I know that also Zastava re-start to produce cars in FIAT model Zastava 10. Since last Friday I re-start to work and is so hard, also because is very hot. I will go this week end on Semenic a touristic town of Romanian Banat, together some friends and there are also very beautifull girls:) Have you nostalgy of Serbia?

Guest		21-Aug-2007 19:04
Hey Seneka thank you for your welcome back note :) You were right man it was SO hot in those July days on the Balkan penninsula... Serbia was hit the worst! Regards my friend.

Guest		21-Aug-2007 19:02
...which is perfect for me :) I went swimming almost every day, went to Belgrade to stay and relax all day eating cakes and drinking Turkish coffee ;) So yeah, here I am a month later brown like a gypsy in freezing England! It's only 15'C here in Summer it is ridiculous! I saw a lot of Dacia's in Serbia! Approximately every 15th car in Belgrade is a Dacia Logan truthfully! I also met a Romanian guy who was a waitor at a restaurant called Michael. How are you Vlad dear kameraten? Have you had a good Summer? And in reply to your previous comment I know where Calabria is, because I heard the song by Alex Gaudino and I researched to see where it was :-) Can I have you e-mail address? You can go to http://www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/guestbook And type it to me, and select 'private' message so only I can see it :) Pozdrav brate!! Sieg heil! PS: First thing I saw as I got out of the airport at Heathrow was fucking scum NIGGERS PAKIS ARABS SOMALIS and I wanted to throw up! They are the worst scum and bacteria on Earth, all in London and I hate them so much, I can't wait until I can have the opportunity to fight with my brothers and clean London and England from parasites for 1000 years!!

Guest		21-Aug-2007 18:52
I have now returned home after 2 nights away from my house (2 house parties so I stayed at friend's houses) Vlad, Regards my brother! Ok about Serbia.... Well it is a funny place, a place of harsh extremes, somethings are extremely good and others are so shit it is laughable. Belgrade is really an amazing city and there is no two ways about it, it's perfect for touristy guys like me who spend all day in Knez Mihailova street shopping in boutiques and sitting in cafes and of course making new female friends :) When I first came it was 45'C!! The hottest place on Earth on one day, although the temperature stayed over 40'C for a week, I don't know how I survived! Honestly, I was in my village where I don't have air conditioning and I almost died from sweating and from poor sleep haha After the first week it got better though, the temperature went down to around 35'c

Vlad ROMANIAN		21-Aug-2007 15:20
Yes Seneka, this is one of the negative aspects of our transiction. But we are lucky because now we have almost finish our difficoult transiction. NOW WE ARE IN EU. We are integrated in Western System. So, now we have the same rights and institutional consideration of Italians, Germans, Spanish, etc...after 16 anni of hard and sufferent transiction, after 25 years of dictatur eunder that pig of Ceausescu, now we are in EU, how you know in our Fatherland few months ago arrived the money from EU for infrastructure, and you can see works everywhere. In our capitol Bucharest is full of infrastructural works: NEW SUBWAY, NEW RAILWAY, NEW ROADS and PARKS. In our Fatherland are in constructions Motorrads etc... Like you can see in all our towns is full of new quartiers with new beautifull houses with garden built by our brothers who come back after they worked in West. So I am proud also of our valours, because like you can see most of our brothers who worked in West choose to come back for built beautiful houses or for built a Firm or a Shop. This period was the same period of Poland at the end of 90's years. Polishs went in West for work honestly like us and when they came back they use their new experience for built shops or commercial activities in their country. Few years after their integration in EU, Polish start to live better in their country and they not need anymore to go in West. Soon we will have the same situation. Our country is rising up, and our brothers will remain in Romania.

Seneka		20-Aug-2007 20:45
Vlad, Thanks for the reply on such a swift notice. Like i told you in the past, in my home town there are a lot of people that have gone to Italy and unfortunately most of them have decided not to return here because of the high living standards that they find there compared to this region. The main problem they face though is that our reputation has suffered greatly because of the gipsys that went there to commit murders and thefts, and the media didn't help in this situation because they presented false informations just for ratings. Anyway, your words fill me with hope my brother. Maby one day those Romanians will return and help our country regain its former glory. Good bye for know, Best wishes

Vlad ROMANIAN		20-Aug-2007 15:08
Hi Seneka, well, we know that gyspy are animals and that accidents are usual in their camps, because they don't care about dangers. I am sure that that was an accident. These bastards go in foreign countries to say that they are romanians, and they give a wrong and negative reputations to our loved and wonderfull Fatherland. In what concern italian fascists I can guarantee you that they have a good opinion about Romania, because they learn at their manifestations the history of Iron Guard. In fact, FORZA NUOVA the Italian Right Radical Party ispire to Iron Guard and their local departments are called CUIB (exactly in Romanian Language) like Iron Guard called in the past its local department. In each department of Forza Nuova is a portrait of Codreanu (the foundator of Iron Guard) and they come often in Bucharest to visit us. Roberto Fiore, the leader of Forza Nuova was last year in Bucharest for the commemoration of Codreanu and with him was also 1000 italian right radicals. Also the European National Front ispire to Iron Guard. Visit its web site for confirmation. You can see there that they consider Codreanu the FATHER OF EUROPEAN NATIONALISM. So, Romania is one of the country where Right Radical is more strong. All right radicals from Europe have a good consideration about Romania. And this thank to our Iron Guard's past. We must start in our country a GREAT FIGHT AGAINST GYSPSY, because these pigs are our worst enemies actually, they stole the resources of our Fatherland, under the pretext that they was persecuted by Antonescu in the past.

Seneka		20-Aug-2007 14:12
Nice to see your back Stefan. Greetings

Seneka		20-Aug-2007 14:11
Hey Vlad, did you hear about those 4 gypsy children in Italy that died in that fire? It's an interesting case but i don't really believe it had anything to do with ethnic cleansing, i think it was a media exaggeration.

Guest		19-Aug-2007 18:06
I AM BACK FROM SERBIA!! I am now going to a friend's place but I will read all the comments I missed and tell you about my trip later... POZDRAV

Vlad ROMANIAN		12-Aug-2007 20:06
To Ante: yes in last time we received serb citizens who crossed our border asking Political Stauts of Refugee. That was last day on Portile de Fier (Iron Doors) and last month on Stamora Moravita. We had serb citizens who work here in Timisoara honestly and seriously because they are worker and honest people. We received them like friends because they are orthodox like us and we was allied in the past. THAY ARE NOT A DANGER because they are serious and are not like albanians. I know many serbs who work in Romania hardly and honestly and I admire very much them, they think only to work and to pray like TRUE SERIOUS CHRISITANS. We have also a serb minority here in Romanian Banat and they live together us in peace and harmony by centuries . So they are not a danger. I have a serb friend, is name is Goran who worked in the Industry district of Pancevo who was destroyed by AMERICAN BASTARDS on 1999. He lost his job and he choosed to come in Romania, he worked on a Restaurant here in Timisoara and now after years of honest work he open a Serb Restaurant TAVERNA SARBULUI (Serb Tavern). Now since January he called his family here in Timisoara and he have many friends here. This because serbs are honest and know to live in peace and harmony with others. SERBS ARE NOT CRIMINALS OR THIEVES OF LAND LIKE ALBANIANS WHO CAME IN KOSOVO FOR STEAL A SERB HISTORIC LAND. SERBS ARE WORKER AND THEY LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY ONLY TO WORK AND NOT TO COMMIT CRIMES OR TO INVADE. Ante, I dont understand sincerely why you hate them. They are your BLOOD BROTHERS because are slavics like you

Vlad ROMANIAN		12-Aug-2007 20:06
To Ante: yes in last time we received serb citizens who crossed our border asking Political Stauts of Refugee. That was last day on Portile de Fier (Iron Doors) and last month on Stamora Moravita. We had serb citizens who work here in Timisoara honestly and seriously because they are worker and honest people. We received them like friends because they are orthodox like us and we was allied in the past. THAY ARE NOT A DANGER because they are serious and are not like albanians. I know many serbs who work in Romania hardly and honestly and I admire very much them, they think only to work and to pray like TRUE SERIOUS CHRISITANS. We have also a serb minority here in Romanian Banat and they live together us in peace and harmony by centuries . So they are not a danger. I have a serb friend, is name is Goran who worked in the Industry district of Pancevo who was destroyed by AMERICAN BASTARDS on 1999. He lost his job and he choosed to come in Romania, he worked on a Restaurant here in Timisoara and now after years of honest work he open a Serb Restaurant TAVERNA SARBULUI (Serb Tavern). Now since January he called his family here in Timisoara and he have many friends here. This because serbs are honest and know to live in peace and harmony with others. SERBS ARE NOT CRIMINALS OR THIEVES OF LAND LIKE ALBANIANS WHO CAME IN KOSOVO FOR STEAL A SERB HISTORIC LAND. SERBS ARE WORKER AND THEY LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY ONLY TO WORK AND NOT TO COMMIT CRIMES OR TO INVADE. Ante, I dont understand sincerely why you hate them. They are your BLOOD BROTHERS because are slavics like you

Guest		09-Aug-2007 18:38
Looool CNN sais that serbs cross to romania LOOL, Ante sta koristis seljace jebo ti konj mamu u dupe.. Granate na hrvate

Ante		09-Aug-2007 09:17
Vlad, I hear that last day 7 serbs crossed illegal the border of Jimbolia for come illegally in Romania. CNN said that in this year a lot of serbs try to come illegaly in Romania. What is your opinion about it? Are there welcome in your country or not? If I was romanian I'd build a great barrier on border for stop them. If you receive them, in next years they will give you great problems. We received them in Kraijna in the past and you see what they have done. Where is a serb is a problem. Stop them. Now that you are in EU they try to come in your country for a better life or to come in West. Serb Maphia is one of the most dangerous of Europe (like Russian), if you continue to receive them they will start to kill your families, to steal your houses, to conquest your life. Liten to me my comrade. SIEG HEIL

sergio glavancu		07-Aug-2007 08:02
link migth not work if u accely put the http depends.=D

sergio glavancu		07-Aug-2007 07:59
but nope vlachs those are not real romanians =D . the peopel decedents of thraco-dacians are there are many pheotypes in romanian popualtion today those phenotypes are noted for there black hair dark eyes and olive skin thise also goes with the tested dacian remains wich show hight consetrations of melanin in upper derma and iris area wich meand they were also black haired dark eyed and olive skinned hmm convisedence i think not =D.and today in romania people are mostly with blue or hazel eyes and light hair but those are not real romanians those are the various people romanians are mixed with liek the majority slavs.so i said REAL ROMANIANS OR ORIGINAL ROMANIANS WHERE DARK not fake ones who invaded from areas of north and mixed the population into what it is today OK next time listen to me as im not sayiung modern romanians are dark but THE ORIGINAL ROMANIANS WHERE DARK.as some of there decedents are today.if u want to khow what real romanians looked like look at thise mural that was drawed by the early natives ht tp : // www . ancient - bulgaria . com / images / Thracian _ something . jpg

sergio glavancu		07-Aug-2007 07:51
and not a guy from the HOLY roman empire =D possenivo was proved wrong because if u look at the vlachs (WHO ARE ALLREADY MIXED WITH SLAVS ANWAY)IN GREECE AND MANY OTHER PLACES THEY LOOK like romans for what they really where are roman colonists and u will see that alot of them have black hair and dark eyes with alot of peoplewho are blue eyed not gray eyed and brown haired do to the intermixing with slavs and other barbarians with roman colonists.

sergio glavancu		07-Aug-2007 07:47
lol im romanian who accely khows history unlike u ur right today romanians are mostly white sieeng as most of them are decedents of germanic,slavic,hungarian people who are not original romanians or people who lived in that land the original people where WITH OLIVE SKIN BLACK HAIR AND DARK EYES so stop trying to pass me as an albanian because ur now saying that all albanians are educated in accademic history rather then lies =D thise is also confired with many remains found wich show them with olive skin and black hair and dark eyes i khow more then a few historian who can prove u wrong.but plz do state that guys name =D

sergio glavancu		07-Aug-2007 07:43
plz do state that roman empire historian who desicrebed them as that because i can state liek 3 things that will prove u wrong.=D

Vlad ROMANIAN		07-Aug-2007 07:10
Oh I see that after my answer, The_ALbanian start again to mask himself with the name Sergiu Glavancu. Romanian typical race like said Posevvino an ancient Latin intellectual of Roman Empire is WHITE SKIN, BROWN HAIR, AND GREY EYES. So everybody who come in Romania see it. Sergiu Glavancu (The_Albanian)said these stupid things only because he is angry for my racist affirmations. But I am not racist I am only proud of my race.

sergio glavancu		06-Aug-2007 22:44
lol i bet even history wont rember real romanians. =( so wat ever i want to stop thise conversation becasue i have many others

sergio glavncu		06-Aug-2007 22:42
and they have difrent facial feutures gypsies have indid real romanians have anotolico .but again those REAL romanians today are on the verge of getting wiped out they live in minoritys and its only a matter of time b4 they mix again so i guess only history will rember real romanians and not the nation itself.so stop pouring salt on my wounds damn.

sergio glavancu		06-Aug-2007 22:39
lol gypsies are not the only dark people dang u racist to???no there not gypsy like because they are not related to gypsies but to anotolian people ok???

Guest		06-Aug-2007 10:12
sergio glavancu are you telling us that real romanians are gypsies ?? Or gypsy like ?

sergio glavancu		06-Aug-2007 07:51
man i taught i ended thise conversation but aperrently not.

sergio glavancu		06-Aug-2007 07:51
man i taught i ended thise conversation but aperrently not.

sergio galvancu		06-Aug-2007 06:15
my father is romanian his skin is olive from moms side he is short as typical romanians should be and has black hair and very brown eyes from mothers side as all typical real romanians should be.white people are ugly they have no strong facial feutures. im very sorry that u are pure aryan also =D but maby u should go where arayns belong germany and northern italy.not no where in the balkans and deffinatlty not in romania hahah since native romanians are THE ABORIGINALS of europe and the indo europeans invded them such as they are invading romanian culture still now.but most of the aboriginal thracians still kept there race with black hair dark eyes and very olive skin why wount u go where gray eyed white people belong west europe ok...b4 u start adding unkhown people to the so called white kind....and to the albanian im a christian but i have no problem with muslims because im not a orthadox crusader killer so dont think all christians are like that germanic idiot.and vlad tell me what ur dad looks like and i will tell u if he is medetereanean or not.=D

SERGIOG GLAVANCU		06-Aug-2007 06:02
and the square head ur talkign about is part of the near eastern race that real romanians belong they have big head and and square face wich is a handsome feature because of there black eyesbrows match.so sorry balkan slav romanians are not like u att all when u have olive skin black hair and dark eyes come back to me "REGARDS"!!! lol

sergio glavancu		06-Aug-2007 05:59
lol typical romanian is dark eyed and black haired and olive skinned what did i tell u ??? and i live in america there are many with grey eyes in seattle but u do rember the sub groups rembers slavic romanians germanic romanians hungarians romanians all =THE WHITE PEOPLE UR TALKIGN ABOUT....DARK ROMANIANS = REAL ROMANIANS REMBER NOT TO CONFUSE THAT.

Vlad_ROMANIAN		05-Aug-2007 15:11
The_Albanian I am sorry for you but I am pure aryan. My mother is blond and with clear skin while my father is mediterrean european. In the family of my mother many are blond with grey eyes, not blue but grey who is typical romanian. I know you are angry because you are certainly a shit albanian with square head, fetid, little dimensions and idiot face typic of you, but is not my fault. I am romanian and I am handsome, tall 1,90 and 77kg, brown hair and with culture not an albanian monkey with squared head like you who still live in Hoxha's bunkers. I understand you are sad and angry because I am aryan and you not but is not my fault. regards

Guest		04-Aug-2007 15:37
in the balkans there are 3 faiths you have the muslims, orthodox and christians. loooool ;) orthodox and christians.. :D Omg these filthy shiptars are not just dirty but very stuped too

Guest		01-Aug-2007 22:54
oh some crazy shit going on here.... lol Vlad are you Martin Luther King now with I have dreams??? I though you hated blacks and other races... it seems like you have been watching some movies and documentaries and have been deeply influenced by African Americans. Vlad what you don't know is this... It is very well known that Italians married a lot of gypsies...And as you know italians are kind of Horn Dogs and they get whatever they can and I am sure you are a product of a gypsie and an Italian.... Second mr Vlad... you can call sergio albanian all you want but the reality is that he is not and I have many things in my life more important that actually comming here to post with a different name. I really wouldn;t waste my time doing that because its plain stupid. I can clearly see your racism and hatred toward humans in general which explains your ignorance.... As for orthodox taking over the balkans lol this would be your dream but you know it wont happen because in the balkans there are 3 faiths you have the muslims, orthodox and christians. and there are a bunch of Atheists... so really you could never do that since you are in the EU... oh this is even harder for anyone who is in EU.... As for the rest like Guest, Stefan, Ratko, and last you Vlad still idiots. You still think sergio and I are the same person but really man you are missing out because first I don't even know him second I know little or nothing of Romanians culture/history/roots... I can tell you Albanian history because I know it but romanian nope... so you keep thinking we are the same but eh your loss

RATKO MLADIC		28-Jul-2007 18:17
NOZ, ZICA SREBRENICA! A "good" albanian is a DEAD albanian! ;)

sergio		28-Jul-2007 00:28
lol but it dosent matter to me what u belive and thise is not a joke i am who i say i am ur the joke.

Vlad ROMANIAN		27-Jul-2007 20:08
Sergiu Glavancu (The_Albanian), day by day that you continue with this stupid joke I believe more that I am totally right.

sergio glavancu romanian		26-Jul-2007 22:03
vlad accely the truth is on my side as i am sergio as i say and if u ask any real romanian hisorian,antropologist,or any normal person that is educated he will say to u what i have said and he will also tell u that the real romanians still exist in small numbers scattered all over romania and u call tell those people apart by there dark complexion dark eyes =).now i dont care about goverment or ur nazi/germanic theories about how it shoudl be u can dream all u want but rember that that land never belonged to u in first place.u can call me albanian all u want but that really dosent change anything.and how come all the romanians i khwo some are real some are not they all hate orthadox they say the govorment used it to control the population by giving orders to the pope of that church and where u think all the sin forgiving money went to???the pope himselve and he had to pay a tribute to the govement that what the romanians i khow say and there not muslim or any of ur so called agressors there baptists.so u can reallly shove the orthadox religion down people trouts all u want in the end the REAL people will see that it is a scam.

sergio		26-Jul-2007 08:18
same as neboring serbs,ukranians,and alot of bulgrarians.

sergio		26-Jul-2007 01:52
so yes u are related to RUSSIAN because u have common ansestors not real romanians but u slavic romanians

sergio		26-Jul-2007 01:52
so yes u are related to RUSSIAN because u have common ansestors not real romanians but u slavic romanians

sergio		25-Jul-2007 20:29
no but u did say i have alot to pay love for it.

sergio glavancu		25-Jul-2007 20:29
lol getting mad???umm pretty much it dosent make u russian but A BALKAN SLAV retard just as 60 percent of romanian population is balkan slavs and others.so ok u agree that black people white people yellow people and brown people living in america are the same people =) they have same ansestors =) lmao.the languge of not urs but ROMANIANS languge is either pure latin wich has no words such as DA,DRAGOSTE,BAGATA, WICH ARE ALL SLAVIC WORDS WICH SHOW HOW SLAVIC PEOPLE OF ROMANIA ARE.or it is thraco-dacian but it did not survive so ye.what ur sayign is like saying that modern day americans are decendent of native americans =) =O.i dint no that where did u get that informantin =).

Seneka		25-Jul-2007 08:36
You motherfucker, read closer next time, i never said that i shed blood personally for my country for this ocasion has never been offered to me, i only said i have relatives that had to do that. And second of all i never wanted and i'll never want to take credit for my gradfathers actins, you stupid son of a slut. I just wanted to prove how fucking stupid your statements are. For example "speakign romanian and beeing born there thas not make u romanian" oh yeah that makes a lot of sense dumbfuck. And if romanian wasn't the language of OUR ancestors than wat was ??? RUSSIAN ???? Because i see you still havent managed to learn a single word in romanian. So fuck off and die, 'cause this conversation end right here.

sergio		25-Jul-2007 06:25
ur right toguth i can talk about slavs and germanics all i want it wotn change anything becuase it wont u still we be one of them and u will fell romania is ur homeland so ur right it wotn change naything =).

sergio		25-Jul-2007 06:23
where the pandurs romanian???no i think they were slavs jsut as any other pesron no matter what they did.

sergio		25-Jul-2007 06:22
what u are saying can be explianed by thise.Pandurs were a non-linear (irregular) army made out of mainly Balkan Slavs, whose main objective was to raid behind enemy lines, attack baggage and supply trains, conduct guerrilla warfare, and to fight in extended formations. They were formed in the Habsburg army in the 18th century, but were not deployed in large-scale conflicts (due to their specialized nature). Among their commanders, Franz Freiherr von der Trenck was one of the most famous. Pandurs also existed in other countries - Tudor Vladimirescu (aprox. 1780 - 1821), the Romanian revolutionary hero, led an army of Pandours in the Wallachian uprising of 1821. They most likely originated in the period of Austrian administration in Oltenia (1716/1718-1739). There is also an Armoured Fighting Vehicle called Pandur, which is produced by the Austrian company Steyr-Daimler-Puch Spezialfahrzeug (formerly part of Steyr-Daimler-Puch).

sergio		25-Jul-2007 06:22
what u are saying can be explianed by thise.Pandurs were a non-linear (irregular) army made out of mainly Balkan Slavs, whose main objective was to raid behind enemy lines, attack baggage and supply trains, conduct guerrilla warfare, and to fight in extended formations. They were formed in the Habsburg army in the 18th century, but were not deployed in large-scale conflicts (due to their specialized nature). Among their commanders, Franz Freiherr von der Trenck was one of the most famous. Pandurs also existed in other countries - Tudor Vladimirescu (aprox. 1780 - 1821), the Romanian revolutionary hero, led an army of Pandours in the Wallachian uprising of 1821. They most likely originated in the period of Austrian administration in Oltenia (1716/1718-1739). There is also an Armoured Fighting Vehicle called Pandur, which is produced by the Austrian company Steyr-Daimler-Puch Spezialfahrzeug (formerly part of Steyr-Daimler-Puch).

sergio glavancu		25-Jul-2007 06:19
speakign romanian and beeing born there thas not make u romanian just as it dosent make americans who speak english all americans thats all im sayign and thats the truth.u can deny what u want give me explales of what foguth for who but that thas nto have anythign to do with ethincity.

segio glavancu		25-Jul-2007 06:16
if ur not part of romanian ethicity if u dont have black hair dark eyes and tannish skin then u are ether of slavic hungarian or germanic decent not matter what u have done no matter what u think and stop tryign to take credit for ur grampas work by saying I SPILLED ALOT OF BLODD FOR THISE COUNTY IT WASENT U IT WAS UR GRAMPA,first to clear that and stop blaming me for ur own problems by saying i DONT KHWO WHAT BEEING ROMANIAN IS ABOUT IM PRETTY SURE IT IS NOT ABOUT HAVING SLAVIC ANSESTORS BUT SINCE U LIVED IN THISE LAND AND U ARE A CITEZEN OF IT AND UR GRAMPA WHO WAS PROBABLY OF SLAVIC DECENT TO FOUGHT FOR IT SO THAT MAKE U ROMANIAN???UMM BEEING ROMANIAN IS NOT SOMETHIGN U CAN JOIN MY FRIEND IT IS SOMETHIGN U MUST BE BORN IN TOO.STOP CONFUSING SPEAKIGN ROMANIAN WITH BEEING ROMANIAN I MIOGHT NOT SPEAK ROMANIAN BUT MY FAHTER DOES AND MY FATHER HAS REAL ROAMNAIN IN HSI BLOOD LINE THAT IS WHAT MAKE U ROMANIAN HAVING NOT SLAVIC,GERMANIC,HUNGARIAN IN UR PAST AS ANSESTORS BUT HAVING ROMANIANS AS UR ANSESTORS.u say about blood do u khwo how many dacians-thracians were killed by the genocidel goths and slavs more then 1 mil of people they were logn ago but they were still living people.eventually the slavs and goths settled and starting intermixing with the dacians so we real romanians are jsut soppose to let u in to our race becuase u learned to speak the common langue that was no ours in the begging???

sergio glavancu		25-Jul-2007 05:58
u showed how stupid u are by posting that.what thas the fact that ur grampa fought in the romanian army have to do with his ethincity ????yes he should be rembered ill tell u that.but thise has nothign to do with ROMANIANS but it has to do with army any one who lived in romania could have joined the army of any ehtincity i bet there were even gypsys too and u khwo why they could join the romanian army ???not becuase they were part of the romanian ethincity but because they were citezens OF ROMANIA.TELL ME PLEASE WHAT THAS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH UR ETHINCITY???DID THAT PROVE THAT U WERE NOT SLAVIC OR ANY OTHER ???IF IT DID TELL ME HOW???those people were not romanian if they werent ok =) they were citezens BRAVE ONES but again dont confuse bravary over ethicity =).and if u never heard of the same people fighting over the goverment then u never have heard of american revolution they were same people fithign for there terretory and goverment hmm thas this split there ethicinty???or when america foguth agasit british even toguth most people in east america were british hmm did that split to what they really were???

sergio glavancu		25-Jul-2007 05:46
why are u confusing EHTINCITY with citezens???again...in america is everyone american???hmm??should we count all people in america as american as one race??mexicans,african, asians when did they become one people???when they moved to one contry??u are a dum ass seneka what u posted about ur grampa is the same thign that happend to my grampa but my grampa survived the war with a missing arm.i dont undestand what thise has to do with ethencity??seneka u dont khwo what being romanian is about its not about lving in romania and thinkign u are romanians its about bing part of the romanian ethincity u think jsut becuase someone fought in wars for one side it automatically makes them part of the romanian ehtincity???they are still what they are no matter what they do.

sergio glavancu		25-Jul-2007 04:43
lol??iron guard was a racist anti-semetic govorment dum ass.and those people who fought in that war WHERE ROMANIAN CITIZENS NOT ROMANIANS.

Seneka		24-Jul-2007 21:48
Vlad isn't talking bullshit at all. The ideal that he wants has been achieved in the past. The Iron Guard was a controversial political movement that grew in the eve of ww2. They had the support of a very large part of the population mainly because their principles were about honnor, honesty, discipline and orthodox christianity. I asked you about history because i wanted to know if you ever heard of the battle of Marasesti. That was a great battle in ww1 when the romanian army defeted the germans who were invadeing us, My greatgrandfather on my father's side fought in that battle. Another grandfather (on my mother's side) fought in Crimeea and at the battle of the Don rivver, against the bolshevik beasts. I also have other relatives that shed blood for this country and had a lot to pay for loving it. So, my question is HOW IN THE HELL DEAR YOU SAY THAT PEOPLE LIKE THOSE I JUST MENTIONED AREN'T ROMANIAN ??? YOU of all people, a little boy that doesn't even know romanian but he comes here on a forum and tryes to teach romanians whats what and whos who when it comes to their own land??? Who exactly do you think you are??? You have no idea about what means to be romanian. You can talk about slavs and germans as much as you want you little prick. That wonnt change absolutelly anything. Ok, enough for now, i'm done wasting my time with you. I just hope that you'll have the fate that you deserve.

sergio glavancu		23-Jul-2007 20:24
do not count me as a racist im not racist towards slavic people or any one other. im just racist towards people like vlad who make stuff up and try to ruin everyones peace with his RACIAL BULLSHIT.

sergio glavancu		23-Jul-2007 20:18
do not count me as a racist im not racist towards slavic people or any one other. im just racist towards people like vlad who make stuff up and try to ruin everyones peace with his RACIAL BULLSHIT.

sergio		23-Jul-2007 20:08
i khow kings i khow there is ALOT OF SLAVIC people in modern romanian hiistory.sowhat exacly do u want to khow?

sergio		23-Jul-2007 20:05
yes i do so what do u want to khow??

sergio		23-Jul-2007 20:05
yes i do so what do u want to khow??

Seneka		23-Jul-2007 17:44
Hey sergiu do you have any knolledge about Romania's modern history ?

Seneka		23-Jul-2007 17:27
Hey sergiu do you have any knolledge about Romania's modern history ?

sergio glavancu		23-Jul-2007 10:34
ahh how the truth sets ur free hmm??

sergio glavancu romanian		23-Jul-2007 10:32
vlad_white_gypsy thise is to u .again with the fatherland bullshit u sirosly dont recognize ur father land becuase i have never heard u mention it.=) ^.^ all u orthadox christians think u can make people think as u with posting insults and posting with BIG letters and writting strong statements to make it seem like some kind of pride that u have.umm no one falls for that anymore we still no ur bullshit even if u post in big or small letters and if u state strong bullshit or weak bullshit its still bullshit its not sopported by any ACTUAL HISTORIC OF SCIENTIFICAL FACTS.its just supported by a little nerd who sits on computer all day chatting some bullshit with his racist buddies and tryign to make it seem as pride even tought its just still BULLSHIT.I khow its hard on u khowing that some one out there gets laid everynigth while ur like "O GUYS ORTHADOX IS SO COOL LIKE I HOPE THEY MAKE SOMETHIGN ELSE UP TO THISE RELIGION THAT ALOWS US TO SUCK EACH OTHERS DICKS BECAUSE WE ALL NKOW WE MADE ALL THE SHIT UP THAT WERE TALKIGN ABOUT".AND WHILE SERGIO GLAVANCU FROM ISAI ROMANIA HAS ALL THISE ACADEMIC INFORMATION THAT PROVES THAT WERE JUST DUM SHITS WHO MADE THISE UP THISE MEANS WE GOTA START MAKING STUFF UP AGAIN "COME ON VLAD THINK THINK"does that have a simmilarity to any of ur converstions vlad??i think it does.^.^.my statement is get out of romania becuase it belongs to the dark haired dark eyed olive skinned people who lived there for 5,000 years.what is ur next statement going to be??insults with BIG LETTERS like i emitated??at least my big letters can stadn up for themselves cuz there is no bullshti there while urs cant.

sergio glavancu romanian		23-Jul-2007 10:14
so how can u say nationalism in romania u mean anti-romanian natinolism that will forever distroy the culture??hmm thise sounds alot like another slavic uprising in a mostly slavic populated place.lol ur natinolism isent romanian its slavic u want all slavic people to take over romania by slavic people i mean WHITES i just use that tearm because most whites in romania are of slavic decend.so back to subject u want them to take over romania teach there commi bullshit and kick all the native people of the country because i khow u whites like to wrong term all dark people as gypsies or turks blah blah.so ur going to kick out the real romanians along witht the gypsies???vlad u are the same thing as a gypsie hmm lets see the similareties vlad=came where he should not have come because it is not his country or people but since he has brethern living there he thinks those are the real people.gypsy=came where he should not have come because it is not his country or people but since he has brethern living there he thinks those are the real people of that land.hmm vlad=white gypsy ???slavics/germanics=white gypsys???

sergio glavancu romanian		23-Jul-2007 10:01
even italians are not soppuse to be brown haired dum shit.but thracians were related to near eastern people do u nkow what near eatern people look like???

sergio glavancu		23-Jul-2007 09:57
lol ok i khow how i can prove im romanian im going to get my dad to translate.but my dream is to see all white people out of romania and moldavia to go to where they belong baltic sea, my dream since were all the sudden talking of dreams now is to recognize the thraco-dacian culture for wich they were the native romanians for wich they were the real romanians with tannish skin to brown skin, dark haired dark eyes people.who today live as a minority in the slavic romanian world and people like u who are proud of something they dont even khow what there talking about.u want all that stuff to happen ??then do it in belarus where those things belong not in a land wich belongs to a diffrent race then yours.and when i prove a point u allways make thise again allways trying to go off the MAIN SUBJECT by saying im the albanian blah blah blah bullshit.my dad is romanian his family members have real romanians in there blood line.while u are a some kind of nordic italian lol =).

Vlad ROMANIAN		22-Jul-2007 22:04
I WANT TO SEE OUR SCHOOLS TEACHING TO OUR STUDENTS TO HATE ALL THE ENEMIES OF OUR COUNTRIES AND ALL THE PEOPLES WHO ARE OUR ENEMY. I WANT TO SEE IN PRISON ALL OUR ACTUAL LEADERS I WANT THAT OUR TEENS WILL BE HEDUCATED IN MILITAR STYLE I WANT A ROMANIAN GENERATION, WITHOUR SWEETY STUPID THINK BUT ONLY WITH LOVE FOR FATHERLAND, GOD AND FAMILY I WANT TO SEE OUR TEENS INCLUSED IN CORPORATIVE ORGANIZATION AND LEARN TO FIGHT AND TO KNOW THE VALOURS OF ORTHODOX RELIGION.

Vlad ROMANIAN		22-Jul-2007 21:59
you can dream to be all that you want but the truth say the opposite my dear shit. You are a great pig without mind, without culture, without sense, and your stupid affirmations show that I am right. You have not brave to show your think with your real name (who is The_Albanian), and you mask yourself with another nickname and another nationality. You say you are romanian, but I discovered quickly your stupid joke, asking you something in Romanian language and you can not answer. So was very easy for an intelligent romanian like me to fuck and discover a ridicule joke of a stupid albanian pig like you. So say you again, stop with this stupid thing, try to be more serious....I know that is almost impossible for you...but try. I am racist? Maybe. But I am proud of my blood, of my race, of my religion and my identity and I don't find nothing criminal on it. If you are angry because I support our serb brothers in their fight for their land Kosovo, it is a your problem. I love my ideals and my dream is that soon my Fatherland will be rule again by Iron Guard. My dream is to see my Fatherland free by corruption and dark powers. My dream is a Nationalist Romania strong and without gypsy and american bases in our soul. My dream is to see our love Orthodox religion destroy Islam in the Balkans. My dream is to see our troops in Kosovo turn their Kalashinov against UCK and help our serb brothers. My dream is to kill all our democratic leaders. I WANT A ROMANIA WITHOUT DEMOCRACY AND PROUD FOR ITS NATIONALISM I WANT A ROMANIA FROM TISA RIVER TO ODESSA LIKE IN THE PAST I WANT A ROMANIA WHERE ALL DEMOCRATIC CORRUPT INSTITUTION WILL BE DESTROYED BY A MILITAR LEADERSHIP MY DREAM IS A MILITAR ROMANIA WITH ORDER AND NATIONALISM, WHERE ALL CRIME WILL BE PUNISH BY EXECUTION I WANT POLICE EVERYWHERE AND PARAMILITAR IRON GUARDS HELP POLICE I WANT TO CLOSE THE MOUTH OF DEMOCRATIC PIGS AND TO REALIZE FINALLY THE GREAT DREAM OF A MILITAR RIGHT RADICAL DICTATURE THIS IS MY DREAM AND I AM PROUD OF IT

sergio		22-Jul-2007 16:23
no im pretty sure a person that dosent lie and is not racist is not a pig.=)but u on the other hand are a very good example of one.

Vlad ROMANIAN		22-Jul-2007 09:12
yes, YOU:)

sergio		21-Jul-2007 23:49
lol ye but im accely the person i say i am and i never lied on here so we all seee who the real pig is .

Vlad ROMANIAN		21-Jul-2007 13:52
Sergio Glavancu (The_Albanian) the real pig here are you, because you are stupid and ridicule and try to be a false person. You are not human and if I have the opportunity to take you I will cut you. BOG RASTE RUMUNI NE

sergio glavancu		18-Jul-2007 22:59
so vlad_pieceofshit plz shut up and dont try to call me somethign im not .i have said who i am and i have not lied.i dont care what u think becasue to me ur not a human ur a pig and in my village they kill pigs like 1,2,3.i only care what people who come to thise forum think i dont want to have a liar on my head.

sergio glavancu		18-Jul-2007 22:53
jsut cuz ur born somewhere that does not make that ur homeland ur homeland is WHERE UR ANSESTORS ARE FROM.thats all im saying.so stefan serb just cuz u got family there and there that does not make a deffrence to what u really are.

sergio glavancu		18-Jul-2007 22:47
lol vlad the only one who gets riduculed by ur own made up joke is u.stefan serb i khow were Calabria is i have google maps dont worry =).i was just saying where he belongs =).and u can go on saying that im the albanian but that dosent make it true it just shows how desperate u are for people to accely belive ur bullshit.=) the_albanian u need to post more stuff so people will see whos who. they have also found a panting of a dacian/gatae god wich shows him with dark skin black hair and dark eyes the god is zalmoxis the most supreme god of the dacians meaning that THEY MADE HIM IN THERE IMAGE.wich proves my point even farther.=)jsut adding that to my reply for no apperent reason.and vlad if ur stupid enoght not to see the diffrence bettween my writtngs and the albanians they lol thats all i got to say.the_albanian writtes always with correct spelling but me not khowing the words as well as him writes with wrong spelling most of the time.but i am curios what does ur father look like what color hair ,eyes?

Vlad ROMANIAN		18-Jul-2007 15:15
Sergio Glavancu (The_Albanian), stop with your stupid provocations, we all discovered your joke, you become ridicules day by day with this thing. Stefan, yes my father is from Reggio Calabria in South of Italy in front of Sicily. Is a wonderful town, after 3 km of sea you can see the houses of Sicily and Etna Vulcan. Reggio Calabria has 2000 years of history, was founded by Ancient Greeks. Is full of monuments like Aragonese Castle and Archeological places. My father worked in Italian embassy here in Bucharest and here knew my mother who studied in our capitol at that time. After their marriage,he choosed to live in Romania but he love to mantain the contacts with his Fatherland, and I have cousins, uncles aunts and granmother in Calabria, and we meet very often. Maybe my cousin will come in Timisoara in september, like each summer. My father teached me his language and I have not problem in Italy with language, but my italian cousins have great difficoults to speak romanian eh eh eh:) Today we was to beach in Scilla a medieval town on the Sea who have a castle in the Peak who rule over the sea and from it is possible to see all Messina Channel. Me and my cousins fished and go very far from the coast. Was a strong sun. Friday I will come back in my Fatherland Romania and I will continue my holydays there with friends maybe we will go in Semenic a Touristic Place of Romanian Banat. Yes maybe a day we will have a basket match, my friends in Timisoara love also basket and are tall too (also if not like me):) Regards kameraten

Guest		18-Jul-2007 10:13
Well if you knew the first thing about European geography you would know that Calabria (which is where Vlad said he was visiting) is in Italy, not Russia. It is his second Fatherland because he has relatives from there and I think his Father is from there... so what is funny about that?

sergio glavancu		17-Jul-2007 21:46
ye the majority are but hat about the orthadox ones what do u think of them.and stefan serb lol i like how u said in" BOTH OF UR NATIVE LANDS"lol very funny =).is vlad visiting russia??or anywhere in the baltic??

Guest		17-Jul-2007 17:34
No, Turks are Muslims.... Vlad, I just came back from the park now, where I went with some of my good friends to play some basketball, again we found some guys there, this time there were 2 Lithuanians, a Nepalese guy and a Chinese guy... was a great game! Tomorrow I must pack my things and get a haircut, then Thursday in the early morning I leave for my Motherland! I cannot wait! I'm very glad to hear you are having a great time too for Summer and that you are enjoying yourself in both your native lands :) I hope you have a wonderful time back in Romania and have the best time possible before you have to re-commence working again. Kind regards kameraten Stefan PS: It would be great if one day we could meet and play some basketball :)

SERGIO GLAVANCU		17-Jul-2007 02:05
umm vlad im still here i was just in a trip for a few days and u still continue to speak of thise bullshit??that im albanian lol ur very ignorant but shows its because orthadox is a religion of ignorant religious fanatics that never stop.and stefan serb if u kill a black man it will not be considered a racist crime unless u have RACIAL HISTORY in ur records.and i hope u khow vlad home many orthadox churches there is in the middle east??i found a few so the turks u are speaking of there is a few orthadox churches in turkey populated by mostly TURKS.so whats the deal?

Guest		16-Jul-2007 00:18
ALBANIANS ARE POOR AND DIRTY PEOPLE AND EVERIONE KNOW THAT.. GOODBYE

Vlad ROMANIAN		15-Jul-2007 15:41
I anycase I believe that the best phisycal activity is gym, because it is the most complete, I play it when I come out the bank to relax after a work day. regard

Vlad ROMANIAN		15-Jul-2007 15:36
Dobro vece Stefan, I am glad that you also love basketball like me. Me and my friends play it often, also if we play it more oftne before I start to work. Friday I will come back in Timisoara from here and I will be free until 16 august, after it I will re-start to work. Here in calabria these days of holydays are wonderfull, each day I am on beach with my cousins and some friend. Today we play football on beach and swim. My italian cousins prefer football than Basket and being me 1,90tall, I am goalkeeper in the majority of cases. When I will come back in my Fatherland on Friday, I will restart to play basket like before eh eh regards my kameraten

Guest		15-Jul-2007 13:52
Vlad, Yeah me too I love playing ball and I am particularly dangerous from the perimetre, it is incredible how we have similar dimensions, and then both play the same style of basketball. Can you dunk? I've recently been able to and I play almost every day now I'm on my Summer holidays in the park with my friends. We always go there and find some other adult guys there, last week we went and found 2 Russians and a Romanian ;) and we play 3 on 3 against them until we collapse :D It's really the best time for me now This Thursday I'm going to Serbia for a month, it's forcasted to be 40'C it's going to be amazing!! Kind regards my kameraten Stefan

Guest		15-Jul-2007 13:49
The_Albanian, Dude here you go again, who the hell says I can't defend myself? I've defended myself against 4 niggers at the same time once and left them in a mangled heap on the floor. My point which you don't seem to understand is: I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DEFEND MYSELF. I mean how many times do I need to say it man... I told you my dimensions you can believe me or not I swear to God as an Orthodox person that I am 187cm tall so think what you want. You know yourself that Serbs are the tallest and biggest people on the planet I am AVERAGE HEIGHT for a Serb! Average height is 6'1 that is the biggest in the World. Serbs are renowned as being very tall and built like tanks, it is just in our genes. I hope you understand my point now, that I shouldn't have to defend myself whilst simply minding my own business walking around the street or travelling by bus or whatever. These places you've listed are ISOLATED. They are just composed of niggers who fuck amongst themselves. I DON'T CARE. What I am saying is that there is not a Harlem here where there is just 100% nigger gangbanger crips and blood cunts, rather there are niggers in every single area and in every place. The inferior races are spread all over the place here, in every corner of London, everywhere. Man I'm honestly tired of constantly explaining this man, when will you understand? I know being Albanian is a significant disadvantage when it comes to understanding anything, but please try... Where are you getting these facts from that I am scared to say nigger to someone? You are simply assuming these things? All I have said is that THE LAW IS NOT ON MY SIDE IN MY OWN COUNTRY. So some nigger can say to me FUCKING WHITE CUNT or something and nothing will happen if I report it. But if I call a nigger a NIGGER or SLAVE or something, I can get arrested and put in jail if he presses charges, then when I get out I can have 100s of people after me, and once I get fucked up or stabbed, the police will do fuck all to investigate because they don't want to upset the black community. If I kill a nigger it will be a RACE CRIME, but if 5 niggers shoot me or stab me it will be assault, they have more rights that the whites in our own country, and they abuse every single one! They are just animals and nothing more. And you are the pussy ass nigga piece of shit I FORMALLY DARE you to come to my face and say Fucking Serb... let me know if you come to the UK anytime soon in the future... SIEG HEIL

Vlad ROMANIAN		15-Jul-2007 10:12
ehi ehi ehi The_Albanian DICKHEAD is come back after weeks he broke our balls with the false nickname of Sergio Galvancu. The_Albanian I am glad that you finally stop with that ridicule joke. You are a GREAT SHIT, who must wash his shit mouth with ACID before to speak about ORTHODOX RELIGION. Our religion has the best spirit of Christianity. This spirituallity permit us to mantain with pride and honour our identity and to defeat your shit Turk brothers for centuries. Orthodox religion give us strenght, honour, great sense of family and great belive in God. When I see your shit albanians destroy orthodox ancient churches in Kosovo, I dream to kill you all and to wash Balkan Region by your shit presence. Balkans are the Hearth of Orthodox Religion and here is not place for muslims. You must GO AWAY in Turkey if you love so much your shit Islam. Here is a sacre soul a saint place and here is not place for you. YOU ALBANIANS AND MUSLIM BOSNIACS MUST GO ALL AWAY FROM HERE!! You are the symbol of the odious Turk presence here in the past and we can not accept you. You have not in common with Europe because you are muslims. I AM SO HAPPY THAT PUTIN SAY "NO" TO INDEPENDANCE OF KOSOVO. I AM GLAD FOR IT. IT MEANING THAT THE FALSE PROMISES OF BUSH IN TIRANA WHERE YOU STUPID MONKEY BELIEVED HIM ALL, WILL NOT MANTAIN.AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH Was so comic to see Bush promis to siptars the independence of Kosovo and you all become happy for this FALSE PROMISES. NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ALBANIANS ARE SO STUPID AND SO SIMILAR WITH MONKEYS, IT IS BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE TO ALL PROMISES, LIKE BERISHA IN THE PAST PROMISES YOU PROGRESS AND DEVELOPMENT AND HE STEAL YOU ALL THE SAVING MONEY. AND NOW HE CONTINUE TO BE YOUR LEADER AH AH AH AH AH AHA H AH AH AH AH KOSOVO IS ORTHODOX SACRE PLACE. IF YOU SHIT MUSLIMS WILL CONTINUE TO WANT THIS SAINT PLACE, ALL ORTHODOX PEOPLES WILL COME IN KOSOVO TO KILL YOU IN THE SACRE NAME OF FREEDOM AND EUROPEAN IDENTITY.

Guest		15-Jul-2007 04:06
wow some interesting comments since my last one..... Vlad... You are an idiot as I can see... Do you really think I would have that much information about life in Romania??? and anothing thing... you can always tell if it is me by clicking on my name... I have an account here and no one can use it... So really I am not that other guy... So grow up man it is stupid to argue with me regarding your religion because you preached death, you promoted murder, you blessed murdurers, you killed thousands of innocent people. If you call that your "glorious religion" man you need some mental treatment plan, and go back to a catholic school and learn some thology, and morality. There is one think I know for sure and that is no religion ever preaches violence... why people do it, it is free will... And as for your last comment really again stupid... I haven't been around since the first... so kinda stupid to even comment on them.... As for your italian comment... have you heard of the people named ARBERESH??? they were there when Skanderbeg Died. The pope gave the skanderbeg soldiers land to them for saving italy due to numerious rebellions. Ever heard of that??? Albanians live in southers italy in calabria and sicily. Have you ever noticed that those two areas just like in albania at the time used a same code as Kanuni "eye for eye..." I thought you had more logic but appearantly not as much. I can see that you like to read sources that best suits your needs and pleasures your eye and brain.... kinda sad if you call yourself a student. And just to let you know that greeks in general really think that the world goes around them... so every word is really to them is greek. And just because some greeks were born in southern italy, did they live in a greek world??? not really.. did they live for greece and their ideals??? not really... they were probably exiled out by fmaily and they migrated there just like Alexader the great's father... All exiles who were not wanted by the greek gov. and of course they knew nothing else but migrade west somewhere... and they found a place... As for my culture... i could say your culture is shitty as well but it really doesn;t effect me at any way that you have a romanian culture but for some reason serbs, greeks, and romanians all think that and I wonder why. For one we are not violent but actually we are known for our hospitality, second we are old people there and it is known historically that for thousands of years you have tried to wipe us out of the map... All albanians are aware that they were never liked by the neighboring countries but yet we still managed to keep our identity.... My conclusion of you.. is you are an idiot. You need to grow some brains, you are still a young corrupt, disturbed child Stefan... ahahahah you are pathetic again. You have never set a foot into daily life of US... What you named are nothing. There are worst than that. Go to New Orleans, Detroit, Southside Chicago, Harlem, and go where the red-necks are and you will see what life is really like. Go to places where even the police dare not to go through or if they go they better have everything bullet proof.... Again I could really not even give a "Dinar" that you get jumped or that you get your ass kicked by bunch of black people... and if you are afraid to call a black person a "negro" amn you are a pussie i have to say... and you cannot go to prison for that its part of a dictionary. It is used in books all the time... But again you are afraid that you will get jumped and get a wors beating for saying that word. Sergio... Don't worry man... its not like Vlad actually represents Romania because kinda shitty person... he could think all he wants that You are me but his loss I live in the states and you like i have no idea where but oh well if he wants to think like that its his own problem. Don;t get pissed. Redi Tirana... First names like Blerim still exist, hasan is not so common, but emrat e juaj modern nuk jane as shqip ne asnje menyr. Eshte lloj i deformimit te emrave shqiptar... Ata emra qe ti i quan te vjerter ne fakt nuk jane te vjeter por ju te shqiperise keni marr nje rruge tjeter dhe ne ende i mbajm emrat shqiptar te vertet.

vlanteth		14-Jul-2007 20:35
hey vlad you do know that hitler was a jewish not an aryan like you say he was, sure he probably had a hint of aryan blood in him from his mothers side but that is about as far as that goes, in all actuality vlad he was of primarely jewish decent, that is where the dark hair and brown eyes that he had came from, not aryan.

vlanteth		14-Jul-2007 20:06
pathetic you all are bickering back and forth like overworked slaves that have no life, aside from your harsh punishments of years of depleted money resources, and scroundging around like vermine. you all need to stop and take time to recognise who your brothers and sisters are. we might all be from diferent countries and ethnic backgrounds, but all in all we are all the same. we are all human, and unfortunately humans are to blame for the mistreatment of other humans. i'm sure you all know the true stories of count vlad dracula king of wallachia,and all of romania. he and his brother radu the handsome were both captured by invading turks in the early 1400's, and while they were being held captive by the turkish king there father was being tortured and then burried alive, so if anyone is going to downgrade someone it might as well be the turks, at least there you have great reasons for downgrading them. ------------------------------------------------ OH AND BY THE WAY IF I WAS NOT MISTAKEN I THOUGHT I HEARD VLAD SAYING HOW MUCH HE LOVES THE US GOVT. AND HOW GREAT THEY ARE WELL ACTUALLY THE U.S. GOVT. IS CRAP ALL THE U.S. GOVT. IS CORRUPTED TO THE POINT OF NO RETURN, INFACT I HAVE NOT YET SEEN ANY LEGITIMATE PROOF THAT GOVT. SHOULD EVEN EXIST, ALL THEY DO IS SCREW US IN THE BACK RAISE TAXES MAKE OUR LIVES MISERABLE AND THEN THEY START WARS WHICH THEY CANNOT FINISH, UNLIKE THE RUMANIAN KING COUNT VLAD DRACULA WHO FOUGHT OFF THE TURKS NUMEROUSE TIMES, AND NOT ONLY THAT BUT HE HAD THE BEST OR SHALL I SAY WORST TORTURING METHODS EVER USED IN THE HISTORY OF RUMANIA. HE ALSO WAS A HERO TO HIS PEOPLE EVEN AFTER HE WAS MURDERED, AND HIS NAME, HIS REPUTATION, AND LIFE WILL BE PASSED DOWN FOR ALL ETERNITY FOR ALL TO KNOW HOW GREAT HE WAS AND STILL IS, EVEN CETURIES AFTER HIS MURDER.

Vlad ROMANIAN		13-Jul-2007 10:27
To Stefan, Hi my friend yes I play basket and I am specialized in the shoot on three who are my favourite. My tall dimension permit me to play with good performance. Also if the other sport that I love together basket is swimming. Now in these days I am in Calabria, thi sis the reason because I missed some days from this forum. Here is wonderfull is a sea so clean like a glass, a sand like platinum, and a sun very very strong. I was yesterday with my cousins in TROPEA a wonderfull touristic town on the sea full of foreigners. My parents choosed to remain in Timisoara for the moment and maybe will come here for few days next week. Here is a great environment, and here is the possibility to spend great holydays also because Calabria is the most beautiful region of Italy. regards

Guest		12-Jul-2007 11:29
FOR ALBANIANS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aILG5CTi5g HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHA!!! SIEG HEIL

Guest		11-Jul-2007 19:48
Vlad, Do you play basketball? Regards

sergio glavancu		08-Jul-2007 20:59
vlad_slavonian man wtf is ur problem im not the albanian and u khow it im just a regular historian that stumbled upon thise website of many lies and i had to clear my people out of there and leave u in the mess and make u stop claiming what u are not.as i said befoe im a romanian my dad is a mediterean feutured romanian from isai and he speaks perfect omanian all i neeed is 10 day class from him and then i can speak that languge but i am not stupid im not going to waste my time learning romanian jsut so i can anserewe to u i can read scientifical eveidince in both english and all other nkown languges on the earth so to me languge makes no diffrance.

sergio glavancu		08-Jul-2007 20:53
then stop calling romanians white when they are dark people thats all im asking u can call any white person in romania white but u can never say romanians are white in general because thats and injustice to the real romanians to the natives of that land who are tannish brown people.and stefan serb why do u like germanics when u are slavic i have many slavic friedns and they all hate outsiders they hate germans english people and all that stuff and they could not even think of beeing related to those people so whats up with ur aryan theories u never heard of the great slavic hero alexander the great (not the greek one) he slayed alot of germans maby in the thousands by him selve wehn he broke the ice of the lake there army was croossing.i think u should be proud of beeing slavic and not let ur selves be called infirior by the germanic dogs.im not saying thise to seneka or vlad becaus they might be of goth orgin or germanic.i have lots of slav friends and i have no problem with them i jsut have a problem with those in my coutry trying to claim our culture.

Guest		08-Jul-2007 17:48
So what?

sergio glavancu		08-Jul-2007 16:29
stefan serb,that most of them still are now.

sergio glavancu		08-Jul-2007 16:29
stefan serb,that most of them still are now.

Guest		08-Jul-2007 11:56
So wait, what do you hope to acheive by proving that most Romanians were once Slavs hundreds of years ago... I don't get what's your point?

Vlad ROMANIAN		08-Jul-2007 09:21
The_Albanian you are day to day ridicule with your stupid joke to masked yourself with the name Sergio Glavancu. Every thing show that really you are The_Albanian. The three best reasons are: 1) you can't speak our language; 2)since you start to call yourself Sergio Glavancu, we have not see your real name anymore; 3)you have the same attitude of The_Albanian to break our balls with many many comments by day.

Seneka		08-Jul-2007 08:49
For the idiots that think that i have a girl's knikname: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_the_Younger And by the way you albanian fuck, i hope that Serbia's going to bomb the hell out of your terrorist state. GET THE FUCK OUT OF EUROPE YOU FUCKING PUKE BAGS, YOU FUCKING CUNTS< YOU FUCKING HORRIBLE ANIMALS. KOSOVO IS FOREVER SERBIAN LAND. TRAIASCA ROMANIA

sergio		08-Jul-2007 06:41
and vlad my friend u are spreading the terrible lies about romanians ur saying that people in romania alwas looked slavic and all that stuff.while studies of ancient daco-thracians remanins place them as a near eastern looking people having the same nose width and having the same closed eyes as u see people have in near east and in that population having pheno types with round or oval eyes.i am getting thise data from scientist and anthropologists.man im going to havw to spell it out ofr u huh the slavs came to romania by the millions to see a couple of thosand of roman colonists living and a couple of thousands of daco-thracians living there and mostly on the east side by the black sea and by the danube river.hmmm lets see who is going to be the majority the couple of million of slavs or the roman colonists who livd in thousands or the daco-tracians wo lived demorolized seeing as there world was took away from them living in small tribes and not ready for another invasion im pretty sue the slavs would be the majority.so the next time u say ur a real romanian look at ur skin ur hair and ur eyes if ur hair is not black and ur eyes are not dark and ur skin is not tannish then sorry to say but u are not a real romanian.thats all im trying to say and thise has been confirmed to be true by many romanian and many other historians and sientists.vlad u are a very stupid person ur trying to claim that i am albanian or some other stuff but the real reason is u dont have nothing or any history to argue with me.

sergio		08-Jul-2007 06:13
evwen tought the guy who wrote thise is of slavic decent he understood the struggle and thats why i respect him. Oh! p\|catul este net\|g>\|duit Õi rana nevindecabil\| ! Cînd neamurile barbare au înundat România ca un r\| pide Õiroi, g\|sind pînza limbei urzit\|, luau suveiea Õi, prin dreptul celui main tare, aruncau unde Õi unde cîte un fir de b\|t\|tur\| de a lor, groas\|Õi nodoroas\|. Astfel se Ûesu limba noastr\|. Pentru a scoate acum acele l\| tunoiase fire, trebui a destr\|ma toat\| pînza, Õi prin urmare a crea o limb\| mai frumoas\| poate, mai nobil\| si mai înv\|Ûat\|, c\|riia nimic nu i-ar lipsi alta decît de a fi-- româneasc\| (209).

sergio		08-Jul-2007 06:11
thise proves that the majority of the people in romania are slavic orgin.and when the romanian historian refers to DACIANS i have ead he means not the native dacians but the people who lived there beofre the slavs came so that would include the romans and there colonists.

sergio		08-Jul-2007 06:08
During the 7th century and throughout the 9th century the Slavs came to the Dacia area. Their language greatly influenced Romanian. "The Sclavini engaged upon ever closer relations of cohabitation with the Romanized native population both North and South of the Danube" (Niculescu 46). This is an important point, because not only did the Dacians adopt Slavonisms, but the Slavs learned Latin. It is apparent that the Slavs acquired the Latin language because of the absence of many emotional terms of Latin origin in the Romanian language. As the Slavs adopted the Romance language, they substituted "Slavonic words for a number of Latin emotional terms. . . On learning the Romanian Latinate, the Slavs preferred to use in this language words of their native language whose meaning and expressive connotations they knew" (Niculescu 49). Anyone who has learned to speak a second language can understand the Slavs’ preference for their own emotional terms. Often we hear coinages such as Spanglish to describe such a concept. Niculescu goes on to explain that "Romanian is the only Romance language that has failed to preserve amor, carus, amare, sponsa, etc., replacing them by dragoste, drag, a iubi, nevasta, logodna (= betrothal), a logodi (= to betrothe)" (49). Another way in which the Slavs influenced the language of the Dacians of that time was pronunciation. Remembering that the Slavs had adopted the Latin spoken in that region, it is apparent that they would speak this second language with a quite heavy accent. The Romanian of today is pronounced somewhat differently than all of the other languages in its family. An example of pronunciation change that Niculescu gives is the yodization or palatalization of initial /e/ in the personal pronouns. Initial /e/ in most words is pronounced the same as in all Romance languages, but in the personal pronouns the sound has been palatalized, causing it to have an initial /y/ sound. So the word el (he) is pronounced /yel/ (49). Almost all of the linguists and historians who have studied this topic "uphold the idea that the Balkan and Slavic elements contributed to rounding off the individuality of Romanian as a Romance language" (Niculescu 48). romanian historian.

sergio		08-Jul-2007 01:29
u have a girls name tought so sorry bout that.

Seneka		08-Jul-2007 00:12
I am not a girl you idiot ... :))

sergio glavancu		07-Jul-2007 23:07
so as i said the slavic romanians and the germanic romanians cover 60 percent of the romanian population the other 40 are mixed people wiht latin decent or daco thracian decent u can tell them appart easy latin romanians look like spanish people daco thracian romanians look liek dark hair dark eyes and tannish skin.how hard is that to understand.everyone khows romanians are mostly slavs that addepted the culture and languge why is that hard to understand???we see the same thing in bulgaria where the slavs adapted the balkan cultures.why is it so hard to get?????they have tested many times the people of romania and most of them as i ahve said are kin to slavic people so stop the lies.let me make a list.white romanians=slavic,germanic,hungarian. brown romanians=daco-thracians. latin romanians=romans that are kin to italians dark brown romanians=gypsies. that is a chart listing the peoples.iam not lieeng i have studied thise subject for 4 years and they have shown to be true.seneka says she is latin decent why does she then look russian??have u heard a thing called latin russians???i dont see the problem wiht undestandig thise i have went to many websites where romanians themselves claim to be romanized slavs wich is proven to be true.but the real romanians the daco thracians are the only ones who belong in that land.if u have black hair dark eyes and tannish skin and ur from romania and u have no history of gypsies in family then u may consider ur selve to be a real romanian but if u are a gypsi,slav,germanic,hungarian.u can only consider ur selve a citizen of romania do u get it khow??

sergio glavancu		07-Jul-2007 20:25
yeah vlad u can think waht ever u want im in truth a romanian and ur in truth what i have explained.stefan serb,it is normal to see alot of white romanians because MOST OF THEM ARE.im just saying that the natives of romania are not white they are tannish brown people.and about the jawlines i have lived in a russian neoborhood and none of them have ever showed jawlines that u have said they jsut look european. the white romanians are what i ahve explained slavs mixed wiht germanics and so forth they show it on the racial studies of them.so me and the serb dont have a very big argument.the romanians u have seen are the slavic,germanic romanians i was talking about.if u accely gona visit like constanta u will see what i am talking about.

Vlad ROMANIAN		07-Jul-2007 18:49
Stefan don't answer to this idiot I have said you that he is in the truth THE _ALBANIAN who mask himself with this fantasy name Sergio galvancu for say bad things about we romanians. Come on, how can he be romanian if he is not able to speak our language? Sieg Heil

Guest		07-Jul-2007 18:16
yeah I don't want to comment of where who has decended from who etc etc. I just said that of the 10-15 Romanians I have ever met, they have all been white, with brown hair, white skin, and usually green or hazel eyes. My former next door neighbour was Romanian, but unusually they were Catholic. The family's son was a great friend of mine, we spent many great times together in my childhood, having barbeques in Summer, having snow fights in Winter, having pellet-gun wars with the rival gang from the next part of the neighbourhood, and so forth. SO all I am saying is that from all the Romanians I have seen, they have just been white, they look the same as any other European peoples, usually with less dominant jawline as Slavs, but not as pale as Western Europeans, so sort of inbetween Slavs and Germanics. But don't you dare insult Germanics and call them shit people, because I can never take you seriously, anybody who thinks Germanics are shit, when they are at the pinacle of civilisation, is just an idiot. Sieg Heil

sergio glavancu		06-Jul-2007 03:42
and i have seen many romanian famous donia players that were brown so im gussing that stefan serb dosent really khow romanians look.u probably have ur racist brothers that live in romania and claim to be romanian.and stefan serb u are a hipocrit u said that "I DONT KHOW THE ETHCNIC SITUATION IN ROMANIA SO SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT THAT WOULD BE STUPID"those were ur words.any one ask me a quistion a academic qustion and i will respond witht he facts about that.but when u say something of the top of ur minds i can not answere that because i dont want to interfere with peoples BELIVES.dont nkow how to spell it but u get the idea.

sergio glavancu		06-Jul-2007 03:36
stefan serb,and when i say brown romanian i dont mean like brown like indians i mean a tannish brown people whos skin is diffrering from both white people and indian people.kinda in the middle.kinda like a kurd.and gypsies are to mixed in my town the gypsies had brown skin but blue eyes and browish light hair how do u explain that??they came like that from india??.

sergio glavancu		06-Jul-2007 03:25
u guys are really showing how stupid u are.lets go trught our exaples ok we now have a situation in france were many black people from africa come there and learn the languge then when there children are born they are considered french citizens and by law they are french...seeing as they speak the french langue and live there.. so those people should be considered decendants of french people???in the passport it says there french and they speak the french languge...and since they are born in france that makes them french??the same thing happned in romania exapt it happend on a large scale were 60 percent of the population was turned by thise so called romanians wich were really slavs that adapted the romanian languge.seneka how am i the fucked up one when all u wanna do is lie because u do khow when u dont nkow something and u say it that is a lie.and u are friends with vlad wich is a racist piece of shit slavic that is forcing good people to start becoming racist like me.i have many friends from each of the races im no racist but i am a historian that specializez in acinet romanian history and everything u jsut said came off right on top of ur head becasue u cant face the fact its not my fault u are what u are im just a historian posting true facts and i got stuff to back it up unlike u i got siencetific discovories archeological discovories and the racial studies of the balkans.the 2002 when they tested the races of europe they have said that romania has as much slavic people as any OTHER SLAVIC COUNTRY they have seen only 10 percent of latin decent and 20 percent of daco-thracian mixed populations the rest were slavic,germanic,and hungarian. but they have ofund that atleast 40 percent of people in romania have atleast a mix of the original people and latins peoples.an that is only a weak mix so int hat 40 percent they contain a nuumber of people who are more slavic then they are the other.tell me seneka were is ur proff that u are latin or even more a daco-thracian languges do not count because any person on the earth can learn any languge.it counts what heritage u are. thise is my final explaination and if thise that not work to u as u said what am i tryign to prove its not working lol what do u mean its not working u khow how stupid that sounds when u prove something it dosent work ???it depedns what people u are talking to and how they accept it it dosent matter if some people cant face the fact.and vlad wat im saying is not an OPINION it is a fact because i have academic prove of testing of remanins and testing races and racial genes i have never said an OPINION on here only facts while all u say are OPINIONS wich means they are comming from ur mind or someone elses mind that has no academic proff what so ever...and the albanian dosent post no more i bet it is because he found out how stupid u people are as i am finding out just how retarded u are.

Seneka		06-Jul-2007 01:04
Vlad, nici chiar atat de prost nu sunt sa nu-mi dau seama ca asta nu e roman :) Dar ma gandeam ca trebuie sa raspunzi focului cu foc si daca el o face pe naivul si deontologul am facut si eu la fel. La urma urmei eu as invita pe orice strain sa invete limba noastra ca doar ne putem mandri cu ea :) Numai bine Traiasca Romania

sergio glavancu		05-Jul-2007 21:44
seneka how do u khow ur not slavic or germanic dececent have u tested ur racial genes???i have to go somewhere right now but i will explain how i am right and how many even romanian historians have proved thise theory to be right.

sergio glavancu		05-Jul-2007 21:22
stefan serb u never seen them because u have never lived in romanian villages in romanian villages to the east atleast 25 percent of the people there have dark hair dark eyes and tannish brown skin i would khow i lived there since iw as 8 and i have visited the black sea often.and seneka and vlad i dont have to prove anything to u because u are liek the common slavic romanians as ALLMOST ALL ROMANIANS ARE saying that u are of latin decent and all that u are romanians even tought ur decendants of the slavic settlers wo adapted the languge.again seneka and vlad im not going to explain everythign i ahve explained and try to prove u wrong u can think what u wanna think but science and academic history is agaist u.and the romanian languge thas to have alot of slavic words becasue as i have said before the slavic peopel who settled there adapted the latin tounge and used AGAIN I WILL EXPLAIN TO U THE SLAVS USED SLAVIC EMOTINAL WORDS WICH SHOWS THAT THE PEOPLE LIVING IN MOST OF ROMANIA ARE OF SLAVIC ORGIN OR MIXED.omg go search for romanians on google ect u will see how russian they look they dont look like LATINS wich are charactezed by having black hair and dark eyes and tannish skin differeing from white people.and they dont look liek daco-thracians wich is found scientifically that they had very dark eyes and black hair and since they ahve found millinia in hight consetratiosn that means there skin was tannish to brown.so seneka how do u explain the slavic words in a ALL LATIN LANGUGE AS U CALL IT?and the real romanians will a,ways be a minority but stefan serb u will allways see atleast 10 people in the romanian village that have black hair dark eyes and atleast tannish skin when u look at those people remeber that those are romanians not the slavic people who adapted the langue and culture for there own.and those people will be differing the gypsies u khow how??the dress the laugne at many times the culture and almsot everything else.thats how u tell that those people are not gypsyies and wtf are u talking about the gypsyies are invaders jsut like u so u guys are the closests to them

Vlad ROMANIAN		05-Jul-2007 19:39
Seneka, nu are rost sa ii spui toate astia. Nu e roman si gata! Ce mai trebuie sa ii dovedim unui asemena prost. Nu ai vazut ca nu a fost in stare de a respunde cu nici un cuvant in limba noastra? Poate fi roman unu care nu stie nici macar sa spuna Buna Ziua? Daca inca nu ai inteles asta este un albanez care incearca sa baga bete intre noi si sarbi. Si apoi daca era cu adevarat roman nu isi puneam nume Sergio, dar Sergiu. Incearca asta sa si arate ca unu dintre noi da nu merita. Crezi ca asta este unu dintre noi? Sincer crezi ca idiotul asta face parte din neamul nostru si are sangele nostru? Haide sa fim seriosi. Traiasca Romania

Seneka		05-Jul-2007 16:58
Hey sergio, you're one really fucked up young boy. :) Man, get a hold of yourself, wtf ??? I don't know what exactly you're trying to prove but i can assure you it's not working. And by the way i'm neither slavic nor germanic in origins. I, as almost all romanians, am of latin descent. Hope you'll come to you're senses in the end. And one more thing, i wont be addressing you anymore until you'll manage to prove that you have learned our mother tongue. I don't think it will be to hard for you to learn it for we have a truely lovely language. And until then you should be ashamed to call yourself romanian. Noroc

Vlad ROMANIAN		05-Jul-2007 16:42
Bravo Stefane, you are a real man of honour and intelligence, eh eh. Yes you have totally right in what concern gypsy. They cry already because they say that they have not job, not assistance etc...but if you take them to work they refuse and they accept to be integrated only in what concern rights and not in what concern obligations. Unfortunatelly in EU this point are considered like a form of discriminations. Our police beat them and take them in prison but after it, they go to cray at European Court for Human Rights and our State is condamned to give them money. The_Albanian I see that since Sergio Glavancu start to appear here you missing. This confirm my opinion that Sergio Glavancu in the truth ARE YOU

Guest		05-Jul-2007 12:48
Romanian is a Latin language with closest similarities to Spanish and Italian... It is ridiculous that you are a Romanian from Romania and yet you can't speak a word of Romanian... Ponyimayesh li russkii? ja malo pricijam.... sliyechno je Srpskii... So how come I've never seen a 'brown' Romanian as you are claiming they are true Romanians. The only brown people I've seen from Romania are the gypsies and they can be found in Serbia, Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia, Bosnia even in Austria and Germany. Their skin is brown because they originate from India, and their bloodline hasn't been mixed with white people's because they are dirty and no self-respecting white man would go near one... Here is an example of one of these people in Serbia: (if you understand Serbian imas da se upisas od smeha..) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpE5UHKBesE hahahhaahaha translation: Interviewer asks: What is your occupation? Gyspy: I'm a pensioner! Interviewer: Oh, so where did you work before you retired? Gyspy: Well I worked in..... OK fine I didn't work anywhere... hahahaha Sieg Heil We should destroy these gypsies, but keep a few on show in a museum or something to make us laugh, and be distgusting at the same time!

sergio glavancu		05-Jul-2007 08:35
what do u mean OUR LANGUDGE its ur lANGUDGE the real romanian latin languge never had slavic influces until ur people showed up AND MESSED IT UP.

sergio glavancu		05-Jul-2007 08:30
its sergio not segio dick head and i dont care what u belive in my perssoneal background i am wat i have said i am if u read wat i have said about who i am there is no bullshit there.so u can belive all ur golusunations i khow i spelled it wrong but sound it out.second of all what fucking difrance would it make about who i am that thas not change any of the scientific facts i have posted on here that have been tested REAPEATALLY and proven to be correct so i dont khow why ur trying to say something about my identedy that u dont khow its true the main facous is on not what i am but what i have said.albanian please post something i khow there bullshitters but i need ur help right now there saying i am you plz post something..and how many times have i said to u just because u speak romanian that thas not make u romanian it is what heritage/blood u are and my heritage is romanian because my father is and my fathers ansestors most of them look medeterean unlike seneka vlad wich are white people with light hair and skin wich shows who is more romanian a person who just speaks it???or a person that accely has romanian blood??and a person that khows romanian history and culture and were it has beggan from accademic point of view rahter then the invaders point of view.and ur really retaded if i was albanian why the fuck would i defend romania???and native romanians???albanians dont like romanians im sure there is a few friends there and now but romanians and albanians never had a close relationship so why would i try to defend romania if i was albanian????got proved wrong and needs to shut up???seneka u should never talk about people getting shot because wat goes around comes around so u might be the one who gets shot for trying to act like a real romanian but istead u are of slavic or germanic orgin white people who settled in those lands and to thise day made the real romanians kinda like umm the minority.and to the serb u khow how much germanic people killed slav little children by giving them candy that at the end when ur done with it the candy explodes in ur mouth because they bit on the fuse wich blew there theeth into the little kids brain and the survivors of thise evil deed killed the germans while they sleeped one by one cutting there trouts so the rest wont wake up or just finding a grenede and trowing it in the buildint they sleeped in.u need to study the historyof slavs a little closer and u will find out that even tought they later became not the same people they had a much richer history then any germanic people because in ancient times the germanic people were one of the most uncivilized cultures int eh world they almsot never washed there clothes and killed there own people jsut to get more women and other plunder germanic people have never been good people they only rose on the backs of the natives they invaded.natives of all the natinalities they destoyed by taking over there couty and culture and dystroying it. so please the serb give me one example of the germanics as beeing GOOD PEOPLE.

Vlad ROMANIAN		04-Jul-2007 20:25
Stefan Serb, Sergio Galvancu in the truth is The_Albanian he is not romanian because he refuse to translate my romanian sentences in a my precedent comment and he refuse to answer to me in romanian language, so HE IS NOT A ROMANIAN. Is impossible that a romanian don't know his language. This is a typical albanian stupid joke, very very ridicule. To The_Albanian: if you have a bit dignity and seriousity you must finish with this stupid joke

Guest		04-Jul-2007 17:30
shitty germanics... whether you are the_albanian or not, nobody can call Germanics shitty you idiot they are the best people by miles and miles and miles

Vlad ROMANIAN		04-Jul-2007 16:17
Come on The_Albanian, stop this stupid joke. Segio Glavancu are you in the truth w all know it. Is impossible you are romanian and you can't speak our language, so don't be ridicule. If you have your opinion, you must have the courage to show it directly and personally, without mask.

Seneka		04-Jul-2007 10:37
That idiot albanian that goes around calling himself sergio glavancu should really be shot :))

sergio glavancu		03-Jul-2007 22:57
vlad are u retarded im not the albanian i was born in isai norht eastern romania i cant speak romanian because my dad married a russian women and since he could speak both languges because he was a merchant he taught us russian so my mom wont have to go to the trouble and learnign a simmilar influced slavic langgue with romance words.and second of all im not talkign about the retarded invaders NORMANS that invaded south italy im talkign about the greek people livng there as u mentioned w the anthropoligists dont test white people in that area they tested a few dark people and all of them showed to be related to greek wich proves the greek theory but they also have seen that greek and the greek south italians show the same genes as sub-haran africans mening they were people like egyptians or berbers that had a european mix when they came into that area i was not talking about the BLACK africans i was talkign about the egyptians and berber peoples.if u are white meanign light skin brown to light hair and eyes any color form lihght brown to light blue u are not a real italian or a romanian or anythign u claim to be u are the invaders liek the normans or the germanic people in the east or the slvic inavaders so why wot u say it how it is say thise to make it true. VLAD U ARE PROUD TO BE THE ANSESTOR OF THE RAPEST BARBARIAN GERMANIC AND SLAVIC PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BELONG TO THE LANDS THEY CLAIM THE LANDS THEY HAVE STOLEN AND NOW ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE U WERE THE FIRST PEOPLE THERE.and romania personaly has very little roman blood becuase the legions of those soldiers that invaded dacia were from NORTH ITALY meaning they were acceely decedents of celtics and germanic peoples that were mixed if not owerwhilmed the latins.an i have never even seen albania or an albanian or ever talked to one.ur really pathetic when i start suppling academic facts u start to make people think im stupid that im jsut the albanian becuase u see that u are beeing proved wrong and u need a distraction is that what u need????and Redi Tirana that exacly what i mean if u gice a person the same things he will turn out the same no mater what.=) atleast we have one saine person here.VLAD stop making distractions u very well nkow im not the albanian so stop thise bullshit and u very well have a shity germanic personality wich can only be used to those germanic/slavic invaders that leave in romania.

Guest		03-Jul-2007 20:49
My bad forgot to write: SOUTHALL IS WHERE I LIVE

Guest		03-Jul-2007 20:48
Man I'm tired of explaining myself to you, you cn think what you like I don't give a shit, I am proud to be a Neo Nazi and I am proud of myself in everything I do. I will come from the absolute gutter to be a renowned doctor, I will set up my own surgery and work hard like a true Aryan, I will never abuse what I have and I will never forget from where I came. I will teach my children how things were and why things are then as they are. I will raise them as true Europeans, wherever I end up, because as things stand I will be leaving the UK as soon as I get my degree without looking back. I will let videos talk from now on: This is Southall, the 95% inferior area in West London Borough of Ealing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_YT7ABnYD8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HixHxvwYNJs 20% Niggers in the area: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXO9KiRkbkM I will post more in time, so you don't get bored and so you can watch them all. WARNING TO EUROPEANS: You may be appalled by the behaviour of these inferiors, do not be alarmed, because they are in truth just unevolved monkeys, so just dismiss their behaviour as animalistic. SIEG HEIL

Vlad ROMANIAN		03-Jul-2007 16:37
SERGIO GLAVANCU YOU ARE IN THE TRUTH "THE_ALBANIAN", SO IT'S RIDICULE THAT YOU APPEAR THERE WITH THIS FALSE IDENTITY OF ROMANIAN. THE_ALBANIAN I DISCOVER YOUR JOKE VERY EASY, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO SPEAK ROMANIAN WITH ME AND SO YOU SHOW YOU ARE NOT ROMANIAN. IN THE SECOND POINT YOUR REASONMENTS SHOW A TYPICAL ALBANIAN DCIKHEAD WHO SHOW THAT YOU CAN NOT BE ROMANIN BUTONLY ALBANIAN. South Italians are not with african origin, YOU ALBANIANS HAVE AFRICAN ORGIN, with your shot language and your shit mind. THE FIRST SOUTH ITALIAN REIGN WAS FOUNDED IN 1355 BY NORMANS WHO WERE A PEOPLE FROM NORTH EUROPE. King RUGGiERO THE FIRST founded the Reign of SOuth Italy at the start of Medieval era. Ruggiero The First was Norman and his people founded the First SOuth Italian Reign who dure until 1860, with the Reign of Two Sicilies who was conquest by Garibaldi for Italian Unity. Norman peoples had a great influence on South. In JOnic coast of Calabria, there are many Castles built by them, like also in Sicily, and in PUglia (were you shit albanians came since 1990 for break the ball of italians). Therefore in SOuth are also many people with blond hair and blue eyes. I can present you many my italian friends from Calabria who are blond and with green or blue eyes. After KING RUGGIERO THE FIRST, the Reign of South Italy was drived by KING FEDERIC II of SVEVIA who were hald German half Norman. He founded the University of Naples and many other wonderfull castles in South. Before Normans who influenced South Italy almost all Medieval Time, in South were Romans, BUT BEFORE THEM THERE WERE ANCIENT GREEKS. The old name of SOuth Italy is MAGNAE GRAECIA who meaning GREAT GREECE, because also many centuries before Romans, Greeks came in South Italy and founded there almost ALL SOUTHERN ITALIANS TOWNS. The town of my dad is REGGIO CALABRIA, it was founded in the VII century before Christ by Ancient Greeks and its old greek name was REGHION. IN fact there are many former Greek MOnuments lile Bronzi di Riace, two wonderfull Statues of Greek Time who are exposed in the NATIONAL MUSEUM OF MAGNAE GRAECIA who is exactly in REGGIO CALABRIA. Greeks founded also almost all the towns of the South: SIRACUSA MESSINA (greek old name ZANCLE) RAGUSA (greek old name IBLEA) SIBARI (greek old name SYBARYS) CROTONE (greek old name KROTON) NAPLES (greek old name PARTENOPE) TARANTO (greek old name TARAS) And many others..... South Italy was the hearth of Ancient Greek culture and many important Greek personality of the past were born there, like PITAGORA who born in Crotone (exactly in Calabria). So my dear stupid albanian I know that you are jelaous because Albania is a SHIT without history and culture and in miserable condition, but you must respect the other countries who are better than you. I don't permit you to offend my loved South Italy who is a jewel in the Mediterran. ROMANIA and SOUTH ITALY are mine two countries who I love very much. I am proud to be sons of these two great people, of these two great countries and of these two great cultures. If you are only a poor albanian, this is you problem. Regards

Redi Tirana		03-Jul-2007 15:10
Stefan, why do you have a military uniform in the picture? (aren't you 17?). I can't send you a photo of me because i don't want you to feel ugly! You know so few things about Albania but you don't want to learn so i don't give a fuck. But let us be clear, the names that you used (Blerim, Hasan etc.) are not common nowadays in Albania. Only old people and maybe albanians in Kosovo use them. In Albania you will find more names like Genti, Igli, Juli, Eno etc etc. This being said i don't see why we should like more names like Stefan or Vlad, instead of Blerim and Hasan. That is part of our culture so i respect these kind of names even though nowadays people want their children to have more "modern" names. But you're so narrow minded and your general culture seems approaching to zero. That is why you can't accept other names instead of the ones you're familiar with. Or it may be even worse : you don't like everything that is albanian. It may be good or bad, but you don't like it. You have problems man! Your subconscience is stronger than your conscience. But you know, finally i'm happy, i'm so happy, because your life will always be like that. And you will always suffer. In London you will always be surrounded by people that you don't like, by pakis, by arabs. Black people will touch you ; you will feel their breathing ; you will hear them talking, shouting, and you will become nervous. You will see someone named Arjan in the street with a brand new car that you will never have. You will see a serbian girl french kissing a black, an albanian, an arab. You will see people interconnecting with each other and then finally, if you're lucky (=smart), you will understand that your pure race theory is shit. You will understand that a black raised by a civilized family will be civilized. That a gypsy having had the same education as a white guy will be the same as him. That a white guy who has their (in)education will be the same as them. That an uncivilized, an idiot, a dickhead can be a white, can be you... Good (bad) life to you!

Guest		03-Jul-2007 12:03
nice view? no, it gives the TRUTH!

Guest		03-Jul-2007 01:18
read this article, it gives nice view of ex-yu events http:// search.japantimes. co.jp/cgi-bin/eo20070702gc.html

sergio glavancu		02-Jul-2007 23:49
lol funny???im not a gypsy at all u retard i have no gypsies in my family wtf are u talking about??im not worhty to speak to u???even toguth i say all true facts and i jsut have bad puncuation.and u say all lies and u ahve good puncutation aand that amks it true wow slavic/germanic people are realyl retarded.are u a retard u guys need to leave romania because u origianted int he baltics and germania.and my peopel well half of what i am have beenin romania for more then 6000 years and ur tellign em to leave while ur people raped and raided our villages and mixed the populatino and now ur tryign to say that real romanian are like u ARYANS???real romanians are daco-thracians who are dark people with dark skin and they have a very diffrent face from gypsies thats how u call tell u retard.so b4 u call some oen gypsy plz stfu and khwo who they really are ok???umm and black peopel do get arested for sayign racial thigs u retarded its called racian profillign and they have to pay a fine...thats happend many times b4 with the peopel i khow.and ur the fake ass slavs have nothing to do with aryans u dum shit and ur a wanna be aryan:?? =) slavs have higth cheek bones that differe them form all other europeans lol wanna be???u slavs and germanic people are the wannabes saying that ur romanians and stuff like that when u have ligh skin and u came liek 5000 years later then the real romanians so why wont u go back were u have originated from ur so called aryan salvs wich lived int he baltics and germanic people who belong in west europe.WE romanians have nothign to do with u...even if u claim to be somehow the same people as us???but ur white and romanians arent ???slavic people messed our people up stole our homeland and tryed to say it was there own and now the people who are decendats of them are making up even more theoris???that are bull shit. =) =) =).who really nedsto go back to there homelands ??do i hear the serb and vlad and seneka???ya i think i heard those names on the going back to there homeland lists.and thats what i am saying u fuckign called me a gypsy jsut like all ur other slavic brothers in my courty they call real romanians gypsys even toguth real romanians dotn live poor like the gypsies and have nothign in common with them.and they call themselves slavic people romanians thats not wrong???they dint take over our land???if u have problems with black people why are u taking it out on the rest of the world that isent white???u have no racial education just as ur friends and u somehow think u are right???the only education u get is racist books that were writin by some naiz retards who dotn khow shit but guess what they can spell good wich makes them right to u right???dont ever call em a gypsy.slavic rapest dont ever call me a fuckign gypsy thats the most insuled thing u can ever say to a REAL ROMANIAN.well im half but still dont ever say that again unless u khow that im a gypsy??wich im not??and gypsies are alot darker retard gypsies here are darker then even pakis as u said.only mixed gypsies look like that.u callign me not worthy while u have no education at all abotu thise kinds of subjects and why cant u jsut stay out of thiseu have nothing to do with thise cuz unlike ur brothers u dont claim romanian so i dont care wat u think becuaeu are a normal slav =).that has racial issues..and black peopel dont jsut go around callign romdom peopel WHITE CUNTS.u must of said something.but if he did then his just a racist retard like u.arent worthy to speak to a retard??ok i agree...

sergio glavancu		02-Jul-2007 23:42
lol funny???im not a gypsy at all u retard i have no gypsies in my family wtf are u talking about??im not worhty to speak to u???even toguth i say all true facts and i jsut have bad puncuation.and u say all lies and u ahve good puncutation aand that amks it true wow slavic/germanic people are realyl retarded.are u a retard u guys need to leave romania because u origianted int he baltics and germania.and my peopel well half of what i am have beenin romania for more then 6000 years and ur tellign em to leave while ur people raped and raided our villages and mixed the populatino and now ur tryign to say that real romanian are like u ARYANS???real romanians are daco-thracians who are dark people with dark skin and they have a very diffrent face from gypsies thats how u call tell u retard.so b4 u call some oen gypsy plz stfu and khwo who they really are ok???umm and black peopel do get arested for sayign racial thigs u retarded its called racian profillign and they have to pay a fine...thats happend many times b4 with the peopel i khow.and ur the fake ass slavs have nothing to do with aryans u dum shit and ur a wanna be aryan:?? =) slavs have higth cheek bones that differe them form all other europeans lol wanna be???u slavs and germanic people are the wannabes saying that ur romanians and stuff like that when u have ligh skin and u came liek 5000 years later then the real romanians so why wont u go back were u have originated from ur so called aryan salvs wich lived int he baltics and germanic people who belong in west europe.WE romanians have nothign to do with u...even if u claim to be somehow the same people as us???but ur white and romanians arent ???slavic people messed our people up stole our homeland and tryed to say it was there own and now the people who are decendats of them are making up even more theoris???that are bull shit. =) =) =).who really nedsto go back to there homelands ??do i hear the serb and vlad and seneka???ya i think i heard those names on the going back to there homeland lists.and thats what i am saying u fuckign called me a gypsy jsut like all ur other slavic brothers in my courty they call real romanians gypsys even toguth real romanians dotn live poor like the gypsies and have nothign in common with them.and they call themselves slavic people romanians thats not wrong???they dint take over our land???if u have problems with black people why are u taking it out on the rest of the world that isent white???u have no racial education just as ur friends and u somehow think u are right???the only education u get is racist books that were writin by some naiz retards who dotn khow shit but guess what they can spell good wich makes them right to u right???dont ever call em a gypsy.slavic rapest dont ever call me a fuckign gypsy thats the most insuled thing u can ever say to a REAL ROMANIAN.well im half but still dont ever say that again unless u khow that im a gypsy??wich im not??and gypsies are alot darker retard gypsies here are darker then even pakis as u said.only mixed gypsies look like that.u callign me not worthy while u have no education at all abotu thise kinds of subjects and why cant u jsut stay out of thiseu have nothing to do with thise cuz unlike ur brothers u dont claim romanian so i dont care wat u think becuaeu are a normal slav =).that has racial issues..and black peopel dont jsut go around callign romdom peopel WHITE CUNTS.u must of said something.but if he did then his just a racist retard like u.arent worthy to speak to a retard??ok i agree...

Guest		02-Jul-2007 23:10
you aren't worthy to talk to me imbecile, you say you can't speak good English, ok that is fair enough, but why is your punctuation so bad? Punctuation is the same whether in English or French or Romanian or Russian or whatever the hell is your language you fake ass NIGGER. I don't say Nigger to any nigger because I can get arrested, but they can say WHITE CUNT or whatever to me infront of police and nothing will happen, whether I then smash that nigger or not is a different story, but in the eyes of the law I am inferior to them, that is what I am trying to tell everybody, that THEY HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN US, and they do not deserve to have even half the rights we do, let alone MORE in our own COUNTRY and CONTINENT! SIEG HEIL Leave gypsy, just because you originate from India it doesn't mean you are a true inhabitant of Romania, I know you are frustrated because of your skin it is like a Pakis because you are a CIGAN (Roma) but don't take it out on others ok, just accept it and return to Bombay.

sergio		02-Jul-2007 21:32
and i just want to say racism is so retarded man acting liek and animal talkign about infirior and superior are u guys dumb any people that get shot any race die form bullets any oen fells pain any one cries.it is not there fault that serb thas not have any friends wtf are u talkign aobut they go on bus to there group of people are u dumb???that called going to a friends house do u sujest all people always walk alone and have no firends at all???if u want a fair fight then call one of em out 1 on 1 and dont talk shit that will get the whole group as u call em i call em as friends hanging out dotn say shti that gets all of them pissed???umm if u say the n word to a black person u cant jsut mean it to one of em and say like oo i ditn mean it to u i meant it to ur friend ofcuarce u goan get jumped jsut as me and my friends jumped slavic romanians for callign us gypsies.if u dotn say anything an have a problem with that person call em out one on one jsut and only say thesse words "i got a problem with u lets go one on one no jump ins or that makes u a pussy" and trust em u wil have a fair fight.and u said that all thsoe people are a burden on ur community are u dumb???its becaue they grew up in poor neiborhoods having litle stuff and guees wat when they go to school on top of that all they get called niggers hmm ye that dosent get people mad not at all dumb ass....all ur schools are racist they tryed to drop me out all of times most of those tiems only for talking then i look at all the white people and guess what ??there talkign louder then all of us the teacher ignores them then i look at all the romanians and black people and middle eastenrs and guess wat there sitting quite in the corner sayign nothign at all relizing how fucked up thise is.but back to the subject at hand no one is inferior ALL PEOPLE ARE SUPERIOR.if u give a person the same education one is not gona be smarter then the other u will have learned thesame thing...if u give a rich family to any one of any race with the same everything u think that those people of any race whill turn out to be in a gang???when they allready got money will they steal a watch that they already have???so plz shut the fuck up with all the racist bullshit.if u are a racist ur not a human or anythign u claim to be u are an animal a ditry shitting were there sitting animal.not those good animals liek wolfs and hawks but ddirty animals kinda like PIGS?

sergio		02-Jul-2007 21:07
and arayn does not mean noble ur confusing the ancient iranian word BOG wich meant noble one wich the slavs adapted the word and today use it for the word god.

sergio glavancu		02-Jul-2007 21:05
VLAD u must be really retarded pakistanis are indo european afghanis are indo european -.- punjabis are indo european and they are not mixed with any of native population in india there are there own people and they have showed many asian people to be indo european u want to khwo history of indo europeans???.bieng bronw hair and brow eyes does not make u medeterean it ether makes u half or not at all. medetirean is not consder as a normal european ethnic group -.- u khow why it was formed into a european ethnic group ????becasue in the north of italy almsot all people who live there have like brown hair light skin thats why they considered there genes to be very "RESECCIVE"but studies on ethnic groups reaveal that peopel in south italy are a diffent ethnic group then peopel in north italy in the south u moslty see like 6 out of 10 people who have very bacl hari dark eys and dark skin looking kinda like NORTH AFRICANS.the same thing was found in greece the people in sout italy have the same consetrations as south greeks and islander greeks.and further studies show that italians and greeks have desendet from africa before indo europeans arived that why u see a very medditerean people in ethopia ,somalia havin higth brinde and little lips.so umm u wanna call these people white people that ahve conections to people who are darker than anyone ur racist to?????and that onyl the case if the indo eruopean theory is true u khow how many historians (motly form medditerean areas) constioned the indo eruopean theory ???the aswnere to that is they all had diffrent languge but used common words when addapted by the trade languge im not sayignt thise is true abotu adapting the trade langue but im sayign it is more accurate then urs seieeng as they foudn multile trade routes in europe as late as the begging of the roman empire.and again it comes into play the indo medeterean medditereans that u have mentioned ...i will lsit a list of medeterean peopel and see wat u thin =). arabs,yemenese,south lebanon,south itlay,omans,south iranians,40 percent of romania,south greeks north greeks are mixed with slavs and vlachs another mixed slavic people.and most people of north africa and middle east and southern europe are medetereans that u so despretely try to call indo eroupeans arabs are semetic and indo european hmmm how o u explain that???and medeterean was gona be listed as another race in the census that would onyl be giving people with dark eyes dark hair and tan dark skin skin to be in that racial group but thwe subject was droped i dotn khow why it was droped nothign went wrong but i think i ahve and idea what heppend =).

Guest		02-Jul-2007 17:38
Just come back from work which I have to do for 3 weeks in a doctor's surgery full of fucking Pakis!! Not one person speaks English I hate it so much it is places like this that just confirm all my previous prejudices and hate. I should film a fucking video and show you lot, as if you can't find enough videos on youtube proving just how uncivilised and scummy the inferior races are, even when they live in a civilised first world country where everything is available to them. The excuse that "they don't know for any better" can no longer be used, and they are being exposed now for what they are, closer to animals than humans. Even the fucking Doctor is a piece of shit! Anyway... ...Yeah I didn't say I wasn't Aryan, I said by Hitler's definition I am half Slav so I am an inferior, but by today's meaning of course I am an Aryan. Most blonde people here are stupid and slow, it is to such an extent that there is a stereotype of a "Blonde" person, as being ignorant and ditzy. Blerim Hasan Hakim Tirana You have a problem with my appearance you pigeon fuck? Lonely of what?? Show me what you look like so we can all laugh

Vlad ROMANIAN		02-Jul-2007 16:26
Stefan, to be aryan not mean to be obligated blond and with blu eyes. Yes that is the best type of aryanity, but really to be aryab mean to be INDO-EUROPEAN and WHITE. Aryan meaning in its ethimology NOBLE. Hitler was not blond, Goebbels was not blond, Himmler was not blond, and Hitler was also not tall. But they were all aryan because they were european. And european race is the race who born by Indo-Europeans. I have italian aspect because my father is from Calabria and I have mediterran aspect,. I am 1,90 tall but with brown eyes and hair. When I walk in the streets of Reggio Calabria (the town of my dad) I seem like all the boys who are there. All europeans are aryan by Germans to Greeks, by English to Italians, by Danish to Portugueses. Also to be mediterranean is aryanity because is and indo-european race. So you are aryan exactly like me.

Redi Tirana		02-Jul-2007 14:11
Stefan you're not an aryan? Oh what a pitty, you must feel lonely...hahahaha (BTW is it you on the pic with the military uniform? If yes, i see that we enroll "kids" in Serbia). Guest, we are the descendant of illyrians because our languages have many similities. The albanian language doesn't belong to any of the big language families like the romanian (latin) or serbian (slavic). So if you don't like that, it doesn't matter to me. At least i know that i have nowhere else to go (we have always been here), but you, you could still return to your asian and russian friends (that's your home) :P Vlad, no comment ;) the albanian, did you hear anything about the new Kosovo's flag and anthem?

Guest		02-Jul-2007 13:05
hello everyone My computer has been replaced in the last few days so I have had no real access to the internet which was not really a problem except I couldn't post any responces here. I don't know about the ethnic situation in \|Romania, for until last year I didn't even know Romanians were Aryan and Romanian language was Latin, I thought they were Slavs before, I was ignorant to all that, so for me to now make comments on the history of which I have no idea would be stupid, and as I am not Albanian I will not talk about things I have no idea about. Do you have blonde hair and blue eyes Vlad? I am afraid I do not, I think somewhere along the lines my bloodline was polluted possibly by Turks during the 500 year occupation of Serbia, so I have brown hair and brown eyes. But there is nothing I can do about that, and I can accept that in Hitler's theory I am not Aryan, I am an inferior. Although it seems since his death Neo-Nazism has accepted that all Europeans are people who have experienced similar history, with the same Christian Valours and civilised culture, so I am all for a Slav-Nord Union to defeat the non-humans (aka Neanderthols) of Europe (ie: Niggers, Pakis, Arabs and all other people who are a burdon on our society, tearing it from every seem. The_Albanian, Dude you have never met me, and i will not assume anything because for all I know you could be some 7 foot 150 kilo strong-man but I can assure you that I am no weakling. And I don't really know what else to say because it's easy for anybody to say that over the internet, I mean you Albanians have multiply-personalities over the internet let alone even tell the truth about one of those. I can just tell you my dimensions and the fact that yeah people have ATTEMPTED to rob me in the past, but just like you have ATTEMPTED to steal land which is not yours, they did not succeed, and did not go away with the same looking face as they approached with. And I must stress to you that the London is 100x worse than any of your shitty places in USA, and I can say this BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN. New York is nothing LA is nothing Long Beech is nothing Brooklyn is nothing All of those places have high rates of INTER-GANG violence. But why should I give a shit about that? I am not in a gang. And of course you can see by your comments PRAISING gang culture what type of boy you are, but I mean I expected that, because that is your SHIPTAR MENTALITY, KANUN LAW, it is your savage primitive neanderthol mentality to be in large groups and act like you own the World. I COULD FUCK ANY SHIPTAR ON HIS OWN, AND I AM ONLY 17 OK. You can never ever see a Shiptar on his own, you cowards can you not walk down the street by yourselves? Only time I EVER see Shiptars on their own here is when they are on the bus sitting on the front row as close to the driver as possible, on THEIR WAY TO THEIR SHIPTAR CREW. So you can think what you want from your mansion in Beverely Hills built on drugs trafficking money and whatever, but I know myself what things are like here and how I live and what I have been through. Oh what, sorry I forgot, you know me better than I know myself.... : )

sergio		02-Jul-2007 04:19
i khow people who hae sold fruit in the market stalls in south bulgaria u will always see a bulgarian fightign a greek because thye greek trying to rip him off

sergio		01-Jul-2007 16:03
omg have u ever even lived in the balkans???????

sergio		01-Jul-2007 16:00
and u do undestand that bulgarians and greeks hate eahc other same goes for all the other other orthadox borthers u have clamied.

sergio glavancu		01-Jul-2007 15:57
omg are u retarded im not the albanian.jsut because me and the albanian are not racist and we andestand the bullshit of the orthadox religion dosent make us the same people.=).and wat u have said right there i about beeign a provaSLAV i undestood everything that langue is very simmilar to russian but not same but i now at the end u said 'TO THE PIGS OF KOSOVO".since i khow wat u have said that means ooo that means im not the albanian because albanians dotn speak a slavic languge do they .=) and we dicorored ur joke all the bullshti u said thats ur joke.and since u have been cauth in ur onw bullshit ur trying to make me and albanian look like were a joke like u.

Guest		01-Jul-2007 15:14
The Albanian, you know that Kosovo will not be independent :) And you albanians are getting nervous :D Sorry, bye! ;D

Vlad ROMANIAN		01-Jul-2007 11:51
ZIVEO RATKO I PRAVOSLAVIJE SVE NA KOSOVOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ZAJEDNO ZA POBEDA

Vlad ROMANIAN		01-Jul-2007 11:38
We are proud 100% for our Orthodox religion and you must respect it. Our ortodhox spirituality is the spirit of our fathers who fought bravely in the past for defend Balkans against Turks. Orthodox spirituality ius based on honour, on brothership between christian peoples, on courage and on family dignity. Our religion is very proud and it was one of the greatest sources of our courage in the past. See our Medieval Churches. they have wonderfull images with bllody representantions who show the sacrifices of our peoples for defend our identity. That images represent scenes of the spiritual immortality of the great heroes. Is so wondefull to see that images where are our Saints and Heroes who rise on sky in Paradise after a glorious battle for defend the Fatherland and the Christianity. We love our Orthodox identity, is one of the most reason of our life. You try in the past to defeat it, but we won and we will win for ever against us. History show that little people like Romanians, Serbs, Greeks, Bulgarians, show to be GREAT thanks to their ORTHODOX IDENTITY AND BROTHERSHIP. These 4 great peoples who in the past were unbited in the QUADRUPLE ALLIANCE against Turks, can win and arrived also in the doors of Istanbul who were near to surrender to us. Orthodox religion is the GREAT SPIRITUYAL UNITY who permit to Balkan Christian Peoples to become GREAT, PROUD AND GLORIOUS. We fight with Orthodox Religion in our Hearth and therefore we win. When you come in a Orthodoc Church you feel something magic who come in you and increase your sense of Dignity. If you listen our Chants, our Prayers our Images and if you know the history of our GLORIOUS CHURCHES, you can understand why ROMANIANS, SERBS, GREEKS AND BULGARIANS ARE GREAT PEOPLE. Our ancient warriors before to statrt the fight, pray and recomanded their spirit to God. This is the secret of our IMMORTALITY. ORTHODOX PEOPLE ARE IMMORTAL REMEMBER IT! ROMANIANS, SERBS, GREEKS AND BULGARIANS ARE LIKE SPARTANS AGAINST THE PERSIANS (TURKS, ALBANIANS AND MUSLIM-BOSNIACS) Ratko Mladic is a GREAT HERO who conserve in himself the spirit of the ancient BALKAN ORTHODOX WARRIORS who save Serbia against Islam aggression. Muslim-bosniacs try to islamize that places, and Ratko Mladic, fought and won. MLADIC IS AND EXAMPLE OF BALKAN COURAGE AND IS ALSO AND ADVERTISEMENT TO ALL ISLAMICS WHO WANT TO AGGRESS US, THAT BALKAN ORTODHOX PEOPLES ARE STILL PROUD AND STRONG LIKE IN THE PAST.

Vlad ROMANIAN		01-Jul-2007 11:20
The_Albanian, stop to call yourself Sergio Glavancu. We discover your joke

sergio glavancu		01-Jul-2007 04:36
exacly my poitn these people are pulling words out of there asses and facts also out of there ass????they had no poof wat so ever they only say statemets that come out of racist books that proves how retarded they are.and u got one thing right he is form MOTHER RUSSIA vlad and the serbian and seneka all problaby have slavic decent.and they are so pathetic they try to say that u and me are the same people because were not racist and we state our facts unlike them???is that why u call us the same people???hmmm???

Guest		01-Jul-2007 04:13
ahahah Vlad you are pathetic.... and the same goes to you Guest. Pathetic thats what i would describe you as. If you had some status i would respect you but you speak out of your assess. ahahah Vlad... you orthodox kingdom is stupid. This really proves that your priests supported Ratko, Arkan, and the Scorpions on their kilings. They blessed them, and you see them being blessed while they knew what they were going to do. Very sad, your system, your greater orthodox nation/identity is sick and full of corruption. If you really believed in Jesus, you would not bless your soldiers who would be going to kill publicly. That is a Sin buddy and I know your faith better than you even though i am not catholic/christian. You and your orthodox people commited crimes and that is why they are wanted. They were blessed by your "holy" people to go kill others. I see that you have a violent religion. As for you defending your places as I can comment Nis was a mostly serbian populated area and that is hours away from Kosova. So really no connection to Kosova in any way. Again my point proven, you are pulling words out of your ass... Proud of your race... good for you Proud of your Fatherland... good for you too Proud of Your religion... yes murderers of Balkan. Even your Mother Russia kills innocent poeple in Cecenia, Armenia. Geogia and many small nations. Simply Murder that is what comes in peoples mind when they hear Orthodox. Stefan I really could care less that you read racist books and that you believe in them. Just getting jumped, shows that you are weak. You have no fellow serbs defending you. Do you know why gangs/mafia exist? their soul and their main function is to bring security/safe life to their members. You claim to be a sports person, and you can't defend yourself... pathetic again. If you think UK is bad... come to US you would probably die. Guest... Have you ever wondered in Macedonian, Albanian, Montenegro, Bosnian, croatian, hungarian, austria, US and Canadian forums. And you will see what they say about you... ordinary citizens some from their native country some from the diaspora. And as for that site.... have you ever watch TV anything outside of Beograd 1 and 2??? Do you ever look at what others say??? As for the support... why would they have a Plan B... this shows your weakness of being a leader. This is why you have no leaders in your country this is why they all get killed. Do you really think people would want to hve a Plan B.... Plan A is independence... Plan B will be independence as well... either way we will separate. Ahahaah I have 3 citizenships one of them is Serbian and i never use that. I have citizenship of UNMIK, SERBIA, and US... But once we separate my citizenship for Serbia is annulled because I register in another community. So really i am not proud to be serbia or will i ever declare myself being a serb. Even before the way and before Yugoslavia took over Kosova, we always identified ourselves as Albanian and not as Serbs... So really you 100K citizens that live in Kosova now will be Kosovars with serbian Ethnicity... So you take your little stats and lower them... And Last... I am a single person here. No one is copying me. You can click on my name...

sergio glavancu		30-Jun-2007 23:41
so ur serbian brother and u need to stop atleast spreading thise lie???

sergio glavancu		30-Jun-2007 23:41
so ur serbian brother and u need to stop atleast spreading thise lie???

sergio glavancu		30-Jun-2007 23:39
u accely have to look like a romanian to be one ok.......no blue eyes, no light hair.

sergio glavancu		30-Jun-2007 23:38
i told u were i was born and why i dotn speak it ???>>>??? and jsut cuz u speak romanian and u are form there thas not make ur ethincinty romanian ok????

sergio glavancu		30-Jun-2007 23:37
umm im not the albanian u retard i told u who i am and everythign i said is accely true i dotn bullshit like u i listed all my facts and everything.????so wtf ??? i cant speak romanian u dumdass my dad never taught me and did u even read wat i have said?????

Vlad ROMANIAN		30-Jun-2007 23:17
Sergio you confirm that your real identity is THE_ALBANIAN, I wrote you some sentences in Romanian language and I wanted to see if you were able to answer me in ROMANIAN LANGUAGE. And you answer me in English, so you are not Romanian. If you were romanian you have not problem to answer to me in Romanian language and to translate what I have written to you in my precedent comment. SO YOU ARE IN THE TRUTH THE_ALBANIAN. Stefan Serb had right

sergio		30-Jun-2007 23:06
murals speeled wrong

SERGIO		30-Jun-2007 23:01
lol my dad is romanian and the real kind dark.and are u kidding????there is no truth?????umm if they took the DNA samples THEY NKOW FOR SURE WAT RACE U ARE AND WHAT U LOOKED LIKE.becuase they test the genes....how is it not true???in college they taach that it is true more accurate then some racists historians tha vlad has mentioned that tell the most bullshit i have ever heard.and what do u mean non exact scinces??it is very exact becuase they done many tests that confirm it to be true..>><< in ur oppinion the racist mind of vlad is more right then a scince that was tested and proved to be correct???the hair color is determeind by the milia in the upper derma everyone khows that and the milinia in eyes is also determided by that??thats wat they teach!!!!and proven to be correct.u jsut cant stand th fact that ur wrong so ur even lieng and saying NON-EXACT SCIENCES.omg if u dotn belive that tell me why thise proves to be true with the mulas of ancient gatae/dacian/thracians wich show them as a dark people. wat u think the gatae people painted the wrong people?????umm dont think so.thank u very much but u have listed noooo academic proof that even goes with ur theory.so u jsut got it on the top of ur confused racist minds who dont khow wat theretalkign about and searsly lieing .no saying thise exacly to seneka but to vlad and to seneka if u think that.

Seneka		30-Jun-2007 22:42
If you really are in college you should have known by now that there is no absolute truth when it comes to anthropology, sociology, psychology, etc. especially when it comes to non-exact sciences like these. If some professor somewhere wrote a book on a subject that DOES NOT mean that he/she is wright. I wrote back there that you are an idiot because you claim to be Romanian but you don't even know the Romanian language. And I stand firm with my opinion :))

sergio		30-Jun-2007 21:25
please read the works of A.Alexeiv Phd-Physical Anthropology (u.sofia).all the people who are on here so u wont get missleaded about the ROMANIAN people form slavic/germanic racists such as vlad and seneka.B ecause most people born in romania are of germanic/slavic decent who try to claim real romanians as a fair people.please read before u make ur judgement u can find hsi answeres on wekipedia on the discussion of thracians.

sergio		30-Jun-2007 20:27
u and vlad are a racist people who cant get there facts strait.no proff wat so ever.

sergio glavacu		30-Jun-2007 20:25
im an idiot tell me why u cant even say wat u said in english so i can understand or say it in russian w/e u want.???why cuz u khow ill prove u worng??

Seneka		30-Jun-2007 19:59
VLAD, uite aici link-urile catre cateva alte clipuri pe youtube care mie cel putin mi-au placut foarte mult: youtube.com/watch?v=lmU2BO5AbLI youtube.com/watch?v=Yi9NcXf2yGY (strabunicul meu a luptat la Marasesti, si sunt mandru de asta) youtube.com/watch?v=aS34Y5jVW1M RES NON VERBA

Seneka		30-Jun-2007 19:52
LOL Idiotu' asta cica e roman dar nu stie o boaba de romana, ha hahahaha Doamne fereste-ne de prosti ca astia-n viata de zi cu zi :)) hahaha...

sergio glavancu		30-Jun-2007 19:26
the analasis of dacian remains showed "HIGHT" concetrations in upper derma how much more simple can it get huh how must i break it donw for u khow????:???that means they were not only a dakr haired dakr eyed and tan skinned people.it means most of them were almsot all of them were becuase u dont find consetrations like any in europe besides greece and italy..that means they were darker then any european today they accely looked like near eastern people... and u can shower me with ur facts of fake romanians giving fake history lessons that they came up out of no where and that is BULLSHIT. it dosent get anymore clearar than that. i have DNA proof and wat do u have soem racist theorys to explain the white peopel in romania????DNA PROOF!!!!!!!!omg u cant even say anythign else cuz u have no academic proof.btw did u see the murals =) looked like dakr peopel to me =).

sergio glavancu		30-Jun-2007 19:07
so plz say somethign accademic liek they found reamains that were tested in a lab ...........

sergio glavancu		30-Jun-2007 19:04
and i like the statement u said that u BETER NKOW MOST OF ALL THAT WE ARE ARYANS.umm romanians in the east dont think were arayn at all.the people here think there are either desendants of slav selltlers romans and dacian.ur jsut a really really retarded person that need sto go back to his coutry with his racist therorys of lies.

sergio galvancu		30-Jun-2007 19:00
umm sarmats were accely an turkic/iranian mixed tribe that lived form ukraine to kazakstan.and they have uncovered many burial mounds that shwo there culture to be diffrent form any in dacia????

sergio glavancu		30-Jun-2007 18:55
umm fisrt of all im a romanian more then u u aryan dick haed but i was born in moldova were ur peoples common languge is spoken called russian and my father never taguth me romanian so i went to school in bulgaria were they trach in russian.second of the dacians did not show any aryan feutures on trajan colum they showed more of oreintal dress and way of life look for many oriental people liek persians assyrians they had the same dress while germanic people or aryans as u call them dressed exacly liek celtic barbarians having in no way contact to any of the eastern coutris ????and why wont u refere the teachings of a racist white boy from acceaial ACEDEMIC RESEARCH like the ones i have posted the murals of the dacians wich show they as dark people and the reamaisn wich show them as dark people. dont confuse ur brother goths who raped dacian villages to be dacian ok???and seneka plz repeat all u said in english seeing the setiation.and again u did not post anything accademic once more proving the wrongness of ur racist theory.u want me to accely belive a racist therory that a germanic guy said about my country?????accely that even proves my fact we have so much ARAYANS in our country that they are takign over the whole damn country and sayign that it was theres from the begging kinda like umm the people in america???took land from indians and now call it there home land thise is the same thing jsut in two deffrent geographic states.tell me in wich way did the dacians show any simmilarites to ancient aryan warriors???wich way ??clothes ??beard???

Guest		30-Jun-2007 12:22
BTW što je gadno biti šiptar...

Guest		30-Jun-2007 12:19
BTW Albanian, go to some croatian forums and read what they think about you :D They really find you discusting and make fun of you :D I mean the ordinary people in Croatia.. I just cant wait Albanians to declare self independence :D That will be your fatal mistake :) You already know that it will not be the plan of Ahtisari.. EU supports independence becouse there isnt another PLAN.. They have nothing else to support. AND BECOUSE THEY WANT TO DEPORT KOSOVO ALBANIANS BACK HOME, and you as an emigrant know it very well.. You albanian are deeply living still with Serbia's help... You import every product, electricity comes from Serbia, Serbia serves the Kosovo debt, the only thing that comes viceversa is Narcotics.. BTW you are a citisen of Serbia (still and will always be[unless you have a passport of the country you are living in] ), and you should be proud :D

Guest		30-Jun-2007 12:07
Albanian you just missed one thing KOSOVO IS, and will always be SERBIA.. :D You know it :D

Vlad ROMANIAN		30-Jun-2007 09:00
Sergio Glavancu you are not a romanian you are the same person of THE_ALBANIAN. If you are really romanian you know better than me that WE ROMANIAN AR ARYAN. You are a DICKHEAD who don't know the history of Romania. Dacians, our ancient father were an Indo_european people who appartain by Getic Family of Thracians and Sarmats. So they were ALL WHITE.Also JULIUS EVOLA a German Intelectual friend of Hitler, said that ROMANIANS HAVE THE TYPICAL ARYAN ASPECT OF THAT ANCIENT WARRIOURS ON TRAIAN COLUMN. He met in Bucharest at GREEN HOUSE (The Genreal Quarter of Iron Guard) the Youth of Iron Guard and he said that he was glad to see a so PROUD ARYAN PEOPLE, fanatic for his ideology. SERGIO GLAVANCU, IF YOU ARE REALLY ROMANIAN I GIVE YOU A SORT OF "EXAM", ANSWER ME IN ROMANIAN LANGUAGE TO MY FOLLOWING ROMANIAN SENTENCES: Sergiule tu esti un adevarat cap de pula fara nici o nadezde. Ma inchipui ca ai un cap patrat de magar prost care se labareste pe veceu la reviste care le stii. Oameni ca tine sunt rusinea tarii noastre si daca as avea intr o zi noorcul de a te prinde ti as sparge capul pana acand as avea in mana creerile tale calde de magar. Daca mai incepi o data cu tampenii de ale tale venim cu toti camaradi sa te luam la tine a casa si chiar iti facem serviciul asta. SO IF YOU ARE REALLY ROMANIAN, ANSWER ME IN ROMANIAN AND "TRANSLATE ME THIS SENTENCES". To The Albanian: I know you are an albanian SHIT and you are the same DICKHEAD of Sergiu Glavancu. We Romanians love our Fatherland and we ARE PROUD FOR OUR ORTHODOX RELIGION. ALL ROMANIANS ARE VERY VERY CHRIOSTIANS AND IF YOU COME IN ROMANIA YOU CAN SEE THAT IS FULL OF CHURCHES EVERYWHERE AND ROMANIAN PEOPLES WHO COME IN CHURCH ON MONDAY, KISS THE DOOR OF CHURCH AND THE SAINT IMAGES CONTAINED IN IT. OUR ANCIENT MEDIEVAL FATHERS VLAD THE IMPALER, STEFAN THE GREAT, MIRCEA THE OLD, MIHAI THE BRAVE, FOUGHT FOR DEFEND OUR NATION AND OUR ORTHODOX RELIGION. MANY OUR BROTHERS WERE KILLED IN THE PAST BY YOUR SHIT TURK BROTHERS, ONLY BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO PASS TO ISLAM AND THE PREFER TO DIE AND CONSERVE ORTHODOX RELIGION AND DIGNITY. IF YOU SEE THAT VIDEO THAT I POST BEFORE YOU WILL SEE LIKE WE ROMANIANS ARE PROUD TO BE ORTODHOX. A CHRUCH FOR US IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR LIFE. WE BORN BAPTIZED IN CHURCH AND WE HAVE FUNER WHEN WE DIE IN THE SAME CHURCH. IN EACH ROMANIAN VILLAGE THE WORD OF THE POPE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. EACH ROMANIAN HOUSE HAS AN ORTHODOX IMAGE AND ROMAN IAN GIRLS WHO IN THE PAST WERE STOLEN BY TURKS CHOOSED TO DIE IN DANUBE INSTEAD TO MARRY WITH AN ISLAMIC TURK SHIT. OUR PRINCE STEFAN THE GREAT BECAME SAINT LAST YEAR AND OUR PEOPLE WAS VERY HAPPY FOR IT. WE ROMANIAN LOVE OUR FATHERLAND, LIKE SHOW THE BATTLES FOR OUR UNITY IN THE PAST EXPECIALLY IN MEDIEVAL TIME. EACH OF US FEEL GREAT WHEN WE LISTE OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM AND EACH OF US HAVE A ROMANIAN FLAG IN HIS HOME. IF YOU GO IN CLUJ NAPOCA EXPECIALLY YOU WILL SEE THAT EACH HOUSE HAS A ROMANIAN FLAG ON WINDOW FOR SHOW ROMANIAN IDENTITY OF THAT TWON AGAINST HUNGARIAN ARROGANCE. WHEN IN TARGU MURES, IN 1990 HUNGARIANS START TO KILL ROMANIAN TEENS ON THE STREETS FOR PROFITE OF THE FALL OF COMMUNIST REGIME TO STEAL OUR LOVED TRANSYLVANIA, MANY ROMANIANS FROM ALL THE CONERS AND SIDES OF OUR FATHERLAND CAME THERE FOR FIGHT AGAINST HUNGARIANS IN URBAN WAR AND WE WON AND HUNGARIANS WERE DEFEATED. SO WE ARE PROUD OF OUR FATHERLAND, PROUD OF OUR RACE AND PROUD OF OUR RELIGION. To Stefan: Hey Friend, have you seen that video on youtube that I suggest you? I wish you a great summer my friend.

Seneka		30-Jun-2007 08:20
Filosof roman, scuze am scris grec din greseala.

Seneka		30-Jun-2007 08:18
:)) idiotul asta crede ca eu sunt fata, hahhaha. Bai esti atat de prost incat nu stii ca Seneca a fost UN filosof grec =)) cultivatule.... lol

Seneka		30-Jun-2007 08:14
Articol pentru ungurii "civilizati si superiori noua" : gandul.info/actual/ungurii-muncesc-romania- jumatate-banii-ceruti-localnici.html?3927;840853

sergio glavancu		30-Jun-2007 07:40
so the next time u say WE ROMANIANS u beter be reffiring to germanic or slavic romanians either then romanians themselve ok???

sergio		30-Jun-2007 07:23
when u try to prove me wrong vlad and that white girl...plz tell me thge information and were u got it form dont plzz dotn jsut say stuff form ur minds plz post facts strong facts that accely prove wat u are sayign insted of curssing and makign people try to think u are right ok?

sergio		30-Jun-2007 07:07
vlad is not romanian god dammit.his a fucking germanic person that claims he is like all others living in romania do u khow how many sub races romania has????40 percent meddeterean only 40!!!!!7 percent nordic ...and the rest of the precentage is alpines type A wich means there are ether slavic or germanic.most peopel who say they are romanian are aceely slavs and germanic people. man how hard is that to get romania is an island bettween slavic nations umm u think the settle jsut skipped romania and went off???....................i got proof that tells us no since romanian langue wich is soppuse to be latin has so many slavic word in it and most of these words are emotinal words wich are the characteristic wich happens when people adapt diffrent languges.like when u learned english u use "ok" even when ur speakign in ur languge thats one of the emotinal words of use who are u goan trust a histoian who has studied for 4 years ??? or a bunch of white kids who cant get the facts strait and lie about 90 percent of time.

Guest		30-Jun-2007 06:23
Ahahahahaah Vlad.... Man you are a funny Person. The orthodox nations eheheheh my god... Serbia is like an old women who's been fucked too many times and lost every war. Just apply for Social Security to survive all the wards. First of all I am not from albania but from Kosova but my ethnicity is albanian. Second, Kosova is not hated by our neighboring countries besides serbia. Montenegro has extreme interest in Kosova because 70% of their tourism is from kosova, Macedonia wont dare not like kosovars because of the high population in macedonia. All these nations you have mentioned actually suport kosova independence. Funny that you mention croatia because they actually strongly support our independce. And they are very greatful of our men because some of their greatest generals were albanians from kosova. Many of them led their armies. See Vlad, you are romanian, you personally are a shitty person. Every romanian I have known hates romania because of people like you. As for your history lessons, remember serbs were not the only people living on those lands. Cekula was in Nis which is couple of hours away from prishtina. So really you are not talking about a region which was major Albanian population. You say kosova should be under serbia, believe me that will never happen because we will never accept that. We will self declare and US, and EU will quickly recognize us, and so will our neighbors. And as for the battles in kosova between the albanians and serbs, it was never religious because we werent fighting for our religion because we have orthodox albanians as well living in kosova. So your stupidity and lack of information really shows. You seem like a narrow minded person who thinks you are everything... should read more than one source.... As for the support... The refugees were sent back in 2000 because the contract was to get away from macedonia because they couldn't support the large number of refugees. So realy your claims that they want to send refugees back is really false. By now they received citizenship. So i would suggest you really shut up... you really have no idea what you are talking about Stefan.... You are still a child growing through puberty. You can read any racist book you want and no one really cares that you got jumped and got your shit stolen by people. That just shows that you are a weak person. And lastly I am not Tirana. As you can see i post when you guys are asleep, showing that I live in the US. Guest... Have you ever read Danas and Serbian media??? Remember G-8... Danas said US and Russia have agreed to give kosova back to Serbia. Hah... Yes I know we are a poor country in europe but the poverty and homelessness in albania and kosova is 0%... we are only a poor country because we have no jobs but just go there and everyone got a roof over their head and plenty of food to eat. But anyway to you the rest serbs.... you guys are brainwashed people i swear. You do not see away from your Serbian TV controlled by the government. You are almost a communist country.

stop the lies		30-Jun-2007 06:14
orthadox cristinas my ass were are u guys from????wat part of romania???????whiteserzelland???allmsot every where in romania i went every oen fuckign hates orthadox christians they pay for there sins in money to the pope or wat ever its caleld to forgive sins???? dude u sirislosy must have a father that molested u???? or ur really white as hell with blue eyes.u never seen dakr peopel living in romanian villages??there are many romanians villagwes with dark peopel all over .wtf u guys arent form trasalvannia are u?

sergio		30-Jun-2007 06:04
and all u white peopel need to shut up aobotu romania do u khwo there is a group of peopel in romania that kills peopel liek u everyday????i have seen the body of one in the forest.he had white arayan feutures and how i lciked to see a person liek that with half of his head missing.man i couldint turn away it was the most beutiful thing i saw yes im a savage but only becuase the white peopel are makign real romanians a minority in there own courty the white man has forced all peopel to be savages with there racist polotics and there way of takign other peopel cultues and destoryign them.liek all u white peopel on here.

Guest		30-Jun-2007 05:55
umm ok so ur gona judje my facts wrong because i dotn khwo english very well and i cant speel?????ok do but jujge the facts of the historians and peopel who sudyraces that moved me to thise conclusion of statments true.

sergio		30-Jun-2007 05:45
lol ok ur the dumb ass u white bitch u are not romanian u are a person being born in romania get it???? and ur friend are to??? the acient dacians were to dark serch the term thracian on wekipidia and look at discusiion and go all the way donw to murlas of the gatae or getics as u call themliwek a retard ussualy average for a white person and then look at tghe eamans of thracian women that show mediterean feuttures meanign dark hair tan skin and dakr eyes.wich they foudn with hight consetraitons of millinia if u white peopel nkow wat that is?im form romania and i khow wat im taligjn about vlachs were not dacians they were romanized slavs/goths allready being mied with local populations i studied race for 4 years.....and the population in romania with daco/thacian asesstry is only 20 percent the rest are white poeple who claim there romanians liek that white ho and her friends that called an expert in tracology a dum ass.the aryan romanians livign there are desedents of goths the other whtie peopel inculde such a other germanic peopel and slavs.so b4 u start clamign stuff u cant prove why wont u lsit soem facts that accely say that stuff rather then say ur oppinion .look u the thracian women look for and im gona list thsie in easy steps for the white peopel to understand ;/ .one go on google two search thracian remains julia roberts 3 click on the link.hey have named the thracian women julia roberts becasue of her teeath that shwoed there were vry well takign care of.so b4 u make a stupid comment liek real romanians are arayans plz just list all the fact that say it rahter then speakign those retarded little racist white minds of urs???ok??plz do ??

Guest		29-Jun-2007 22:32
Yeah it is surely a sign of our superiority, and not like 3 metres but with a 10cm waist like some African mutated tribes, rather we are tall with an athletic build, the shape of true Aryans :) Regards Kameraten Sieg Heil

Vlad ROMANIAN		29-Jun-2007 21:57
Ehy Stefan is incredible! You have my same dimension. I am 1,90 and 78 kg. TWO ARYAN RACES Regard

Vlad ROMANIAN		29-Jun-2007 21:53
Ehy Stefan is incredible! You have my same dimension. I am 1,90 and 78 kg. TWO ARYAN RACES Regard

Vlad ROMANIAN		29-Jun-2007 21:49
To Seneka: GREAAAATTTT!!!!!!!! Bravo myu brother ! I thank you show me this video. My brother I suggest youto don't consider the stupid affirmations of some dumbass or idiots like Nagy who are our enemys. WE ARE ROMANIANS AND WE GO ON WITH PRIDE AND HONOUR! To Stefan and Seneka: i invite you to see this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=RakueZAlipo&mode=related&search= Is a video of MIHAI VITEAZUL (MIHA THE BRAVE), A Romanian Prince who fought and win for the realization of ROMANIAN UNITY. Regards to all out friends

Guest		29-Jun-2007 21:39
the_albania Nervous breakdown.... hmm ok :S Albanians tend to be the ones doing the JUMPING just like your nigger and Paki brothers because you are primitive with a gang mentality, but rest assured I have been jumped by niggers many times, BUT NEVER BEATEN. I have broken 2 knuckles once but the monkeys went down like sacks of shit. To be honest it hasn't happened for a while due to my size (188cm, 77 kg). Before when I was smaller I had to rely on my karate and just general strength. Sorry for late replies, I have been experiencing difficulties with my comp. I have re-read half of the first volume of Mein Kampf just in one day! I bought it today and I couldn't stop reading, even on the bus full of niggers on their way back from school, as I left the bus one of them muttered something, too scared to do anything, I turned to the group of them and made the Nazi Salute and "SIEG HEIL" and they didn't do shit, it was a great moment hahahaha. Romanians, Do not even consider sergio glavancu's statements, his punctuation just shows the callibre of person he is. I bet he is just one of those Shiptars with their many aliases, as you have seen them do before. Infact are you sure the_albanian and Tirana are not the same shiptar?

Guest		29-Jun-2007 21:25
Nagy, Listen ok yes you are more affluent than us today, because you have had a pleasant 17 years with GREAT INVESTMENT from the West, whereas the West invested their bombs into Serbia's infrastructure. During the Cold War Hungary was a piece of shit and don't deny it! You are an idiot you just consider the current situation with no current background as to the reasons why things are as they are. Yugoslavia was the Monaco of Eastern Europe nobody can deny this and you all looked towards Yugoslavia as an icon in this period. Serbs live in Hungary? hahaha There are 300,000 Magyars in Serbia, yet there is less than 10,000 Serbs in Hungary hahaha don't make me laugh just get the fuck outta here. You IMPOSED your so-called 'Civilisation' on us, thanks so damn much man we loved to be your slaves, we showed our gratitude in 1914, Franz Ferdinand was the lucky recipiant. Your best sport is waterpolo and WE ARE EVEN BETTER THAN YOU! HAHAHA! Ok, I'm finished.

Vlad ROMANIAN		29-Jun-2007 21:15
We Romanians are WHITE, ARYAN, CHRISTIAN and proud to be it. We are descendant of ancient Dacians. They were Indo-European people who appartain to the family of GETICS the same family of Tracians and Sarmats. A typical Romanian characteristic is a particular colour of eyes. CAPRUI is a colour between blue and green and is a typical romanian characteristic who appartained also to Dacians. Possevino a Medieval phylosophe from Italy who visit Romania, told that Wlachs who were the original people of that place, and descendants of Dacians with a latin language were TALL, WHITE AND WITH A PARTICULAR COLOUR OF EYES. Wlachs is the medieval name of Romanians. We are proud of OUR RACE, OF OUR HISTORY OF OUR BLOOD OF OUR FATHERLAND AND OUR ORTHODOX RELIGION.

Seneka		29-Jun-2007 19:37
Pentru VLAD: youtube dot com/ watch?v=-dQRJvsvZZU

Seneka		29-Jun-2007 19:34
Hey sergio dumbass, i'm very white and VERY ROMANIAN, so shut the fuck up. All my friends are white and they have no links with people from other countries. So why don't you try talking shit elsewhere.

Guest		29-Jun-2007 12:09
Redi Tirana read Guest post a little bit below. YOU ARE NOT ILLIRIAN YOU HAVE NOTHING OR VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH THEM YOU NEVER OCCUPIED KOSOVO, its just an albanian dream.. cuz you are nation so miserable in every way, so u need to make things up. Just follow this link and see : ww w.geocities.com/dobidi 6921/ucmpb. html?1045420838830 (with spaces between) Albanians just go from extreem to extreem.. First they were so close to China, now they think they are America.. That kind of oppinion will just destroy the albanian people in years to come..

Redi Tirana		29-Jun-2007 10:01
Vlad knows shit about history. You said that Kosovo belongs to the people who were there first. Exactly and we, albanians, were there before serbs. The fact that serbs fought a war there (in which albanians took part too) will give them a land? Ok the serbian state was born and so what? And please stop your idiot comments about churches in Kosovo because you dont give a shit about the christian religion. Man you're a nazi and you hate other races (compare your opionions with those of Jesus and realize how far you too are : nazism is a religion by its own!).

sergio glavancu		29-Jun-2007 06:12
u guys are almsot all wrong about romanians.first of all let me remidn u that about 60 percent of romanian population isnet romanain at all they are hungarians,slavs,not many greeks but still a few and other people.real romanians are not white people at all they have a tan skin dark hair and dark eyes and if u say those are gypsies u are a white person who can not get rid of the fact that u are not a REAL ROMANIAN.i have rpove that analasis of dacian reamians show hight consetrations of millinia in upper derma that means the dacians were a tan people witrh black hair and very dark brown eyes. and they had midle eastern look.the white people who live in romania say that these people are gypsies and turks and call all sort of names.but the truath is that white peopel in romania need to go back to there coutries such as serbia russia ukraine and germany.im from romania so im not jsut a foright speaker saying somehting.so since we got that clear lets talk about the subject of albania first of all vlad u are a crusader u will kill inocent people jsut because of there belives talkign about we orthadox cristians.second of all ecvery oen need sto shut up cuz no oen asked ur mind if u go to kosovo and fight the war agaisnt or with idenpendeace then u can say something and then u will see how dirty it aceely is the polotics of it the polotics of everything.

Vlad ROMANIAN		28-Jun-2007 16:40
We orthodox brothers are like Spartans and Leonida against Persians of today (turks, albanians and americans) with their pig Xerxes Bush

Vlad ROMANIAN		28-Jun-2007 16:21
To Albanian: I can guarantee you that we are totally AGAINST the independence of Kosovo, because it is not a country it is a part of its real Fatherland who is Serbia. The only way for a serb land like Kosovo to be independent and free is TO REMAIN SERB. Is a non-sense to give independence to a land who don't exist because it is not a country but a PART OF A COUNTRY. What reason will have to give independence to Bayern from Germany? Bayerns are 100%Germans. What reason will have to give independence to Texas? Texans are Americans. And we can post many other examples. The fact that albanians are 90% there in Kosovo is WITHOUT IMPORTANCE. Because a country appartain to peoples who came there before and gave rivers of blood to defend it and not of peoples who can only to make more sons. Serbs are the original inhabitants of Kosovo and they fought many many times for defend it. Albanians came century later, and became more than serbs, because islamic like you love to make 10 sons for family. So also if in Kosovo remain only 100 serbs, and 3million albanians, it WILL BE FOR EVER A SERB LAND. CELE KULA SHOW SERB SACRIFICE FOR DEFEND CHRISTIAN IDENTITY OF OUR CONTINENT. KNEZ LAZAR SHOW THE RIGHT FOR SERBS TO RULE IN KOSOVO. Cele Kula ( in Nis) is a tower built by TURK PIGS with head of HEROIC SERB TROOPS killed in battle. Only 35000 serbs against 100000 turks, show all their courage killing many many ottoman troops, but their little number unfortunately cause their lost. But turks consider that victory a sort of moral lost because serbs who were less, can to fight without pause, showing courage and heroism. Therefore Turk Sultan choosed to behead serb troops died in that battle for built a tower who musted show the Triumph of Ottomans, but really was a reaction to a moral lost. Serbs were able to kill a Turk Sultan. SEE THE WONDERFULL FILM "BITKA NA KOSOVO" FOR UNDERSTAND. In 1999, while Uck killed innocent serb teens on the streets, and rise up only than to american help, serb students went on their bridges with TARGETS for defend their infrastructure. SO it show that also after centuries after the Battle of Kosovo Polje, serb youngs show the same MEDIEVAL HEROISM of the past. while you cry to NATO for ask help. Narodna Vojska was a great and strong army and you know better than me that before american bombs, Uck were near to be totally destroyed. So to be majority is not a reason for steal a SERB LAND like Kosovo. And remember......the tragedy of Aleksinac, Serb TV building in Beograd destroyed by american bombs, that train destroyed by american rockets, WERE ALL CRIMES and no one West TV mentioned them. All West Media can only to cry for poor albanians and stop. I hate Clinton and I wish him to die, for his crimes. We can not accept that our ortodhox christian brothers who fought together us against Turks, Hungarians and Austrians, suffer for this crime! Romanian Government is a side but Romanian peoples is the TRUE ROMANIA. And the TRUE ROMANIA will be already on the side of serbs in this battle for Justice, like show in 1999 romanian volunteer troops who came in Kosovo for help serbs and the great popular manifestations against NATO'S bomb in 1999. That our government who choosed to gave our bases to American Pigs for bomb Serbia, LOST THE ELECTIONS, few months later, and this show that we support serbs and not you. A real Romanian is nationalist and ortodhox and he can't accept your aggression against serb orthodox chruches in Kosovo. We consider that attacks against serb orthodox churches in Kosovo also an attack against us! Now after centuries, a new Ottoman danger is on our doors: American plane to steal Kosovo to Serbia, and Turkey in EU. We must fight for don't permit it. GLORY TO ORTODHOX BROTHERSHIP! FOR EVER UNITED AGAINST ISLAM AGGRESSIONS!

Guest		28-Jun-2007 10:24
Look at funny albanian propaganda :D This is the bigest lol I've read after unenciclopedia : ww w.geocities.com/dobidi 6921/ucmpb. html?1045420838830 (with spaces between) quotes : "Belgrade in 1900 used to be 80% populated by Albanians. In the same century, the Russian Army which counted more than 400 000 soldiers attacked the region and killed many innocent Albanians. The lucky one escaped the slaughtering, and the unfortunate had to face the worst atrocities in the history of Balkan Peninsula." Lol albanians you are sooo funny :D I pitty the albanians really ..

Guest		28-Jun-2007 10:15
The_Albanian, you know that you Albania is the poorest county in Europe, you are just jealous cuz you come from a shitty country with the most retarded people.. You know that.. We don't suffer from "to be loved" or "not", but one thing is certain, you are hated by every country that you have bored with, Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia and esspecialy Greece, in witch there are many albanians, witch are treated there like PIGS.. Croatians make a lot fun of you and find you discusting.. For Romanians&Bulgarians I don't know. Europians hate you, thats a fact.. Why do u think some countries whant independent Kosovo? To DEPORT Kosovo-albanian "refugees" THATS THE MAIN REASON! You know that Kosovo will never, NEVER be independent, you know it, the time fore independance passed.. Just listen what the Belgium ambasador to the UN said yesterday.. You albanians think that somebody likes you?? America supports you becouse you are the dumbest nation balkanicwide and eurowide, and they can influence through albania, cuz you are an inferior race, you just listen to orders, but thats normal cuz you didn't have anything in your history, and your land IS IN POVERTY throught history. .. You have no famous actro/musician/sportsmen/scientist/nothing... You have a powerfull lobby in America, financed by drugs and prositusion.. THATS WHAT ALBANIANS DO BEST, drugs and prostitutes.. They even call you WHITE AL KAHIDA! Kosovo will always stay under Serbian rule, and I think you know it very well! AS for you albanian, you're an emigrant, and thank your ALAH for having a computer.. If you stayed in Albania you would ride a donkey and collect something in the field dirty shiptar

Guest		28-Jun-2007 03:26
ahahahhahaha... Sorry I didn't get a chance to reply at anything lately... did stefan have a mental breakdown???? Lol you guys are some idiots I swear. Lol ahahahahahah Stefan you sound like a gypsie asking for help.... where is your education buddy??? where is your civilization... how come albanians in diaspora are not in poverty??? i don't know any albanian that is in poverty or poor or that gets as jumped as you do... You think UK got black people??? think about US buddy where people are gun hungry.. where you can get e gun with no problem. You are pathetic buddy, along with Vlad and Ratko. You leaders one by one are recognizing that you have lost the war and that you have no ideology or connections to Kosova. You would try harder to get it but you can't you have lost it all. Your Yugoslavian / serbian identity is gone. You have nothing left, the entire world hates you. They all see you as criminals who commited 3 genocides. You started three wars. You are land hungry. According to you, the entire world is serbian. You have the same mentality as greeks. You are brainwashed man. I feel very bad for you that you actually fall for the crap that you fall. First, you have not experienced war first hand. Second, your logic of the war is so messed up, so twisted, so full of propaganda that I no longer see it as funny. The world hates you buddy. You can have everything but the world still hates you. China is siding with US because it needs its business... Your poor russians buddies are trying to gain power again by attending the South east energy summit in Zagreb. Trying to sell its electricity to gain power in the region. Did you hear that they canceled its meetings with Albania and Romania. I wonder why... that is because those two countries support Kosova Independence. Croatia is siding whatever EU does but russia is trying to influence. Do you really think that Croatia and bosnia will side serbia??? Russia is very dumb. Do you really think Greece will support serbia. Probably not because they will get trouble back home from the huge ethnic albanian population. Same thing wtih Macedonia with over 33% of the country albanian populated. Get with the world buddy, you are too behind with everything. It is very sad.

Guest		27-Jun-2007 20:00
I've been many times in hungary and you are shitty people, so little people speak English, cuz you're stuped.. Everithing you have is becouse you licked austrian asses 4 looong time

Seneka		27-Jun-2007 19:29
Good ! Thank God! Leave already, get the fuck out of Romania, we don't need idiots like you laying around here. Have a nice trip !

Nagy		27-Jun-2007 16:21
Ratko, you can take your sports in your ass. Serbians live in hungry and Hungary is near to arrive West's standards. What is Serbia in front of us? Nothing!!! We were and Empire and only a great crime like Trianon Traty gave your and to your romanian bastard brothers our historical lands. Serbia and Romania are poor and uncivilized, not because they had dictatures, but because they are two Balkan ortodox peoples, without sense of order and clean. You are two lazy peoples, closed in your fanatic nationalism. My dream is to leave as soon as possible Romania to live in Hungary where the life is far better. this is the differences between romanians and me. I am magyar and I can have a better life only going in my original country. And this is also the difference between magyars of Vojvodina and serbs. Magyars can when they want to leave the misery and the poorty of Serbia to have a better life in a West country like Hungary, while you can remain in Serbia to die for hungry. The only reason because I remain in Transilvania until now is that I consider this a part of Hungary, exactly like I consider Vojvodina a part of Hungary. We gave a bit civilization in Serbia and in Romania, under our Empire and serbs and romanians, now aggress us on the streets. This show your civilization. You two have the same balkan animal spirit, the same balkan lazy and the same ortodox brutality. Come in Budapest to see the difference please. Difference between West and Balkan and you will give me right.

Guest		27-Jun-2007 13:23
Kosovo will never get indipendance Republika Srpska will always be separate half of bosnia or maybe indipendante

Guest		27-Jun-2007 13:21
Bad Gorilla please stop with that childish propaganda, you are funny.. You don't need to spend time to write those things cuz you just make laughter :D Btw Croatians are 90% Serbian Bosniaks are just muslim Serbs I'm I funny?? Its time Croatia faces itself, and to recognise that Croatia got its indipendance on Genocide and ethnic cleansing. Btw albanians are the most undeveloped nation in the Euro-Asia region..

Bad Gorilla		27-Jun-2007 07:34
The fact is that sadly there is a lot of Serbian Chetniks involved in self-denial of reality. First of all, the great problem is that in the Balkans RELIGION is interpreted as ETHNICITY, which is two different concepts in the Western World since the end of the Middle Ages. In a Western sense, ethnicity is more defined by place of origin and language spoken than religion. And that’s the grat problem with Serbia: the RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISM that exists in most of their political-military elite. THERE IS NO SUCH A THING LIKE BOSNIAN SERBS, THERE IS NO SUCH A THING LIKE CROATIAN SERBS. What do exist are ORTHODOX BOSNIANS and ORTHODOX CROATIANS. The separation between “SERB” and “SERBIAN”, as the same way that happens to “CROATIANS” and “CROATS” and “BOSNIANS” and “BOSNIAKS” serves just to incite and keep religious hatred and supremacism. THERE IS NO SUCH A THING LIKE SERBIAN LANGUAGE. THERE IS NO SUCH A THING LIKE CROATIAN LANGUAGE. THERE IS NO SUCH A THING LIKE BOSNIAN LANGUAGE. What do exsit is the plain-old SERBO-CROATIAN language spoken by Serbians, Croatians and Bosnians. The main problem is that Balkans in general and Serbia in particular never entered in contact with the traditions and evolutions of the Western way of thinking and philosophy that generated concepts like toleration, religious liberty, pluralism, secularism and the SEPARATION BETWEEN STATE, GOVERNMENT AND CHURCH. Many Serbian Chetniks think they represent European Civilzation. Yeah, dude, the European Civilization… of MEDIEVAL TIMES! Since then a lot of things happened (from the Fall of Constantinople in 1453 to the French Revolution of 1789). Serbians must look to the present and to the future, and not be locked forever in 1389. This is self-delusion. Mladic, Karadzic, Arkan and Milosevic were not heroes. They were just bandits that wanted to enrich themselves, after all. Arkan, former bank robber, were owner of half Belgrade after the Bosnian War, before he died. SERBIA IS JUST CENTRAL SERBIA AND VOJVODINA, AND NOTHING MORE. Wake up to reality. The so-called Bosnia’s “Republika Srpska” is being dissolved day by day, and Kosovo will be free whether you like it or not — 90% of its population wants independence, and the United States and NATO has a lot of troops and a spectacular military force all over Europe. Russia could veto the independence plan, but if USA recognize Kosovo, Putin can’t do anything, since there is no Russian nor Serbian troops in Kosovo. Open your eyes. Even Serbia’s president Boris Tadic is doing it — he apologized Croatia for the crimes committed by Serbia during Croatian Homeland War. Sincerely I don’t believe all Serbians are evil — there’s a lot of nice people out there, like Natasa Kandic and Cedomir Jovanovic. But the sad thing is that Chetniks still have a lot of guns, money and controls the brain-washing structures (the television and large sectors of the church). It’s time to Serbia face itself, take a deep breath and go in the right MODERN, SECULAR and truly EUROPEAN path.

Guest		27-Jun-2007 02:25
I said before.. not now.. Now the situation is the same.. But better for Ro cuz you are in EU.. You were very very poor, you must admit that.. We were much ahead of you.. Serbian people did not buy anything in RO before 1991 or later, when we had sanctions.. My point was that, things change, and history remembers everithing.. And I was talking to the magyar.. I'm glad that Romania is transforming into a modern and wealthy state.. We lived 5 times better in the eighties than now..

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		27-Jun-2007 02:08
oh,yes,I forgot this part- FUCK UN,FUCK USA,FUCK SLAVERY,FUCK MONEY,FUCK WAR,FUCK POLITICS,FUCK 3RD WORLD ORDHER ......................................................................... BYE

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		27-Jun-2007 02:02
Stefan,Turks were not savages,they were so much civilised,believe me...We are dirty people,not them.Pass through Serbia and you'll see tons of garbage all over it.I think Magyars will always be there to put their small heads into an ass o0f USA and''company''. Nagy,yes we are poor,so what?Does it prove anything?We are better than you in every sport,we know to have a good time much more often and better than you.We are people who know how to live with or without money.Look at Hungarian i.e. Western way of living-Working 6 days for almost 12 hours,no free time,except on Sunday when you go to a bar and spend half of your wages and tommorow work again like an animal.You work for what?For money to be spent on your fine,high-quality clothing? Fuck that and fuck your Budapest.Go there if you like it,and record porno films,that is all you can do.So what,big deal-you have some castles,bridges,blah,blah,same as 90%cities in Europe.Does it make you more valuable than us?Your (wo)men are ugly,they don't shave their armpits,same as women from Germany.Vojvodina is our land,and you and your Austrian friends always joined forces cause we were 2 strong 4 you.Yes and I love orthodoxyit's part of me,and I bet you don't knowbasic differences...But I don't blame your people for pretensions over Vojvodina,but our motherfucking politicians who only steal,steal and do nothing but steal...Fuckers Redi,I agfree this could become a place for normal commentaries. None of you people realizes that thios life is fucking 2 short for this shitting...Why don't we make friendship over the Net,throughout this site for a change.Stop spitting at each other.We all believe that our own country is better than the other's.Please stop with this bullshit and let us functionate like normal (un)civilised people...Stefan stop with nacistic stuf,Vlad don't argue with Nagy,same for Nagy,Seneka you 2,guest stop shitting,the same is for me and if we hold on to these ''rules''we can show that things can go on other,reasonable way...If you don't want that kind of talk,continue with wasting your lives,connect once,twice a week on Net and write the same shit over and over,than go to sleep and innovate new metod of irritating people...If you want to continue with argues I can no longer see reason to post on this site..................................................................... MAYBE 4 the last time- Regards to everyone FUCK NATO<FUCK UN<FUCK USA<FUCK WAR<FUCK POLITICS<FUCK MONEY<FUCK SLAVERY PEOPLE,LOVE EACH OTHER,THAT'S THE ONLY THING IMPORTANT CP6UJA qO TOKUJA KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA ..........................................................

Vlad ROMANIAN		26-Jun-2007 16:26
To Guest: sincerely, I can not understand your wrong considerations about us. But I can guarantee you that we are not in worst conditions than you. Under communim, certainly Fomer Yugoslavia (inclusive Serbia) was in better conditions than us, I remember serbs came until 1989 in Romania for buy, because we were more poor and our prices were low, but now the situations changed very very much. By 1996 to 2000 our country knew a normal economical growth about 2% after 6 years of great recession. And since 2000 to still now we have each year a great economical growth about 6% and in 2004 we arrived also to 8,3%. Our unemployment is very reduced in comparation with many other countries of our zones. Serb medium wage is 300euro, and our is 270euro, but your unemplyment is about 32% and our is 5,5%. In Romania thanks to foreign massive investments expecial in new industry, almost all towns knew a great progress and development. Here in Timisoara we have one of the most modern industrial complexes of the east, with a new technology who harmonized very well the Ford industrial model with New Industry model based on clusters. Pitesti thanks to the reinssance of our national car DACIA, become a modern town, Sibiu, Brasov and Transylvanian towns progress with tourism, networks, clusters and EU's programs for development. We are in EU. Serbia after 1989, if will not have wars, certainly still today can be more developed than us. But in these years Serbia knew two wars and CRIMINAL embargo imposed by West arrogance. We have progressed and our reforms for coming in EU permit us to rise up. So the situation now between Romania and Serbia is balanced. Our towns has hypermarkets, modern shops, new quatiers of new modern houses, so we are not SO POOR like you told. Ceausescu died 17 years ago, if you forgot. I don't offended your country before, and I believe is not reason from you to insult mine. Regards

Guest		26-Jun-2007 00:12
OMG magyar ... History remembers, not so long ago in the eighties.. Serbians went to Hungary with 50 DM and couldn't spend it.. As much they spend it was imposible.. You could buy anything you want and even not spend that 25 Euros.. Not to mention Bulgaria or Romania.. (albania is still like Africa) Our average salary was 1100 Deutsche Mark. Now its 320 Euros.. So remember this .. We had 2 wars and 10 years of economic sanctions and we still can be economicly compared to our neighbours.. Our time will come again, don't worry..

Seneka		25-Jun-2007 17:24
Now i'm uncivilised :)) Well if you think that i'm uncivilised that's your oppinion. But my oppinion is that, you Nagy, are lying. There is poverty in Hungary also, just like in any country. And there are a lot of hungarians in western Europe, Canada and the US. You should do some checking and you'll see that i'm wright. You were an empire only because of the Austrians but that doesn't change the fact that you civilized people treated Romanians in Transilvania like animals. We got our payback in 1920 when the majority decided in a just manner but it seems that you still don't understand this. Stefan, hungarians were enslaved by turks but they recovered much more faster because of the austrians.

Redi Tirana		25-Jun-2007 15:19
Oh yeah, and why is that? Because you say it? Hmm coming from a genius like you i should take it as a fact! Damn i thought i was normal, but no...Thank you, you enlighten me Stefan :P PS : you forgot sieg heil ;)

Guest		25-Jun-2007 12:13
Redi we are discussing the civilised World here, albeit the back end of Europe, but Albania does not even register on the chart, it is on another level of primitiveness.

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		25-Jun-2007 12:10
nah ur the idiot stefan i can tell u one thing that you obviously oblivious to there is no such think as serbo croat they are different languages n if u havnt noticed that your even more stupid then milosevic

Redi Tirana		25-Jun-2007 11:24
Stefan, in your last post you've got the answer about Albania as well. Damn, couldn't you have figured it out by yourself, genius? And yes i will always preach for the black people case because i feel like them, i'm a human being as them even though, culturally speaking, we're different. Anyway, guys, i dont know but i feel good that people from 4 different countries can discuss together in this site. Are you ok for a more civilized discussion without insulting each-other?

Guest		24-Jun-2007 23:35
I don't know what to say in reply to that... Hungarians do have a more civilised history and culture, there is no two ways about it. All I will say is that you weren't enslaved by savage Turks, and that is the only reason why you are "more civilised" than us. Still, I don't see Magyars really doing anything special, you are inferior to all Western Europe, and you suck at all sports bar waterpolo, so nothing really to boast about... SIEG HEIL

Nagy		24-Jun-2007 22:13
ah Ratko, I want remember you that Romanians were in alliance with Germans who wanted to destroy Serbia. Hitler said."Serbien muss stierben" (Serbia must cancelled) and Nazi Romania of Antonescu was his friend. So, before to say that you have good opinion on Vlad ans Seneka, you must know the history

Nagy		24-Jun-2007 21:35
Ratko you prefer Seneka and Vlad because they are ortodox uncivilized people like you. Serbians and Romanians are ortodox and poor. Hungarian Empire, civilized your two lands, and all that is good there is ours. Hungary is a rich country, magyars live good, magyars don't need to emigre in foreign states, magyars have not poorty, we are civilized. Vojvodina is an our province who before to become under serb state was a Paradise. After you come in our Vojvodina, your influences became quickly evident. All in Vojvodina now is a shit. You want to compare Belgrade and Bucharest with our wonderfull Budapest? You really belkieve that you are more civilized than us? ah ah ah ah ah ah a

Guest		24-Jun-2007 18:36
Ej Konjinu "yous are so stupiddddddd" I think we can see who is really stupid, haha you aren't even worthy to talk to me you illiterate piece of shit, you don't speak English or Serbo-Croat so you are ILLITERATE hahaha

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		24-Jun-2007 10:04
stefan n all cedos yous are seriously so stupiddddddddd like really reallyyy badlyyyyyyy lol ive got nothin else to say everything yous say is WRONG and yous sook so much hahahahahhahahahha

Vlad ROMANIAN		24-Jun-2007 09:34
Seneka, don't give attention to the provocations of a stupid boy. We know very well our respective ideas and we are proud of it, the facts give us right and so we are strong because the truth is on our side. Hungarians certainly have a good administrative culture and a good spirit of order thi is sure, but they try in the pèast to submit us and to rule over Central Europe. Many other peoples, inclusive our serb friends of Vojvodina suffered under their domination. For Ratko: Bog cuva srpska zemlija

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		23-Jun-2007 22:08
Nagy,I prefer 10000 times Vlad and Seneka than you...I don't like you,Hungarians,because your Magyar politicians in Serbia stir up hatred towards Serbs...They want independent Vojvodina,to annex it to Hungary...I like better Romanians than you,Magyars.I'm not into Nouadreapta that much,so I won't say anything against or for it...I will research it when I finish with my exams.But I don't like your people Nagy,that's for sure... Stefan,if you feel white race is superior and hate niggers.,than only by that you are on the lower level than them.If they steal,cheat,having guns and you have a desire to kill them then your position is much worse in normal society...I get those things this way-who fucks Western world...They concquered nearly whole world,why shouldn't nowadays be totally different? In 1492.Spain and Portugal killed hundreds of thousands of indians,eventhough these second ones hadn't done anything bad to those countries...I'd get the picture from this that the white man has more wounded and harmed ''coloured men''than opposite... As for the Hitler-yes,he has delivered Germany from a crisis by employing people in war industry and without having started a WWII he would have been the greatest politician of all times... You must know,as I suppose you do,Germany had 2 choices-to be ''given''to communists or fascist...It was not 80 millions who voted Hitler,this number was smaller...He wanted to exterminate them and what have he attained? 6 million Turks in Germany 50 years later...War repair is being paid evry day because of his stupidity...Milosevic was different in every way...you know why...but your countrymen don't,because they watch 2 much BBC and Sky...Simple as that... As for Redi,I think he's pretty normal,which can't be said for his Albanian friends... CP6uJA CP6uMA-CP6uH 3A CP6uHA KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA CP6uJA qO TOKuJA

Seneka		23-Jun-2007 20:12
Nagy, why do you call me a bastard, simply because i love my country and because i don't like hungarians that enslaved us in Ardeal (Erdely) for 1000 years ??? Is it because i don't like to be insulted in another language in my own country by ROMANIAN citizens? Is it because i respect my history and the brave acts of my forefathers? Is it because I'm against the moral degradation that i see around me and i do my best not to betray the principles in witch my parents and my grandparents believed in? PLEASE EXPLAIN PS: The Iron Guard was one of the best and noble things that ever happened in Romania, and nothing can make me change my thoughts on this matter.

Guest		22-Jun-2007 20:00
This is my point you motherfucker, don't you understand anything!! You say I have a better education than them, NO I DON'T!!! I have exactly the same education as them! In my school white people are a minority! How much do I have to tell you until you understand this??? Yeah I must be an idiot, I mean 5 A* and 7 A Grades is the sign of a real imbecile. Those results are from NATIONAL tests, that every single 16 year old must do, called GCSE, so people from the worst school and the most expenisive private school ALL do that test, I know of nobody who can boast of the same grades as me! The difference between your examples of niggers and mine is that you have chosen the 0.001% that have made something of themselves, and are not savages, where as I refer to the overwhelming majority of 99.999% that are as I described. In France niggers are better behaved, because there are stricter laws, what you don't understand therefore is that these are uncivilised and un-developed human beings, they abuse any rights they have, and so that is why France is smart by not granting them so much shit like they do here. Go to the streets of Paris and look for ANY African immigrant, they will ALL tell you that ENGLAND is their FINAL DESTINATION! People die on their way here, because the reward afterwards is worth them risking their lives. They can live like Kings here, all at the expense of myself and other good and honest civilised Europeans. You are talking shit and you know it, although I can't blame you for sticking up for your corner, I mean Albanians are the same as niggers and Pakis so of course everybody loves their own. SIEG HEIL

Vlad ROMANIAN		22-Jun-2007 18:23
Nagy you are really boring, very veyr boring. try to post something serious comment instead to repeat already the same things.

Guest		22-Jun-2007 12:03
Tirana you should read comment of your fellow albanians first. Belgrade doesn't want any albanian, you come with a albanian woomen and you mate like animals, with 15 children than in 10 years you will say Belgrade is albanian.. Stick to Kosovo :D We should make a wall :D

Redi Tirana		22-Jun-2007 11:00
Stefan, you're an idiot because i didn't say that you were rich but that you certainly had a better education than them. Being white makes things easier for you. Oh yes the affirmative action...it touches only an infime category of them though. And i dont care if you dont anwser anymore to me, because you comments are so poor. You give me exemples of your life and you generalize them. So idiot (if you're the top student then others must be really stupid). Dont think that i dont know them because i live in Paris (or better banlieue Seine-Saint-Denis 93) and you surely know what happened here in november 2005. And i'm also sure that WHITE serbian people do the same in the suburbs of Belgrade. So stop your shitty comments (oh they want to steal my cellphone, they hate me, they are not good at school). Kofi Annan is black and maybe the next US president is gonna be black (Rice or Barak Obama). Are you superior to them? Here i'm doing the same thing that you do : i'm taking individual exemples and i am generalizing them. And i didnt give you my name because i firstly signed as Tirana and i thought that people would remember me like that. It's none of the names that you typed : for your information my name is Redi, so shut up your mouth. Finally i'm happy that the majority of serbians is not like you. I know some of them in Paris and i have known others in Montenegro. They were all gentle and simple people. I dont hate serbians, i just hate you as i may hate some albanians. You know, nationality is not important to me, personality is. Guest, you werent there in the beginning and i didnt come here to insult someone or whatever. I just wanted to look at some pictures of Belgrade because i wanted (i always do) to visit it and i just asked for some information. Fortunately some good guys were in here (Alex Belgrade) but not anymore. I feel so bad for all of you (dont take it as an insult)

Guest		21-Jun-2007 18:50
this is exactly why i did not reveal my age before, because i knew people would not take me seriously, you can take your crap and shove it up your ass. Only reason you are being aggressed is because you are causing problems like Albanians in Serbia, trying to gain autonomy for what is not yours. You may have had transilvania once during Austro-Hungarian Empire, but it is not yours, I am sure if you were peaceful and just considered yourselves citizens of Romania then such aggression would not exist, because there would be no reason for it to take place.

Guest		21-Jun-2007 15:44
Cumon nagy you stuped magyar what the fuck are you doing in this gallery, the same question for albanian emigrants ?

Nagy		21-Jun-2007 15:22
Stefan, I understand you because you are only 17. But I remember you again to leave Vlad and his criminal ideology. His party Nouadreapta here in Romania committed aggressions against etnical minority, and democratic party. For know better that bastard Vlad you must know also his political area. I explain you what is Nouadreapta. Nouadreapta was founded by groups of young romanian neonazis. Their doctrine ispire to Iron Guard and pratic a populist propaganda based on violence and xenophobie. They organize often violent operation when they show all their cowardy, aggressing hungarians, jews, and democratics, with mask. Romanian police support them for the non-legal operations. In their commemorations they are all in green uniform, who is the same of Iron Guard. They love to make hate between peoples and their aim is to destroy the little tollereance who born 16 years ago. They love to do wash-brain to romanian teens, expecially students. Nouadreapta proclamed itseld Christian, but it real doctrine is only racism and xenophobia. They are a group of cowards who can be strong only when they are together in groups. They aggress in group against only a boy. 5 against 1 for example. This is cowardy! Therefore listen to me. Listen also Ratko who certainly know how Vlad is a Nazi bastard. So become mature, free your mind.

Nagy		21-Jun-2007 15:06
Stefan, only a little kid without sense and mind, Vlad: a bastard Nazi full of fantatism and idiot ideology Ratko: a confused boy Seneka: more moderate and mature than Vlad, but is however a romanian nazi bastard

Guest		21-Jun-2007 14:39
Ratko, That is the easy answer, the media wants you to think that, Hitler was an idiot bla bla bla, and why is that? Because he made Germany a great nation from a pile of ash? Because he made it a Superpower from the midst of depression? Because he made all Germans' lives better IN GERMANY, their own country, by getting rid of the Jews and cunts which exploited them during their time of despair and depression? He destroyed the unemployment that plagued people's lives in his nation? Because he got the support of every German and the entire country loved him? Wow he must have been an idiot, I guess 80 million people were just silly and naive, he must have tricked them somehow right? lol Here dude, people say the same thing about Milosevic that they do about Hitler, even worse in some cases, so just don't believe everything you hear man. The Jews, gays and gypsies deserved to die, and they still do today, think about how much better Serbia would be without cigani, how much nicer and cleaner it would be. I know this is a poor example because they aren't such a problem as niggers and other inferiors are here, but still it is all I can compare them to. In any case, people are starting to wake up here, particularly MY generation who have suffered the bullshit of these inferior races. Fascism is growing, and as the situation becomes worse, more and more people will lose interest in being nice and accomodating anymore, and one day a race war will break out and society will be cleansed.

Guest		21-Jun-2007 14:29
That is where you are wrong Tirana, haha why don't you put your name are you ashamed, I bet it is something like ILIR or ARTIM or BLERIM or HASAN ahahaha! Blacks do not grow up with less opportunities, if anything they have fucking more!! They have soooooo many schemes set up to just get them to pass at least 2 out of 11 subjects. Don't you understand that slavery is over, and that here in England, the Government literally destroys the lives of those good hard-working white European citizens to accomodate these savage un-evolved people. I am trying to explain this in as little time as possible, because I can go on for days I swear to God, explaining how everything is and why it is like that. Basically, these people are not formed, or evolved, to the same level as white European people. They are simply inferior, there is no two ways about it. I am one of the poorest people in my school (a rough outer city State school), and yet I am the top student, why is that? I live in conditions you can't understand. I have NOTHING of my own, do you understand that? I own no property, I rent my two rooms from a Paki, who has cheated the system and built up an empire of real estate as a result. I share my damn house with some fucking refugee illiterate cunts who live upstairs, ok we have seperate bathrooms and bedrooms of course, but it is still the same house. At least once a month I have a fight on my way home from school, because some cocky gorilla nigga wants to jack my phone. It is blacks every single time, or Pakis, never ever ever been somebody white, ever. These niggers come over from fucking Somalia or whatever, have 10 kids, similar to you Albanians, then get free housing with priority over people like me because I come from a civilised background with two children. So they get a fucking house free from the council, they get enormous benefits from the Government because of their 10+ children, and they are laughing. They are WILD people, they go on the bus and clip their toenails and spit as if it is the jungle. EDUCATION IS FREE HERE, do you understand that? That means that everybody has the right to education, up to 16 years of age, where they can leave and get a job or stay on at college then university. In my school, in the top classes for ANY SUBJECT, there are ZERO niggers. There are minimal Arabs, and few Pakis. In the bottom set there is not ONE white person, it is literally a joke. Why are these people so stupid? Because they are poor? I am poor motherfucker but look at me, I get straight As without even trying it is fun for me. But no, it is not that they are discriminated against, rather THEY CHOOSE to be gang members and petty criminals over being ordinary and civilised members of society. There are sooooooooooooo many organisations made for them, they take niggers to visit Oxford University, give them prizes for getting 1/2 the grades a white person does, there are even scholarships specifically for NIGGERS, because they need to increase the numbers so they can try and show the public that the gap is not noticable and that everybody is equal. You live in the West, I cannot believe you don't know this. Seriously dude maybe where you live there aren't niggers, but come here please I beg you, and ride the bus or train past 10pm for a couple of nights and see if nothing happens you ignorant cunt. The problem is genetic, millions of studies have been conducted and so many things have been given to niggers to BEG them to be better, but they can't, it is in their blood, they are inferior race and that is the end of it. Here if a nigger calls someone a WHITE PUSSY or cracker or something, nothing is done, but if you call them NIGGERS then it is a serious thing and when they get a mob to come and murder you, the purportraitors will get shit all because it was your fucking fault. If a nigger is robbing your house and you catch him and do any physical damage to him, you can be imprisoned for assault and he will get away laughing. The extent of the inequality in favour of the niggers is enormous, so don't you dare tell me this and that about how things are when you have no idea! Like I said before, I don't talk about what I don't know about, so shut your mouth! But of course you are a shiptar so it is in your blood to bark about things which do not concern you and of which you have no knowledge, so as of now I will no longer respond to your idiotic comments unless I can be bothered, because it is wasting my time and energy. SIEG HEIL

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		21-Jun-2007 13:19
Hrvatski viteze,mama ti je cunt,jesi cuo?Gorece te svi vi ustase na lomaci,za sve ono sto ste nam uradili...Jebacemo vam majke Nacism is shit,so shut the fuck up,every ideology,i.e.''way of religion'' except Christianity is shit....You're so fucked up,Hitler was a motherfucker and so will you be as long as you admire his monstrousity...I don't have nothing against blacks,Araps,Chinese and so on as long as they stay in their own countries....That's all....

Tirana		21-Jun-2007 12:06
Stefan, you're saying nothing new and you're showing nothing. So what that these people are uncivilized? Do you mean that you were born civilized? No man, it's your family, education and people around you that made you the person that you are today. Those people didn't have your chance. They have grown up in poverty, in a discriminating ambient and no one helps them. Exterminating a race that hasn't had your chances is the easiest thing. When faced to two solutions, the easiest (pro nazi ideals) and hardest (helping them to become like you), you choose the first one. You surrender before fighting. Worse, you don't even want to fight. What a selfish person you are! I wish you were black... And nazism would not have worked because there was no end. Would the Jews be sufficient? All black people? And then what, asians? Europeans (french, spanish, british and even italians oh yes their "allies"). Hitler hated them all and the more he killed the more he would want to kill. Hitler thought he was God. Do you Stefan? Vlad, i don't care if my provocative (sic!) comments bother you. Yours bother me the same way, if not worse, but i dont react like you. Are we loosing patience there, christian?

Guest		21-Jun-2007 10:39
Yes it is a little confusing even for me, because on the one hand Nazis killed my Grandfather's Brother and my Great Granfather in the Second World War and it is a sad topic because at the end of the day they were just defending their motherland. Yet on the other hand, and this is far more important, I can see that the Nazis were right! That the World would be a far better place today if they had succeeded, and it wouldn't have required the loss of 1 MILLION of MY Brothers and Sisters! Serbs lost 1/9 of their entire population in the Second World War, and look where all that sacrifice has got us today.... one of the poorest and most hated countries in Europe. The World is against us, the very people who owe their freedom to us (partly to Serbs, more to Russians) are fucking us today. So fuck them, look at Croatia, the worst Nazi State in the World, now it is prospering getting EU Membership soon. The West who owe their freedom to us, sided with USTASA Croatia and bombed Serbia to pieces, put embargo on us, and made us out like the worst criminals in history, when NONE of it is true. So look at it that way, did we deserve to lose 1 million people for an ideology that the World wanted to fail, for a state the World wanted to destroy, for a freedom that is worse than being under Hitler? And it's bollocks about how Hitler hates Slavs and whatever, because if that is so then why did he form alliances with Croats, Slovenes and Bulgarians?? Oh sorry I forgot, you bastard Croats think you are something different, and that you aren't Slavs from the BALKANS. You idiots are just like Albanians, claiming you are something you are not. Nagy, no Vlad has not influenced me in any way about Fascism, rather I have looked at all perspectives and made my own mind up on the issue. I live in the UK, in London, where up to half the residents are inferior races, so I don't need to comment anymore on the issue as this speaks for itself. Rather I would like to show you how these people act and why they are inferior: Watch until the end: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y9-vQocemc Let me show you how brave and strong police in England are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkG6GfwZSWA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1pvxF5TwZw I have countless videos, hopefully they will make you laugh by how uncivilised these people are, it's not just isolated cases, just so you know... SIEG HEIL

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		21-Jun-2007 09:43
stefan how long ago was it when u were cursing nazi n bla bla bla now ur one of em ... you are a deeply confused kid that has been lied to for far to long by ur own narod... stupid serbs so so confused... young cunt neznas nista

Nagy		20-Jun-2007 21:22
Vlad, you can't have idea how I hate you.....when you post your bestial comments I want to close my computer for ever. Stefan, come on baby you are only 17, your real problem is Vlad. You are only a little adolescent and that Nazi Bastard of Vlad sell you the illusion that his criminal ideology is the only way for a better world. Don't hear him! I live in Romania and I know very well romanians. They are the worst Nazi's criminals of East. History show it. Vlad is a typical romanian who hate other people. They are all the same. They are like croatians, very closed in their demagogy. In 1990 in Kolozsvar and Marosvasarhèly two great towns of Transilvanya, they killed 16 our brothers who had only the fault to be magyars. Vlad is not a good person. Listen to me! I know romanians like him, they are without respect for human dignity and consider themselves the best race. They hate also you serbs. Because they hate every body who not appartain to their bastard race. Come here in Romania. You will see by yourself how they hate you.

Guest		20-Jun-2007 15:34
Gays must be exterminated, there is no two ways about it. Jews are an awful race of selfish and greedy people, Hitler hated Jews because in Germany during the Depression after the Wall Street Crash Germans lived like gypsies. They could barely afford bread, and meanwhile fucking Jews were in their mansions eating meat and laughing at the Germans suffering below them. Germans in their own country were being exploited by the bastard Jews who owned every single company at the time. Jews were the ones who forced Germany's surrender in the first World War and the consequent signing of the Treaty of Versailles which was totally unfair to Germans and was only aimed to damage their pride. Everybody looks at Nazism because of the Holocaust, this is not the only product of Nazism, Germany was TRANSFORMED in a matter of a few years unemployment fell from 6 million to 100,000. Tell me any Government in recent times which has acheived such a thing! Fascism is a beautiful concept, and it is the only way to clean Europe of its blemishes which tarnish society, particularly BRITAIN'S. I don't know everything, but what i don't know about I don't talk about.

Vlad ROMANIAN		20-Jun-2007 14:36
Tirana your provocative comments start to become too much. Is time to finish. You are not able to comment political ideologies and to exprime opinion about politcal choices of the others.

Tirana		20-Jun-2007 10:18
Lol...i'm sorry mr. the most intelligent human being since einstein you dont know how to read a comment (what are you studying, drawing?). When i talked about members of your family i didn't mean that they had any mental problems but i asked you what would you do if any of them HAD a mental disease, let's say your brother or sister for ex. (so try to be more mature with your comments my little idiot) what if any of them was gay? And how can you explain the unproductive thing about jews? :) Why killing them?

Guest		19-Jun-2007 13:40
and that's bullshit about old people who the fuck told you that? So in Neo-Nazism all pensioners are killed? Give me a break fool Sick people are treated, only people with long-term paniful terminal illnesses are put to rest through euthanasia because their lives are costly, painful and not worth living. People in the Britain FLOCK to the Netherlands to put an end to their lives by euthanasia because it is so bad for them. You don't even deserve to talk to me, you don't know what you're talking about so why bother?

Guest		19-Jun-2007 13:36
Members of my family? You're an idiot, just because your family has high levels of downsyndrome and other mental disorders it doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Tirana		19-Jun-2007 09:29
Yes but you forget something. In their philosophy not only inferior races should disappear but also sick people and old ones, in a word unproductive people in general. Are you ready to sacrify members of your family?

Guest		18-Jun-2007 22:22
Communism is a great idea and I love its ideology but unfortunately as long as such inferior races plague society it is an ideal which can never be acheived, so once the scum is cleared, then Communism can be built over a period of centuries. First, society must be civilised and free of primitive and disfunctional people as Pakis and Arabs and Niggers etc. SO SIEG HEIL ALL DAY EVERY DAY

Tirana		18-Jun-2007 13:33
Stefan, Sieg Heil...a communist saying that...loool

Guest		17-Jun-2007 22:56
I'm not gonna explain myself all over again... in any case I am not very religious and I was actually born here and my Mother is 1/4 English so OK if you want to call me an immigrant in my own country then that shows your intelligence. Sieg Heil

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		17-Jun-2007 19:18
Nagy,maybe that is so,but our faith is much more reasonable than yours.I'm assured that you don't know a difference.Just shut up,drink shitty coca-cola and eat shitty food from McDonald's and kiss your loving Blair and Bush in asses,every time they start shitting about peace on Earth and ''problematic''Serbs. We haven't had inquisition,Crusade wars and killing''in the name of faith''.The reason why are you rich is that you have been exploating world for centuries.You have been killing innocent Indians,African tribes and Asian people.You contaminate the world with your useless nuclear testings and plants.You were-are capable to kill a man in his own country,just because you think you are more valuable than he is,because you have a noble queen/king who has a power to conquest half of the world,and so on...But,you are assholes,like Shiptars...Fuck you and your money...everything that the world inherited from you,Western world,is plastic food,killing,demagoguery,homosexuality and dozens of perverted things you are proud of....... ''pacifists''...yeah,right... LONG LIVE SERBIA AND ORTHODOXY CP6UJA qO TOKUJA

Nagy		17-Jun-2007 09:22
which kind of life is yours Stefan Serb? You said that you work in Great Britain, and now we see that you study. You said before that you are 26 and now we know you are 17. What are you doing in England? You are the typical balkanik immigran who ask for money on streets or you live in Serbia? Orthodox countries are all poor and uncivilized

Guest		16-Jun-2007 10:31
My Summer holiday has started, man I got so wasted yesterday I ended up in some random girl's house who I don't even know hahaha. It was some massive party to celebrate the end of exams, so I'm wishing you all a good Summer, I know I will have one :D POzdrav Sieg Heil

Guest		15-Jun-2007 08:09
To 'all' of you on this page, 'get a life people', that does not involve a computer!

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		14-Jun-2007 19:38
Fucking Albanians,stealing watches of 50 dollars to pay whores in your villages.Fuck you,KOSOVO IS SERBIA Hey,due toquestionnaires only 3 % of Albanians would make war and 40% is for independence...It's for the people in Albania,not Kosovo...Ha ha ha pussies,as I always claimed,you are big pussies...stinky cowards,you are kissing Bush on TV,just to show him your ''friendship''with his nation,and to gain military help... Yeah KOSOVO is Albania as much as your women are not whores.If you had a chance to learn mathematics in elementary you'd known that the result is near 00,00 LOL at your ''big and traditionalistic''country KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA SERBS FUCK ALBANIANS IN EVERY HOLE CP6UJA qO TOKUJA regards to Stefan,guest,Vlad and Seneka and everyone who is on our side,who loves truth,honesty and bravery...For new Christian victories,long live orthodoxy!!!!!!!

Vlad ROMANIAN		14-Jun-2007 15:03
to Tirana: I am very proud of my ideals and I don't see contraddictions in them. We right radicals fight for a better moral society based on honestly, patriottism and christianity. I don't see what is wrong on it. I hate gypsy yes. This is not a crime! Is only my sincer sentiment and the general sentiment of my people. For a better society we must repress gypsy. Therefore I am not in contraddiction.

Tirana		14-Jun-2007 13:28
So Stefan is George Bush? :P

Guest		14-Jun-2007 13:07
Stefan this albanian is lookin' at your watch! :D They stole a WATCH from the president of USA!! LOOOOOL Kosovo is not a watch!!!!!!!!!!

Tirana		14-Jun-2007 11:44
Photographs showed Bush, surrounded by five bodyguards, putting his hands behind his back so one of the bodyguards could remove his watch.

Tirana		14-Jun-2007 11:36
It's not true idiot...i have always told you that you see what you want to see! :p A bodyguard took it...take a look ww.reuters.com/news/video/videoStory?videoId=56515

Guest		13-Jun-2007 20:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SPCFAPpNKY HAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAA OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! I AM GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!! I DONT NEED TO SAY ANYTHING MORE HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA OH MY FUCKING GOD, GOD HELP YOU ALBANIANS GOD HAS SAID GOODNIGHT TO YOU OMG!!!!!! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA OH JESUS CHRIST i CAN NEVER EVER TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA LONG LIVE ALBANIAN WATCH THEIVES HAHAHHAHAAHHA IF I WAS TO MEET THE MAN WHO TOOK IT I WOULD SHAKE HIS HAND, BUT NOT AFTER TAKING MY WATCH OFF FIRST HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest		13-Jun-2007 14:01
In Kosovo lives an albanian family with 18 children, and its not special by that common number of kids in albanian enviroment. Its special cuz they gave one kid name "TONIBLER" :D:D:D:D I cant remember the last name.. Guest 12-Jun-2007 23:48 Kosovo&Metohija will never be indipendent you know it :) It will have some degree of indipendance or hifh autonomy, but IT WILL NOT be the thing you dream of!! :D :D You know it very good! And in 10-15 years Serbian soldier/customs official/ tax collector will come back :D But dont be sad, we will all be in Eu than, so you could go freely into Albania or any other surounding countries!! Guest 12-Jun-2007 23:45 "KOSOVA" I sugest you read my posts from the previous day.. anyway you are muslim and you are the same race as Arabs and Turks and you even look like them, a mix of poor gipsies and araboturks.. Therefor you cannot be Jews.. Jews hate you muslims.. araboalbanian even more.. And albanian race has no scientist/actor/sportsman but they are sure good AT STILING PRESIDENTIAL WATCHES !!!

Guest		13-Jun-2007 11:21
Wow Kosova is going to be amazing with such intellectuals such as yourself driving the new country on the path to success. We will see, in 10 years where Kosovo is, if you Shiptari surprise me and make it a successful country as Croatia and Slovenia have become since they left Yugoslavia, then I will respect your decision to become independent, because you know you can do better on your own. But I would bet a lot of money that Kosovo will be as shit now, if not 10 times worse, in 10/15 years time. So you will have SPREAD YOUR MISERY successfully and I will have the same amount of respect for you now then... which is none. I just got my dunk on after exams I had basketball training and I hit my first dunk on full size hoop. ZIVEO STEFAN hahaha joking :P Pozdrav svima (Srbi)

K O S O V A		13-Jun-2007 03:46
to serbs and serbromanian people KOSOVA is a Albanian Land and it was since human evulation began on earth i dont understand you filthy serbs from romania and serbia you should worry now for Vojvodina you all know well Vojvodina soon will ask for indepedence than later PRESHEVA and BUJANOVAC than NOVI PAZAR with sanjak etc serbia will be like smallest nokia and this is happend now to serbia this is a facts we all know it did serbs deserv that? yes they did deserve that because they were saying VELIKA SERBIA where is your fucking velika serbia now i am asking this question to serbs gypsy race i am waiting for reply!!!!!!! KOSOVA ISRAEL FOR FUCKING FILTHY SLAVS ISRAEL FOR FUCKING FILTHY ARABS NOW VELIKA ALBANIA zemo thanks to americans we albanians we are going to destroy more and more serbia to the last pice of land they have we will fuck serb nation even the world will fill sorry for serbs what are we going to do to serbs about romanian i dont hate romanian people of course serbromanian and romanian gypsy i fucking hate we albanian never we had bad relation with romanian people in balkan even in diaspora we are the best friend we look after each other who ever talk on behalf of romanian people he is either gypsy or serbromanian from banat all serb women are welcome to GREAT ALBANIA to work as a cleaners to wash our toilets death to serb people I LOVE USA I LOVE KOSOVA I LOVE UNITED ALBANIA LONG LIVE ALBANIAN PEOPLE SUPERIOR RACE IN BALKAN PROUD TO BE ILLYRIAN FUCK SLAVIC SERBS

K O S O V A		13-Jun-2007 03:45
to serbs and serbromanian people KOSOVA is a Albanian Land and it was since human evulation began on earth i dont understand you filthy serbs from romania and serbia you should worry now for Vojvodina you all know well Vojvodina soon will ask for indepedence than later PRESHEVA and BUJANOVAC than NOVI PAZAR with sanjak etc serbia will be like smallest nokia and this is happend now to serbia this is a facts we all know it did serbs deserv that? yes they did deserve that because they were saying VELIKA SERBIA where is your fucking velika serbia now i am asking this question to serbs gypsy race i am waiting for reply!!!!!!! KOSOVA ISRAEL FOR FUCKING FILTHY SLAVS ISRAEL FOR FUCKING FILTHY ARABS NOW VELIKA ALBANIA zemo thanks to americans we albanians we are going to destroy more and more serbia to the last pice of land they have we will fuck serb nation even the world will fill sorry for serbs what are we going to do to serbs about romanian i dont hate romanian people of course serbromanian and romanian gypsy i fucking hate we albanian never we had bad relation with romanian people in balkan even in diaspora we are the best friend we look after each other who ever talk on behalf of romanian people he is either gypsy or serbromanian from banat all serb women are welcome to GREAT ALBANIA to work as a cleaners to wash our toilets death to serb people I LOVE USA I LOVE KOSOVA I LOVE UNITED ALBANIA LONG LIVE ALBANIAN PEOPLE SUPERIOR RACE IN BALKAN PROUD TO BE ILLYRIAN FUCK SLAVIC SERBS

K O S O V A		13-Jun-2007 03:44
to serbs and serbromanian people KOSOVA is a Albanian Land and it was since human evulation began on earth i dont understand you filthy serbs from romania and serbia you should worry now for Vojvodina you all know well Vojvodina soon will ask for indepedence than later PRESHEVA and BUJANOVAC than NOVI PAZAR with sanjak etc serbia will be like smallest nokia and this is happend now to serbia this is a facts we all know it did serbs deserv that? yes they did deserve that because they were saying VELIKA SERBIA where is your fucking velika serbia now i am asking this question to serbs gypsy race i am waiting for reply!!!!!!! KOSOVA ISRAEL FOR FUCKING FILTHY SLAVS ISRAEL FOR FUCKING FILTHY ARABS NOW VELIKA ALBANIA zemo thanks to americans we albanians we are going to destroy more and more serbia to the last pice of land they have we will fuck serb nation even the world will fill sorry for serbs what are we going to do to serbs about romanian i dont hate romanian people of course serbromanian and romanian gypsy i fucking hate we albanian never we had bad relation with romanian people in balkan even in diaspora we are the best friend we look after each other who ever talk on behalf of romanian people he is either gypsy or serbromanian from banat all serb women are welcome to GREAT ALBANIA to work as a cleaners to wash our toilets death to serb people I LOVE USA I LOVE KOSOVA I LOVE UNITED ALBANIA LONG LIVE ALBANIAN PEOPLE SUPERIOR RACE IN BALKAN PROUD TO BE ILLYRIAN FUCK SLAVIC SERBS

K O S O V A		13-Jun-2007 03:44
to serbs and serbromanian people KOSOVA is a Albanian Land and it was since human evulation began on earth i dont understand you filthy serbs from romania and serbia you should worry now for Vojvodina you all know well Vojvodina soon will ask for indepedence than later PRESHEVA and BUJANOVAC than NOVI PAZAR with sanjak etc serbia will be like smallest nokia and this is happend now to serbia this is a facts we all know it did serbs deserv that? yes they did deserve that because they were saying VELIKA SERBIA where is your fucking velika serbia now i am asking this question to serbs gypsy race i am waiting for reply!!!!!!! KOSOVA ISRAEL FOR FUCKING FILTHY SLAVS ISRAEL FOR FUCKING FILTHY ARABS NOW VELIKA ALBANIA zemo thanks to americans we albanians we are going to destroy more and more serbia to the last pice of land they have we will fuck serb nation even the world will fill sorry for serbs what are we going to do to serbs about romanian i dont hate romanian people of course serbromanian and romanian gypsy i fucking hate we albanian never we had bad relation with romanian people in balkan even in diaspora we are the best friend we look after each other who ever talk on behalf of romanian people he is either gypsy or serbromanian from banat all serb women are welcome to GREAT ALBANIA to work as a cleaners to wash our toilets death to serb people I LOVE USA I LOVE KOSOVA I LOVE UNITED ALBANIA LONG LIVE ALBANIAN PEOPLE SUPERIOR RACE IN BALKAN PROUD TO BE ILLYRIAN FUCK SLAVIC SERBS

Guest		13-Jun-2007 02:30
In Kosovo lives an albanian family with 18 children, and its not special by that common number of kids in albanian enviroment. Its special cuz they gave one kid name "TONIBLER" :D:D:D:D I cant remember the last name..

Guest		12-Jun-2007 23:48
Kosovo&Metohija will never be indipendent you know it :) It will have some degree of indipendance or hifh autonomy, but IT WILL NOT be the thing you dream of!! :D :D You know it very good! And in 10-15 years Serbian soldier/customs official/ tax collector will come back :D But dont be sad, we will all be in Eu than, so you could go freely into Albania or any other surounding countries!!

Guest		12-Jun-2007 23:45
"KOSOVA" I sugest you read my posts from the previous day.. anyway you are muslim and you are the same race as Arabs and Turks and you even look like them, a mix of poor gipsies and araboturks.. Therefor you cannot be Jews.. Jews hate you muslims.. araboalbanian even more.. And albanian race has no scientist/actor/sportsman but they are sure good AT STILING PRESIDENTIAL WATCHES !!!

K O S O V A		12-Jun-2007 21:51
to serbs and serbromanian people KOSOVA is a Albanian Land and it was since human evulation began on earth i dont understand you filthy serbs from romania and serbia you should worry now for Vojvodina you all know well Vojvodina soon will ask for indepedence than later PRESHEVA and BUJANOVAC than NOVI PAZAR with sanjak etc serbia will be like smallest nokia and this is happend now to serbia this is a facts we all know it did serbs deserv that? yes they did deserve that because they were saying VELIKA SERBIA where is your fucking velika serbia now i am asking this question to serbs gypsy race i am waiting for reply!!!!!!! KOSOVA ISRAEL FOR FUCKING FILTHY SLAVS ISRAEL FOR FUCKING FILTHY ARABS NOW VELIKA ALBANIA zemo thanks to americans we albanians we are going to destroy more and more serbia to the last pice of land they have we will fuck serb nation even the world will fill sorry for serbs what are we going to do to serbs about romanian i dont hate romanian people of course serbromanian and romanian gypsy i fucking hate we albanian never we had bad relation with romanian people in balkan even in diaspora we are the best friend we look after each other who ever talk on behalf of romanian people he is either gypsy or serbromanian from banat all serb women are welcome to GREAT ALBANIA to work as a cleaners to wash our toilets death to serb people I LOVE USA I LOVE KOSOVA I LOVE UNITED ALBANIA LONG LIVE ALBANIAN PEOPLE SUPERIOR RACE IN BALKAN PROUD TO BE ILLYRIAN FUCK SLAVIC SERBS

Seneka		12-Jun-2007 20:39
Sorry for the second message, i wasn't trying to spam, but when i refreshed the browser it sent it again...

Seneka		12-Jun-2007 20:37
OMG, i cannot belive it. I hear on the news today that albanians stole Bush's watch when he paid you visit. You guys are the shame of Europe. You should be deported to Madagascar alongside with all the gipsys in the world..

Guest		12-Jun-2007 20:37
Why ruin Madagascar??? Madagascar is a real paradise with rare animals..

Seneka		12-Jun-2007 20:16
OMG, i cannot belive it. I hear on the news today that albanians stole Bush's watch when he paid you visit. You guys are the shame of Europe. You should be deported to Madagascar alongside with all the gipsys in the world..

Guest		12-Jun-2007 14:57
You and ilirians have very little in common (you live on the same land-albania), but as you say, you are on these lands before us, maybe in albania but not in Kosovo! You should read some historical evidence, and where Serbs first settled and what they found there, all that data was wrote by Greek or roman historians .. Im a Serb from Serbia, and I dont care for stefan etc. and I didnt address him, I addressed you emigrant.. As for watch its not important its just so funny :) the important thing is that the whole Tirana village is in bushs pics and american flags, very low and very inferior.. As for Kosovo, its likely to become indipendent, but Serbia with any kind of goverment will never declare indipendance of Kosovo, and you know how Serbia has been doing in history, we said NO many times to large Empires and countries, and we are not afraid of war, or of poverty/negativity when our dignity is in sake..

Tirana		12-Jun-2007 12:56
Yes i thought the same thing about the watch at the beginning, but later some medias showed videos that it was a Bush's bodyguard who took it. And you can see G. Bush with the same watch when he leaves Albania. So i'm sorry for you, but you were still wrong! ;)

Tirana		12-Jun-2007 12:52
Stefan let's see who's the idiot! You say that you know what's right and wrong, as if there were a totally objective truth. Your "right" might be my "wrong" and vice-versa. So your right and wrong are also biased from your wishes, from your convictions who are inspired by the thought that everything that goes against Serbia is wrong. That's why for me you are a nationalist. Let's hope your IQ will be sufficient for understanding this. Guest, since when people who have many children are not the same with those who have fewer? It's called a different culture and not different people! And you call me an immigrant. Ok, what should we say about Stefan? ;) I'm doing my studies abroad as many other Serbians, but according to you i am still the odd one out. Think more carefully next time, please. As for the historical argument...no need for comment...you know where you come from and so do we, but in each case we were there before you! That doesn't make us better thus. Best regards to both of you

Guest		12-Jun-2007 12:51
A VIDEO CONFIRMS THAT, HE GETS INTO THE CROWD WITH THE WATCH AND WHAN HE LEAVES NO WATCH LOLOLOL

Guest		12-Jun-2007 12:50
LOL LOL LOL LOL ::: ALBANIANS STOLE BUSH's HAND WATCH WHEN HE WENT TO GREET THE CROWD IN SOME ALBANIAN VILLAGE !!!! looooooooooooolooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Guest		12-Jun-2007 11:56
No we are not the same.. You just wish.. You are a stupid albanian imigrant, whos county is so poor that without any wars sanctions etc. cant manage 15 years to come out of severe poverty.. Kosovo is not albanian, and albanians live there becouse they mated like animals in the past 50-100 years, it will sound bad, for a foreigner what I said, but its litteraly that way.. ALBANIANS MATE LIKE ANIMALS, one family has up to 15 children and its common, very common.. I havent heard that any Kosovo albanian family has under 4 children.. Just see how many albanians lived in Kosovo in the early 19th and 20th century! As for president Bush, hes not the ruler of the world, yes he controls the strongest country in the world, but the Marti Ahtisari proposal will need to pass the UN SECURITY COUNSIL in witch Russia has VETO.. And president Putin said no indipendance! Its funny how you albanians welcomed Bush, you took your pants down and turned around so he can fuck you better :D ... In every single country he goes massive demonstrations, Italy/Germany etc.. Albanians welcome Bush with gigant pictures and american flags, and he was there only 8 hours :) I saw pictures of Tirana, its so dirty and nasty, tipicly albanian, no wonder many of you are escaping into neighbour countries, Greece, Macedonia, Serbia (Kosovo).. Serbia (Yougoslavia) was the richest in the past, thats why so many of dirty albanians live in Kosovo and south of Nis. And once and for all : ALBANIANS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ILIRIANS, YOU ONLY WISH THAT THEY ARE YOUR ANCESTORS BECOUSE OF POOR HISTORY HERETAGE !! YOU CAN CALL YOURSELVES TIBETAN IF YOU WISH... I dont know why albanians call Kosovo "kosova", even americans call it Kosovo, a name witch came from the old slavic word "KOS". As for albania being "Israel" Thats the thing I laugft most about :) First israelis are jew and they hate muslim scum like you (one thing in common with us) Second they are D.E.V.E.L.O.P.E.D witch albania will never be. Third, they are smart, albanians is just good in kissing asses... I dont fancy Fidel Kastro, but he said a smart thing for Bushes visit in Tirana: "Tyrant in Tirana"

Guest		12-Jun-2007 10:26
Ratko, Kako si, sta ima novo u BGu? Nisam tamo bio za skoro godinu dana, ali uskoro cu doci za mesec dana. Nadam se da si zdrav i da sve je uredu. Pozdrav

Guest		12-Jun-2007 10:19
Genti, you're knowledge is so low I will not even dignify your crap with a response, we are discussing far deeper things than you have just brought up ok. Enjoy your shitty 'Kosova' while it lasts and don't talk to me, you aren't worthy. Tirana, You are an idiot, read my shit I am no nationalist, I just know what is right and what is wrong. Sieg Heil

Tirana		12-Jun-2007 09:43
Time has passed but posts have remained the same...because people haven't changed! Stefan the nationalist and anti-albanian, pro-romanian from the time Vlad supports you (Do you remember the insults that you two exchanged before i got in this forum for the first time?). What an hypocrite... Vlad and his SUPERIOR race. Are you really christian or only a part-time one? If you hate gypsies, you don't give a f*uck about the Bible (you know what's writen in there). So make a choice, you are a christian or a nazi (as they are mutually exclusive)! And finally the angry Albanian! I know you have suffered my friend but you must go on now (no need to insult them)...Patience, Kosovo will be independent! I persist and sign : we are ALL the same!

genti		11-Jun-2007 23:04
To Stefan all the messssages from u are soo racist against allbanian, but im not angry with u cos that is all that you know, who its serbia who knows serbian history???and i think you are just a pussy serbian and its a shame u dont know the history off your country do you know who is allbania? you dickhead i think you dont !! Albanian is Illiria and i know the history of my country very well. And im proud i am Illirian AND HOW CAN YOU SAY kOSOVO IS THE HEART OF SERBIA WHEN THEY SPEAK ALBANIAN??? AND THEY FLY THE ALBANIAN FLAG. do you want more from Albanian history? have you heard off SCANDREBEG? YOU STUPID SERB he has been fighting with ottemans for 25 years for his country and Serbia fighting like Barbarians they not fight to defend there people they fight to kill others only. And if you dont know Scandrebeg go to Napali Italy and see his monument or Belgium/ Austria . And he is Albanian hero you mother fucker all the world know him. So you cant say bad words for albanians WHEN YOU KNOW NOTHING !!!!. AND I WANT TO SAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WRITE BAD FOR ALBANIA TO VLAD WHO IS FROM ROMANIA YOU ALL HAVE VERY SMALL MIND TO SPEAK THAT WAY, JUST BECAUSE WE ARE A SMALL POOR COUNTRY . You have to learn to live in harmony with the Kosovo people and if you dont youre fucked as Kosovo was Albanian and still is Albanian!! WAKE UP !!!!. Genti. Albanian.

K O S O V A		11-Jun-2007 02:38
hahaha you filthy serbs congratulate me the indepedent of kosova all the world hear xhorxh bush saying today in tirana kosova will be a indepedent country soon i love america today serbia went in shock when they heard bush what he said kosova will be a ISRAEL for balkan we will fuck serbs more more land we will take from them from NIS TO PROPKUPLE FROM PROKUPLE TO JABLLANICA THAN BUJANOVAC ,PRESHEVA ETC in few years or maybe next year even VOJVODINA will ask for indepedent ha ha ha serbia will be the smallest country in europe than NOVI PAZAR SANJAK will be next for indepedent serbia will be more smaller ha ha ha all serbs girls are wellcome to kosova to work as workers in our farms and cleaning industry serb man"s can go to their friends greek gays ha ha ha RROFT SHQYPNIA E MADHE

Guest		09-Jun-2007 15:52
TIRANA PREPUNA AMERIČKIH ZASTAVA I SLIKA DŽORDŽA BUŠA 9.6.2007 15:51 (Od specijalnog izveštača Tanjuga Filipa Rodića) - Dan pred posetu predsednika SAD Džordža Buša, albanska prestonica Tirana je potpuno u znaku ove, kako se ovde jednoglasno ocenjuje, ''istorijske posete'', prve jednog američkog predsednika ''zemlji orlova''. Činjenica da Buš dolazi u Tiranu očigledna je praktično odmah po izlasku sa aerodroma - duž celog puta od vazdušne luke do centra grada vijore se jedna pored druge albanske i američke zastave, a na svim bilbordima duž puta istaknute su prigodne poruke poput ''Dobrodošao u Albaniju'', ''Poseta Džordža Buša - pisanje istorije'' ili ''Ponosni što smo partneri''. Such an inferior race..

Vlad ROMANIAN		08-Jun-2007 17:45
Salutare Adi, imi pare bine ca acum cunosc numele tau. Cea ce ai scris simplu mi a lasat fara cuvinte. iti ai dovedit o mare moralitate si o mare personalitate. E o mare placere ca vrei sa intri in organizatia noastra, pentru ca noi totii suntem EXACT ca tine, plini de idealism, si dragoste pentru Patria. Sunt sigur ca vom castiga un tezaur precios cu intrarea ta. Te asteptam cu bratele deschise si sper ca cei mai multi romani adevarati ca noi vor simti in inima lor sentimentul asta de revansa. Imi face o mare placere ca si tu in sfarsit ai inteles ca nu o mai putem duce asa. Am trecut de la un regim comunist la un regim si mai rau de coruptie, mafie si tiganie. Eu nu pot sa ved bogatia tarri noastre in mana unor porci de baroni locali care traiesc prin frauda si coruptie. Nu suport sa ved poporul nostru suferind sub saracia si justitie corupta in vreme ce ciorii isi fac vile, si inca se mai plang ca mai vreau drepturi. Nu mai suport sa ved ca tineretul nostru este amenintat prin scarba aia de manele care ii face o adevarata spalarea de creer obsedand tinerii nostri cu BANI, BANI, BANI. Tineri nostrii daca nu incepem sa i readucem la valorilor crestine al patriei si la dragoste pentru tara, vor gandi in viitor cu o mentalitate de tigan, prin spalarea asta de creer. Cultura noastra asa frumoasa si puternica trebuie sa sa impuna solemn pe inima tinerilor nostrii si sa i futem o data pe porci aia de tigani care dupo ce ne au furat bogatia, incearca sa si impuna si cultura lor de scarba. Haide alaturate la lupta noastra, avem nevoie de tineri ca tine. To albanian: please , stop! I am near to die for laugh ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah To Stefan: regards to you too

Guest		08-Jun-2007 17:28
Yeah I tried to avoid that shit for as long as possible but sometimes when you read things that make you laugh at how ridiculous they are you have to get involved. Lmao just watched the Simpson's episode where Ned Flanders sections himself :D I am half way through my important exams, I have done well so far I think, but I still have another week to go. Then a longgggg holiday to look forward to Regards to Vlad and some others Sieg Heil

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		08-Jun-2007 10:43
Hey,people let's change a subject for a while...People get bored by war and such things...I said I think that Albanians started the war in Serbian Kosovo,Macedoonia etcbut those shitheads now like tell us that it's all our fault on this site dedicated to Belgrade sites.It's pretty stupis,I'd say because this could go on forever and by that this site loses its function,don't you think?I still consider Albanians the pussies and always will,they have no courage,strenght,either physical or psyhical and so on...Shortly-they can suck my cock,all to one...But wouldn't it be much more useful to change our experience through this writting here? Regards to all non-Albanians KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA CP6UJA qO TOKUJA MLADIC RATKO SECE KRATKO

Seneka		08-Jun-2007 05:56
That's really funny listening to you albanian. Romania a third world country ???!!! ROFL Don't listen to this idiot my serbian friends. Both our countries will rise to glory for our two nations are the most valorous and brave from the east of Europe. So be glad my brothers for the future is bright. Best regards. TRAIASCA ROMANIA !!! LONG LIVE SERBIA !!!

the_albanian		06-Jun-2007 19:28
#1 i do not like serbian language because I was forced to learn it #2 i do not wish to speak it or write it. So this is why if you are wishing for me to respond in Serbian I will never do that. As for understanding Yes i understand you, and of course i don't know the language perfectly but good enough to get through. You don't have to respond to me but I would suggest for you stop talkin about what happened because you don't know what happened. You base your sayings in what your dictatorship country tells you. In the other hand I read croatian, serbian, albanian, and bosnian news. So trust me when i respond i respond from those sources. So don't think i am brainwashed, but think about it I was born there and lived there and I got hit by the police for no reason. Rule of the Army and Police: "you do not hit, kill, or attack in any way an unarmed person, or minors." Guest.... You are shit you just smell differently than us but you are still shit along with romania and russia. You are still along with us and the rest of Salvs are 3rd worl countries.

Seneka		06-Jun-2007 18:50
Salutare Vlad, Cred ca pe viitor o sa ma inscriu in organizatia ta. Deja nu mai suport cata lipsa de moralitate e in Romania, nu mai suport, simt ca ma sufoc daca nu ma ancorez intr-o cauza cat de cat nobila, altfel parca totul e de prisos. In fine, sper ca-ti merge bine si ca o sa-ti mearga bine in viitor fara sa fii nevoit sa-ti calci vreodata principiile. Numai bine, Adi

Guest		06-Jun-2007 16:42
Albanian I don't want to talk to you anymore because I always told the truth to you and said what I am and what I think and what I know. You told me you understand Serbian and can speak it, if you knew even a few words you could see that I asked you to respond in Serbian if you understand. You are a lying Albanian, do not address me anymore you liar! Telling me this and that about how Serbs lie, look at your fucking self you imbecile. You're lies and incompetence make me laugh. Goodbye Sieg Heil

Guest		06-Jun-2007 01:06
Just admit that you are the most undeveloped country in Europe, and than, I think, your personal psychology will get much better. Until than you may lie to yourself (and others) how in any way you are better than Serbians and Serbia, maybe its part of you treatment.

the_albanian		05-Jun-2007 23:43
Guest.... you sound like an idiot... go look at maps of undeveloped countries. Serbia with the rest of eastern europe including your own brothers and prostitutes russia and romania, are included. Albania is medium low human development = 3rd worl country, as serbia doesn't give its information because embarrassed about their needs and poverty. Have you checked up on your sister who's been staying in the corner??? have seen her couple of times... You think I am boring but this is your own way of defense. Go learn some psychology and interpersonal communication and maybe just maybe you can be in the same level as I am.

Guest		05-Jun-2007 00:15
this albanian toilet cleaning emigrant is so boring... man.. Albanian Is your 17'th sister boring as you are?? Albania is the most undeveloped country in the northern hemisphere .. Its people are ugly, its mentality is herd-like, and the language is very ugly.. But the funniest thing of all are albanian mutant-like faces just go search in google and you will see what I'm talking about.

Vlad ROMANIAN		04-Jun-2007 21:26
albanian albanian, thank for exist, you rse up my humour after these boring days, your words are the best comics of the world I repeat again thank for exist.

Guest		04-Jun-2007 19:45
Stefan you can write as much as you want in serbian, but it will always be a vulgar ugly language which when you speak it everyone thinks you are saying something insulting because how vulgar it sounds. As for kosovo, really you can say all you want but you have lost it because justice has been served. Just because you have russia in there threatning, for another war, they will be blamed for the instability in the region. Plus serbs in kosova have accepted that they will be under kosovars, and they accept the ahtisaari plan anyways. Good luck buddy in sports because you are blinded to the reality of politics and life. I prefer you stick with the sports because obviously you only read one source of news. As for your pride on sports I would suggest you lower it because you have been embarrassed by the Argentinian soccer team. Now you say Albania never made it, but it is better to not make it then lose by that many goals. You know what i am talking about. Even Trinidad didn't lose by so many goals in their series.

Guest		04-Jun-2007 19:39
hey at least we are a white race respected and supported by many nations. Just because a gypsie producing race which we always hated and kicked out of kosova and albania and wopped until they cried, i will always be proud. And just because you insult Albania you are not really insulting me. I come from Kosova we have different mentalities. We know how much you hate albanians just because in a protest only Romanian soldiers used plastic bullets killing two protesters. Since then no romanian left in kosovo because they would have died. As for the law, Kanun rules hence why europe doesn't mess much with albanians because once you get into that you and your family would die very fast or sometime in the near future. But again you only know parts of the Kanun such as the revenge laws, as I know the entire thing. So really, Romanian=Roma=Gypsies=nastiest race in europe who have a crazy high natality and work the dirtiest jobs. The highest prostitution, the lowest lavel in society, the lowest paying jobs. Every romanian i know is a painter and there are 10 of them and they work for 800 dollars and they split it. Looks how high of culture you are... Romanians are going to go to europe and spread your gypsie race throughout europe because your country is shitty anyways.

Guest		04-Jun-2007 16:44
Ej siptaru, ajde da pricamo na Srpskom, posto ja te ne verujem da znas. Kako si mi sad odgovorio ja se kladim da nisi stvarno iz Kosovo, nego da si malo dete, i da si rodjen na stranstvo, ko i ja. Ajde pokazi mi da ne lazes i da stvarno umes da pricas nas jezik. Steta je sto slabo pricam svoj jezik ali ipak mozemo da se rezumemo, zar ne? Ovako je: prekini sa tvojim fantazijama i budi covek, sto stalno seres? Ko da smo mi Vama ubijali bez razloga. Istina je da Vi ste nama uvek ubijali i mi smo Vam stalno oprostili, tako je bilo pred Turcima, preko Prvog Svetskog Rata, Drugog Svetskog Rata, i posleg Tita, i sad sa KFORom. Mi smo Vam DOZVOLJAVALI da zivite u Kosovu, u Srbiji, to je srce naseg zemlja! Mi smo Vam dali da dozlazite preko granice sa Albanijom za 50+ godinama, i sad kad ste Vi velika vecina u Kosovu poceli ste malo da serete sa ovim KLA i ostalim teroristickim fazonama. Mi smo Siptari i branili protiv svoji teroristi, a pogledaj sad sta smo dobili od toga.... trebali smo da Vam sve izbrisemo iz Balkana, i da razbijemo Tiranu, da ne bi ni jedan siptar ostao zivo. Ali jebiga, vide cemo, za jedno 50 i nesto godina bice i Kosovo Srpsko ponovo ja mislim, ali nadam se da necemo opet na ista greska da padnemo. Cujemo se Sieg Heil

Guest		04-Jun-2007 16:37
Ej siptaru, ajde da pricamo na Srpskom, posto ja te ne verujem da znas. Kako si mi sad odgovorio ja se kladim da nisi stvarno iz Kosovo, nego si neko malo dete, i da si rodjen na stranstvo, ko i ja. Ajde pokazi mi da ne lazes i da si stvarno Siptar iz Kosovo, i umes da pricas nas jezik. Steta je sto slabo pricam svoj jezik ali ipak mozemo da se rezumemo, zar ne? Ovako je: prekini sa tvojim fantazijama i budi covek, sto stalno seres ko da smo mi Vama nesto radio bez razlog. Vi ste nama uvek ubijali i mi smo Vam stalno oprostili, tako je bilo pred Turcima, preko Prvog Svetskog Rata, Drugog Svetskog Rata, i posleg Tita, i sad pred KFOR. Mi smo Vam DOZVOLJAVALI da zivite u Srbiji, u Kosovu, to je srce naseg zemlja, mi smo Vam dali da dozlazi te preko granice sa Albanija za preko 50 godina, i sad kad ste Vi velika vecina poceli ste malo da serete sa ovim KLA i ostalim teroristickim fazoni. Mi smo Vam i branili protiv svoji teroristi, a pogledaj sta smo dobili za to.... trebali smo da Vam sve izbrisemo iz Balkana, i da razbijemo i Tiranu, da ne bi ni jedan siptar ostalo zivo. Ali jebiga, vide cemo, za jedno 50 i nesto godina bice i Kosovo Srpsko ponovo, ali nadam se da necemo opet ista greska napraviti. Cujemo se Sieg Heil

Vlad ROMANIAN		04-Jun-2007 09:33
The albanian, you are a typical albanian DICKHEAD sad for the shit country where he live, a country where still now the law is KANUN, the electrical light is only in the capitol Tirana and only for some hours, a country where millions of citizens leave for go in Italy in clandestine way with ships, a country where the army don't exist, a country famous only for CAR STOLEN, PROSTITUTION, DRUGS. Is very very comic to see a shit albanian speaking about Romania ah ah ah ah ah ah ah is the same to see an AFRICAN speak about ENGLAND! We are in EU, we are christian we produced one od the greatest fascist party of the history IRON GUARD who inspire the actual EUROPEAN NATION FRONT. We have Motorroads, we have an economical growth of 7% we have hypermarkets, we have one of the smallest unemplyement of Europe, we produce a great CINEMA, we had 400 nobel prize, the most modern ANTIVIRUS SYSTEM of Microsoft was invented by some romnanian students etc... What is Albania? Simple a shit, an islamic shit. In Italy Albanians are the most hated race, in Bari, Brindisi, they stolen and kill and italian roads are full of albanian prositutes. For example last week in Novara (North Italy) 4 albanians under drug effects, wearing kalashnikov, took a bus and hostages. This is an AFRICAN attitude, you are famous everywhere for being a shit people, expecially in Italy where few years ago you went in 5000 on an only ship full of you , WAS A BIBLIC SHENE!!!!!!! A only ship full of 5000 peoples was incredible!! You are a shit race: SQUARED HEAR, FETID, DIRTY, STUPID. You seem a JOKE OF NATURE eh eh

Guest		03-Jun-2007 23:56
Vlad, The government doesn't give a shit about the people. It is the political interest. It is in the interest of the country to support this because it will go down in your profile as a supported for stability. And if the NATO supports it, every nation in NATO is for the plan of the UN convoy. As for the Romanian minority in serbia and almost every european country are gypsies. All if them are from Romania. It is evident that all the gypsies in Europe are from Romania (the biggest producer of Roma population).

Vlad ROMANIAN		03-Jun-2007 09:51
To The albanian: you said that we support the NATO's pèlane about Kosovo. That's absolutely false! In what concern Romania I cand guarantee that is very different the position of our peoples and the position of our leadership. Leadership is a thind, the people is another. Also in 1999 our former governament help NATO giving our bases to them for bomb Serbia, but romanian people was TOTALLY AGAINST this position and many many great manifestation were in Bucharest at that time for support serb peoples who suffered under that criminal aggression. In fact after that war, we had elections and that government LOSE. In Serbia live also a great romanian minority and they live in harmony together serbs, so this is another point because we support the right of Serbia to mantain its HEART KOSOVO. regards

Guest		02-Jun-2007 23:16
sorry i meant Kosova and Bosnia (not serbia)

Guest		02-Jun-2007 23:14
your russian friends.... this is what they said in 1999 prior to the bombings.... Russians said the the western powers... you drop one bomb in Serbia we will bomb US our atomic bombs will be ready to be launched. And as you know Serbia got bombed for 74 days (and you are saying nothing was damaged) and russia stayed up in its north pole home watching TV. Live bombings enjoying some food. When the bombing was over June 1999 russian army enters kosova. All serbs are happy yaaay russians. NATO comes in the same week. Russia said: We will take control of everything... Nato tells them: You will be under our command Russians of course resist and after a month your brother abandon you. By July the russian army left kosova as they were begging for cigaretts from the british army. Serbs, just like russians, are little pussies who try to show power but really there is something up their ass that will burn them for a long long time. Why is the serbian police arresting all its paramilitary people who acted in kosova and serbia??? because to you what they did was heroic. Killing innocent people is heroic to serbs. Sorry but albanians do not live by those ideals. It has been shows culturally, historically, and traditionally.

Guest		02-Jun-2007 23:02
Stefan, You have a twisted logic. Again you are a serb and of course you will protect your own interest. You have no idea how stupid you sound. Why were the serbs still in kosova during the bombing??? why were there serbian tanks in my neighbors house?? Serbs wanted NATO to bomb houses to say that they are targeting civilians. You are blinded, oblivious to the reality. I was there remember that. Serbs were not protecting Albanians, you hate us, you have to admit that. You told people to give yo money if they want to be safe. Is this out of a good heart??? oh it must be, you are all like that. What about 1998, and 1999 masacres in Drenica, and Gjakova. What about Krusha e Vogel, and Krusha e madhe?? what about all those people missing. You really think we are some kind of animals who would kill their own brother. You really don't know our culture obviously. You are scapegoating the KLA because you don't want to blame your paramilitary people and you army for all the massacres. I hope you are realizing what you are saying. You are telling, me which I am a first eye witness, that serbs didn't kill albanians? Why were innocent civilians killed?? Where are my 3 uncles and his families who had nothing to do with the KLA. Do you know when the KLA entered Djakovica??? Late May 1999. Serbs massacred that town and burned the oldest section of the town. I know people who witnessed everything. I have my grandmother who saw her sons being killed and you are telling me that KLA did this??? I have cousins who were taken in like for excecutions some escaped some killed. 1918... The western powers give Kosova officially to Serbia. They drew the borders then, and you know what happened prior to those years?? another extermination. Entire towns and villages kicked out or executed. The sad this is that this is not only taught in Albanian schools, but also written in lectures and memos by serbian scholars. There are letters from german, italian, hungarian, french, and british journalist traveling to these regions, witnessing mass migrations out of kosova. It is evident that Serbs tried to do ethnic clensing for centuries. You are using the protection of the people as a way to cover up the "ethnic Clensing." we are tied to our lands and ancestors as Prof. Cubrilovic said. But the question here is, why weren't serbs leaving if you were protecting the "people." See buddy thing about it, you wanted serbs to die because then you can say KLA did it. Serbs are th epeople here and this is why albanians left. Stefan, we are not stupid people. What demographics say about us, it is really not true, because for kosova, you gave out the demographics and serbs always wanted Albanians to fail. THis is the truth. As for the High Mountains, yes they will cut your throat because you invaded their land. Well as for my race, I am proud to be an Albanian and you can say whatever you want to say, but as you know the entire world except russia, supports our independence. And as you can see Serbia lost almost every war. You brothers back in russia don't give a shit about serbia. They could care less. If US doesn;t build their defense system in Eastern Europe and we let the russian army come in kosova as an army, Russia will not use its veto. Russia just wants a deal that will give them power... for serbia they don't give a shit, nor will china. China needs US. Your neighbors and brothers, romanians and bulgarians, they already support the plan for kosova. You are left with no one. You are the most hated race in the world and it is not that you are something good, but you are a nasty race who are cold blooded murderers. We were your victims, hence why there are 12000 albanians killed in 1998-99 and there are still 300 people missing. So say goodbye to the province you once stole from us. As for the serbs in kosova, the have all rights unlike you pieces of shit who took all our rights away. Peaceee

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		02-Jun-2007 22:59
RATKO IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RATKO IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RATKO IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest		02-Jun-2007 13:18
Albanian, No no no! I said no displacement of Albanian civilians took place before the NATO bombing. The only genocide which took place on Albanian civilians was from UCK who murdered any Albanians who were loyal to Serbia/Yugoslavia and refused to harbour them. Naturally, Western cameras said it was the Serbs who did it, becuase that gave them an excuse to bomb us into submission, because Milosevic didn't take any of their shit then, and they needed an excuse to bomb Serbia proper, not Bosnian Serbs like 5 yrs before. Don't be so naive as to think the World really cared about Albanians, they just wanted an excuse to bomb Serbia because it wouldn't give them everything they wanted. It was too stubbourn for their liking, so they destroyed the infrastructure NOT THE MILITARY, and now Serbia is the West's lapdog. Yes Albanians did get displaced AFTER NATO started bombing, like I said before, I made this clear. Because we were getting bombed and killed for PROTECTING YOU SHIPTARI from your own fucking extremists, so why should we? 1 million Shiptars got sent abroad, not killed OK, they got told to leave their homes and leave Serbia. Why should Serbs die IN FUCKING SERBIA to protect Shiptars, that would be like there is a Paki revolt in England, then the Army goes and destroys the rebels and protects the innocent Pakis who are loyal to England, then the whole World bombs England for something they weren't doing. What the fuck ?? Why should Serbia spend money and spill blood to protect Shiptars on our own turf FUCKKK OFFFFF MATE. You think Shiptari would do the same to Serbs if there were any in your godforsaken country? Don't be so stupid they would have just killed them in the first fucking place. WHAT DID WE DO IN 1918 HUH? YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE, YOU MISS OUT VITAL DETAILS ALWAYS. What happened to the Serbian soliders who retreated through Albania after being thrashed by Austria-Hungary and Germany huh?? Remember how many thousands were killed why they slept by Albanian nomads who came and slit their throats at night?? You motherfucker your race is the worst in the World you don't deserve to live. Less than half of the soldiers who retreated from Serbia were still alive once they finally made it to refuge on Corfu where our Brothers Greeks gave us shelter and helped us. Stop making out like you are victims always you are not you bring everything upon yourselves. Goodbye

Guest		02-Jun-2007 13:08
Vlad, I am glad to hear your workplace is busy and thriving, and that you are prospering economically as a result :) I've got exams every day during the following two weeks, I have already done 4 and I think I did well on all of them. I hope to get 'A' s in every subject so I've been revising hard that is why I haven't frequented this forum much over the last week or so because of last minute hard revision. It is a nervous time for me because these exams can prove a lot and are fairly important to my later life, so it is vital I do well, to make myself and my family proud. It's OK though, because after these two weeks I will have a two and a half month holiday!! Which I am very much looking forward to, I will be able to just go to parties and spend time with my girlfriend everyday and I won't have a worry in the World! Then at the end of July I will go to my Motherland Serbia for a month and party nonstop in my town and in Belgrade. Also I will attempt to re read Mein Kampf and I hope to gain a better understanding of Hitler and Fascism. The first time I read it was very sketchy, because I had Communist sympathies then and I was not interested in Nazism, I had to read it for my school History class. But this time now that I have a love for that topic it should be a pleasure to read outside in the shade during the hot days in Serbia, taking breaks every now and again to eat some watermelon or go swimming. It will be beautiful I hope. That's a great achievment for Romanian cinema! Congratulations :) Serbian cinema is poor these days, Yugoslavian cinema was once pretty good, if you watch films such as Otpisani and Krvava Bajka you will see this quality shine through. The only credible film I think from the last 10 years out of Serbia is Rane, about some young Serbian gangsters. I like it just because the subject appeals to me, it is hardly a masterpiece though, haha. Yeah I hate gypsies too, they are such scum. They look exactly like the Pakis here in England, I think they are all from India/Pakistan originally anyway. They are the most dirty people, even worse than Albanians. They should be treated in the same respect as niggers and Pakis, deported and banned from re-entering Europe. Regards my friend Sieg Heil Stefan

Guest		30-May-2007 22:35
OMG it is back...... Boredome returns to this old Belgrade gallery.. As for this gallery, Belgrade changed a lot towards better..

Guest		30-May-2007 19:22
Hello, Hopefully no one missed me... I had an emergency and business to attend and gave me no time to respond here. Guest is not me. Stefan... I guess you have fallen to propaganda. You were kicking us out of our homes from terrorists?? are you serious. do you know how idiotic that sounds??? there is no logic to that. It is like you are in a war with the brits and they kick you our of the place because they want to protect you. You must be blinded I swear. You think that serbs didn't want kosova clean of Albanians?? So according to you, serbs kicked albanians of their homes forcefully... You are saying that the serbs who came to my house and pointed a gun to our faces and asked my father to give them 10K DM was not a threat??? you committed genocide admit it. I am a first hand experience. I seen it with my own eyes, and at that time i was a child. You call that protection??? there were thousands of albanians killed because they didn't have the money to give to the serbian terrorists so they got killed, and some got killed after they were given the money. You call this protection??? if you were true catholics/christian/orthodox you would follow the guide of Augustine about wars. You do not touch the innocent and the unarmed. As for that video, you are like a kid man. The entire eastern europe knows you ave a superior army than most Balkan countries. You do not have to show anything, but because you feel helpless you need this kind of videos to boost your serbian pride. As for your second comment which i did not get to comment upon... You are mentioning the albanian alliance with the european nations (italy, germany, and turkey)... yes that is true we did surrender and with albanian help we gathered all serbs we could and germans came and assassinated you. But remember prior to 1940s??? How tried to wipe the albanians out??? serbs... that is who. Why would you think we would not revenge on you??? We live by a code of law "an eye for an eye." You displaced entire regions from kosova to turkey. If you go to turkey you will find entire villages of albanians and they all speak albanian perfectly. All these migrations have been documented by your scholars. Entire villages wiped out in days and then serbs came over. Decan was all albanian populated at one time and all the sudden all serbs came over. Where the hell did he people go??? Prior to 1918 albanians we also targeted by serbs to wiped out, and many registered themselves as turks because they did not want to be wiped out. Think about kid??? You are speaking from what you heard from Serbian Media. But I am talking here first hand experience.

Vlad ROMANIAN		30-May-2007 16:11
Hello Stefan, happy to be here again and to see you. I was very very very busy with my job, this period is full of work, many new customers in our bank. Sometimes I exit also 30 min later. My life is very changed since I start this job. Was a radical changment. My life in few months became totally different in good and in bad aspects. I have less time to spend wìtogether friends also if now I am more more economical possibilities. IN my country many thing happened in this time. We won the Golden Palm with our film. This is a reason of Great pride for our romanians. A young regist, was able to prepare that great film in only 6 months, with only few moneys, and only a month before another our young regist (Nemescu) 27yo, who unfortunatelly died recetnly, won another great concourse. Is a great pride that our cinema is so live and creative, all foreign newspapers said that our regists and our actors, also with few materials are able to realize great film like that. Our president insults a gypsy on a street and this also was a reason of great happy for me. Is wonderfull that our autorities show hate against gypsy. I hope it was a start of a strong ANTI-GYPSY policy. I hate them. My dream is to clean my Fatherland by them on a day. Regards

Guest		29-May-2007 23:28
Hello Vlad how are you keeping my Kameraten? Regards Sieg Heil Stefan

Vlad_ROMANIAN		27-May-2007 20:22
da mai sunt pe aici ce mai faci frate? Am fost foarte ocupat cu servic. Ai vazut povestea cu Basescu si tiganca? Vai ce placere am avut........ presedinte nostru care o in sfarsit ataca tiganii, e o fericire imensa asa mult timp am asteptat astfel de situatii. Dar din pacate cum bine sti, tot va termina aic. As fi preferat sa treaca la fapte. Ce frumos a fi daca maine sa adunam toti ciorii in stadioane si sa i umplim de plumb....vai ce vis!! Tu esti din Botosani?

Guest		27-May-2007 13:59
YOU GUYS WANNA SEE SOMETHING SERIOUSLY FUCKING FUNNY AND YET SOOO TRUE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2dpr5XmrJE HAHAHAHAAHHHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG !!!!

Seneka		25-May-2007 20:42
Vlad, mai esti pe aici fratioare ? :D

Guest		23-May-2007 23:14
As for KLA they were funded by their mafia, but in no way were they terrorists. I think this is enough :)

Guest		23-May-2007 21:19
The kla WERE, ARE and always WILL BE terrorists! They were on the FBI list of terrorist organisations until 1998 when they were taken off because the USA wanted to DESTROY SERBIA how can you not understand that?! After the USSR and Communism collapsed in Eastern Europe, Yugoslavia was the only obstacle left in the way of the West!! And Serbia was at the centre of it! The majority of people was Serbs and the capital Belgrade is in Serbia! They were the most loyal to Yugoslavia, so the West funded nationalist groups in Slovenia and Croatia and armed them well before the wars even started! They were well prepaired. The West seeked to DESTROY SERBIA because we were the ONLY country that was willing to stand up to them in all of Europe and not take their shit! Russia under Yeltsin was the biggest pussy country and insult to Russian pride ever! Serbia under Milosevic was strong, united and powerful. So powerful that we dared to take on the entire World. And the Kosovo War was not lost militarily you know this!! Western stations reported 1000s of tanks and planes destroyed but when the Serbs eventually pulled out of Kosovo the ENTIRE army was still intact and it was revealed that only 12 tanks were put out of service as a result. 3 totally destroyed and 9 with the tracks blown off. The Serbs lost the Kosovo War because of the MEDIA and political division WITHIN Serbia. You know this dude why would you make me waste my time by typing it, to be honest I hate typing, I am lazy for things like this, I like to write and I like to play sport and work hard in that sense, not on a computer like some nerd. The West has succeeded in destroying Serbia and now we are reliant on THEM! Which is what they aimed for and wanted from the very start. You think they came to you Albanians' aid because they CARED for you?!! HAhahaha don't make me laugh! They now have the biggest base in the Balkans in Kosovo, they have full control over Serbia and the entire Balkan penninsula, they will take everything from Kosovo, bleed it dry. The West NEVER gets involved in a conflict unless it is for a personal gain, remember that, fucking hell you live in the West can you not see that?!!! You think they went to Iraq for 'weapons of mass destruction'? Don't make me laugh! They went because Saddam wanted them to pay a fair price for exploiting his country's oil. He wouldn't co-operate with their demands so they went and fucked him over and now they can do whatever they want. 3000 troops is a very very small price to pay for BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. That is the reality my friend, there is no rosy World where Albanians are the superior Aryan race and are oppressed forever by the Serbs on their own land and then the rightceous America swoops to their aid and restores the freedom of the World with their wonderful democracy. Remove that illusion from your mind Mr Blerim Saqdaq Mohammed Duka Hakan. Yes 1 million Shiptari were expelled from Kosovo, after we were getting bombed for protecting them from their own terrorists. Innocent men and women were not killed we have better things to do then kill primitive defenseless neaderthols. Goodbye

the_albanian		23-May-2007 19:38
Stefan: Comment #1 I know serbian is nothing like romanian just like albanian is nothing like turkish but to me its the same. Get it? Second, the genocide did happen, hence why 1 million people were kicked out of their homes. Everyone who stayed back was in great danger of being killed. Look at those documents buddy, Tito carried them for a little until the 1960's albanian political group came along. Slobodan also used Crubovic's document to justify. It started in 1998 with the Earstern part of kosova where there were 95% albanans where serbs didn't even care. Gjakova (djakovica), Peja (pec) were one of the most hard cities. When their citizens came back it was devastating because of the high albanian population. I know I am not talkin to americans I am not that dumb, but you were never in kosova to know what happened. I seen it and experienced the war first hand. So don't give me that shit. My uncle was a KLA general trained by serbs 3 star general. As for KLA they were funded by their mafia, but in no way were they terrorists. They did not have intentions in destroying human life, but they simply defended their famiies which were driven to the mountains with little food to eat. So if you really call the KLA which operated in kosova in 1999 a terrorist group then you are calling the entire EU, US, UK, and MK terrorists because they all cooperated with them and helped them out... They were their eyes and ears on the ground. As for the Army, I am not denying, serbs have a strong army, i am very aware of that and that is the reason why NATO will be present there for some other 20 years. You have your eves in kosova because that is the most fertile land in x-yugoslavia with the most natural resources per square kilometer. If you look at maps, all your recources were there. That is why you want it, slobodan didn't give a shit for your monastaries or anything. As a matter of fact there were 200 albanian mosques destroyed some dating almost 650 years old. Mosque of Hadum one of the oldest was destoryed and thousands of Albanians witnessed it. You are denying everything because it hurts to accept that genocide happened. The world is not stupid to have so many serbs for the war tribunal. All the wanted albanians from kosovo turned themselves in. There are still serbs wanted for wars in Bosnia, and Kosova. You are saying like nothing happened in Kosova. Believe me we are nationalistic people and family oriented society. We don't kill each others family because there are vendettas all over the land if that happens. blood for blood.

Guest		22-May-2007 17:45
Throughout history it is YOU trying to cleanse US from Kosovo! You want to refer to books and whatever, I don't care what some Serb said about how we should get rid of you, he was fucking right you cause no good, you give no good to the world, only crime and ugliness and you know this yourself. Remember 1940s? When you Albanians surrendered yet again to an invador without a fight (this time Nazi Germany and Italy) and sided with them aiming to wipe out Slavs? Do you remember where Greater Albania comes from? It comes from a state Italy gave you including Kosovo, Albania, some of Macedonia and Montenegro! Do you remember thousands and thousands of Albanians from Albania proper FLOCKING like birds to Kosovo for a better life (who can blame them really) and do you remember how you killed thousands of Serbs and drove many many more from their homes in Kosovo? YOU have always tried to cleanse US! Not the other way round you lying Shiptar! Look now, what is going on in Kosovo, why is there no longer any Serbs? Because you drove them all out or into enclaves where they cant even go shopping without an entire convoy of KFOR soldiers to protect them from you Albanians. And you are making out like we wanted to cleanse you for centuries... SHUT UPPPPPPP IDIOT you aren't fooling anyone! Why are YOU burning OUR medievil churches and history? Because you are MUSLIMS, you are SHIPTARI, you haven't yet fully evolved to understand the meaning and value of those churches whether they are Serb or not. YOU are trying to wipe away OUR history and historical ties with Kosovo where there are THOUSANDS of our monasteries and NO ALBANIAN ANYTHING. Kosovo is where our heart is and whether you believe me or care or not, we will be back, so enjoy your lawlessness while it lasts. As I was saying before, my Uncle had to go and destroy the KLA and PROTECT your own people from them! Because they were TERRORISTS, they TERRORISED not nly Serbs but Albanians, Albanians probably more so! So as the unit moved on to the next village or town, some soldiers had to stay behind to keep the villagers safe and protect them from the KLA incase they returned and killed everyone there. No ethnic cleansing WHATSOEVER occured in Kosovo until AFTER the USA started bombing.... oh no wait, I'm lying, it did occur, but to SERBS, by Albanian terrorists! Why do you think Milosevic sent the army there in the first place? For a laugh? NO, because the KLA had started rampaging through Kosovo and intimidating all Albanians into complying to harbor them and killing and driving away Serbs. That is how it started if you don't remember correctly! The genocide that occured was shown on BBC, CNN, ABC and the rest, was of dead Albanians, killed by the KLA to whom they were "traitors" because they were loyal to the Yugoslav state. The cameras, naturally, reported how Serbs had carried out the killing, just as they had done in Bosnia and Croatia a few years before, and because of the MEDIA we were destroyed. As we were being bombed Albanians were cleared from Kosovo, because we were getting bombed because we were protecting Serbs in A SERBIAN PROVINCE UNDER SERBIAN SOVEREIGNTY and protecting you guys (that is, innocent Albanians) from your own bloody terrorists. Why should we be bombed for something we hadn't done? So tell me whatever you want about how we've been planning to remove you, but the truth is until the Second World War we were always the majority in Kosovo so you can suck my dick. It's a shame Tito became President and he didn't really like Serbs even though 99% of the Partizans who died for him were Serbs, and 90% of those all loyal to him were Serbs, but whatever I never said we were smart, just brave. And so yeah he let you all stay in Kosovo, and hundreds of thousands also poured over the border from 1945-90. You were let in on pure sympathy, like assylum seekers here in the UK. And then you were a giant majority, and with the autonomy Tito gave you you could be dangerous and threaten to take OUR MOTHERLAND. (I didn't see Tito give Serbs and autonomy in his Croatia though, in Krajina, did you? Same in Bosnia) Milosevic revoked your autonomy because nationalism for something that wasn't yours was growing, and I'm glad he did, if all Serbs had just listened and followed Milosevic Velika Srbija would almost be real. We would have Bosnia (at least 75%) not as autonomous, but as part of Serbia. Krajina would have greater autonomy, and Macedonia and Montenegro would be ours. Kosovo would be Albanian free too :-) it would have been beautiful! And listen to me dude, I didn't say CROATIA would get autonomy, it would get INDEPENDENCE, I said that the Serbs in Krajina (who were like 95%) would have greater autonomy within Croatia and strong links with the Serbian state which would have encompassed 70% of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Goodbye

Guest		22-May-2007 17:00
hahaha Guest bas si mi smesan :) Albanian, Come on dude you don't even know what you're talking about... Serbian the same as Romanian?? Dude Romanian is a ROMANCE language, it is similar to Italian and Spanish not fucking Serbian! Did I write "anyways"? My bad, typo, I meant to write "anyway" :-) This ethnic cleansing stuff is bullshit we didn't even ethnic cleanse you from Kosovo until AFTER the US started bombing us. My Uncle is a policeman and so got called up for Kosovo in 1998 before the NATO bombing in 1999, and initially his unit had to go through each village destroying the KLA village by village. They had terrorists in each village forcing the other Albanians to comply by their instructions or they were killed. Many many Albanians who were loyal to Serbia, the country that let them into Kosovo to escape the absolute poverty and awfulness of life in Albania under Enver Hoxha, were killed by their own people (hardline KLA - or UCK - rebels) who wanted to ETHNICLY CLEANSE SERBS from Kosovo so don't tell me this about the 1930s what the fuck. You are telling me if Serbs really wanted to get rid of you primitive cowards we couldn't? Let me refer you BACK to AFTER nato started bombing Serbia for acts of genocide it was not committing... do you remember the small thing of 2 million Albanians out of Kosovo in 48 hours? And you are telling me we can't get rid of you..... haahahaahahaha be real dude you are talking about Serbs here TO Serbs, not Americans who you can convince we are some coward idiots. Don't you know how crazy Serbs are? I advise you to go to Serbia and you will see the mentality of the people, then truthfully come and tell me they are pussies. They will run towards a rifle to eat the fucking bullets of it, they are a fearless people. I am not a fearless person, because I have a Western mentality because I have grown up here... but Serbs are different. So whatever you say about how we tried over and over to unsuccessfully remove you is an absolute joke, because you know yourself that Albania is a joke, and if we wanted to Serbia could control your entire country by nightfall tomorrow if we wanted to, Albanian Army has like 100 soldiers come on dude. I remember when it was the Kosovo war and the Albanian Army (from albania proper) was exercising near the border in case "Serbs tried to invade" hahaha why would invade that shit hole??!! But anyway, they were running along pulling a cannon from the First World War it was shameful, me and my Dad couldn't stop laughing, African countries are better equipped than you. Listen, you AS an individual have an intelligent mind, but don't try and make our like Albanians are some amazing race and Albania is anything other than a miserable backward place and that the idea of Greater or United Albania is just spreading your misery to what doesn't belong to you. goodbye

Guest		22-May-2007 13:11
Albanian I think that the reality is that you've been neglected by your mother cuz there were 15 of you, so admit that you are the undeveloped "nation" in Europe, and everything' s gonna be alright

pravi cetnik		22-May-2007 11:25
samo sloga sribija spasava

pravi cetnick		22-May-2007 11:22
hey siptar u a big mess bre get ur facts rite 1st no2 get out of here becoz ur not welcome here find ur own siptar site no3 da very second kosovo goes on its own where gonna set kosovo off last man standing its funny how u guys cant fight ur own arguements u need da yanks d a poms and god wot else where as serbs touch one touch all we will take on all of u wankers bring it on i was there in kosovo and im still here waiting for the ok 1by 1 im gonna cut all ur throats

Guest		22-May-2007 00:56
you think I am lying but I really am not. i am speaking the reality what you tried to do... you area really behind with the reality. You have been blinded with your TV channels BEOGRAD 1 and 2. Where they repeaditly reported US airplanes going down.

Guest		22-May-2007 00:54
they are your "brothers"

Guest		21-May-2007 23:48
Albanian you lie again.. btw: Greece is not a slavic country.

Guest		21-May-2007 23:16
i mean CCCP not CCCR

Guest		21-May-2007 19:24
Guest you are an idiot i swear... You must be a total Idiot. I guess Irish women mate like cats and bitches. You are an idiot I swear. You are so dumb. I will not argue with you anymore its useless, not that you beat me because i admit we have a high natality, but your comments are pure idiotic. Stefan, Just like you claimed Mother Theresa not being Albanian I can easily claim that Tesla wasn't serbian. Its just a counter argument. Your narrow minded mentality was shown when you said Mother theresa was born in "macedonia anyways." Then I will argue that Tesla was born in Croatian lands in the Austro Hungarian lands. So according to you Tesla is not Serbian. Albanias most famous people were born in the diaspora. Very useless claim in your side to argue that just because someone is born somewhere else doesn't make them Albanian. Very stupid if you ask me. As for Kosova being yours, please read the below posts i've put. There are many more where your scholars say that Albanians are deeply rooted to Kosovo so the only way to drive them out is the colonization and sebinasation of the land. Even back then you committed genocide. Very strange if you ask me and these are published and they can all be found in serbian libraries. Yes we are not similar to any language, unlike serbian which is practically the same as russian, romanian, bulgarian, macedonian, croatian, slovenian, belarus, kazakhistanian, and many x-CCCR countries. This shows your migration to the land. As for Montenegro, Albanians have lived there for a very long time as well. Plava and Gucia, Ulcin, and many villages under the Albanian Alps, were all Albanian. The reason why not many statistics don't show the high population of Albanians in Montenegro is that serbs have changed thair last names by adding "ic" in the end (which is what greeks do as well). In kosova serbs had no success in changing our last names. So what happens when you change names, the government will countr citizens ethnicity depending from their last names. All montenegro albanians who migrate to US change their last names to their original last names. Give it a couple of years to Montenegro and see what will happen. They promised Albanians a lot of things there and they are not giving anything. There will be a problem and I bet you they will be very very close to a war if they don't do anything about it. As for Autonomy, I guess you do not understand what that really does. With autonomy, the mother country, in this case serbia, it controlls borders, border controlls, phone lines, ministries, and money budgets, and it means we must report to Belgrade. Do you really think croats and even albanians would ever accept autonomy. No never because we know serbs and how and what they do. Manipulators. Kosova had its autonomy but once slobodan came over he annulled it. Afraid that we will separate and same thing with Vojvodina. You may think I am bullshiting but welcome to the reality. Serbs from Belgrade have no idea what you have done to albanian minorities. Macedonians got the message from Albanians living there that don;t try to do what serbs did to Kosovars because they will separate. That is the reason they gave them full rights. As a matter of fact, slavic nations have problems giving rights to people. I hope you see the pattern, Macedonians denied Albanian rights, Serbs and Montenegro the same thing, Greece the same thing, Serbs to Hungarians in Vojvodina, Russia to its x-CCCR nations, and other nations slavic nations with other minorities.

Guest		21-May-2007 11:09
hahaha the whole world says Nikola Tesla was Serbian he is even on the 100 dinar note but you say he is a Croat hahaha Don't you know that until 1995 Oluja Serbs had lived in Croatian territory for centuries, and unlike you Shiptaru I'm not going to say that Krajina is part of Serbia, because like Kosovo is clearly Serbian, history shows that Krajina is clearly part of Croatia, it just had a majority of Serb inhabitants. But you don't see me or even SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC calling for its independence. Nope. It should have been made autonomous, because if Croats wanted to break from Yugo why couldn't Serbs break from Croatia? And Autonomy was offered, Milosevic accepted because he was a GENIUS and he knew what he wanted and what was best. It was acheived with relatively little bloodshed, the war could have ended in Croatia there. But no, fucking Babic and those pussies wanted TOTAL independence, an unacheivable goal, the entire World was against us and we managed to acheive autonomy, something you Shiptars are finding hard with the entire World ON YOUR SIDE! And so we lost it all and half a million Serbs were forced out, which is a sad thing for the civilians affected, but it was always coming and I can even say it is deserved for the Krajina Serb polititians. But anyway, it is laughable to say Nikola Tesla was a Croat haha. I don't like the Serbian language, it is too complex, the hardest grammatical language in the World, I think even Russian is easier. But its nice sometimes when I meet Russians or Bulgarians here I can talk to them in Serbian and they understand and respond in Russian/Bulgarian and I understand it is amazing. Same with Poles and of course Cros and Makedonians. lol Unfortunately Albanian is similar to no other language in the World, but to me it sounds somewhat similar to Turkish, that's just me being honest not making up shit to offend. It's funny though because now that Montenegro is independent they have to deal with you guys themselves, Serbs aren't going to help anymore haha. When I was in Belgrade last year I have satellite so I was flicking channels and I got to RTCG1 (Radio Television of Montenegro 1) and it was the news, and I was like "what the hell is this I can't understand a word." Then my Uncle says "yeah that's Albanian, they have to put the news in Albanian now" hahaha unlucky Crna Gora! :D Good day.

Guest		21-May-2007 00:02
Albanian again you lie, but you are too boring to be dissaproved.. Find out when the first serbian literature emerged in witch centuriy.. You are the most primitive people of the Balkan penninsula, even EUROPE, admit it, you will feal wonderful !! As for mating like animals, admit that too.. Albanian women are more productive than cats or bitches.. And you are muslim too.. grose

the_albanian		20-May-2007 16:38
but yeah i guess albanians took advantage since tito wanted to increase population, and serbs couldn't mate, dude you are a waste of space and sperm in this world. Go to your archbishops there and get blessed and let him preach to you the killing of Albanians, and come to kosova and try to find me.

the_albanian		20-May-2007 16:24
can you see that its on quotes???? an educated person would know that that means that its copied from somewhere. And they were from nowhere else but the Serbian Institute of Arts and Science. and it's from your other hero Vasa Cubrilovic... just like Ratko and Arkan and many others who promoted killing and genocidee... Just read it and see what you people taught in schools. It doesn't take no more than 10 minutes to read both posts. But again you don't have patience because it's not favoring you and you would rather beat yourself watching porno sites. As for literacy, serbs did not have an official language until what 18th centure. Everything was oral tradition, just like albanians. You had 2 kings who knew how to write or translate two works and that was it. No books published for the next 600 years. If you do not believe go ahead and look in language web sites and see. And as for our birthrate, when you deny their education, and no proper health care, sometimes babies do not live. And as you know Tito said "you have 9 children you will have yugoslav suipport." So when you take our jobs away their only way to get money was to mate a lot of children because they will be supported. It's no ones fault but yours serb that you tried to walk over us but we saw opportunities and took them. If having many children brought money hey why not, sex is not bad.

Guest		20-May-2007 13:15
Ok the albanian you lied about literacy, do u really think anybody reads this shit you have copy paste? You can just be ashame being albanian or mate like an animal or stink or whatever you albanians do..

Guest		19-May-2007 21:25
here is another reason why you will never get Kosova back and doubts that serbia was there first. If you were there first your presence would be felt throughout history and not try to colonize places... DOCUMENT Colonisation and Serbianisation of Kosova by Kosta Novakovic ""By the end of April I happened to be in DurrÃ«s, when the Serbian soldiers got on ships and left for Serbia. Albanian small boys saw off the columns of Serbian soldiers, singing the popular national song: "We aren't Serbs, nor Bulgarians, We're courageous Albanians...". Instead of the word ′Greeks′ the boys put the word ′Serbs′. Serbian villagers who constituted the Serbian soldiery, got on ships singing gladly, that finally ended the expedition against Albania, an expedition that they did not understand why it took place. The scolding words of the Albanian boys were not taken badly by Serbian soldiers at all, as they knew quite well they deserved them, and they were quite a weak revenge for their barbarism they had displayed to the Albanian population during six months of Serbian occupation. But behind these Serbian peasants, tired of the war and illnesses, it was the official Serbia that was leaving Albania gnashing its teeth of anger and only because they were forced to by the Ultimatum of the Great Powers and the guns opposite the port of DurrÃ«s on the Austria-Hungarian and Italian ships. War operations were finished some time ago. Crushing Albania by the Serbian military was an attempt of Serbian imperialism to take the ports of Shkodra, DurrÃ«s and ShÃ«n-Gjin. Even though Serbian imperialists were forced to draw back from Albania, the conquest of Shkodra and North Albania is still one of the principal goals of their imperialistic programme. In the Serbian book of military instructions "What must I know as a soldier?", appreciated and praised by the Ministry of War by decree I.P., No. 1161, on 23 August, 1912, it reads, "All our provinces have not yet been united in our kingdom,... Shkodra, and part of North Albania..." The rural Serbia did not exist any more. It lost itself in several tens of years, and in 1912 it disappeared completely. Instead of it, an imperialist Serbia, pan-Serbian, showed up, with its pan-Serbian dynasty and pan-Serbian militarism. This new imperialism, crude, brutal, merciless, dreams of the return of King Duzan's kingdom, and tries to reach within next ten years the imperialist powers that have existed for hundreds of years. The Serbian farmer has been a blind tool of pan-Serbian imperialism, flesh for a gun, an animal without its tail - as the Serbian officers called him - that was forced under the cudgel of the officers to attack with bayonets... and burn and harass the occupied regions. Serbian imperialist government did not leave anything undone to the Albanians during the occupation. It ordered the rope to rise in dozen of regions of Albania. It massacred, killed and plundered the poor population. It bothered only the poor. The rich, beys, landowners and their property were protected by soldiers, so that farmers could not rise up, and it shared the land with beys and agas... The first victims of Serbian imperialism were Macedonia and Kosova. However, pan-Serbian imperialists, although forced by the more powerful imperialists to draw back from the Albanian coast, have kept the best and more fertile place of Albania: Kosova. We call Kosova the whole region inhabited by Albanians: Kosova, Metohia and the south part of the old Sanjak to Novi Pazar. More than 500,000 Albanians became slaves of a new ruler. Besides them, there are aditional 150-200 thousand Albanians in Macedonia. That is, there are altogether 650-700 thousand Albanians in Yugoslavia. Serbianisation of Kosova is the wildest example of a nation in the time of the Balkan War and the Second World War. The wildest terroristic and inquisition methods that were used in Kosova have not been seen either in Eastern Ukraine, or in Bjelorussia that are under Poland, or in Besarabia and Dobrudza that are under Rumania... Only Macedonia can be close to Kosova from this aspect. When Serbian imperialists invaded Kosova, they informed the world that they would return again their historical rights they had in 1389 (before the battle of Kosova). Basing themselves on these ′historical rights′, either Italy, or France, or Greece, or Turkey could rise and request to get half of Europe, as they had once these regions in their hands. Furthermore, France could request a part of Russia, as Napoleon went once to Moscow in 1812. But the ′historical rights′ of Serbia on Kosova are still stranger. When the Turkish military in the middle ages arrived to the borders of Austria, the Serbian patriarch Cernojevic and Serbian landowners went on their expense to fight to the benefit of Austria and to defend the rivers of the Danube and Sava. The landowner patriarch had taken with him 170,000 Serbian families from Kosova, mostly farmers and settled them on the land given Austria in Banat and Backa. The place in Kosova that had remained vacant, was gradually occupied by the Albanians that had lived there around, and together with a small number of the Serbs that had remained they worked out the land and made it fertile again! Now after so many hundred years, pan-Serbian imperialists claim that they have their ′historical rights′, both in Backa and Banat where the Serbs of Kosova live, and also in Kosova, which they left that time. This is called historical right! On the basis of such ′historical rights′, Serbian imperialists want to take ′pan-Serbian Kosova′ without Serbs. Kosova is a merely Albanian region, and has only 10 to 15% Serbs settled there in older times. The first means that Serbian imperialists put in effect were medieval military means, or means of colonial invaders: extermination of population, military operations, disarmament of population, crushing the armed resistance, etc. In 1912 and 1913, 120,000 Albanians were exterminated - men, women, boys, old men and women, children - hundreds of villages were shot by heavy guns, a large number of them were burned down, more in Kosova and less in Macedonia. It is to observe that the representative of Russian imperialist tsarist politics, minister of Russia in Belgrade, Hartvig, blessed this policy of extermination that was carried out by Belgrade. The Russian Orthodox Tsar extended his assistance to the Orthodox Serbian brother, king Petar and his son Aleksandar, to exterminate a whole people and expand the Orthodox religion in the Balkans. At least 50,000 Albanians were forced to emigrate to Turkey and Albania and become immigrants, in order to save their lives. The extermination of the Albanians rarefied Albanian masses in Kosova to a certain degree, but it could not change the Albanian character that Kosova has had. The intention to exterminate the Albanians in Kosova was to settle Serbs instead of them, to colonise Kosova by Serbs, serbisianation of Kosova. Nevertheless, until the end of 1912, owing to great resistance on the part of the Albanians, colonisation made a relatively slow progress. Only a small number of Serbs were settled in the region of Kosova in the first stages. Here we shall provide some official statistics of Serbian government, that indicate the Albanian character of Kosova. Out of 25,407 rural houses, only 6,311, i.e., only 17% were Serbs in the province of Kosova in 1919. In KaÃ§anik, there were totally 2.5% Serbs in 1924, the rest were Albanians. In the district of Prizren, there were 17% Serbs in 1921. This proportion was similar in the districts of Prishtina, Mitrovica, Gjilan, Peja, and Gjakova, and in some other districts the proportion of the Serbs was even smaller. In 1921, there were mostly 17% Serbs in whole Kosova. The Albanian national resistance was put up in two ways: in the legal way, by the Muslim organisation Cemiyet, and in the revolutionary way, by fighting with arms by Albanian national detachments that are called â€˜kaÃ§akÃ«' (outlaws). We shall speak of Cemiyet later. The Serbian government attempted to present Albanian â€˜kaÃ§aks' as robbers and put them out of the law. Every governmental service and every Serbian fascist has the right to kill them. â€˜KaÃ§aks' in fact are not robbers at all, but they are good Albanian guerrillas. There are people that can sacrifice everything, their houses, property and goods, and go to mountains, form guerrilla detachments and fight against the misdeeds and barbarisms of Serbian military and police. â€˜KaÃ§aks' believe they can dislodge the Serbian regime from Kosova in that way. These national warriors have fought a great fight, a fight that ought to be admired, against very big forces of Serbian gendarmerie and military. The names of Bajram Curri, Azem Bejta and hundreds of other brave men that have fallen at that war, have been carved in the hearts of the Albanians of Kosova. In 1920 more than 10,000 â€˜kaÃ§aks' were on the mountains of Kosova. There were 2,000 of them in Llab only. In 1920, in the time of the uprising of Llab, the Serbian military, under the command of colonel Radovan Rodovic, bombarded the big Albanian village of Prapashtica, and all the houses were ruined. Similar to Llab, Albanian national movements were organised in many other regions of Kosova, and were crushed by great Serbian forces in 1919 and 1924. We can mention here the movements of Plava, Gucia, Rugova in 1919, of Prishtina in 1921, Drenica in 1923, Mitrovica in 1924 and again of Drenica in 1924. By quelling these uprisings, the Serbian military killed 2,600 Albanians. National resistance in this way was limited to the fights of detachments of &primekaçaks′. According to an official report of Serbian government, there were 1,200 organised &primekaçaks′ in detachments in 1924. In 1927, the Serbian police published a report: 310 Albanian â€˜kaÃ§aks' were killed, 175 caught as prisoners and 626 surrendered. In 1927, the movement of &primekaçaks′ ceased to act, but the spirit of &primekaçaks′ lives in every village and will never cease to exist until Kosova is free. The pan-Serbian regime knows this quite well. That is why it has decided to denationalise Kosova totally, not only by crushing wildly the Albanian movement, but also by grabbing their land and colonising Kosova by Serbs. I am going to discuss this matter in the next issue of Liria KombÃ«tare."

the_albanian		19-May-2007 21:18
here are reasons why you will never ever for the rest of eternity will get kosova back... Just one Document... propaganda purely... this si what was taught to people of serbia... then you wonder why you lost kosova and why people beleive us. "Bearing in mind everything that has been said above, it is no accident that in studying the issue of the colonization of the south, we start from the view that the only effective way of solving this problem is the mass emigration of the Albanians. Like other countries, we have had no success with gradual colonization. When the state authorities wish to intervene in the interests of our own nationality's struggle for land, they can only do so successfully if they act brutally. Otherwise, the local inhabitants, rooted in their birthplace and acclimatized to it, are always stronger than the colonists. In our case, we must remember at an early stage that we are dealing with a poor, deep-rooted, and fertile race, whom the late Cvijic called the race in the Balkans most likely to expand. Between 1870 and 1914, Germany spent whole billions of marks in gradually buying land from the Poles, in order to colonise its eastern territories, but the fertility of Polish mothers defeated German organisation and money. Thus, in 1918, Poland claimed Poznan as its own again. Our statistics from the years 1912-1931, which we have already mentioned, show that the fertility of Albanian women defeated our colonisation policy too. From this, we must draw conclusions and act swiftly as long as we have time to make corrections. All Europe is in a state of chaos. We never know what the next day will bring. Albanian nationalism is increasing in our territories too. To leave the situation as it is means, in the case of a world conflict or a social revolution, both of which are possible in the near future, to put a question mark over all our territories in the south. The purpose of this memorandum is to avoid such a thing. " - Lecture held at the Serbian Cultural Club... Vasa Cubrilovic, 7 March, 1937. Archives of Military-Historic Institute

the_albania		19-May-2007 21:07
There is no word in any of my replies that I actually disrespected him. I cannot find one but I do disagree with your fellow serbian here claiming he invented electricity or how to be produced. The fact is that Persians formed electricity historically through batteries but never knew what it was. Tesla is known for creating motors to create electricity, and magnetic field work. But in no means does that mean he created eletricity. Adn he was not serbian but Croatian. He was born there and only lived there for no more than 24 years. I could care less that his inventions were stole because serbs always continue to steal history and manipulate it to fit their own needs. One day you will even claim skenderbeg to be your hero just like greeks are trying to do. Of course you guys are brothers. As for literacy... Yes we formulated our official language in 20th century, but we spoke it for way longer than that. You written works are very few back in the 12th century, and you did not develope literature or developed your language as well until the ottomans left serbia. even the early literature is not known to be serbian because you wrote in cyrilic and it is very close to russian language. They were all biblical translations so really nothing was done in your side as well.. You are acting like a kid. How do you think people corresponded between each other like with the Italians and such?? through letters, and they were usually written in latin or greek. There are numerous letters written by skenderbeg and other princes and landowners to others, and they can all be found. So i guess we knew what a letter and a pen is. As for the intellegence it is not that we are smart because trust me i know koreans, chinese people, japs, mexicans, brazilians, albanians as well who come here and school is like a joke. It is a easier learning system so your claim is not valid because for me it was too easy to finish and I am no way serbia. And yes I was born and raised there and my entire family is very highly educated. Famous politicians who always resisted serbs in all ways possible and serbs couldn;t do shit to them even during the war because they were known people. So why would serbs protests because it is harder to walk over educated people and serbs didn;t want a university open at all in prishtina, even in serbian. You had a plan layed out back in 1930s to kill all albanians from that region. These all public so there is nothing to hide you can even go and find it yourself. This may seem funny to you but kosova was never yours, we were always the majority, and there are great findings being discovered by Harvard University and other western researchers our links closer to the Illyrians. Now fo course you will says kosova is yours, but you know very well you came there later.

Guest		19-May-2007 13:19
And Nikola Tesla was THE GREATEST INVENTOR OF ALL TIME, any website or article or whatever will tell you that, if it wasn't for him I wouldn't be typing to you right now, and NO he did not invent electricity, electricity is energy, it can't be MADE or DESTROYED, only converted into different forms. Nikola Tesla DISCOVERED, not invented, many new forms of electricity, he INVENTED how to convert it and transfer it long distances. Practically every electrical appliance in existance today stems from something Tesla created, that is a fact dude you can't deny it, his discoveries and inventions revolutionised the World and allowed us to progress to the level at which we are at today. So many of his inventions were stolen and patented by others, but now he is credited with the invention of neon lighting, the radio, tesla coil, transmitting electricity over long distances and many many more things. He truly was a genius of science, and there will never be another man like him, so whether he is a Serb or not you should fucking respect him. Sieg Heil

Guest		19-May-2007 13:08
LOL ALBANIA MORE LITERATE THAN SERBIA!!! HAHAHHHAA SORRY BUT UNTIL 15 YEARS AGO YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A PEN AND PAPER WAS DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH WITH YOUR AFRICAN LIVING STANDARDS!! I have gone on long enough giving you the benefit of the doubt but you are just starting to make me laugh now dude! You didn't even have writing until the 20th century that is shameful, even the MAORI savage indiginous peoples of New Zealand got writing before you guys, it is truly pathetic. Have you ever actually been to Albania, not Kosovo which the Serbs built during Jugoslavija, but actual Albania proper? There lies a new level of poverty by European standards, it truly is a forgotten land I swear to God, and you are trying to tell me that Serbs can't read and write to the same level as Albanians... give me a break dude! The only people, and I mean the ONLY people who can't read and write in Serbia is a minority of gypsies, not even all gypsies, most of them are literate, but a small minority of them. My Dad knows two guys who were FAILURES in Sarajevo University, they failed their first year, then they came to England and got MASTERS in Cambridge and laughed their way through it! That is how good Serbian education is! The resources now are relatively poor, but the standard of intelligence is VERY VERY HIGH! I am one of the smartest, if not THE smartest guy in my whole school, but I went to Serbia and I could barely do 1 question from my cousin's maths textbook who is the same age as me! That is real experience, not from some shitty document or article, but from what I have seen and been through! Of course Serbs protested at you Shiptari getting an Albanian university, because Kosovo is in SERBIA, or at least it WAS! So you should learn in fucking SERBIAN. It is an outrage, even in England which is the most liberal and gay pussy country towards other races doesn't allow fucking SOMALI or ARABIC Universities.... this is ENGLAND, so in Government funded schools you learn in ENGLISH! Goodbye.

Guest		18-May-2007 01:18
Literacy : (cia world factbook) ------------------------------------ Albania : total population: 86.5% male: 93.3% female: 79.5% (2003 est.) Kosovo even lower. ------------------------------------ Serbia : total population: 96.4% male: 98.9% female: 94.1% (2002 est.) Note : Albanian language got its written form in the 20'th century .. So albanian, or siptar muslim, or stinky siptar etc.. why do all of you albanians lie at such low level ? You are born to lie, and mate like animals, from one man and one women, comes at least 12 children.. You know that you are the poorest country of Europe.. the filthiest, and the ugliest people are living there.. and muslim too. btw Nikola Tesla invented the kind of electricity used today.(he was Serbian)

the_albanian		17-May-2007 21:49
ahahaha You think you invented electricity?? lol buddy the first battery was made in Persian Times when Serbia didn't exist.. I don't have to thank serbs at all because for 200 years you tried to exterminate us but not successful... I would never thank a serb for an education but Tito who wasn't a serb but he actually never liked serbs.. He gave us education and he let us open our own University which made you guys mad and you went on protests in Belgrade saying "they don't deserve an education..." but the fact is even before our university was open, most albanians were educated in their homes because most of them didn't want to be educated in Serbia. It is sad that you say you are famous in IT when my cousin who is 27 taught serbian professors, austrians, macedonians, and croats how to turn a damn computer on. My uncle who is an electric engineer had to correct the gramar of a serbian. To me that is sad that you cannot even speak your own language correctly. Talk about education, as i said in my previous posts Albania got a higher literacy rate than serbia. Enough said

Guest		17-May-2007 05:57
you talk for usa? you didn't have a map to show where usa is until we gave it to you, you piece of shit! you were riding donkeys and breeding in your stinking huts, you neanderhal! thank the Serbs that you are where you are and that you can speak at all. Serbian geniuses are famous all over the world, especially in the field of IT, what about you siptars?! cleaning our shoes, or just toilets and warehouses?! shut up and hide your ugly protruding jaw, you ape! go fuck your mother, maybe you'll make a new genius for your people!

Guest		16-May-2007 22:52
ahaa I don't know about Europe but in US its actually the serbs who do that.. in every building there is a janitor, or a cleaning person who is a serb. There was even an apprentice show which was shown in Serbia called "Who want to be a maintenance guy in NY." Jay Leno the famous show host of Tonight Show talked about it and said that all serbs were janitors in NYC. Which is very true. It is sad that people as you claim that are so educated to apprentice for a janitor job in US. Sad if you ask me. In other hand, I myself and my family we work what our profession is and not hard labor like you guys do. You talk for europe I will talk for US.

Guest		16-May-2007 14:21
The albanian, Like you talk about yourself, cleaning toilets in NY and in EU. Its a standard albanian JOB .. . Besides smuggling albanian prositutes and narco producing and trafficking.. I have watched tens of movies that represent albanians in such ways :D As for the INFLATION, its true for some period, it lasted, but we had inflation when you haven't had paper money you albanian muslim..

Guest		16-May-2007 05:54
hahahahha, you wish! Go on and write 2000000000 pages, scumbag, YOU will always be what it says there: the poorest, the smelliest, the ape-like, the motherfuckers, the moOOOOst stUUUUpid, the filthiest..... jedi govna!

the_albanian		16-May-2007 04:54
Guest... You will always be a gypsie, you will always be labeled as a criminal, you nation will always have the name as killers whi killed thousands in bosnia in days and kosova, and commited genocide... In movied Serbia will always be the country that is being bombed. Serbia will always be known for its crimes against humanity. It is in books which will be read generations after generations. History is repeating itself. You have taken our land and we will take our land back and this time it is over. You will never achieve your serbia. Tito hated serbs because you people are greedy. When tito died all bosnians, macedonians, albanians, and croats cried because they knew serbs are going to corrupt. Serbia was so weak that inflation was one of the highest in the world for years. You even surpassed the inflation of African Nations. etc.. I shall stop here because I would have to write 200 pages telling you what you are and what will become of you

Guest		15-May-2007 23:27
siptarce, jedi govna!

the_albanian		15-May-2007 21:08
you will always be a gypsie and seen as murderers in the worlds eyes. thats with all my heart to you guest... you will always be a gypsie and you will always be seen as a bad country. You have earned it. Go clean toilets in NYC and work in ditches thoughout europe sincerely the_albanian

Guest		15-May-2007 16:41
HEHE albanians/ shiptari you are really funny, its funny how you try to prove something, with all your energy and heart and you still know you are the poorest the filthiest and the most ugly people in Europe.. ps. you also mate like animals

the_Albanian		15-May-2007 01:36
First of all There have been great migration to different countries especially in Italy... In italy they are full albanian and they are known as Arberesh... In southern Italy Albanian is considered like the second language and in Italy like the third most important language. Jon and James Belushi are known actors. The roles they played were what they were but again they are actors. They made a living out of that.... Eliza Dushku lives with an Albanian consciousness Cana, Kuqi, and many other Albanian players who play for famous Italian, German, French, and English teams... Luan Krasniqi - heavy weight champion Boxer Ferid Muradi - scientist, Nobel laureate Laura Mersini - cosmologist Muhammad Naasiruddeen al-Albaanee - Famous Islamic Scholar Mehmet Ali - viceroy of Egypt (ethnic Albanian) Lekë Dukagjini - Prince of Albania Abbas I of Egypt - Pasha of Egypt Abbas II of Egypt - Khedive of Egypt Farouk of Egypt - King of Egypt Fuad I of Egypt - King of Egypt and Sudan Fuad II of Egypt - King of Egypt Sa'id of Egypt - Viceroy of Egypt Husayn Kamil - Sultan of Egypt and King of The Sudan Vasile Lupu - Prince of Moldavia Carl Ritter von Ghega - builder of the Semmering Railway in Austria Trust me there is a lot more. Singers in Eurovision... (Which you guys plagarised a song)... Models, you are being ignorant... I know serbia has more famous people, and we don't have as many because you serbs never let albanians who lived in yugoslavia to go out to the diaspora, and Albania was under 40 years of isolation. Many famous albanians lived in the diaspora and in all their biographies they are identity is noted to be Albanian and not mixed.

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		14-May-2007 22:48
To Stefan I think that you're exaggerating about Maria.She is Serbian,and Serbia is hers.Surname doesn't have an\ything to do with her love towards our country.Yes,ok,maybe she IS ugly and fat and lesbian,but she has brought more positive things to Serbia than today politicians,who all gave her the applause when she entered the session in National assembly...You can not differentiate people by their phisionomy...Please,she is a represent of Serbia,so please be so kind to have some respect when mentioning her. To Albanian Yeah,you've been there in 1389.so you know who fought with whom...Why don't you post a pictures on this site?? It's not so strange you have famous people.Every country in the world does...Yeah,James Belushi,failed actor who always played idiots,as for almost any other upmentioned(except mother Therese)they are half Albanians. If it wasn't for Nikola Tesla you wouldn' be able to wriote all those bullshits over your computer.Mihajlo Pupin,who helped the construction of first ever telephone.Milutin Milankovic,who has one part of the Moon called by his name,Jovan Cvijic,Josif Pancic,world's famous geographe who found thousands of unknown species of trees and animals...Not to mention saint knez Lazar Hrebeljanovic,Milos Obilic,Marko Kraljevic and so on...Ivo Andric,Nobel prize-winner(Nikola Tesla also got one,but split it up because of his solidarity with Serbian people who were killed bu Croatian ustashi,and also because his innovation of transistor was prescribed to Marconi).Also authors Petar Petrovic Njegos,Borislav Pekic, and Milos Crnjanski,the polymath Djura Jaksic. the famous sports stars Vlade Divac,who played 16years in NBA,Pedja Stojakovic,still plays there and Nemanja Vidic,who plays in Manchester United,Dejan Stankovic,in Internazionale,tennis:Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic(in top 10 of WTA list),Novak Djokovic(6th player in the world).Actor Karl Malden (Mladen Sekulovic) and the actress Mila Jovovic.And all those medieval kings and knights who fucked your Islamic world upside-down.Want me to continue? The biggest problem is that we don't have capable politicians to represent us,all they do is sit in their armchairs and lie people.Yeah,and they call themselves a ''democrats''.Aha,sure...Radicals are the best and they are the most popular and most vote-winning party and it will be like this for many years.Once they get a leadership of this country no one will ever dare to underestimate us.Ha ha,Bujanovac and Presevo,we'll slaughter you all as asoon as you start thinking about it,maybe we can't to that in Kosovo cause International troops protecet you,but we sure can do it in Presevo ,Bujanovac and Medvedja,ok? xa xa looking fwd.to be so! Two days ago,worlds craziest fans of European and World Champion-football team Red Star-Delije(Heroes),organized humanitary concert wich gathered 10.000 people.Torchec were lighted up and nationalist songs were sung in he pauses between the bands.The concert was organized as a support to our Serbian brothers in our sacred land of Kosovo.Next week onether concert is to take part in the hall wich can accomodate around 15.000 people.Serbia is waking up... SA KOSOVA ZORA SVICE, SVICE,SVICE NOVI DAN GRACANICA SVA U SJAJU DOCEKUJE VIDOVDAN! OJ KOSOVO,KOSOVO,ZEMLJO MOJA VOLJENA, ZEMLJO SLAVNIH VITEZOVA LAZARA I MILOSA! SVE DELIJE OD SRBIJE, SVAKO SRCE PONOSNO, KOJI LJUBI SVOJU ZEMLJU, GAZIMESTAN,KOSOVO OJ KOSOVO,KOSOVO,ZEMLJO MOJA VOLJENA, ZEMLJO SLAVNIH VITEZOVA LAZARA I MILOSA! SRBADIJA KLICE CELA NE DAMO TE KOSOVO! TO JE NASE UVEK BILO, OD DAVNINA OSTALO! OJ KOSOVO,KOSOVO,ZEMLJO MOJA VOLJENA, ZEMLJO SLAVNIH VITEZOVA LAZARA I MILOSA! ALBANIA IS HEART OF SERBIA! CP6UJA qO TOKUJA SRBIN ZA SRBINA!!!

the_Albanian		14-May-2007 19:43
i guess you are the only one who can read that. You must be psychologically sick. Mental Retardation... Again you are not talkin to some 3 year old here. You are giving some retarded impression of serbs. Stefan... When Kosova gets its independence it will never go back and you know it. It will never go back to serbian hands it would not be allowed. because: 1. EU troops will be all over the place 2. It will be included in EU before serbia will go there 3. It is internationaly supervised meaning if serbia attacks there will be attacks in serbia from international forces 4. Albanians wouldn't allow that to happen again 5. In 50 years the war will be long forgotten from peoples hearts it will only be on books as a massacre toward innocent people. Trust me when we get our independence there is no returning back because the only way to do that is if you occupy kosova and of course that wouldn't happen, only if serbs were that stupid. Which you guys are already thinking of that as you know very well by the Arkan veterans to go in and occupy. If that happens there is a very high chance that you will lose more land through western power awards for security reasons. If you are a serb and since you consider yourself and your people smart, you would know that would be the baldest move serbs would have ever made in 700 years since their arrival to the balkans.. and you know you would lose that war as well just like all the other ones. Lost against Croatia, Bosnia, Kosova, lost Montenegro, Slovenia, Macedonia, probably in the future Vojvodina, then Bujanovc and Presheva, then the towns between Kosova and Montenegro where Serbia muslim separatists live. You know very well that Serbs lost almost every war they ever had.

Guest		14-May-2007 07:54
YOU ALSO FORGOT TO MENTION THIS, YOU STINKING SIPTAR: Since you claim you read academic sources, how's this for your collection?! „Ja ñàì, êàî øòî âèäèòå è ÷ó¼åòå, îñòàî Ñðáèí è ïðåêî ìîðà, ãäå ñå èñïèòèâàœèìà áàâèì. Òî èñòî òðåáà äà áóäåòå è âè è äà ñâî¼èì çíàœåì è ðàäîì ïîäèæåòå ñëàâó ñðïñòâà ó ñâåòó.“ (Íèêîëà Òåñëà, 2. ¼óíà 1892. ãîäèíå ó ãîâîðó ñòóäåíòèìà Âåëèêå øêîëå ó Áåîãðàäó) „Àêî áóäåì èìàî ñðåžå äà îñòâàðèì áàðåì íåêå îä ñâî¼èõ èäå¼à, òî žå áèòè äîáðî÷èíñòâî çà öåëî ÷îâå÷àíñòâî. Àêî ñå òå ìî¼å íàäå èñïóíå, íà¼ñëàà ìèñàî áèžå ìè òà äà je òî äåëî ¼åäíîã Ñðáèíà.“ (Íèêîëà Òåñëà ó âðåìå ïîñåòå Áåîãðàäó 1892. ãîäèíå).

the_albanian		14-May-2007 05:19
sorry forgot to mention this Yes I am denying that sebia ever conquered Albania. I have never Seen that map in my life. If it was internationally recognized I would have seen that map already. I have done research in a lot of things for the Balkans during my studies and I have never seen that map I could swear to whatever you feel is imporant. If that map cannot be found in a scholarly source than it is not valid. so unless you can argument it to me, then it is not valid. I would have learned that in Kosova if that was true.

the_albanian		14-May-2007 04:28
Stefan Serb First of all there are many famous Albanian from Popes to Architects in Austria to governors in Egypt, and great commanders in Turkey who led armies. Again you are talkin about a 13 million population. That is nothing 13 million can be killed like nothing its a small population. What do you think would happen to us if we didn't keep out identity??? Mother Theresa is Albanian... you may be born in England but you are still a serb so there you go. Gjon Belushi, Eliza Dushku, Ana Oxa, Toni Giolovani (i think that is his last name), Bexhet Pacolli (multi millionare and a businessman throughout europe), Ali Pasha (very well known)... If you were going to say something like that for Mother Therese you cannot say a lot for Nicola Tesla because he lived most of his life in US as you know. He was born in the croatian village Smiljan in LIKA region in croatia... So i guess he is not serbian. He was also born in Austro Hungaria time when those regions were theirs. So you cannot argue on that point of view. We have many famous people... Again don't think I am some 10 year old. I am not stupid... Just because we are currently 80% muslims that doesn;t mean we were never catholics/orthodox. There are strong concentration of Albanian catholics in Northern Albania, Montenegro and Kosova.. Orthodox in Mid to Southern Albania and Southern Macedonia. First of all I will again tell you that the battle of Kosova was not a full serbian effort or were they dominant. You have have created a bliss for yourself by changing history to say that it was entire serbian... when in reality it was a multi ethnic effort. You have been affected by serbian propaganda... This is where our differences come because we recognize that Serbia had an army but there were also Albanian, and Bulgarian Army. You are doing what the Greeks do with their history which is forge it to make it an entirely greek effort in fighting the Turks. Yes I have been to NIS and I have seen the Cekulla and as I remember from an Old serbian guy who I spoke to he said "there are many soldiers there..." never mentioned serbia... now do you really think that Turks would just select serbs and just because that castle is located there means that they are all serbians??? not really... think about it.. Troy that was in today Turkey... now does it mean they were turks or Hellens??? You are saying things in a uneducated way you have a banalistic logic sorry to say that... As for me to say something to Ilir.. well he is an independent person and he can do whatever he feels like doing. "Bon cka te don haver" as for your b-ball progress great luck to you just keep working on your vertical without bending your knees so much... That developes your calves... If you developed that you can dunk very well around the basket because your muscles are trained to take pressure and be used for instant Peace the_albanian

Guest		13-May-2007 17:48
She was an ugly fucking retard can you not see that? I was more proud of the beautiful Serb chick who represented Bosnia. I am not willing to be proud of retarded half Turkish lesbians, so if you are good for you mate. Ana Ivanovic is beautiful and I am proud of her. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves for voting for that fat retard seriously SIEG HEIL

Seneka		13-May-2007 16:50
To ILIR LIKA. Are you totally insane??? Whats with all that bullshit about romanian girls that can be bought with 100 euros in Bucharest? You're probably confusing Romania with some african country. I can assure you that those thing are lies. For example i recently got a PART-TIME job and it pays around 200 euros a month, and you want me to belive that if i can make 200 a month with a part-time job in Bucharest those girls are willing to sell them selfs for 100 ???!!!! Thats got to be one of the grossest lies i have ever heard about Romania. PS. I never heard of people here saying how they hate serbs. I remember that in 1999 my parents cursed our government when news reports, of the bombing in Serbia, were showed on TV. The only sentiment of anymosity that can be detected in romanians are those against russians and probably hungarians. But if we don't like them it does not mean that we hate them. In the past we even had a special alliance with Serbia called the Little Entante, wictch was composed by Romania, Yugoslavia and Slovakia against hungarian irredentism. So stop lieing because romanians always had good relations with the serbs in the past.

Guest		13-May-2007 15:13
You forgot talented, dedicated, authentic.. Shut up stefan 'the serb': you sum up the worst kind of 'patriot'. The only worse kind of those who spit on other nations is the one which spits on its own! Oh, and Ana Ivanovic just won the WTA German Open! Beautiful, clever, smiling - a real Serbian beauty! Drop dead everybody else!!!!! Serbia Rulz!!!!!!

Guest		13-May-2007 12:03
hahahha that DYKE won the Eurovision. She totally sums up Democratic Serbia: -Ugly -Retarded -Homosexual

Guest		11-May-2007 16:37
lol this Albanian guy is so fucking primitive I love him, I could meet him and just laugh and laugh for hours on end, but by the end I would start to feel sorry for him, he is a SELJAK, a simpleton, a primitive and poor little man, I doubt he has ever kissed a woman let alone fucked one. When I read his comments I can't help but picture the Hunchback of Notre Dame, if I was 'the_albanian' I would advise him to stop making a fool of himself and giving and earning Albanians their name as pathetic and uneducated people. Enjoy your time in KOSOVO, for in a matter of time, no more than half a century, it will be back in Serbian hands, history always repeats itself. But hey if you like it so much and it is so amazing, go and live there mate! Surely you can sell your business and multiple houses and live like a King in Albania/Kosovo for the rest of your life, well only until the Serbs come for you :P Bye bye, I will not miss you. I hope you get pulled over by Serb/Croat police and beaten to a pulp, when they see your passport at the border they will laugh at you, fucking Muslim scumbag.

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		11-May-2007 01:46
To Ilir Ha ha,I will be seeing your mother every day and I'm not sad about it...I'm so happy 4 it...Yeah,pray to God i don't see you on our roads in opposite you are a dead dirty Albanian...Albania is ass and Albanians are shit.You want me to send any message to your mother?You don't have to hurry she is here until you're back in UK. Ps Have anyone heard Albanian song on Eurovision?xa xa,every man in the world now has a reason to laugh....Assholes,it would be better 4 u to have played some traditional muslim songs from mosque... UCK I'm pissing on you KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA SERBS FUCK ALBANIAN TERRORISTS ANY TIME ANYWHERE ANYHOW CP6UJA qO TOKUJA,A/\6AHUJA K'O HOKUJA

ILIR LIKA		10-May-2007 22:35
hi to SERBS HEY CHETNIKS I AM GOING TO KOSOVA TOMORROW FROM LONDON I AM TRAVELLING WITH MY CAR THROUGH OUT SERBIA THEN IN KOSOVA AROUND 3AM TONIGHT I WILL START MY JURNEY SO TMW AFTERNON I WILL BE IN AUSTRIA THAN LITTLE BIT A REST THAN AGAIN THROUGH OUT CROATIA THAN SERBIA AND KOSOVA SO I WONT BE IN LONDON FOR A MONTH I AM GOING TO MY MOTHERLAND K O S O V A OH MY GOD JUST WHEN I THINK WHERE I AM GOING THE JOURNEY LOOK VERY LONG I HEVE NOT BEEN THERE FOR 7MONTHS TO LONG ONE THIMK I AM HAPPY THE REASON IS I WONT SEE ANY MONKEY ,JEW,PAKIS,SERBS ONLY ALBANIAN AND ONLY ALBANIAN EVERYTHING ALBANIAN FUCK SERBIA FUCK SERB NATION DEATH TO SERB NATION ALL SERB SUCK MY DICK LONG LIVE GREAT ALBANIA

Guest		10-May-2007 18:10
the_albanian, So you are denying that the Serbian Empire ever encompassed Albania proper within it? Dude I don't have a clue which scholarly sources you can check, all I know is that it is internationally recognised that those are the borders of it. The Turks threw their full force at the Serbs in the Battle of Kosovo, and don't you dare say we didn't have revolts we were the only country that fucking did, why do you think there is a tower in Nis made of the skulls of Serbian men from a rebellion, yeah that shows we were obedient like you guys who took the Turks' fucking faith ISLAM. Muslims don't belong in Europe it is a Christian continent, but not for long it seems if things stay as they are now (4 Muslim countries in Europe - Turkey soon in the EU so Turks can move freely and legally to every country even without a visa!) I am not a nationalist anymore, I was once, but I saw that it did me no good, waste of time, and did only harm, made me hate more and it was a waste of time because I couldn't do anything about anything so why bother. Serbs don't want to support themselves so why should I support them. This is what you call forming a decision, a viewpoint on things, and views often change during teenage years as a youth is sculpted into an adult, with a mature and adult mind. I wouldn't be surprised if you were younger than me dude, with comments about sucking people's dicks and fucking people's Moms etc. These are school playground insults man! So yeah leave the nationalism and shit for the people on the frontlines, to be honest man I don't know what you have to be nationalistic about, I mean what is Albania? Not much to be proud of if you ask me, you could say the same about Serbs but just look at our sporting results in all sports, also look at the people we have produced (Nikola Tesla, Mihailo Pupin etc), so Serbia is small and shitty, but it has produced many World renouned people and teams. Albania has done no such thing (don't argue Mother Teresa because she never spent her life in Albania or even Kosovo, she was born in FYROM in ex-Yugo and went to India, also she wasn't a Muslim like 80% of you guys, but a great Christian). I can almost dunk man, been working on the vert (jumping over a pole repeatedly 3 times a day until I drop) and it's done me a lot of good dude, in a months time I should be slamming like Kobe :P Regards Stefan

Guest		09-May-2007 21:58
Yeah, our Greek brothers did invent homosexuality, although you wouldn't understand it if I explained that it was very different from what you think - and they also invented life as you know it - with all its capital values and higher goals for the whole humanity, and what did you invent? Ha? Except riding on a donkey in the centre of your so-called capital city in the XXI century? You're a disgrace not only to Europe, but to humanity, siptarcino! I'm not wasting my time with you, morone.

the_albanian		09-May-2007 03:24
I am sorry you guys have greeks who are orthodox they invented homosexuality and you are orthodox so yeah you must be gay... Sorry I lick serbian girls not gay serbs. Peace

Guest		08-May-2007 23:11
yeah, my pubes have come out alright, just waiting for you to lick them, ko god da si, a znam da siptar nisi.

the_albanian		08-May-2007 22:26
stefan... please give me the time i said serbia didn;t have an empire??? i said it wasn't significant because it wasn't recognized as a kingdom (which is smaller than an empire) until 1878. Serbia never had Albania... again those maps if they were scholarly they would publish the actual names of the places and not translated like that. Again please refer me to something that can be reached and is crediteable and is a scholar source. I do not believe any of the sources you are giving me (and no you cannot use www.kosovo.com because it is pure propaganda / hate website). Wikipedia is not a scholarly source and I must stress that out. Now you say that ottoman gave that to us.. but it was never your it was ours they drew the borders you guys (serbs) took the land because the western powers gave it to you out of pitty. remember kosova was annexed out of albania and not out of serbia. As for history and better please remember serbs had very few wars against ottomans and they were smashed by them in contrast albania resist them for 25 years straight and not let them advance to the north. You are telling me not to be nationalistic... look at yourself first, that is all i have to say about that. before i even came to this galery i saw everything you argued about with the guy Tirana and Ilir and now me. Think about what you write before you type it because it can be easily disputed. you are contradicting your actions with words.

the_albanian		08-May-2007 22:14
Guest. I will bet you a million dollars I will be able to go there and change something. I will make it the opposite of what it says. if you don't believe me go and check anything you want and tell me to go change it and you will see if it changed. How the hell would an american dude who knows jack about the world be able to know if something is true??? how old aer you man?? have your pubes come out yet or are you still waiting upon them??? As for better you are shit just like russia but with a serbian label... a cipiripi label from krash. just like russians who massacre all its former states and those who oppose their government oyu do the same thing.. I can see the origins and the cruelty...

Guest		08-May-2007 21:59
Stefan, I suggest you stop referring to yourself as Serb. No real Serb would ever say: 'other Serbs are nothing to me, just like ordinary people, etc.." And, man, I'm not 'some guest': I'm very real. Very much alive, very much Serbian and very much resentful of other Serbs who are nothing but a nuisance. You can check all this for yourself when/if you come to Serbia.

Guest		08-May-2007 17:13
My bad I made some typing errors: 1) Mate it is FACT that it existed, it is not up for debate or to be disputed, it is a FACT that it existed and its border were as shown in that map* 2) Just as Kosovo was yours during the second world war, it does not make it yours OK? 3) Well it makes us a little less shit than your people, you are in no way whatsoever ahead of us; in no field or aspect are Albanians superior to Serbs/Yugoslavs, you haven't even had any wars at all since the Second World War My bad

Guest		08-May-2007 17:07
the_albanian I said I didnt consider guest's reviews of Albania as valid, that was my whole point, that I have seen countless bad reviews from REAL PEOPLE who tell honest accounts of their travel experiences, the quotes were from some reviews I read about Albania, not from 'guest'. So wait you are telling me that the Serbian Empire, which is documented worldwide, did not exist? Mate it is FACT that it existed, it is not up for debate or to be disputed, it is a FACT that it existed and that map were its borders, now my original point was just because Albania was part of Serbia in 14th Century does that make Albania ours? Just as Kosovo was yours during the second world war and maybe under your fellow Muslim brothers Turks, it does make it yours ok? What does it make Serbs if you are shit? Well it makes us a little less shit than your people, you are in now way whatsoever ahead of us, in no field or aspect are you superior, even you have had no wars at all since the Second World War (but I don't count it as a war for you because you didn't fight, Albania was on the Axis' side) yet our wartorn pile of ash that is left of Serbia is 10000000x better than you will ever ever have let alone have now and you know it dude, it cannot be argued. This shit is all irrelevant anyway, and I would advise you not to look towards Albania and nationlism etc, that can only pull you down, it can do no good. I stopped being a nationalist a while ago, I just look out for myself now and look after my family of course, apart from that fuck the rest! It's nice to meet other Serbs here, but they are nothing to me but maybe friends or just ordinary people. I have a few Serbs here in my school I say hey whenever I see them but nothing else, they are just any old dudes, nationalism in the diaspora can create nothing good, just hate and problems. SIEG HEIL

Guest		08-May-2007 06:02
Ima nas, ima... pa jeste: sta bi siptar drugo radio? Nego, da ih mi oteramo i odavde i sto dalje od nas u stvarnosti. Ko su oni da se ovde s nama uopste raspravljaju? Glupi su, ruzni i smrde!

Guest		08-May-2007 01:24
Guest, (ima nas par) lepo si mu rekao :D mislim ovo na kraju, jedi govna itd.. Sta bi siptar drugo radio ? :s

Guest		08-May-2007 01:22
Siptar, offcourse we are better than you.. As we are worse than many western countries..

Guest		07-May-2007 20:23
Siptar, if you are who you say you are, then you should know that although wikipedia is not to be taken as an academic source, it's also not a kind of thing that just anybody can edit according to their wishes. There's a strong censorship among contributors and creators, and invalid data is short-lived on it. Maybe you can try posting what you want, but there's no way it can stay there if not checked and double-checked. So, once again, jedi govna i cuti i mars odavde!

the_albanian		07-May-2007 19:42
wikipedia is not a scholarly source. As said before anyone can write in there... I can become a member and delete things there and change them. Anything from wikipedia is not valid. give me scholarly sources done by thrid party educators (not serbian or albanian). Again give me books that can actually be searched and not anything .com pbase is not a scholarly source or a .gov or a .edu... If you are who you say you are and educated you would know that not all web sites can be trusted unless they are research reliable. Pbase is of who knows who. Look at newspapers and researchers they do not base their findings in pbase.com or realtravel.com or any other website you mentioned. So all that typing you did basing your arguments in wikipedia and these other websites are in plain english Bull Shit Give me something educative... you would believe the "reviews" of guest and Mladic as valid.. you are a joke buddy... you say that albanians are shit.. than what makes you??? you are stereotyping... just like you say serbs are greater than albanians i will say the opposite so either way you are attacking me... I can find just about the same flaws in your culture and people just like you can find it on mine... You are acting like a kid along with your fellow serbian patriots here. You are no better than us or are we better than you....

Guest		05-May-2007 20:26
the_albanian, Ok, so I'm asuming you have a basic knowledge of geography, and that you know where your own homeland is, so tell me again that entire Albania wasn't in the Serbian empire in the 14th century: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_empire Nothing else to say dude, it is not a proven fact that is internationally accepted that Albanians have any links whatsoever with Illyrians. So because the Celts populated England first this means that England is Celtic land is it? Because 1000s years ago a people populated this place it would be OK for them to return and pillage and destroy everything then make it theirs to "restore justice" huh? Don't be so stupid, the whole Illyrian shit is something invented to try and make you guys feel better about taking something that is not yours and does not belong to you and never did and never will. And I'm not getting those "neutral travellers opinions" from guest, but from actual neutral travellers, from Western countries, who visit Albania amongst other places and post blogs on their experiences on websites. These websites are called travel sites dude. You can find 100s of them all over the internet, such as www.travelblog.com www.realtravel.com and believe it or not www.pbase.com haha Here are some quotes: "Since I had no power or water in the hotel room, I went for a stroll through downtown Tirana. After dinner we searched for some nightlife. None whatsoever. We walked all over the place, passing countless deep potholes and other sidewalk obstacles. If you ever hear anyone mention Tirana's "river," please understand that is an extreme euphemism. It looks like a dinky canal filled with sewage. And it smells too." "On first inspection Tirana looks like nowhere else on earth. Streets are torn up, buildings half-torn down, rubble is strewn everywhere, huge pot-holes litter the atrocious roads and donkey-carts line the street. It looks part medieval, part nightmare, part architectural joke. As I stood in the late Autumn light, which bathed the city in a supernatural orange glow, I felt like I had strayed onto the set of some apocalyptic science fiction movie, which considering Albania's tragic past, might just be appropriate." Dude it's hard to find a good review man, some of them are embaressing man. But I won't judge you on that, but when you start to tell me this and that about how great Albania and Albanians are and how shit us Serbs are I can't help but laugh. Regards man, and remember what I said, people in the diaspora should all be like friends, because we are all from the Balkans, leave the fighting to the people on the frontlines. Stefan Sieg Heil

Vlad_ROMANIAN		03-May-2007 16:17
for guest: Thank to you too. I suggest to don'tcare about some offensive comments without sense from some isolated boy. A real romanian remmeber when we were friends andwe know that also if we ar enot still friends, we respect very much each others A real romanian know that our two peoples have good relations. Certainly the mistake of our former government who gave our bases to americans for bomb you , destroyed our ancient friendership. That choose was not of romanian people but only of our former government. Hopefully serb peoples know it, also because in Serbia exist a romanian minority who suffered together serbs under NATO'S bomb. Therefore our former government was two dates criminals, because givingour bases to USA permit also to bomb romanians like us who live in Serbia and serbs with whom we have great good relations and with whom we were united by strong friendership. Best regards

Guest		03-May-2007 06:18
Vlad, thanks mate, you really show understanding and you have an open mind. I hope the majority of Romanian people are like you. My friends who went to an intn'l students exchange meeting told me that new generations of Romanians are like you, and they are very positive about our relations.

Vlad ROMANIAN		02-May-2007 15:57
pt Dracula: bine mersi pentru interesul tau in cea ce priveste engleza mea. dar totusi iti sfatuiesc sa iti vezi de treaba ta pentru ca ti asigur ca mie imi merge destul de bine, mai ales acuma. Habar nu am de viata ta si sincer sa fiu ma doare undeva in .............. dar eu stau destul de bine si nu am nevoe de sfaturi. Your considerations about Serbia are without sense. Of course a serb feel himself angry for it and answer with bad considerations about Romania, but the truth is that both countries are strong and proud and also friends and our two peoples also if are not friends like ion the past, still today respect each others. Many serbs come in Romania for work and study and they are very well received by us and many romanians go in Serbia for businnes or work, and the situations I can guarantee is good. Maybe I can't expime mysel fin good english my dear, but I see that you know Balkan situation very very few.

Guest		02-May-2007 12:23
No matter what you write here siptari (actual its worse than gipsy), Albania is still the poorest country in Europe...

Guest		02-May-2007 12:22
Dracul, funny that people in Serbia ask the same question: is it safe to travel through Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova, etc. You know, we hear so many reported cases of theft, rape, car theft and abuse that we're just not sure how to behave. Theory doesn't always reflect the actual state of things.

Dracula		02-May-2007 02:53
Hello there, This message is for all Romanians Guys, I'm a Romanian too, born in Banat and raised in Transylvania. I usually don't enter any political or historycal debates, and avoid as much as possible the matter. Actually I have a question, and I don't want to intrude in your so called debate on the European history or else, I leave this to you as I see that's on good hands. Back to business...I mean to my question: It is safe to travel in Slovenia and Croatia, even Serbia? I'm asking this because I don't live on the European continent for quite a while, and last time I was in Europe was 5 years ago. Now... I let you go back to your debates (I'm being nice, let's call them fights) Before 1989 every Romanian was a specialist in footbal (soccer) and fixing a Dacia, now we are specialists in European history and world politics. Goodluck in your endeaveour. Dracula P.S Pentru Vlad Mai nene, mai pune mina pe o carte de engleza, ca te exprimi ca un copil de 5 ani, si cu compunerea stai rau de tot. Acuma cu ura fata de semeni, nu conteaza culoarea, religia si altele, vad ca stai bine . Pacat...da esti tinar si mai ai sanse sa-ti revii.

Guest		02-May-2007 00:10
Ratko Mladic... "If you want to bet me,I say in advance that you lost your money.And as for the girls,yeah right,go fuck and then change your hand…I bet you are so ugly,even the most horrible looking girl wouldn’t approach you.Go fuck your cousins in bordel.ha ha " I don't get the point of your answer. I would never want to be ratko mladic because he is a a criminal who massacred babies. Sorry I do not wish to be you and you won my money on that. Conrats for admiting you are a criminal and a terrorist wanted by the EU and US. Go hide your ass in Russia and China. Again you are calling me ugly but your women approach me. because in reality i don't even talk politics out of nowhere. But i will bet you any money that I could get almost any girl before you could. And sorry i am not serbian to have intercourse with my cousins. We actually value family unline serbs who are willing to kill their own mothers and fathers just to show that "albanians" did it

Guest		02-May-2007 00:02
Stefan Serb CLAIM: “First of all, 120 years ago Serbia, and Albania, amongst other countries, were in the Ottoman Empire. Dude, you are telling me Serbia stole Albanian land 120 years ago? What the fuck man do you even know what The Battle of Kosovo is? That is the major victorious event in Turkish history on the Balkans, where the brave Serbian soldiers and knights fell to an Army far greater in numbers, superior in equipment and training and from a greater country. This battle took place in KOSOVO, funnily enough, in 1389, and was between Serbian forces and Turkish forces. All the monasteries in Kosovo were built before this period, so that shows that Kosovo was Serbian for as far back as the 8th century, and don't come up with all that bullshit how the monasteries aren't real or how they were converted from Albanian ones, spare yourself the crap. You can't argue a lie“ RESPOSE: Yes we were under ottoman rule, but remember the serbs were not the only people fighting there or that you were the majority of the soldiers. The kingdom of Serbia wasn’t even that significant or was it going to be in the future with the stronger kingdoms. The “brave night” which I am guessing you are referring to MR. Obilic, there is a controversy of his origin whether he was Albanian or Serbian. You claim he was Serbian we claim he was Albanian. But you must remember that the battle of Kosova was not an entire Serbian effort. There were many nations involved in this such as the croats, Bosnians, Bulgarians, Hungarians, serbs and albanains. There was no dominating army. This is Serbian propaganda. You are stealing history just like the greeks did with the Epirus. In 1918 Kosova was given to Serbia by the western powers but it never was a part of Serbia. You just claim it like the Israelites did to the Palestinians. You know the story I don’t need to describe it. And this can be argues by many many historian scholars, and other pHd professors which I know personally. And one fact… the “kingdom of Serbia” was never recognized until 1878.. so how can the kingdom be so big in the 14th century and never be recognized as one…. Weird huh? CLAIM: “The only argument you have is that Albanians are Illyrians, and they occupied almost the entire Balkans before Jesus was even born, and that is the shittiest and most worthless argument ever, because firstly, the historical records from that period are very very poor and totally inadequate to determine whether today's Albanians are in fact descended from Illyrians, and next, it is ridiculous to claim land is yours because of something that happened before Christ even walked the Earth and so it is OK for you idiots, over 2000 years later, to "restore justice" hahaha don't make me laugh. “ RESPONSE: First, you must look into the maps of Indo-european migrations. You will see that Illyrians did move into the south western part of the Balkan peninsula which is today Albania, Kosova, and western Macedonia. Now are you telling me that this large migration disappeared? That is impossible because first in many accounts of Alexander the great’s traveling it is recorded of soldiers from northern lands of Macedonia and Dardania. Which is today Kosova and Albania. Many scholars argue that Albanians have always been in a war with foreign powers hence why all our historical photos are with arms in our hands. Second one of your shittiest claims is that you guys have always been in Kosova. That is even shittier than damn moses split the red sea. That is how ambiguous your claims are. There are numerous historical documents stating that the people of Illyrian, many scholars and researchers say that Illyrians are Albanians, lived in these lands. That is why Ulpiana exists. CLAIM: “What I also don't understand is how Illyrians, who were one of the most advanced people and empire in those times, could become so shit as to actually go backwards in development, because dude in Albania there is a different kind of poverty unknown to the rest of Europe, it is so bad that some areas are worse than Africa. Neutral travellers have compared it to the Africa of Europe and some have said "it is worse than Africa, I never saw a capital city so dirty and littered in Africa as Tirana is." It is your only city, and don't boast about Pristina being better, because Serbs fucking built it OK asshole.” RESPONSE: People who said it is worst that Africa is GUEST… so you must call him a neutral traveler.. my ass man be real now… you sound like a 10 year old with that statement. Prishtina was not build by serbs. Prishtina had 2 serb mayors and that was from 1989-1999. All the previous mayors of prishtina were Albanians. There are all the famous Albanian mayors of prishtina who layed the plan which is why it is how it is now. All the mayors of Prishtina and Kosova was ruled by the high class of intellectuals of Gjakova or (as you guys call it Djakovica) and you must trust me gjakova is a 99% Albanian city. And the rest of the population were .5% serbs who lived in rural areas, and .5 gypsies who had to eat grass to survive. CLAIM: “The Serbian Empire once contained ALL of Albania and half of Greece, does that make Albania ours? No it fucking doesn't, Albania is yours, keep it, we won't take it, but don't take what is not yours then boast about a "Greater Albania", because Albania is the worst country in Europe in terms of everything, empires are supposed to spread their superiority, not spread their fucking misery like you are doing. Every country in the Balkans and in Europe is better than yours, so don't spread your miserable pathetic country so you can make other places worse.” RESPONSE: This is another pathetic claim. Again you sound like a 10 year old trying to protect yourself. Tell me what year did Serbia have the entire Balkans up to half of Greece??? This is a fact that I Have never heard of. Did you claim the entire Austro-Hungarian empire as well??? Have you seen the ancient maps of Illyria?? Serbs never had control of the Balkans because think about it kid… Serbs arrived in the Balkans in 13th century. The turks took over 14th century almost half of Balkans and 15th century took over almost the entire Balkans. CLAIM: “Yes Hitler did not like Slavs, it is true, and we caused him BIGGGG problems especially Russians and to a lesser extent in the Balkans Serbs. Slavs were a problem for him because he wanted to expand Germany to the East and he knew Slavs would not give up easily like Western Europe. However, Albanians are not even significant enough to be mentionned, OK? Hitler didn't care about Albanians, nobody does, you are not even worth mentionning, please don't make me laugh that you are Aryan, it really makes me sad and feel sorry for you when I see you actually trying to convince us and even yourself that you are superior to Serbs. Look at Albania and look at Serbia, HELLO?” RESPONSE: Hitler did hate slavs and that is why he killed so many of them. Serbs were no threat because he came into Serbia like nothing. Russians were smashed by the germans. But again you are protecting your “Mother Russia.” Again I will tell you Albanians were not affected by the germans but by the Italians. As I said before the germans did not kill Albanians. You are ignoring the fact that Hitler did not let germans kill Albanians. Slavs are jewish in a way that is why he did not care and just killed you. We have a special identity not tied with the turks or jews or slavs. Germans killed many greeks which is not that big of a population… so think about it why did he skip Albania??? We were their allies indirectly. Italians were there Germans + Italians were one…

ILIR LIKA		01-May-2007 23:44
TO SERBS about kosova battle 1389 all balkan people fight against turkish invasion and the truth is more albanian fighter were there than serbs fighter thats is true the history tells one think is true yes your princ was in charche of the battle of kosova liek wesly clark was on charge when serbia was bombed juring nato bombing but there wer french aircraft german aircraft italian aircraft american aircraft B52 etc etc so now shell we say america won this war hellllllooooooo no no cz all europe was bombing serbia so same thing with battle of kosova only think your princ was in charge of course at the time in year 1389 there were serbian churches but howmany churches only three one in graqanica one in peja one in deqan cz serbs were minority refuge from far north serbia we albanian give them hospitality let them build churches and 1200 stefan nemanja brought serbs from serbia in kosova colonisation those are those serbs they build churches juring stefan nemanja beafore 1200 in kosova there were none serbs up to nis even today is in serbia serbs were living just around banat and around belgrade and bosnia but not in south they moved late in 1200 you know millosh kopiliqi as you serbs declared as your hero he is even albanian the one who killed sultan so millosh kopiliqi he is albanian but there are facts the world knows who was kopiliqi he was from drenica walley etcetc i did mention and i am still waiting for the answer from you chetniks about 1878 juring berlin coference half of albanian land they give it to serbia the one i mention below can someone answer me about that you shity race we ALBANIAN WE ARE ARIAN RACE AND PROUD TO BE ANCESTOR OF ILLYRIAN PEOPLE KOSOVA is gone forever from serbs just put it in your mind the last think we are going to do to serbs we are going to claim more land within serbia cz 1878 serbia took from us all this land PROKUPLJE ,NIS,JABLLANICA,TOPLICA ,ETC we still got thinks to sort out with you filthy serbs our day is coming soon i my sellf my great great grandfather come from TOPLICA from willage called TMAVA even today exsist with same name is near the willage berbatovac my my great great granfather come to KOSOVA in year 1880 we still got document of our land in toplica which is in writting in turkish language cz at the time was otoman empire we got a good proof not only my family but a million albanian family they got those documents i my self i am a 4th generation in KOSOVA even i born in KOSOVA my heart still cry for that land of my ancestors dont worry we will take them soon one day you serbs will have only pashalluk of beograd you dont belong here in balkan pls go back to your gypsy tribe next to ural sea next to mongol people death to serb nation death to serb nation HITLER SAID AS LONG AS THEY ARE JEW PEOPLE ,SLAVIC PEOPLE,GYPSY PEOPLE ,AND BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WORLD NEVER WILL BE IN PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS TRUE LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA UNION WITH KOSOVA

Guest		01-May-2007 21:20
Shiptar said:I WILL BE IN WIP BAR - what will you be WIPING in the WIP bar, you illiterate son of a bitch?! Somebody's ass, cause it's the only job anybody will ever give you. You're stuuuuupid, man, face it and go eat your shiptar shit. You'll be better off than embarrassing yourself here with your imbecile statements.

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		01-May-2007 21:20
To Albanian If you want to bet me,I say in advance that you lost your money.And as for the girls,yeah right,go fuck and then change your hand…I bet you are so ugly,even the most horrible looking girl wouldn’t approach you.Go fuck your cousins in bordel.ha ha To Ilir I will reply to your bullshits after couple of days,I don't have much time at the moment.'till then fuck you,SERBIA RULES Best regards to Romanian friends and Stefan from UK KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA ORTHODOX SERBIA IS ETERNAL 1389 1389 1389 1389 Mladic Ratko sece kratko!!!!!

jeca		01-May-2007 11:47
SERBIA IS BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY and many people jealous!!!!

Guest		01-May-2007 01:54
No matter what you write here, Albania is still the poorest country in Europe...

ILIR LIKA		30-Apr-2007 23:28
TO STEFAN HA HA HA HA THE MESAGE I POSTED BELOW IS FOR SERBS NOT FOR SON OF FRENCH BITCH AND SERB GYPSY YOU KNOW SHIT ABOUT BALKAN I AM 35 YEAR OLD MOST OPF MY LIVE I GROW UP IN BALKAN I KNOW BALAKN I EVEN SERVE THREE WAR BOSNIAN WAR AS YUGOSLAV SOLDIER AND CROATIAN WAR AS YUGOSLAV SOLDIER BUT BOTH WARS I DID DESERT IT THAN THIRD WAR I WAS A KLA SOLDIER STEFAN GO AND PLAY PLAYSTATION 3 I HOPE YOUR FATHER BOUGHT IT TO YOU YOU ARE A JUNKY COUNCIL ESTATE KID YOU SCUMBAG THE MESAGE BELOW IS FOR POOR SERB GYPSY NOT FOR YOU NEVER MIND MR STEFAN BE A GOOD BOY CARY ON WITH YOUR SPORT AND SCHOOL RESPECT ENGLISH GOVERMENT END OF THE DAY YOUR LIFE IS IN THE UK GROW UP MATE COME TO EMMBASSY CLUB IN BURLINGTON STREET ,MAYFAIR , ONE FRIDAY NIGHT OR SATURDAY ASK ANY OF DORMAN IN FRONT DOOR ABOUT ME I WILL BE IN WIP BAR YOU CAN BE MY GUEST I AM SERIOUS BESA BES I AM SHQIPTAR I WONT LET YOU DOWN I WILL RESPECT YOU EVEN DO YOU ARE TO YOUNG FOR ME THAN WE CAN TALK FACE TO FACE ABOUT POLITICS FOR BALKAN TAKE CARE OF YOUR SELF BE A MAN LOOK FOR YOUR FUTURE HERE IN UK CZ YOU DONT BELONG TO BALKAN YOPUR MENTALITY IS TYPICAL ENGLISH MENTALITY TYPICAL YOUNG JUNKY BRAVE BOY BLA BLA BLA ONCE SOMEONE SHOUT AT YOU YOU WILL START TO CRY BALKAN PEOPLE ARE CRAZY PEOPLE MATE DEATH TO SERB NATION LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA

Guest		30-Apr-2007 22:22
dude get a girlfriend or can you not get one because of your disfigured face? The whole World knows Kosovo is historically Serbian, watch any BBC or CNN report, they are even on your fucking side, but they will say historically Kosovo is the heart of Serbia but Albanians make up the majority population today. That's all you've got niggers, and now you are telling me Bosnia and Krajina is ours but Kosovo is not? Motherfucker they are all ours we have 13 million people in the Balkans and you Shiptars with your 5 million total population you want to have a country the same size as ours, no mate. Your day is already here, once you get Kosovo that will be your day, don't be too greedy because Kosovo will come back in the near future Mr Abdul you Muslim cunt and you are telling me you are Aryan you fucking Muslims terrorist KLA militiaman funded by Bin Laden you piece of shit.

ILIR LIKA		30-Apr-2007 21:56
TO SERBS about kosova battle 1389 all balkan people fight against turkish invasion and the truth is more albanian fighter were there than serbs fighter thats is true the history tells one think is true yes your princ was in charche of the battle of kosova liek wesly clark was on charge when serbia was bombed juring nato bombing but there wer french aircraft german aircraft italian aircraft american aircraft B52 etc etc so now shell we say america won this war hellllllooooooo no no cz all europe was bombing serbia so same thing with battle of kosova only think your princ was in charge of course at the time in year 1389 there were serbian churches but howmany churches only three one in graqanica one in peja one in deqan cz serbs were minority refuge from far north serbia we albanian give them hospitality let them build churches and 1200 stefan nemanja brought serbs from serbia in kosova colonisation those are those serbs they build churches juring stefan nemanja beafore 1200 in kosova there were none serbs up to nis even today is in serbia serbs were living just around banat and around belgrade and bosnia but not in south they moved late in 1200 you know millosh kopiliqi as you serbs declared as your hero he is even albanian the one who killed sultan so millosh kopiliqi he is albanian but there are facts the world knows who was kopiliqi he was from drenica walley etcetc i did mention and i am still waiting for the answer from you chetniks about 1878 juring berlin coference half of albanian land they give it to serbia the one i mention below can someone answer me about that you shity race we ALBANIAN WE ARE ARIAN RACE AND PROUD TO BE ANCESTOR OF ILLYRIAN PEOPLE KOSOVA is gone forever from serbs just put it in your mind the last think we are going to do to serbs we are going to claim more land within serbia cz 1878 serbia took from us all this land PROKUPLJE ,NIS,JABLLANICA,TOPLICA ,ETC we still got thinks to sort out with you filthy serbs our day is coming soon i my sellf my great great grandfather come from TOPLICA from willage called TMAVA even today exsist with same name is near the willage berbatovac my my great great granfather come to KOSOVA in year 1880 we still got document of our land in toplica which is in writting in turkish language cz at the time was otoman empire we got a good proof not only my family but a million albanian family they got those documents i my self i am a 4th generation in KOSOVA even i born in KOSOVA my heart still cry for that land of my ancestors dont worry we will take them soon one day you serbs will have only pashalluk of beograd you dont belong here in balkan pls go back to your gypsy tribe next to ural sea next to mongol people death to serb nation death to serb nation HITLER SAID AS LONG AS THEY ARE JEW PEOPLE ,SLAVIC PEOPLE,GYPSY PEOPLE ,AND BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WORLD NEVER WILL BE IN PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS TRUE LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA UNION WITH KOSOVA

ILIR LIKA		30-Apr-2007 21:56
TO SERBS about kosova battle 1389 all balkan people fight against turkish invasion and the truth is more albanian fighter were there than serbs fighter thats is true the history tells one think is true yes your princ was in charche of the battle of kosova liek wesly clark was on charge when serbia was bombed juring nato bombing but there wer french aircraft german aircraft italian aircraft american aircraft B52 etc etc so now shell we say america won this war hellllllooooooo no no cz all europe was bombing serbia so same thing with battle of kosova only think your princ was in charge of course at the time in year 1389 there were serbian churches but howmany churches only three one in graqanica one in peja one in deqan cz serbs were minority refuge from far north serbia we albanian give them hospitality let them build churches and 1200 stefan nemanja brought serbs from serbia in kosova colonisation those are those serbs they build churches juring stefan nemanja beafore 1200 in kosova there were none serbs up to nis even today is in serbia serbs were living just around banat and around belgrade and bosnia but not in south they moved late in 1200 you know millosh kopiliqi as you serbs declared as your hero he is even albanian the one who killed sultan so millosh kopiliqi he is albanian but there are facts the world knows who was kopiliqi he was from drenica walley etcetc i did mention and i am still waiting for the answer from you chetniks about 1878 juring berlin coference half of albanian land they give it to serbia the one i mention below can someone answer me about that you shity race we ALBANIAN WE ARE ARIAN RACE AND PROUD TO BE ANCESTOR OF ILLYRIAN PEOPLE KOSOVA is gone forever from serbs just put it in your mind the last think we are going to do to serbs we are going to claim more land within serbia cz 1878 serbia took from us all this land PROKUPLJE ,NIS,JABLLANICA,TOPLICA ,ETC we still got thinks to sort out with you filthy serbs our day is coming soon i my sellf my great great grandfather come from TOPLICA from willage called TMAVA even today exsist with same name is near the willage berbatovac my my great great granfather come to KOSOVA in year 1880 we still got document of our land in toplica which is in writting in turkish language cz at the time was otoman empire we got a good proof not only my family but a million albanian family they got those documents i my self i am a 4th generation in KOSOVA even i born in KOSOVA my heart still cry for that land of my ancestors dont worry we will take them soon one day you serbs will have only pashalluk of beograd you dont belong here in balkan pls go back to your gypsy tribe next to ural sea next to mongol people death to serb nation death to serb nation HITLER SAID AS LONG AS THEY ARE JEW PEOPLE ,SLAVIC PEOPLE,GYPSY PEOPLE ,AND BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WORLD NEVER WILL BE IN PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS TRUE LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA UNION WITH KOSOVA

ILIR LIKA		30-Apr-2007 21:53
TO SERBS about kosova battle 1389 all balkan people fight against turkish invasion and the truth is more albanian fighter were there than serbs fighter thats is true the history tells one think is true yes your princ was in charche of the battle of kosova liek wesly clark was on charge when serbia was bombed juring nato bombing but there wer french aircraft german aircraft italian aircraft american aircraft B52 etc etc so now shell we say america won this war hellllllooooooo no no cz all europe was bombing serbia so same thing with battle of kosova only think your princ was in charge of course at the time in year 1389 there were serbian churches but howmany churches only three one in graqanica one in peja one in deqan cz serbs were minority refuge from far north serbia we albanian give them hospitality let them build churches and 1200 stefan nemanja brought serbs from serbia in kosova colonisation those are those serbs they build churches juring stefan nemanja beafore 1200 in kosova there were none serbs up to nis even today is in serbia serbs were living just around banat and around belgrade and bosnia but not in south they moved late in 1200 you know millosh kopiliqi as you serbs declared as your hero he is even albanian the one who killed sultan so millosh kopiliqi he is albanian but there are facts the world knows who was kopiliqi he was from drenica walley etcetc i did mention and i am still waiting for the answer from you chetniks about 1878 juring berlin coference half of albanian land they give it to serbia the one i mention below can someone answer me about that you shity race we ALBANIAN WE ARE ARIAN RACE AND PROUD TO BE ANCESTOR OF ILLYRIAN PEOPLE KOSOVA is gone forever from serbs just put it in your mind the last think we are going to do to serbs we are going to claim more land within serbia cz 1878 serbia took from us all this land PROKUPLJE ,NIS,JABLLANICA,TOPLICA ,ETC we still got thinks to sort out with you filthy serbs our day is coming soon i my sellf my great great grandfather come from TOPLICA from willage called TMAVA even today exsist with same name is near the willage berbatovac my my great great granfather come to KOSOVA in year 1880 we still got document of our land in toplica which is in writting in turkish language cz at the time was otoman empire we got a good proof not only my family but a million albanian family they got those documents i my self i am a 4th generation in KOSOVA even i born in KOSOVA my heart still cry for that land of my ancestors dont worry we will take them soon one day you serbs will have only pashalluk of beograd you dont belong here in balkan pls go back to your gypsy tribe next to ural sea next to mongol people death to serb nation death to serb nation HITLER SAID AS LONG AS THEY ARE JEW PEOPLE ,SLAVIC PEOPLE,GYPSY PEOPLE ,AND BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WORLD NEVER WILL BE IN PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS TRUE LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA UNION WITH KOSOVA

Guest		30-Apr-2007 20:03
Ilir Lika, I will reply to your bullshit. I have just as much right to discuss this topic as you, because although I don't live in the Balkans (nor do you actually mate), I know a lot regarding this area of the World and particularly recent history. I have just as much of a right to argue as you because this is an issue regarding events that took place before anyone in this forum was born, so living in the Balkans or not makes no difference. First of all, 120 years ago Serbia, and Albania, amongst other countries, were in the Ottoman Empire. Dude, you are telling me Serbia stole Albanian land 120 years ago? What the fuck man do you even know what The Battle of Kosovo is? That is the major victorious event in Turkish history on the Balkans, where the brave Serbian soldiers and knights fell to an Army far greater in numbers, superior in equipment and training and from a greater country. This battle took place in KOSOVO, funnily enough, in 1389, and was between Serbian forces and Turkish forces. All the monasteries in Kosovo were built before this period, so that shows that Kosovo was Serbian for as far back as the 8th century, and don't come up with all that bullshit how the monasteries aren't real or how they were converted from Albanian ones, spare yourself the crap. You can't argue a lie. The only argument you have is that Albanians are Illyrians, and they occupied almost the entire Balkans before Jesus was even born, and that is the shittiest and most worthless argument ever, because firstly, the historical records from that period are very very poor and totally inadequate to determine whether today's Albanians are in fact descended from Illyrians, and next, it is ridiculous to claim land is yours because of something that happened before Christ even walked the Earth and so it is OK for you idiots, over 2000 years later, to "restore justice" hahaha don't make me laugh. What I also don't understand is how Illyrians, who were one of the most advanced people and empire in those times, could become so shit as to actually go backwards in development, because dude in Albania there is a different kind of poverty unknown to the rest of Europe, it is so bad that some areas are worse than Africa. Neutral travellers have compared it to the Africa of Europe and some have said "it is worse than Africa, I never saw a capital city so dirty and littered in Africa as Tirana is." It is your only city, and don't boast about Pristina being better, because Serbs fucking built it OK asshole. The Serbian Empire once contained ALL of Albania and half of Greece, does that make Albania ours? No it fucking doesn't, Albania is yours, keep it, we won't take it, but don't take what is not yours then boast about a "Greater Albania", because Albania is the worst country in Europe in terms of everything, empires are supposed to spread their superiority, not spread their fucking misery like you are doing. Every country in the Balkans and in Europe is better than yours, so don't spread your miserable pathetic country so you can make other places worse. That is why Albanians are EXACTLY the same as blacks, not Serbs, because here in London wherever there is a large black or Paki community the houses fall in value, and the area is shit, because there is more street crime, higher unemployment, illiteracy, and killings, same like Albanians, Kosovo was ALWAYS better than it is now under Albanian control, now it is becoming like Albania proper. Yes Hitler did not like Slavs, it is true, and we caused him BIGGGG problems especially Russians and to a lesser extent in the Balkans Serbs. Slavs were a problem for him because he wanted to expand Germany to the East and he knew Slavs would not give up easily like Western Europe. However, Albanians are not even significant enough to be mentionned, OK? Hitler didn't care about Albanians, nobody does, you are not even worth mentionning, please don't make me laugh that you are Aryan, it really makes me sad and feel sorry for you when I see you actually trying to convince us and even yourself that you are superior to Serbs. Look at Albania and look at Serbia, HELLO? That is my reply for now, I hope I have answered your bullshit and you will stop spamming like a little child, I am starting to doubt that you are an adult at all, let alone capable of managing a business you immature little retard. Stefan Sieg Heil!

ILIR LIKA		30-Apr-2007 18:16
I DID POST IT THIS EARLY BUT NO SERB SHIT REPLY TO ME ABOUT THAT CZ THIS IS A FACT IT DID NOT HAPPEND 2000YEARS IT DD NOT HAPPEND 1000 YEARS AGO IT DID NOT HAPPEND 500 YEARS AGO IT DID NOT HAPPEND 300 YEARS AGO IT DID NOT HAPPEND 200 YEARS AGO BUT IT DID HAPPEND 120 YEARS AGO ALL WORLD KNOW THAT YOU TOOK OUR LAND WHICJ IS WITHIN SERBIA NOW AND YOU SHITY SERB PEOPLE SAYIN KOSOVA THIS AND THAT KOSOVA THIS AND THIS # SO READ IT AND REPLY TO ME to SERBS SHITY RACE TO MLADICH of course you not going to have argument with us albanian cz you know the fact KOSOVA is ALBANIAN land no coment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hey ratko mladich chetnik go and fuck your mother pussy or do DNA test maybe your father is albanian all serb womens they got fucked by us albanian juring YUGOSLAVIA and serbia time thats way you hate albanian KOSOVA is gone forever from serbs just put it in your mind the last think we are going to do to serbs we are going to claim more land within serbia cz 1878 serbia took from us all this land PROKUPLJE ,NIS,JABLLANICA,TOPLICA ,ETC we still got thinks to sort out with you filthy serbs our day is coming soon i my sellf my great great grandfather come from TOPLICA from willage called TMAVA even today exsist with same name is near the willage berbatovac my my great great granfather come to KOSOVA in year 1880 we still got document of our land in toplica which is in writting in turkish language cz at the time was otoman empire we got a good proof not only my family but a million albanian family they got those documents i my self i am a 4th generation in KOSOVA even i born in KOSOVA my heart still cry for that land of my ancestors dont worry we will take them soon one day you serbs will have only pashalluk of beograd you dont belong here in balkan pls go back to your gypsy tribe next to ural sea next to mongol people death to serb nation death to serb nation HITLER SAID AS LONG AS THEY ARE JEW PEOPLE ,SLAVIC PEOPLE,GYPSY PEOPLE ,AND BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WORLD NEVER WILL BE IN PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS TRUE LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA UNION WITH KOSOVA

the_albanian		30-Apr-2007 02:16
Stefan Serb Of course but you don't know me and don't know what I look like or what I do. So you and guest have no right to really tell me if I have ever touched a serbian girl. And I will straight up honest with you... I have dated Serbian girls, there is a considered amount where i live and they don't even care if I am Albanian. And believe me they were born in Serbia because they were all eschange students in the US... they never got along with americans but they got along with me just fine and they had fun... I don't know what mentality you have in UK but in US they really don't look because you are practically stereotyping me (which if you live in diaspora you would adopt in not doing that)... as for the trade... i know there are albanian women but as i claimed again there are women from every eastern european country and serbia is not an exeption... you wouldn't know where they are from unless you went to those bars to get some of those women.... as for sports they are only good at soccer, that is their only good sport as their premied leagues is internationally rated.. their partiicpation in UEFA and Champions league is great... for other sports.. i really don't follow them because I don;t have much time to do that... peace out

Guest		30-Apr-2007 01:34
Albania is still the poorest country in the northern hemisphere..

ILIR LIKA		30-Apr-2007 00:20
I DID POST IT THIS EARLY BUT NO SERB SHIT REPLY TO ME ABOUT THAT CZ THIS IS A FACT IT DID NOT HAPPEND 2000YEARS IT DD NOT HAPPEND 1000 YEARS AGO IT DID NOT HAPPEND 500 YEARS AGO IT DID NOT HAPPEND 300 YEARS AGO IT DID NOT HAPPEND 200 YEARS AGO BUT IT DID HAPPEND 120 YEARS AGO ALL WORLD KNOW THAT YOU TOOK OUR LAND WHICJ IS WITHIN SERBIA NOW AND YOU SHITY SERB PEOPLE SAYIN KOSOVA THIS AND THAT KOSOVA THIS AND THIS # SO READ IT AND REPLY TO ME to SERBS SHITY RACE TO MLADICH of course you not going to have argument with us albanian cz you know the fact KOSOVA is ALBANIAN land no coment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hey ratko mladich chetnik go and fuck your mother pussy or do DNA test maybe your father is albanian all serb womens they got fucked by us albanian juring YUGOSLAVIA and serbia time thats way you hate albanian KOSOVA is gone forever from serbs just put it in your mind the last think we are going to do to serbs we are going to claim more land within serbia cz 1878 serbia took from us all this land PROKUPLJE ,NIS,JABLLANICA,TOPLICA ,ETC we still got thinks to sort out with you filthy serbs our day is coming soon i my sellf my great great grandfather come from TOPLICA from willage called TMAVA even today exsist with same name is near the willage berbatovac my my great great granfather come to KOSOVA in year 1880 we still got document of our land in toplica which is in writting in turkish language cz at the time was otoman empire we got a good proof not only my family but a million albanian family they got those documents i my self i am a 4th generation in KOSOVA even i born in KOSOVA my heart still cry for that land of my ancestors dont worry we will take them soon one day you serbs will have only pashalluk of beograd you dont belong here in balkan pls go back to your gypsy tribe next to ural sea next to mongol people death to serb nation death to serb nation HITLER SAID AS LONG AS THEY ARE JEW PEOPLE ,SLAVIC PEOPLE,GYPSY PEOPLE ,AND BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WORLD NEVER WILL BE IN PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS TRUE LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA UNION WITH KOSOVA

ILIR LIKA		30-Apr-2007 00:19
I DID POST IT THIS EARLY BUT NO SERB SHIT REPLY TO ME ABOUT THAT CZ THIS IS A FACT IT DID NOT HAPPEND 2000YEARS IT DD NOT HAPPEND 1000 YEARS AGO IT DID NOT HAPPEND 500 YEARS AGO IT DID NOT HAPPEND 300 YEARS AGO IT DID NOT HAPPEND 200 YEARS AGO BUT IT DID HAPPEND 120 YEARS AGO ALL WORLD KNOW THAT YOU TOOK OUR LAND WHICJ IS WITHIN SERBIA NOW AND YOU SHITY SERB PEOPLE SAYIN KOSOVA THIS AND THAT KOSOVA THIS AND THIS # SO READ IT AND REPLY TO ME to SERBS SHITY RACE TO MLADICH of course you not going to have argument with us albanian cz you know the fact KOSOVA is ALBANIAN land no coment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hey ratko mladich chetnik go and fuck your mother pussy or do DNA test maybe your father is albanian all serb womens they got fucked by us albanian juring YUGOSLAVIA and serbia time thats way you hate albanian KOSOVA is gone forever from serbs just put it in your mind the last think we are going to do to serbs we are going to claim more land within serbia cz 1878 serbia took from us all this land PROKUPLJE ,NIS,JABLLANICA,TOPLICA ,ETC we still got thinks to sort out with you filthy serbs our day is coming soon i my sellf my great great grandfather come from TOPLICA from willage called TMAVA even today exsist with same name is near the willage berbatovac my my great great granfather come to KOSOVA in year 1880 we still got document of our land in toplica which is in writting in turkish language cz at the time was otoman empire we got a good proof not only my family but a million albanian family they got those documents i my self i am a 4th generation in KOSOVA even i born in KOSOVA my heart still cry for that land of my ancestors dont worry we will take them soon one day you serbs will have only pashalluk of beograd you dont belong here in balkan pls go back to your gypsy tribe next to ural sea next to mongol people death to serb nation death to serb nation HITLER SAID AS LONG AS THEY ARE JEW PEOPLE ,SLAVIC PEOPLE,GYPSY PEOPLE ,AND BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WORLD NEVER WILL BE IN PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS TRUE LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA UNION WITH KOSOVA

ILIR LIKA		30-Apr-2007 00:15
I DID POST IT THIS EARLY BUT NO SERB SHIT REPLY TO ME ABOUT THAT CZ THIS IS A FACT IT DID NOT HAPPEND 2000YEARS IT DD NOT HAPPEND 1000 YEARS AGO IT DID NOT HAPPEND 500 YEARS AGO IT DID NOT HAPPEND 300 YEARS AGO IT DID NOT HAPPEND 200 YEARS AGO BUT IT DID HAPPEND 120 YEARS AGO ALL WORLD KNOW THAT YOU TOOK OUR LAND WHICJ IS WITHIN SERBIA NOW AND YOU SHITY SERB PEOPLE SAYIN KOSOVA THIS AND THAT KOSOVA THIS AND THIS # SO READ IT AND REPLY TO ME to SERBS SHITY RACE TO MLADICH of course you not going to have argument with us albanian cz you know the fact KOSOVA is ALBANIAN land no coment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hey ratko mladich chetnik go and fuck your mother pussy or do DNA test maybe your father is albanian all serb womens they got fucked by us albanian juring YUGOSLAVIA and serbia time thats way you hate albanian KOSOVA is gone forever from serbs just put it in your mind the last think we are going to do to serbs we are going to claim more land within serbia cz 1878 serbia took from us all this land PROKUPLJE ,NIS,JABLLANICA,TOPLICA ,ETC we still got thinks to sort out with you filthy serbs our day is coming soon i my sellf my great great grandfather come from TOPLICA from willage called TMAVA even today exsist with same name is near the willage berbatovac my my great great granfather come to KOSOVA in year 1880 we still got document of our land in toplica which is in writting in turkish language cz at the time was otoman empire we got a good proof not only my family but a million albanian family they got those documents i my self i am a 4th generation in KOSOVA even i born in KOSOVA my heart still cry for that land of my ancestors dont worry we will take them soon one day you serbs will have only pashalluk of beograd you dont belong here in balkan pls go back to your gypsy tribe next to ural sea next to mongol people death to serb nation death to serb nation HITLER SAID AS LONG AS THEY ARE JEW PEOPLE ,SLAVIC PEOPLE,GYPSY PEOPLE ,AND BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WORLD NEVER WILL BE IN PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS TRUE LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA UNION WITH KOSOVA

ILIR LIKA		30-Apr-2007 00:09
to guest ha ha ha Albania is the poorest country in Europe.. Maybe in the northern hemisphere ?a ha ha albania is the most beautiful country in balkan adriatic sea and jon sea than is croatia and montenegro of course croatia is more developed country than albania but look at in 2-3 years were albania will go with turisem how about serbia nothing!!!!!!!!!!! just danub ha ha ha fuck off guest we albanian are the luckiest people in balkan the best land we have best mountains sharr planina ,brezovica,etc etc

ILIR LIKA		30-Apr-2007 00:09
to guest ha ha ha Albania is the poorest country in Europe.. Maybe in the northern hemisphere ?a ha ha albania is the most beautiful country in balkan adriatic sea and jon sea than is croatia and montenegro of course croatia is more developed country than albania but look at in 2-3 years were albania will go with turisem how about serbia nothing!!!!!!!!!!! just danub ha ha ha fuck off guest we albanian are the luckiest people in balkan the best land we have best mountains sharr planina ,brezovica,etc etc

Guest		30-Apr-2007 00:08
to guest ha ha ha Albania is the poorest country in Europe.. Maybe in the northern hemisphere ?a ha ha albania is the most beautiful country in balkan adriatic sea and jon sea than is croatia and montenegro of course croatia is more developed country than albania but look at in 2-3 years were albania will go with turisem how about serbia nothing!!!!!!!!!!! just danub ha ha ha fuck off guest we albanian are the luckiest people in balkan the best land we have best mountains sharr planina ,brezovica,etc etc

Guest		28-Apr-2007 01:25
Albania is the poorest country in Europe.. Maybe in the northern hemisphere ?

Guest		27-Apr-2007 19:25
Yeah, Serbian girls don't touch Albanians with a metal barge pole, that's all I know - and so does everybody else! But siptars can always dream, anyway, what else can they do? So, dream on, maybe you get a Serbian girl in your dreams, you stinking ape!

Guest		27-Apr-2007 18:54
Hello everyone, I will not reply to Ilir Lika's bullshit instead I would advise you to read this paragraph one more time: "Listen dude my father works on a building site when he has a free day from his perminant job which is 2 days a week. He works all night then sleeps during the day like a fucking bat and then goes to dig people's fucking gardens on his day off. He works like a donkey all so he can provide for me and so I can live comfortably and be successful in later life, and there you are you fucking GREEDY cunt with multiple houses telling me this and that FUCK YOU." Vlad, Glad to see you have returned, yeah Hungarians are strange, they are a civilised people with great culture and work ethic, and they have brought many great things, almost all aspects of central European countries are linked to the Austro-Hungarian empire, the architecture, the traditions and the valours and ethic to work hard. However, on the other hand, Hungarians are causing problems in Romania as you guys are discussing and to a far lesser extent, in Serbia (Vojvodina). But from my experiences they are a peaceful and civil people not willing to degrade themselves to Shiptars' levels by starting wars and shit so Vojvodina can be worse off after the war than it is now, just as Kosovo is worse now than it was before the war. Albanians, You Albanians think you have something amazing, freedom, that I'm afraid you do not. You will live in worse conditions than during Yugoslavia, so enjoy your fucked up country destroyed to pieces and enjoy your "freedom", in truth now you are just slaves for the USA. You will have American bases built on Kosovo, you will probably have nuclear warheads stationned on Kosovo in the near future, and the USA will milk Kosovo of all its resources, and you can't do or say a thing, because the Americans will say "no no Shiptare, remember now I saved your ass in the war, that means you owe me, now carry on working or I will destroy you" and you will not be able to do a thing. I am speaking metaphorically here, so these two 'people' represent Albanian Kosovo and USA. the_albanian, In regards to sport, the UK is extremely poor. It is one of the richest nations on Earth with the most amount of sports originating here such as football (soccer), rugby, tennis, cricket, hockey etc etc. however, it remains poor at almost all these sports. It has only ever won the football World Cup once, it is abysmal at rugby now, cricket is pathetic, tennis - don't even let me mention :D I think there is something wrong with this country, despite having so many resources available to it, it is still awful in every sport. The UK has 70 million inhabitants, all with plentiful resources at their hands, with most of the World's sports even being invented here, and still Britain cannot produce anything worth commendation. It is truly pathetic. As for Serbian women in the sex slave trade, I have never heard of such a thing, it is very very rare, if it is existant the women involved would be the product of our new amazing 'democracy', that is totally mental and fucked up drug addicts with no other way to feed their addiction than sell themselves for sex, but this is the case in every country on Earth, it is to an enormously lesser extent than Albanians, sorry to say. You seem like a nice guy dude but don't lie about how you've fucked loads of Serbian girls, because Serbian girls don't touch Albanians with a barge pole, I know because I live in the diaspora in a country with 300,000 Albanians and only 60,000 Serbs, and Serbian girls always tell me that as soon as they hear someone is Albanian they steer clear dude. I would imagine it is the same vise-versa, but I don't find Albanian girls attractive fortunately (i say fortunately because if i did it wouldnt make any difference because they would probably not date or fuck a Serb). One thing I think everyone in this forum agrees on is how fucking ugly nigger and Paki and Arab girls and guys are, I mean fucking hell how are they so nasty looking? It makes me feel sick sometimes when I see black girls, they look like gorillas, most of them are built like men, you can't tell the difference sometimes! Regards. Sieg Heil

Guest		27-Apr-2007 06:38
ahhaha guest so I am so ugly that I can pick up girls from Serbia... that is kind of keeping your girls/women i a very low standard... embarrassing for you if you ask me with your statement... But I guess I am polluting your race since I actually been with a serbian girl and did they love me... Its funny almost all serbian girls I have ever known talk to me... So are we that ugly that serbian women actually love talking to me... You are showing some sad facts and keeping your women standards low... since you are claiming that i am garbage and ugly... thats sad when in fact you don;t even know me

Vlad_ROMANIAN		26-Apr-2007 16:14
Nu mai, nu e nici o problema pentru greseli gramaticale, si eu une ori fac multe, stai linistit, prietene. Yes I know that many hungarians still hate us, but I think that actually they not represent a problem. They had only in 1990 after our anti-communist revolution the possibility to do problems, because the first weeks after the death of Ceausescu's regime, in our Fatherland was a caos, and they had try to profite, but they lost, because romanian peoples show to be two times strong. First time we defeated Ceausescu and in the second time we defeated hungarians radicals in Targu Mures, thanks to many romanian volunteers who came there called by Gheorghe Funar for defeat hungarians in that urban fight. We won that fight and we saved our Unity and our Sovereignity. Therefore I am so proud to be romanian, because also after 45 years of communism, our glorious people still conserved and conserve still today its great nationalist pride. In Targu Mures, our volunteers massacred hungarian radicals and saved our Unity. After that days, when the new Governament was built, our new Governament drived by National Save Front, thank our volunteer (many of them were students) for that great victory. Now after all these years, we are in EU and NATO, and also hungarians surrender to accept the fact that they are minority and that they must respect our sovereignity. In facts, their party UDMR refuse to speak still about revanscism or crazy dreams. If you come now in Targu Mures, the same hungarians who 18 years ago hate us, now speak romanian and are very friendly. This is my point of view, so I believe that we can live together in peace and harmony, because now the situation is very very better. I think that the words of few stupid hungarians radicals not represent the way of think of the total hungarian people, who are also in my opinion a people who help our Fatherland to progress in these years, thanks to their mittle-european mentality and worker spirit. I don't hate them. I believe we can live together, and I believe that our obligation is only to massacre hungarian radicals and not hungarian people in general. ND is the new Guard for the defence of our national spirit and now we see that our greatest problem is not hungarians, but gypsy, who must be repressed by a strong political and militar action. Also if we can not kill them, we can do a policy for reduce them, with limitation of their borns. Blair in England for reduce Pakis and Niggers, limited their borns, so that meaning that if we do the same against gypsy, EU will not criticize us. Another way is to forbide them to go in foreign states. I believe that we can repress them also without violences, but our Government must move and wake up. In Slovakia, gypsy are very hated by population, because in the time of Meciar's Government they were repressed, while now with democratics governments they are help and treated in democratic way. EU CRED CA A FI SI BINE SA INCEPEM SI NOI SA LUAM LOPETI SI BASTOANELE SI SA I BATEM VRE O DATA CAND INCEP SA FACA GALAGIA, MACAR ASA INCEP SA STIE DE FRICA, SA DA DRACU IN BURTA CIORILOR. TRAIASCA ROMANIA

Guest		26-Apr-2007 11:43
Now I know why you're all so ugly and stupid: you teach discipline in bed. Well, we only MAKE LOVE to our women, that's why we Serbs are the most beautiful people on Earth! It's very simple, but it's no use telling you to try it because you're still underdeveloped and for you there's no hope. Centuries will pass before siptars can start looking and thinking like the rest of Europeans. Until then, hide your ugly faces and stop polluting us!

Seneka		25-Apr-2007 21:47
Scuze pentru pleonasme si alte greseli gramaticale, dar n-am mai stat sa corectez si sa recitesc textul. :)

Seneka		25-Apr-2007 21:43
Dear Vlad, There hasn't been a change in my thinking, i still believe that killing is wrong and violence doesn't solve anything most of the time. The thing is that i recently read a pdf document of a book about the past murders that hungarians made against our people in Transilvania during their rule. It was recommended by an acquaintance of mine who has strong nationalistic views. It's called "Urmasii lui Atilla" written by Radu Theodoru. And i also visited some forums in which hungaryans constantly insulted us and saying that our history is nothing more than a communist fabrication. And they weren't just insulting romanians, they were saying all sort of tings about slovaks, ukrainians, slovenians, serbs, even austrians. It seems that (at least those people hated everyone they border with). I know that probably in real life the situation is different, but as long as people like that say suck things on such a magnitude and with so much passion, it means that there still is might pose a threat to Romania, in a thousand different ways. Probably i'm wrong to feel this way about them, but it angers me so much when they insult our people especially when i know how much bloodshed and suffering romanians had to suffer so that this country would simply exist. And what angers me more is the fact that romanians forget this aspect of our history, they forget that we have herous in our cemeterys, great men that died for our dream to forge a nation that would hold all romanians together. The hungarians are way ahead of us when it comes to respecting national heroes and the history of the nation. This is why i think that ND's campaign is one of the most important in the last years on the political scene. Anyway, my logic was that hungarians pose a bigger threat than gipsyes simply because they are civilized. A civilized people is always is a far better opponent than some barbaric nomadic tribe like the gipsyes. Thanks for the swift reply. Best wishes.

the_albanian		25-Apr-2007 19:41
guest... Yes I am using it becuase as you can see I do not have a problem with greeks. Sure you don't want to learn albanian neither do i want to speak Serbian... you have no clue what you are missing. You are stuck in the misreable serbia with 40% unemployment and even if you know many other languages there is no use for except brag about it, while I am out using all my abilities and making more money than people do at my age. You belive being serbian will open your doors to opporunities... believe me no one gives a shit that you are serbian or that I am albanian... Sure I will go get a glass of Konjak and I will go to a serbian club or some of my serbian girls who are my classmates and teach them some Albanian discipline in bed... While you stay in front of your computer jacking off

Vlad_ROMANIAN		25-Apr-2007 19:34
Seneka, you seemed me very different in the past....you said that I am a killer who want to commit a new Holocaust and that my ideas are criminals......why this changment? I sincerely can't understand. My vision about gypsy is very well known. I hate them. I must admit it. They are a danger and a shame for our loved Fatherland. They are a problem for all Balkan countries. In Serbia they are in Parlament, in Hungary they can to send and their representat to Eu's Parlament and that representant who is a woman, made many problems for Hungarian State who now must be more prudent in what concern his policy against gypsy. In Slovakia they are also very much, expecially in Kosice, and they love to live at the borderd of the towns and villages and made many dangers, in Bulgaria they are also too much, and they have a Party and they drive the prostitution trade with West, etc.... So how can you see gypsy are not only a Romanian problem, they are an EUROPEAN and BALKAN problem who must be considered serious and not in democratic style. I also admit that we must dialogue with other minorities, also with hungarian minority, or german minority, because these two peoples are civil and very well heducated. We can dialogue with them, because they don't cause murders, stolens, rapes etc..., and I think that dialogue and diplomacy is possible with all peoples, except gypsy. Because they are a particular case. They have a total anarchical style of life, they can not live together other peoples and to be integrated. Like you can see, exists many cases of good integrations with other peoples, because other peoples has a normal mentality also if it is different, but by the moment that that mentality is normal and correct, the dialogue can resolve any obstacles and problems. But with gypsy not. They profite by dialogue to continue to commit crimes and to joke with stupid European Democracy who don't know how is difficolt for Balkan peoples to live with gypsy. I must admit that also if it is not human or good, we must and we are obligate to do a STRONG POLICY against them. In what concern hungarians: well, I live in Banat and my University is in Cluj in the hearth of Transilvania. I see that the situation with them now is good. They are very well integrated, and are also many mixed marriages. I knew many hungarians speaking good romanian and live in harmony with romanians. Very few of them now follow irredentist policy of Tokes or Szasz jeno. They can not do nothing against our unity, integrity and sovereignity, because they are MINORITY, in Transylvania they are only 20% and in total in Romania are only 6%. And we are now in EU and NATO, this meaning that now being us in West greatest Institutions, hungarians can not do problems, because it will be a problem also for the stability of the total West militar and political system. SO hungarians in my opinion are not a problem today. Only sometimes is agood thing to broke their asses when some of them become a few crazy. And we romanians know very well to calm and quite their excitations..eh eh eh eh.

Seneka		25-Apr-2007 18:46
Hello Vlad, In the past you explained on this forum your views about gipsyes. I can't say that i fully agree with them but i do think they represent a problem. Anyway if you don't mind i would like to know your views and your party's views for that matter on another very delicate issue, and by that i mean the hungarians. I recently saw some clips of their propaganda and it was some serious business about Transilvania in them and how it's actually theirs and they are the biggest victims in Europe because of the Trianon Pact of 1920. And i heard that they also spend a lot of money on lobby in the west for their cause and how hungarians are persecuted in the neighboring countries. It seems that there are still a lot of people in Hungary that never gave up on the ideea that one day they'll retake our beloved Ardeal. I really hate them for how they so shamelessly lie about the past. And for the fact that hungarians in Harghita and Covasna refuse to speak our wonderfull language. Anyway, i'm looking forward to your reply. Thanks Best regards.

Vlad_ROMANIAN		25-Apr-2007 11:55
Ratko, I am 23 yo from Timisoara. I work at Unicredit Bank here in my town at cash, by 2 months. I must still finish my university, and I still must to do my last exam for it, plus the thesis who I belive will be about Globalization and its Problems. I play gym and I am militant of Nouadreapta, a right radical romanian party who is very increasing in these last years. I have many friends, most of them are my comrades of party and other are simple boys who don't care about politic. My town is very beautiful, it has a great old center, with high baroque buildings built by Austro-Hungarican Empire. Is a town very clean and ordered, with large Parks an a great Mittle-European Spirit. Since 1990 my town knew a great economical boom thanks to foreign businnes and companies who invest here massive, milliards of $. Here we have a modern industrial park in perfect West-style, with industries who has high technology. My town is full of commercial center and full of life.

Gray		25-Apr-2007 10:44
Hello, my name is Petro, I liked yours guest book, can get acquainted and with mine

Guest		25-Apr-2007 08:23
OMG how stupid do you have to be?! You know a language I don't? Namely, siptarski?! Man, get your life together - who cares about it?! Only your pitiful bastard people! Be realistic and stop this bullshit about your earnings, we know you're a poor fuckud-up immigrant who doesn't belong anywhere except the bare hills of albania. If you really were who you claim to be, you would not use these silly arguments in a photo forum on Belgrade. You'd be earning your money for God's sake! So fuck off and go get yourself drunk or whatever it is that makes you forget about horrible reality, just leave us alone, you idiot!

ILIR LIKA		25-Apr-2007 02:07
TO SERBS YES I AM SHQIPTAR AND PROUD TO BE SHQIPTAR

ILIR LIKA		25-Apr-2007 02:06
to guest ha ha ha you dont have to come back again in this gallery go and wash your mother pussy and bring it to me i would give her my cock just to do a blaw job to me if you heve sister send her in KOSOVA se may geta job as a cleaner in albanian offices DEATH TO SERB NATION

Guest		24-Apr-2007 21:14
Guest... So you speak 4 does it matter to me...?? i still know a language that you do not and not many speak it. and are you still up with those loser photos??? Ratko.. unfortunately I know little bit of spanish but not fluent. I know enough to get by if I were to visit a spanish speaking country.. But you are still in a disadvantage in coparison to me because I wouldn't even give a cent to a greek because they don't interest me. In other hand you serbians have to deal with Albanians. So in that relationship I am in advantage over you. As for my mom... i'll bet you $1 trillion dollars that my mom is way smarter than your... I'l bet you anything that almost every serb knows my fmaily and they know what we did and how much wealth we have... Not just serbs but every X-Yugoslavian would know... I will bet you anything that your mom was probably one of those serbian/gypse women who came to clean my stairs in my building and asked for 1DM while my mom made 1500DM a month.

Guest		24-Apr-2007 21:10
небитно је, докле год буду срали ови шиптари спамоваћу са овим линковима, док вам свима не досади ова галерија.. поз

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		24-Apr-2007 18:57
To Albanain I said I'm not in disadvantage because of not knowing YOUR language.That was my point.By the way,I fluently speak 4 languages:Serbian,Greek,English,Spanish...Say if you want me to show you my knowledge. Money is not a measure of anything in one's life and you should know it.Because you earn that much money doesn't mean you're not a pussy,so big as you ARE.No,you see,your mother wiped my ass for a glass of water and Ilir's sucked my dick for a ''lek''. And I see only one idiot and that's not me(let's think who it might be)... To Ilir shit I'ts not you Seneka cause you are retarded 5 year old Albanian son of a whore.Your father is probably some Englishman who fucked your family in return for a piece of bread.I fucked thousands of times your dirty mother and enjoyed her as she was screaming and begging me to stop.HA HA HA The same is for the rest of your family To Guest Ok,cxBatu/\u cmo,He moraIII to/\uko qa ce ucTu4eIII tum /\uHkoBuma,py#HO je 3a CaJT... To Vlad First,I apologize for being vulgar in writting to Albanians,but can not stand those terrorists telling such things about my country.Thank you for your words,I appreciate them.I hope also,that Ratko will become a legend if not already.I know that borders should not be obstacles for two brotherly people and hope soon the situation will be better.Yes,I'm a student,first year on faculty and doing very well.I'm from capital and as you probably know,have 19 years.In high school I practiced rowing and was twice a state vice-champion in this sport.I'm not in SRS because I don't really have much time for it,but from the view of a usual citizen I see it as one of the freshest and most diligent partiest on a political margine of Serbia.You are from Bucarest,right?What are your main interests in life? To Seneka You know what they say:''Who waits,will be there to see'',so I have a faith in better life,and by that in easier way to travel too... Regards to my Orthodox brothers from England and brotherly ROMANIA KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA CP6UJA qO TOKUJA A/\6AHUJA K'O HOKUJA ELLAS KAI SERVIA PANTA MAZI

Vlad_ROMANIAN		24-Apr-2007 17:21
Seneka, I am glad that you ordered two national glorious flag. I had by 5 yeatrs one and I love it more than myself. OUr champaign for made romanians proud for our national symbols going very very well. Basescu unfortunately will come back after 1 month you are right. IN anycase is important that ur nationals pride is rising up. Here in Translivanya and Banat nationalism was stronger than in Bucharest, but I see that finally also in Wallachia, nationalism is rising up. My mum is from Oltenia, a beautiful region of our Fatherland where nationalism is strong and in last years is very increasing. To Ratko Mladic Serbian Hero, I remember that your nickname is wonderfull. When I read you I remember the passion that I had in my adolescence for that great hero of General Mladic who free Republika Srpska by islamic domination. He is a new Knez Lazar and I hope serb new generations will consider him like a national hero. Don't care about this stupid burocracy. You will see that quickly this stupid VISA will finish: IS IMPOSSBILE TO MAKE VISA FOR A BROTHER PEOPLE LIKE SERBS. How is your life? Are you in SRS? Ar eyou student? SVI SU SRBI RATKOVI VOJNICI! U BOJ KRENTE JUNACI SVI KRENTE I NE ZALTE ZIVOT ZVOJ...

Guest		24-Apr-2007 09:08
Siptari, who the hell wants to learn albanian? Are you nuts?! Of course languages count: I speak four! But not albanian, for God's sake! It's the least important language in the world. Well, maybe not. Maybe Roma language is. Or maybe you share the last place on the list with them, you poor bastards!

ILIR LIKA		24-Apr-2007 05:01
TO ANTE I THINK YOU ARE CROAT GYPSY CZ YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT SERB GYPSY I BELIVE THEY ARE MORE GYPSY IN CROATIA THAN IN SERBIA I WAS IN CROATIA AND I SAW THEM THEY ARE MORE GAY PEOPLE IN CROATIA THAN SERBIA A REAL CROAT I CALL A CROAT FROM ZAGORIA YES CROATIA IS A BEAUTIFULL COUNTRY THATS TRUE ANTE IF YOUR SISTER LIKE ALBANIAN COCK I AM SORRY MATE IS NOT MY FAULT OR IF YOUR MOTHER STILL GOT A PICTURE OF ANY ALBANIAN MAN IN HER ALBUM CZ SHE WAS FUCKED GOOD BY ALBANIAN COCK AGAIN I AM SORRY I THINK YOU TO LIKE RATKO MLADICH GO AND CHECK DNA TEST MAYBE YOU ARE ALBANIAN TO I SAID BEAFORE AND WILL SAY AGAIN FOR ONE THINK I LIKE CROAT PEOPLE CZ THEY KILL SERB PEOPLE LIKE PIGS FOR THAT I LIKE CROATS NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE END OF THE DAY EVEN YOU ARE SLAVIC PEOPLE ONLY THING CATHOLIC FUCK OF TA QIFSHA NANEN NE PIDH TA QIFSHA FAMILJEN QIFSHA MOTREN ZIVILA VELIKA ALBANIA ZIVILA HRVATSKA DEATH TO SERB NATION

ILIR LIKA		24-Apr-2007 04:49
TO STEFAN you pice of shit serb gypsy why dont you go and live in serbia cz you like so much serbia and you know shit about balkan history you read history in internet about serbia and you read serb website telling false history mate serbia is getting and it is the poorest country in balkan at the moment KOSOVA is better off than serbia we albanian we have better life than serbs we have better food ,hygene,roads are asfalted even in the smallest willages every thing brand new we are building a motorway which is under counstraction betwen durres and prishtina this motorway will be finished by 2008 so from prishtina to durres you can go for 2 and half hour maximum 3 hours other motorway is under the way PRISHTINA to SELAONIK and many other roads are under the way we are buliding the bigest catholic catherdale in east europe in middle of prishtina cz we have albanian catholics we are building the most beutifull mosce in world in kosova plenty of them we have good relation muslim and catholic end of the day we albanian we belive more in god than in religion we have rich folklor etc if you go now in prishtina you think you are in west end like in london to many clubs reasturants casino etc etc nice girls and preaty girls every where in streets you hear albanian language every sign in kosova and prishtina is albanian language not like beafore in shity cirilica when i go holiday there i go evry two month sometimes 2 time a month when i land in prishtina airport you see sign MIRSEVINI NE KOSOVE & WELCOME TO KOSOVA oh my god i get so exited stefan you know shit about balkan you filthy half serb and half algerian-french fuck off i hate serbs i hate serbs death to serb nation

ILIR LIKA		24-Apr-2007 04:31
TO the _albanian bravo you left serb people without coment they can not reply to your answer cz whatever you talk you tell the truth hallall te koft se i myte kta chetnikt pa coment po le kalofsh mir e gjith te mira ne jeten tane the familjen tane gjithmon ishalla me gzime se njerz si ti na u duhen neve shqiptarve une per vete smuj me fol me at fjalor qysh po shkrun ti se nuk di kisha pat qef po spo di ma mir se ti me i kap ne fjal kata chetnik po po dohet mi sha kaiher po ti me fjal te omla po ju a shkerdhen chetnikve fjalt bravo hallall te koft tung tung te fala

ILIR LIKA		24-Apr-2007 04:23
to SERBS SHITY RACE TO MLADICH of course you not going to have argument with us albanian cz you know the fact KOSOVA is ALBANIAN land no coment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hey ratko mladich chetnik go and fuck your mother pussy or do DNA test maybe your father is albanian all serb womens they got fucked by us albanian juring YUGOSLAVIA and serbia time thats way you hate albanian KOSOVA is gone forever from serbs just put it in your mind the last think we are going to do to serbs we are going to claim more land within serbia cz 1878 serbia took from us all this land PROKUPLJE ,NIS,JABLLANICA,TOPLICA ,ETC we still got thinks to sort out with you filthy serbs our day is coming soon i my sellf my great great grandfather come from TOPLICA from willage called TMAVA even today exsist with same name is near the willage berbatovac my my great great granfather come to KOSOVA in year 1880 we still got document of our land in toplica which is in writting in turkish language cz at the time was otoman empire we got a good proof not only my family but a million albanian family they got those documents i my self i am a 4th generation in KOSOVA even i born in KOSOVA my heart still cry for that land of my ancestors dont worry we will take them soon one day you serbs will have only pashalluk of beograd you dont belong here in balkan pls go back to your gypsy tribe next to ural sea next to mongol people death to serb nation death to serb nation HITLER SAID AS LONG AS THEY ARE JEW PEOPLE ,SLAVIC PEOPLE,GYPSY PEOPLE ,AND BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WORLD NEVER WILL BE IN PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS TRUE LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA UNION WITH KOSOVA

Guest		24-Apr-2007 01:16
Mladic... are you serious???? You think you are not in a disadvantage... you must not know the value of knowing more than one language... I got nothing more to say to you but that you are an IDIOT. Because I know 3 languages fluently I earn more than 36K a year. and I just graduated from college with a Bachelors now going for masters and pHd. You must be some 17 year old... You want to tell me how kosova was when your mom was probably still wiping your ass.

Seneka		23-Apr-2007 20:17
Vlad, Unfortunately Traian Basescu will continue to be president although he was suspended for 1 month. And he will, almost surely win th next mandate, Nationalists don't have a chance in the next election, at least this is my opinion. And you are forgetting the fact that Romania is far from being a real democracy. We have SEVEN secret agencies with more agents per citizen than the UNITED STATES. AND FOR WHAT? For the spieling on its one citizens. Who ever controls the secret services in Romania controls the Presidency and the government thru all sort of blackmailing. Anyway i'm glad about your party's recent campaign that tries to make Romanians proud of their most valorous symbol, the national flag. I ordered 2 flags from www.nouadreapta.org and i can't wait until they arrive. To Stefan Although I'm older than you i can sincerely say that you are an inspiration. To bad that you have lost hope in your home country. I hope that in the future you will change your mind. To Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero It saddens me that you can't travel to Romania, i find this to be a very stupid situation, especially considering the fact that so many Romanians escaped from Ceausescu's madness thru Serbia. This whole EU business has left me with a bitter taste in my mouth untill now. Hope that the situation will be fixet as soon as posible... Best wishes to you all.

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		23-Apr-2007 16:35
To Stefan This talk with Albanians could go on forever,so I decided not to argue with their Serbohatred personalities any more.I could do so,but I'm not sure if it has any effect on anyone on this site.The same is for Ante,I simply can't figure out why is he so obsessed with gypsies,I mean is this site called www.pbase.com/gypsyland or something.. .I'm really starting to get more and more bored by these anti Serb comments,so I no longer care.And,like I said majority in Serbia are for,in my opinion best party in the Balkans-Serbian radical party.So,please,I do not expect you to defend our country on this site all the time,but please do not have such view off the things in your fatherland. To Vlad Hey,man,glad you're back.I went to Bulgarian and Romanian embassy today to see what would I need for my visa and felt very big disappointment when i realised it was nearly impossible to find all those documents and things to visit these 2 countries.And so I was walking and thinking to myself where could i travel to without any visa and the answer was:Macedonia,Bosnia,Croatia,Belorussia and Albania...small choise...So shitty and so not democratic...That's why I hate democracy.I'm happy that you could now,because of being in EU,travel wherever you want and see all those things my people probably never will. To Albanian I'm certainly NOT in disadvantage because I don't really like your language and you show yourself to us as a primitive,just by calling anyone gypsie.I would not follow your insults and turning them back to you,because I think that's not leading anywhere.You have your own opinion,I have mine,so I don't want our argue to be endless.Write what you want,I don't truely care. To Ante To sto si rekao za moju majku bi moglo da te kosta zivota,naravno da znam ko si.Ali posto si ti kao i 99% svojih sunarodnika koji pljuju i vredjaju a onda ko poslednje pickice se sakriju,racunam da od svega ovog nema nista.Bio sam u Hrvatskoj i proslo leto i neki su mi se kao mrstili a kad ih popreko pogledam spustaju glavu.Naravno,bilo je i fer ljudi sa kojima i dan-danas odrzavam prijateljstvo. Tako da ako hoces da mi se kurcis,reci kad ces i gde da se nadjemo da lepo zavrsimo stvari.Ja mislim da bi mogao normalnije da komuniciras sa mnom i ostalima na sajtu,ako zelis.Ako ne-to je vec tvoj problem.Dopada mi se Hrvatska i kao moj zemljak Stefan smatram da imate primorje extra primorje.. pozdrav Regards to all of you KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA CP6UJA qO CUqHEJA

Vlad		23-Apr-2007 15:39
Hej Stefan, I am glad that I can after all these days to come back in this wonderfull web site. I was busy with my job, in this period many peoples come for give their wage with chek and we are full of customers. Many of them are worker of itlaian companies here in Timisoara. I am very veyr glad you had that wonderfull night. I also was saturday night at Semenic here in Romanian Banat a toutistic place where is fun. I was together 5 mine friends and we drink and went to swim at swimmingpool. With my first wage I buy new personal portatle pc very very beautiful. Now I am waiting for the second. Here in my Fatherland our President demissed and this is a wonderfull notice! Now we are free by that stupid democratic populist called Traian Basescu. We will have new elections next month and I hope that nationalists forces will win for our reinsance! By this time I star tto work my life is very very much changed. In good aspects because now I have my economical independence but in another side unfortunately I have less free time for enjoy together friends. Sometimes I know they go toswim and to enjoy while I work there in Bank in the afternoon and I am a few sad, but in anycase the week end is free. About the discussion about the Balkan towns and cities: certainly Zagreb is very elegant and beautiful. I believe that former YU had wonderfull cities: Zagreb and Lubiana had a mittle-european farm and Belgrade was a beautiful mix of New-Classical and Balkan architeture, with its large bulevards, was certainly and is still now certainly the better city of former YU. Belgrade in my opinion is wonderfull. BELGRADE IS AN HISTORY BOOK. You can see in Knez Mihajlov a West City and the same thing is in Skadarlja, while in Kalemegdan Fortress you have a wonderfull image. St.Sava is very Bizantine and this made Belgrade so composite and beautiful. Our capitol Bucharest is wonderfull expecially in these last years. In Bulevard Carol, Kogalniceanu Square, Bulevard Magheru, Royal Palace, Cotroceni Palace, Mogosoaia Palace, you can see that wonderfull architeture that give to our capitol the name of LITTLE PARIS. Bucharest has great elegant Parks in French style like Cismigiu, Herestrau. Our Parlament is the second greatest building of the world after Pentagon. I did not been in Tirana and I can not express a definitive opinion about a town that I did not see by my eyes, but in all the Balkan capitols, Tirana is the smallest. It is not a city but a town, therefore it must be considered in different way than Belgrade. Tirana has 500000peoples while Belgrade has 1,7millions, this meaning that Belgrade is more that 3 times greatest than Tirana. Regardsto everyone. Expecially to my dear kameraten Stefan, Sieg Heil

Guest		23-Apr-2007 12:05
Omg these albanians do mate like animals.. Btw Tirana is very ugly!

Guest		23-Apr-2007 01:17
Vlad, nu stiu de ce dar am asa o vaga impresie cum ca ttu ai lucra la SRI. Scuze daca ma insel ;)

Guest		23-Apr-2007 00:53
to guest... I am very sure that ever city in the world got their city center and the beautiful city but you know every city is under development at all times. Just like Tirana, Belgrade got the same thing and they are called "projects" which is where people of very low income live, gangs do their things, and a lot fo bad things happen. Belgrade is no exception because as you may know, Paris got this problem, NYC got it, Detroit oh my god that city is worst than Baghdad, Chicago southside is very well known for its danger, Miami, Austin, Los Angeles, Berlin, Prishtina, Nis, Zagreb got the same problem too and I've seen it myself. Vienna got it too... there is no city that doesn't have a undeveloped part. I mean look at Paris.. which is way better than Belgrade and most definetly well kept by the government, and in the outside you got one of the worst areas to live in... So I am done with you and again as stefan said please don't spam its really a waste of time.... Ante... as Ilir said Croatians are part Illyrian, part Roman, and part Sllavic. So by calling us worst race that would include yourself there.... Also as Ilir said, there were numerous high Generals in the Army of Croatia... two famous ones are Agim Ceku, and Adem Jashari... they were both in the 90's war against serbia in Croatian side. I will say you guys have the best sea coast and yes I've been to Dubrovnik and Split which is way better than Zagreb... If you were to listen to me you'd move ur capital to Split.... The rest you are giving me some Mr. Ratko Gypsie Mladic bull crap.... Ratko Gypsie Mladic... Yes I understand your language and it served me very well because I can tlak to you and swear you and curse you in ym Albanian language and you wouldn't Understand.. if you thing you assimilated the Albanians, you are very wrong. Being in the Diaspora, that served me well because I worked as a translator for mostly Albanians but sometimes they needed Serbian and i got money off of that. So really you are in a disdavantage here because I can understand you very well while you can't... Thats it for you Stefan.... Not many sports are developed in UK. The only sports in UK is gymnastics, rugby, cricket, and soccer that are developed. I don't know about swimming but they are very good at outdoor activities... Volleyball halps you control your jump and gives you the ability to jump high in one or two steps. So that is a very good thing if you are looking to advance in basketball... I guess you are fascinated by american basketball but I assure you, that you should not look at it that way. US basketball lost its value of basketball. Now a persons ability to play has turned into dunks. If someone can dunk and "school" you, that is a good player according to americans and a lot of that spread into other nations. But look at it this way. US won World Champ in Basketball only a few time. Spain, Germany, Argentina, Serbia, Turkey, Greece, and Lithuania play fundamental basketball which means they spend more time in shooting, passing, and team play instead of how to dunk. Dunks should be performed if you are very close to the basket like Shaq O'neal. As for the trafficking, yes there are Albanian women in the trafficking world but there are not that many as people really think. I am sure you heard stories and they may be true but there are not that many. I am sure there are serbian, and croatian, romanian, bulgarian women there too. Wherever there is a lot of unemployment which is case of eastern europe, it is pretty high, there will be women from there. But we will leave it at that

ILIR LIKA		23-Apr-2007 00:10
SORRY MR VLAD THIS IS FOR TO ANTE TO ANTE you saying albanian race is the worst race in the world!!!!!!!! whatever you say i dont care in fact your race is illyrian race (albanian race) but by centuries mixing with slavic people you lost albanian language tradition etc etc and become slavic people i mean croatian people never mind i am not going to much in details about that end of the day modern croats are 80% pur slavic race cz albanian blood gone from your body as you fuck all the time with serbs. only pure illyrian people (albanian people)are left now are nearly 2 amd half million in KOSOVA, 4 million and half ALBANIA,around 1 and half milion in MACEDONIA around 150.000 albanian live now MONTENEGRO 60.000 in SERBIA so all together in balkan around 9 million albanian i am not counting the diaspora ps. in TURKEY around 5 million albanian live there in SICILIA and CALABRIA around 1 million etc ALBANAIN race is a beautiful race pure arian race this is a fact we are not slavic people i personally dont have nothing against CROAT PEOPLE to me croats are same as rest other european people end of the day croats are not better than serbs thanks to god they were not our neighbours otherwise we would have same problem like we had with serbs or maybe worse cz even croats are same mentality like serbs same language same tradition same shit in every way of the living life . i dont know and i dont want to know why you as croat you hate albanian when albanian they run the war in croatia if you did not have albanian generals in army you would lost the war against serbs example KNIN you know who made the plan of strategy of war how to fight move serb out of there of course you know that ALBANIAN GENERAL DID THAT AND YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THAT MR A... A.... and MR A... Q... etc you know what mr vlad i am sorry if any albanian man good looking man fuck your mother 17 years ago or your sister at that time in ex YUGOSLAVIA most of albanian from kosova they did have bussiness in croatia and they use to fuck the most beutifull womens of course mate ALBANIAN COCK fuck hard your croats womens even here in uk i know somany albanian they fuck a lot croat women cz croat women they like albanian cock not like you hrvati pederi hajt jebi se sorry mate but i do like croats instead because they kill a lot serbs only for that reason i like croats people and i like croat women they are very beautifull in my life i fuck about 4 croat women they are good in sex better than serb women homany serb women i fuck i could not remember a lot more than english and albanian women ZIVILA VELIKA ALBANIA ZIVILA HRVATSKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ILIR LIKA		23-Apr-2007 00:08
to VLAD you saying albanian race is the worst race in the world!!!!!!!! whatever you say i dont care in fact your race is illyrian race (albanian race) but by centuries mixing with slavic people you lost albanian language tradition etc etc and become slavic people i mean croatian people never mind i am not going to much in details about that end of the day modern croats are 80% pur slavic race cz albanian blood gone from your body as you fuck all the time with serbs. only pure illyrian people (albanian people)are left now are nearly 2 amd half million in KOSOVA, 4 million and half ALBANIA,around 1 and half milion in MACEDONIA around 150.000 albanian live now MONTENEGRO 60.000 in SERBIA so all together in balkan around 9 million albanian i am not counting the diaspora ps. in TURKEY around 5 million albanian live there in SICILIA and CALABRIA around 1 million etc ALBANAIN race is a beautiful race pure arian race this is a fact we are not slavic people i personally dont have nothing against CROAT PEOPLE to me croats are same as rest other european people end of the day croats are not better than serbs thanks to god they were not our neighbours otherwise we would have same problem like we had with serbs or maybe worse cz even croats are same mentality like serbs same language same tradition same shit in every way of the living life . i dont know and i dont want to know why you as croat you hate albanian when albanian they run the war in croatia if you did not have albanian generals in army you would lost the war against serbs example KNIN you know who made the plan of strategy of war how to fight move serb out of there of course you know that ALBANIAN GENERAL DID THAT AND YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THAT MR A... A.... and MR A... Q... etc you know what mr vlad i am sorry if any albanian man good looking man fuck your mother 17 years ago or your sister at that time in ex YUGOSLAVIA most of albanian from kosova they did have bussiness in croatia and they use to fuck the most beutifull womens of course mate ALBANIAN COCK fuck hard your croats womens even here in uk i know somany albanian they fuck a lot croat women cz croat women they like albanian cock not like you hrvati pederi hajt jebi se sorry mate but i do like croats instead because they kill a lot serbs only for that reason i like croats people and i like croat women they are very beautifull in my life i fuck about 4 croat women they are good in sex better than serb women homany serb women i fuck i could not remember a lot more than english and albanian women ZIVILA VELIKA ALBANIA ZIVILA HRVATSKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest		22-Apr-2007 21:32
Vlad, Hello my kameraten, I don't know if you still visit this website, I feel as though you have been excluded from the conversation/debate here so I just wanted to see how you've been? I've been good I went to a massive house party yesterday night it was crazy I drank way to much and I went and kissed some lady I didn't even know in the street at about 2am haha, somebody took a video of it on their mobile phones haha Today was the London marathon, and a Romanian came 3rd in the women's race, I thought I would let you know, it is a proud achievement, especially because long distance running is usually left for niggers to do, they have to run that far anyway each day in Africa to get some water haha How are things at your job? Here school is Ok but I have some major exams soon for biology, chemistry and mathematics, and so I fill most of my time now with revising my notes and stuff, so I was glad to have some fun yesterday and forget about work for one night :-) Kind regards to you my friend, and I hope everything is well Stefan Sieg Heil!

Guest		22-Apr-2007 21:21
Ante, I agree with you...... on one point only! Not that Albanians are the worst race in the World, but that Croatia is beautiful. As I've said in my previous comment, I can admitt what is good and what is bad no matter who is belongs to. Croatia has the best seaside in Europe and possibly the World, I've never heard a bad review from someone who visited Dalmacija or Istria. My Godfather is half Cro half Serb and he has a house in Trogir he always invites me to go but I have never taken up that offer, for various reasons, mainly because I see idiot fundamentalists like you Ante that put me off going to a place where my kind of people are hated, even if I don't say I'm a Serb I wouldn't be comfortable to be with people who hate me when I do not hate them. Don't you see that both our peoples are white firstly, secondly we are both Europeans, thirdly we are both Slavs, fourthly we are both Christian, fifth we both speak the same language, sixth we are both Yugoslavs (South Slavs). Why must we be so against each other? It doesn't make sence to me, but whatever dude you can think what you want I don't care really about you because I will never meet you and if I do I won't have anything to say to you. All I can say is that yes Croatia is nice but I don't like the cocky Croatian attitude. Serbia has better cities than Croatia, Zagreb is nothing compared to Beograd. We are better at sports than you are, in the last ten years we have been World Champions for Basketball, Volleyball, Waterpolo and Handball. Your football team is better but Serbian football players can be found in almost every major football club in Europe, we are just not a good team as a team altogether. Our churches are nicer than yours dude, and our religion doesn't tell us we can't fuck girls then we go and do it anyway and still call ourselves religious like you Croatians do. You are Catholic, and if you were really religious as you all claim, you would not fuck girls before marriage, use condoms, have abortions and many more things, but you do. I dunno what to say man I know you will just reply "fuck you serb i will slit your throat like ante pavelic bla bla bla whatever" but I still wont hate Croatia. Also there are not 800,000 gypsies in Serbia where the hell did you get that statistic? There are maybe a quarter of that number, in all of Serbia and Kosovo there are max 200,000 cigani, if that dude! And you say they have some ministers.......do you know what happened to them? The first day of the new parliament they went in and before they could even enter the Skupstina hundreds of Serbs beat the shit out of them hahahahahhaha. Yeah sure dude, we love cigani hahaha Pozdrav Stefan

Ante		22-Apr-2007 21:15
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Guest		22-Apr-2007 21:07
Guest, Brate Srbin, stop spamming those links, we get the picture dude Tirana is an awful city, any travel review will tell you that, in fact I've even researched it before because some Albanians are so cocky about everything that I wanted to see what they actually have to be proud of. And since Tirana is their biggest city and capital, I thought I would start there. This is what I gathered from what I saw on various different websites. Tirana has a nice city centre, which has recently been renovated, they have a nice clean park: Parku Rinia, where people can go and relax in their lunch breaks, they have an enormous square with some nice government ministry buildings and a big history museum with a beautiful front facade of an grand mosaic. It is nice I must admitt, I know I am against Albanian activities in Kosovo but unlike most Albanians I am willing to say what the opposition has that is nice. They also have a nice residencial area where there are lots of new shops and clubs called Blloku. So for that square mile or so of the city centre, the surroundings are nice, and the scenery quite beautiful. But as you progressively move out of the town (its not really a city) centre, the poverty becomes apparent, as shown in those pics. But that will get better no doubt as time progresses and they get more investment from the West etc. So for me these pictures show only a bad side of a town, not it's good side, which is shown in many other websites, mainly made by Albanians themselves. So surely Tirana is no Belgrade, but it isnt the worst place in the World. So yeah please stop spamming man it makes it hard to scroll to other comments and stuff, sometimes I miss them because you have like 10 messages all containing the same thing. Pozdrav iz Londona Stefan

Ante		22-Apr-2007 21:00
Ratko, pupis mi kurac. Jebem ti mater! to all guests: Albania is the worst race of the world, thius is the only point that I agree. But Serbia is a shame of Europe! Is simple incredible that a country permit to two gypsy to become deputies! Is a sort of Circus! This meaning that gypsy minority n Serbia is very influent and strong. Statistics say that Srbija has 800000 gypsy. In Croatia this can not be possible first, because we have not gypsy and second because we are a proud people. Soon Srbija who has a sad cricus in Balkan, will have a gypsy president and a gypsy leadership. When I see Srbija I am more more proud t be croat! ZIVILA HRVATSKA!

Guest		22-Apr-2007 20:59
the_albanian Thanks for the advice mate I would love to be able to play volleyball but I'm afraid I don't know where to. Here in England we don't have the resources for volleyball because it is virtually non existant here as a sport. Most people, believe it or not in a developed MEDC such as Great Britain, do not even know what volleyball is, only a few who are more cultured or who have by chance seen it in the Olympics know what it is. Regretably, here shitty games such as rugby and cricket and polo are considered sports and are played across the entire nation while volleyball, waterpolo and handball are virtually unheard of, and I'm being 100% serious, no exagerrations. It's pathetic dude. I've been riding my bike to school for the past month and I've noticed a slight increase in my muscle mass in my calves so if I continue in this way as well as training for basketball 2/3 times a week I should be hitting 360s in no time. I don't know about the technicalities about where the Albanian women are taken, I've just heard stories on the news of some women who were rescued from a brothel house in London held by Albanian gangsters, they were all taken in broad daylight, bundled into a car in Tirana and taken by ferry to Italy, then in the back of a truck to England. That is a common thing here, and surely not only Albanian women, but they are notoriously known for this type of thing. Once in the news they called the dude who was caught a "Serbian rapist" because he was from Kosovo, but then when I got to what his name was it was something like Blerim Ishqet or something, and I was like yeah Serbian my ass. Its funny how when it suits the West to name bad people from Kosovo as Serbians when they are clearly Albanians, so that the name Serb comes into people's minds as criminals and druglords like Columbians. However, when it suits them on the news they say how Kosovo is Albanian and they've even started calling it Kosova I've noticed recently instead of Kosovo, which is very sly and bad, especially since that is not yet its official first name. But I guess for you as an Albanian you will be happy to hear things like this, but to be honest I don't really care, I've lost interest in Serbian shit. It seems every Serb doesn't want Kosovo to go, but then they vote for Democratic parties which are basically just the American party of Serbia, so I don't care anymore. I don't have a problem with you being an Albanian, if you lived here or I knew you from school or something I could be your friend, but I don't like your anti-Serb attitude man, people like me and you are not on the frontline killing each other, so lets leave that arguing and rivalry to the people at the fronts, not for the people in the DIASPORAS. Regards Stefan

Guest		22-Apr-2007 17:55
Ante, find the deepest hole in your place and hide there. Don't come out even if we call you. You should not be allowed to speak, you evil seed! Go kill yourself and before that, say a prayer of thankfullness to your communist leaders who saved your skin after WWII. If it wasn't for them, we would use our chetnik knives on you, which we will again, to revenge the innocent people you slaughtered. A soldier never kills women and children, only an evil imbecile. You are a disgrace to humanity! I spit on you! Go fuck yourself in your little wienna, you little worm!

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		22-Apr-2007 14:15
To Albanians: Well,dumbass,I write it in Serbian because I know you understand it.I'ts going to be your first language soon.Karam te u dupe siptarsko,a ti Ante tisina...Ti si zapravo cigos,samo se stidis da priznas... Guest,me primam se,samo igram svoju igru ovde...Mogu da nam se sagnu...Ja isto stuidram i imam 19 god. Nekako mi je zanimljivo da se prepucavam sa ovim moronima iz hrvatske i Albanije...Nemaju pojma o cemu pricaju,bitno im je samo da nesto lose kazu...Budale

Ante		22-Apr-2007 14:04
really Tirana is very bad..... of course albanians are a particular case...they need a wash-brain and a civil education for next centuries for become persons with dignity. But Serbia is a land of gypsy. Is incredible as only in Serbia exist a two gypsy parties on Parliament. There are 800000 gypsy, who influenced the mentality of serbs. IN fact serbs know only to be sirty and unheducated. They steal like gypsy, they don't know what meaning to work for development in honest way. We knew to become a modern and developed State we are known as a civil people, everybody know us as Dubrovnik THE JEWEL OF ADRIATIC SEA, Dalmacija, Istria, Zagreb LITTLE WIEN. While Serbia is known only for sad facts and ugly things..

Guest		21-Apr-2007 23:31
because you imbelice can't take the truth... There is nothing in my posts but facts.. if you don't want to read it then don't... and lets see you guys "consider" kosova your heart.... well lets take a look at the word consider at this context shall we?? yes we shall... consider - verb - to think, believe, or suppose. So i guess you guys only suppose or belive it is but you are not certain of it.. while we know this is our land so ya... kinda supid for a gypsie serbian like youself to fight for something you don't even know if it is even yours.... Sure you are better than me in killing people and massacring innocent lives yes I will give you that but at no rate are you better than me at arguing or knowledge about my own home... and just brains in general...

Guest		21-Apr-2007 21:11
You stupid morone: YOUR posts are the longest here, so you have no life! You are dying to prove what can't be proved. Fuck off and eat your heart out because we're so much better than you'll ever be!

Guest		21-Apr-2007 17:34
Guest, you truly must no have a life. Who the hell searches the internet just to show me something I don't even care??? only a serbian going by the gypsie name Guest.

Guest		21-Apr-2007 08:51
Ratko, u pravu si, i ne treba da pricamo sa ovim moronima, a narocito da se primamo na njihove price. Cudi me da im Stefan veruje. Nemaju oni nikakve kuce po Londonu, vec zive ko i sva sirotinja izbeglicka. Ja sam iz Beograda, zivim na Bulevaru Kralja Aleksandra, najduzoj, i jednoj od najlepsih ulica na Balkanu, upravo gledam maraton sa terase! Na 10 minuta od mene je hram Svetog Save, najveci pravoslavni hram na Balkanu. Imam 19 godina i studiram. Ne nerviraj se kad siptari laju, cuvaj zivce i snagu - treba nam da ih isteramo sa svoje zemlje!

Guest		21-Apr-2007 01:36
Stefan... play more volleyball buddy and you will get the hops. That is one sport that purely trains your reflexes and your calves. Do different things the involve your calves. working out doesn't really help, at least for me. I just played and did different things to gain those hops. I was a center/power forward so I neede power and speed.

Guest		21-Apr-2007 01:26
Stefan Serb... Very untrue... Serbian Mafia is very involved in drug deals and many other things including trafficking... The only women that get into this are the ones in rural areas of Albania, and not many from Kosova... To be honest with you not many Albanian women are in there but there are some and they are usually from southern Albania... Most of North including Kosova as well don't do it here because there is a Canon Law that we practice and it is called Kanun and you are most definitely not familiar with it... But what this law really says and let me tell you almost every albanian follow this is that if you harm someone in my family they will chase you by blood meaning they will kill your entire family if they know who you are... they will even chase you to the north pole if they know you are there... So the Albanian Mafia learned their lesson especially in Kosova and North Albania and Montenegro.... Kosova only serves as a drive to Albania but there are no pick ups here because they know what will happen to them... So I dispute your argument. Ratko Kuraci Mladic.... You want to know why we have 100% literacy... because of communism as you may know existed in Albania until the 90s.. So what that meant is that everyone got educated... These are world Statistics and I am not making them up. Oh one more point for you... just because you write in serbian don't think I don't know what you are saying. Plus here is another part... When people search for these things and they see this web site and they scroll down guess what the world will understand reading.. THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE... Guest... my lil Gypsie.. yes I misspelled it.. So what does that mean?? nothing really everyone makes mistakes. At least I am here getting my Masters and soon pHd you can be there being stuck with a word I misspelled bragging about it because you got nothing else to say to me bu that.... Ilir Laki, Mire mire jame edhe familjen krejt mire... flm qysh more e paske lane shkollen.. kthehu ne shkoll haver se te vyn ne jete... Hin qashtu klase ne internet edhe e kryn qashtu bile ni diplome fakulteti. tungiii

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		20-Apr-2007 23:18
To Albanian cunts: Jebacemo mi vas sve I vase majke i oceve I vase sestre i bracu svu Jebacemo dok ne umru Jebo vam ja mater Siptarsku u picku izandjalu,nabijem vas na kurac.Sta bih dao da zivim u Londonu,da vam picke pocepam OVKovske,majku vam mrtvu jebem.Ajde Siptari,nabijem vas na kolac sve,dodjite...E,Albanci,glupi ste ko kurac...Zasto smo otisli sa Kosova,pa zbog Zapada mamicu vam jebem.Aha,vazi sto ste pismeni 100%,Prostitucija zena vam je 100% i vase keve su tu negde jebu se sa camugarima po Londonu.EEE,Siptari,pozdravile vas keve i sestre iz bordela,kaze da im nedostajete da biste ih karali...Jebao bih vamja mamicu,samo da smete da nas pogledate u oci,kar'o bih vas u dupe siptarsko...Sve bih vas sek'o tupim nozem,jednog po jednog,polako i smireno. Stefane nemoj se primas na siptarske price,verovatno hoce policiju da ti zove jer ne sme da se bije,pickica...Aj mi da pricamo izmedju sebe,njih ko jebe,nisu zasluzili da im odgovaramo... Guest, Odakle si,koliko imas godina?Nemoj da obracas paznju na smradove albanske... KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA SERBIA IS EVERLASTING CP6UJA qO CUqHEJA CCCC siptarima SEKIRA

Guest		20-Apr-2007 22:50
Ilir Lika, You wanted a fight in the first place you prick not me, remember? It's OK you don't have to be afraid of me it doesn't count for anything when you are unconscious. I will not post my mobile number on a public forum, and I would advise you not to either. Listen dude my father works on a building site when he has a free day from his perminant job which is 2 days a week. He works all night then sleeps during the day like a fucking bat and then goes to dig people's fucking gardens on his day off. He works like a donkey all so he can provide for me and so I can live comfortably and be successful in later life, and there you are you fucking GREEDY cunt with multiple houses telling me this and that FUCK YOU. Just enjoy your riches and don't bother me asshole, and don't give me shit about how brave Albanians are when the entire World saw 8 years ago that as soon as the Serbs had enough of your shit 2 million of you were out of Kosovo in under a week. Brave men don't run they fight and fall where they stand, not run away then wait for America to bomb the Serbs so they retreat then come in on empty ground and claim a victory. I may not have lived in Balkans but half of my family has and still does. I go there for at least a month every year, that is so far a year of my life has been in former Yugoslavia. My entire village had to go and fight against their former BROTHERS - croatians in Vukovar and many lost their sons and daughters, my Grandfather just told me how every day his next door neighbour would wait at his gate for the post to come and praying that a telegram didn't come to tell of his son's death fighting against men who were his BROTHERS all but a few months earlier! Serbs and Albanians have never been brothers and we never will be, I hate Albanians, I have had numerous fights in GREENFORD on my way home from school I must pass by a school called BRENTSIDE it is full of Kosovar Albanians, they are fucking idiots, typical council estate SCUM with no future, collecting ASBOs and other shit and they try and start trouble with me. I would refer you to my local newspaper from a year or so ago about an "innocent boy" who was attacked on his way home and got his jaw broken, this was not the fucking case, him and 3 of his mates tried to rob me on my way home and I planted my fist into that motherfucker. If you want to fight me and 100 people you are an imbecile, niggers don't even know what Kosovo is let alone be afraid of it. Members of notorious street gangs like MDP and GBH go to my school mate, I am a neo-nazi but they are my friends, this means if i need them i can use them, but if I become prime minister they will become extinct.

Guest		20-Apr-2007 22:36
the_albanian The only thing you can say about Serbia is yes we have a mafia, and it is very powerful, but unlike your Albanian mafia we don't go on the streets of Belgrade and bundle our own women into our cars and kidnap them and take them to Western Europe like you do. The Serbian mafia is one of the "cleanest" mafioso groups in the World. They specialise in contract killings, basically assassinations. You Albanians are well known for your people trafficking, which is the worst part of criminal activity to sexually exploit women and destroy their lives. What makes it worse is that you do it to your own people! I have never played volleyball properly, to be honest basketball is my sport, and of course as with every normal european boy soccer is also what I love. I play for my school teams in both these sports and for basketball I am captain, these English don't know how to play, they always let me shoot unmarked from the perimeter and my shot rate from outside has an 80% success rate when unmarked. I can do 'round-the-leg' lay-ups but I can't incorporate this into a dunk, I simply can't get the height. That's a good vert yo I've been working lots recently on building up my calf muscle so I can increase my jump height, gotta catch up with the niggers you see :P

Guest		20-Apr-2007 22:17
And what about your "illeterate" way? You skipped that, ha? Of course you did, you monkey! You are so easy to see through, pussy!

ILIR LIKA		20-Apr-2007 22:11
TO the_albanian qa bone shqype a je mir familjen qysh e ki sa e pash po studjojshe ne amerik te uroj suksese tash e te ardhmen ti bre burr koke i mir me pas kan ne grupin e kontaktit per kosoven se i myte kta shkiet hall te qoft se pi len pa text tjeter spo di qa me t than diten e mir e gjith te mira tung tung nga londra

ILIR LIKA		20-Apr-2007 21:57
to stefan serb from stefan PS: you want to fight me? Mr Ahbul I am a 17 year old boy, but I will smash you to pieces, I have trained in Higashi Karate for 6/7 years now and I can break you bone by bone. I am not willing to travel to Hampstead for a fight because I have exams now, but if you really want to fight me Mr Ahmed, I am sure we can meet half way, perhaps in Kilburn or Kensal Rise? I have many nigger friends there who would stab you for fun mate ha ha ha you making me smile a lot you dont even know me first think second think i grow up in balkan in kosova the only person and i mean it i am scare and i will be scare is god stefan yankie mate to beat me up or chop me up you must have albanian heart to scare me with niga from kilburn or kensal rise this you can sell it only to a italian student french student etc west europen student which are victims of niga people they get robed killed etc all the time you hear on news somebody got knifed by niga is either other niga or european studen who was in country just maybe two weeks or a month i bet you in money or anything if you tell to your niga friend can you go and kill this albanian man you know the answer they will shit their pants nigas in this country are scare from us because when we kosovan albanian came to this country we teach them a lesson . but anyway if you wana do that pls you are welcome any day any time if you want i can give you my number or give me your number and we will meet each other with you or 100 niga (monkyes). i am serious about that any time!!! let me know if you dont want to give me your number i will give you my phone number the we will take it from there like a man to man face to face BESA BES I WONT CHEAT ON YOU I WILL BE ON MY OWN i admited my english is not good as yours but what can i do when i came to this country i did not go staight to school but labour job working hard and thanks to god now i got my own bussines people work for me!!! i am not mafia i am not a junky boy like you eating every day fish and chips and doner kebap i never have any ASBO in my life either criminal records exept once i went to shepherds bush and i heard to serb man talking in the street while they were walking that was in 2001 i went next to them i swear them and i did fuck them up beat them like a dog nemoj zemo nemoj majko majko they were crying i got arrested by police next day both serbs they did not press charges against me that was good. i pay tax to this cuontry since i come here etc etc yes i got big villa house in hampstead heath 7 bedroom flat with big yard i got three german shephards other house i have is in west hampstead of west end lane nw6 4 bedroom flat with small back garden another house in hendon central 3 bedroom flat with garden in front and the back etc etc all this capital i won it by working as labour in buildings with irish lads i have big family over there in this country we are about 20 of us 4 brother here in uk and 15 cousins , 2 brother in kosova i have we all have a good life here and in kosova you serb people are the poorest people in balkan now i am afraid death to serb nation LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA KOSOVA SOON INDEPEDENT BY THIS SUMMER YES YES YES SERBIA IS GETING SMALLER AND SMALLER EVERY YEAR LIKE NEW MODEL OF NOKIA PHONE HA HA HA HA HA PROUD TO BE ALBANIAN (ILLYRIAN) ARIAN RACE

Guest		20-Apr-2007 21:02
gypsie... "'Oh you care, you can't fool us, you piece of shit! It's YOUR town, not ours! And it's shit, just like you!" I am not from Tirana nor is it my capital.... If you really think you know us you wouldn't say a person from Prishtina is from Tirana.. The differences from Kosova with Albania are so big that there is not way we can unite for another maybe 50 years... that is it for you Stefan Serb yes I live in US in the Midwest.. yes I can dunk in a lot of ways but basketball was not my biggest sport.. it's actually volleyball and soccer... Volleyball prepares the shit out of you for dunking because of the hops, and soccer for speed. I have a vertical of almost a foot, I got some long legs and long arms. But volleyball is one of my favorite sports. I haven't played basketball in a long time because now I am in university studies and work and all that crap so I got no time to continue my sports practices.. And as for your message to Ilir, I would suggest to not really talk about that kind of stuff because I can talk to you for the same things that are the same for Serbians. Almost all Eastern European countries have the same problems and Serbia is no exception.

Guest		20-Apr-2007 19:47
Siptar: "Guest do I really care??? obviously not because I am not even talkin about Tirana... Here is another serbian illeterate in this world... They are just tallying up... " Oh you care, you can't fool us, you piece of shit! It's YOUR town, not ours! And it's shit, just like you! And I don't see how "illeterate" as you put it, has anything to do with my comment?! Are you stupid or what?! YOU are ILLITERATE, because you can't even spell! I bet you're some poor, stupid, ugly piece of crap. Man, fuck off, and leave us alone to enjoy our beautiful city, our beautiful country and people! You stink!

Guest		20-Apr-2007 19:23
the_albanian Yo, those are impressive stats! Where do you live in the USA? I visited New York City on a school excursion a month ago for a week, it was phenominal! I particularly liked Macy's, dude I got some Levis for like £18, if you buy them here they cost £75! Anyway, I don't have much to say because I haven't read most of ur comments, but all I can say is with that height, if you can't dunk in all sorts of ways, you are the whackest motherfucking baller ever to walk the Earth! I gotta good vert so luckily at only 6 foot I can dunk, but 360s and other speciality dunks are still evading me!

Guest		20-Apr-2007 19:22
the_albanian Yo, those are impressive stats! Where do you live in the USA? I visited New York City on a school excursion a month ago for a week, it was phenominal! I particularly liked Macy's, dude I got some Levis for like £18, if you buy them here they cost £75! Anyway, I don't have much to say because I haven't read most of ur comments, but all I can say is with that height, if you can't dunk in all sorts of ways, you are the whackest motherfucking baller ever to walk the Earth! I gotta good vert so luckily as only 6 foot I can dunk, but 360s and other speciality dunks are still evading me!

Guest		20-Apr-2007 19:16
Hi everyone, I can't be bothered to read all that shit, why the hell do you guys have to write so damn much! summarise goddamn it. lol Ilir Lika, Since you directly insulted me I will return the favour. Don't you dare call me the son of a woman who fucked niggers, my mother may have been a bitch in my eyes by remarrying after divorcing but she never fucked any niggers or sleeped around you motherfucker. After all she is French, not Albanian! At least I know who my Mother is you scumbag I bet you have at least 10 to 15 siblings you savage primitive apeman, first you must evolve to be able to talk with me. I am so far above you in both intelect and how I am formed that it cannot even be plotted on a graph. I can't speak good Serbian? I can speak English and French fluently and I can indeed speak Serbian, I have only been learning it for 2 years and from my father in every day life not from a Serbian school or whatever, my grammar needs to improve apart from that I am fine. In a year or so I will have 3 languages around my little finger. You, Mr Ilir you Muslim cunt, can only speak one language, and it is to be disputed as to how well you can speak it. Who are you to tell me I have poor language skills, you have been living here in London ever since you got ran out of Kosovo by the Serbs, that is 8 years now Mr Mohammed, and you cannot even speak proper English. That is truly pathetic, and you say you live in Hampstead one of the most affluent areas of London? Mr Ilir I would like to inquire as to how you were able to come totally illiterate from Kosovo under the bottom of a train, to England, not speaking anything but your obsolete Albanian, and come to live in an area where houses are worth no less than £1 million? If I didn't know better I would call you a criminal! You filthy beast you scumbag, you must be a gangster or mafiaman, it is impossible for you to still be illiterate and live in Hampstead coming from war torn Kosovo! You, like many of your countrymen, took some Albanian women from the streets of Tirana or Pristina, kidnapped them to the West and sold them as sex slaves! Your sisters are on the street corners of London !! I was out one night with my friends in Camden, and we walked around a street corner and these hoes approached us asking if we wanted some "premium Eastern European pleasure", I asked where they were from and they said ALBANIA!! And with that the conversation is ended hahahaha PS: you want to fight me? Mr Ahbul I am a 17 year old boy, but I will smash you to pieces, I have trained in Higashi Karate for 6/7 years now and I can break you bone by bone. I am not willing to travel to Hampstead for a fight because I have exams now, but if you really want to fight me Mr Ahmed, I am sure we can meet half way, perhaps in Kilburn or Kensal Rise? I have many nigger friends there who would stab you for fun mate

Guest		20-Apr-2007 19:08
Guest do I really care??? obviously not because I am not even talkin about Tirana... Here is another serbian illeterate in this world... They are just tallying up... Ratko MotherFucking Mladic... yes you guys are hill-billies you marry your own cousins... typical red-neck honky... Hmm lets compare countries a little but...According to the "The 21st century: World Atlas" published in 2004 the 4th edition, Under Europe... Albania: 100% literacy - Serbia 83% literacy - Moldova 96% Albania: 20% unemployemnt - Serbia: 40% unemployment - Moldova 35% Albania: $421.11 GDP/person - Serbia: $795.36 GDP/person - Modova 1155.91 GDP/person Lets us see.. accoding to the graphs here Serbia population will begin to go down 2020 and by 2040 it is projected to be around 10 million. If you look at the Economic maps... Kosova it is the one filled with non-enegy source mineral resources... Wow look at that Albania has a lower unemployment rate, I guess Moldova "the poorest countryin Europe" amkes way more money than serbia, and I guess Albania doesn't have $75 per capita here.... $75 makes Mozambique.... Now since you don't have Montenegro anymore the only solution for your country survival is to use those Tobbacco fields, and Sugar beets (tobaco around Novi Banovci, and arond Cacak.... Sugar beets aour Kula in Vojvodina, and Velika Plana)... That will be your savior... So I guess the reality is not as sweet as you think it is... When citizens pick up arms, that is called Militia not terrorists.... As for your posts in every post I have read.. "albanian scum... Kosova is ours... suck dick.." got anything smarter to say??? because you guys have the faith of the greeks and you know greeks are like slavs a lot of homosexuals.... so that wouldn't really fit a kosovar descirption but a serbian one very very well.. You guys even look the same... Buddy you lost the war and the battle... When someone from the outsides comes, think about this look at the American war against britain... The british lost because they don't know the territory and same thing with the Serbs they lost it because they don't belong there.... You call us pussies and serbs heros but why did serbs leave if you are saying kosova will be yours until serbs are gone... I would suggest to go study a little more about history and look at it from two perspectives and not just from your brainwashed professors.... Look at what your government does to you... When they came to Washington, your president sent a message to Serbia saying and I quote... "The UN security council did not even look at the Marti Ahttisari's plan, we won kosova back..." that will be in your dreams... this is how dumb you guys are and only need propaganda.. during the Nato Bombings... TV Belgrade 1 reported 15 airplanes shut down when only 2 were actually hit. Rugova was actually a christian from the beginning. He never converted. So there it goes there are Albanian Catholics still living... Well lets see who supports the independce of Kosova if Russia Vetos... US, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Austria, Belgium, Netherlands, Albania, Greece, Turkey, Israel, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Canada, Mexico, Argenituna, India, Pakistan, Egypt, Spain, Portugal, Monaco, Vatican, Belarus, Poland, Bosnia, Hungary, Croatia, Australia, New Zeland, Japan, and so on....yo guy will have to suck all their dicks along with Kosovar Dicks.... which let me tell you serbian women in US love it

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		20-Apr-2007 14:40
To Albanian Yes,I know what an implant is,but implanted or not(I'd say not)it is OURS!You didn't figure out the connection I made,stinky Alb.And you can suck our cocks with pleasure.My posts don't contain the same stuff,I'm just replying to you and your lies,everything you say I deny,and I'm getting the impression you are the one who is writing the same things in every post. If citizens volunteered than you have many terror citizens...I'm not from London,I'm from Belgrade,you stupid fuck,didn't even read my previous comments.Ohhh you stupid motherfucker,how come God even made a present for you by giving you a brain-They're helping you because when Kosovo is independent(which is NEVER,as long as the last Serb lives) they can open their companies in it and exploating all natural and other reasources of our sacred land,you stupid dicksucker.Yeah and what about thousands of our Medieval churches and monasteries???They couldnt have been built in 90's,dumbass...I was on Kosova in Albanian surrounding as a 10 year old kid and I know how you treated us,you stupid assholes...Anyway why should you build churches and mosques on Kosovo?My friends came into a mosque near the Suvi Do and let the Serbian marsh-song:MARS NA DRINU and all people heard it through the minaret and sent an applause.Are we building churches and temples in Albania???Why should you do the same on our land?? Albanian and Jewish lobbies are doing everything they can,using the influence in the world to separate Kosovo so that minors could be theirs...xa xa That's why you're good with Jews...Yeah,and if Hitler liked you how come you let Jews in your territory?Isn't it illogical?Dicksucker you are a hell a good liar.Ha ha''we were scared'and you were running away-illogical again,over and over!!!Go get lay for a change...And to build anything you need a promission from authorities,not your own willingness!UCK stoped you for doing so,they are Muslim and get the money from Al Qaida and islamistic terroristic lobbies.Stick it in your dirty asses..PUSSIES PUSSIES PUSSIES PUSSIES PUSSIES>>ALBANIANS ARE BIG PUSSIES PUSSIES PUSSIES RUNNING AWAY FROM SERBS LA LA LA LA LA HIDING BEHIND NATO AND GIVE NATO ALL THEIR ASSES TO FUCK THEM AND IN RETURN TO BE PROTECTED FROM SERBS LA LA Yeah I could put a sand in 6000 coffins and say:oh,look what they've done to us,buaaaa...If you want to see the question read my posts you lazy ass of a horse...You wanna say something in my face??come on asshole,I'm waiting 4 u,would be the happiest man to see you dare such thing,I'll butcher you immediately,motherfucking cock of Rugova,suck all Serbian dicks...And Greek,Russian,Chinese,Bulgarian,Macedonian,Romanian,and so on dicks............... I WILL FROM NOW ON ANSWER YOU IN SERBIAN BECAUSE I KNOW YOU KNOW IT KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA SERBIA IS EVERLASTING CP6UJA qO CUqHEJA UBIJ,ZAKOLJI,DA SIPTAR NE POSTOJI SSSS

Guest		20-Apr-2007 07:16
Tirana je katastrofa!!!! Ovo je iz proslog veka, jel'da? Ne mogu da verujem da su ovo slike jednog glavnog grada u Evropi! Pa ovo je blam! A ako se pitas zasto vas podrzavaju vasi prijatelji sa zapada, jadni siptaru, to je zato sto ste im dali da rade sta hoce kod vas. I nista drugo. Vi ste jedno pleme pecinskih ljudi sa odvratnim njuskama koje bih poznao u hiljadu ljudi!

Guest		20-Apr-2007 02:38
Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero I am sure you live in England... please learn what a reply is and what a paragraph is along with how it is formatted. Try to reply in one place and not 3 different posts with the same content What are your questions...

Guest		20-Apr-2007 02:30
Guest.., another pathetic answer a??? you can't come with anything better... you don't even understand that I am not from Tirana... you stupid fuck... your comments are ludicrous... You really think I got anything better to do then look at those photos which I could care less. All I can tell you is that I know beautiful Albanian women and I have a beautiful family... I could care less what you think... you are obviously wasting time and probably don't even have a life. Wow just because I live in the US you think I wouldn;t be able to post such comments. I would do it anywhere any place. I would even say it to your face. I am not the only person who does this to serbs... my family did it for half a century and you guys couldn't do shit about it... ahahah what a pussie you can't handle the truth... how can you compary two armies... serbia got an organized army... you took away our autonomy and of course we had no army, you could not compare two armies that one was a nation of fully funded and another was just full of citizens who volunteered and just took arms in hand... Yeah he quit because if he didn't his head would be chopped like the middle easterns did to americans... Yeah you killed 2000 bosnians but 8000 were buried.. you are truly an idiot... This is a public web site not private and is open to the world and they could see it what the hell you talk. If you think I am provoking you... hah in your dreams I am telling you the truth. Mos of the stories of the massacras were told by children and as you may know children never lie because they are easily influenced and they tell the truth when under the pressure. Well if Albanians are able to kill their own countrymen then Serbs probably did the same thing to show victims.. you are an idiot.. i actually thought you were smarter but apparently not. ahahah you may not know what an Implant is don't you... hmmm you don't even see the connection you poor little teenager... Kosova was always the heart of Albania... and what happened yugoslavia was doing poorly and the western powers said ohhh Serbia here is a heart for you... make it yours... btu obviously it wasn't your heart so you lost it because someones heart never works in anothers... Use your brain buddy... where is your serbian logic??? But now think about it buddy why are western powers helping us??? well there is obviously something wrong with the serbians.... you guys came into kosova like that south korean in VT... Buddy did you even read the Memorandum of 1980's and 1940-50s??? you probably didn't because if you were born in Serbian you actually studied that document and it shows how many german, english, swedish, french, and Italian travelers saw what was going on... And think about this... if Kosova was ur heart why in the world would you burn fields and mountains while you are leaving it??? Do you know that almost half of he serbians don't even care or cared for Kosova... All you guys ever wanted is TREPCA because as you might know it is one of the riches mines in Europe along with the largest coal deposit in Europe... you just want the natural resources you care less for the damn churches because they were new anyways... YOu guys build like 200 churches in the 90s.... you guys made them strong and who the hell builds a church in front of a Library... but as you maybe know all the churches that were started and stopped are going to be Albanian Catholic/orthodox churches... 17 churches were build along the road from Prishtine - Gjakove, 10 churches in Deqan... You guys really wanted to show that you are from there but only the locals know that they are brand new.... over 800 mosques were destroyed... the Albanian Church in Ulpiana was destoyed and killed the priest... Maybe you heard of Anton Cetta and his group that did blood reconciliation they were banned to be done publicly because the serbs never wanted to see Albanians get along with each other.... You were scared... Buddy were you even born in Kosova??? Did you even live in an Albanian Neighborhood??? You crealy don't know... and Sure don't reply to me I will just write here...

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		20-Apr-2007 01:55
Of course there are many Albanians in Italy-they sent their daughters to fuck with the Italians and that's how they all now Albanian,and how all of you are relatives,noone knows who fucks whose wife and daughter.The reason why we didn't manage to conquer some lands,which are ours by your point of view is that they are like you(I mean of Croatians and Bosniaks)they called UN and NATO(Croats)and muslim terrorists from every fucking country in the Africa and Asia(Bosniaks)P U S S I E S,the big ones...you are the same ''warriors''and ''heroes'' as your brothers Italians-sitting in your homes,pardon-work-offices and shitting about your bravery,and when someone sais war took hold of your country you piss in your pants,especially when Serbs are involved in war.Don't you have a girlfriend or something-squander your energy on her or on someone of your friends in bordel for alow price,you can't do any better,I'm sure.We have invested in it,but Albanians took lot of money to raise their numerous kids.Yeah,but that China has''only''1200000000 citizens(oh,yeah,and they posses nuclear weapon-perfect opportunity to test one bomb on Albanians)poof and Albania is heart of Serbia.Go to site mentioned bellow,and see who is actually Aryan.You didn't answer about q's I asked in last post.Ok implanted,whatever,ours it is!!!Thank you,friend,finally you realized that it doesn't belong to you.I love you. I WILL DISCUSS WITH YOU NO MORE OF ANY SUBJECT OR LIKELY.YOU ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE PUSSIES HIDING BEHIND POWERFUL FORCES. KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA ALBANIA IS COCK OF SERBIA SERBIA IS EVERLASTING picko siptarska,jel te to mama naucila srpski,ili cika koji ti je dobronamerno zapalio kucu? Pi-cko Si-pta-rka Pi-cko Si-pta-rka

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		20-Apr-2007 01:54
Ok,if you want to speak that way.Actually you don't have right because you're in part of the site which is dedicated to Serbian city,so I can do it,but you can't cause thingsa you are talking about are not connectem to theme of this site.It couldn't be more obvious that you live in USA,as long as you place those comments about Serbs.In Srebrenica were killed about 2000 Bosniaks(so called,they are in fact islamised Serbs,orthodox earlier)and 1000 Serbs by Bosniak troops.It's not nice from you to place here this American and Serb-hatred false information.I can't understand a man who is in America,working/studying or whatever and who posts on site for a country which he doesn't originate from every single day.Ohhh yesss,we must have destroyed ''your'' monuments,ohhh yesss Skenderbeg was a hero ohhh yesss Kosovo is not Serbian,ohhh yesss you are talll,ohhh yesss you didn't kill your own people in Rachak,alliens must have done it...ohh yesss,now you're telling the second most successfull country in basketball that tall Albanian played better than the guys from a Serbian national team(many were in Zvezda and Partizan). You are such a dumbass-sure-how can a group of 100 people ask million people if they were anti or pro-Milosevic.Stop bullshiting.Yes I think Albanian will kill million of his compatriots if necessary.Ok,you take Mladic for a war criminal.AAaaand???You can all suck his dick,he probably fucks your neighbour in who you were in loved while living in your homeland in bordel somewhere every day.Milosevic proved it in the Hague what Rachak really was.With dozens of false witnesses by Albanian side he proved what really happened there.Ha ha,strong you are on your faith,I expect you soon to be budists and Dalay Lama to have your photography in his chamber.You were not fired,I represented to you what your man,.Albanian,Riza Halimi said-he resigned as any of you because he is a pussy,as any of you.Rugova was burried as a catholic,so that West Europe would interest for independent Kosovo.Yeah,better to be a blu-eyed Serb with contacts than a Aryan Albanian looking like a gypsy.Ok if you love our territory so much why don't you have balls to fight with us for it without UN and NAto and others?Because you are pussies,i said PUSSIES,P-U-S-S-I-E-S...albanian=pussy...ha ha,guy who was born in most terroristical,drug-selling-prostitution exporting,incesting nation tells me my country is evil.Stick it in your black-eagled ass. KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA CP6UJA qO TOKUJA

Guest		20-Apr-2007 00:28
FACES OF "ARYAN" ALBANIANS (ugliness warning) : www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr36iii_files/albmix.jpg www.ehponline.org/members/2004/112-17/albanians.jpg news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1225000/images/_1227432_albanians_ap300.jpg www.calvarymagazine.org/ssl/images/albanians_look_at_mag.jpg imo2006.dmfa.si/images/20060711/slika30.jpg operationkosovo.kentlaw.edu/symposium/resources/collaku-My%20Disertation_files/image031.jpg www.research.umbc.edu/efhm/4/tammer/grafix/skop9.jpg www.jimriverreport.com/china/20060609/P6090528.JPG (VERY INTERESTING!!!) albania.usaid.gov/(1a02u3451osqdqmjqzg5mbvo)/Images/Photo.744.aspx

Guest		20-Apr-2007 00:19
old city center of tirana www.cjseymour.plus.com/albania/pics/p28a.jpg

Guest		20-Apr-2007 00:01
The_albanian, man nobody reads you comments with 2 particular reasons, one is they are long and boring the second is they are stupid ... Go to some shitty tirana gallery and spam your stupidities there, and aren't you ashame to sign your self up as "the_albanian"?, you are still the poorest, ugliest and filthiest country of Europe.. Sto se nas Srba tice cini mi se da bi trebali da prestanemo da odgovaramo na siptarske gluposti, tj da se prestane spika na engleskom.. pozdrav

Guest		20-Apr-2007 00:01
your language is so arrogant and vulgar that whenever you talk people will think that you are cursing at them.... Your leaders are so stupid that when Wesley Clark and the Nato generals came to belgrade to warn you guys that if you don't stop with the genocide they will bomb you, you guys laughed because you thought the Russian friend was going to support you and you know what the famous WEST did??? they just bombed your ass for 74 days and you "Mother" Russia couldn't do a thing about it... and that is what will happen if Russia will try to Veto the UN security council thing... But who will support us.. almost the rest of the world except China and Russia... but who cares about them when the rest of the world supports us....

Guest		19-Apr-2007 23:55
Te biti jednak govno ace Rus ipak pobožnost s jedan razlièit natpis

Guest		19-Apr-2007 22:23
siptar, jedi govna

Guest		19-Apr-2007 21:58
guest... first you are in an American web site so technically you have no right to talk in serbian... so yeah if u can talk in serbian I have every right to talk in albanian you lil "gypsie" you probably as dark as them anyways.. Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero first I would like to denouce you of your Mladic Heroism.... "Mladiæ, along with other Serbian leaders, were indicted on charges of genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes by the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia in The Hague in connection with the siege of Sarajevo and the massacre of around 8,000 Bosniak men on July 11, 1995 in Srebrenica. There is currently an outstanding international arrest warrant against Mladiæ following the Rule 61 of ICTY which concluded that there are reasonable grounds for believing that the accused has committed the crimes in question including genocide. The United States government has since offered a $5 million reward for his and Radovan Karadžiæ's arrests. He is still at large." About our monuments... As i said there were hundreds of them which were centuries old but you know what happened to them?? they were destroyed... As for the skanderbeg our hero... well why would he want to be in a cathedral when he is in Rome the center of the Roman empire.. You see Skenderbeg had a lot of relations with the Italians which is why there were a lot of Catholic Albanians in Italy thousands actually because whe the Ottomans took over Albania they fled to Italy on the southern in Bari, Calabria and Sicily. You can go there and Find people who speak perfect Albanian. There is a Statue of Skenderbeg in Italy so yeah... you had the support of bunch of hungarians who couldn't hold off the Ottomans while albanians were able to do that for 25 years straight.. very sad that bunch of "locals" which actually is not true, were able to keep an army away from their lands and a Kingdom was unable. For arkan... ahh he is another leader like your other so called hero Mladic... who actually was in Kosovo. The reason why serbia failed in many places is because you are trying to conquer a land where the people have been living there for centuries. Who do you think knows your house better.. yourself or an outsider. For the tallness have you heard of Ferid Zegolli??? ohh you must know him 7'4 albanian basketball player from prishtina... ohhh was he good he killed partizan and zvezda in basketball back in 80's... ohhh he must be very short... Jobs... buddy I can tell you in 1990 when serbian police took over kosova, they came to every governmental workplace and by the door asked everyone one by one if they were pro or against milloshevic and of course we were anti and they said go home you are fired... the last mayor of Prishtina was albanian in 1988 and after that all the mayors of every albanian city in kosova were serbian... A big big sign of hatred and control. Mayors are not appointed but they are elected. So yes you are genocide people... your predictions are correct... you are calling your own people genocide makers... this is good your fist step is called Acceptance.. after you lose kosova you will go through depression.. and so on... Ohhh massacras you are trying to use that old ass trick... you gyus killed your own people... you are one little idiot... that was done with the russians as well you little brother with the chechens... this is excactly what they said.. "They are killing their own people..." Buddy have u ever heard of the Kanun??? that is an Eye for an Eye... if you think one Albanian will kill another to show massacras trust me there would have been no KLA... you clearly don't know our culture... You are blue eyed... yes with contacts yes you are very blue eye... Well you see all you serbians did was name almost every person a terrorist even our former president Rugova which he clearly wasn't... The rest I will comment later because I am at work.... But you say "Kosova is the Heart of Serbia" yes it is its implanted heart because you stole it from others. so really you shoudl say... "Kosova is our Implanted Heart of Serbia" because it never was it never will be.. If it was you would have invested in it.

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		19-Apr-2007 15:08
To Stefan My name is Uros. I'm glad you liked it,it's a true everybody know it exept these bastards from Alb.and USA I’m 192cm,90kg.Even if I was 165 cm and 45 kg I’d still have bigger heart and power from those Alb.pussies.Jel znas da pricas srpski?Mislim da ne bi citali jebeni Siptari sve… Best regards to you,Orthodox brother… SAMO SLOGA SRBINA SPASAVA

Stefan		19-Apr-2007 15:06
There are 2 Stefans, I'm one of them, and i'm not Stefan Serb :D

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		19-Apr-2007 15:04
About Arkan and General Mladic you don’t know a bare truth.Arkan was killed because being a first man of Serbian mafia.He was killed by a Serb who is now in prison you dumbass.And his paramilitary troops were not on the Kosovo.And they would have turned their Albanian stinky asses if they had been innocent.Where is the logic in your sentences?Many Serbs had turned themselves in because they were innocent but tribunal in Hague kept them even the indictment were not written against them!!!And your war criminals Ramus Haradinaj,Agim Ceku,Hashim Taci and many others are free.Slobodan Milosevic did not fire them,they ran away because they were frightened(Riza Halimi,mayor of Presevo which is north of the Kosovo)said in political Tv show that he was frightened and he resigned as the professor.If we are genocidic people why should we let Albanian to be the mayor,to be in a Government? I will mention just one massacre by your side,even tough I know abut hundreds-in Rachak you killed your own people who were on our side and graft it to us in front of the whole world.YOU were raiping,YOU were killing,YOU were burning our houses,YOU commited crimes against humanity. For the tallness how did that site got to those information?Did they measured everyone’s tallness after aged 18?What are you talking about idiot?I was on the Kosovo and never seen either one Albanian who is tall.You are telling falsehoods.If you’re of that size you’re probably the highest Albanian on the world,probably the captain of your basketball team in high-schoopl for mentally retarted children.And the most important thing-YOU ALBANIANS TOGETHER WITH WEST EUROPE AND USA ARE BIG PUSSIES.You Albanian shits are hiding beyond UN and KFOR,and they’re like protecting us from you.ha ha ha when our military forces and police held Kosovo before the war you were willing to eat your own shits if we ordered you to.As for your mafia,you have the strongest European maf,even stronger than Russian,you threw them off from the Greek narcotic market. To Ilir Lika-Fuck you dickhead.Just thank Usa and Britain,shithead.Get a fuck away from this forum and go fuck your sisters in bordel. CP6UJA qO TOKUJA KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA DEATH TO ALBANIA

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		19-Apr-2007 15:03
To Albanian(s) Oh,my God...It's now I see that you're so dumb...You're wrong about many things.How did Slavs held only northern part of Europe?We Got down from the North.And that's why we had blue eyes and hair,by geting down those characteristics were lost by Slavs.We have several groups:East Slavs(Russians,Ukraines,Belorussians),West Slavs(Slovaks,Czechs,Pols,Luczick Serbs) and South Slavs(Serbs, Bulgarians, Croats, Macedonians,Slovenians).As pseudo-Stefan wrote-no evidence exists that you lead your origin from Illyrians.You are also connected with Ancient Greeks,who,by the way held those ''Illyrian''lands many centuries before your faked offsprings came.So it's a bit stupid to say you've always posessed those territories.I can say Slavs are the oldest tribe on the planet.I can say you’re Slavs,also,but I have no evidence.I asked you about your monuments to see if you really consider them as Albanian which I seemed to have every reason for.For example thousands of cultural historic sites and objects in Turkey are greek-origin.Turks took away their land after the catastrophe of Little Asia in 1922.They took Cyprus also and pronanced it their territory and now it’s a country with 90%Greeks and 10%Turks.Celts were in this region because many of later Serbs were mixed with Celts,as historians are claiming.And YES there is evidence of Celts living here,about Albania I have to check it out,but their presence was valid.Many fortresses in Serbia were built by them.They were the first ever and possibly the only tribe who had custom to drink blood.In Serbia,especially in its East parts you have a tradition of believing in vampires,creatures which under the fool-moon drink human blood.’’Vampire’’ is the only Serbian word(vampir,original)which entered every other language in the world.Also Slavs had very big effect on Byzantine empire.So I can not understand you when you said you were older than us.You cited some monuments,type of buildings,blah blah,blah.Albanian tradition doesn’t know of such big battle as Kosovo battle.Your uprisings were only local.European noblemen were visiting Serbian royals on their way to Jerusalim for Crusade wars.If Skenderbeg was so important in giving them a help why did they repay him by picturing him in some unessential cathedral or wherever?Your language is a composure of many European languages-tell us an Albanian word for ‘’letter‘’and make us laugh a bit.Serbs were under Ottoman rule also but we manged to remain orthodox,mostly,ok if you like better-Christians.But you pussies give your asses to Turks for a piece of bread while we were starving for our faith. KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA SERBIA IS EVERLASTING

Guest		19-Apr-2007 08:35
Sipci, mars sa ovog foruma sa tim svojim poganim jezikom. Ovo je forum o BEOGRADU i vama ovde nema mesta sa tim parolama.

Guest		19-Apr-2007 00:56
Oh ska perse haver... ska dert po qishtu me ja u qa ment se spo kan em qka me bo vec rrasen e mundohem me sha femra e nuk kan naj ide tjeter... Po mos ta nin une jetoj ne SHBA edhe eheh gati perfekt e di shqipen edhe anglishten... Po kaja nanen qishtu duhet.. mos u shazdis shume se menyra e vetme qe munesh me i mujt keta muta osht me fjale e me fakte... tung tung e te fala edhe ti... the_albanian

Guest		19-Apr-2007 00:22
Oh ska perse haver... ska dert po qishtu me ja u qa ment se spo kan em qka me bo vec rrasen e mundohem me sha femra e nuk kan naj ide tjeter... Po mos ta nin une jetoj ne SHBA edhe eheh gati perfekt e di shqipen edhe anglishten... Po kaja nanen qishtu duhet.. mos u shazdis shume se menyra e vetme qe munesh me i mujt keta muta osht me fjale e me fakte... tung tung e te fala edhe ti... the_albanian

ILIR LIKA		18-Apr-2007 22:23
to stefan serb you mother fucker as 17 year old boy in Britain you are also most likely to skip breakfast and top up on snacks during the day, perhaps because you mother french bitch she is a bitch fucking around with niga your father do not have the time to look after you because even your father he is a pice of shit chetnik gypsi from serbia as emigrant in uk you mr stefan serb you dont even speak good serbian language either dont know nothing about balkan you know shit about balkan people you filthy son of the french bitch telling us in this forum albanian like this serbs like this go and fuck your self you pice of shit go and have a fish and chips or jacket potato because you grow up in junk food you are a poor boy come to me i give you a job with good rate you can clean shit of my dogs in my yard and do my garden i will give you a propel food albanian food balkan food i told you beafore i live at hampstead heath any time you welcome or you can meet me whenever i am 6,1" tall 95kg very muscular lets tray our force me and you but i am afraid as a serb boy from french mother you must have rabit heart especially you grow up in uk oh mama mia i can imagine you just talk bla bla bla like niga mate i thing you have not meet yet a balkan man especially albanian they will give a you a propal answer about albanian you saying albanian women are ugly ha ha ha ha i dont blame you cz you never seen any albanian women in your life albanian women are the most beautiful women in balkan instead they are poor arian race not like serb women like banglo women they look very dark go and fuck your self you pice of shit you are not even a poor serb fuck off go in french forum or english forum soon and i mean soon by end of summer or mayber next month KOSOVA will be indepedent country yeah thanks to AMERICA and GREAT BRITAIN god bless both countries we are illyrian all world know that we are arian all world know that exept serbs ha ha ha who fuck are serbs filthy nation long live GREAT ALBANIA remmeber in within 10-15 years te fala ke shum shoki bravo e hallall te qoft se i myte me fjal kta chetnikt Youngsters in Britain consume more sweets and fizzy drinks than any others in Europe, fuelling an obesity crisis linked to ill health and early death. Ten to 13-year-olds eat an average of £128.40 of confectionery a year - which is equivalent to 1,167 two-finger KitKat bars or almost 400 Cadbury Creme Eggs.

Guest		18-Apr-2007 19:56
Guest... You are trying to get away from the argument. If you don't believe me that i am Albanian aka SHQIPTAR not "shiptar" learn how to spell. Stefan.... Just what I expected. Pretty pathetic answer. I really did not ask you about what people looked or what they did. Because as a matter of fact I really don't care what you think... I am 194 cm. 95 Kg, very built and plays basketball, voleyball and soccer. So please do not tell me because almost everyone in my family is at least 180 cm tall. So your claim of tallness is falacious and stupid. As for people covering themselves up, that has been abolished long time ago when the Partizans came in there. You have "SELANKAS" all over serbia which cover themselves up. So again here is another false claim. You are trying to get away from the real argument by going to something else... As for our women, I shall tell you that my family is very educated with pHd politicians, doctors, engineers, computer engineers, programmers, economists, accounting, architects, etc... Serbia has areas where people are not even educated and so does every country all over the world. Serbian, Albanian, and almost every country in the Balkans women were covered. And as a matter of fact only the really old women cover themselves up because in the 30s-90s the King Zog and Enver Hoxha abolished and made it against the law for Albanian Women to Cover Themselves up. In 1942 in Kosova when the Partizans entered in, all the women were ordered to remove their veils. So again another false claim.... You are talkin ou of your mounth and with your convenience I am actually giving you facts. As for the beauty of women, I could care less of what you think is pretty because serbian women and men tend to have flat heads and a very slavic complex. You can tell a serbian women because of that 2000 Km away. In other parts of te world. As for our educations, all serbians know that when TITO approved to build the University of Prishtina and be taught in Albania, that was the biggest hit for the serbians. You guys went crazy that we were given the right to be taught in our own language because that would mean we would get our own educators and doctors and everything. The Illyrians claim Kosova because first of the ancient Madedonian maps show that there were Illyrians living north of their empire. Second, the Romans showed when they conquered Illyria it included Ulpiana which is in Prishtina. So what does that mean??? Kosova is part of Illyria. I shall we awaiting your answers and please stay on topic instead of going off on something that has nothing to do with what I am talkin about. Very poor defensive.

Guest		18-Apr-2007 17:13
Serbian guy who likes Matko Mladic, what is your name? I liked this a lot: "Your claimings about Illyrs are as funny as your people's pretensions.Hey in history tribes and men changed borders and lands as we nowadays change our underwear.So,for you it's normal for Mongols to have the whole Russia and Ukraine,part of the China and Arabs to have all of the Asia,south Africa and middle France.Irish and Scotsmen to have all north France and Belgium,with Holland and north Italy??I think it's not normal thing to even think about..." I totally agree with you!! These Illyrian claims to Kosovo from 1000BC or whatever are totally ridiculous, most borders were finally drawn up by the start of the 20th century, but there go the Albanians like the primitive undeveloped tribesmen that they are, "conquering" and stealing land in the 21st century as if it was still 1000BC, I am quite liberal with my stuff, and I don't like to insult unless I am first insulted, but you Albanians are lucky the USA came to your aid in 1999 or not one of you would be left standing. Regards and bye for now. Stefan CCCC Sieg Heil

Guest		18-Apr-2007 16:57
Hello I don't know who this other Stefan dude is but he is not me. My name is Stefan Serb, if you click on my name it is a hyperlink, that is how you can tell the difference. I can't remember who said Albanians are tall, unfortunately you are not, and your people are very ugly. You can call yourselves Aryan or whatever you want but to me you look a lot like Iraqis or Turks, and I have never met or seen a pretty Albanian woman, they are all distgustingly ugly. That is how I know that all your "rape stories by serbian soldiers" are false, because Albanian women in Kosovo are like Somalians, they have to cover themselves all up and they are extremely ugly, commonly as a result of incestry many years ago. You can falsify whatever you want, but I am a 17 year old guy and I know which girls are good looking and which ones aren't! And here in London, I have noticed that a lot of Armenian girls are beautiful, and lots of Greek and Spanish girls are very pretty. Also, there are a few English girls who are hot as well, because the majority is still English. But I can tell you, from the bottom of my heart I swear to God that the best looking girls I have ever seen are Serbian girls! I have been to Belgrade and Banja Luka amongst other Serbian cities, and I would estimate that 70% of the girls are amazingly good looking, but of course not all 100% can be gifted with those genetics. This is comparing to, in my opinion, 40% of Greek/Armenian girls and maybe 5-10% of English girls. So far my opinion of Albanian girls is 0%, but hey I am open minded so I won't say there are zero hot Albanian girls, so I would estimate at 1 or 2%. I tell the truth with this type of stuff, there is no reason for me to lie, and I wouldn't have mentionned it had it not been for false claims from Albanians who want to give their race a better name. For me girls are not the only telling of a good race, and unlike you Shiptari I'm not going to say Serbs are Aryan, because that would be a lie. I have a different concept from Hitler himself of what is Aryan, I think it is down to the individual. Of course as a straight man I can see which women are beautiful and have great features, and naturally I can also see which man is handsome and who is not. So for me, an Aryan person, is somebody with a high IQ, well proportioned facial features and a mesomorphic body. An entire race for me is not Aryan. There can be races where a majority of people contain these characteristics, such as Germans or Scandanavians or Russians, but for me it is down to the individual. You may argue I am wrong, but I am going to tell the truth again which none of you would in this situation. The reason I believe it is down to the individual is because I am a half-breed between the two sides of Europe. So does this make me inferior or scum? hahaha I would hope not, in my eyes I am not. I will again remind you that I am 17 years old, I am tall and I have an athletic physique, I am 186cm tall, and 78 kilograms. I am well formed and it serves me well when it comes to picking up girls whether it be at parties or at school/college. But I am not some sex mad typical teenage idiot, I have other interests too, such as politics, which is why I post on this website. Now in my eyes I am an Aryan man, I have good family values, I am well formed both physically and mentally, and I support fascism for a cleaner, safer and better Europe. I have never met an Albanian who is well formed physically and mentally, from both genders, from my experiences they are ugly, primitive and to me they all look the same! I can always spot a Shiptar it is amazing! Here whenever I am with my Dad I can point out Shiptars on the street! I am not lying I swear to God let me get punished if I am lying, but I am not, I am telling the absolute truth that I can ALWAYS spot Shiptars, they always have the same demeanour, same facial features, and the same general style. So you can lie and brag and talk shit all you want about how Albanians are Illyrians and are beautiful and amazing and Aryan and tall but you are none of those. Sorry to tell you but it is true, I am 17 but I can guarantee I have fucked more hot girls than you have in your entire life, that is if you combine Ilir Lika's and every other Albanian who has posted here's records together. Regards and sieg heil! Stefan

Stefan		18-Apr-2007 13:47
Ps. All albanians were unliterate until the beginning of the 20'th century, when they got the written form of the albanian language

Stefan		18-Apr-2007 13:43
yes yes.. albanians were on Axis side, and they shelter Jews... That's also Serbian propaganda (yeah right) .. I read "Mein Kampf", Hitler never mentions any albanians.. Whatever, I feel sorry about you poor albanian imigrant, you could write anything you want you still know that you are a member of the poorest nation in Europe, that is closer to animal behavior than to human, so feel free to call yourself Aryan or whatever you like, we all really know what the truth is.. especially you.

Guest		18-Apr-2007 07:08
No, you're not a student, and you're not a shiptar. You are just scum.

Guest		18-Apr-2007 01:23
Guest.... What in the world would make you think that an Albanian would not be able to speak/write English??? You don't even know who I am or where I come from... All you know is that I am Albanian.... Just so you know I am a student in an American University and I do not need people to write for me. Stefan... This are is no sense for your due to your Serbian propaganda. Unfortunately we are Aryans because the Illyrian race is Aryan. Thousand of Families did shelter Jews during WWII and it can be proven... Just search for Jews in Albania. You will see all the testimonies. And I will speak from my family which did shelter them. You are not aware of our "Kanuni i Leke Dekagjinit" or in English would be "Cannon of Leke Dukagjinit" which lays laws of people who come to seek refuge. So please do not use your defensive mechanisms on me because they look ridiculous. As for the population boom, you should blame your own president "TITO" who gave money to people who had over 9 children. So that as a motivation and you should blame others. For the 20th century according to ASHRSH, fund MKK. D-7, doc. 707936. Turkish statistics of 1911 912,902 inhabitants lived in the Vilayet of Kosova, out of whom 743,040 were Albanians, 53,396 Bulgarians, 106,209 Serbs, 20,009 Jews and 5,043 Romanizes... And believe me Ottomans were some of the greatest record keepers for their empire... The District of Prishtina, including the regions of Prishtina, Vushtria, Gjilan, Llap and Ferizaj, had 71 communes with 628 villages, with 6,787 Serbian houses and 26,288 Albanian houses. Oh wait that outnumbers... so I guess 20th century we were the majority anyways from the beginning. This is before the Ottomans drew the borders for the Albania which actually included Kosova in it. Albanians were unable to write their language due to fear... Serbs got their language due to your friend Austro Hungarians for supporting the insignificant Serbian kingdom which for the Turks was no match. Yet that is why they build a castle with your heads. At least the Albanians held the Turks for 25 years during Skanderbeg’s time and another 10 after his death. Serbs just fell... how weak you were a kingdom and you fell to Turks. Until the 16th century, almost all of Albania was Christian, the Roman Catholic religion being dominant in the north and the Orthodox religion in the south. In the 17th century, the Turks began a policy of Islaminization by using, among other methods, economic incentives to convert the population (for example, some Albanians who adopted Islam received land and had their taxes lowered). By the 19th century, Islam became predominant in Albania with about 70% of the population while some 20% remained Orthodox and 10% Roman Catholic. As for 19th century I do not know because I never researched that. But please enlighten me and do not use web sites such as www.kosovo.com (all propaganda) and wikipedia.com (anyone could write anything there)... As for our Aryan Origin... please find the book which Hitler wrote (i am sure you know what I am talking about) and read it carefully. And here are some facts that Albanians are Aryans. First there are many Albanian blue eyed and blonde. Second there are parts of Albanian which are pure and their DNA's were taken by the IIT (Illinois Institute of Technology) and analyzed by many of the nations which are believed to be of Aryan Descent such as the Germans, and they were very closely matched. And yes we are Aryans. Despite your opinion on our looks, yet we still have a pure beautiful race. As for the mafia. I shall stand upon my position that Serbian mafia is very much involved in assassinations, drug dealing, arm trafficking, human trafficking, etc... And everything is done in name of Serbia/nationalism... Yes Albanians have one of the strongest mafia in Europe, but the fact is that there are not many Albanian women because you do not know our cannon laws. We are a small population and people know each other very well and if one knew what happened the gangsters family will ender a blood feud/vendetta. Please continue with your amusing provocative Ridiculous comments. You are feeling helpless. P.S. Serbs are very well aware of their exodus/extermination blueprint which is one of the strongest evidence of your attempt to kill Kosovar Albanians. Remember that... that will be one of the reasons Kosova will be independent.

Stefan		17-Apr-2007 23:19
The Albanian, please stop writing nonsenses. Albanians called them selves Illirians, there is no proof that Albanian people today represent the succeeders of Ilirians. As for sex trafficing, albanian women are sold all over Europe, end they are been sold BY ALBANIANS THEMSELVES.. Albanians are the most powerful drug dealers in Europe. Albania is the far most undeveloped country in Europe, beating Moldova. Albanian did never shelter any Jews in they're homes : 1. No Jew lived in albania than 2. Its not called home- its a HUT. Albanians could never been catholic because that region did never belong to a catholic state, before the invasion of the Ottomans. Its not the 21'st century, where someone could openly choose a religion. For sure albanians are not Aryan, nor they have ever been (as much as you would like it to be that way).. Your albanian physiognomy is recognizable for its ugliness. (its not a proof, just my comment) Albanian LANGUAGE got its written form in the 20'th century... ---- Poor albanian migrant, I know that its hard to be albanian, its easy to make thing up, especially history, like you did, but it will all come to its place, there is a "historical distance" and it clears all things someone made up, like today's trend in albania. As for Kosovo, please find out how many albanians lived there in the beginning of the 19'th and the 20'th century.. all you albanians did is give birth to 10 - 15 children, and that how you occupied our territory. But we will reclaim it not by wars or mating like animals, but by hard work and intelligence.

Guest		17-Apr-2007 21:48
You are not albanian, ie. stinking shiptar: we all know that no shiptar is that good at English! You just found some Brit. or Am. scum to speak your sick little mind! That's really easy to see through. Pitiful.

Guest		17-Apr-2007 03:32
Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero... Please show me the encyclopedia you are reading. If you are reading Wikipedia, that is not a scholarly source. Peja is a very well known Albanian city. It is very closely located to Shkodra an ancient Albanian city and a very well known because of the Illyrian Queen TEUTA who actually lived there and had her fleet there. You could not possibly be in "ancient Europe" because the Slavic people actually lived in the northern part of Europe, by russia... Take a look at the maps of migration indo-european people through europe... The Aryans (which albanians are a part of and it can be proven by Hitlers orders not to kill an Albanian because they are the same as us, and it is true that no Albanian was killed by a german but only by Italians, and Albanians were not with Hitler because the fact that most Albanians sheltered Jews in their homes). You say the battle of Kosovo as if it was an entire Serbian thing... The reality is that the Kingdom of Serbia had many allies including Albanians and the person who killed Sultan Murat was Obilic. But remember this was not just serbian effort because serbia never had the power to do it by themselves. Gjergj Kastrioti (not George Castriotus) Skenderbeu, actually faught with only Albanians and he hald exlusive help from Rome because he was a devouted Christian, and maybe you know, his picture/portrait is in Rome. The first monument of the Illyrians which are Albanians because we know that since there was no evident migration in Shkodra, and you can find a type of house called "CARDAK" which is a unique illyrian type of a house all the way to Prishtine. The first monument or archeological called ULPIANA. The fact that the same type of archeological foundings of the same style were found in southern Albania as well. There are other additional monuments which portray an Albanian traditional wearings. There are also Ruins of churches up north in Mitrovica with Roman Catholic characteristics which surely is not Slavic. We have been converted into Islam when the ottomans took over. There are also a lot of muslim Serbs in the region between Kosova and Montenegro, and serbs know it very well that they are a seoaratist type of people. Albanians once were fully Catholic but converted into Islam to get away from the high taxes put up by the ottomans. Your claim that celts lived in Albania is actually not true, because there is actually no evidence of Celts living there. The illyrians migrated in today Albania and Kosova during 2000 BC as NoMads. Dardania which is today Kosovo was mentioned in Alexander the Great conquests... But where were the Slavs at that point?? they were actually Up north in Russia. This is why you guys have such a strong connection with "Mother Russia..." As for the killings, look at the statistics, after all the killings that have been done in the Mass graves that were found, there are still some 400 people missing. How about the massacres in Prekaz, Gjakova, Kacanik, Has, Drenice, Krusha e Madhe, Krusha e Vogel where there are thousands and thousands of widows. Think about how many Mosques were ruined. There is the mosque of HADUM in Gjakove which is aproximatly 600 years old and it was destroyed by the serbian forces, and all the documents in it which were some precious books in there from ancient times were burned. There were thousands of Old albanian books in the university library of Prishtina that were missing. Who uses a library as an Army base??? only the serbs. During the end of the war serbs becan placing their tanks inside peoples front yards so Nato could bomb them, and then you can claim that Nato is trying to kill the civilians. Think about this, Slobodan Milloshevic fired all Albanians from their work because they declared that they do not support the president. All Albanian schools were closed for months. You wanted to impose the serbian Language forcefully on us. Serbia even wanted to change our last name by adding "ic" on the end just like the greeks did to southern Albanians. But you were unsuccessful. I will speak from my personal experience. Serbian (arkan paramilitary) police came to my house and asked in 5 minutes to leave. Many of my neighbors were killed which were kinda old and disabled because they couldn't leave. Houses were burned. You guys call UCK terrorists but think about Arkans Army, Mladic, etc... The so called "accused" Albanian "terrorists" turned themselves in, and you guys are still "hunting" for the people wanted. All the serbian witnesses are appearing as hidden people because they have no courage to get in front of the person who supposedly killed their family. All the Albanian witnesses came up and showed their faces to Sllobodan Milloshevic. And to Add Arkan got assassinated by Serbs because you knew that if he goes to Hague, a bad name will be imposed on Serbia. All the leaders of the Serbian army during Bosnia and Kosova war are called to the Hague but none of them have turned themselves in. People who are innocent turn themselves in voluntarely because they know they are innocent. Many of the witnessess tell stories like that one below of sweden/kosovo. As for all the bad things, it is called Mafia, and I am 100% sure you guys do it as well as we do. Serbian women are all over the sex slave, you guys buy arms and sell drugs from your neighboring country of Romania and Hungary. As for the Tallness, you can read it on MSNBC.com. Actually Albanians are very tall, in my family men are usually taller than 6'1, and women around 5'7-6. Now for the capital is a very valid question. Most european countries have their capital on the most ancient city. Rome, Madrid, London, Berlin, Zurich, Vienna.... But you are claiming Kosovo your mother, so why not have a capital there but al the way up north. This shows you migration from the north and not "all over the place." You cannot take America as an example because that is a new country. And when were your monuments built??? Remember we were once Catholics... That is why there are still Albanian Catholics (10%) Orthodox (5%) Atheist (5%) and Muslims (80% including the Bektashi, and Dervish)...

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		15-Apr-2007 23:34
2nd part Your claimings about Illyrs are as funny as your people's pretensions.Hey in history tribes and men changed borders and lands as we nowadays change our underwear.So,for you it's normal for Mongols to have the whole Russia and Ukraine,part of the China and Arabs to have all of the Asia,south Africa and middle France.Irish and Scotsmen to have all north France and Belgium,with Holland and north Italy??I think it's not normal thing to even think about... If you are so educated,tell me please,what is the first Albanian monument and when does it date.We have thousands and thousands churches and monasteries in Kosovo,and you?You're building all types of objects next to our sacred places(some our under protection of UNESCO and other that aren't you're demolishing and buildingt mosques on it)Our historical monuments in south Serbian part-Kosovo date from early Midlle ages and yours?Do you possess any by the way? Your statements about Illirs I could easily aply for Slavs.It's a pure lie that Slavs came there at that time,hey we've been everywhere before you!We held 90% of Ancient-time Europe!So does it mean we have a right to usurp the whole European land???Some historians are nowadays trying to prove the existance of one and only tribe from whom outcame all other and that would be Slavic tribe.Western Europe binds that theory because they take it as the insult because this would lead us to the conclusion that all of us are equal on the planet of Earth and this simply is bad-effective to monopoly they mislead and their foreign-relations and foreign-trade politics.As for the capital how can you evcen ask such a stupid and non-sensed question?Look on the geografic maps where Austria,Slovakia,Greece,Portugal,Netherland,England,Romania,France and so on placed their capitals?And that's just an example for Europe...I could've easily enumerate it till the day after tomorow.I'm now looking fwd to your answer...

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		15-Apr-2007 23:33
To Albanian-I will not answer you by order,you get by...I'm not sure about your or Stefan's statistics about which people are the tallest ones.Surely that can not be measured correctly,but the Serbs are pretty tall among the tallest in the world.I wouldn't agree that Albanians are tall too,I think they mostly aren't.As for your ''historical correctly pretensions''on Kosovo I have just finished with reading several Encyclopedias and historical facts on the Internet and I’ve been almost every time coming to this information(I’m translating now):The territory of nowadays’s Albania about 604.BC was occupied by Celts,and later Illyrs,offsprings of Albanians which succumbed to Macedonian expansion.By partition of Roman Impery,Byzantia takes it as it’s part.In 15th century king Dusan conquests it(Albania)and shares it with Turkish and Albanian noblemen.After his death Albanian power increases.In 14th century Venice takes control of it.After Turks defeated Balsa II Balsic(Serbian feudal lord)in battle of river Marica and conquests the hole Albanian territory.Albanian noblemen become their servants.and peasants also.In that time as the Otoman empire spreads its borders many of slaved Albanians(Turkish servants)settle Kosovo(part of the Otoman Empire at those times,after Serbian losing the batlle of Kosovo in 1389.)Under the leading of George Castriotus Skenderbeg from 1443.who uprised against Turks(with a big help of Serbian people too)people of Albania had a success but after his death beganmany fights between Albanians and Turkey repossesses it again.It's obvious from this text that you had a problem to settle in your own state and obviously Serbs were populating those regions. About Memorandum I'll try to get to it.But,I know some facts about war in 1999.I have close relatives who lived in Pec(and you know well what Serbs still and only have in it)and they run away from it because UCK said to them clearly:,,you have 24 hours to abandon your house or we butcher you''.This story is valid for hundreds of thousands other Serbs and non-Albanian citizens.The 3 of 4 main politicians in Kosovo are suspected of war crimes from the Serbian side and the 4th one is former convict.There is inumerable cases in which UCK killed Albanians only cause they said they want Serbs to stay.You ran away not because we forced you to(another million cases where we helped Albanian civilians and rescued them from UCK)but because you were ordered to by KLA and you were frightened of us because the whole world with all the birds on the trees knows how brave and patriotic Serbian soldier is.Our Government forwarded proves of some important Albanian citizens being involved in most horrible crimes against humanity and they simply arrested them and after month/.two released them.One more thing:Slobodan Milosevis was killed in prison of Sheveningen cause he was about to prove that Serbian army haven't convinced crimes on Albanians BUT OPPOSITE.On trial had been coming a nujmerous false-witnesses who ''testified''after having a deal with Carla Del Ponte and other''Justice-fighters''.Look at your society-doing nothing but selling narcotics and whores and trading fire-arms with America,driving stolen cars from developed countries and having loby all over the world.Your faith tells us more about you:you say at the beginning yopu were orthodox and catholic and now you're over 76%Muslims.Strong Christian faith,I'd say!You did more crimes to Serbs than we could do to you in a 5000 years.(1980.three Albanian guys saw a Serbian old man(Djordje Martinovic)and after a hard beating they put a broken bottle into his ass)Maybe you find this funny,because of the last part and then it was hushed up by a communist regime in Yugoslavia.)Yeah your violence started many decades ago

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The Albanian		13-Apr-2007 19:57
Interesting how I have never seen this web site. My name is Burim and I am from Kosova, born and raised in Prishtina, with roots from the city of Gjakova (Djakovica)... I have visited Belgrade and Nish many times and they are great cities... But As I am reading some of these comments I saw it to be necessary to comment... I would first like to start with Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero: Have you ever heard of this document "The Memorandum" written by the smartest heads of Serbian who are a part of the Institution of Science and Art of Serbia... Let me summarize it a little bit for you. What that document says and it is available for the world, is a blueprint of the EXTERMINATION / EXODUS of the Albanian people. Now let me tell you that this plan was carried out, and thousands almost a million albanians were displaced from Kosovo because you wanted to clean it out (this is all stated in this document which I am not making it up) and manipulate with the history of the place and call it the Serbian Land by arguing that no Albanians ever lived there. There are historical facts where waves of Albanian migration happened, and a quick fact is that many of them live in Turkey and Romania. In Turkey there are villages with tousands of Albanian and how do we know they are albanians.. They speak it, and have the same old traditions. Another historical fact... There are plenty historical facts that the area called Dardania which was part of Illyria situated in present day Kosova stretched down to Shkup (skopje) east halfway the distance between present day kosova and romania, and north all the way up to Nis and west almost hald of present day Montenegro. So how come a lot of those places are not so Albanian populated. In this MEMORANDUM it is explained why because the clensing started but it was stopped in present day kosova. If you live in Belgrade I would suggest to pick it up and see who were the agressors. But back to the history, Dardania was Illyrian populated, and there are numerous historical sources where this was mentioned. but not think about it, Illyria was almost between 2000-1000 BCE, and slavic people came in kosova in 13th-14th century CE. So who lived there? There is no one else but Albanians. Now you speak of the religion. There was no other religion in Europe besides christianity, and also Christianity was the official religion of the byzantine empire. Therefor we would have been catholics, and or orthodox. There were numeral churches (albanian) in Kosovo, but they have been destroyed by serbs and Ottomans... Now you say Kosova is the heart of serbia... If kosova was the heart of serbia, how come the capital of serbia wasn't In kosova???? Thats it for you, I will be looking forward to your answers.... To stefan Serb: The story below you is a total lie. The fact that she says it happened in Prishtine makes it a very very big lie. Prishtina was one of the last cities to be abandod by the serbian army. The Albanian KLA never entered Prishtina until the Nato forces came. They actually came in together. Just for your records, Almost half of my family was killed during the war primarly adult and young men. As for the rapes, there have been numeral, luckly not many in my family but there have been some of young teenage girls, or mothers. There have been instances where they made the son have sex with his mom in front of his father. I know this happened because it was told, plus I worked with american psychiatrists as a translator and I have heard all these types of stories, and how do i know they were true.. the fact that they were having mental breakdowns, a mother almost wanted to comitt suicide, etc... Another fact, Serbs are not the tallest people in the world (average), the Dutch are. Also Albanians are not that short either.

Guest		12-Apr-2007 19:33
Sweden/Kosovo, That is a very sad story and I am sure there are many like it, however on a forum like this people can lie and I'm not saying you are, but I'm sorry I can't believe it happened to you. Raping a 12 year old girl doesn't seem like something even an Albanian would do, because most girls at 12 have not even started puberty. Those Albanian 'soldiers' could have raped any Serbian woman they wanted so why would they rape a little girl? Come on that seems a bit far fetched. I am only saying this because I fucking hate it when I hear stories from Albanian teenagers, obviously falsely made-up by their parents and pushed on them of how Serbian soldiers from a professional fucking army (the JNA) went and raped some 10 year old kid. That is always all bullshit and it never happened. But when they have 10,000 Albanian youths saying it happened to them the World will broadcast it and fabricate these lies to show how Serbs are monsters. 20 years ago the World was best friends with Serbs, when it suited them to keep us from relations with the USSR, then as soon as the Soviets weren't a problem, Yugoslavia was, and the people at the heart of it who supported it most, Serbs, had to be destroyed. And the Western media machine has destroyed us 50 times over, we won't be able to be what we were in 1980 for another 100 years. But one thing they can't change is how we look. And I don't care what anyone says Serbs and Bosnians (even the Muslims ones) are the most beautiful people in the World! We have the most beautiful women and men! We have the tallest average height in the World, we have an extremely high calorie intake but one of the lowest obesity rates in the World. This shows that if these calories aren't going to fat, they are going to bulk. Everyone who I've met, all my proffessors and other adults who have been to any football matches involving Serbia always tell me how ENORMOUS the Serbian supporters are. And I just reply "yeah all Serbs are that big" haha. Anyway, I have strayed from my original point, which was that I can't believe somebody who doesn't give their name and says they prefer impoverished Kosovo to the country with the best living standard in the World: Sweden. This story could have been made up because it seems a little extreme. Although if you are telling the truth you know so inside your heart and I hope you can mentally recover from your loss and abuse and grow to be a great, strong and intelligent woman. Regards Srbijanka, Stefan Sieg Heil!

Sweden/Kosovo		11-Apr-2007 04:30
I was raped by 2 Albanian soldiers when I was 12 years old. I had to say that but I won't tell you the details because it is to painful to talk about it. Albanians burnt our house down when my father and my little brother were asleep. They made me and my mother leave Kosovo...We didn't have anything...Nothing was left from our house and we were alone - almost all of our friends and family were dead. When we came to Belgrade, together with 10,000 other Serbs - we had to live in a 2 room apartment with 10 other people. I haven't been to Kosovo since. Now there are only Albanians there and it is not safe for a Serbian girl like me to show up there. My mother is a translator who speaks 5 languages and she got a job in Sweden. Now we live here and I don't like it. It is cold and dark..I just want to come back home to Pristina. Not Pristina now but Pristina back in the old days. Albanian terrorists freed Pristina. They destroyed my life..I'm 15 now and it never got better. I hardly go out because I'm afraid. I don't want to go through the same thing again. There hasn't been one day that's gone by that I don't think of it. Of my little brother and my father and all the things those pigs did to us. Don't get me wrong..I don't hate all of them. I have some Albanian friends here. They are nice. Only thing I regret is that I left Kosovo because that is MY country. KOSOVO is SERBIAN and KOSOVO needed us to stay but we left. We had no choice - all those bombings and burnt houses and dead people...It was not worth it!!!!!! Why couldn't they leave us alone and just go back to their own litle country if they didn't like it in Kosovo? Why are they attacking Makedonia? They want a bigger country and those Jews in the American government support them because they want to prove that they don't have anything against the Muslims! Why do they show a dead Albanian girl on TV and say that Serbs are terrorists? Kosovo has always been Serbian and we can't be terrorists in our own country? Why didn't I go and tell them my story? And there are a million stories like this - even worse but noone cares about us!!! I know the truth and iIdon't like the truth. That's why i don't go telling everybody that 2 Albanian animals raped me and than beat me up when I was 12. Or that they set my 2 year old brother on fire, killed my father, burnt our house, made me leave my home. I don't go telling this and humiliating myself on the news or newspapers. I never will because even if it looks like I am a victim, I'm not. I'm the bigger person and I have dignity and my pride. I will survive. For the rest of you - don't trust in what you read or see on TV! It isn't true. I have been there and I know. --Sweden/Kosovo

Guest		10-Apr-2007 18:13
Yeah Happy Easter to you guys too :-)

Vlad		10-Apr-2007 14:55
HAPPY EASTER TO EVRYBODY!

ILIR LIKA		09-Apr-2007 02:40
I wish everyone a very happy Easter this weekend Hope everyone had a great Easter Holiday!

Guest		08-Apr-2007 00:34
To all, I am glad you have accepted my age well, and I hope you all understand that if I had disclosed my age before I ran the risk of my views being dismissed as immature. I thank you for your accepting of this. To Vlad, I am not ashamed of my age, in fact I am very proud that I am so well formed both mentally and physically for my age, but at the age of 15 (when I first posted in this forum) I didn't want people to just reply "you are a child you know nothing" that is why I did not say my real age. Ilir, Yes I have heard of these two clubs you mentionned, but they are very expensive, so I have never been to either of them, however I will make sure to go one day. You live in Hampstead? That is a very nice area, affluent place in North London I had a second cousin who lived there who was a Metropolitan Policeman but they emigrated to France. They lived 2 minute walk away from Primrose Hill next to London Zoo. Their house sold for £1.3 million. Wow! I agree with you for blacks and these other inferior races they are really a plague of Europe and especially England and especially LONDON! In my school/college white people are an ethnic minority! It is ridiculous! If you add together all the inferior races they make up 60% of the school demographics! I live in the borough of Ealing, which was once considered Queen of the Suburbs and surely in the centre of the borough (Ealing Broadway) it remains a beautiful place with many beautiful parks filled with flowers and big oak trees, it is full of shops and cafes and restaurants... basically it contains everything. The houses in that area are enormous, with giant gardens and great architecture, they sell for anything up to 3 million £s. Surely London would be a much better place with all areas being peaceful without BLACKS and PAKIS and ARABS. However, I don't mind Chinese people, they are smart, mainly civilized and do not cause big problems like the other races. They don't cause trouble, hang around in gangs are perform criminal activites. Mainly they keep to themselves, and they are peaceful. So for me they are not such a problem, also they tend not to bunch in big groups like Pakis in Southall and niggers in Brixton, rather they are usually dispersed and mingle amongst everyone, except when they live near Chinatown because that's where all their businesses are. Surely they are inferior to white Europeans, but not to the same extent as the other races, in my opinion anyway. You're hate for Serbs troubles me, but to be honest I don't like what Albanians are doing in Kosovo so it is a mutual feeling, I just don't hate you as much as you hate me, I would be willing to talk to you I just wouldn't have you as my best friend. Regards to everybody, especially Vlad, thanks for your kind words kameraten. Stefan

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		07-Apr-2007 01:24
To Vlad,Seneka,Ilir Yes,I'm from Belgrade.I was born here,but I'd like to spend the rest of my life in my village which is located about 80 km south from our capital. I thought so.Unfortunately,our situation with Montenegrins is much more complicated.Since the old times people who lived in Montenegro called themselves Montenegrins,but they considered themselves Serbs.From the middle 1990's politicians in Montenegro took the history in their hands and did inconceivable thing-apart one people(Serbs)on 2 different.But there's 30% of those who declare themselves as Serbs in MN nowadays.And by the years this number will decrease due to the political pressure of Albanian party and non-Serbian DPS of MN(democratic party of socialists).Well,I'm glad that Romania and Moldova don't have such problems.I'm also extremely happy to see you having a positive opinion about general Mladic.As I wrote earlier I think he's a great man,and I wish him all the best wherever he might be. Seneka,people don't consider Chinese people for a problem-that is the big mistake.Every European country is a paradise for them-they can have as many children as they like;live up to 20 in one flat etc.Assholes from developed European countries must adopt laws that will forbid such things. Ilir,what are you talking about,idiot?You are also unwanted in England as any black man or Paki,Arab or gay.What makes you think you're better than them?You're garbage there,but the difference btw.you and them is that they mostly have human jobs,what can not be said about one Albanian.No matter if you're white or yellow or whatever Albanians are hated all over the world cause they always have someone else to do their dirty business.''My hate for you is everblazing and it never fades away''(based on a song by Sean Paul).But,perhaps the only thing I have ever agreed with you on so far is that Europe has to be united to solve such problems. Best regards to my orthodox brothers from Romania and England. ORTHODOX SERBIA IS ETERNAL KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA CP6UJA qO TOKUJA

ILIR LIKA		06-Apr-2007 07:07
TO STEFAN fuck all the stinking pakis, arabs, niggas back to shit holes that they all came from. Bunch of fucking lowlife freeloading cock sucking paedophilic cunts. every monkey(black man) or paki i av stood next to always stinks of dirty horrible sweat fucking one day we should gas them all. I want to drive a bomb up luton high st and kill pakis and black men women and children. let them fuck pigs see what it feels like. and before any one says thats out of order. just remember pakis and black kids grow into pakis and black cunts. black people (momkeys) they say they hate the western world and shit, but they display that with a fucking RAP song!! what the fuck! is it just me or what?? thats like the most western thing ever. mainstream music adores rap so what the fuck? also i hate shit like that. its so fucked up they need to sort it out man. Stefan i am albanian and i live in london thnks to god i am white i agree with you everything what you did say. I live at Hampstead i hate serbs but when i see black people or pakis hate against serbs goes away from me. we albanian we did fought all the time in war against serbs but soon or later we have to be united europe to fuck those shity race coming to europe blacks,arabs,pakis,chinese etc white race is a superior race my favourite club in london is penthouse in leicester square and embassy of regent street in burlington street death to serbs long live united albania

Seneka		05-Apr-2007 17:56
Signed Seneka :) It apears that i forgot to say hwo i am in the last comment. Best wishes

Guest		05-Apr-2007 17:53
Stefan, I totally agree with everything you said bout the minorities exept the part when you mentioned that they should be whipped out. I believe that they should simply be deported back to Africa or Asia etc. Europe should remain the single White-Christian continent. This is what gave it its past glory. I also see that here in Bucharest thousand of arabs and chinese that appeared out of nowhere in the last 10 years. This must situation must definetly be repaired. I heard that the chinese want to construct a Chinatown here in Bucharest, and it would be the biggest in Europe. Unfortunately the authorities aren't doing anything about this situation because they are all corrupt people without values, but still Romanians are electing them from fear of totalitarism. This is a situation that i believe is without an end. Anyway, I'm glad that you have such high values and behavior. Serbia, and Romania for that matter, needs more people like you. Best wishes to you and your family. PS: Since i'm going these days back to my hometown, and i don't know if ill be able to post on this forum for a week because i don't have a permanent Internet connection back there, i wish you all of you a HAPPY EASTER alongside to your loved ones. Best regards.

Vlad		05-Apr-2007 15:41
to Stefan: don't be afraid for your age!! You are what you are and you must be proud for it! Peoples will like you more if you are so mature also at 17 yo, don't worry. You must believe in yourself for your pride and your great valours. You must think for yourself and for your mentality and DON'T CARE ABOUT THE IMPRESSION OF THE OTHERS!!!!! I can guarantee you that you more more more more mature than many 28yo peoples. You have found n yourself the brave to fight until now and to show your ideals. You must be afraid only for two persons in your life: GOD and YOURSELF! These are the only peoples who can destroy you, but if you believe 100% in yourself in your ideas this meaning you are a strong spirit mature for the best fight:THE LIFE. Nobody has the power to give you importance! You also have the power to give and to don't give importance to others. The others are men like you. Be arrogant against the false teacher! Be strong against the demagogic system! Be brother with your peoples, your family, and your friends and BELIEVE IN YOURSELF! This is my suggestion my dear friend. believe in what I told you. Regards

Vlad ROMANIAN		05-Apr-2007 15:32
Stefan, you are a great person. I thank you that you introduce yourself. For me is not important the age, is important the BRAIN. Your mentality show you are a very mature and serious boy and is very good that at the age of 17 you are so mature. I am 23 but also at the age of 17 I had the same ideas of today. Also at 17 yo like you I loved to speak about politic, about history etc... You surprise me for you rmaturity! I believe if in this world all youngs it would be like me, you and Ratko Mladic Serbian Hero. I am also still student also if I begin to work. As you know my father is italian and my mother from Wallachia (Southern Romania). But I consider myself 100%Romanian. I don't like many attitudes of italians also if they are the people of my father and also if I go often there to my relatives which whom I have great relations, expecially with my cousins who come also here on winter for sky. We love to go on Sinaia a great touristic town with a Castel (former Royal Palace) and a beautiful monastery. There is full of fun and come people from all Europe and Romania. I partecipe often in many initiative of my Party. I am proud to be romanian, european and christian. All my friends here are comrades of my party but I have also friends who are not. We ar every united and we love to travel and to enjoy together. Now I am on a side very happy for my job and my wage but for other side I am sad because I have less time for myself, but in week-end we enjoy very much. This Saturday maybe I will go in Semenic a wonderfull zone here in Romanian Banat, for enjoy togethr some friends. A my friend was also in Kopaonik (Serbia) and told me that is very beautifull. For Ratko Mladic Serbian Hero: also if you are not a neo-nazi like me you have my similar ideas. I like your patriottism who is the same of mine and your love for your country. I like also your nick-name who is the name of one of my best heroes RATKO MLADIC, I guess him to be for ever free and to win his battle. Are you from Belgrade? Our relations with Republica Moldova are the typical brother relationship. They are our same people, they are not a friend people BUT THE SAME PEOPLE. They are romanians like us. They love very much Romania because they know that also their country is 100%Romania. Also under soviet regime they mantain romanian culture and language and refused to accept soviet influences. They had in 1990 a war against Russia for freedom and there are still now romanians prisoners of that war. Their flas is the same of ours, their language is still romanian, they consider themselves 100%romanians. Me and my Party very oftne organize manifestation for support them against russian regime who control them thought the false leadership of Vladimir Voronin. Many of them come here for study at Unicersity and for job because in Moldova is a great poorty. Unfortunately. Our medium wage is 270euro while in Moldova is 120. Regards my two great friends. Vlad

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		04-Apr-2007 18:44
It was brave from you to open your soul here,on this site.I think you had every reason to introduce yourself to us older than you are.If you had written you're 15 then no one would have taken you for serious.You know, I realize shit happens in one's life,no matter if he hadn't wanted it to happen.I'm 19 and life wasn't quite a good friend to me,neither.The art of living is to keep it going and never let it makes you vulnerable.My point in the last post was that if you really love your country you are redy to do anything,I repeat ANYTHING for it.It's not a sin living abroad just don't get caught in that machinery of Western life-work and nothing but the work. I agree that politicians everywhere and especially here in Serbia are greedy and corrupted and they only make it better for themselves,I agree that discord is ''around every corner''and that we are biggest enemies to ourselves,but this is the part of your people,you can not do anything about it.In Serbia good and fair people are politicaly ''exterminated''because they wanted to change things and fight with the criminal and mafia.But if you know the smallest part of our history you will notice how good and wonderful,honest etc.people we were and i'm not exaggerating at all(Battle of Kosovo and WWI especially)...So maybe things will change soon or not,who knows?You just keep it up and some day who knows,you'll be the famous doctor in Serbia,it isn't impossible.... I'm not a Neo-Nazi,however I don't like when black,Asian,African,gypsy people multiplicate on foreign territory and later shit on it,and complaine they don't have rights like natives.Who are them to uprise(last year in France,black,Muslim people had riots in France,if you remember Stefan).I mean-go to your desert and rocky grounds where you were born and there you can do whatever you like.But,in the other hand you see that the Britain held nearly half of the world under their iurisdiction and slaved those nations all to one.That and the UN are the reasons that you live in only 5%white quart.Fuck those blind ideas!Man should be appreciated,not by the colour of the skin,religion but by how good is he.That's the whole philosophy.Take care,brother... Vlad,what's Romanian relations with Moldova now?Is it like ours with Montenegro?Can you explain it a little bit? ORTHODOX SERBIA IS ETERNAL KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA CP6UJA qO TOKUJA

Guest		04-Apr-2007 16:47
.... In 1994 my sister was born, and had extreme health problems, she underwent an operation and was the first person in Europe to ever survive it. Thanks to God she is healthy and beautiful now and the most important person to me in the World. When I was 9 or something my parents divorced, and as is the law in the UK, my Mother got custody of my sister and myself. She was a bitch, she was always a bitch and I don't consider her as my Mother, she remarried a short time afterwards, and emigrated to New Zealand, taking my sister with her, but I chose to stay with my Father in England to complete my education and to live with my Father, never again with my Mother or that bastard who is my Step-Father. I had many fights with my Step-Father, rarely physical, but once I knocked that son of a bitch out with a metal pan from my kitchen. My Mother poisoned my Sister into believing my Father wanted to destroy their "new family" and that he didnt care about her nor want to see her, subsequently gradually cutting ties between my dad and sister, who were inseperable before. My Mother's family disowned her over this and she is never again welcome in Europe according to my family. My Mother was a poor woman as well, grew up in rented accomodation, in gritty Manchester, her Mother committed suicide after her Father was killed in the Fawkland War and she was raised in France by her Aunty (whom I loved very much). My Mother spent whatever my Father earned from working day and night in England like a donkey. She made it so that no funds could ever be saved for university or for the purchase of any accomodation. Now here I am living in England in a rented apartment in an area which the demographics are as follows: White 5% Indian/Bangladeshi/Pakistani: 80% Somali: 10% Other blacks: 5% I cannot afford to live anywhere else, that is the reality of life for me. But these are all insignificant details. I am healthy, tall, muscular and clever boy. I am 186cm tall and 75 kilograms, I play lots of sport and I am well built. I play for my borough basketball squad and I am a black belt in Higashi Karate. I can do 57 press ups in a minute and 200 sit ups without a pause. I am top of all my classes in school for mathmatics, science, french and history, I have one more year of school and then I will go and attend Paris University for medicine. I aim to become a Doctor by the end of my studies and remain in Paris until I have paid off my fees, then I will consider emigrating to Belgrade if the economic situation is superior. I am not willing to throw away 15 years of education for a shitty wage. Everything else I have told you is true, at the weekend I go to clubs and bars with friends, especially in central London and Hammersmith, and street crime is no longer a problem for me because of my size and skill in fighting, I cannot be beaten by unarmed youths who's numbers are less than 3 or 4. However if a knife is presented by at least 4 or more niggers I cannot fight because I value my life too dearly. I am a Neo-Nazi and I am an unofficial member of the BNP, who's aim is to keep Europe for Europeans! This is what I believe is right, whites Christian Europeans cannot be put in the same category, not even on the same level as nigger scum and Pakis and other inferiors. These are still uncivilized and undeveloped people with ape lipe appearances and behaviour. The more rights they are permitted the more crimes they commit and the more they abuse this once great and honorable country. They must be deported, if they refuse, they must be executed and wiped away. Soceties' single problem here is inferior races, there are no other social problems so wide, but even now in my school/college they force the ideas onto people of equality and how it is racist to be a nationalist and this and that etc etc. It is all propaganda and bullshit used to brainwash young Britons into accepting this type of savage behaviour from niggers and Pakis. The inferior races bring no positive points to Britain, only negative points, they have destroyed every thread of society and now they have too much power to be put down diplomatically. They must be removed before they take control of everything in this nation. Anway, I am done for now, and I must go and eat some meat and do some studying because tonight I have a house party to go to in Kensington. So goodbye for now. Kind regards my kameraten Stefan

Guest		04-Apr-2007 15:42
To Vlad and Ratko Mladic dude, I regret to inform you that until now I have not been telling the whole truth about myself and my background, the reason for this I will reveal later. I am not a man of 26/28 years of age, rather I am an adolesent of 17 years of age. I am sorry to have lied to you, especially you Vlad dear kameraten and fellow right radical, but it was necessary under the circumstances in order to have my views taken seriously as those of an adult, I hope you can understand. When I started posting in this forum I was 15, almost 16, and the only way I could express my political views and also my views of general life is to have an alias as an adult. I am pleased that people have taken me seriously here, not as a kid, because a kid I am not. I have passed through a lot in my life which you people haven't and never will, I can assure you all I am a mature and sensible boy with an adult mind, so I hope sincerely that my age is not a problem in the future. My Mother is half English and half French, my Father is a SERB. I also have another sibling, my Sister Natalija who is 12 years old and I love her the most in this World. My Father left Yugoslavia with a man who was building a house in France in 1987. He went with him and some comrades from Belgrade University student services to aid him with the construction of this guy's house. So they went to Paris, built the guy's house, in exchange for money, money which would be paid after the construction was complete. So they built this guy's house, while living in temporary boarding accomodation in Paris suburbs. After the house was complete, the guy disappeared from the face of the Earth. He had sold the house to a Swedish couple and he disappeared, without paying my Father and his Yugoslav comrades who made it. My Father came from a poor family from a village in central Serbia, and was studying defence in Belgrade University, he was a captain in the JNA. He needed to get a temporary job in order to pay for a return journey to Yugoslavia, so he started working at a factory on the outskirts of Paris, where he met my Mother, and after 3 months he had the money he needed to leave for Beograd, however he was in a relationship with my Mother and she didn't want him to leave, nor did she want to emigrate to Yugoslavia where she didn't speak a word of the language etc.. So after 6 months they were married, and in 1989 I was born in a town 10km South of Paris. At the age of 5 we moved to the UK, where my Father was transferred to a VCR Production place in West London. I started school in England and learnt English to go with my French.... to be continued....

Vlad		04-Apr-2007 15:23
To Ratko: Yes you have totally right! Democracy is am hypocrite word to change in diplomatic way the its real name: Corruption. For example: I told to Seneka that my dream is to kill all gypsy minority who ara in our Fatherland. My dream is to clean my loved Fatherland by gypsy minority who steal, kill, violed our sons and aggress our civil society. I conbsider that if a little glass of NERVIN-SAARIN gas kill 1000 persons we can use 2000 of that for kill that 2millions of gypsy who live in our Fatherland. I am not racist, but we can not consider gypsy like a normal people, they are a problem, they are a defect of nature, who born only to do problems. My dream is not a genocide, is an obligation. Is a moral act of Justice. To clean my loved country by gypsy minority and to free my loved romanian peoples. Is not a genocide but a noble act of justice. And our DEMOCRATIC government consider me and mine comrades and my party NOUA-DREAPTA a group of crazy sadic criminals! We are not! To kill a gypsy is not a crime! Because is our obligation to massacre them! If you say it, our DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT and our DEMOCRATIC EUROPEAN UNION say that we are racist. For example that pig of Bruce Jackson former secretary of NATO told that Romania is full of nationalist peoples who make problems for realize a democratic system. This is an hypocrite and a stupidmentality who show like West countries and USA, want to export their pathetic system here in Europe. ANTONESCU TRAIESTE

Vlad		04-Apr-2007 15:11
Seneka, imi pare rau ca ai cazut si tu in prostime democratica car conduce biata tara noastra. Eu nu sunt intolerant deloc, daca citesti comentarile mele am si zis ca nu am ura nici macar pentru unguri (numai cei care nu respecta suveranitatea noastra), stimez extrem de mult sasi pe care sper se vor multi ca de la 89 incoace au cam remasi putini din pacate. Cu fie care popor e bine sa consideram persoane bune si rele, dar cazul tiganilor este o exceptie. De exemplu daca cu unguri poti rezona, daca cu slavii pot rezona, cu germani pot rezona, cu fie care popor poti rezona, cu tigani esti nevoit sa fi rau. Ei sunt UNICUL popor in care nu poti spune ca numai o mic aparte e facuta de ticalosi, fiinca imi pare rau da 90% din ei sunt hoti, spurcati, si bestii. Nu poti considera o relatie cu tigani la fel cum o poti face cu unguri, pentru ca ei sunt un popor aparte. Sunt nomazi, nu au cultura civica si refuza sa i o invatam. AI urmarit Tvr1 cand arata in Moldova chiar langa Botosani, un grup de CIORI sa vaita ca nu avea bani. Primaria i a oferit de lucru si ei au refuzat! Tie iti pare bine sa vezi guvernul dand bani pentru Palate Ciorilor si familielor intregi de romani care nu ajung la sfarsitul lunii? Iti pare bine sa vezi ciorilor in strainatate furand si spunand altora ca is romani? Iti pare bine ca pentru fie care prostia se duc la Curtea pt Drepturile Omului si fura Miliarde de la Stat pentru a si face Vile aia patetice cu pagode? Eu nu zic ca as fi un paradis fara ei. Si noi romani avem desigur ca fie care popor partea noastra negativa facuta de ticalosi, da fi CERT ca fara CIORI, tara noastra macar a fi mai ordonata, mai civila, mai linistita si cu o reputatie mai buna. Dac asta inseama a fi sadic. Da sunt sadic si ma mandresc de asta, daca asta inseama a fi un patriot.

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		03-Apr-2007 23:28
To STEFAN and VLAD We all know that democracy is just another word for ruining and stealing from one or more countries and people of those countries.I think democracy lost its original meaning in 5th century BC.The democracy of USA and Western Europe is mostly based on lies and spreading interests and influence on other,less developed countries all by telling the world their only task is to build a new period,periodof ''democracy''and better life that was not represented because of dictatorship of its leaders.And when they get into those states and pull off(read:kill)the presidents and so on they're starting an economic exploatation which lasts for many years etc. STEFANE,I'm very dissapointed with your opinion about Serbia and its people.I am a Serb and I've never been ashamed by that.I'd use smth.like Vlad's model-I'm MAN,SERB,(ORTHODOX)CHRISTIAN.My mother and father have low wages but beside that we are all proud of who we are and where we are.By saying Serbs are responsible for this situation in the country you're insulting me in fact.Who voted the Constitution?Maybe I would have educated myself in London or France if I had had the money.Many of youth are leaving the country for what?To wear Armani,D&G,Nike,Paco Rabbane,or to drive Bentleys,Mercedes Benz and alike.We were never rich but also never so selfish.I voted for Radicals,your party and also have 30% of citizens.I get the picture of you when you say France is your 2nd fatherland or motherland whatever,and you wish to come back to it.That is making it the 1st!You do not love the country for average wage or anything similar.It's easy to write from England and say you're the big Serb.As Njegos said:u dobru je lako dobrom biti,na muci se poznaju junaci!And i must notice your Serbian is way too poor.You should be ashame of your view on Serbia.I thought you were different.I agree that we are not living in harmony and we want to trick each others sometimes,I see that every day and am not pleased with that,but remember this one:samo sloga Srbina spasava.As long as you have that opinion on Serbs you're not making things any better.Don't be angry on me,I needed to say this,i hope you'llget the more positive picture.Vlad,there was no thing i haven't agreed with you on so far.I like your way of thinking,you seem like a good guy. To Albanians Aferdita,.you are the citizen of unfriendly,I can easily say enemy-state,who are trying to steal our territory.All of your people who are/were fighting for it are terrorists because they are stealing it and because they do it by force and by killing innocent civilians,non-Albanian civilians,mostly Serbs.I'm not sorry for your husband,because he was a terrorist too and probably had killed many Serbs before he fell.You and your brothers Ermin and Ilir are scum.You're saying Ermin is right when saying worst about my people,yeah sure,and I'm the first black president of USA.I am not writing anything about Christ so you don't do the same with Allah,ok?.We don't believe in him,we never will.So quit it. I don't care which house of which Serb you’re living in,you are enemy to me as any Albanian is.You’ve burnt my house down there so the last thing I will do in my life is to feel sorry for you or your countrymates.Realize-I hate you more than anything. ORTHODOX SERBIA IS ETERNAL KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA CP6UJA qO TOKUJA

Seneka		03-Apr-2007 17:31
Cred ca viata fara tigani in Romania ar fi la fel daca nu poate chiar ma trista... Nu inteleg de ce unii oameni au dorinta o instinctiva de a se comporta mai rau decat animalele. Toata treaba aia pe care ai descris-o in ultimul reply s-ar cheama genocid, si nu oricum ci unul atat de grav cum nu s-a mai vazut pe lume de la Stalin incoace. Incep sa cred ca postezi aici doar ca un fel de fetis masochist de genul celor care scriu pe site-uri cu fantezii erotice. Sa inteleg ca tu esti un sadic Vlad? Si astea sunt fanteziile tale? Daca da este destul de grav si iti recomand cu cea mai mare caldura sa-ti faci o programare la un medic psihiatru. Lumea in ziua de azi se vrea civilizata, nu mai e loc pentru barbarisme si crime in masa... Numai bine

Guest		03-Apr-2007 16:51
IMI PARE RAU CA GANDESTI ASA: "DACA AS FI EU LA GUVERNARE AS TRAGE 2000 DE STICLE DE GAZ NERVIN-SAARIN ASUPRA TIGANILOR!! AVEM 2 MILIOANE DIN SCARBELOR ASTIA SI O STICLA DE NERVIN OMOARA 1000 DE PERSOANE. I AS GAZA PE TOTI SI AS DUCE CADAVERE LOR LA GUNOI! AU UMPLUT TARA DE FURTURI, DE MANELE, DE PALATE FACUTE CU BANI FURATI, SI ACU NE SI DAUNEAZA PESTE HOTARE, FURAND SI CERSIND SI SPUNAND ALTORA CA IS ROMANI!!" NO COMMENT

Vlad ROMANIAN		03-Apr-2007 15:14
Seneka, admit ca am exagerat cu injuraturi si iti cer scuze pentru ca te am jignit. Faptul e ca prea mult urasc oameni care isi despretuiesc tara si sunt ei primi care nu fac nimic. Prea mult me am saturat sa aud cretinii care pleaca in Italia sau in alte tarii convinsi ca pot castiga miliarde facand nimic asa cumfac aici. Prea mult me am saturat sa aud unii care bea la terasa 24h si apoi sa vaita cu nu au cu ce trai si isi injura tara si pleaca peste hotare. Tu nu faci parte din astia si eu am gresit ca te am judecat fara de a te cunoaste. Ai dreptate, ii inteleg pe aia care au plecat pentru ca nu aveau incotro si care muncesc cinstit dar, asa reman scarbit cand vad unor compatrioti nostri care se poarta asa cum am zis inainte. Da e adevarat, aici in Tm situatia e mai buna, avem un salariu mediu mai ridicat, multe investitii straine si somaj mic, dar eu nu me simt timisorean, ci ROMAN, si tara mea incepe la Nadlac si termina la Tiraspol, asa ca pentru mine saracia celor din Focsani sau din Calarasi sau din Tiraspol, sau din Chisinau, este aceasi cum ar fi la Timisoara. Tu judeci Noua Dreapta fara a o cunoaste bine. Zici ca suntem extremisti...poate ai dreptate. Dar in verme ce DEMOCRATICI astia care stau la guvernare isi construiau vile si palate SAU UMPLEAU BUZUNARE RROMILOR PENTRU O SOCIETATE DEMOCRATICA SI TOLERANTA, noi am fost unici care am fost anul trecut unde erau frati nostri sinistrati si i am ajutat asa cumputeam cu mainile noastre si voiinta noastra. Eu am ajutat unor tarani sa isi repare casa impreuna cu camarazi mei si te pot asigura ca a fost ceva minunat. Asa ca daca asta inseama a fi extremist eu ma mandresc de asta! Si iti mai spun o chestie: DACA AS FI EU LA GUVERNARE AS TRAGE 2000 DE STICLE DE GAZ NERVIN-SAARIN ASUPRA TIGANILOR!! AVEM 2 MILIOANE DIN SCARBELOR ASTIA SI O STICLA DE NERVIN OMOARA 1000 DE PERSOANE. I AS GAZA PE TOTI SI AS DUCE CADAVERE LOR LA GUNOI! AU UMPLUT TARA DE FURTURI, DE MANELE, DE PALATE FACUTE CU BANI FURATI, SI ACU NE SI DAUNEAZA PESTE HOTARE, FURAND SI CERSIND SI SPUNAND ALTORA CA IS ROMANI!! ASTA ESTE IDEALUL MEU DACA O CONSIDERI EXTREMIST BINE, IS MANDRU DE ASTA! DAR CUM A FI ROMANIA FARA CIORI? IA INCEARCA SA IMAGINEZI SI IMI VEI DA DREPTATE. Stefan, thank you again my friend. I have seen your pictures of Banja Luka! I was impressed! Is a lovely town. In my opinion is a mistake you will not come back in Serbia, because is your country. There are your origin, there is your blood, and is also a beautiful country, who is rising up. Yes Banat is divided in our two countries, is very similar to Vojvodina, the same architetonic style and the same landscapes. Is a beautiful region. Regards my kameraten, Vlad

Seneka		03-Apr-2007 02:17
In primul rand Vlad permite-mi sa-ti multumesc pentru minunata caracterizare pe care mi-ai facut-o. Dar te asigur ca nu ma incdrez in standardele pe cere le-ai impus.Ma bucur ca-ti merge bine dar asta nu inseamna ca ai dreptul sa-i judeci pe oamenii care au plecat in afara pentru a-si face un trai decent. Poate ca tu ai avut un trecut mai usor, o soarta mai favorabila decat altii.. Crede-ma ca oamenii aia au plecat pentru ca nu au vut incotro. Stiu ca in Timisoara e alta viata, dar in Moldova e cu totul alta treaba, in continuare gasesti coruptie si grupuri de oameni ce nu reprezinta altceva decat o adevarata mafie. In Focsani cred ca 10% din populatie e plecata in Italia, toti acesti oameni au plecat pentru ca nu mai suportau conditiile oribile in care stateau. Si totusi multumita lor, economia locala se mai misca din loc. Zici ca eu sunt un om de nimic? Daca e asa, prefer sa fiu un om de nimic decat o fiinta lipsita de umanitate. O ultima intrebare: tu de cate ori in viata ai fost sa muncesti pamantul despre care vorbesti? Crede-ma ca si acum imi amintesc cand la 12 ani aveam bataturi de la sapa. PS: Nu-mi urasc tara si nici nu-mi dispretuiesc radacinile dar poti fi sigur ca n-o sa iubesc niciodata extremismul sau alienarile bizare ale Noii Drepte.

Guest		02-Apr-2007 22:51
Vlad, Yes I do wish to return to France, not to Serbia, I still must pay off some loans I have from university fees and the wages in Serbia are pathetic, what I can get for a year's work in Serbia I can get for two months here! Maybe I will return to Serbia when I am an old man, but until then NEVER! Yes I know the region of Banat, it is shared between our two countries isn't it? I have been there I think, but for me all of Vojvodina looks the same, just flat and sunflower filled fields, with too many Hungarians and Slovakians. It's great to here you received your paycheck, I hope you enjoy spending it. I also like to go and party at the weekend, particularly in Central London and in Hammersmith too, where my friend from school owns a night club. London's nightlife is reasonably good, but it is no Belgrade! That is the best thing about Belgrade, the nightlife is the best in Europe I have ever seen! And I have seen the nightlife of Paris, London, Madrid, Croatia, Banja Luka, Lille and many more cities. Regards kameraten Stefan

Vlad		02-Apr-2007 15:48
ce vrei mai? am vorbit cu tine? eu fac ce vreau cu viata mea si te asigur ca imi mere bine. Daca tu esti un magar din aia care isi urasc tara si abia asteapta sa plece peste hotare e treaba ta, inseama ca esti un om de nimic. Eu imi iubesc tara, si nu mi e rusine de asta, mai mult imi e rusine ca in tara mea exista oameni ca tine care stiu numai sa planga si sa despretuiasca radacinile lor, care fug ilegal peste hotare pentru ca prefera sa stearga la cur babe din Italia sau sa culeaga capsuni in Spania decat sa munceasca aici la noi unde este de lucru. Avem hectare intregi necultivate pentru ca exista oameni ca tine care in loc de a munci pleaca in Italia sa cerseasca sau in Spania la capsuni sau in Austria la sters de cur. Eu in timp ce tu te plangi ca ti e scarba de tara ta, am fost impreuna cu camarazi mei anul trecut pentru a ajuta frati nostri care aveau dreptul de sa vaita pentru ca inundatiile i destrusesera casa si pamant. Ei aveau dreptul de a plange,nu tu si oameni de cacat ca tine care au tinerete si putere de a munci si prefera sa i umple curu la italieni sau la spanioli. Nu de tara mea mi e rusine!!! Am vazut oameni aici in Banat anul trecut care si cu casa destrusa si puneau mana la munca pentru a reincepe cu cea mai mare demnitate! Am vazut tineri voluntari din toata tara muncind cu mandrie pentru a si ajuta compatrioti lor. De asta imi iubesc tara, si daca din pacate are si oameni de nimic ca tine care in loc de a munci, sa plang ascultand manele si fugind spre Vest ilegal. Asa ca in locul tau as gandi de 10000000 de ori inainte de a deschide gurita. Asta daca esti roman, daca esti maghiar e alta poveste.....

seneka		02-Apr-2007 02:07
Bai VLAD tu esti sanatos? Stai de doi ani pe forumul asta? Parca nu prea imi vine sa cred. Is doua variante: Ori esti dus cu capul ori te plateste cineva din diverse interese politice. Vezi-ti frate de propria viata. N-o sa moara tara fara Noua Dreapta. Las-o moarta, zici ca guvernarea actuala e plina de demagogie? Toate au fost asa de cand e tara asta. Asa cum e si Noua Dreapta. THE BEST REVENGE IS LIVING WELL

Vlad ROMANIAN		31-Mar-2007 17:00
Stefan, have you plan to live in French or to come back in Serbia in the future?

Guest		31-Mar-2007 15:51
How come Serbian minority in Romania hasn't got any issues?

Vlad ROMANIAN		31-Mar-2007 10:12
To Nagy: yes I hate democracy I hate minorities who don't respect our sovereignity I hate all who are our enemy. This not meaning I hate all hungarians, I know also good hungarians who are in good relations with me, but I hate all the hungarians like you who are so pretentious and arrogant. These are the peiople that we aggress and we persecute, only arrogant hungarians like you and not all hungarian peoples. I have said in my precedent comment that I admire hungarian architeture and I thank hungarian for their good administrative culture who permit to Transylvania to be developed and with order. I also kjnow mixed families and that's good. But all must be do in the respect of OUR SOVEREIGNITY. To Stefan: thank you my friend for you beautiful words, I see you are too a great honest man who work hardly for his future and his valours. I want to say you a thing: DON'T LOSE YOUR BELIEVE ON SERBIA! You will see it will rise up, bceuse serb peoples is serious and it will have a great future, for example Belgrade is consider the City of Future by Financial Times, and your economy begin to increase. Yes I understand you are angry for your political actual leaders. I also hate our actual democratic leadership because is full of demagogy, but I still believe in our spirit, and I am sure that you too in your hearth continue to believe in Serbia. Is good that you love also your second Motherland French, like me too love the country of my dad Italy. This week was very hard in my job, we were full of customers (90% italians). I took yesterday my first wage and today that I am free, I will go with friends to drink and to a Night Club, for enjoy. Now is wonderful ,because I have my autonomy sourse of money ( my wage) and I can enjoy without to ask money to my parents. Certainly I think too that I must mantain a part of my wage for my future. You know Banat? Regards my kameraten Vlad

Guest		30-Mar-2007 22:33
Guest, vrlo su smesni tvoje komentare Guest, your comments are highly amusing :-)

Guest		30-Mar-2007 22:28
Vlad, It is great to here you feel so pationnately for your cause, so I researched your party Noua Dreapta to see its basic ideals and what it stands for as a party. I totally agree with EVERY policy they have! This is surely a great party and it is a wonderful thing that you support the same ideals and have the same valours as me. Both our nations have strong right radical movements and this is an excellent example to show the similarities between the mentalities of our two peoples. I wish you all the best of luck with your job and particularly in your exams, for if you are successful in passing these, you can realize your ultimate goal of making a difference to how your Fatherland is run. It was very noble and humble of you to go and help those who were directly affected by last year's Balkan Danube floods, you surely sound like a great and honourable man even at the age of 23 with great morals and ideas for the progression of your nation. I used to have such great ideas for Serbia, but over the last few years I have lost faith in the people of Serbia, they allowed the country to crumble how it did, they failed themselves and I don't want to think good for people who don't even think good for themselves, so now I look after myself, my family and to a certain extent friends, who are real friends. Your wage is very impressive, far above the average, almost double infact! Here the wages are high, but things are very expensive, for example 1 litre of unleaded petrol costs 92p (at the moment, before it rose to £1), this is almost 1.40euros for 1 LITRE OF PETROL!! Everything here is the most expensive in the World I think, houses here in London, in the worst neighbourhoods, with 2 bedrooms, small bathroom and small kitchen cost over 500,000euros. It is impossible for a new buyer to get onto the property ladder when the average wage in 23,000euros a year. However, once tax has been deducted the average wage is only 18,000euros or so. It is very hard for me, I must work lots of overtime in order to be able to pay my rent, eat, and save money for my future child's university fund. Also I go on holiday twice a year because I can afford it as I have no spouse as of yet. I would like to move back to France, my second Motherland where I spent my early childhood again because it is much more beautiful and peaceful there, I hate it here to tell the truth! I like very much here in England the BNP (British National Party), it has similar valours to your Noua Dreapta but less extreme, because here in England such extreme policies would disqualify that party from existing. England is the only country in the World where it is not safe to be a nationalist, to love your own country here is like a crime, because inferior races have been granted so many rights they are NOT ENTITLED TO! Niggers, Pakis and Arab SCUMS have more rights than Christian, European White citizens, it is PATHETIC! If it wasn't for these scums destroying society England would be a great country to live in and above all SAFER. Look at this Hungarian guy! haha NAGY you are a Magyar, we can see that from your name, if you don't like it in Romania and it is so bad for you why don't you go and cross the border to Hungary? They are both EU countries now I think you don't even require a passport to cross the border, so pack your bags and leave! Stop complaining and think why, if at all, you are getting 'abused'. It is because you Hungarians like to bark when we give you rights you are never happy you want more and more and eventually you want independence. You want to take what is not yours? That is not how it works, I though Hungarians were more civil than Albanians, however, evidently this is not the case! I will also suggest to you that Hungarians' population in Romania has encountered a NATURAL DECREASE over the last century, not that 400,000 Hungarians have been secretly murdered as you suggest. I can tell you that the reason the Hungarian population has decreased is because you average birth rate is low, below 2 per couple, this means that over time the population decreases naturally. This is how Albanian population has risen, because they have not yet evolved from that tribal mentality they still possess, so they have 10 children per family, regardless of whether they can provide for them or not, just so they can have them and increase their numbers like savages to become the majority on Serbian land over a long period of time. Regards for now my kameraten and Sieg Heil! History always repeats itself! Stefan

Guest		29-Mar-2007 17:38
Why don't you all go to hell?

Nagy		29-Mar-2007 15:26
To Vlad: Nouadreapta, is a bastard party! I don't know how a Nazi Party can to be accept in a democratic system like EU. You must shame yourself for your crimes! You aggress hungarians kids on streets and are protect by your police, because you are cowards. Vlad, go to hell! I would to kill you on a day you are the symbol of all I hate! You are the typical person that we must defeat for a better and democratic world! Peoples like you caused and continue to cause still today crimes and problems for your pathetic crazy and perverse political ideas!

Nagy		29-Mar-2007 15:18
I have written only to answer to that bastard Neonazi of Vlad, who is like all the romanians a xenophobic and a neo-nazis who hate all other peoples. You don't know what meaning to be hungarian in Romania, to walk with afraid on the streets because peoples like Vlad and his neonazis brothers of Nouadreapta walk with PItbull and aggress you. Yes. This is the truth! In Romania neo-nazis aggress other minotities like we hungarians and others. This is a violation of human rights, and this must be known by everybody who supported the integration in EU of Romania. They are bastards and racist! We are under their tyranny by centuries! They became more than us because they called millions of their brothers of Wallachia here in Transylvania for become majority. Romanians here in Transylvania are 80% caused their racial policy. We hungarians are only 18% because they persecuted us expecially in these last 17 years. 17 years ago we were 2millions and now we are only 1.600.000, while romanians are 5millions. This is a racial policiy,typic of uncivilized and bastard people like romanians. My accuse is against all europeans who permit to this Nazi State to come in EU and NATO! All orthodox peoples in facts are uncivilized. I don't know an orthodox civil and rich country. All are poor and miserable like also you!

Guest		27-Mar-2007 17:26
Nagy please this is an old Belgrade gallery, this is not the place for your arguments, we could now speak about Hungarian world war II crimes etc.. People go to some political forum..

Nagy		27-Mar-2007 15:30
ForVlad:Romania is Nazi State,you speak without sense only because you are romanian and you can't know how we hungarians suffer under your tiranny. Each day hungarian students in Harghita county are injured and aggressed by their romanian collegues. If you walk in the Cluj's roads and you try to speak hungarian, you risk to be aggressed by romanian nazis gangs expecially of your formation NOUADREAPTA, who was responsable for many aggressions against hungarians. I live in Sfantu Gheorghe, here we are victims of your Nazi propaganda and you xenophobic stupid policy. If an hungarian is aggressed, romanian police is indifferent and we have not rights. Shame you you and all your brothers! By Trianon's day you persecute us and you are still surprise that we hate you! Of course we hate you! Because you are the greatest nazis and bastard people here in East. You hate all is not romanian. You don't know the qualities of West like democracy and tollerance, therefore you are so uncivilized and poor, because all romanians are like you, nazis, and without civil culture. By 1990 each year we hungarians are less, caused to your persecution. In 1990 we were 2million and now we are only 1.600.000. Shame you and your people!

Guest		27-Mar-2007 14:40
haha omgggg someone lives with 62 Euros and come to spawn on a Belgrade gallery is it Ilir's third personality ????

Aferdita Zenelaj		27-Mar-2007 03:41
to all readers ermin hasan mustafa he is my brother he fought in war against serbs he is my live hero i did read his messages about serbs i dont blame him or ilir

Aferdita Zenelaj		27-Mar-2007 03:31
Every Good Thing Comes Only From God Peace be upon you My name is Aferdita Zenelaj and I was born on the 1st of April, 1970, in Gjakova, Kosova. Before the war I was married to Driton Zenelaj who was from Gjakova. We lived a good life and God blessed us with two children: a boy named Qendrimi and a girl named Qendresa, both of whom brought much joy into our lives. My husband worked as a math teacher whilst I worked as a tailor. The situation turned bad however with Serbian hostility towards the Albanians. My husband began military service but some months later he fell in battle in his native village of Jabllanice (or Eagle, as it is called today). Hearing the news of his death is now hard for me to describe. During arial bombardments our people where expelled from Kosova and sent by force into neighbouring countries. My family went to Albania. In the beginning, we stayed for two months in Mjede, near Shkodra, and then three weeks in Tirana. For Albania and its people I have only good words because they offered us all they had. After the Serbs left Kosova, we returned to our homes. But what was left? Only horror and destruction. Gjakova was razed to the ground, many had been killed and more were missing. My children and I found refuge in an abandoned apartment as we had no other place to go to. Up to this day we have nightmares about being thrown out. After the war many organizations came to help, one of them was Small Kindness which was devoted to helping orphans. Regarding the Small Kindness Kosova Orphan & Family Fund I have only words of gratitude. There was a time when we did not have anything, but KOFF came to our rescue. (I want to thank you, all the employees of KOFF for the good work you’ve done.) Apart from distributing money, they gave us books about Islam. It’s the third year that I now pray regularly and believe in Allah (God) the Almighty. I take care to educate my children about Islam. Qendrimi is now nine years old and is an excellent pupil and knows the Shehada (testimony of faith) and three chapters from the Holy Quran. Qendresa is an excellent pupil as well. When I pray, my children pray with me. Allah took away my husband, but gave me Islam in return. Since the first time I prayed Salat, I felt calmness in my heart and soul and whatever happens, I know that it is with His Decree. Now years have passed since the war finished. Even though I do not have a home and live with 62 Euros of social help, I am not scared of poverty because it is Allah alone who provides. I pray to Him to strengthen my Iman (faith) so one day I will put on the hijab and go to the sacred mosque in Makkah. In the end, I ask Allah to forgive all the believers and to have mercy on them. May Allah grant them Paradise. Peace be with you. Aferdita Zenelaj

Vlad		26-Mar-2007 15:59
To Stefan: I am an ambitious boy. My hope for my future is to come in political environment of my Fatherland to do something of great and good for her. All my life is for Romania, and each day when I rise up I think how I can do for my country. For example when near here last summer was that rain who caused problems, I went like a volunteer for help my brothers who musted save their things. Was a wonderful experience who make me proud because I did my contribuite for my Fatherland and for the people who have my same romanian blood. I went in that operations together my kameraten of NOUADREAPTA, our Right Radical Nationalist Party. I am happy for this my job because the wage is very good. Here the medium wage is 270 euro and my wage is 420. I am at the cash for now and maybe next months I will become a FAMILY CONSULENT, who means to open the c/c of our customers. For now I am very glad for this job and next 4 days I will take my first wage, I think I will do many many things with him, expecially for travels, for example this summer I want to go to Barcellona a week end. My University is very difficoult, expecially in what concern LAW, because I prefer HISTORY. My political ideals are the follwing: I HATE DEMOCRACY, I HATE ENEMY OF ROMANIA, WHO ARE HUNGARIAN RADICALS, GYPSY AND SIONISTS. MY DREAM IS TO CLEAN ROMANIA BY GYPSY AND HUNGARIAN RADICALS LIKE LAZLO TOKES AND SZASZ JENO. MY DREAM IS A GREAT ROMANIA LIKE IN THE PAST, WITH OUR ANCIENT LANDS: MOLDOVA, BUCOVINA, AND SOUTH DOBRUGIA. MY DREAM IS TO KILL ALL OUR ACTUAL LEADERS LIKE THAT PIG OF OUR PRESIDENT TRAIAN BASESCU AND PRIME MINISTER POPESCU TARICEANU, WHO STEAL THE RESOURCE OF OUR FATHERLAND FOR BECOME RICH. WE HAVE ALL IN OUR COUNTRY: OIL, GOLD, COKE, GAS, MINERALS, CORN, ETC...AND ALL THESE RESOURCES ARE SOLD DAYLY TO WEST BUSINNES MEN. THIS IS A SAD THING. I am only 23 but I am a boy full of valours and the first my valours are GOD, ROMANIA AND FAMILY. In my opinion democracy is the best problem of our generation! I inspired myself to Iron Guard regime. I hope we will have again that regime for become again strong. I HATE USA WHO ARE THE ARROGANT POWER OF THE WORLD WHO DESTROY FOREGIN CIVILTY AND PEOPLES. I have a lot of friends, we go out each week end together in disco or clubs, here in Timisoara is full of them. In week end we love to DRINK RIVERS OF BEER !!! We have here in our town the best beer of Romania. I love also to go to gym and to swim. I praticse swimming 7 years. Is my favourite sport. ALL IS ROMANIAN IS IN MY HEARTH MY LIFE IS FOR MY FATHERLAND, MY HEARTH IS FOR MY PEOPLE, MY BLOOD FOR OUR HONOUR AND MY VALOURS FOR OUR CHRISTIANITY. Regards my kameratne

Guest		26-Mar-2007 13:08
www.pbase.com/stoller31/romania Go there and look at the time of the first 2 posts, "Ilir Lika" write it both ... he is sick.. poor son of albanian whore

Guest		26-Mar-2007 13:05
ERMIN HASAN MUSTAFA Aren't you ashame of your name??? :D :D :D It's damn funny :D But I still think its that albanian emigrant ilir lika, son of an albanian whore.. He has multiple personality.. God forgive him..

ILIR LIKA		26-Mar-2007 06:24
TO VLAD www.pbase.com/stoller31/romania YOU FUCKING SERB ROMANIAN

ERMIN HASAN MUSTAFA		26-Mar-2007 02:36
TO VLAD no coments about you i like romanian people they are old nation they made history of europe romanian people they fought well in all ivasions of asian people towards balkan i got a sympathy about romanian people romanian are dacian people little mix with slavic people but more close to albanian people by blod we are brothers mr VLAD you are not a romanian you are a serb from romania soo say anything you like i like romanian people go and move to serbia than TO ILIR LIKA qa bone a je mir o vlla me pun a po lodhesh si po ja kaloni naj sen te re a te vjeter a ka desha te njohem me ty ma shum po pate email qe nuk e perdor ma qo nje email tanaj ja japim njanit tjetrit emaillin e vertet vdekje serbve BESA BES tutjeta e per te mira qao

ERMIN HASAN MUSTAFA		26-Mar-2007 02:25
Kosova is a Albanian land - Serbs are, for the most part, illegal immigrants - and slavic people gave these people part of someone else's land in 1912 because it seemed a right thing to do. In less than 10 years when few serbs will be left in Kosova and when they ask for their own rights they will get a shit we will give them one way ticket to belgrade. What happened in Kosova in between 1912 and 1999 will happen in serbia How will this be possible? - Well, with Kosova and Albania when they will join the union as one ALBANIAN Country like ILIR LIKA said UNITED ALBANIA Serbs will run away even from serbia they will go back to their land in ural sea next to mongols this will happend trust me - you can not live with serbs they are gypsi people and dirty people we albanian are ILLYRIAN arian race Orthodox is not a religion - it is a malicious mental retardation

Guest		25-Mar-2007 16:00
hey Vlad, My Mother is half French, so I am 3/4 Serbian and 1/4 French by blood this is why I can speak French, I have many relatives there and I like to go there over Christmas and New Year for a few days while I have break from work. If you pass these university exams you speak of, will you attempt to find another job in that field that is perhaps even higher paid or are you happy at your new job already? I am interested to know how you learnt English too, was it at school? Yes our height is a clear sign of our superior genes, my Father was 187cm and my mother was 175cm so I am glad that the members of my family as my bloodline has progressed all increase in height, hopefully when I have children they will grow to be equally as tall and broad-shouldered. I recently visited New York City and I was greatly surprised at how patriotic American people were, if at times a little stupid and blinded by George Bush. They have on almost every building in the whole of Manhatten at least one American flag, on the major streets such as fifth avenue there are at least 3 on every facade! It is a great thing to see how a nation's citizens love their country and I am glad to hear you say this is also the case in Romania. It was also once the case in former Yugoslavia, and still now there are some extreme nationalist Serbs who still love Serbia and will die for her, I however have lost interest in such things. Under Milosevic I was one of these people, but since the takeover of the traitorous so-called 'democratic' parties I no longer care what happens when the majority of the nation is willing to put their future in the hands of men who would sell away every citizen in the nation if the West asked them to. Despite this I am glad each election to again see my party, the Radicals gain more and more support, gaining the relative majority last time, I think that once Kosovo leaves Serbia in the next election the Radicals can win the absolute majority. In any case we shall see. I also listen to some of Ceca's music although a lot of it becomes very same-y and tedious, turbo-folk is pretty much all the same now. I mainly like trance and eurodance music from DJs in the USA or Eastern Europe and also some easy-listening for when I am in the mood to relax and sometimes sleep. Regards my kameraten Sieg Heil

ILIR LIKA		25-Mar-2007 08:13
ha ha ha you fucking serbs remind me a movies partizan and german ha ha allways serbs won serbs are the bigest looser just pashalluk of belgrade is going to be soo when even vojvodina will go fuck serb nation filthy pigs

Vlad_Romanian		24-Mar-2007 23:24
CARLA DEL PONTE THE GREATEST KURVA OF THE WORLD. FUCK HER AND AJA'S TRIBUNALLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Vlad		24-Mar-2007 23:22
To Ratko Mladic Serbian Hero: ZIVEO RATKO, ARKAN I BELI ORLOVI. RATKO MLADIC IS A MAN OF HONOUR WITH A GREAT COURAGE, HIS BATTLE IS THE BATTLE OF NEW EUROPEAN GENERATION, HIS TEACHMENT IS THE CALL OF THE ANCIENT WARRIORS AND HIS ENEMY ARE THE ENEMY OF THE TRUE CHRISTIAN EUROPE.

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		24-Mar-2007 18:42
You';re right,but ONLY about Albanians...Ratko Mladic is NOT a war criminal,I think you watch too much programes like CNN and BBC...The truth is,and now it is all turning that way that in Srebrenica were masacred Serbs too.General Ratko Mladic was in Srebrenica but did NOT command Serbian soldiers to kill all those civilians!!!In Sarajevo at the begining of the war muslim civilians on the market were killed NOT by Serbs,but by Bosnian muslim forces and the whole world because of western Television started to get wrong picture about my people,and that was done for Serbs to be seen in the eyes of the world as killers.I'll now tell you one non deniable fact-The first ever war crime in Balakan wars of '90s was commited by muslim forces on SERBS..just that...

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		24-Mar-2007 18:37
You';re right,but ONLY about Albanians...Ratko Mladic is NOT a war criminal,I think you watch too much programes like CNN and BBC...The truth is,and now it is all turning that way that in Srebrenica were masacred Serbs too.General Ratko Mladic was in Srebrenica but did NOT command Serbian soldiers to kill all those civilians!!!In Sarajevo at the begining of the war muslim civilians on the market were killed NOT by Serbs,but by Bosnian muslim forces and the whole world because of western Television started to get wrong picture about my people,and that was done for Serbs to be seen in the eyes of the world as killers.I'll now tell you one non deniable fact-The first ever war crime in Balakan wars of '90s was commited by muslim forces on SERBS..just that...

Guest		24-Mar-2007 15:05
Ratko Mladic is not a Serbian hero, he is alleged war criminal, and should go to court. Anyway, Albanians aren't a nation, thus you can't say : "death to albanian nation".. They are just some low intellect, ugly physionomy group of people living in the south-west part of the Balkan peninsula

Ratko Mlladic-Serbian hero		24-Mar-2007 14:25
to all Albanian assholes ''Since Ottoman rule, the majority of Albanians have been Muslim. Most of these are Sunni Muslims, and a minority (20% of total Muslims) are Bektashi. Significant numbers of Albanians are Albanian Orthodox or Roman Catholic, and some have no formal religious affiliation (c.f. religion in Albania). This rich blend of religions has rarely caused religious strife and fanaticism.The Albanians are descendants of ancient Balkan people, but the exact identification is still under debate. Islam replaced Christianity as the majority religion during the period of Ottoman Turkish rule from the 15th century until 1912, though Eastern Orthodox Christianity and Roman Catholicism are also practiced. Among the poorest of Europe's nationalities, in the latter half of the 20th century Albanians experienced the highest rate of natural population growth of any of Europe's major indigenous ethnic groups, increasing their numbers from 1.5 million around 1900 and fewer than 2.5 million in 1950. Both Kosovo and the western regions of the Republic of Macedonia have in recent years seen armed movements (so called Kosovo Liberation Army, UCPMB, Macedonian NLA,all terroristic) aiming either for independence, greater autonomy.The fate of Kosovo remains uncertain owing to the reluctance of the Albanian majority to contemplate a restoration of Serbian sovereignty and of the United Nations and NATO to separate the territory definitively from Serbia in contravention of UN Security Council Resolution 1244 from 1999.'' Ilir,I believe you're the same person as Hasan.Fuck you Albanian assholes.Fuck you Ermin Hasan mustafa.I hate your people,your culture and your nation VERY MUCH.You say you don't hate SERBS,why should you?You're stealing our land,not opposite.HA HA HA great Albania,it's gonna be GREAT SERBIA.Come on,come face to face with our army,come on! We'll extirpate all your ,,soldiers''...Stefane,odlicne su ti galerije,pozdrav od brata Srbina.Vlad,regards. DEATH TO ALBANIAN NATION ORTHODOX SERBIA IS ETERNAL CP6UJA qO TOKUJA UNITED STATES OF ORTHODOXY

Vlad		23-Mar-2007 19:44
STEFAN, WE ARE TWO TALL PEOPLES, ME AND YOU ARE THE CONFIRMATION OF OUR GREAT RACES. WE TWO ARE TALL AND ATHLETICS WHILE ILIR LIKA IS CERTAINLY A LITTLE BABY WITH SQUARED HEAD AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH

Vlad		23-Mar-2007 19:35
Hello Stefan, I also love serb music expecially CECA, LEPA BRENA AND CHETNIKS who mix serb folk music with dance. I like also serb patriottic songs as MARS NA DRINU, who was chanted by DELIJA ULTRAS in Marakanà on match Serbia-Bosna. I was very impresed to see the wonderfull atmosphere of that match. I am very glad you will come in my Fatherland, I will glad to meet you and to show you also our beautiful monuments and things. You was in Cluj a beautiful town of Transylvania, it has a beautiful austro-hungarican architeture, and in last 7 years known a good development. IN what concern hungarians you re totally right! They are 7% of total population in Romania and 20% in Transyvania. In some county they are also 70% like in Harghita county and Covasna county. They refuse to speak romanian and hate Romanian culture. They often say that they are persecuted in Romania and that romanians are DEVILS or ANIMALS who persecute them. Gyorgy Frunda an hungarian representant of hungarian minority in Transylvania told in Bruxelles that Romania is like Nazi Germany and hungarians can not speak their language or pratics their culture. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE!!!!! Hungarian minority in Romania has each Monday a space in our National Romanian First Channel (TVR1) has 2 political parties and also their schools. The Governor of Harghita County is hungarian. They are free, not persecuted! I not hate hungarians, they are civils and their mittle-european spirit permit a good administrative culture in Transylvania. Not all hungarians are the same, but most of them are still IMPERIALIST and hate us. IN LAST YEARS ROMANIAN NATIONALISM RISE UP AND THEY ARE LESS ARROGANT THAN IN THE PAST. For example Gheorghe Funar, the former Governor of Cluj Napoca, ERECTED IN EACH CORNER OF THE TOWN ROMANIAN FLAGS. ROMANIAN STUDENTS IN CLUJ WALK WITH OUR FLAG IN FOULLARD AND IN MOST OF THE TRANSYLVANIAN TOWNS EACH CORNER HAS A ROMANIAN FLAG. I AM PROUD FOR IT. I am 1,90 high and with 80 kg. I pratic gym and I have a SLAVIC DIMENSIONS eh eh, very tall. We romanians are tall in general also if not like Slavic peoples. All my kameraten and friends here say that I have romanian dimensions and italian phisionomy, because I am with dark hair and look like SOUTH ITALIANS (this thanks to my dad, who unfortunatelly is not high like me ah ah ah ah). I am 23 yo, now I start to work at Unicredit bank here in Timisoara, and italian bank. I am very glad for this job also because I have good collegues (3 of them are italians) and the wage is good, and for a young boy of 23 yo like me was great to found so quickly a good job. The only problem is that I must still finish my University, I must to do still an exam very ugly PRIVATE LAW. I have a brother also him very tall, and with a total romanian phisionomy. My father is italian from Reggio Calabria a beatufiull town in front of Sicily, founded by ancient greeks and with a wonderfull sea. I go there very often to visit my italian cousins. My mother is from Wallachia (South Romania). Are you live in England? You said that you have french origins. Is good also for you to know a foreing language thanks to your origin. See you my kameraten ------------------------------BOG CUVA RUMUNE I SRBE-----------------------------------------

haber		21-Mar-2007 07:48
haben guten ferlagen klagen ficken meine aschloo jaaa guten bruten doctor ja wooohlen

Guest		20-Mar-2007 19:27
Hey Vlad, I searched for these bands and in particular that song by DJ Project and I was happy to see you have a very similar taste in music as I do. If you would like to listen to a song I like very much go to: www.myspace.com/technoaereo and select 'Track 1' on the media player on the right of the page near the top. I definately plan to visit Romania again because last time I went was early in the year 2001 and it was cold and I only stayed a couple of days in Cluj Napoca and only one day in Bucharest with an aunty who was there on business (she worked for Nokia). It is a shame there is so many Hungarians in Romania causing trouble especially in the central regions where in some places they make the majority of the population. Hungarians in Serbia are not too much of a problem although some of them are starting to bark recently and I can forsee that there will be problems in Vojvodina if we do not get some strong leadership soon. What are your dimensions (how tall are you) and what is your weight? I am 189 cm and 90 kilograms. My favourite past time is basketball and I also regularly train Higashi Karate at my local club. Kind regards my kameraten. Stefan

Guest		20-Mar-2007 14:48
strongest county in the balkans looooool :D maybe strongest in exporting whores in EU ? Albanians you are the undeveloped country in northern hemisphere and albanian people have the ugliest face physiognomy in the world..

Voja		20-Mar-2007 04:44
Albania was, Albania is and Albania will always be country of poor gipsies...KEEP IN ON UR MIND SHIPTARI....JEBEM VAM SVIMA MATER...MILOSEVIS- SERBIAN HERO...KILLED THOUSENDS OF ALBANIAN BASTERDS

ERMIN HASAN MUSTAFA		19-Mar-2007 05:04
to ilir lika ilir qa bone si je vlla keke burr tamam rrofsh sa malet tona shqiptare qenke atedhetar i flakt per komb keta chetnikt jan per me ja u qi nanen ne pidh dhe krejt familjen mos ta nin o burr i dgeut kosoven e fituem dhe se shpejti do te behemi shqypnia e madhe jemi kan burra dhe kena me kan burre e fituem at qe e deshem ti a japim njanit tjetren fjalen se do i mrojna tokat tona shekullore te fala ke shum BESA BES naten e mir e kalofshi mir gjith te mira ne jet

ERMIN HASAN MUSTAFA		19-Mar-2007 04:57
to serbs I do not hate any nation nor any people, nor any religion, nor any person. I want them to be free to say what they wish, however if they try to mislead the public, I will be there to take their argument on, because I do not want to live in a dictatorship ever again. Especially, not in a serbian style-chetnik dictatorship Kosova is a free country now soon by end of summer Kosova will be a indepedent country. serbian people should think now for future and be more friendly to their neighbours because soon or later Kosova will join union with ALBANIA and we will be the strongest country in balkan if not mama mia for serbs thank you for reading my msg ERMIN HASAN MUSTAFA from PRISHTINA at present living in LONDON

Vlad		18-Mar-2007 12:41
MY FAVORUITE MUSIC IS DISCO: HERE IN ROMANIA I LOVE THE FOLLOWING BANDS: CARGO DJ PROJECT 3 SUD EAST See on Youtube DJ PROJECT the song INCA O NOAPTE is MY FAVOURITE!!!I LOVE IT

Vlad		18-Mar-2007 12:14
My kameraten thank you for your congratulation. For the start I began well, the collegue who is my tutor for the first month said me that I work well, but is very hard also because we have a lot of customers who are all the italians businees men here who ask for a lot of operations in a same moment. eh eh Yes there is a great and very well integrated serb community. We have in VICTORIA SQUARE the Serb Chrurch who is very beautiful in architectural plane. Many shops have the double language. Also Timisoara has the DOUBLE NAME in serb is known as TEMISVAR. My town is very beautiful because is Mittle-european it seem an austriac town and here live many communities: ROMANIANS, HUNGARIANS, GERMANS, SERBS AND 30000 ITALIANS. Italians are the 10% of total population of my town, because many of them came here by the 1990 for businnes and choosed to move here. Come here if you would like, and we can enjoy very much. I can present you also Goran Mrakic the Leader of Romanian Nationalist Party Nouadreapta of Timisoara section. he has serb origin. regards Brate.

ILIR LIKA		18-Mar-2007 07:28
stefan serb and vlad is a same person ha ha ha fuck you man get now one more new nickname CHETNIK

Guest		17-Mar-2007 18:39
Vlad, Thank you for the translation, I like that song very much, trance music is my favourite genre. What type of music do you like most? That is excellent news congratulations my kameraten on your new job I am very happy for you, I pray it all goes well for you. I am glad your exam and hard work was successful and I hope your provisional period goes well and that the job serves you well. It is then a great advantage that you know Italian in this case. I have always been told by my family how important it is to know at least 2 languages, my father always told me when I was a child "The value of a man is calculated by how many languages he knows." It surely is a sign of an educated person when they can communicate in a language alternate to their mother-tongue. I can speak English, Serbo-Croat and French, and this has been very useful in getting me into university in the past and into employment on my Curriculum Vitae. Italy have done very well in the European Rugby 'Six Nations' Championship moving up from their usual annual last place to 4th, winning back to back in the last couple of weeks. Today they played against Ireland, a much stronger side, and lost, but despite this did not give up hope and continued to battle well into extra time to score a crucial try (goal) that allowed France to win the Championship but superior score-difference. Aparently rugby is becoming increasingly popular in Italy and now after this year's performance by the Italian Rugby Team they are no longer the easy to beat minnows they once were. Before I came to this forum I had no idea there were Serbs in Romania, I am glad to see that we are both minorities in each other's nations and that our friendship will prosper. I was wondering, have any significant economic changes taken place in Romania in terms of reforms or anything similar since their entry into the European Union in January? Warm regards my kameraten and once again congratulations on your new job. Stefan Long Live Orthodoxy Death to all Muslims and Islam!

Vlad		16-Mar-2007 23:28
Stefan, I know very well this song is of disco with a male voice, the english words are: IT TURN ALL AROUND THE ROOM, WHILE IS DANCE. IT TURN AROUND THE ROOM, WHILE IS DANCE I WANT TO SEE YOU DANCE LIKE GYPSY IN THE DESERT WITH CANDELABRAS IN HEAD LIKE "BALINESI"(I DON'T KNOW THIS WORD) IN THE DAYS OF PARTY I WANT TO SEE YOU DANCE LIKE THE DERVISHES TOURNES WHO TURN AROUND THE BACKBONES OR AT THE SOUND OF ANKLES OF KATAKALI AND RADIO TIRANA TRANSMIT BALKAN SONGS WHILE BULGARIAN DANCERS DANCE OVER THE FIRE COAL. I know italian language since I was a kid is the language of my father. But my italian cousins in Calabria ( a wonderful zone of South Italy, where is a wonderfull sea) say that I have a strong romanian accent also when I speak italian.eh eh. How are you Stefan? I am happy, because I have start to work in an italian bank here in Timisoara "Unicredit". I did a hard exam for be admit last may and I was accepted 2 weeks ago. Is wonderful to have this job, but is also very very hard, my director is italian, I speak italian with him. I am in the cash, it is a great responsability, and I am follow by tutor for these first weeks and is not very simple but we become friends. Last day came to do a check-negotiations a serb family, they were from Vrsac near here. Best regards my kameraten, Vlad

Guest		16-Mar-2007 14:05
siptaru glupi, ni vic ne umes da ispricas.... ko razume - shvatice... jadan si i glup, ali nisi za zaljenje jer si smrdljivi lazov i bolje bi ti bilo da cutis nego da lupetas jer od tvog kratkog kursa istorije balkana mi se povraca... slepce jedan, pokrij se i cuti, onda bar izgledas pametnije.

ILIR LIKA		16-Mar-2007 03:48
TO STEFAN SERB slusaj Chetnik pedere mamicu ti jebem HA HA HA HA KOSOVA IS INDEPPEDENT NOW

ILIR LIKA		16-Mar-2007 03:36
TO FILTHY SERBS albanian joke about serbs Three poor Serbs were driving their UDBA issue jeep, through the Kosova mountains they were minding their own business, drinking some firewater, shooting at the ghosts along the road. Poor Serbs, they came to this bridge, you see, and they were trapped by these three biiiig Albanians, with a pistola, between them Of course these awful biiiig Albanians had the upper hand because of the pistola and they won the day. Poor Serbs....they will...never...never...again get into such a trap...with biiiiig Albanians with a pistola. The End

ILIR LIKA		16-Mar-2007 03:28
to stefan ,ratko mladiq and rest of serbs Our thousands year old history(albanian history) and honor has been blotched by the horrific crimes committed in front of our eyes, by the extremist Serbs or commonly called Chetnicks. They came to Europe from Caucasus as a barbaric tribe knowing no personal hygine nor morals. They are actually not Slavs and resemble very much the Gypsies. Their skin and hair is dark. With years they became whiter due to the Slavic influence. Serbian religious preference is herecy. They are heretics worshipping a God-Serb plus a million other Sveti-Savo characters. Serbs think that God is Serb. Very recently the Chetnicks baceme hostile toward the European Slavic population inhabiting albanian land ILLYRIA. I think it is the moral obligation of every European to hurry and help their European brothers for if we not help each other no one is. We should all keep in mind what extremist Serbs have done in Kosova 15.000 killed 5.000 missing 1000 raped 1 million displaced redugees. in Bosnia 300,000 killed, 40,000 raped, 2 million displaced refugees. in Croatia i am not really sure but thousand killed and raped and many are missing. Many Serbs are now understanding that they have to either join Europe or stay in darkness created by themselves. It is a shame to be a Serb these days. I feel sorry toward those Serbs who are innocent. Their honor is gone because of those extremists Chetnicks.

Guest		12-Mar-2007 20:52
Ilir Lika, sta glumis mamicu ti jebem kad ceo svet za da je Albanija naj siromasnije i naj losija zemlja u Evropi! Vlad, I know you are fluent in Italian so could you please translate these song lyrics for me: E gira tutt'intorno la stanza mentre si danza, danza e gira tutta la stanza mentre si danza, danza Voglio vederti danzare come le zingare del deserto con candelabri in testa o come le balinesi nei giorni di festa. Voglio vederti danzare come i Dervisches Tourners che girano sulle spine dorsali o al suono di cavigliere del Katakali E gira tutt'intorno la stanza mentre si danza, danza e gira tutta la stanza mentre si danza, danza E Radio Tirana trasmette musiche balcaniche, mentre danzatori bulgari a piedi nudi sui braceri ardenti. E Radio Tirana trasmette musiche balcaniche, mentre danzatori bulgari a piedi nudi sui braceri ardenti E gira tutt'intorno la stanza mentre si danza, danza e gira tutta la stanza mentre si danza, danza It is from a eurodance song called Voglio Vederti Danzare by Prezioso. Big regards from London my kameraten. Stefan Zivela Evropa bez ALBANIJA hahaha

Vlad		12-Mar-2007 17:07
U BOJ KRENTE JUNCAI SVI KRENTE I NE ZALTE ZIVOT ZVOJ...... BOG CUVA RUMUNE I SRBE

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		10-Mar-2007 17:43
To ILIR LIKA Yes,I know you drive newest cars but those are stolen cars from western Europe,like everything else in your slutty country...Eveybody knows your country is the biggest narcotic export selling country and that's why you have protection in Europe...That doesn't mean EU don't hate youWe'd have killed you all,all of you ilir scum,but fucking USA helped you,you now thank god for that.But I believe in Christ In Holy Bible says''What is stolen-cursed it is'' ...You'll be butchered by every nation around!Girls from your country are fucked all over the world,for free.Men from every country enjoy fucking them.K O S O V O I S H E A R T O F S E R B I A !!! oh,yeah,thanx for building us roads and houses,we appreciate it.Expect to see us soon in them.Till than,suck my d..k I'd kill you scumbag,I'd fuck your girls but they are dirty,the same as you...You live like shit,poored-uranium is killing you,I'm shiting on your counhtry and your nation...Garbage,by the 2015.you won't exist,we''ll masacre you all,fucking Albanian DEATH TO ALBANIA,UCK I'M PISSING ON YOU<GO TO HELL DAMN NATION ORTHODOX SERBIA IS ETERNAL CP6UJA qO TOKUJA

ILIR LIKA		10-Mar-2007 06:28
to ratko mladiq whatever you say serbs are well known as the bigest loosers in every war and in every way of life all world know that you are fuck up now with economy and everything we albanian from kosova we live like a kings cz we have brain we know how to live if you go to PRISHTINA now you will see people very happy they work hard they are building houses in KOSOVA like hotels everybody got a new car the oldest car in KOSOVA you will see is year 2002 borders are open with albania you dont need a passport even id card nothing you can move free from kosova to albania so it means we got even a sea side we are building a motorway durres-prishtina is going to finish by 2008 so we can go to sea side for 2 and half hour from prishtina so one way or other way we are GREAT ALBANIA just not yet offically defenitly by 2015 we will be UNITED ALBANIA we are building relationship with montenegro we can go to montenegro only with id card on sea side or visiting other etc etc KOSOVA has got freedom now very small and old serb comunity in kosova are living together with gypsy people like sudanese in darfur they are very poor and dirty they are scare to go out of their houses they stay withinside graqanica sourronded by kfor forces same in north mitrovica even those small numbers of serbs are left in kosova soon they will go to we fuck their doughters and wife for a one euro they are starving for food and clothes they are house prison we ALBANIAN WE HAVE EVERYTHING FUCK SERB NATION SERBS ARE POOR DIRTY ETC ETC LONG LIVE GREAT ALBANIA death to serb nation

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		10-Mar-2007 00:16
To Ilir lika HA HA,dream about it,WC-cleaner...All of your compatriots are pussies...You don't have a courage to fight against us face to face.You proved it in 1999.We're braver,stronger,bigger country,we do everything by ourselves.We're ready to give our lives for our land,for our freedom,all to one!and you? all you can do is piss in your pants...Cowards Like i said it before-you'll be cleaned all away to the Ionic sea.We'll see who's bigger ORTHODOX SERBIA IS ETERNAL CP6uja qo Tokuja

ILIR LIKA		09-Mar-2007 04:39
to ratko mladiq ha ha ha smelly serb serbia is geting smaller and smaller soon vojvodina will go away death to serb nation

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		08-Mar-2007 23:03
Oh,shut up,Ilir,you make us laugh...You're in fact gypsies,all of your''great''nation...You live like shit,you don't have jobs,money,infrastructure in your shity country and you're now like civilized citizen of european albania..ha ha,you're probably cleaning toilettes in greek houses or something similar.Your tribe came from parts of Kavkaz and Tourkmenistan,and you had stolen our land,and nowadays you're doing the same.. You're burning our churches and monasteries but beside that you want to grab our land,our sacred Kosovo to product your children and learn them how to hate Serbs,and all orthodox people...Sorry,no can do! Assholes,you'll never live that long to see what will happen to Kosovo-IT'S SERBIAN FOREVER!!Fuck you and UN,NATO and everyone who supports your terrorism.Your language is product of consoliding English,French,Serbian,Romanian,Italian and so on...You have nothing that is yours,just what you've stolen.Vlad,you now this too.Don't let them/him fool you Serbs and Romanians brothers ORTHODOX EUROPE SRBIJA DO SIDNEJA

ILIR LIKA		07-Mar-2007 00:34
TO PENTRU TINE THNKS YOU ARE A REAL ROMANIAN WE ALBANIAN WE LIKE ROMANIAN PEOPLE OF COURSE NOT ROMANIAN GYPSY OR SERBROMANIAN LIKE VLAD I DON CARE WHAT VLAD SAY AGAINST ALBANIAN LONG LIVE ROMANIA AND ALBANIA DEATH TO SERB NATION

ILIR LIKA		07-Mar-2007 00:24
TO VLAD Dacian language The Dacian language was an Indo-European language spoken by the ancient Dacians. It may have been the first language to influence the Latin spoken in Dacia, but there is very little knowledge about it. About 300 words found only in Romanian (in all dialects) or with a cognate in the Albanian language may be inherited from Dacian, many of them being related to pastoral life (for example: balaur "dragon", brânzã "cheese", mal "shore"; see Eastern Romance substratum). Some linguists have asserted that Albanians are Dacians who were not Romanized, and migrated south.[19] A different view is that these non-Latin words (many with Albanian cognates) are not necessarily Dacian, but rather were brought into the territory that is modern Romania by Romance-speaking shepherds migrating north from Albania, Serbia, and northern Greece who became the Romanian people. However, the Eastern Romance substratum appears to have been a satem language, while the Paleo-Balkan languages spoken in Northern Greece (Ancient Macedonian language) and Albania (Illyrian language) were most likely centum languages. The general view is that Dacian was a satem language, as was Thracian.[19] Dacian was either close to the neighbouring Balto-Slavic branches of Indo-European[20], or a member of a distinct branch.[citation needed] PLS READ THIS WEBSITE en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_language REAL ALBANIAN DONT HATE REAL ROMANIAN FUCK SERB NATION

VLAD		06-Mar-2007 18:50
to Pentru Tine: daca esti roman si nu un albanez, raspundeme romaneste idiotule! Ar trebui se stii mai bine ca mine ca frati nostri sunt sarbi! Nu avem nimic de a face cu albanezi! Impreuna cu sarbi am luptat impotriva islamicilor si ungurilor! Sunt ortodoxi ca si noi si au avut o regina de origina romana! ALbanezi sunt niste jigodii! To all serbs: DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO PENTRU TINE! HE IS NOT A REAL ROMANIAN! WE ROMANIAN KNOW ALL VERY WELL THAT IN OUR HISTORY OUR BEST FRIENDS WERE YOU. WE FOUGHT TOGETHER AGAINST THE SAME ENEMIES AND TOGETHER WE WILL WIN ALSO THE NEXT FIGHTS OF FUTURE AGAINST ISLAMICS, AND AMERICANS, WHO WANT TO CONQUEST OUR EUROPE AND OUR WONDERFUL BALKAN REGION. WE ARE ORTODHOX AND IN A SERB CHURCH IS THE SAME ATMOSPEHERE OF A ROMANIAN CHURCH. WE HAVE MIXED FAMILIES HERE IN ROMANIAN BANAT TOGETHER SERBS AND THE LEADER OF RIGHT ROMANIAN RADICAL OF TIMISOARA IS SERB. IS NAME IS GORAN MRAKIC. WE SUPPORT SERB BROTHERS IN THEIR FIGHT AGAINST UCK AND AMERICANS!! SAMO SLOGA PRAVOSLAVINA SPASAVA!

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		06-Mar-2007 01:11
No,Pentru Tine,you're not Romanian,you're Albanian...You shitheads starded the war but soon we'll slaughter you all...We would have done it,but you cowards had to hide you're black-eagled dirty souls behind NATO and UN!You're probably Ilir-lika bastard.Vlad stop paying attention to his words,he's a scumbag...KOSOVO IS HEART OF SERBIA.Get away from our land,oh,yeah and from our site too ! Orthodoxy forever Srbija do Tokija

Guest		05-Mar-2007 23:32
search google for : Pentru Tine This albanian freak is insane :D:D He now writes with alleged Romanian names :s

Pentru Tine		05-Mar-2007 23:04
I am not Serbian. I am not Albanian.(in fact, I am romanian). I am not blind. i have seen what the serb cowards did to the kosovar people-- all the credible sources on planet earth, including Non-Nato sources like Swedish TV, Denmark TV, New Zealand TV, etc., etc., have reported that the Serb army and police have terrorized/brutalized/uprooted/looted/raped and murdered innocent albanian civilians. That's why i support Nato. I am glad i found your Website--- i hate serbs To Vlad shout your mouth you are not a romanian a real romanian hate serb people. serbs and hungarian to hell I like albanian and rest of balkan people but not serbs,nobody in romania like serbs dont lie Vlad best regards-------------Pentru Tine --

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		05-Mar-2007 13:28
You judged correct,Vlad.By the time you'll get used to Ilir's and Ante's attacks on Serbian culture,faith an relationships with other countries.I bet Ante doesn't have anything better to do than to write on serbian sites. Everybody,pay attention to their(Ante and Ilir's)national-hatred comments,but the fact is that,whatever they say,every country around Albania and Croatia hate these 2 small,irrelevant countries.One thing that is well-known-too many countries in the world,especially in Europe know that Croatia and Albania started their political and economic prosperity after WWII Hitler simply adored Croatia and it's "poglavnik"Ante Pavelic who killed hundreds of thousands of Serbs,Jews and non-Croatian citizens,but not only Pavelic was leading that kind of "war"but also many of his followers called ustashi .And has Croatia done anything to convict or even to critisize that crimes?No,nevertheless president of Croatia was camcorded singing ustashi songs and so on.In Croatia catholic church posthumely announced bishop Alojzije Stepinac as a saint,even known he was Pavelic's close cooperator.And after all this,historicaly approved facts,Ante have a gut to tell visitors of this site how Serbs hate everyone,including Romanians and so on...One more fact-nearly half of Croats are offsprings of catholilicized Serbs!Vlad,if you have opportunity,please watch croatian national television and pay attention to how many times they use word Kosovo.They always mention Serbia in a bad context,all cause of trying to lie their own nation taht they are more valuable than us which is like for fairy tales.Bla bla bla they have more money than we do,and that is the only thing they can glorify themselves in.Ante is saying to you Vlad-Serbia are pressuring you in Vojvodina(in it's part-Banat),but he probably doesn't know Vojvodina consists over 80 different national communities and in Vojvodina parliament exist spokesmen of many of those communities.Croats have territorial pretensions to Vojvodina,considering it their own territory(another fairy tale,isn't it,Ante?).I've never heard about incidents with Romanians,such as Romanians go home or likely.Anybody who is prepared to respect sovereignty and ter.integrity of Serbia and it's laws is welcome in this country. It's needless for me to say that Albanians are posessing over 90 % bordels and 80% narcotics control in Europe.Wouldn't be surprised to get informed that they sell their own daughters and wives to so-called white slavery."and black-eagled flags of yours shall burn,with smoke rising up to the sky,as our heroes free our sacred land,land you had mutilated"All those murders and ethnic cleaning you have been doing with NATO,Serbs will not forget.Very soon you'll be the history,remember this saying,Ilir...Hey,how long does it take for Albanian woman to throw the garbage?-9 months HAHAHA Stefan,keep it up Vlad,Orthodoxi unity is our weapon Ante,jebem ti majku ustasku Srbija do Tokija

Goca		05-Mar-2007 08:17
To Stefan&Vlad: That's the best weapon against enemies: unity. When "Ilir" lika sees that you're friends, he'll become green with envy and hopefully die of his own hatred! I'm so glad you're both clever and open-minded. Serbs&Romanians enjoy a great friendship and that's how it should always be. To "Ilir" Lika: ti qifsha ropt ta qifsha familjen ta qifsha nanen ne pidh

Vlad		04-Mar-2007 20:26
SVI SU SRBI RATKOVI VOJNICI BOG CUVA SERBE I RATKO!

Vlad		04-Mar-2007 11:01
Yes Stefan I agree with you that is normal that Serb church must served in serbian language. I don't see nothing wrong on it. All minorities must respect the soveregnity of the Steate where they live. Sieg heil my kameraten!

Guest		03-Mar-2007 18:39
Haha Ilir Lika "this website is for enemies of Yugoslavia" NO IT ISNT YOU IMBECILE IT IS FOR BELGRADE AND SERBIA AND FRIENDS OF SERBIA. Serbia doesn't have many friends left, but there are still some, more than can be said for Shiptari you've never had any hahahahaha

Guest		03-Mar-2007 18:36
Hey Vlad, I know all this thank you for confirming it further and I do not hate Romanians no Serbs hate Romanians just some feel betrayed because of the Kosovo war, those people are narrow minded and they think that the Government = the entire country. This is not the case in any country on Earth, always the Government can take some stupid decisions that are not supported by the majority of people, but since the Government has the power, they can do it anyway. My comment with Somali and Arabic in the Church of England was not meant as an insult to say that Vlach is like that, not at all! Rather Arabs and Somalis are ethnic minorities here in England, just like Romanians are an ethnic minority in Serbia, it was just meant to compare how it is OK for the Church of England to not conduct services in the language of an ethnic minority, but if the SERBIAN orthodox church refuses to do the same for an ethnic minority in Serbia it is a hate crime??? No this is not the case, and it was foolish for that stupid Crow or that shiptar to bring that up, because it is ridiculous to say that the SERBIAN church is wrong for not wanting to conduct church service in any language other than SERBIAN, when every Church in the World does the same. DEATH TO ISLAM LONG LIVE CHRISTIANITY AND ORTHODOXY. Sieg Heil!

Vlad		03-Mar-2007 14:10
I didn't understand the comparation with Somali or arabics, is not the case...

Vlad		02-Mar-2007 21:19
To Stefan, I thank you again for your friendership. You know that I like Serbia too, and I have never heard too about incidents between us. I must say you a thing that I feel in my heart: I understand that serb peoples was very angry against us for the facts of 1999. Yes our governaments committed a crime to allowed our bases to SHIT AMERICANS for bomb you who are our brothers. We have never in common with americans, they are from another continent, from the opposite side of the world, after the Atlantic ocean, while you serbs are together us by centuries and we were many timeas ally against Turks, Austrians and Hungarian Reign. We have the same religion. I also was very sad to see that our governments at that time choosed to help NATO. BUT OUR GOVERNMENT IS A THING AND OUR PEOPLE IS ANOTHER! We were very friends on a time I know that is a serb word that SERBS HAVE 3 FRIENDS GOD, MOUNTAINS AND ROMANIA, this was said to me by a my serb friend (his name is Milos). After the end of Ceausescu's regime, many serbs come to us for celebrate our freedom together us. All this historical friendership finished in 1999 and I was very sad for it. The fault was of our governament of that time, but we romanians were angry for that decision! THINK ALSO THAT IN SERBIA LIVE A LOT OF ROMANIANS and how we can support that USA to bomb a SISTER COUNTRY where are also romanians? You serbs must understand that we didn't support USA! Only our governments of Constantinescu suport it but that decision was also one of the causes of the lost of that governments at the following elections. Our friendership was very strong a time, I am sincerely very sorry that now it is finished. Many serbs believe that we were the traitors who help USA to kill them. But THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE! We are 23 millions and our governments took a decision in few politics leaders who were very criticized for tha decision. Our greater nationalist organization NOUADREAPTA has in Timisoara (my town) a guy who is from serbs minority of Romanian Banat, his name is GORAN MRAKIC and is a strong ROMANIAN NATIONALIST! Last years our nationalist organization promoved a campaign called "KOSOVO PAMANT SARBESC, EUROPA CONTINENT CRESTIN" who means "KOSOVO SERB LAND, EUROPE CHRISTIAN CONTINENT". This show you that we are the same friends that you had in the past! And I hope that your HATE against us will finish soon when you see that what happened in 1999 is not our fault but only fault of our government. I believe we are two proud christian ortodhox countries, with many things in common, we won many wars together against muslims and west arrogance. I believe we can come back friends like in a time. This is the hope of true romanians. Stefan, come here to us when you want and you can see with your eyes, that we are your friends. You can see in OUR ROMANIAN MONASTERIES the WONDERFUL SPIRITUALITY that you feel in SERB ORTHODOX MONASTERIES, and you can see the same BALKAN PROUD SPIRIT. Regards my brother. Sieg heil! SAMO SLOGA PRAVOSLAVINA SPASAVA!

ILIR LIKA		02-Mar-2007 06:24
to vlad from stefan serb Serbs do not hate Romanians at all, I am a Serb and I like Romanians you see, so does everyone I know who is Serbian, you are our neighbours and we have never fought you so we have no reason to be hostile towards each other. Although I very much resent the fact that Romania allowed America to use its airbases to bomb Serbia in 1999 because that is very sad. Serbia is Orthodox and so is Romania, Kosovo WAS a stronghold of Orthodoxy in Europe with many hundreds of beautiful monasteries there, and the fact that Romania allowed America to bomb Serbia HA HA HA hey vlad go to romanin web pls you dont belong this website is for enemis of yugoslavi not romanin gypsi

ILIR LIKA		02-Mar-2007 06:18
to vlad from stefan serb read it ha ha ha Also, one of them said that the Serbian Orthodox Church refused to conduct services in Vlach......well for fucks sake it is the SERBIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH so services must be conducted in Serbian that is simple, you don't have Church of England services conducted in Somali or Arabic, what the fuck?? you see mr vlad how serbs like you ha ha wash your eye with cold water wake up mr vlad to stefan majku ti jebem ha ha ha

Guest		28-Feb-2007 19:15
Vlad, Brother do not listen to these pricks Serbs do not hate Romanians at all, neither Hungarians. There are lots of Hungarians in Vojvodina, almost 30% is Hungarians so of course there are some incidents where idiots from both nationalities (Serbs and Magyars) clash just for the sake of it. But these websites given are all written by BIASED sources, mainly Hungarian nationalist groups who, like the KLA in Kosovo, want to take Vojvodina from Serbia and make it Hungarians because some of their people are there. So a lot of the shit they write is made up crap and the language they use is deliberately used in order to evoke hate and anger from their readers, particularly from Hungarians, so they can gain support for their ridiculous claim/cause. Also, one of them said that the Serbian Orthodox Church refused to conduct services in Vlach......well for fucks sake it is the SERBIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH so services must be conducted in Serbian that is simple, you don't have Church of England services conducted in Somali or Arabic, what the fuck?? Serbs do not hate Romanians at all, I am a Serb and I like Romanians you see, so does everyone I know who is Serbian, you are our neighbours and we have never fought you so we have no reason to be hostile towards each other. Although I very much resent the fact that Romania allowed America to use its airbases to bomb Serbia in 1999 because that is very sad. Serbia is Orthodox and so is Romania, Kosovo WAS a stronghold of Orthodoxy in Europe with many hundreds of beautiful monasteries there, and the fact that Romania allowed America to bomb Serbia who were protecting these monasteries so that Shiptars could destroy them saddens me deeply. But to my understanding this was NOT supported by the Romanian PEOPLE, rather just the Romanian Government allowed it in order to strengthen their bids for NATO and EU membership, so I guess it is not a big deal. I am glad that during the bombing many Romanian people went to protest against it and show support for Serbia protecting its heart of Kosovo. Regards my friend, sieg heil kameraten Stefan

Guest		28-Feb-2007 18:54
Haha this Albanian just keeps on barking he has to be PUT DOWN! Shut up please you look like an idiot, I am not the one saying how amazing Serbia is because it is not, it is shit in some aspects and in some aspects it is the best place in the World. But you my friend (in fact you are not my friend) are a pure imbecile. All you ever do is bark about how great Albania is, if that is so why do you not return? Albania is a miserable place which remains impoverished even more than 60 years since its last war. It is the Afghanistan of Europe everybody knows this because it is a fact that Albania is by far the poorest, most primitive and least developed country of Europe. You guys havent really had a proper war or battle for about a century because you were on the Germans' side in both World Wars so they don't count as wars because you didn't fight. Please be realistic man, I mean everybody is an individual it is true but some nations have a higher percentage of a certain type of individual than others. Such as Germans are World renowned as being a strong-willed, hard-working people who are very developed mentally. Slovenes are known as a strong workers people not a warrior people. Serbs are known as enormous people, physically the biggest in the World but most are meatheads only, that is why we are fucked now. But I mean Albanians are not known for anything but backwardsness and inferiority over the remaining peoples of Europe. The only thing I think which is good about Albanians is the fact that they make excellent pastry cakes, and because I am a normal, sain person I can admitt this as a quality of your people, because I am not just filled with idiotic hate, and my mind does contain enough rationale to see what is good and bad from every race. You guys want a Greater Albania.....may I ask; why? To further spread your misery? Don't you see how much better shape Kosovo was in before the Kosovo war huh? You call what you have now freedom? Freedom from what when you guys are starving now, all working twice as hard as before to feed families. Are you willing to pay all that price just to put an Albanian flag in Pristina? Whatever, if that is true then you really are idiots. Also....when you guys have had no wars since 1945, why are there more Albanians outside of Albania than IN Albania, huh? Why do you all run from what you 'so dearly love'? I'm done haha, I bet you will not answer any of these questions in your reply, you will just insult as usual. Stefan

ILIR LIKA		27-Feb-2007 16:14
to goca ti qifsha ropt ta qifsha familjen ta qifsha nanen ne pidh hey goca what is ur father than gypsy yes go and get married to black people than i mean monkey cz ur all little bit mix with everybody exept albanian ha ha albanian are poor arian race we hate other race exept white race but we hate serbs death to serb nation long live GREAT ALBANIA PROUD TO BE ALBANIAN

Goca		27-Feb-2007 07:53
Dan, I couldn't have put it better myself; you're speaking my mind, and all of the normal people, I hope. I come from a mixed marriage myself, and maybe the only nation I don't have in my genealogy is Albanian, but I have all the rest from ex-YU. I'm in touch with all of my parts and value them equally. I was brought up to believe in equality. It's the sick people that inspire hatred among nations. And they usually have some defect. The advice is also right: get out more!

Dan		26-Feb-2007 00:58
I am all three of the ethnics that you mentioned, Russian, German, and American, I consider myself caucasion and was born in America, as was my mother, I also have a boss whom is African-American, who is married to a white person from Denmark. A person is a person no matter what color or religion they are. There are good and bad people in all color, religion and shapes. You need to get out more.

Guest		24-Feb-2007 16:45
Ante are you older than 16??

Ante		24-Feb-2007 15:06
to Vlad, I know these facts by journals and everyone know them except you. You like serbs because you belive that in serbian banat is the same harmony like in romanian banat. You are a poor baby you are a illused you belive also in Santa Klaus, if you blive that in serb Banat serbs and romanians live in harmony. I remember you that this maybe possible in romanian Banat but in Serbia not. IN Vojvodina for example a group of chetniks killed a romanian family two years ago. Is a your problema if you illuse yourself but I suggest you again to go in Serbia and to see by yourself HOW SERBS LOVE YOU

Guest		24-Feb-2007 04:02
OMG ILIR LIKA AND ANTE ARE THE SAME PERSON, BRING A PSYCHIATRIST!!!

Vlad		23-Feb-2007 20:26
ILIR I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BANANA BUT YOU MOTHER KNOW VERY WELL!! SHE IS A BANANA'S LOVER IH IH IH IH IH IH ANTE, YOU GIVE SOME NEWS THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE HAVE YOU RED EXACTLY THESE FACTS?

ILIR LIKA		23-Feb-2007 05:35
to ANTE wharever you say ,i dont care end of the day i hate serbs more than croats. even croats are pice of shit like rest of slavic people ,but compare to serbs are better off for us albanian. you hate albanian because they are muslim ha ha ha ha yes i am a muslim is my faith i belive at this religion. like you croats belive in catholic religion. i dont care what religion you are muslim,catholics,orthodox ,ateist,etc etc to me is important to be a human not a animal like serb or black people the most important to me is to be a nationalist and proud for our own country i like my nation like you mr ANTE like your croation nation. i know even croats dont like albanian who give a shit we dont like croats to i never felt sorry what serbs did to you but i was happy what ustashi did to serbs so end of the day albanian people dont care about croats, macedonian,slovenian,cz you all are pice of shit for albanian but one thing we got in common we hate serbs and we have same enemy like RUSSIAN HATE GERMAN PEOPLE AMERICAN HATE GERMAN PEOPLE american hate russian russian hate american for those two nation enemy was and it is german nation so is same for albanian and croats they have same enemy but dont like each other thanks to god you are not next to albanian border cz we will have war with you to we know who are croats i know croats hate albanian i dont give a shit end of the day we got problems to sort out with serb pigs i hate serb nation more than any other nation on the earth our time is coming KOSOVA BY END OF THE MARCH WILL BE INDEPEDENT COUNTRY to VLAD you pice of shit have you read it what serbs are doing to romanians in serbia you filthy romanian until yesterday romanian people did not know what is banana or coca cola and you telling me tis and that and thisi and this fuck off you smelly ROMAnian LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA DEATH TO SERB NATION

Ante		22-Feb-2007 17:31
Ilir, in anycase you albanians are the worst of the world. You are muslim and we have not in common with you.

Ante		22-Feb-2007 17:29
Now my dear illused Vlad, after you have red this page from Ilir Lika, I hope you open your eyes and know how are really the relations between serbs and romanians in Serbia. Is not the same of the situation in Romania where you treat them well. THEY HATE YOU

ILIR LIKA		22-Feb-2007 06:55
TO CHETNIKS AND MR VLAD ESPECIALLY TO VLAD THE ONLY ROMANIAN I EVER HEARD SUPPORT SERBS LOOK AT THAT MOTHER FUCKER SERBS SHOULD BE WIPE OUT OF THE EARTH WE WOULD WIPE THEM DONT WORRY LOOK AT THIS WEBSITE www.hhrf.org/hhrf/en/vojvodinareport-mar-2005.htm#ii

ILIR LIKA		22-Feb-2007 06:39
TO CHETNIKS AND VLAD www.americanhungarianfederation.org/docs/Koszorus_Vojvodina_OCT_2004.pdf READ THAT TO

ILIR LIKA		22-Feb-2007 06:22
to shity romanians and chetniks this i found one of the website in internet IN SERBIA There were no reports of violence or harassment against ethnic Hungarians in Vojvodina during the year. However, on September 27, graves were desecrated in a predominantly Hungarian Catholic cemetery (see Section 2.c.). Some members of the Vlach community in Bor complained about the Serbian Orthodox Church's refusal to conduct religious services in the Vlach language rather than in Serbian THIS IS THE WEBSITE www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2003/27874.htm YOU SHITY ROMANIAN READ IT

Guest		20-Feb-2007 08:03
Ante, I realize you are a pitiful creep filled with hatred, cos that's what the majority of Croats really are. But you're mistaken about Serbs: they don't HATE other people as such, they just react to injustice. EVERYBODY knows what atrocities you did to Serbs, killing the unborn babies in WWII, and only monsters like you could do that. The nazis were a lesser evil than you, you sick bastard! Thank God that you're still alive, cos if others didn't help you, we would've wiped you off our land in an afternoon! Go get a life and stop coming here! And don't poison Vlad; he doesn't need YOU to tell him what's right or wrong. Romanians and Serbs share the same religion, among other things. Serbs don't hate Romanians or vice versa as you are trying to prove. Go hate whoever you want, leave us alone!

Petar		20-Feb-2007 01:08
Lol ante you make me laugh go find something to do, find a girlfriend or whatever you like, you are right about that we dislike albanians and croatians, but with Hungarians and especially Romanians thats not the case.. you have many things in common with albanians, one thing is that you are being hated by all of your neighbors, even Slovenia, started to hate you, cuz they got to know your real mentality... and I dont need to write more on that topic, if somebody finds any link on the internet about Serb people doing anything bad to Romanians or vice versa post it here.. Ante i don't like croatians and thats why i dont visit croatian galleries, I think thats a normal thing to do.. You come here cuz of pure jealousy.. jebo ti pas mater hrvatsku

Ante		19-Feb-2007 16:52
Petar, everyone know that I have right. In Vojvodina serb chetniks attack romanians in a traditional celebrations and forced many of them to go in Romania. I know that you hate us but I can guarantee you that we also have the same sentiment for you, and we both know that your historical enemy are: CROATS, ALBANIANS, HUNGARIANS AND ROMANIANS. Only Vlad who is a poor illuse belive that you are friends. This is a stupid ridicule thing, and I belive Vlad is a romanian with serb origin, because a real romanian know well that you are enemy. You killed them in Iron Doors for realize a monoethnic Banat. After WW2 many romanians were forced to go away, and also now the few romanians who remain in Serbia are forced to live in enclaves and to be controlled dayly. This is a typycal serb attitude. We known well how answer you. You try in the past to do the same also to us but you lost. Now for romanians is only 2 chances: or to go in Romania or to be killed by serbs. I am sure that you will start soon against them the same thing that you try to do against us and other minorities. ZIVILA HRVATSKA

Petar		19-Feb-2007 01:05
Ante, you are making a mistake, you croats are only being hated in Vojvodina, dont make up things like "romanians go home" its rediculous:) We never had any serious issue throught history with romanians, never had wars, we were always at the same side, and thats your problem CROAT, everyone around your country hates you, from Slovenia, Bosnia, Serbia, only Hungarians are neutral about you and that's becouse you served them a milenium, you cleaned those hungarian horses and worked at hungarian fields.. Romanian and Serbian people will always be friends and will live in harmony next to another, unlike you croatians, everyday you speak about Serbia, and Serbians, you watch our tv channels , simply, you are jealous, and you live in a very boring country with peasant thinking people all over it, and look at you, you came into an old Pbase Belgrade gallery and spam some stupidities, its your lack of brain and envy that makes you come here...

Ante		18-Feb-2007 18:23
For Vlad, sincerely I can't understand how you can like so much serbs. You are totally crazy! Serbs hate you very much, you are closed in the stupid idea that serbs are your historical friends. This is ridicule. You have never been in Vojvodina or in the serbian Banat to see how serbs consider you romanians. In thats towns romanians are hated and in their houses is written ROMANIAN GO HOME! They can't speak their language. Go to Serbia to see how serbs love you. Please go there, to see by your eyes how you live in a stupid illusion!! You bleive that if you go there serbs will consider you a friend or a brother but you will see that they will consider you an enemy. They will hate you like all your brothers who live there and are submit by serb arrogance. YOu will see how romanians are forced to live under a submission. You will see serbs insult and offend you. Serbs hate you!!! They consider you an historical enemy not an historical brother like you belive in your stupid illusion! Please tell me where and who said you this stupid thing. This is the first time that I hear the romanians and serbs are historical friends. Everyone know the opposite. My suggestion for you to cancel this your illusion is to come in Serbia in romanian towns and to see by your eyes how they live there. You will see that are not mixed marriages, not serbs who live together romanians, not serbs who have romanian friends. Serbs hate all their neighborders! Remember it! They live in a specify isolated world where they consider their neighborders a danger and an enemy. Maybe in Romania serbs are considered well because you romanians are not bad like serbs. Maybe in Timisoara romanians and serbs live in harmony, but in Serbia I can guarantee you that is not. SRBI CIGANI!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ZIVILA HRVATSKA ZA DOM SPREMNI

tt		16-Feb-2007 16:03
www.illyriaentertainment.com/scanderbeg.htm LOL OMG I never so anything so pathetic like this, illyria entertainment, llooollzzz They put some people in front of cameras whose English is first language, with some cheap video effects, lol albanians you are pathetic...... Please where can I find a link 4 the full movie, I wanna laugh, shiptars made a movie :::::PATHETIC::::: And please albanians, you could never and will compare with Romanians or any other people in Europe, as whores are conserned, 95% whores in Europe are from Albania, and thats a FACT! You sell your own women... You should be a shame cuz you are albanian, not proud!

Ratko Mladic-Serbian hero		13-Feb-2007 00:44
haha you albanian piece of shit(i think this is the biggest compliment you'll ever get)are so funny... ,,albania shall live forever...bla bla'' 20 years ago you didn't even know how to wipe your black-eagled,stinky asses and now you're like united against serbs...your wives and daughters are fucking all over the world motherfuckers.when we unite with Macedonians and Greeks off you go to the Ionic sea to hang your stupid flag on the balls of the wale....za tebe ante sto te jebem pored kante,veliki polni organ da ga cuclas kad ti se otope lilihipi...osecam da si ti iskompleksiran sto su ti cigani preplavili domovinu...jebu vas oni,jebemo vas mi,a tek cemo da vas jebemo zajedno svi...Svi ste vi pomalo Srbi he he he...u Hrvatskoj 4 miliona cigana,jel moguce? Moguce! Ñâè Çà¼åäíî çà ìà¼êó Ñðáè¼ó!

Guest		09-Feb-2007 21:05
Ante, nemoj da seres nema ni blizu 800,000 cigani u Srbiji, mozda ima naj vise oko 300,000 odakle su ti statistike? Ako su Srbi cigani onda imate i Vi 200,000 cigani u Hrvatskoj hahahahaha Pozdrav iz Londona JUGOSLOVENSKA IZDAJICA

Vlad		09-Feb-2007 11:50
TO ILIR LIKA: IN ITALY IS VERY KNOWN THAT ALBANIAN GIRLS ARE SOLD BY THEIR PARENTS FOR A TV OR A RADIO TO MAPHIA BOSS OF VALONA-VLORE OR DURRES. ALBANIAN GIRLS ARE UGLY BECAUSE YOUR RACE IS VERY UGLY: TICKSET, FETID, SQUARE HEAD, LARGE MOUTH, DIRTY. BUT THEY ARE THE GREATEST AND MOST FAMOUS PROSTITUTES OF THE WORLD. IS INCREDIBLE THAT ALSO TODAY EXIST CASE LIKE FAMILIES WHO SELL THEIR GIRLS FOR A TV. THIS SHIT THING IS POSSIBLE ONLY IN ALBANIA, WHERE PEOPLES HAVE SEX ON THE ROADS IN FRONT OF THE EYES OF EVERYBODY, WHERE DON'T EXIST ELECRTICAL LIGHT, WHERE DON'T EXIST WATER (THEREFORE YOU ARE SO DIRTY AND FETID), WHERE STILL TODAY THE MOST FAVOURITE LAW IS KANUN, WHERE PEOPLE TAKE EACH DAY THE SHIP TO EMIGRE IN ITALY. THIS IS ALBANIA A GREAT SHIT AND THESE ARE YOU ALBANIANS A SHIT PEOPLE, WHO IS HATED BY EVERYBODY, SERBS HATE YOU, ITALIANS HATE YOU, MAKEDONIANS HATE YOU, GREEKS HATE YOU, GERMANS HATE YOU ETC... IN ITALY IN "SALANDRA" A TOWN OF SOUTH, 500 PEOPLE DID AN URBAN WAR FOR CATCH ALBANIANS WHO ARE WELL KNOWN ONLY FOR DRUGS, MURDERS AND PROSTITUTIONS. YOU MUST WASH YOUR MOUTH BEFORE TO SPEAK ABOUT TRANSYLVANIA, IT IS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL LANDS OF EUROPE, THERE IS A CIVILIZATION THA TYOU ALBANIANS CAN ONLY DREAM. IN TRANSYLVANIA WE HAVE WONDERFULL MEDIEVAL TOWNS WITH SAXON AND AUSTRO-HUNGARICAN ARCHITETURE, LIKE BRASOV, SIGHISOARA, MEDIAS, CLUJ-NAPOCA, SFANTU GHEORGHE, SIBIU( WHO IS THE ACTUAL EUROPEAN CAPITOL OF CULTURE) SEE THE WEB SITE www.sibiu.ro FOR UNDERSTAND. IN TRANSYLVANIA ROMANIANS, HUNGARIANS AND GERMANS LIVED TOGETHER IN PEACE BY 10 YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THERE MIXED FAMILIES AND IN SOME TOWNS LIKE SIBIU AND MEDIAS THE MAYORS ARE GERMANS THEIR NAMES ARE KLAUS JOHANNIS (MAYOR OF SIBIU) AND DANIEL THELMANN (MAYOR OF MEDIAS). IN TRANSYLVANIA WE HAVE WONDERFULL TURISTIC LANDSCAPES WHERE COME EACH HOLYDAYS MANY MANY WEST TURISTS AND IT IS THE MITTLE-EUROPEAN HEARTH OF ROMANIA. ROMANIA IS WONDERFULL BECAUSE HAS TWO GREAT FARMS: A MITTLE-EUROPEAN FARM IN TRANSYLVANIA AND BANAT WITH GERMAN AND AUSTRO-HUNGARICAN ARCHITETURE AND A BALKAN FARM IN WALACHIA WHERE WE HAVE A PARTICULAR ARCHITETONIC STYLE CALLED "BRANCOVENESC". BUCHAREST HAS 2MILLIONS INHABITANTS, IT IS KNOWN LIKE THE "LITTLE PARIS" AND IN ITS OLD CENTER YOU CAN SEE THE BAROQUE "UNIVERSITY SQUARE", THE ROYAL PALACE, COTROCENI PALACE, MOGOSOAIA PALACE, THE BEAUTIFULL "BOULEVARD CAROLL" WHO IS FULL OF LUXUOUS SHOPS AND OLD BUILDINGS, THE WONDERFULL PARKS LIKE "CISMIGIU" AND "HERESTRAU", THE ROMANIAN ATHENEUM, "KOGALNICEANU SQUARE" WHO IS ALSO FULL OF BAROQUE BUILDINGS. IN BUCHAREST WE HAVE SUBWAY, WE HAVE THE SECOND GREATEST BUILDING OF THE WORLD WHO IS OUR PARLIAMTENT WHO HAS 10000 ROOMS. TIRANA IS A SHIT, IT IS A LITTLE SHIT TOWN WHERE PEOPLE WALK WITH DONKEY AND ALL IS LIKE AFRICA. BYE BYE MY SHIT ALBANIAN

Guest		09-Feb-2007 10:07
Belgrade is Heaven for you - you NEVER have had nor will EVER have a city like this! Feast your ugly eyes on our beauty, you morons! You are just the person to talk to somebody about hygiene, you stinking Squiptar! ALL of my friends from all over the world complain when they come back from your stinking places - they say that the smell is unbearable! Romanian people have a long tradition and their right place in Europe, and so do the Serbs. YOU are the only people in the world whose civilization level is still in the Middle ages, and I pity you. Stop coming to this site and stop polluting the atmosphere of normal people while we're enjoying wonderful photos of our beloved city, and btw, YOUR CAPITAL - BELGRADE!

MARTIN ELEZ ALIA		09-Feb-2007 02:40
TO CHETNIKS www.illyriaentertainment.com/scanderbeg.htm look at that pls send than your coments

ILIR LIKA		09-Feb-2007 02:25
TO CHETNIKS you should learn that cz in 20-40 years all serbs the one will be alive will speak albanian Albanian Anthem Pledge to the Flag United around the flag With one desire and one goal Let us pledge our word of honor To fight for our salvation Only he who is a born traitor Averts from the struggle He who is brave is not daunted But falls - a martyr to the cause With arms in hand we shall remain To guard our fatherland round about Our rights we will not bequeath Enemies have no place here For the Lord Himself has said That nations vanish from the earth But Albania shall live on Because for her, it is for her that we fight

ILIR LIKA		09-Feb-2007 00:38
TO VLAD The slur means "stinky Romanian" and it originates in Transylvania where Romanians and Hungarians live together. Hungarians call Romanians this way, because most Romanians are primitive peasents lacking basic hygiene

ILIR LIKA		09-Feb-2007 00:25
TO VLAD In Bucharest, you can buy a young girl for 100 euros. I mean buy them as in you own them forever or until you sell them to someone else. Most of them are sold by their parents in all romania when they are little children. As soon as they’re bought, the owner brands them. This is normally a tattoo of his name. one of my friend recently went to Bucharest to find out what a fuck is going on in romania with these girls. One of the boatload of extremely awful things about this situation is that the girls have internalized their circumstances. This is their life, and they don’t lament it. It’s fucking heartbreaking. fuck all romanian

ILIR LIKA		08-Feb-2007 23:59
TO CHETNIKS remember when the bombs fell. hehheheheheh. Oh that shit was funny. You slavic cowards didnt last long. its harder to fight UQK and AMERICAN ARMY and nato than a bunch of civililians ha. oh what loosers you are. wake up and smell the coffee its over. serbia is a shit now ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

ILIR LIKA		08-Feb-2007 23:54
TO CHETNIKS I'm asking the U.S., Nato, and other officials to bomb Serbia again, and this time a little harder than last time. Becuase the last invasion with air-strikes in 1999, wasn't enough, and the misson didn't get accomplished, right there and then. Please make Belgrade look like Afganistan. This is for the benefit of the whole Balkan Region, and to revenge the serbs for all the bloodshed, civil unrest, and all the massacres they've cuased in the Balkans. You have no idea how much peace there will be in the Balkan States, once those human-eaters are out of sight. There are 5 things in life that you can't get them back: The stone you have thrown The word you have said The chance you have abandoned The time you have spent The love you have lost Peace will be only when serbs are out from the earth long live united ALBANIA hey zemo razumes majku ti jebem to stefen serb rrnoft shqypnia e madhe

Ante		08-Feb-2007 22:24
SRBI=CIGANI IS SO FUNNY TO SEE THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY COUNTRY WHO HAVE TWO GYPSY DEPUTIES IN PARLIAMENT. IS INCREDIBLE 800000 GYPSY IN A COUNTRY OF 10MILLIONS INHABITANTS. 8% OF SERBS ARE GYPSY IS INCREDIBLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! CIGANI CIGANI CIGANI CIGANI CIGANI CIGANI CIGANI CIGANI CIGANI CIGANI CIGANI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MI SVOJU HRVATSKU IMAMO, VI SVOJE VISE NEMATE NISTA. ZBOT CETE SE SVI U BEOGRADSKI PASALUK.

Guest		08-Feb-2007 17:45
Ej Shiptare, smiri se malo bre magarcina jedna. It is true that your level of English is extremely poor and I would definately put my French above your English, and you LIVE in England man. But oh well I didn't expect anything better from a Shiptar even if he was born in the UK his English would be appalling. Boga mi nisam nista odcekivao od Siptara, imali bar jednog Shiptara da zna kako da cita i da pise? Bye bye Siptare.

Guest		08-Feb-2007 17:14
po, tout le monde savoir que les Serbes ont le premieres gens au Kosovo, mais les Albanies est trop stupide et seulement ils ont declaront que ils ont le premieres gens au Kosovo et que Kosovo est leurs. L'Amerique est donne la Kosovo car ils deteste les Serbes et l'intention de NATO est seulement detruire la Serbie!! J'adore le France, et desole pour mon mauvais Francais mais j'habite en Angleterre et j'ai apprendre le Francais dans le college seulement, et les education ici est affreux! A bientot et bien amicalement de Londres. Stefan

po		08-Feb-2007 10:08
sous les églises serbes au Kosovo, il n'y a pas de ruines de quelqonque église catholique, c'est de la pure propagande!

ILIR LIKA		08-Feb-2007 00:04
DEATH TO SERBIA WE WILL FUCK BLOW UP ALL YOUR MONASTIRES SOON IN COMING YEARS THEY WILL BE TRANSFORME TO ALBANIAN OLD CATHOLIC CHURCHES CZ THEY WERE ALBANIN CHURCHES BUT FUCKING NJEMANJA TRANSFORMED THEM TO MONASTIRES YOU WONT SEE SERB CHURCHES IN KOSOVA IN 3-5 YEARS REMEMBER THAT DEATH TO SERB NATION ALL SERB WOMEN WILL COME TO WORK AS PROSTITUTE CLEANERS ETC IN COMING YEARS IN GRAT ALBANIA THEY WILL SUCK ALBANIAN COCK TELL TO ALL SERB SISTERS COME TO ALBANIAN THEY GOT HUGE COCK AS THEY KNOW DEATH TO SERBIA

ILIR LIKA		07-Feb-2007 23:57
TO GUEST HA HA YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!!!!!! YOU DO FUCKING UNDERSTAND VERY WELL BUT NO COMENTS OF COURSE NO COMENTS CZ ALL YOU SERB PIGS ARE SHOCK AND YOU DONT BELIVE KOSOVA IS GONE OI WAKE UP KOSOVA IS GONE FOREVER FROM SERBIA YOU FILTHY SERB NOBODY HAS GOT A COMENT 10 YEARS AGO IF YOU SAID TO ANY SERB KOSOVA WILL GO YOU FUCKING SERBS WILL SAY WE WILL GIVE A LIFE BUT NOT KOSOVA HA HA FUCK OFF ALL YOU SERB MOTHER FUCKER UNITED ALBANIA IN 5-10 YEARS GREAT ALBANIA REMEMBER THAT

Guest		07-Feb-2007 18:53
Ej Konjine iza Konjic, zar nije istina da neznas ni da pricas ni da citas na (Srpsko-)Hrvatskom? Jaooooo, jako mi je zao brate sto si nepismen ali jebiga hahahahhaha Pozdrav iz Londona Stefan CCCC

Guest		07-Feb-2007 09:51
To the Siptar: try a basic English course, because your comments are so pitiful and pathetic that I cannot read them - they are incomprehensible! (For this word, consult your dictionary.) When/If you manage to learn anything, come back and discuss things in the minimum required level of language. Until then, no comment on your posts because I can't read them, as I'm sure nobody else can. So, you're wasting your time; get a life!

ILIR LIKA		06-Feb-2007 15:14
TO SERB(CHETNIKS) I DONT UNDERST ANTE WHEN HE SAY SERBIA 9% OF POPULATION IN SERBIA ARE GYPSI MR ANTE SERBS ARE THEMSELF GYPSY DONT YOU KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT EVEN SLAVIC BUT OF COURSE THEY COME FROM SLAVIC COUNTRY AND THEY MIX WITH SLAVIC PEOPLE LITTLE BIT BUT ORIGINALY ARE POOR GYPSY FROM URAL SEA THEN THEY MOVED TO RUSSIA I MEAN UKRAIN THEN IN CARAVAN THEY MOVED TO BALKAN WE ILLYRIAN WE DID GIVE TO THEM THE HOSPITALITY THE BIGEST MISTAKE WE MADE ON HISTORY WE GIVE HOSPITALITY TO SERB I MEAN TO GYPSY I WISH WILL BE SOON ONE MORE ANDRIJA ARTUKOVICH I LIKE USTASHE JUST CZ THEY CUT SERB PEOPLE LIKE PIGS NOBODY IN EUROPE LIKE SERB PEOPLE ANY MORE CZ THEY KNOW FACTS WHO ARE SERBS AND WHERE THEY COME FROM AND EUROPE THEY KNOW SERBS ARE ANCIENT OF GYPSI TRIBE EVEN HIMLER SS SAID AS LONG AS SERB PEOPLE , JEW PEOPLE ,BLACK PEOPLE, AND GYPSY OTHER TRIBE I MEAN TRAVELLER THEY EXSIST ON EUROPE AND EARTH WILL NEVER BE A PEACE HE SAID WE SHOULD WIPE THEM OUT OF EARTH AND OF COURSE ARABS THEY COME ON SAME TERM THEY SHOULD BE WIPE OUT OF EARTH TO DONT WORRY WE GOT A LOT JOB TO DO IN EUROPE TO CLEAR THIS SHITY RACE JUST WAIT FOR A BIT WHEN KOSOVA WILL BE UNITED ALBANIA ANYWAY KOSOVA IN MARCH IS GOING TO BE DECLARED BY UN COUNCIL AS INDEPEDENT AHTISARI ALREADY TOLD US WE WON AGAINST SERBS WE GOT KOSOVA BACK TO ALBANIAN HAND SO OFFICALY WE ARE INDEPEDENT BUT WE JUST WAITING FOR UN COUNCIL TO DECLARE ON MARCH AND IN 5-10 YEARS WE WILL BE UNITED ALBANIAN THAQN 10-15 YEARS SERBIA WILL NOT EXSISIT IN BALKAN CZ WE ARE MOR ALBANIAN IN BALKAN THAN SERBS ALL TOGETHER AROUND 7 MILLION IN BALKAN AND IN TURKEY AROUND 5 MILLION AND IN EUROPE AROUND 1MILLION IN USA 1 MILLION SO ALL TOGETHER TOTAL 14-15 MILLION ALBANIAN IN THE EARTH HALF OF DOZEN WILL COME BACK TO THEIR MOTHER LAND IN COMING YEARS LIKE JEW GONE BACK TO ISRAEL DEATH TO SERB NATION

Ante		05-Feb-2007 19:27
SRBI=CIGANI RAJKO DJURIC AND SAJIN SRDZAN LEADER OF THE TWO GYPSY PARTY OF SERBIA WERE ELECTED AND NOW SERB PARLIAMENT IS THE ONLY IN EUROPE WHO HAVE GYPSY DEPUTY. SRBIJA IS A COUNTRY OF GYPSY, IS A SHAME TO HAVE GYPSY DEPUTIES IN PARLIAMENT, TO HAVE THEIR TURBOFOLK MUSIC ALWAYS IN SERB RADIO AND TV. IN SRBIJA ARE 800000 CIGANI, THE 8% OF TOTAL POPULATION! SRBE NA VRBE

Ante		05-Feb-2007 18:52
PUS MI KURAC SRBIJU STEFAN, JEBEM TI MATER, SISAJ MI KURAC KROZ SLAMKU! JEBEM JA TEBE MAJKU SRPSKU!!!!!!!!!!!!! ZIVILA HRVATSKA

Goca		05-Feb-2007 08:55
Dear Stefan, Please try to keep your dignity and don't let any of the common and primitive people provoke you! They don't deserve to make you nervous, and anyway it is always better to answer with facts and stay away from bad language. History will show who was right. It is too early to say. We will never lose Kosmet nor will they ever take it from us. Speaking in terms of symbols: the black eagle, the symbol of evil, will NEVER defeat the white eagle, the symbol of justice! The Good will triumph, Goca, Belgrade

Vlad ROMANIAN		03-Feb-2007 13:59
Pentru Tara Pentru Neamul Pentru Generalul si Capitanul Cu Romania si Dumnezeu in inima pana si dupo moarte TRAIASCA ROMANIA

Guest		02-Feb-2007 23:08
haha primitive Albanian Kosovo is still not independent after all these years but still I know it will eventually become independent. This is nothing new for me, I knew Kosovo was gone the moment all the traitorous cowardly democratic parties voted to sign a peace treaty with NATO to allow UN Troops to "become peacekeepers" hahaha peacekeepers my ass Serbs suffer more than any other race in Europe now thanks to them. I have lost interest for Kosovo and I don't care what happens now I just hope that the Serbs in Kosovo will be safe or allowed safe-passage to leave, infact I would gladly trade all the Serbs in North Kosovo for all the Pigeons (Albanians) in Serbia outside of Kosovo (such as those in Presevo and Medvedja). I know that one day Ilir Muslimanski gamad that we will take back Kosovo, and you will not have the luxury of having the West on your side to help haha. Then we will show you, you invalid talking about how Albanians are brave and how you would have defeated Serbs single handedly, even with 90% of the population you could never have defeated us EVER. I know as soon as Milosevic moj dragi ordered our troops to crush the KLA, it was removed and cleansed from the map of Serbia within days let alone weeks hahaha. Russians are no doubt the bravest and most courageous and patriotic people on Earth, history shows us this, they single handedly defeated Hitler and his allies and drove the Germans back to Berlin just as the West was first landing in France haha. History also shows that Serbs are, behind Russians, the bravest and most crazy people in Europe and no doubt the World, we fought and lost 1 million people in the Second World War, we were the only country in ex-Yugo to start Partizan resistance, who fought extremely bravely throughout the war, any book whether it is Western or Eastern will tell you this. We fought the Chetniks, we fought the Ustasa, we fought the Shiptars, we fought the Germans, we fought the Bulgarians, we fought the Germans and FOR WHAT!? So the World we helped prevent from Hitler could fuck us up 50 years later?! Suck my dick I am sorry that Hitler did not win the war and that the whole World is not Nazi that is why I am neo-Nazi and I vote for the British National Party in the elections here! Serbs have always resisted any invador, whether we won or lost, most of the time we lost against enormous empires, but we always fought, unlike Albania who has always been a peasant laughable nation known only for Enver Hoxha (who banned BEARDS IN ALBANIA HAHAAHAHAHHAHAHA) and for whores and prostitutes available in any Western city, including London. If you are proud of your joke of a country and can find some sort of pride in your filthy awful pathetic nation then that is good for you, I am less of a bullshitter, I admitt that Serbia is now totally destroyed and I am no longer so proud to be a Serb if it means being put in the same category as Zoran fucking Djindjic mamicu mu jebem and other national traitors. But still while we have undergone all this shit we still have so much to be proud of, just look at our sporting acheivments for example, in USA Serbs RUN THE NBA, when have you ever heard of a good Albanian sportsman? And don't tell me you are formed like us you can only dream to be as physically developed as us, because we are a beautiful nation, the tallest nation on Earth and surely the strongest, I challenge you to ever meet a weak, short and ugly Serb. Serbs are well known Worldwide as being enormous, as being all built like Rambo because at age 19 we must all do National Service to serve our country's crippled army but it makes a man out of a boy. Albania is a joke, if all you can boast about it stealing Kosovo away through begging the West to come to your aid in a war against little weak Serbia then I pity you Ilir you imbecile. Good evening. SIEG HEIL! CCCC

ILIR LIKA		02-Feb-2007 16:23
yes yes yes WE WON against chetniks $$$$$$$$ K O S O V A IS I N D E P E D E N T $$$$$$$$ TO CHETNIKS HA HA HA HA HA WE DID FUCK YOU UP IN A BIG TIME KOSOVA IS A INDEPEDENT FROM 02-02-2007 BY END OF MARCH IN UNITED NATION IS ONE MORE MEETING BY AHTISARI THE PACK WILL BE THERE ABOUT INDEPEDENT OF KOSOVA FROM TODAY ALBANIAN AND CHETNIKS THEY WILL MEET ABOUT 3-4 TIME TILL END OF MARCH JUST TO SORT OUT THE DEBTS AND TELLING TO SERBS UP TO YOUR ASSS HA HA HA HA HA HA YES YES SORRY GUYS BUT I AM BIT DRUNK AND SO HAPPY NEVER IN MY LIFE I WAS SO HAPPY LIKE TODAY OJ KOSOVE OJ NANA JONE U BANE SHTET TAMAM JAU QIM NANEN SHKIVE NE BOTH E HUPEN KOSOVEN SI QEJT E FLLIQT KUR SMUJN ME KAP AS ZOGUN RRNOFT SHQIPNIA E MADHE S E R B I A I S F U C K U P T O D A Y HA HA HA HA HA FILTHY SERB RACE MONKEY RACE ALBANIAN (ILLYRIAN )THEY TOOK THIER LAND BACK AGAIN FROM SERB GYPSIS HEJ CHETNIKS DONT CRY TO MUCH KOSOVA IS GONE BYE BYE HA HA HA HA HA LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA ( GREAT ALBANIA ) OH MY GOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH SERBIA IS GETING SMALLER AND SMALLER VERY SAD HA HA HA DEATH TO SERB NATION GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ENGLAND

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		01-Feb-2007 00:28
stefan serb yes i know brainwashingness runs deep in the blood and the lying lying lying is very deep rooted in your people, in the end of the day serb wont except that BIH is all our land and vojvodinja also and about crna gora, they wont except it and thats why theres always going to be war between us just because of selfishness and greed yous only want what is not your, i watched a video clip of arkan on youtube claiming that all the way up to berlin is serb land and half of greece, fucken dumb cunt, you know how arkan is crazy when he entered vukovar hospital and shot 150 people in the head one by one women, children and the elderly theres your beloved hero doing such "great" thinging but you know what is even better when i watch the srebrenica massacres but b4 hand the orthodox priest is blessing the soldiers that are actually killing all these people well let me this were have you ever seen hrvati massacring mass people like that in the 90's war huh

Buranjozo		31-Jan-2007 12:47
THIS IS A FOTO THREAD!!! What the Fck are you talking about in your posts??? You stupid idiots!!! Fck off bitchaZZ!!! Stop with this political SHIT!!! 2 ALL cetnikz, ustasa and shiptarz shut your damn mouth and stop writing bullshit.

Vlad		30-Jan-2007 11:45
Bine te am gasit draga sora mea romana, I am glad to see a romanian sister here. My dear, don't worry, I am often already tell here about out qualities and everybody know them. Don't care about shit albanians who how can you see can only to speak about mothers and sisters because they have not a pride personality or a quality, Albania is a little country of shit very easy to clean by the face of the world. They are only 4 millions, very easy to extermined. See for example the difference of our agouments, while me and you who are romanians speak about serious argouments like histoty, economy, politic, personalities, albanians know only to say FUCK YOU FUCK THEM etc.. they are a shit people and when they speak by their fetid mouths exit only shit. Our loved and wonderfull Romania has great important personalities: you have called only few of them but they are more and more, see for example Emile Cioran who is one of the better writers of Europe, Mihai Eminescu a great famous writer very loved also in West, for example in Italy he is very well known. Constantin Brancusi a great scultpor artist who invented the PERFECTIONISM ARTISTIC CURRENT (his great sculptures are also in Metropolitan Museum of New York), we have VLAD TEPES known as Dracula, who is one of the greatest european Heroes, he is the most famous romanian who fought with courage against turks and catch them by our Fatherland, he didn't surrender and also Pope gave him the DRAGON ORDER OF CAVALIERS FOR THE DEFENCE OF CHRISTIANITY; Constantin Brancoveanu, Walachian prince who fought against turks and was beheaded by them together his family after he fought bravely against turks; King Stefan the Great who cathched Turks by Moldova and built there in Medieval Time the Orthodox Monasteries who are in UNESCO LIST actually. King Mihai The Brave who had the courage to insult face to face the Ottoman Sultan Sinan Pasa. Our King Mihai The Brave, Mihai Viteazul in Romanian language, was near to kill the Turk Sultan in a battle and Sinan Pasa who was injured and defeated go away quickly with afraid together his sons, to be not killed. We have Dimitrie Cantemir one of the few Illuminist personality in East Europe. WE HAVE CORNELIU ZELEA CODREANU THE FOUNDATOR OF IRON GUARD. He founded this great organzation for defend our Fatherland against Communist, Sionists and Gypsy. He win his battle for free Romania because 1millions of romanian youngs came in Iron Guard to follow our hero Codreanu, and their courage was so great that the Marshall Antonescu who was a famous leader of our royal army choosed to come in Iron Guard and all the rest of romanian people follow him. Codreanu was killed by communists for his ideology and he show to be an hero. Iron Guard was like also by Hitler who like the ability and courage in war of young romanians troops and therefore ask to Antonescu to become allied of Germany and to send romanian divisions in Odessa. There our troops show all their courage. Also After the death of Codreanu the glorious Marshall Antonescu continue his work taking the leadeership of Iron Guard, he was the first non-german personality who was honourated by Hitler with IRON CROSS OF TEUTONIC CAVALIERS. Antonescu die with great honour, after communist shoot him, his last words were the following:"I am hard to die, you must shoot better, I am a proud romanian". This is our Fatherland I am SUPER PROUD to be Romanian, because my Fatherland produced all these important personality. Now Iron Guard ideology rise up again in Romania with a great and strong organization called NOUADREAPTA who is in EUROPEAN NATIONAL FRONT. many foretigner right radicals come here to us each year to give honour together us to our hero Codreanu. See the web sites: www.nouadreapta.org So my sister be already proud to be Romanian

romaniangirl		30-Jan-2007 07:03
I am writing this message to correct some inaccuracies I've read . Someone said that Romanians don't have a Nobel price winner. Check it out! 448 scientists, have been awarded a Nobel Prize in the sciences (chemistry, physics and physiology or medicine), from 1901 to 1997. In 1974 the Nobel Price for medicine was awarded to George Palade , who is a romanian born scientist. Other famous romanians? Nadia Comaneci (famous gymnast), N. Paulescu the real inventor of insulin (two canadians took credit for it, but all they did was to purify the substance Paulescu has discovered earlier. ) Henry Coanda the inventor of the first jet airplane. The list can go on, and on and on. Here Vlad you have to help. Every nation has its famous people (and infamous too). You guys, why don't you take the chance and tell us about, instead of talking about each others mothers, sisters etc. The bad things said about romanian women hurt me badly to the point that I have to answer those who called us sluts: We are beautiful women! That's the price to pay, we have to accept that out of envy some will call us sluts. Ugly women don't get this name! You Vlad, my dear brother (I'm romanian born living abroad) you seem to know so much about our country's history! Why don't you tell these guys where the name of Romania comes from? They seem to have gotten it wrong. Why don't you tell me and others like me about the real history of the Iron Guard because all I heard was stupid communist propaganda. I did not get a chance to learn the real story. I am surprised to hear that there is a rebirth of it now in Romania. Tell me/us about! God bless the wise and peaceful people . Romanian Girl

ILIR LIKA		30-Jan-2007 02:05
TO VLAD HA HA HA HA FUCK YOUR SELF ROMANIAN GYPSY DEATH TO SERB NATION

ILIR LIKA		30-Jan-2007 02:04
TO STEFAN hey chetnici you did not reply to my answers 15 years ago all you serb pigs with miloshevich were saying kosova is our heart land mother land etc ha ha ha ha ha where is KOSOVA now again after 88years kosova is back in albanian administration since otoman empire lost in 1912 from that date you did ocupay kosova than few years later making fake history kosova is this and that all world know albanian are illyrian decendant history is clear now is not 1878 but 2007 history is in our side albanian are arian race like rest of europe not like you filthy serb slavic you said albanian compare to serbs are week people you serb are 1.83cm ha ha ha we albanian are same size to maybe serbs generaly are more higher than us but you serb people have rabit heart we albanian we got lion heart i konow juring the war in kosova i was my self UQK i was on the front line we were more short of guns no tanks no jet fighter short of amunition you serbs hjad all ex yugoslavian best war machinery and still i remember when we were fighting juring the war with chetniks serb paramilitarys police soldiers were runing from us like rabits leaving guns behinde to us from fear you had from albanian UQK than all the time you were getting revange on civilian population you could not dare to fight to UQKA never even we were short of anumitaion than you but we albanian have heart not like you chetniks killing childrens pregnant women old people etc end of the day you lost the war thanks for help from NATO but even without help of NATO we would win the war at list KOSOVA IS GONE ONCE AND FOR EVER FROM SERBIA KOSOVA IS GOING TO GET SOON IN COMING YEARS TOGETHER WITH ALBANIA BUT WE ARE JUST WAITING FOR INDEPEDENT DAY UNITIL UNITED NATION IN NEW YORK THEY WILL DECIDE THIS YEAR KOSOVA WILL BE THE NEW COUNTRY IN EUROPE THAN LATER IN FEDEERATE WITH ALBANIA WTHIN 5-10 YEARS DEATH TO SERB NATION

Guest		29-Jan-2007 18:07
Ej Konjic konjinu jednu nemoj srati kad te molim. Reci mi kad je Bosna Hrvatskog bilo? Bosna je UVEKKK bilo Srpsko, Vi ste samo napadali tamo u Drugog Svetskog Rata. Reci mi: zasto je Gavrilo Princip ubio Franz Ferdinand? Zato sto je Austra-Ugarska uzela Bosna iz Srbije!!! Majmune sto seres, dobili ste i vise nek sto treba, mi smo trebali uzeti sve iz Kranjine do Dubrovnike ali jebiga mi smo glupi, samo smo borili nasi u Krajinu, trebali smo i razbiti Zagreba da ne bi bilo moglo da ga opet zgradis za 100 godine mamicu ti jebem u picku. Sve ste od nama uzela, a jos hocete? Nikad necete dobiti tvoje Herceg-Bosne i nadam se da cete uskoro izgubiti i sta imate! Pusi kurac. Stefan

Guest		29-Jan-2007 18:03
Ej Konjic konjinu jednu nemoj srati kad te molim. Reci mi kad je Bosna Hrvatskog bilo? Bosna je UVEKKK bilo Srpsko, Vi ste samo napadali tamo u Drugom Svetskom Rata, reci mi, zasto je Gavrilo Princip ubio Franz Ferdinand? Za to sto je Austa-Ugarska uzela Bosna iz Srbije!!! Majmune sto seres, dobili ste vise nek sto treba, mi smo trebali uzeti sve iz Kranjine do Dubrovnik ali jebiga mi smo samo borili nase u Krajina, trebali smo i razbiti Zagreb da ne bi moglo da ga zgradis za 100 godine mamicu ti jebem u picku. Sve ste od nama uzela, a jos hoces? Nikad neces dobiti tvoje Herceg-Bosne i nadam se da cete uskoro izgubiti i sta imate sada! Pusi kurac. Stefan

Guest		29-Jan-2007 17:52
Hey thanks Vlad I agree with everything you said apart from the European Union part. We must NEVER enter the EU becuase entering the EU means we must cower and bow to the West and give away our war heroes (mladic and karadzic) but the Serbian Democratic Government is willing to sell out every Serb on the planet so they can stay in power and make Serbia and offshore sweatshop for USA. Regards: Stefan Ilir Lika, Ha ha, you are a funny illiterate and inbred Albanian need I say more. You agree with me that we must cleanse the Muslim scum from Europe? HELLO ASSHOLE your country is fucking Muslim, you weak-willed cowards licked the ass of any invadors you have ever encountered, remember whose side you were on during the First and Second World War you cowards, and when the Turks came and the Serbian defenders of Europe were slain by the mighty Ottomans Albania fell in a week. During 500 years of occupation Albania adopted EVERYTHING from the Turks, including their faith, they dropped Christianity faster than anyone in history! Meanwhile Serbs constantly resisted, as we did in all wars (particularly the 2nd World War) and that is why we are all still Orthodox Christian like our Slavic Brothers in Russia, our Hellenic Brothers in Greece, and our Romanian Brothers in Romania. Don't give me that shit about Kosovo being Albanian from the start of time, Albanians didn't exist then. Name me one philosopher who does not have any Albanian links that can confirm Albanians are the exact descendants of Illyrians.....don't be stupid Illyrians were annihilated by other invading tribes. There is 5 million Albanians in the Balkans, yet there is at least 9 million Serbs, explain why you should take the place where Serbia began and our heartland because you primitively formed imbeciles heard in an Albanian newspaper that you are Illyrians and therefore the rightfull owners of half of Europe hahaha come on don't be silly Siptare. You guys do make good cakes though, I love Albanian sweetshops in Serbia you guys have great pastry shops. Apart from that all I can see your nation has produced is dirt, prostitutes and imbeciles. And don't think you are tough, any Serb would eat any Albanian in a fight, we are all at least over 183cm (6 foot) and built like Rambo, you guys have a somewhat deformed facial composition, I can always spot a Shiptar on the street its quite funny because I am never wrong, although once I mistook an Iraqi as a Siptar haha. I can predict your reply: 'FUCK UR MOTHER CHETNIK CUNT PUSSY WE ARE TAKING KOSOVO NO MORE KOSOVO NOW KOSOVA HAHAHA CHETNICI SLOWLY DIEING UNITED ALBANIA COMING UP HAHA LONG LIVE ALBANIA AND DEATH TO CHETNICI' If you write anything more civilized than that I will amazed!! Bye bye

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		29-Jan-2007 13:44
stefan cetnik gamad when all serbs leave bosna and hand the land back to the original owners croats then there will be peace between us n cetnici as simple as that yous already have back stabbed to much and murdered to much

VLAD		29-Jan-2007 11:51
TO ILIR LIKA: AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH. ALBANIAN PROSTITUTES ARE THE BETTER OF THE WORLD, IN DURRES EACH DAY LEAVE SHIP TO ITALY, FULL OF PROSTITUTES, BETWEEN THEM IS CERTAINLY ALSO YOUR MOTHER WHO I FUCKED 9 MONTHS AGO AND WHO IS WAITING NOW FOR A NEW CHILD. REMEMBER "MISSION ALBA" OF 1997, ROMANIAN TROOPS GIVING HUMANITARIAN HELPS TO ALBANIANS IN GIJROKASTER. REMEMBER ROMANIAN TROOPS WHO GIVE DAYLY FOOD AND MEDICINE TO YOU POOR ALBANIANS IN KOSOVO. BEFORE TO BE INVADED BY AMERICANS, KOSOVO WAS A CIVIL LAND, THERE WAS ORDER AND LAW, GOOD SERB ADMINISTRATION, GOOD SERB POLICE WHO PERMIT TO LIVE IN NORMALITY. NOW THAT KOSOVO IS IN ALBANIAN HANDS, KOSOVO IS FULL OF MAPHIA, DRUGS AND MURDERS. 120MILLIARD OF DOLLARS WERE SPEND BY USA IN KOSOVO SINCE 1999 FOR RISE UP THAT LAND AFTER THAT WAR, BUT THE SITUATION IS STILL BAD, BECAUSE ALL THAT MONEY WERE STOLEN BY ALBANIAN MAPHIA. THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE: ROMANIANS AND SERBS ARE CIVIL PEOPLES WITH CHRISTIAN VALOURS, WE ARE EDUCATHED PEOPLE, AND IF KOSOVO WERE STILL UNDER SERB ADMINISTRATION, ALL THAT MONEY WERE BE SPEND GOOD AND IN RIGHT WAY FOR INFRSTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT. SERB PLACES OF KOSOVO LIKE KOSOVSKA MITROVICA AND NORTH KOSOVO ARE STILL IN DECENT CONDITIONS, BECAUSE SERB MENTALITY IS TO WORK HONESTLY WITH PATRIOTTISM AND CHRISTIAN VALOURS, AND THEY BEGAN TO WORK ALSO WITHOUT MONEY FOR DEVELOPING THEIR ZONE BY 1999, WHILE IN ALBANIAN PLACES OF KOSOVO IN SOUTH KOSOVO, ALSO WITH 120MILLIARD OF DOLLARS ALL IS IN SHIT CONDITIONS, BECAUSE YOUR MAPHIA STOLEN ALL TO FINANCE THE PROSTITUTION OR DRUG TRADE IN ITALY. I BELIEVE THAT NATO'S TROOPS AND ALSO OUR ROMANIAN TROOPS MUST LEAVE KOSOVO FOR PERMIT TO SERB VOJSKA TO COME BEACK THERE AND PUNISH YOU AND YOUR SHIT ALBANIAN MAPHIA. I AM ANGRY BECAUSE SERBS WHO ARE CHRISTIAN AND HONEST, AND ARE ALSO OUR BROTHERS, NOW MUST SUFFER, BECAUSE THEIR HISTORICAL LAND WHO UNDER THEIR ADMINISTRATION WAS IN GOOD CONDITIONS, NOW IS IN THE SHIT HANDS OF ALBANIANS. SERBS GIVE BLOOD FOR THAT LAND AND ARE THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF KOSOVO, THEY RULE VERY GOOD THERE, AND THEREFORE THAT LAND MUST BE ONLY SERB. WHILE YOU ALBANIANS WHO WERE ALSO 90% THINK ONLY TO CRY AND ASK FOR FOREIGN HELPS AND STOLEN. THIS IS AN AGGRESSION AGAINST JUSTICE, I AM VERY VERY ANGRY FOR IT. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD -----------------------TOTUL PENTRU TARA-------------- ----------------------ONOARE SI PATRIE---------------

ILIR LIKA		29-Jan-2007 04:14
TO STEFAN MAJKU TI JEBEM TI QIFSHA ROPT TA QIFSHA FAMILIN TA QIFSH NANEN NE PIDH HEJ STEFAN WHERE IS MONTENEGRO,BOSNIA, KOSOVA ha ha ha ha ha ha we fuck you up KOSOVA IS GONE FOR EVER FROM SERBIA THIS YEAR KOSOVA WILL BE INDEPEDENT COUNTRY AND IN 5-10 YEARS WE WILL GO IN REFERENDUM FOR GREAT ALBANIA I MEAN WE WILL BE UNITED WITH OUR MOTHER LAND REMEMBER THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SERB SHIT PEOPLE ALL THE TIME SAY KOSOVA IS OUR HEARTLAND HA HA HA HA FUCK ALL OF YOU FILTHY SERB KOSOVA WAS AND IT IS ALBANIAN LAND SINCE HUMAN EVULATION BEGAN YOU FUCKING SERB LOSE EVERY THING SOON IN 2-3 YEARS TIME YOU WILL LOSE EVEN VOJVODINA REMEMBER THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONLY ONE THING I AGREE WITH YOU STEFAN YOU MOTHER FUCKER YOU SAID These races include nigger blacks, Somalis, Pakis and Indians, and all Arabs and Muslims, also people of half-origin must be removed because they almost always follow suit in accord with primitive and savage black behaviour and mannerisms. The Muslims and niggers and Pakis have become too great a problem here, and are causing more trouble than good, they must be removed with those who resist exterminated. Europe must again become clean and pure before other reforms are pushed through with to unite us. YES I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THAT BUT I STILL HATE YOU JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE SERB PIG BUT YOU SHOULD KNOW SOMETHING ONCE WE CLEAR ALL THIS SHIT RACES IN EUROPE WE HAVE TO CLEAR ROMANIAN GYPSIS AND SERB NATION THIS WILL BE DONE BY ALBANIAN SOON IN COUPLE OF YEARS DEATH TO SERB NATION

ILIR LIKA		29-Jan-2007 04:01
TO VLAD vlad you are pice of shit i just want to tell you something if you come to london or any other part of west europe 80% of prostitute are from moldavia romania so yor wife or your sister or your mother may be one of them defenitly even do you come in EU stil you got restricion on visa example if you want top go to england or any other part of west europe you have to apply for visa we albanian in 2-3 years we will go in europe as a UNITED or UNION KOSOVA ALBANIA one of them by the time we albanian will be in europe you romanian than can travel free in europe DEATH TO SERB NATION

VLAD		28-Jan-2007 23:28
To Stefan: Hi brother! I am glad to see you again after all this time, and I thank you very veyr much for your nice words. I am sure that you serb brothers will come soon in European Union, because you country is a symbol of european christian tradition liek us. When you will come in EU, all Europe will be strong and more christian. Stefan, I am glad for your political choose, you are a proud patriot of Serbia. I am planning if it is possible to come in Belgrade on Februar, it is near for me, and I would liek to visit again your city after all this time. I would like to see San Sava church and St.Mark church. PROUD TO BE ROMANIAN , ORTHODOX, AND EUROPEAN LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD ---------------------TOTUL PENTRU TARA-------------- ---------------------ONOARE SI PATRIE---------------------

Guest		28-Jan-2007 22:07
Seig Heil

Guest		28-Jan-2007 22:06
I stumbled upon this page again after almost a year and I must say it is funny to read this stuff. Big regards to Vlad from Romania my orthodox brother I am glad you are well and I would like to congratulate your country on it's recent entry into the European Union I was very happy for you. I am also very happy that finally after all the arguaments I used to have with that Alex guy that now it is proven that democracy in Serbia is shit and that is why the Radicals won the election with an increase of votes from last time! But still the coward traitorous democratic parties will unite to form the overall majority becuase they are scared that the Radicals are back in town. I must inform you Vlad that I am a Neo-Nazi now. From my various experiences both in Serbia and here in England especially I have decided that white Christian Europeans are at the highest stage of EVOLUTION in human terms and are the most superior. I believe Europe should be cleansed of all Albanians, Bosnian Muslims and Turks. I also believe a revolution must shortly take place here in England to rid the nation of the inferior animalist races. These races include nigger blacks, Somalis, Pakis and Indians, and all Arabs and Muslims, also people of half-origin must be removed because they almost always follow suit in accord with primitive and savage black behaviour and mannerisms. The Muslims and niggers and Pakis have become too great a problem here, and are causing more trouble than good, they must be removed with those who resist exterminated. Europe must again become clean and pure before other reforms are pushed through with to unite us. I believe Croats are good, strong and well-formed people, and I do not see much difference between them and us Serbs. Our nations are very similar, the language is the same, we are both South Slavic groups, our appearance is very similar with the average height in Serbia being the tallest in the World shortly followed by Croatia. We are both nations with beautiful people, often tall, with slim beautiful women with dark features and tall well-built strong men. I wish death to Ilir and all other Albanians in particular all Albanians living in Kosovo. I wish health luck and prosperity to Vlad and his wonderful nation. And I hope the Croatian guy will stop hating Serbs because I for one do not hate him or his people, in fact I went to Croatia in Summer and I loved it! Oh and by the way Bosnia is the best place in the Balkans I have visited. It is better than Serbia, Croatia, Greece, Montenegro and FYROM. Regards my friends: Stefan SERB

VLAD		27-Jan-2007 15:04
THE MOST MODERN ANTIVIRUS SISTEM OF MISCROSOFT WAS DONE BY SOME ROMANIAN STUDENTS OF BUCHAREST, OUR STUDENTS WIN EACH SCIENTIST AND MATEMAICAL INTERNATIONAL CONCOURSE. WE HAVE GREAT ATHLETES IN SPORT. ALBANIA IS THE POOREST COUNTRY OF EUROPE, WHERE PEOPLE DIE FOR HUNGRY AND LIVE IN HOXHA'S BUNKERS. EACH YEAR YOU CRY AND ASK FOREIGN HELPS, LIKE IN 1997 WHEN WE ROMANIANS HELP YOU. ALSO IN KOSOVO OUR TROOPS GIVE YOU FOOD AND MEDICAL HELPS EACH DAY AND BUILD YOUR ROADS AND SCHOOLS, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT. ROMANIA IS A CIVILIZED COUNTRY AND I AM PROUD TO BE CHRISTIAN AND ROMANIAN. MY FATHERLAND HAVE ONE OF THE BEST EUROPEAN RIGHT RADICAL IDEOLOGY (IRON GUARD), EACH YEAR GERMAN RIGHT RADICALS, ITALIAN RIGHT RADICALS, SLOVAK RIGHT RADICALS, SPANISH RAIGHT RADICALS COME IN BUCHAREST TO GIVE HONOUR TO OUR LEADER CODREANU AND TO GIVE HONOUR TO OUR GLORIOUS MARSHALL ANTONESCU. ALBANIA WAS ALREADY UNDER FOREIGN DOMINATIONS. WHILE WE ROMANIANS, SERBS AND GREEKS FOUGHT HARDLY AGAINST TURKS TO MANTAIN OUR EUROPEAN CHRISTIAN IDENTITY, YOU ALBANIANS WERE SUBMITTED EASY AND QUICKLY BY TURKS WHO ISLAMIZED YOU. SHAME YOU !!!! YOU ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE HERE IN EUROPE WHO ARE ISLAM. MY GRANDFATHER WHO IS ITALIAN FOUGHT IN ALBANIA AND TOLD ME THAT ALBANIANS ARE FULL OF AFRAID, WHEN ITALIAN TROOPS CAME IN TIRANA, ALL ALBANIANS START TO CRY AND TO GO AWAY WITHOUT RESISTENCE. HE TOLD ME THAT WAS VERY EASY FOR ITALIANS TO CONQUEST ALBANIA.MUSSOLINI MADE ALBANIA AN SUBMITTED LAND OF ITALY AND YOU WERE HUMILIATED UNDER ITALIAN DOMINATION. YOU ALBANIANS ARE SIMILAR A PRIMITIVE PEOPLE OR MONKEYS: BLACK LIKE HASHIM TACHI, UGLY, AND FETID, A VERY INFERIOR RACE, WITH A TURK LANGUAGE. COME ON ILIR, I SUGGEST YOU TO BE HAPPY!! THIS IS THE 9TH MONTH AFTER I FUCKED YOUR MUM, SO YOU WILL HAVE QUICKLY A NEW BROTHER WHO WILL BE ARYAN BECAUSE WILL BE MY SON, AN ARYAN ROMANIAN LIKE ME. YOU MUST BE HAPPY FOR IT. I FUCKED YOUR MUM LIKE SERBS FUCK ALBANIAN WOMEN IN KOSOVO. WHILE IN 1999 SERB SHOW ALL THEIR COURAGE, FIGTHING AGAINST USA WHO ARE THE GREATEST MILITARY POWER OF THE WORLD, YOU ALBANIANS CRY AND ASK FOR NATO'S HELP. SERB STUDENTS DEFENDED THEIR INFRATRUCTURE AND BRIDGES WEARING THE "TARGET SYMBOL", SERB VOJSKA FOUGHT VERY MUCH AGAINST AMERICANS, AND SHOW ALL THE COURAGE AND PRIDE OF SERB PEOPLE. SERBS HAD THE COURAGE TO DIE FOR DEFEND THEIR LAND, BECAUSE KOSOVO IS HISTORICAL SERB LAND, AND WHILE EACH SERB BOY WANTED TO TAKE A WEAPON FOR DEFEND LIKE VOLOUNTEER HIS COUNTRY , ALBANIANS CRY AND GO AWAY IN MACEDONIA OR GREECE, AKING THE HELP OF WEST. SERBS GIVE THEIR BLOOD FOR KOSOVO, THE LITTLE 10%OF SERB MINORITY ARE IN KOSOVO SINCE THE BEGINNING, AND HAD THE COURAGE FOR FIGHT, YOU ALBANIANS ARE 90% AND CRY AND SHOW TO BE A COWARD PEOPLE OF BLACK MONKEYS. IN ROMANIAN BANAT LIVE A SERB MINORITY WHO LIVE N PEACE AND HARMONY WITH US. THEY ARE VERY PROUD, HONEST AND WORKER AND ROMANIANS AND SERBS WERE ALLIES IN MANY WARS, EXPECIALLY AGAINST TURKS. THEIR QUEEN WAS ROMANIAN AND HERE WE HAVE MANY MIXED FAMILIES. THEREFORE I LIKE SERBS AND I AM PROUD TO BE THEIR BROTHER. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD -------------------------TOTUL PENTRU TARA------------------- ------------------------NIHL SINE DEO--------------------------

VLAD		27-Jan-2007 14:41
TO ILIR LIKA: AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP PLEASE, I CAN'T FINISH TO LAUGH BECAUSE BY THE DAY THAT YOU APPEAR HERE I CAN'T STOP TO LAUGH. YOU ARE SO STUPID, YES I KNOW THAT ALBANIANS ARE FAMOUS FOR THEIR STUPIDITY, BUT YOU ARE THE GREATEST EXAMPLE. I BELIEVE YOU WILL BECOME PRESIDENT OF ALBANIA FOR YOUR STUPIDIY. HOW CAN YOU SAT THAT ALBANIAN ARE LATIN????????AH AH AH AH !!!!! HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT ALBANIAN IS A LATIN LANGUAGE????? ALBANIAN IS A SIMILAR TURK LANGUAGE, IS NOT SIMILAR WITH LATIN LANGUAGES IN ABSOLUTE NEVER!!!! ROMANIAN IS A LATIN LANGUAGE BECAUSE OUR LANGUAGE IS SIMILAR TO ITALIAN AND SPANISH, ALSO ROMANIAN NAMES ARE LATIN (AURELIAN, FLAVIUS, TIBERIU, CAIUS, MARIUS) AND ROMANIA IS A NAME WHO IS INSPIRED BY "ROME", BECAUSE WE HAVE LATIN CULTURE. WE ARE DACIAN RACE WITH LATIN CULTURE , THEREFORE WE ARE WHITE INDO-EUROPEAN ARYAN PEOPLE. WE ARE A PURE RACE. YOU ALBANIANS ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE IN EUROPE WHO IS NOT ARYAN AND YOU ARE AN INFERIOR RACE. YOU ARE FETID, WITH LARGE MOUTH, SQUARE HEAD, DIRTY HAIR, THICKSET, WITH CURLY HAIR. YOUR SKIN IS BLACK LIKE GYSPY SEE HASHIM TACHI FOR EXAMPLE WHO IS BLACK LIKE A DIRTY GYPSY. WE ROMANIANS WERE LIKE ALSO BY HITLER AND GOERING WHO ADMIRE OUR COURAGE IN THE BATTLE OF ODESSA AGAINST COMMUNIST SOVIETS. IRON GUARD IS AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL RIGHT RADICAL. ROMANIA IS IN EUROPEAN UNION, WE HAVE HERE THE BEST INDUSTRIES AND COMPANIES OF WEST, FOR EXAMPL EONLY IN TIMISOARA ARE 15000 ITALIAN INDUSTRIES, AND WE HAVE THE GREATEST BANKS OF WEST. TIMISOARA HAS AN INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX WHO WAS COMPARATED BY WEST FINANCIAL MEDIA WITH WEST INDUSTRIAL COMPLEXES, EXPECIALLY WITH VENETO IN ITALY. HERE WE HAVE: BENETTON, DUCATI (LUXUOUS MOTORCILE), ZOPPAS, GEOX, DAEWOO, CROSS LANDER, PHILIPS, SIMENS ETC... ALL ROMANIAN TOWNS HAVE HYPERMARKETS, WE HAVE ALSO ROMANIAN INDUSTRIES WHO PRODUCE VERY MUCH: WE HAVE DACIA WHO PRODUCE CARS, ARO WHO PRODUCE 4X4 CARS REQUESTED ALSO BY FOREIGN ARMY AND POLICE, ROMAN DIESEL WHO PRODUCE CAMION, ASTRA WHO PRODUCE TRAINS IN ARAD, CFR WHO PRODUCE ALSO TRAINS IN CRAIOVA, WE PRODUCE GOLD IN BUCOVINA, WE PRODUCE PETROLEUM IN PITESTI, SHIPS IN CONSTANTA. WE HAVE ALSO A GREAT MILITARY INDUSTRY WHO EXPORT WEAPONS FOR 2MILLIARD DOLLARS EACH YEAR. ALBANIA IS A SHIT COUNTRY, WE ARE IN 2007 AND IN ALBANIA STILL DON'T EXIST ELECRTICAL ENERGY AND LIGHTS, WHILE IN ROMANIA IS A MODERN LAW, IN ALBANIA FAMILIES KILL EACH OTHER INSIPERD TO MEDIEVAL KANUN. IN ALBANIA TRANSPORTS ARE DONE WITH DONKEY, WHILE IN BUCHAREST WE HAVE UNDERGROUND RAILWAY AND WE HAVE MOTORROADS, HERE IN ROMANIA. IN ROMANIA IS A LITTLE UNEMPLOYMENT WHILE IN ALBANIA ALL ARE WITHOUT JOB. I REMEMBER IN 1997 WHEN YOU WERE NEAR TO DIE FOR HUNGRY, ROMANIAN TROOPS CAME IN GIJROKASTER IN "MISSION ALBA" FOR GIVE TO ALBANIANS HUMANITARIAN HELPS. YOU CAN'T LIVE AUTONOMY, ALL YOUR HISTORY WHO ASK THE HELP OF OTHERS.

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		27-Jan-2007 02:03
vlad ou have been feed propoganda all your miserable life so i dont blame you in thinking like a pigon that serbs and milosevic's propaganda has invaded you with, the serbs simply have no right in trying to establish there own serb government in croatia as that is croatian land and plus we didnt cleanse the serbs they left themselfs bcoz they were scared they were going to copp what we copped from them so the fled like rats to banja luka which already was about to fall, look i know you stupid and brainwashed but yous all know that BIH is croat land stolen from us all because of those dirty cheap turks

ILIR LIKA		26-Jan-2007 14:28
vlad gypsi

ILIR LIKA		24-Jan-2007 23:17
vlad even your language is gypsy language but latin language in fact albanian is latin language you can say anything but everybody know who are romanian and albanian we are not in 1878 but in 2007 history is clear and in our side i mean albanian side you are saying you are in europe so what in europe is even bulgaria and soon within 2-3 years albania and kosova,macedonia,croatia,montenegro serbia will be the last to be in europe cz are shit nation and united albania within 10 years remember that romanian gypsy or serb minority from romania like you all ways will be down and hate it from european people exept poor romanian race IRON GUARD VLAD you are pice of shit serb from romania or romanian gypsy who hate albanian cz they fuck your wife or your girfriend albanian for a 1dollar 15 years ago fuck off we all know who are romanian fuck you ta qifsha motren ta qifsha familjen ta qifsh nanen ne pidh edhe te deknit ti qifsha ne vorr krejt ropt ti qifsha LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA FUCK SERB NATION DERB PEOPLE THEY ARE THE MOST EVIL PEOPLE IN BALKAN AND MOST SMELLY PEOPLE AND DIRTY LIKE PIGS DEATH TO SERB PEOPLE wi

Vlad		24-Jan-2007 16:20
SOME CONSIDERATION ABOUT ALBANIAN RACE: SQUARE HEAD, VERY THICKSET, DIRTY, LARGE AND HORRIBLE MOUTH, VERY FETID (THE SAME OF SHIT), WRINKLED, AND WITH CURLY HAIR. VERY SHIT RACE, AND ALL ARE THE SAME, ALBANIAN RACE IS A NON-ARYAN RACE BECAUSE IT HAS NON-ARYAN PHISICAL ASPECT. THEY SAME MORE WITH TURKS THAN WITH EUROPEANS. MORE ALBANIANS AREN'T WHITE, BUT VERY DARK LIKE TURKS, SEE HASHIM TACHI FOR EXAMPLE WHO IS BLACK LIKE A TURK OR A GYPSY. SO ILIR LIKA, STOP TO SAY THAT WE ROMANIANS ARE YOUR COUSINS, BECAUSE OUR RACE IS ARYAN, WE ARE WHITE, AND WE ARE THE DESCENDANTS OD DACIANS. LIKE YOU CAN SEE IN TRAIAN COLUMN IN ROME, DACIANS WERE TALL, HANDSOME, PROUD, AND WE ARE THEIR DESCENDANTS. WE ARE AN HANDSOME ARYAN RACE, AND DACIANS ARE NOT ILLIRIANS BUT GETO-SARMATIC LIKE TRACIANS AND SARMATICS WO WERE ALSO COUSINS WITH ANCIENT GREEKS. HEY ILIR, YOU REMEMBER ROMANIAN TROOPS IN GJIROKASTER IN "ALBA OPERATION" GIVING HUMANITARIAN HELPS TO ALBANIANS. OUR TROOPS WERE A CONTINGENT OF ALMOST 400 SOLDIERS. IF YOU WANT I CAN ALSO GIVE YOU SOME ARTICLES ABOUT THE HUMANITARIAN HELPS GIVEN BY ROMANIA TO POOR ALBANIA. OUR SOLDIERS GIVEN YOU FOOD, MEDICINE, AND BUILT YOUR ROADS THER IN SOUTH OF ALBANIA. ALSO IN KOSOVO NOW ARE PRESENT A CONTINGENT OF ROMANIAN TROOPS TOGETHER OTHER NATO'S TROOPS FOR GIVE YOU HUMANITARIANS HELPS, BECAUSE YOU ALBANIANS CAN LIVE ONLY WITH FOREIGN HELPS. THANKS TO ROMANIAN TROOPS THERE IN KOSOVO YOU ALBANIANS ARE NOT ALL KILLED BY SERBS. OUR TROOPS STAY TO BUILDING YOUR SCHOOLS, TO BUILDING YOUR HOSPITALS TOGETHER OTHER NATO'S TROOPS. I NOT UNDERSTAND WHY OUR ROMANIAN GLORIOUS TROOPS ARE THERE TO DEFEND AND HELP YOU, BECAUSE OUR HISTORICAL FRIENDS ARE SERBS, I BELIEVE ROMANIAN TROOPS MUST NOT DEFEND AND HELP ALBANIANS ON KOSOVO, BECAUSE IN KOSOVO MUST BE ONLY SERB TROOPS. THE ONLY REASON BECAUSE FOREIGN TROOPS ARE THERE IN KOSOVO IS BECAUSE YOU ALBANIANS ALSO IF ARE 90% OF TOTAL POPULATION OF THAT LAND, HAVE AFRAID OF 10% OF SERBS WHO ARE COURAGEOUS, STRONG AND VERY ANGRY AGAINST YOU. ROMANIAN CONTINGENT IN KOSOVO MUST LEAVE NATO AND MUST HELP OUR SERB FRIENDS TO CLEAN KOSOVO BY YOUR FETID ALBANIAN PRESENCES. SERB QUEEN WAS ROMANIAN, IN SERB BANAT LIVE A ROMANIAN MINORITY WHO LIVE IN PEACE AND HARMONY WITH SERBS, ALSO IN ROMANIAN BANAT, SERB MINORITY LIVE FRIENDLY AND WITHOUT PROBLEMS WITH US. IN MEDIEVAL TIME, ROMANIA AND SERBIA FOUGHT TOGETHER AGAINST TURKS AND SHOW OUR COMMON PRIDE TO BE EUROPEAN AND CHRISTIAN. ROMANIANS AND SERBS ARE ORTODHOXS. SO THESE ARE THE REASON BECAUSE SERBS ARE OUR BROTHERS AND YOU ALBANIANS NOT. YOU ALBANIANS ARE THE SHIT RACE OF EUROPE, SIMILAR LANGUAGE TO TURKS, SHIT FACES, SHIT BRAIN AND SHIT COUNTRY. LONG LIVE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD --------------------------TOTUL PENTRU TARA------------------------------------------- --------------------------ONOARE SI PATRIA------------------------------------------------

VLAD		24-Jan-2007 12:46
TO ILIR LIKA: AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AHA AH AH AH AH AH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU MADE ME SO SMILE. ROMANIA THE POOR COUNTRY OF EUROPE???? AH AH AH AH AH AAH AH O JESUS MY GOD! YOU ARE THE BETTER BUFFON OF THE WORLD. ROMANIA IS IN EU, WE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST ECONOMICAL GREW OG EUROPE (7%) AND BY 2000 WE HAVE A GREAT ECONOMICAL GROWH WHO TOUCHED IN 2004 ALSO 8,4% IN ROMANIA ARE THE GREATEST BANKS OF EUROPE, IS THE BALKAN COUTNRY WHO HAS THE GREATEST FOREIGN COMPANY, WE HAVE MOTORROADS ( BUCHAREST-PITESTI, BUCHAREST-CONSTANTA) AND NOW IS IN BUILDING THE "TRANSILVANYA" MOTORROAD BY ORADEA TO BUCHAREST WHO IS THE GREATEST INFRASTRUCTURE WHO IS ACTUALLY IN BUILDING, IT COSTED 2,2000MILLIONS OF EUROPE ( THE DOUBLE OF GDP OF ALBANIA), EACH ROMANIAN TOWN HAS AN HYPERMARKET, FOR EXAMPLE MY TOWN TIMISOARA HAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST HYPERMARKET OF EAST EUROPE (IULIUS MALL). IN ROMANIA ARE FOREIGN WEST STUDENTS WHO COME FOR ERASMUS PROJECT, I DON'T HEARD A SAME THING IN ALBANIA, MAYBE BECAUSE IN ALBANIA ARE NOT UNIVERSITIES OR SCHOOLS. THEREFORE OUR CAPITOL BUCHAREST IS FULL OF ALBANIAN DIRTY AND POOR STUDENTS WHO COME HERE TO LEARN, AND WE LOVE TO FUCK YOUR GIRLS WHO COME HERE BECAUSE LOVE ROMANIAN COCK. IN ALBANIA, THE ONLY LAW IS THE MEDIEVAL KANUN, YOU HAVEN'T WATER, YOU HAVEN'T ELECTRICAL ENERGY AND YOU HAVEN'T ELECRTICAL LIGHTS, THEREFORE YOU STEAL ELECTRICAL LIGHT WITH GENERATORS BY THE FEW PUBLIC LIGHTS PRESENTS ON ROADS. IN ALBANIA IN DURESS, AND VLORE-VALONA, IS THE BIGGEST MAPHIA OF BALKAN WHO HAVE TRAFFIC OF CARS STOLEN BY ITALY. I REMEMBER AFTER YOUR REVOLUTION AGAINST BERISHA, ROMANIAN TROOPS WITH OTHER TROOPS, CAME ON GJIROKASTER FOR HELP YOUR PEOPLE WHO WAS NEAR TO DIE FOR HUNGRY. OUR TROOPS REMAINED THERE 3 YEARS, AND I AM SURE THEY FUCKED ALL ALBANIANS WOMEN. HEY ILIR, I KNEW YOUR MUM IN BRINDISI IN ITALY , WHEN SHE CRY ON THE ROAD, I UNDERSTOOD QUICKLY SHE IS A PROSTITUTE, AND SHE ASK ME TO SUCK MY COCK AND TO BE FUCKED BY ME BECAUSE THE ONLY DREAM OF ALBANIAN WOMEN IS TO BE FUCKED BY A ROMANIAN. I ACCEPTED TO FUCK HER, BUT I FORCED HER TO CLEAN HERSELF BEFORE, BECAUSE YOU ALBANIANS ARE SO DIRTY. HEY ILIR! BE HAPPY, YOU WILL HAVE WUICKLY A BROTHER BECAUSE IS THE 9TH MONTH AFTER I FUCKED YOUR MOTHER. I AM SURE YOUR NEW BROTHER WILL BE WONDERFULL, BECAUSE HE WILL BE ROMANIAN HEY ILIR! YOU MUST KNOW THAT IN KOSOVO ARE ROMANIAN TROOPS WITH OHTER NATO'S TROOPS FOR GIVE YOU HUMANITARIAN HELPS. HEY ILIR, I KNOW THAT YOUR DAD DIE AFTER TO BE FUCKED IN ASS BY SERBS, YOU MOTHER TOLD IT ME, CRYING. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD! ALBANIANS=AFRICANS OF EUROPE

Tristan Fleury		24-Jan-2007 02:31
Oh my god, I read your stuped comments... I'm from France, and I have visited much of balkan peninsula area, i went to Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, Bulgraria, Romania, Albania and Greece. I liked Belgrade, I came here to revive my memories there, and i read this stuped comments mostly from albanians. Firstly Ilir Lika, Serbia is in a tough economic sitation, but Albania is TODAY(they say economic situation got better) like some African state, its the wonder of Europe, how did such poor state emerge in Europe? We can say that Serbia is a poor country in comparison to other Europian countries, but Albania is so poor that it cannot be asimilated in europian poor group. Ilir Lika you give labels who is gypsy or who is not arial, IT DOES NOT MATTER FOR YOU, if you Albanians where the whitest people on earth its not important, YOU ARE A SAD UNDEVELOPED NATION, and please remember Europe is Cristian, you are muslim. Balkan peninsula has much diversity, many nations, religions, origin, but i really dont think Albania belongs to all that. Albania has a very very very nice nature, but shame people have made that counry so damn ugly and filthy. I'm just giving my opinion, becouse I have been there.

ILIR LIKA		23-Jan-2007 23:18
TO VLAD YOU MAKE ME SMILE YOU PICE OF SHIT 15 YEARS AGO MY FATHER USE TO GO IN ROMANIA SELLING BLACK PAPER AND JEANS ,SWEETS ETC YOU WERE THE POOREST COUNTRY IN EUROPE WE KOSOVAN PEOPLE WE WERE FOR YOU LIKE AMERICAN PEOPLE TODAY I MEAN ALL EX YUGOSLAVIAN PEOPLE ANYWAY THANKS TO GOD YUGOSLAVIA IS FUCK UP IT DOES NOT EXSIST ANY MORE AT LIST SERBS ARE THE MOST DESTROYED THANKS TO GOD REST OF YUGOSLAVIAN COUNTRIES ARE BETTER OFFR THAN SERBS. BUT ONE THINK I DONT UNDERSTAND !!!!!!!!!! ROMANIAN AND SERBS ARE BROTHER!!!!!!! SERB PEOPLE HATE ROMANIAN MORE THAN US ALBANIAN ROMANIAN MERCENAR WERE SERB MINORITY PEOPLE LIVING IN ROMANIA THE ONE WHO FOUGHT BEHALF OF SERB PEOPLE OR GYPSIS FROM ROMANIA BUT NOT UR IRON GUARD !!!!!! CZ IRON GUARD ARE REAL ROMANIAN DECENDANT OR OUR CLOSEST COUSIN OF ALBANIAN WHO EVER IS POOR ROMANIAN I MEAN WHITE ROMANIAN ARE OUR CLOSEST TRIBE ILLYRIAN TRIBE VLAD I THINK YOU ARE SERB ORIGIN BUT FROM ROMANIA !!! YOU TELLING US SERB PEOPLE LIKE ROMANIAN PEOPLE HA HA HA HA HA YOU MAKING ME SMILE IS SAME THING TO SAY WE SOMALIAN PEOPLE ARE BROTHER WITH ALBANIAN PEOLE JUST BECAUSE OF MUSLIM RELIGION HA HA HA WHO LIKE SOMALIAN FUCK THEM CZ ARE ANIMAL PEOPLE,MONKEY ETC SO SAME THING SERB PEOPLE SAY ABOUT ROMANIAN AND YOU TELLING ME THAT I KNOW SERB PEOLE BETTER THAN YOU AND I KNOW SERB PEOPLE WITH WHICH NATION THEY GO GOOD THE BEST ALIES OF SERBS ARE FRENCH PEOPLE AND GREEK PEOPLE IF YOU TELL TO A SERB MAN ROMANIAN PEOPLE ARE NICE PEOLE AND SAME LIKE YOU HE WILL REPLAY TO YOU WHO ARE ROMANIAN FUCK THEM CIGANI CIGANI JEBOTE CIGANI I THINK YOU KNOW NOT CZ SERBS ARE BEETER THAN YOU THEY ARE SAME SHIT BUT REMEMBER THEY AND ASK ANYBODY AND THIS IS FACT SERB PEOPLE DONT LIKE ROMANIAN FUCK OF WITH YOUR RELIGION SO IT MEANS EVEN ETHIOPEAN OR ERITREN PEOPLE ARE YOUR BROTHER CZ OF SHITY ORTHODOX RELIGION FUCK OFF VLAD AND FUCK ALL SERB PEOPLE SERBS ARE THE BIGEST LOOSEER IN YUGOSLAVIA SOON THEY ARE GOING TO LOOSE VOJVODINA HEY VLAD SEND YOUR MOTHER OR GO DO DNA TEST MAYBE YOUR FATHER IS SAME AS MY FATHER BECAUSE MY FATHER 15 YEARS AGO IN ROMANIA HE COULD BY ALL WILLAGE WITH ONE MONTHLY VAGE IN YOUGOSLAVIA EVEN TODAY MY SELF I CAN FUCK ANY ROMANIAN FOR 2 EURO SO FUCK OF YOU PICE OF SHIT GO AND LICK SERB ASS HA HA HA HA SERB NATION ARE THE BIGEST GYPSY NATION IN EUROPE THATS WAY EUROPEN PEOPLE DONT LIKE THEM ANY MORE SO YOU VLAD SHUT A FUCK UP ALBANIAN ARE GOING TO BE A SECOND ISRAEL IN BALKAN VLAD IF YOU HAVE WIFE TELL US IS SHE GOOD IN SEX HEY VLAD ASK YOUR WIFE IF SHE WANT ALBANIAN DICK I BET YOU SHE LIKE ALBANIAN COCK IF YOU LET ME SLLEP WITH YOUR WIFE ONLY FOR ONE NIGHT I WILL GIVE YOU 50 EURO IF IS NOT TO MUCH ASK MORE I GOT MONEY TO BY ALL ONE SMALL CITY IN ROMANIA HAS YOUR WIFE OR YOUR GIRFRIEND GOT A SMALL PUSSY IF I PUT MY COCK INSIDE IN YOUR WIFE PUSSY YOU WILL HEAR HER SCREAMING 100MILE SEND YOR WIFE TO KOSOVA IF YOU WANT TO BE A REACH MAN HA HA HA HA DEATH TO SERB NATION

Vlad		23-Jan-2007 12:06
OH ILIR: MAYBE I MEET YOUR MOTHER IN THE ROADS OF BRINDISI AND ROME IN ITALY WORKING HARDLY LIKE PROSTITUTES, SHE SEEM ME SO SAD, MAYBE ALBANIAN MEN AREN'T MALE, OF COURSE SIPTAR WOMEN LOVED ROMANIANS AND SERBS MEN IN KOSOVO. WE FUCKED THEM WITHOUT VIOLENCE THEY WERE SO HAPPY FOR BE FUCKED BY REAL MEN.

Vlad		23-Jan-2007 12:03
TO ILIR LIKA: your comment show yout stupidity, i blieve you have a shit brain bu tthis is normal because you are albanian. What you tols now is very different to what you told before about we romanians, so it show your inocerences. My superiority on you is show by following things: I had already my lines of think when you changed your opinion day by day, you said that we romanians are heroes are greats etc.. to kiss my ass in front of serbs, and now that you see that my way of thnk is the same because I am romanian and I am COERENT, you become full of angry and you start to give stupid insults without sense. I was already together my ORTODHOX serb brothers because our brothers are SERBS not SHIT ALBANIANS like you who go with SHIPS IN MILLIONS OF PEOPLES TO BRAKE THE BALLS OF ITALIAN IN BRINDISI, and to steal the land of other honeste and worker peoples like serbs like in Kosovo. I was already coerent with my opinions, because I am ROMANIAN I am ORTOSHOX I am RIGHT RADICAL, while you are only a shit SIPTARE fucked by chetniks and romanians volounteers in Kosovo together your mother. We romanians will not never support siptare, because OUR HISTORICAL FRIENDS ARE SERBS, we fought together many wars to defeat TURKS, HUNGARIANS etc...and we are proud to be european and ortodhox. I hope soon OUR SERBS BROTHERS will come back in kosovo to CLEAN their LAND by you who dirty with your SHIT PRESENCES that glourious country. Serbs fought and give bloods for Kosovo, who was the fost serb land. Your albanians had only the merit to make more sons for becom e more and stop. We romanians are 70% gypsy????????? AH AH AH AHA AH AH AH AH A. Where you took this stupid news please tell me what drougs you take for say your stupidities like. romanians are gypsy and serbs are iranians AH AH AH AH AH. iI CAN'T STOP TO LAUGH. You are the greatest buffon of world, but is normal becuse you are SIPTARE. We romanians are ARYAN 100% and our IRON GYUARD is and example of RIGHT RADICALS, like show the ispirations to EUROPEAN NATIONAL FRONT who ispired itself to Iron Gurad and Falange of Spain. WHEN YOUR SIPTARE WERE FUCKED DAY BY DAY TO ITALIAN TROOPS OF MUSOLINI, UNDER ITALIAN REIGN, WE ROMANIANS WERE A SOVEREIGN STATE AND OUR IRON GUARD WAS REPSECTED EVERY WHERE. Also Hitler thanks romanians for their help against USSR in Odessa. STILL TODAY THE MOTTO OF FORZA NUOVA THE MOST ITALIAN RIGHT RADICA MOVIMENT SI "ALL FOR THE FATHERLAND" ISPIRED TO IRON GUARD AND THEY HAD IN THEIR LOCAL BASES THE PORTRAIT OF OUR LEADER CODREANU TOGETHER MUSSOLINI. I AM PROUD TO BE ROMANIAN AND TO BE BROTHER WITH SERBS, I HOPE THEY WILL SOON COME BACK IN KOSOVO AND I WILL BE GLAD TO COME THERE WITH THEM AND ROMANIANS VOLOUNTEER LIKE IN 1999 TO FUCK YOUR SIPTARE AND TO FREE A CHRISTIAN EUROPEAN LAND BY YOU FUCKED ISLAMIC SIPTARE. To Hrvatski: the real HEADICK here ARE ONLY YOU ( of course together Ilir Lika). You can't say me that OLUJA operations was good and serbs were criminals. Maybe you wanted to took again Kraijna and I can understand it, but there you forced 300000 serbs to go out and you killed them exactly like they killed you in Bosna, so why you start to insults wiothout sense, insted to be coerent? TO ILIR LIKA: WHAT REASON YOU HAVE FOR BE PROUD TO BE ALBANIAN? FOR KANUN? FOR BE SUBMISSED ALL YOUR HISTORY? FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT? I REMEMBER YOU THAT ROMANIA IS IN EU AND YOU ARE STILL WITH ROADS WITHOUT NAMES AND ONLY WITH NUMBERS.

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		23-Jan-2007 00:34
vlad what your saying is something i dont even hear from serbs, very very very dumb simple as that, the croats didnt do shit all in oluja but take there stolen land back from the serbs and it all would be only fair if the croats take all of herceg-bosna back the the gunk that lives there that isnt croat that is our land that was stolen from us at first by the fkn piece of shit turks, ps stop reading books written by english and americans coz soon they will say that defeated the turks from europe not us croats and say that they are the original people of rome and china plffffffftttttttttttt lol dickheads

ILIR LIKA		22-Jan-2007 22:22
to vlad fuck you ok you mother fucker go and fuck your self you fucking romanian gypsi you telling us a history this and that and this if you like serb pigs send your mother or sister to belgrade to work as a prostitute cz ur are a same shit like serb ROMANIA is 70% gypsi only 30% romanian decent so fuck yor self you dont belong to stay in europe you romanian gypsi and serbian people should go back to iran and india fuck you vlad come to kosova with your sisiter she can work as a prostitute for KFOR anyway we got somany prostitute from romania working in PRISHTINA as prostitute you romanian filthy people are like seeb pigs do you know SKENDERBEJ SS we cut serb people juring the second world war like pigs juring the war in kosova in 1997-1999 we did same things when we did cought chetniks and some romanian mercenars fighting behalf of chetniks so FUCK OFF VLAD OK

VLAD		21-Jan-2007 11:13
to Hrvatski: I didn't said something wrong because the fact that IRON GUARD, USTASHE, NAZI GERMANY, FASHIST ITALY, TISO'S SLOVAKIA and SPANISH FALANGE, are all born by a same RADICAL RIGHT orgin is a fact. Aren't you proud to be a RADICAL OF RIGHT? I am proud to lovEe my IRON GUARD, why you feel offend to be considered a RADICAL OF RIGHT? I have only told a fact, I have only said that SERB NATIIONALISM is different to other european nationalisms like my IRON GUARD and your USTASHE who have the same RADICAL RIGHT ORIGIN, because serb nationalism different to IRON GUARD and USATSHE, ispire itself not to RADICAL RIGHT DOCTTRINE but to MONARCHIC ORTODHOX PATRIOTTISM of Serbia. I am PROUD to be a radical of right, why you Hrvatski Vitez, feel so offend when I say that also USTASHE are right radicals? Is not a SHAME is a PRIDE to be RADICAL of RIGHT. I can understand you when you criticize me because I don't saw live your war against serbs, and certainly I understand that you are angry for serb violences against croat civilians, but also croats committed violences against serb civilians. Yes is true that serb raped and kill croats in Bosnia but is also true that croats raped and kill serbs on Kraijna in OLUJA operation, so in a war the sufferences is not only of A ONE peoples but of all. Also in WW2, Germans who were considered a people of criminals suffered much and die under american bombs, and in that war also many innoecent german civilians die, so this show that in war don't exist ONLY A VICTIM but all are KILLER AND VICTIMS in the SAME TIMES.

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		20-Jan-2007 23:38
vlad shut the fuck up... we adopted a fascism type of nationalism, thats so closed minded and stupid to say

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		20-Jan-2007 23:35
easy said for someone who is sitting on a couch and watching all this on tv and reading biased books written by the english the serbs family throught royal blood lines and also americans books and source, any how let see what you say when they rape and kill and touture everything you have known and loved...... i gorgive them but i will never forget ......hedpe

Vlad		19-Jan-2007 11:51
To Ilir Lika: is a good thing that you love your country and that you are proud of it, this show you are a patriot, but I don't believe is the case to hate Serbia or oter slavic coutnries for it. Serbia, like also other slavic coountries is a civilized country, and serbs are a a worker and a proud people. European history is very very complicated, also slavic are not the same in themselves, because exist a difference between north mittle-european slavic peoples like Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenians and Croats and south slavic peoples like Serbs, Bulgarians, Macedonians.The fist category appartain to a chatolic-west culture and history and the second peoples appartain to a Bizantine, balkan ortodhox culture and history. This differences and also this common aspects because both are all slavics and brothers, made European culture very beautiful because made it very rich and composite. Serbia has in my opinion an important role in the defence of Europe against turks like we Romanians and Bulgarians and Greeks, and also like you Albanians who with your hero Skandeberg fought very much to defend your chatolic land against turk aggressiion. IN Europe we are all from Indo-European race except of Finnish, Estonians, Hungarians who are from a Unno-tatars race and Basques who are from an autoctnone people. So is without sense to say that serbs are arabs or gypsy, sincerely I don't know ehere you took this informations, who seem me very crazy. I believe serbs are very patriot and proud, they have a particolar nationalism very interesting who is diffrrent to others europeans nationalisms, for example I am Romanian and I am refere to my Iron Guard nationalism, Croats referes to Ustashe nationalisms and Slovaks to Tiso's nationalism, while Serbs has a non-fashist nationalism similar to chinese Kuomintang, who refere itself to Monarchy and serbs traditions. Romanian, Italian, Croat, German, Spanish ans Slovak nationalism refere to a common fashist nationalist doctrine; while Serbs have with Chetniks a different and particular nationalism, who also if is not my kind of nationalism, is however very very interesting and with a great farm, also if we consider that Serbs are in anycase europeans like we Romanians, Italians, Slovaks, Germans and Spanishs. SO their nationalism also if is very string is non-fashist like mine but very beautiful and with a great farm. All these differences and common aspects, must made all us interested to study and to know each other instead to offend or to hate each other, also because our future is in Europe and we must fight for a strong Europe of the peoples agains Americans, SIonist powers, Arabs and Chinese rising power. WE MUST BE PROUD OF OUR COUNTRIES AND WE MUST FIGHT TO DEFEND THEM , BUT IS WITHOUT SENSE TO KILL EACH OTHER WHILE AMERICANS, SIONISTS, ARABS, CHINESES RISING POWERS START TO DESTROY OUR EUROPE WHO IS THE MOTHER OF ALL CULTURES. I would like to see here again my friends Alex and Stefan who also have good opinions and love history:) I LOVE MY FATHERLAND ROMANIA AND I FEEL MARSHALL ANTONESCU IN MY HEARTH.

ILIR LIKA		16-Jan-2007 23:58
we albanian we are the oldest nation in balkan since human began the life in the earth then after us greeks moved to balkan from siria liban etc.i mean arab countries ,romanian are our closest cousin to albanian dalmatian in croatia are albanian but convert it to slavik nation i mean gypsi nation montenegrian are poor albanian decent but convert it to gypsy nation i mean like serb pigs bosnian are mix with turkish and serb so they are shit people can you imagine oh my god turkish and serb the most shity people in the world serbs in southern serbia from NIS PROKUPLE SMEDEREVO JABLLANICA ETC ETC are albanian but they covert it those albanian by force to serb shit fuck them to MACEDONIAN ARE POOR GYPSY FROM IRAN SERBS ARE FROM URAL SEA I MEAN GYPSI FROM ASIA so on the end ALBANIAN ARE SUPERIOR RACE THE POOREST RACE I MEAN EUROPAN RACE ILLYRIAN RACE EVEN EUROPE KNOW THAT NOW AND THEY ARE IN OUR SITE THANKS TO GOD ABOUT AMERICANS EVERY BODY KNOWS THEY ARE OUR BEST FRIENDS SERBIA SOON IS GOING TO BE THE SMALLEST COUNTRY IN BALKAN EVEN IN EUROPE AND POREST COUNTRY IN EUROPE NEXT SERB GENERATION THEY WILL COME TO GREAT ALBANIA TO CLEAN OUR STREETS AND TOILETS BUT IN EVERY ALBANIAN HEART WE GOT SOME THING IS TELLING US WHEN WE GET ONE DAY STRONGER AND BIGER ALBANIA WE WILL FUCK SERB PEOPLE EVEN DO THEY WILL BE SMALL COUNTRY WE WILL WIPE THEM UP FROM THE EARTH I AM PROUD TO BE ALBANIAN

hedpe		16-Jan-2007 00:03
"hrvatski vitez", you are the shame of your people, yu don't give any positive image of your country givent that you don't want to drop your primitive attitude toward other peoples. The world can not go on with guy's llike you, can you stop for one second all your bestial feelings in order to think smartly about serbs, croats .... I read books, I thought for a long time about balkans and I drawn the following conclusions: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR HATING SERBS OR HATING CROATS. Now, I beg you to stop spreading anger and I ask you to tell me (in an intelligent way) why do you so strongly hate serbs and what are your ideas that you vindicate.

juice		15-Jan-2007 23:48
The poorest country in europe is "Kosova" because of people like you, in other words because of albanian terrorists who tryed and managed to purify Kosovo from its serbian inhabitants. I don't know why are you so proud of your past (when you were catholic or orthodox christians or pagans) given that you are nowadays muslims and destroy all the christian heritage in Kosovo: it is nonsense! You summers of the queer were able to drop your original religion in order to chose the muslim one. People like you, who spread anger among people, don't deserve any attention nor no compliments at all whatsoever!

ILIR LIKA		15-Jan-2007 11:05
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HEY YOU SERBS YOU MOTHER FUCKERS YOU LOST MONTENEGRO YOU LOST KOSOVA YOU GOING TO LOST SOON OR LATER WITHIN 5 YEARS EVEN VOJVODINA BUT ANYWAY I DONT CARE IF YOU LOST VOJVODINA OR YOU KEEP IT THE MOST HAPPY TIMES ON MY LIFE WERE WHEN YOU LOST MONTENEGRO AND KOSOVA IS GETTING INDEPEDENT SOON EARLY THIS YEAR SO WE DIDI FUCK YOU UP IN A BIG TIME YOU FILTHY SERBS HA HA HA HA LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA DETH TO SERB NATION PIG NATION ALL YOU SERB EAT NOW ALBANIAN SHIT AND MONTENEGRIAN SHIT NO SEA NOTHING YOU SERBS HAVE ANY MORE THE MOST POOREST COUNTRY IN BALAKN ON KOSOVAN FAMILY IN KOSOVA I MEAN ONE ALBANIAN FAMILY THE INCOME THEY HAVE NOW THEY CAN FEED FUCK OR BUY 10 SERB HOUSES IN SERBIA HA HA HA HA WE RAE ILLYRIAN STONE BELONG TO THEIR ON LAND

Guest		13-Jan-2007 21:21
Listen "hrvatski vitez", your comments only show us what kind of person u are and how high your IQ must be. You really think you are messing up with the serbs and provocating? You're just showin' your stupidity, trust me, they don't give a shit about people like u. Get a life and stop being a shame for your entire nation.

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		13-Jan-2007 14:51
yea idi u beograd i zahvaljivaj cetnicima za srebrenicu glupaca, i znas sta oni bi to opet radili

bosniangirl		11-Jan-2007 20:39
ima da te sram bude "hrvatski vitez" jer kao prvo treba te fakat netko spustit na zemlju i tebi prosvjetlit pamet a ne nekom drugom.....toliko od mene ja ne vrijedam niti ne zelim samo govorim istinu

bosniangirl		11-Jan-2007 20:34
ljudi moji ma kakva su to prepucavanja?bez obzira sto je rat bio ja nemam protiv nikog nista i voljela bi otici u beograd jer moja drugarica kaze da necu pozalit...=)) eto cim skupim para dovoljno idem za prve ferije u beograd!! pozdrav od mene svima i cijeloj srbiji=)))

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		11-Jan-2007 08:51
hmmm ma jeli cetnik, ti nisi hrvat sta kaze ovo ti si cetnik

CRO		09-Jan-2007 00:56
ja mislim da su srbi i hrvati braca ali to nitko nece vjerovati. Srbi su mnogo sto uradili za hrvatsku i hrvati na primer hrvati i srbi su zajdno branili hrvatski narod od turki (za vrime habsbourga). Iako sam hrvat ja nisam ustasa, imam nekog druga koji ima didu koji mu je bijo u cetnicima, zato ja mislm ta triba razlikovati "ustasizam"i "hrvatstvo" mnogih rvata su bili protiv ustase, ZIVELA JEDNAKOST I MIR setite se kad su hrvati i srbi pivali "lijepa nasa domovino" u centru uzica.

CRO		09-Jan-2007 00:44
prikinite taj animozitet, prema srbima i hrvatima. Beograd je lijep grad i Zagreb je lijep. Ne razumim sto postoji ta mrznja. Ti "vitez" ti si fasista i svi kao sto si ti ne triba postojati. MIR

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		06-Jan-2007 02:37
ja sam samo ovdje da ja zajbavam vas, i ja n rezumijem tvoj cetnik rjecovi

Irena		03-Jan-2007 22:33
Hrvatski vitez? Zar je Hrvatska ikada pre Tudjmana i Nemacke pomoci (Danke Deutschland la-la-la) imala drzavnost? Decko kada budes imao istoriju svoje zemlje, kao samostalne drzave, dugu 1000 godina, kraljevsku krunu sa krstom, a ne sahovnicu sa kozama, na svojoj zastavi, mocices da govoris o Srbiji. tolike o proslosti. A sto se tice buducnosti , pa Beograd je zajedno sa Londonom i Parizom proglasen za grad buducnosti Evrope, o Zagrebu ni reci! I da , to sto si ti stalno na ovom sajtu , znaci da si opsednut nama Srbima, jer ja nikada ne bih posecivala neki Hrvatski sajt, jednostavno to nije moje i ne interesuje me. Zato oladi malo!

hrvatski vitez iza konjic		31-Dec-2006 02:19
hahhah u visit and love the country that burnt your people alive, looks to me through people like your that titos propoganda is still prospering and dont think that, that last war was the last they will burn your people again and again and again

Antonio		29-Dec-2006 11:47
The pictures are really nice, I am really looking forward to go to Belgrade in one month. I haven't been there for the last 10 years and the pictures are proof of positive changes that Serbia is passing through. Regards to the author and all contributors. Needless to say, but the site defenitelly do not deserve bursts of nationalism and hate. Regards from Macedonia and all the best in Year 2007

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		24-Dec-2006 23:00
SRETAN BOZIC CETNICI (25/1206) NEK TI BOG PROSVJETLI PAMET

dardania		23-Dec-2006 01:10
you serbs are the basterds left over by stalin in the balkans you are bists that feed on blood may god have some mercy up on you

HRVATSKI VITEZ IZA KONJIC		01-Dec-2006 21:36
hahahahahah to bad tou cant call your - our beautiful country bcoz your country is so dirty and ugly thats because rats live in there

Dejan		30-Nov-2006 17:02
Vidi Vidi skupila se fasisticka decurlija... hajde slepci brisite u tu vasu lepu...

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		28-Nov-2006 12:43
vukovi hahahahha popusi mi kurac sada da je tvoj mater ralila to hahahahah we cried hahahah yous ran over your own people running like picke to banja luka and banja luka was ready to fall like knin we anialated yous in the war yous were mass defeated and now was yous like to only talk about what happened in the war during 91 when were were defending our families with hunting rifles hahahah thats so weak so so weak just a nice sterio type of a small small cetnik

stefan_serb		21-Nov-2006 23:51
www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/belgrade_2006 Not like this stupid gallery

Vlad		20-Nov-2006 20:26
my best greetings to our orthodox serb brothers

jelena		14-Nov-2006 20:11
ljudi nadjite pametnija posla od ovog prepucavanja

Vukovi		10-Nov-2006 13:45
Ustasha I got your IP address I can find where you live! I recommend you to stop posting comments on this web site. P.S Your Croatians cried like a little baby while we blow the shit out of you. I enjoyed every second of it. Albanians are better worriers than you USTASHKE PICKE.

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		18-Oct-2006 09:35
hahahahhah what a dumb cetnik ratko lol mladic only if u were him lol id tell you that he more brainwashed than hitler was you dumb piece of shit actually u can come a watch as your mum sucks my dick and your best friend fucks her in the cunt and your sisters are get rammed by my friends and your brother in law ramming your mum in the ass coz hes a peder you piece of shit go rap more women you deperate dickhead just bcoz u cant get shit ZIVILA HRVATSKI NEKI TI DRAGI BOG PROSVIJETLI PAMET VI GLUPI CETNICI ZIVILA BOG I HRVATI I HVO and once again we will smash your small small small army then yous will beg russsia your bitch to come save your asses but aour germans will come n help us smash the russians like liitle rats

ratko mladic		17-Oct-2006 04:57
hey ustasa,you dont even now how to write on english language,so please stop to even watch this site,mammicu ti jebem smrdljivu u picku,gade jedan ljigavi,zivela srbij,smrt ustasama

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		04-Oct-2006 11:56
yea you sick cunt jebem ti mater to lol i was there to ive got photos of it lol especially that fat cunt chetnik wiothout the shit crazt cunt lol he charging at like 200 cros lol crazy im just thinking were goin to smash you lol but yea oi i must admit it is a bit of fun aye you know while your young aye dont you recon then the media make us look like barbarians but yea i hope one day another one happens for a bit of fun again lol one thing we can agree on it that no one has the fights like we do lol mad example is us n the greeks remember the melb nights game that was hectik but yea hopefully one day ill see you on the battle field that should be fun but you got to admit we smashed yous at our home game but for the parra one nothing happen really coz the cops were inbetween us to much but yea i unfortunantly wasnt there i was at paintball but yea cetnik ZA DOM SPRMINI BOG I HRVATI I HVO

Serb Arkan's tiger		04-Oct-2006 03:07
Weak ustasha, Good call on the mum come backs, and wach what you say KID, or you might just see me, Coz I live in liverpool, All you wanna do is fight now i must have pissed you off , Kako volim, Remember the serb vs cro soccer game I was there, and will be going agian, if we play

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		03-Oct-2006 11:33
YEA AND YOUR KRALJ PETAR WAS GERMAN YOU SAD CUNT SO SUCH ON THOSE APPLES YOU FAT CUNT so really yous are just germans

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		03-Oct-2006 08:14
hahahahha do you know how much shit you just talked it makes me that that you have 2 mouths one on your face and another one on you arse everything you said is the total opposite to the truth as you serbs do mix up history and make your own anyways i live in ydney if you want me and my USTASA mates can meet up with you and we can have a talk you weak weak serb piece of shit and the only thing i loved is watching your mum give me the maddest head job and i also remember cumming in her dirty cunt which makes me think you might me my son called ustaske and your middle man is im a faggot of a serb and yea that reminds me tell you mum i left her some change to feed you and her self so sahe can go buy some bread but yea i live in sydney lets have the good old USTASE vs the small small cetniks

Serb_tiger		03-Oct-2006 06:32
U dumb ustasha, your race is not that old, As i said you are left over scum from the austo hugarians so you can't count that as croatia, King tom was serb maybe you should do some reserch for your self , YOUR JUST PISSED OF CUZ YOU SPEEK SERBIAN, KING TOM IS SERB, YOUR MUM'S A SLUT AND YOU LOVE TITO, No such language as Croatian you and the rest of YUGO speek serb remember, It not to do with religon croation are broght up from a young age and you perents teach you to HATE serbs it's ok You don't know better, this is such and intresting conversation, HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC you must hate your life, You are the biggest dead shit i have ever seen to come to a Serbian based web site and speek shit, Like how much you love tito and hitler and how red you soul is , That ok with me, cros are envus all way;s have bin and alway will be , Just exsept it and move on,

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		02-Oct-2006 09:33
what KRALJ TOMISLAV a serb well if that was the case then would the country be call serbian but hey it wasnt i wound why hmm maybe because he was CROATIAN well the one for you a nice simple answer our race begun before yous in the 6th century and yous did in the 7th ok i really you think need to be educated in simple history i been even in the national library in serbia would have that in there history books lol and do you like apples, also were did CHRISTIANITY originate from well the obvious answer is in rome italy ok and now serbs say orthodox is the original well let me see catholisism is in rome and orthodox capital is in greece so theres that the originaltiy is in rome hence catholisism but anyways no really big pint becasue we believe in the same GOD same faith isuse cristi so there you go how do you like those apples

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		02-Oct-2006 09:25
Hmmmm does your vjera teach you to talk like that and hey just seeing you talk like that it must mean that you believe in the kurac shit that milosevic was propangdering hmm and also must mean that your as brain washed as a muslim is about there faith all i got to say is your a dumb piece of serbs shit your race is for the tip lol a mad example of that is when the ottoman hung a mad shit on your country and started cutting heads and balls of the serbs and we through the goodness of our hearts let yous into our country then yous back stab us and ally with the turks to kill us hmmmmm now that quite dirty a awesome example of how dirty serbs are LOOK YOU ARE BRAIN WASHED UN WASH IT and hey for the record the most recent war if it wasnt for the americans telling us in banja luka to stop there wouldnt be any serbs in bosnia yoour dumb shit everyone in the world says it even your own people but still the brain washedness to to much for the most of you

Serb_tiger		02-Oct-2006 03:30
You cors are just pissed off cuz King Tom is a Serb That Must hert, peche oooo kako volim samo nek ustashe gore jebo vas hitler Face Facts you just leftover scum from the Austo_hungarian empier Sell out fucks and balije are left over scum from the otaman empier Serbs are the 1 true race that has the right to claim the bulkans, Albos can eat a dick too Long live the serbian chetniks and srpska pravoslavna crkva

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		02-Oct-2006 02:45
yea your alright aleks yea well ill tell you one thing theres a cro saying in bosnia but im from hercegovina but yea umm that over the table the serbs are your best friends but under the table they are like pig trying to steal everything you have ok i know that sounds bad but hear this out my grandfather was best friends with a serb right they use to fight together against anyone n all that and one day he got robbed next few weeks or months later it happens to be the serbs that he was like brothers with and the funny thing is that only one of the stories i have for you seriously i could tell you about another 10-20 honestly but yea it just come to me that i just simply cant trust them as it also has happened to me but yea but thats only in bosnia which i hate call it that since it is croatian land since a few centuries before the ottoman invasion hence at which why there is so many serbs in bosnia because we let them in so the turks dont slaughter them but yea you sound laright i can see by the way your talking to me your portraying some beautiful catholic values well even if your not it still is the case but yea maybe one day you can visit hercegovina that is the most beautiful of all croatia lol not being biased at all lol but yea medugorije which is there just touches your heart and also at the beauty hey did you know that when the serbs tried to bomb medugorije with missiles that the mislies wouldnt fire they tried this a lot of times but every time it wouldnt shoot then when they went to shoot at a different target they would fire dont you that thats a miricle but yea enough talking

Alek		01-Oct-2006 12:02
@ HRVATSKI vitez: Ej I'm glad to see, that you are not so bad as you seemed in your first comment. Yeah of course it is not easy to be friendly with the ones you^ve been in war with. But I think if you make the first step also to the Milosevic-people you will allways winn, because perhaps they will speak bad about you further or they will also chnage their minds. So if you write something positive about Belgrade on zhis page, they will not have a reason to speak bad about Croatian. I also have to say, that on this page Belgrade looks a bit grey, I think the pictures were taken in Jnuary or so. But I was there in summer and it's a real nice city, and I didn't meet not one Serbian who was in fafour with Milosevic! Perhaps you could create a site about Zagreb also very nice, but completely other type of a city more Austrian influence is the matter I think...And yes your English is not bad I just thought it was a bit a over-negative comment from you and so if you write such a bad word as asshole, it should be written right...

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		30-Sep-2006 23:37
hmmm reasonable and a very good comments to do quite accept that and yes you are right but still what i said was true then thought it doesnt sound very nice but see im only like this with the serbs that still believe in milosevics propoganda so yea but yea lol nice to see you point me out with my english but theres no reason to im quite sure you still understood what i meant

Alek		30-Sep-2006 12:51
Hey you Croatian. I think this page is not decidated to you. And pleas firt learn English! It's asshole not arshole! I think in this point Serbs are much more progressive than you are. And I allways thoght that Croatian people are friendly but I think you are the badest example for your people and your state! You should think about what an oppinon will a Swiss as I am have from Croatian people if they all talk so bad as you do?! I think God should help you to become a better person and that you are lucky with yourself and that you don't have to speak so bad about other people! I hope you'll change your mind otherweise the hell awaits you. And as a Croatian and as a Catholic you should know that very well!

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		25-Sep-2006 07:38
stefan serb you are a piece of big very big shit you talk about serbia if it was as beautiful as HRVATSKA but do you know what serbia is the arsehole end of europe thats why yous want croatian land so badly because yous are sick and tired of waking up and seeing a dead no-mans land of a country as i said the arsehole end of europe while HRVATSKA has the face of adrianna lima hence thats why yous want to wake up every morning and want to shoot yourselfs in the dumb head of yours by just looking at these serb pictures makes me sick to the stomach of how uterly ugly and filthy the country is i would be suprised to see shit skid marks on your flag at the city hall such a grey country so dull and pathetic : ) hahahahah losers

HVO HERCEG-BOSNA		21-Sep-2006 13:43
hello chetniks heres a story for you back in the days while the war was going on i remember with all the chetnik prisoners that we captured me and my group would make them kiss photos of the USTASA sign and a photo of FRANJO TUDMAN and ANTE PAVELIC lol it was seriously one of the most funny things yous would have ever seen just to see there faces when they were kissing the sign and photos lol then one guy i remember spat at the photo of pavelic and then we gave him food which had laxatives in it then when he hang a shit we put his face in it lol i think he actually got some in his mouth the stupid chetnik then 1 week later we told him to kiss the photo of PAVELIC and then lol and this time he kissed it as if he was kissing his wife for the last time lol

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		21-Sep-2006 09:00
correction i made a spelling mistake since im bad with my english well i meant to say tudman didnt kill the serbs and how can you say we killed yous out of your homes look at banja luka for example dont be so ignorant through milosevic the serbs in dalmacija got paranoid and started shoting at the hrvati ok any how yous started the war when we claimed independance so you know what in places the croats kicked yous out of your house well its your own faults yous started the war and yous were trying tto do it to us so tough luck we were stronger and held out until we got real weapons instead of hunting rifles and absolutly defeated your army and so u will then say america helped us but then ill say if it wasnt for america yous would be in bih and we would have take our territory back bcoz if u would like to remember we were going to take back trebinje and banja luka after oluja so there you go as simple as that and u know what the only reason why so many serb citizens were killed is bcoz of the muslims not us since we were defeating our own civilians and also i think you watch to much serbs propaganda tv lol in your parliament yous even have a hrvatica and yous refer her to uskaska lol see how dumb yous are far out seriously and then again the " republica srpska threathens hrvatska of another war if yous started another one yous would have been cleaned out once and for all its like yous just want to get smashed over and over again pfffftttttttt lol hahhahahh fix your selfs up until yous can actually start threatening us again coz if you start another one it would finish as fast as ur war with slovenia did lol just 1 week of using the mob in bih of the srbi

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		20-Sep-2006 09:26
hey ill tell u one think that you wont have anything to say back to number one i think you believe milosevics crpa to much because now stupid do you have to be to believe him and 2 in the times of fighting the turks after we CROATS are helping yous to liberate your country yous back stab us and ally with the turks dnt start with me about history the only reason why there is serbs in bih cause we lets yous in but yous had to help defend the country and guess what that doesnt mean bih is your now it still is our you could say we just saved your arses from becoming muslim or dying any how you started the war hence when you start wars people die and also tudman did what he had to do he did murder people dnt be so uneducated to think such bullshit any how since yous started the war and raping n massacring people i guees people are going to try kill yous to but any ways im sorry to hear you lost friends as also i can tell you the same

fix		20-Sep-2006 03:17
hmm croatians have franjo tudjman as a national hero. and he is widly known as a murderer and a war criminal. He only didnt get that "honor" because he died right after the war, and what did croatians do, in dubrovnik you raised a bridge in his honor. and statues to every person that killed thousands of serbs. If serbs did not have arkan they would have done nothing in this war but get persecuted for beeing a serb and pushed out of their homes. You need to learn some history before you come speak here i lost friends and family in this war and they were nothing but civilians i lost my house on the croatian coast. I dont like arkan btw but understand they serbs that lost close family members, hes they onle one that could have avenged them at least in a small way.

HRVATSKI Vitez iza KONJIC		11-Sep-2006 05:51
ohhhh heres another one of the 10000000000 sramote for the serbs ok yous say yous fight for justice and peace ok so here it is to you that the person yous see as the next sveti sava of kosovo tvoj arkan, did yous know that when he entered vukovar hospital he went up to 150 hrvati and killed them with one single bullet each in the head ohhh not to mention that was only amount for the children hmmmm wat about the women and the men. ohhhh and also heres another one for arkans plate of murdering even so his own people, some time ago on your tv it was showing a tribute to arkan and there was a host talkin to arkans wife and they allowed callers to talk to arkans wife then there was one caller that asked to show her braclet on the tv and then asked her if inside the braclet it said " i love you with all my heart" and arkans wife said yes how did you know, then this women said ohhh arkan stole that off me after he raped and beat me and also after he shoot my husband in the head !!!!! there you go your beloved arkan killing a lot of children but then again stealing like a pig from under the HRVATSKI table eating our scraps while oinking yet butchering his own people what a fucking piece of shit then yous are proud that yous are serb and of him seriously if i was serb i would be so ashamed to say that i was one and say that i was whatever country i was living in currently. but its ok im still praying that one day yous will find some brains which again if yous do yous would probably steal it from us like yous do everything else. but any ways not to say theres no good serbs but this is directed at the serbs own are still brainwashed just as bad as muslims are about the milosevic propoganda about kranija region or wateve the only reason why yous are in our herceg bosna is becoz we lets yous in to help yous yet yous try to robb us of our land just like in kosovo yous got robbed seriously think for a bit we helped yous yet yous keep stabbing us in the back just also like when liberated your lands from the turks yet yous ally with them to stabb us in the back ill finish it off with what even one of yous generals said i think his name is nadic but i guess yous know already of how much yous made a sramota of your people of what yous have done. nek te Dragi BOG prosvijetli pamet da mozete ziviti u miru

Goran Cirkovic		05-Sep-2006 11:32
Local guide I am 24, student from Belgrade, so if you want to visit and stay in Belgrade, to see the real atmosphere and soul of Belgrade, just call me and I would show you all what you should see: Belgrade monuments and night life which is one of the best in Europe. I have visited Paris, Barcelona, Rome and Amsterdam and I am sure that you cannot find the amusing like this in Belgrade. Serbian students are very nice and extremely cool people! So, when you come to Belgrade, just call me, I will have a time to show you where are the cheapest hostels or where you should rent a room, where to eat and all other things... My e-mail is gorancirkovic@yahoo.com See you, Goran

sandrine		09-Aug-2006 09:45
Is there anything else that I schould know before I go to Belgrade? Thanks Sandrine

Guest		09-Aug-2006 09:43
Hello I'm french and I living in germany, Berlin: I'd like to go for a few days to Bergrade in dezembrary. Can anybody tell me where I'can go to sleep (cheap and in Center from Town). Can you give me tips... Thank you for your Help Sandrine

Guest		23-Jul-2006 20:55
Sasa, Evo dolazim tamo sutra, ostacu mesec dana, od 24od Jula do 24og Avgusta. Naj vise cu biti u selo ali putuvacu do Beograda. Zao mi je da ne cu ti videti, ali jebiga, ti kazes da ne mozemo da se slazimo, i zato necu da ti vidim.... Ajde budi pozdravljan brate. Stef.

Guest		12-Jul-2006 19:42
whoops, mistake... By 53% population I meant the Serbian population is the majority over 53% of the land of BiH: Regards; Stefan CCCC

Guest		12-Jul-2006 19:39
Serbs are majority in North Kosovo and in West and NorthWest Montenegro in the regions of Pljevlja, Bijelo Polje, Zabljak, not to mention 53% of Bosnia's population being Serbs, is there no speculation that after Kosovo will be given independence that these areas will be able to unite with Serbia? I mean, it is the same thing as Kosovo situation, just based on majority population..... I heard EXIT was excellent, perhaps the best yet, I wish I went.....

lee coleman		11-Jul-2006 20:04
ooooh yes !!! another amazing exit festival under my belt , now back in my beloved london . well done novi sad well done serbia !! totally awesome !! and totally international ( i even meet some germans that wer'nt boring and some croats that didnt think they were hard) in my opinon the best music festival in europe at the moment , i cant wait to go to this guca trumpet festival . hello to all my crazy serb friends , dragan , militza , sava , darmeer , dusan , rico ,etc etc and all the crew from absolute bar and marthas pub see you next year . ( i told you i would post on this forum ha ha ha ah ) lee coleman .......london city .

Kati		10-Jul-2006 14:27
No swearing. That's not nice -_-... ^-^.

Guest		09-Jul-2006 16:38
shut the fuck up you imbecile, you are spamming yourself, you arent visiting anywhere u piece of shit. this forum is dead, screw it from now on, FRANSUSKA ZA SVETSKOG PRVENSTVO.

Guest		08-Jul-2006 22:10
It isn't nice to see the spammings here, well thank you all for your nice information you gave on Serbia and the Balkans the last months. But for me there are still some things remaining and I would be pleased if you would like to discuss them with me. Well, first of all I live in Germany and I will go by train to the Balkan countries starting from the 25th of July (this month!). I will stay several weeks there with two friends, to inform you more in detail it concerns, apart from others, the wonderful cities of Sibiu, Bucharest, Sofia, Ruse, Brasov, Plovdiv and of course Belgrade, just to name a few. We will arrive 8pm in Belgrade and after checking-in in the hotel (Hotel Royal), I thought we may go to Mr Stefan Braun's or the Andergraund, or perhaps to the Akademija rock club... is that a good choice. Could you recommend anything? Well, than we have one full day in Belgrade - I guess it's not much time for Belgrade, but I want to make the best out of it. So how and where should I spend the day in Belgrade what shall I do, whats worth seeing it? I also wanted to plan 2-4 hours within the shopping district... the most important street, as you have posted, is a place to convince ourselves of the Serbian womens' beauty? It would be really nice if you could recommend something to me, because I have seen that Belgrade is a great town and I wanted to enjoy it as much as possible. My kindest regards from Germany and thanks for your advise.... p.s. we are also looking for some nightlife the first day, because we aren't very old (around 20 ^^)

Vlad		08-Jul-2006 18:15
Dear friend, I can help you in what concern Romania. Sibiu is wonderful, it has a german saxon architeture and is also a medieval town. It has many beautiful monuments and the famous Brukenthal Museum. It will become the european cultural capitol in 2007 and it was restructurate, so is also full of pension and hotel where are low costs. Is full of towers and ancietn buildings. The high town has a german style while the low town has an austro-hungarican baroque style. If you want to see more you can visit the web site: www.sibiu.ro Bucharest is beautiful in its old center where it conserve the famous name of "Little Paris"with many building in Liberty style. There you can see the Royal Palace, the Parliament who is the second greatest building of the world after the Pentagon, and it has 10000 rooms. You can visit the Mogosoaia Palaces who was a residence of our former royal family Hohenzollern; Cotroceni Palace who is also the residence of the President. Also the bulevard are very beautiful like Magheru, Dacia etc... You can see also the Antipa Museum who is one of the greatest natural history museum and it need 4 hours to be visited. You can visit also the Ateneul Roman and Victoria Palace who is near the Antipa Museum. Brasov is the most beautful town. It is s Sibiu more great. You can visit there the wonderful old center and the medieval citadel of Rasnov where you can arrive by telecabe bye

Guest		08-Jul-2006 18:05
Wimbledon mens doubles runner-up was a Serb :-) guest, go and see the Saint Sava Cathedral in Vracar, then go down past Trg Slavija down Kralja Milana Street to Terazije, then up to the Parliament, City Hall and St Mark's Church, then come back to Terazije and go down Knez Mihailova Street (main shopping street - trust me you will not be disappointed with the local talent :-) - on this street is Republic Square, Student Square - then into Kalemegdan, a huge fortress with a zoo, gardens, excellent views over the confluence of the Danube and Sava Rivers, a huge military museum with vast collections of military hradware from throughout the 19th and mainly 20th centuries. there are many historical sites such as the Roman Well and various chapels and fortifications within the Kalemegdan walls. in the evening go to any nightclubs, they are all excellent (well, all the ones i went to) and if u have the chance go to Skadarlija for loads of lovely restaurants on a beautiful Bohemian cobbled street, or perhaps on the opposite side of the River Sava on some floating nightclubs and restaurants. It's all gd in Belgrade, you will not want to leave, ask the locals if this does not fill sufficient time, it should though. regards; stefan

Guest		05-Jul-2006 20:58
France v Italy final. Will be UNMISSABLE. VIVA LA FRANCE!!!!!!!!

Guest		01-Jul-2006 21:07
France just beat Brazil, I knew they would, I am supporting them after Serbia's absymal performance, France is my second Motherland and they will win the whole cup!! Long Live Serbia and France.

Guest		01-Jul-2006 14:58
Wow, this forum has gone dead for the first time in at least a year lol. Na sred gore Romanije means: On the centre of the hill (mountain) Romanije. It has nothing to do with Romania, Romania in serbian is RUmunija. Where has Alex gone? See how as soon as we stop discussing politics it immediately becomes boring. I am truly ashamed of the Serbian players and fans in the World Cup and if that is there attitude then fuck them. Puno pozdrav, cao.

IlijaCvorovic		27-Jun-2006 12:53
I can't believe how many idiots visit this website just to post few profanities in bad English. So, instead of saying something meaningfull about the city of Belgrade, they go back and forth with insults. I see some people just can't get over that fact that Belgrade is a far bigger, better, and more beautiful city than Zagreb in this case. Keep crying, ... I mean posting.

Vlad		23-Jun-2006 17:13
I heard a song of a serb band called Cetnicks. The title is "na sred gore Romanije" what's meaning?

Vlad		23-Jun-2006 10:02
Stop now with these insults. This forum show to be very very beautiful when we reason in civil kind. Slovak are you from Kosice? I have been there.

slovak		22-Jun-2006 23:21
Ante I was in your country, really the only good side about it is the beautiful sea, nothing else, he mainland of your county suck, I'm not here to defend Serbia and Serbs, but its much nicer there, the people are friendlyer, the economic situation is a bit worse than in Croatia, but the overall experiance is far better than in your country.. Bye!

Guest		22-Jun-2006 20:52
Croatia are also out of the World Cup, I won't sink to their level, I won't rub it in, they had a fairly tough group, but they shouldn't have got 2 players sent off. I wanted Cro to do well, I like any Balkan teams to do well, except Albania, because they are stealing wht is not theirs. Regards; Stefan Serb.

Vlad		22-Jun-2006 08:25
Ante, if you want so much that I go to Serbia to see that situation, I will satisfy you. I will go there this summer to meet some serbs friends of Negotin, and I will stay there a week. After if you want so much to have my impressions, I will say you. Are you happy now? In anycase I don't heard about conflicts between our two communities in Serbia, also because I don't heard about intetnions of autonomy or independence asked by our brothers of there. This would meaning that if they respect the autority of that State, they live in peace with serbs. So if you are so sure about these eventual conflict I ask you to show it with concret things.

Ante		22-Jun-2006 07:54
To Vlado, if you want I stop to offend s...., for me is ok because we haven't anymore contacts with them, only is very sad to see your real illusion to think That they are your historical friend. They are orthodox like you but this not meaning nothing. I repeat my invitation: go to S..... and see with your eyes how live your brothers there. Of course you have nothing against them but they have more against you because you are in their eyes a danger. Maybe in Romania s.... are treated with regard because you may have a different concept of life and convivence than them, but you can be sure that in S..... they have a total opposite interpretation of that. The fact talk, this is the reason because I'm so sure about what I say. Go there, and maybe the reality will do what I can't: to open your eyes. Stefan, you will happy to see me speaking with a s...., you are lucky because it is one of the few dates that I accept to do it. I thank you for admit that Croatia is a great power in this region. Croatia is stronger month after month and really I glad to see that you admit it. But if I must say some words about you, you are the first example of the reason that caused the death of your Country. S... are like you. You are all proud to be s... only when you win and when you lost you are the first who cry and insult yourselves. In Croatia not exist people as you. The pride is the opposite of your ideas. ZIVILA HRVATSKA!

Guest		21-Jun-2006 21:20
Ivory Coast 3 : 2 Serbia HAHAHAHHAHAHA GOOD!! They couldn't have illustrated my point any better if I personally went and asked every player to play badly. FUCK SERBIAAAAA

Guest		21-Jun-2006 19:35
He chanted anti-Serb slogans which Croats always have chanted, but when we turn up on their doorstep with tanks etc so they can kill us, they shit their pants and cry. He said: long live Croatia, the only good Serb is a dead Serb, long live ante gotovina, saviour/protector of the motherland, our hero bla bla bla..... The usual crap they chant, I'm surprised he didn't say Srbe na Vrbe, meaning Serbs hung on the Willow trees. But when we arrived in Vukovar which is full of trees not one Serb was hanging on them after we reduced the town to ash. Cao.

Vlad		21-Jun-2006 16:46
Ante, what's mean your sentences in serbo-croatians? If you really respect me and anothers who don't know your language you must speak english, and however you also if you are full of hate against serbs I understand it but you can do it also in civil kinds. also if you want speak abut politic things and about your hate you can make good civil reasonament without to give non-sense insults. You said that you are my friend but Stefan showed more respect for me than you, because he continue to speak in english not in your common language who I can't understand.

Guest		21-Jun-2006 16:33
Vlad, It is impossible to avoid politics, it affects every aspect of the World, everything. Before it didn't matter in 3 things; family, friendship and politeness (general decency such as good manners and civilized actions). However, now families never speak to one another again because of which political party they support, same with friends, this means that if someone supports a different political view to someone, politeness towards that person is rare/non-existant. Politics runs everything, therefore it cannot be avoided. Ante, Your English is good. You are right, we are enemies and can never be friends, I feel sorry for those who have a parent who is a Serb, then another parent who is a Croat/Muslim, they must feel so bad. I think Croatia is beautiful as a country, and the general mentality of Croats is superior to that of Serbs. They are not as lazy as us, they are not quite a worker-peoples like the Slovenians but they are certainly hardworking (most of them). They knew what they wanted, they did whatever they had to do to get it, I respect that. If that means singing Danke Deautchland, sing all you want, but Hrvatska is soon to be bigger than Serbia. Yes Argentina did batter us, and I swallow any stick you give us for it, because we deserve it 1000000%. If there is another Balkan war, there will be Hrvatska do Drine and there will be Srbija do Beogradski Pasaluku. Cao.

Vlad		21-Jun-2006 13:21
I believe that now is the time to stop to speak about politic, it make only hate and insults here. This forum is about Belgrade, I think that is better to speak about it and another places of our region. Ante, if you want to speak about Belgrade and Zagreb as towns will be a good thing but if we must to continue only to speak about politics we will finish only to insults ourselves.

rtdDOrtd-a		21-Jun-2006 12:39
Alo retardi napravite forum pa pricajte toliko ima besplatnih, ovako samo mracite glupim raspravama ljude koji hoce da pogledaju neke slike o Beogradu, kad vide vase retardirane rasprave to moze samo da ih obeshrabri da posete nas lep grad.. Prevedite ostatku retardinjosa koji ne razumeju...!

Vlad		21-Jun-2006 11:47
Ante, first I ask you to speak in english because I don't understand serbo.croatian language. Second: I?m 23 and I don't need to have somebody to open my eyes. I also like croat valours and I said that before. I also thank you for the friendership that you acoord me, but I'm not an illuse and I'm free to like what I want. In anycase I don't know the realtions between serbs and romanians in serb Banat or in Vojvodina but I don't heard until now about fights beween us. I know very well in eomanian Banat that our two communities live in peace and harmony. Cheers

Ante		21-Jun-2006 11:23
ZIVIO ANTE GOTOVINA! ZIVJELA NAM VJECNA HRVATSKA! ZIVIO NAS GENERAL! HEROJ DOMOVINSKOG RATA!

Ante		21-Jun-2006 11:11
NEK SE SLOZE GRLA BRATSKA ZIVILA HRVATSKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ante		21-Jun-2006 11:07
SAMO MRTAV SRB JE DOBAR SRB ZIVILA ARGENTINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ante		21-Jun-2006 11:05
To Vlad: my Kameraten, I like very much yout intelligence and your culture, you have great valours and you are also a great right radical. But you have a great problem: you like too much s.... How you can say me to love them ? How you can think that our two pwoples can live together? We are like the day and the night, we can't meet. Croats ans s....., can't be friends, you don't know how happende between us. You can't see in Croatia never who remember S....., because we consider them a dark point on our east border. Isn't true that a croat right radical is teh same of a s.... right radical, because they weren't our alliate in WW2. Ustashe and Iron Guard were alliate, but chetniks were only monarchists. So a croat and a romanian right radical are the same because they love only their Fatherlands while s....right radicals are chetniks and love only their Sovereign. They have a different concept of right radical. You really believe that they are you rhistorical friends? Illusion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are enemy with all the peoples who are near them, they are our enemy and also you enemy! How can I explain that!!!! When you want to open you reyes and to understand that they aren't common points with you? I suggest you a thing: go to S..... and see how they treate your brothers there. YOu can be sure that they hate you in the same kind that they hate hungarians, croats, bulgarians, slovaks etc.... Forget them. Listen to me, you are my friend and I thank you for the beautiful words that you said about us. I thank you that you like our life style and I also like your. I also like your Iron Guard teachment with important men like Codreanu, Antonescu, Sima. And a real friend a real Kameraten must help another kameraten. If I see you with the illusion that s...... are good and are your historical friends, I must open your eyes, this meaning to be real kameraten and also if you see on me something who are wrong you must do the same. See these web sites: www.croatian-versand.de crnalegijabj.blog.hr -------------CRNA LEGIJA-------------- ZA DOM SPREMNI!!!!!!!!!!! ZIVILA HRVATSKA!!!!!!!!!

Vlad		20-Jun-2006 21:49
Stefan, in what concern right radical in anycase this not meaning that I like croats more than serbs, because also you serbs have right radicals organizations like SRPSKI OBRAZ who really is composed by courageous yuongs who few months ago try to enter in Kosovo for defend with weapons your brothers who live there. So a croat right radical is the same of a serb right radical in my eyes. I like the patriottism of croats and certainly they were able to mantain the power of Former Yu, and also its economical standards with a medium wage of 700 euro. But in anycase croats have also an attitude that I hate very much: they don't want to understand that they must finish to hate you and that they must understand that while you sewrbs are their blood brothers, americans are the real enemy of Euriope and Balkans. I like very much the style of croats, by the mentality until their Ultrà style, I like their traditionalism, but I hate their great capacity to hate. My father hate them because he's italian and between Italy and Croatia were many conflicts, and I also saw how a croat is able to do when is full of hate, and certainly I also hate Ante Gotovina who killed many serbs in his Oluja. But croats are aninteresting peoples, because they are a real mix between slavs and germans. Croats have a slav blood but they have also a german mentality and the same life style of germans. They are a people across two worlds. They seems me a very closed peoples who don't like to have relations with anothers, and they have a concept of life based on the glory of all is croat like them EXACTLY LIKE GERMANS. They speak your same language but they have a german architeture in their towns. The colours of their flag Blue; White and Red are the same of yours like also Slovenia, Slovakia, Russia, because these are the PAN-SLAVIC colours choosed by russian Zar Peter The Great. This meaning that they know in their hearth that they are slavs, but sometimes the give to the worls the impression that they shame themselves to be slavs and prefer to seems germans. In anycase my friend Stefan don't believe that I prefer them to you serbs because as you know we have more common things with you than them, and in anycase I can't like a country only for its right radical moviment, because all european countries have one and this not meaning that all european countries are good (see for example England). If I must to like a country for its right radical moviments I can like Serbia also because it has also its own right radical party. IF YOU WAN TO KNOW MY POINT OF VIEW I LIKE MORE SESELJ THAN CROAT "HDZ".

Guest		20-Jun-2006 21:12
Yes Vlad, you are right the Croatian Army increased in size and strength immensly from the start of the war to the end, but still they were no where near as strong as the JNA. Because as much as they try to hide it when exchanging insults over the internet they are scared shitless of Serbs. When they imagine a Chetnik in a tank with a long beard and serbian flag they look down and they've pissed themselves. Milan Babic is a traitor of all Serbs, Milosevic didn't want a Greater Serbia, because he knew this was not possible, and it was a primitive idea that would never fly with the US and the West. Rather he wanted to halt the total independence of Croatia and create a Serbian autonomy in Krajina and West Slavonia. Milan Babic didn't listen, he refused to negociate, and in the end we got nothing. Why should Milosevic send his JNA troops to die for an impossible cause? That's bullshit, so he severed ties from Knin, I was shouting for him to do that for ages before he finally did. After this the VSK Serbs were still strong, very strong, but by the end of 1995 before Operation Storm they were far less in number, equipment and strength than the Croat Army. But still the Croats were pussies, they didn't invade VSK, instead they begged NATO to bomb ALL of our defences, then they invaded, forced the largest number of refugees out of their homes in the entire war, and then shelled the columns of them killing thousands. I hate to break it to you because you probably like Croats, they have a strong Neo-Nazi movement and the right radical support there is immense. But Croats are slimy, good for nothing pussies. They only attacked civilians fleeing into RS in Bosnia to safety. They are the biggest cowards, not as big cowards as Albanians though. They NEVER defeated us, even in the Second World War they did the same thing, then when we came back they ran to Australia. That is why the Australian National Football Team has like 4 Croats in it. But now they are certainly better than us, everyone on Earth is better. We are worse than Albania if you believe me. But our Special Forces and Police are still too strong. Especially Zandermerija. Red Berets etc. These are even stronger than the SAS, the only reason why this is is because dicipline has been maintained in these special units, where everywhere else with the arrival of democracy it has collapsed. King regards comrade; Cao.

Vlad		20-Jun-2006 19:20
Another episode: in the first days of war, Tudjman send his police in 10 elicopters to fight against serbs of Kraijna who were revolted for the declaration of independence of Croatia. When Belgrade knew Tudjman's intetnions, it send two MIG 21 who quickly arrived near these elicopters and advertised croat police that if they attack serbs civilians of Kraijna they were destroyed. Croats surrendered and choosed to go back. Slovenia also conquest independence thanks to USA and Germany, becaus eif Slovenia fought by itself, JNA certainly defeated it in 3 days. About Bosnia: Milosevic committed a great mistake: he think only to that confllict and forgot that in that period, Croatia the firsts years of its independence did a great militay politic for realize a modern Army. In only few years of peace after its independence Croatia was able to realize a new Army stronger that serbian VOJSKA who in that years remanin with its weapons who also were good but began to be old and less moderns comparate with new army technology. With HV nad HVO the special groups of new croatian army, Zagreb were after only 3 years of independence very different than the poor croatian police of 3 years ago, and Tudjman belove that he was able to fight again the serbs and to take Bosnia who in his words was "The Turkish Croatia". When Tudjman aggressed serbs in Kraijna, HV and HVO had 250000 soldiers against the frew but in anycase corageous 55000 serb soldiers of Kraijna drived by Milan Martic and obviously croats winned in only two days. In Bosnia where until that time serbs were near to win and to defeat the small muslim army of Izetbegovic, the croat invasion stopped the triumphal march of serbs and therefore serbs can only at that time to fortify their conquest zones like Banja Luka, Pale (the capitol), Sanski Most, Zepa who are half of Bosnia. In anycase the army of Karadzic show to be very strong and probabily now is stronger also than serbian Vojska of Belgrade. Mladic can to fight with success the stron new croat army who was supported by NATO. The army of Republika Srpska with its good organization was able to resist against the aggression of a new modern and regular army like Croatia of Tudjman. Therefore serbs of Bosnia in my opinion win and show also a great courage.

Guest		20-Jun-2006 18:48
Alex, You know why the JNA didn't conquer Jugoslavija, and I am not going to waste my time explaining them. Serb hater? lol that is funny. OK I will stop, but I am so damn disappointed in Serbia. Vlad you are right, plus the fact that seperatists shit their pants when they heard the words, "Serbs are on their way" hahahaha. We lost 4 wars (was it that many, I thought it was 2: Yugoslav Wars and the Kosovo Conflict) because the World was against us, they wanted to crush Yugoslavia, the country and Army was too strong to do that manually, so they did it in the sneaky way, from the inside out. They armed Croats man, who else did? Cao.

Vlad		20-Jun-2006 18:12
Alex, JNA was strong. If you remember the first days of the war in 1991, all News Journals said that :"JNA kill today 100 croats separatists, JNA MIG 21 destroyed croat bases, JNA conquer Kraijna, Slavonija etc..." if you remember well, all these things made us sure that Belgrade was near to defeat separatists soldiers. The only thing who helped Croatia and Slovenia was the acknowledgement by USA and Germany. You can be sure tha tif USA and Germany didn't give their help to separatists, JNA win certainly. Also in Bosnia the army of Republika Srpska who had 75000 soldiers was near to victory before that Croatia and NATO choosed to help muslims. You remember when Izetbegovic was desperate and cryed because serbs had conquer villages and towns day by day. Han Pijesak, Banja Luka, Sanski Most, were conquest day by day and CNN said: "moslems fight with kalashinkov, serbs fight with TANKS". Therefore Izetbegovic was so desperate, also because Karadzic adverticed him that if he choose to call th eindependence his peoples wll be killed like an Holocaust. VOJSKA of Republika Srpska was and is drived by generals with experiences and qualities who studied also geopolitic while moslems were drived only by uncivilized Mujaheddins. Therefore how can you see the only thing who permit to Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia to become indepentents was the help of NATO and Germany.

Alex Belgrade		20-Jun-2006 17:47
Stefan, Shut your mouth, you Serb hater. People left Serbia because Milosevic FUCKED IT up for them. As for the JNA, if it was so great, why did it loose 4 wars? For God's sake, it left Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia... surely it could have conquered the whole Yugoslavia, but it didn't. And you know why? Because it was an ideological Army. Not to mention the betrayal of non-Serbian officers, who were at key commanding positions, such as Croatian general Antun Tus, who fled to the other side (Croatia). That Army's only concept was having a war with an outside agressor. Tito made a mistake when he created the Territorial Defence (TO) in each Republic. He practically made 6 armies within an army. Etc. If your Yugoslavia was so good, why did it fall apart like a house of cards? If your JNA could conquer Europe, why did it fail to conquer Yugoslavia, introduce martial law and just shoot all the separatists? And I BEG YOU, PLEASE stop saying that Serbia is shit, that our national symbols are crap and that our Army is shit. This is your country. Please wipe that name SERB from your name. Write STEFAN the YUGOSLAV, so that nobody else is fooled. If you really think like this about Serbia, then I really feel sorry for you. You are miserable. When you do not have anything smart to say, you say insults. I hope God will forgive you for what you are saying about Serbia. Because I am having a hard time. Have we not made a deal? Did we not say that we will not be talking like this? But here you go again. Your words are very insulting. A Serb should not be saying this. You are worse than those Albanians. I really feel sad for you, and I am sure all the Serbs who read your stupid posts. You know, it's one thing for us Serbs to disagree, but when we are presenting ourselves in front of a wide audience of people from all over the world, we should be united about our country. If you continue like this, then I must say I hope God will punish you and shut your mouth.

Guest		20-Jun-2006 16:22
Our Army is shit, we will have ..... number of proffessional soldiers by 2010? HAHAHAHAHAHA, what does it help if they are pussies and have nothing to fight for. They are democratic youths, undiciplined, weak. Every single Serb who fought in any war, even paramilitaries were smarter and better tactitions let alone fighters than anyone else in the World. You know this, you know that if we wanted to, with the JNA we could have conquered half of Europe. It is incomprehensable how strong we were, don't even try and imagine, that is when we were the Daddys, and now we will never be the daddy's again. Back when the Vojska was full of people like me, who don't give a shit, who were trained better than anyone else, this is why the US Anti-terror police are trained by the Serbian anti-terror commanders. We were strong, ruthless and wise, this made us unbeateable, you guys don't believe me, you never saw it, but don't you know that if NATO tried to invade on the ground, as soon as they overstepped our borders fire would reign under their boots. Their equipment would be ash. They would shit their pants when they feel the force of the Serbs, they were all scared anyway, they knew we are fuckers and that if they were caught that they couldn't even imagine what would happen. JNA JNA JNA.

Guest		20-Jun-2006 16:15
People left Serbia because it's shit and their talents go to waste, that is the only loss, those with talent stuck in Serbia. Watch any Hollywood film, in the end credits there is ALWAYS a Serb, usually a producer or technical operator. Alex, you are a joke. Comparing the economic status of Serbia in the years when we were in sanctions and at war to the years when we are liking the West's ass. That is stupid, anyone who licks the West's ass will be better than not. But, now we have no dignity, Serbia won't protect you now my friend, before, if one Serb was killed 1000 of the enemy were killed in return. This is now a political forum, we can't keep talking shit about how great the Balkans is when it is clearly not. We have nice nature and history, but nowadays, it ALL sucks. Army is important and don't make out like the military is pointless, the army you have determines how much power you have. Under Milosevic, militarily, we were unbeateable. But the West's propaganda media machine and politics destroyed us. We are a piece of shit now, no honour and dignity, no pride, just the same as everyone else, except with 1 difference, we are worse than everyone else. Cao.

Vlad		20-Jun-2006 10:48
Certainly now is more important to develope infrastructure, institutions and also the standards of life of Balkan peoples, and you have right to say that is impossbile to stay out and isolated. Our common hope, who certainly is also the hope of Stefan is that the wars are finished, but in anycase if you see also in the environment of NATO the States who are more voices are the States who have also good army. I don't refer to Englad or French who are too strong with theri athoic weapons, but I refer simple to States like Germany , Italy, Turkey and also Poland. How you know, Turkey persecute and kill the Kurds and in that State don't exist human rights. But Turkey has a strong army and therefore it is an important friend of USA who thereofre closed its eyes when Ankara kill the poor Kurds. USA bombed you for the police operation that Serbia did for defend its citizens in Kosovo against UCK aggression and doesn't say nothing to Turkey who kill Kurds. This only because also in the interior of an Alliance, the States who have more voices are the States who have also strong armies. If in NATO Slovenia and Italy will have for example a discussions, which of these two youi believe will take right? Italy of course because have more military importance. The same situation when you will become NATO''s member, if you have discussion with Albania about Kosovo, NATO will give the right only to the State who has more strength in military plan, because it will give more utility to NATO. Therefore certainly we all hoep to don't exist the war, and we all consider the wars the principal problem of Balkans, but also to mantain the peace is important to be also in a Alliance strong.

Alex Belgrade		20-Jun-2006 10:25
Vlad, Unfortunately, we are a small country. Global integrations affect all small countries. You can't have the EU without Nato. I like to say - the ticket is valid for all shows. That means, either Serbia will integrate itself into the Western system - including Nato and the EU, or it will remain poor and isolated. All the countries around us are already in Nato or Partnership for Peace, in the EU or on the way to the EU. Serbia can't remain the only one out of those structures. Personally, we do not need a big army. We can't even feed this one. When we are in Nato and the EU, who will attack us? Hungary? Bulgaria? Albania?? Nobody. So, my friend, you and Stefan need to stop thinking about big armies and wars. We must focus on development, on infrastructure, economy, education, jobs for young people and social security for old people. We must start cooperating with each other and not having wars. I hope that wars in the Balkans are gone forever. Yes, the future will bring a smile on our face. I am already smiling each time I see a Serbian flag in Belgrade. Serbia still has 300,000 refugees who live in very poor conditions. Serbia has 900,000 unemployed, at least 500,000 are actively looking for a job while the rest are in grey economy. Serbia has many invalids of war, who are also very poor. 300,000 educated Serbs have left Serbia in search of a better life. That is a huge loss for Serbia. We need to focus on those issues. I know that nobody wants to tackle these problems. But, these are the REAL issues.

Vlad		19-Jun-2006 22:18
Yes Alex, is right to say that in anycase never Balkan Country can be stronger than West, and probabily you have right to say that Kosovo is lost. But if in anycase Serbia will have that strong Vojska of 400-500000 professionists soldiers, also if NATO will still be stronger, in anycase Serbia will have more power to ask the respect of its citizens who live in Kosovo and Metochia. In BK last day I was very impressed and full of angry when I saw two serbs that I believe were brothers or friends who saw their houses in fire. One of them cry and kissed for the last time his garden and in that moment I 'm also was near to cry. If serbian Vojska will be strong certainly, it has more more respect by NATO and Belgrade will have the power to say with strong words the real respect of serbian rights there. REAL RESPECT NOT THE RESPECT WHO THINK THAT PIG OF SOLANA. My friend, under Ceausescu regime we had an Army with 350000 soldiers, now after our integration in NATO we have only 150000 professionists soldiers, who are still good but we must see americans have their bases in our Fatherland and I can't accept this. Our Army is strong and good but the price that we payed for come in NATO was to give them our ass and to permit them to rule our loved soldiers who now must to died in Iraq for a war who don't interest us. I love more EU than NATO. I'm sure that our two countries will be there together very quickly and between them it will not douane. Therefore I think tha tisn't NATO our future but EU. If Kosov will go away, you can be sure that it will remain miserable because there will rules only UCK MAPHIA while Serbia will receive rivers of EU's money for its development. You can be sure that that day (I'm sure very near) when Serbia will come in EU'S Family, all albanians of Kosovo will cry because they will still live under UCK terrorism who will persecuted also them with its Maphia politic system. Sincerely I hope for Serbia that Kosovo will remain under its sovereignity. But if it will not happen, please don't be sad. Serbia will develope and the future will give again to you the smile. You haven't only enemies, we are your friends for example, like also greeks. Only russians were very bastards to accept the independece of Montenegro. But you must understand that Serbia and serb peoples isn't isolated, because many peoples I believe also in West like you rcourage under NATO's attacks.

Alex Belgrade		19-Jun-2006 22:00
Oh yes, just something else. Stefan, you believe in one man, and now that he is gone, it looks all pointless to you. Men come and go. I believe in SERBIA. I carry St. Sava in my heart. You carry a Godless person. You believe in a man, I believe in SERBIA - it has survived for centuries, it will continue to survive, heal and recover. You have tied the success of Serbia to a political and ideological concept, whereas I have tied it to the centuries of experience and motivation. These are the basic differences between us. You are tied to a man. I am not tied to any man. I am tied to Serbia as something that is our Father and Mother, as something that has been there for centuries, while many Men have come and gone. You tell me to cheer up. I am cheered up. My heart feels warmth and love for Serbia. You are the one who needs to cheer up. Your heart is filled with anger, frustration, you have given up. I am perfectly happy. I am not sure if you are.

Alex Belgrade		19-Jun-2006 21:51
Stefan, Serbia is falling apart, because of Milosevic. You can't see this?? Who withdrew from Kosovo? Djindjic? Or Milosevic? Who lost Krajina? Djindjic? Or Milosevic? Etc. I believe in Serbia. As opposed to you, I see Serbia rising. It's a slow process but THINGS ARE GENERALLY GETTING BETTER and things will be okay. I love Serbia with my every breath. I am sad that you feel this way. You always blame everyone else. You glorify Milosevic and you know what hell we have been through WHILE HE WAS IN CHARGE. And yet you do not see that. Instead, it's always easier to finger point at others. Serbia is rising. Spiritually, morally, traditionally, historically, economically. By 2010, the strategy of the Serbian Government is to have the unemployment rate at 10%. Now it's 26%. The country's reserves are over 6 BILLION dollars now. When Milosevic fell from power, they were only 20 million. 1,000 kilometers of roads have been done in the last year alone. The level of foreign investments is about 1 billion euros per year. None of these things existed during Milosevic's time. Grey economy has been reduced thanks to the VAT. Serbia has started talks with the EU, and has been reaccepted into the UN, OSCE, Council of Europe... Again, that did not exist in Milosevic's era. We have full stores and shops, as opposed to the Milosevic era. The standard of living has increased. In my own personal example, by 6 times, since 2000. Serbia has hosted numerous events which did not happen in Milosevic's era. Not to mention new buses, no problems with electricity and heating... Of course, Serbia got its own historical symbols back, it got its state back - after 88 years we are on the international stage again. So, you see, in all these things I see signs of improvement. And that is why I stayed here, while I could have gone to Canada. I believe in this country and I stayed here. You failed to believe, and you are in England. That is the main difference between us. Serbia shall rise and you shall see. Milosevic was in power for exactly 13 years, from 1987 until 2000. Give the pro-European parties 13 years, and then let's compare Serbia in the 1990s, and Serbia in the 2010s. We all know how we lived in 1993. Call me back in 2013 and let's compare notes. Truce accepted. The sooner we stop talking about politics and Serbia, the better. Let's talk about neutral things. Bye

Alex Belgrade		19-Jun-2006 21:38
Vlad, Our Vojska can't do anything about Kosovo. The moment we would try to get back there, we would be bombed again. Milosevic had a chance - we had 100,000 troops in Kosovo, we were already there. Now we would have to GET BACK in there, before we can start fortifying our positions. That is impossible. Serbia can handle the 3 municipalities in the South. I do not think Serbia is at threat, and Vojvodina will not be like Kosovo, because of different mentalities of the people there. Besides, police forces will take control of the borders, instead of the army forces, and Serbia has a strong police (thanks to Milosevic's police state). I am just telling you what I read in the news - By 2010 Serbia will have a professional army and will be part of Nato. I do not see any threat, because nobody will dare attack a Nato country. But, I see a threat if we stay isolated for ever, against the world. This is Stefan's model. You know the old saying - if you can't beat them, join them. That is my model. My friend, armies are not that necessary now. It's better to invest in new factories, new jobs, new schools, hospitals, churches, than in the Army. When we all have a better life, we will not think so much of politics, of guns, of war. Even with such a small Army Serbia would be able to handle all security threats. Serbia can't handle Nato - Milosevic proved that. So, we must be quiet and join Nato, and try to make normal relations with all countries, and try to fix our bad image in the world - thanks to Milosevic. My friend, countries must accept reality. The reality is that Serbia and Romania will be in the EU. I have plenty of bad things to say about the EU, but simply I accept reality of the world in which we live in. We are small countries and we have to adapt to the big guys. The big guys will not adapt to us. Milosevic thought he could destroy Nato. Ha ha, that's a good joke. In the end, we lost Kosovo and MILOSEVIC WITHDREW. I am not a militant. I am a humanist. Today's wars are fought with information, my friend, with knowledge, much more than with guns. If Serbs had lobbied in the West instead of just sitting on their asses, perhaps we would have been in a better position. But, we didn't do that, and we are viewed as general monsters while Croats, Slovenes, Bosnians, Albanians are all viewed as pretty little saints (which is not true, of course) MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!

Guest		19-Jun-2006 21:33
Vlad, Bravo majstore, you got it all in one. Serbia is screwed forever, we have problems above our head and we are drowning. KISA PADA, SRBIJA RASPADA. THE RAIN IS FALLING, SERBIA IS COLLAPSING. Ok Alex truce, I never said I hated you so there was never a war in my eyes between us, it was funny how the truth wound you up so much man. Relax a bit, forget Serbia, don't put your heart so much in a State that will cease to exist soon enough. If you keep being so patriotic you will only be disappointed, I have learnt this, and although this may sound stupid, when I just watched that 6:0 joke of a game, I realized all this. It is a joke of a country man, you say SPS will never regain power. We'll see, when people see the pussy government we have at the moment are getting nowhere SPS will rise again. Nothing is forever, you should have learnt that looking at Serbia as a whole. NATO would have carpet-bombed our cities? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you are a funny guy!!! You don;t know shit about the military and how it operates. NATO were facing huge problems by "accidentally" killing a few dozen people. If they killed hundreds of thousands of people, trust me brother the World wouldn't stand for it. Where has this ever happened before in 21st Century? There would have been Worldwide rebellions, NATO were having trouble justifying factories as targets such as the Zastava one in Kragujevac which also produced weapons. Carpet bombing would not happen in a thousand years in Europe against civilians and soldiers just defending their own country, this is a ridiculous statement. I give you my word Djindjic said "Bomb it more, they will capitulate eventually if you stay persistant". He was in Germany giving interviews for CNN and BBC. Are these Milosevic's news networks? You didn't answer my question on B92, is it wrong what I said? I would have liked to see you kill me, that would be foolish, I'm glad you have given up on that idea, that would truly be ridiculous, just because I said I hate Chetniks and Boze Pravde because my Deda and his bro were killed along with half my village thanks to them. So fuck the Monarchy and Chetniks, even if they were right to ally themselves with Nazis (don't give me that passage to North Africa crap, the Chetniks were going to surrender Yugoslavia anyway, same like the French did.) Anyway, puno pozdrav, i ako mozes, posalji mi album onaj iz Cece. Jako mi se svidja nasa narodna muzika. Cao.

Vlad		19-Jun-2006 18:00
Excus eme Alex but you saw last day a thing that I can't agree: you said that your Vojska will become an army of 21000 professionists. I believe that also it will be composed only by professionists, they will only few. Serbia actually has an hot situation in Kosovo and Metochia, a situation who can explode in moment by moment, it has an hot situation in Republika Srpska, and also in its own land in zones like Presevo, Medvedja and Bujanovac, and in Vojvodina also if there are less problems and dangers because it has actually a normal situation, people like Canak can profite to Belgrade's problems to ask with more arrogance autonomy. If UCK will begin again to persecute and to kill serbs, if in Presevo UCPMB will become like UCK, if in Republika Srpska will be problems and if in Serbia, Maphia will become more more strong, how Serbian State can to save itself, only with 21000 soldiers? Also if they are good and professionists are in anycase too few. Stefan is right in what concern the importance of Army, because NATO and UCK are arrogant since they know serbian army so in difficoult. If VOJSKA will have 400-500000 professionist soldiers, you can be sure that NATO will not support the independence of Kosovo and certainly in Presevo UCPMB will be defeat. And also In Bosnia eventual plains against serbs will not exist. Serbia is an important State who must now to defend its integrity and its peoples in the another States of Fromer Yu. Will not happen if you will have only 21000 soldiers. Believe to me, Army is the DEFENSOR ANGEL of a State and its peoples.

Alex Belgrade		19-Jun-2006 17:51
STEFAN, Can we make a truce? If we can avoid discussing politics, we could actually learn to communicate. Before we end up killing each other :) Think about that. Stop enforcing your political opinion, and I will stop enforcing mine. And perhaps we can learn to communicate nicely. After all, we are both Serbs and it is wrong for us to fight like this. I want to be your friend, but those words you said about Serbia, Serbs and Boze pravde, hurt me deeply. Perhaps the two Serbias we represent will never find peace among themselves. I went to the Church and prayed that God gives us peace, wisdom and unity, if it is possible at all. Hence, my offer of a truce. I do NOT want to hate you. There are some good qualities in you - however few, haha. :) Let me know. I stand ready for whatever your decision may be.

Alex Belgrade		19-Jun-2006 17:45
CECA'S CONCERT BRINGS 100,000 PEOPLE TO EUPHORIA Serbia's biggest folk diva, Ceca, Arkan's widow, made a smashing concert in New Belgrade. 100,000 fans were there, and the technology was so far not seen on any concert in Serbia. She promoted her new album "Idealno losa" ("Ideally Bad"). I am listening to it right now, it's nice. Not folk at all. It's more pop. Stefan if you like I can send it to you. Bye.

Alex Belgrade		19-Jun-2006 17:42
Vlad, Milosevic was a populist. During his whole political career he was a hardline Communist. Then, when he realised Communism was about to die, that the ideology was worn out, he turned to nationalism. Yes. He said - NOBODY WILL BEAT YOU. Then in 1999 he pulled out of Kosovo. Period. He promised that all Serbs would end up in one state. He introduced sanctions against Bosnian Serbs, and then he left Krajina to Croatia. He promised us so much, and in the end we got nothing. He kept on talking about peace whereas he waged multiple wars. He promised us that we would last 1,000 years under sanctions, that we would have the Swedish standard. He promised us that Russia and its S-300 missiles will help Serbia. In the end, it was all a bunch of bullshit. A bunch of lies. We were withdrawing from Kosovo and he was celebrating victory! Stefan, thank God that there was no land war - I would not like to have Serbia look like another Vietnam. Millions of Serbs would have died. Before the West marched into Serbia, it would have carpet-bombed all our cities, destroyed all our factories and all our infrastructure, turn us back to the Medieval Age. We would not have beat Nato. They would have just scorchedf everything and that would have been the end of Serbia. We should not have gone to war with America in the first place. In any case, Milosevic lost Kosovo. I kid you not. And you are crazy. Just like all the freaking Communists and Radicals. All you guys can think about is war and destruction. You make me sick. Thank God that you will never be in power again. So be as angry as you wish. I don't care. For me, you are a crazy and frustrated person, thus, very dangerous.

Alex Belgrade		19-Jun-2006 17:31
JOKE Why did the Serbian state TV not mention the results of the SCG: Argentina match, which SCG lost by 6 goals? Because Prime Minister Kostunica is refusing to accept the results of the game.

Alex Belgrade		19-Jun-2006 17:30
First of all we do not know that Djindjic said that Serbia should be bombed. I think this was the propaganda of Milosevic's regime. He was a smart, pro-European young Prime Minister, educated, liked by the West, he was full of vision of energy - of a Serbia in the EU. You are happy that he is dead. I am happy that Milosevic is dead. While history will celebrate Djindjic, it will not celebrate Milosevic. History is written by winners, and Communists will never again be winners. Therefore, the future Serbia will remember Djinjic in a good way, and Milosevic in a bad way. You LOSE, once again.

Vlad		19-Jun-2006 17:18
Alex also I believe that that Karic is a populist, this is the impression who gave me on his congress and meetings. The history of Milosevic's family is very well known, I laso know that his wife wear a flower into is hair to remember her mother died under Ustashe's attacks. His son Marko seems me not a bad person, only a confused boy with problems but if is true that he committed all these crimes and that he built Bambi Park under NATO's attacks, certainly this show that he is only a great criminal. His sister seems me pretty and with a great courage when he defend his father when your police captured him that night. Probabily she is the best person of that family. In anycase history will show if Milosevic committted only bad actions or if he did also good things, but a thing is sure HE IS DEAD now. Therefore all the discussions about his good governament is a non sense because the better thing is to see on to see our future. I also had like very much Milosevic in the past when I saw him in Kosovo Polje together millions of SERBIAN PATRIOTS and when an old serb said him: "albanians kill us every day" he answer: "neverybody will touch you in the future", I had cry when i listen that words because I WAS AND I'M TOGETHER SERB INNOCENT PEOPLES WHO SUFFERED AND SUFFER STILL NOW. Alex you must understan that when I saw that old man I saw in that eyes on TV the same eyes of innocence who spoke more than millions of words. That ols man who spoke with Slobo, permit me to understood that serbian peoples can't also with its courage to fight more against a CRIMINAL AND SHIT organization like Uck. On that time I admired Milosevic, but certainly now that you say me about the crimes of him and his family, I reflect much more.

Guest		19-Jun-2006 16:33
Ok Alex, that's all well and good but I don't recall Milosevic in Germany when the bombs fell chanting: "Bomb it to the ground, force them to capitulate" like your hero Djindjic. My cousin told me there would be a hit on him, that rumour was out, two weeks later POW!! The gunshots rang out in my ears and I was informed by my Boss Serbian Opposition Leader and then Prime Minister Djindjic was dead. I leapt forward and hugged my boss I was so happy that fucking traitor was dead. You don't like B92 Alex, but remember that channel is No# 1 supporter of any opposition parties to Milosevic and the Radicals. I like Radicals, it reflects how I act, I am not so diplomatic and smiley as others. Its like if I find an Albanian is sleeping with my girlfriend (just an example - obviously hasn't happened) just like Albanians are taking Kosovo, I get rid of him properly, not kill but almost there. The problem is finished. Not pussyfooting around and lobbying, if all those Serbs who were chanting for Milosevic to send the JNA to Kosovo weren't so fucking weak-willed youths then it would be a different story. And I will guarantee you, NATO would be in disrepair, because eventually even after they bombed so many bridges and hospitals etc and hit NO MILITARY TARGETS they would have to plan an invasion. If they invaded, the Danube would flow red for years to come. It would be worse than Vietnam x 1000000, trust me brothers I shit you not. Cao.

Alex Belgrade		19-Jun-2006 16:13
Continued. As for Marko Milosevic, oh yes. Slobo said that Marko earned an honest living by carrying bottles of beer - ha ha, that is so cute. Marko had owned several expensive raci ng cars - he would shut down highways to have a race, and he crashed most of them. When his Daddy is the all mighty president, I guess he could afford it. He had a gun, a police uniform. He owned the Madonna nightclub in Pozarevac, an internet cafe, a chain of duty free shops at the borders, a perfume store in Belgrade. He is a suspect in a murder case - his own godfather Tref. It is believed that Marko killed him personally. He also tied down one member of Otpor (an anti-Milosevic movement) and he threatened him that he would cut him to pieces with a chainsaw. Etc. Believe me, Marko is a criminal, and you would not want to mess with him. His businesses have been sold out - the Madonna nightclub still works but he does not own it anymore. His perfume store got smashed on October 5, 2000, when Milosevic was toppled from power. Marko made the people very angry when he built the Bamby Land - during Nato agression. That is something people did not forgive him for. Maria - she owned a radio and TV station Kosava, which was hit by Nato. She is now a believer of the so-called Montenegrin Orthodox Church, and a member of the Serbian Radical Party. She lives in Montenegro, and has no communication with her mother and brother. She wanted to bury Slobo in Montenegro, because Slobo originated from there. Slobo's both parents had committed suicide. Imagine that. His father was a priest who committed suicide when he discovered his son turned into a hardline Communist apparatchik. Mira is the worst in the family. A truly dangerous, dictatorial Leninist, a hardline communist. Rumor has it that she is Tito's bastard child. Her own mother - also a communist, was shot by the Communist Party because she allegedly gave in to pressure when the Nazis arrested and tortured her. Trust me, the Milosevic family is one family you do not want to mess with. Mira and Marko live in Moscow, and so does Milosevic's brother Borislav, former Yugoslav ambassador to Russia. They are allegedly protected by the Russian mafia, and they live in the most exclusive part of Moscow. These are all stories that Serbian media have been printing off and on. While Slobo was not as dangarous as Mira, the conclusion is that the entire family is seriously mentally screwed up. Latest gossip about Marko is that he has another woman, and that he is trying to kick his wife, Milica Gajic, out of his home. She, however - made a huge electricity bill which the socialists had to pay for - the bill resulted in heating the huge swimming pool for entertaining her numerous lovers. Marko is furious at her but he can't come to Serbia and kick her out of the house. So, she spends his money, and "entertains" his friends, in his home and his swimming pool. Rumor has it that Marco has a new woman and that they are buying real estate properties in the Dominican Republic. Allegedly, Marko also has the passport of the Dominican Republic. He also possesses several Yugoslav passports (Serbia still does not have its own passports). This is all the information that you can read in tabloids, or hear in the streets. I do not think all of this is true. But, if only 10% of it is true, then it's still bad enough. It's a crazy family, but makes interesting gossip material over a cup of coffee. Cheers!

Alex Belgrade		19-Jun-2006 16:12
Vlad, "Snaga Srbije" means Power of Serbia. Now, about Bogoljub Karic - he is known for holding a lettuce salad and saying that Serbia should not import food. He would hold the chains of a locked down factory and say that he is against it - although that did not seem to bother him during the 1990s. He started as a street musician 20 years ago. Today he is a millionaire, and his gamily owns like 10 mansions and dozens of businesses. But, he got especially rich during the Milosevic era - he was a close family friend of the Red Family (Slobo & Mira). He even sang Russian songs to Milosevic's ear. His words are all about Kosovo, but his mobile phone company made a deal with Ekrem Luka, an Albanian criminal and terrorist from Kosovo. His only interest is money - he wants to be in politics because he wants to legalize many of his businesses. I do not like him as he is another product of the Milosevic era. He is finished, I think.

Zoltan		19-Jun-2006 09:58
Ok Boys, I see you are desperately arguing about the last decades. Yugoslavia desintegrated and all countries once being part of it suffered. Some more, some less. I had my honeymoon in Croatia in 1997 near Rijeka (in Hungarian/Italian Fiume). Although we were enjoying summer on the see-side, not many people smiled and looked happily. On the trip to Plitvice we saw burned and flattened villages and signs of fighting. It was a very sad trip and we felt pitty for those who were involved this or that way. Anyway, my point is that I stop posting comments because first I have to finilise my PH. D thesis and then I go home to Hungary for vacation. My contract here expires and I have no intention to extend it. In other words I have to prepare for a smooth landing in Hungary for 2007 despite the fact that the country faces some difficulties in the coming years as announced by the prime minister. Cheers and I wish you all a good and happy summer

Vlad		19-Jun-2006 09:51
Yes, is the time to stop to be angry with each other. You were so good friends before and you are persons with sense, stop with these insults and provocations, the time will show who in th epolitic plan had right. Now think only for the good future of your Country. These political divisions are the MOST problem of a Country. The UNION make us STRONG.

Zoltan		19-Jun-2006 05:31
The result is HUN-SCG 9-10. Sorry for the mistake.

Zoltan		19-Jun-2006 04:58
Stefan and Alex, Boys, don't be that angry with each other. Just to tell you some good news Serbia (and Montenegro) beat Hungary in the waterpolo World Cup endgame 8-7 in Budapest. CONGRATULATIONS! Certainly these two teams are the two best in the world. I hope next time they meet in September in Belgrade in the waterpolo European champoinship endgame. Cheers

Vlad		18-Jun-2006 21:29
Alex, see www.kandidaturbogoljubkaric.com, THE STRENGTH OF SERBIA I saw his photos, with his wife, his sons his suppoters. He said a good thing: "I would to do anything to stop the persecution of serbs in Kosovo".

Vlad		18-Jun-2006 21:11
What's meaning SNAGA? I saw him when did an electoral congress in kosovo and all peoples who were there chanted: "Srbija Srbija!" He go down by the podium to be kissed by the peoples and he show the sign of victory. I don't understood why BK TV showed always him and spoke always about him. But now I understand very well. In anycase BK seems me a good TV. Many politic TALK SHOW and a long and well detailed Journal. Also many music. I saw also the great DISCO "Madona" in Pozarevac, was incredible. Is still in function now? Excuse me Alex, but really Marko Milosevic crashed ten and ten luxuous cars? Is very difficoult for me to believe that.

Alex Belgrade		18-Jun-2006 20:40
Vlad, Snaga Srbije is led by Bogoljub Karic - a super rich tycoon whom got rich during the sanctions - he is - or was - a close friend of the Milosevic family. He has about 10 exclusive huge villas only in Belgrade. He is not loved at all. He is now on the run. But, he could be the 3rd or 4th most popular party in Serbia. The authorities have stripped him off the 063 cell phone operator, the Astra Bank, and the BK TV. I think Kostunica did that, in order to prevent Karic from becoming Prime Minister.

Vlad		18-Jun-2006 18:53
I see sometimes BK TV and always I heard abut a party named Snaga Srbija who have a leader who seems me very loved in your Country. what's about this party?

Alex Belgrade		18-Jun-2006 18:44
I quote Stefan Serb. "with SPS every citizen mattered... with SPS there would be stability". Let's analyse this, shall we. Milosevic never went to a hospital to visit any of the victims of his policy. Not the wounded, not the refugees. His own son built the Bamby Land, a sad imitation of Disneyland - while the bombs were falling on Serbs. And while 750,000 jobs were lost during Milosevic's era, thousands of trucks with smuggled cigarettes came in. Care for every citizen. Yeah, right! The socialists - the red gangsters, cared only about their power, privileges, functions, money. In that respect the politicans of today are the same, but at least they are trying to fix what Milosevic has done. Once again I repeat, I doubt that any citizen would like to live as he or she lived in 1993. There would be stability with SPS? Well, that's a joke, because Milosevic in just 10 years, got Serbia through 5 wars - with Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo and Nato. He lost each war. He almost nearly started a civil war with Serbia on that "counter meeting in 1996" and he almost started a war with Montenegro in 1998. I remember the SPS election slogans of the 1990s: "Peace. Stability. Progress". And what was happening in reality - Serbia went from one war to the next, each one LOST. Hyperinflation. Jezda and Dafina banks which robbed the people of their life savings. People waiting in line for food, while Marko (Narko) Milosevic closed highways to race expensive cars, and he crashed dozens of them. The SPS promised us "super-fast railways" and "Swedish standard of living". In the end we got trains going at 20 km per hour and the standard of Asia or Africa. Stability! Ha ha ha ha. Good one. Stefan you are such a sorry ass. Please stop because most Serbs who read this, and others from across the world, think that what you are saying is a fucking joke. Hello?? Earth to reality. I remember the Serbian State Television of the 1990s -they tell us that the stores are full, and we go out and we see empty stores, at the same time we see expensive cars and villas in Dedinje, blocked to the general public. What THE FUCK are you talking about. SPS stability meant - lost territories, dead Serbs, ancient Serbian lands in which now no Serbs live. You destroyed the past, the present and the future of this country. You drove half a million people or at least 300,000 to their deaths. You created 2 million refugees. That's almost every tenth citizen of Yugoslavia. You and your communist comarades such as Tudjman. Not to mention the 300,000 educated Serbs who have left Serbia. Or the 800,000 refugees in Serbia. FUCK YOU. DIE. ROT IN HELL. I lost my cousin in Croatia and you call me a traitor? My father was mobilised in the wars of the 1990s and during the bombing and you call me a traitor? I donated blood for the Krajina refugees, I brought cigarettes to our soldiers each day during the bombings, I gave humanitarian aid for Krajina - only to discover that it ended up in the hands of that SPS corrupt bitch BUBA MORINA, official in charge of the refugees, and you call me a traitor. I spend 2 hours every day telling to the world about the Serbian suffering in Kosovo, and you call me a traitor . FUCK YOU.

Alex Belgrade		18-Jun-2006 18:24
Stefan, I am as of this moment finished with you. I do not want to kill you, I said that in an emotional outrage. In July I will be off to Greece. Then I hope to bring some of my American friends over to Kosovo, with some US senators, so that they can see the suffering of the Serbian people. If you think that is treason, then fine. The communists did not sell themselves to the EU. They sold themselves to the devil, by denouncing Christianity and by putting that pentagram on their coat of arms. They are the biggest traitors of Serbia, because they raped the centuries of our history, identity, faith. They are the ones who killed priests, pulled their beards out, arrested them, tortured them, rode them like horses. They are the ones who stole other people's private homes and hard earned businesses. They are the ones who urinated on Church oltars and who took away Church land. They are the ones who killed 200.000 Serbs just because these Serbs did not want to embrace the Red Terror. I am proud to be Serb and sing Boze pravde. The very fact that you insult Serbia's historic symbols proves that you are a ZERO of a Serb, a brainwashed, angry young man who has lost all sense of the real world. You are a disgrace to Serbia. And you are sitting in London - if you had lived through what we have lived through, perhaps you would feel differently. Like I said, you Socialists have had 15 years to rule Serbia, and you destroyed it, by bringing it nothing but pain, destruction and isolation. Thanks, but no thanks. NEVER AGAIN! Did it ever occur to you that Serbia can't be against the world, that it can't beat the US? Did it ever occur to you that Milosevic did not suffer during the sanctions at all - instead, him and the clan of about 200 people close to him got enormously rich, while the people got enormously poor? You are the one who is blind and who is fucked up, not me. You consider me a traitor, and I consider you a traitor. But, history has dumped Communism on the garbage depo of history. And that will never change. Yugoslavia has died and Serbia will continue to live, and those old Communists will just die off anyway, by a natural process. LOSER! Have a nice life. You are a minority in Serbia. And I am so glad about that.

Guest		18-Jun-2006 17:54
I am actually 26 but yeah anyway close enough :P I am sick and tired of Serbia, tiptoeing around the truth. The truth is it is nice because it is my Motherland, but it is totally fucked. I am glad we didn't surrender Ratko Mladic, for me that would really have been the last fucking straw. Alex doesn't understand that during Milosevic's time every citizen mattered. Now, the Government would sell half of Serbia for an advert in a newspaper for Serbia. It hurts so bad that Jugoslavija collapsed, and now there is no way foward at all. But with SPS at least we will be stable. Not sell our soul to the EU. Alex is happy we are a member of the UN. WOW, isn't that an acheivment, aren't Ethiopia and Rwanda also members of the UN? Yes Serbia is in a class of its own now. Under Milosevic we had our pride, we were fighters, the fearless race. Now we are the same as everyone else. Pussies. Cao.

Vlad		18-Jun-2006 13:31
Stefan I believe tha tyou are my same age who is 23 and therefore I think that is very very important and beautiful to know new places and new peoples, I also travelled very much. But travel by travel I became day by day more proud to be romanian and you also also if now say that you fuck Serbia, you are certainly proud to be serb in your hearth.

Guest		18-Jun-2006 13:12
Not difficult, I drew up mostly in France and went to Paris University so I am used to both Worlds. It is different for Serbia to the rest of the former Eastern bloc. We were only 20 years ago the best country in the East and one of the best in Europe in my opinion only behind West Germany and Switzerland who's greatness is eternal. The rest of the East is progressing, and I am sick of looking on the bright side, every year when I visit Serbia I can see the gap widening. My family built houses and bought machinery etc in Tito's time, now they can't. Still life is good for them, indeed far better than mine, they have lots of family and land etc. Alex is a fool to compare Tadic's time to Milosevic's, he is confused and stupid. What the fuck does he want? Serbs to stand up for themselves? That is what Milosevic did, but sanctions are inevitable if you go against the US. SO he doesn't want sanctions? Ok fair enough but then Serbia would be Beogradski Pasaluk, if he didn't revoke the autonomies of Kosovo and Vojvodina they would have gone along with the rest of the republics. Serbs are pricks, we waited in the war while we got slaughtered to show the World the truth, then 5 years down the line we realize that the cameras know the truth but that the World doesn't want to know the truth. Do you guys know what happened at Srebrenica? Let me tell you, my cousin fought there and killed many. We laughed about it last year, why did we have such a sick attitude to the biggest European massacre since the Third Reich? Let me tell you. The war began in Bosnia, Serbs secured Serbian inhabited areas to protect our population. We halted our advance immediately, a few radical paramilitaries went further, these were mainly people who's family were all culled at night on the eve of the war by Muslims/Croats etc. Srebrenica was left alone, it was a Muslim enclave. UN declared it a safe haven, an area of peace, Serbs left it alone. Then Muslim pussies from Srebrenica got cocky, they weren't meeting resistance so they pushed outwards, burning villages and killing Serbian civilians. They thought they could just slaughter us. They were right. We left the World to see what they were doing, the World did not listen. Then UN trucks kept passing through RS territory to Srebrenica supposedly containing medicine and food. Serbs stormed a convoy once after they saw that their people were getting killed, but how could they be getting killed from unarmed people in a UN safe haven. My cousins units stormed the convoy of food trucks, doors were blown open, the trucks contained masses and masses of light weaponry, machine guns, grenades, RPG's, machetes etc. The UN drivers were executed. The captured material was filmed, the tapes were sent worldwide, the World dismissed them as fake and as propaganda. Srebrenica was armed, and kept expanding outwards killing civilians, chopping off old ladies' heads, nobody was going to help us. The World was against us, a United Serbia was a threat, let alone a Jugoslavija. 5 years passed, nothing, the news continued to broadcast Sarajevo which I will discuss later. The Bosnian Muslims made a large advance, they destroyed many villages. The Serbs had enough, the descended on Srebrenica. And let me tell you amigos they got revenge, justice was served. 8000 were killed in 1 day, no women, all men who had murdered hundreds and hundreds of Serbs, many teenagers were killed, this may shock you. But bear in mind that these teenagers were also soldiers of Allah, they took weapons and slit Serbian throats, then when the Chedos fight back thy shit their pants HAHAHAHAHA. What I regret is that we didn't murder the entire population of Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia, FYROM etc, then we could be proud with our title, and we wouldn't have to complain that we are being unjustly labelled the 2nd Hitlers. Cao.

Vlad		18-Jun-2006 11:52
Stefan , you living in London? Probabily is very difficoult for an eastern to live there, but certainly is a beautiful city.

Guest		18-Jun-2006 11:02
I know legija, he calls me Caki (Chaki). I also know Zabac of Ub, biggest cigarette smuggler in Europe because I am also from Ub. I have Golubovic and other gangsters. I once had lunch with Arkan. I would love to meet Ratko Mladic, and it is a great shame I never met Milosevic. Alex, I am coming there end of July/beginning of August, if you want to kill me feel free hahahahaha, I would like to see that, come strapped if you want to fight me. I don't hate you, but I consider you a traitor. On a serious note, do you know if I can access Milosevic's grave to pay my respects or is that not possible because of all the traitors who might vandalize it? Either way I will lay flowers at his grave or his door, or Parliament, we shall see. Cao.

Vlad		18-Jun-2006 10:47
Is a great ugly thing to see two good and intelligent persons like you Alex and Stefan offend yourselves with this discussion. You both love your country only with two diffrent kind. Is true that often in east and in Balkans democracy became an instrument of some politic-men to steal and to take power. But in the bad and in the good, we live in 2006, and to think how beatiful was the past, can realize never. Stefan, the problems and the defects of Serbia are the same of the all East countries. Don't believe that only in Serbia is maphia or corruption. You really believe that in Croatia aren't maphia or corruption? Also Slovenia who is the most develped Country of east has its maphia who traffic with babies and drugs. I don't visit Serbia in Milosevic's era, I visit your Country until the war and I go back there after 14 years, this meaning tha tI visit Tito's Serbia and Tadic's Serbia, but not Milosevic's Serbia. I saw that Serbia and Belgrade are still beautiful places, but on th einfrastructural plan aren't like Tito's era but not for Tadic's fault, because he take the power only few years ago, during this period only Milosevic rules. I like Milosevic for his patriottism and for the order and the discipline but I don't believe that he was only good for Serbia. My dear friend Stefan, you can't compare Tito with Slobo, is a great mistake to consider Slobo the politic son of Tito. They were very very different. In both the cases, they died and serbian young society who is very strong in my opinion, Stefan , this will make a strong Serbia in the next future. When in Serbia men like Legjia, Zoran Vukojevic will not exists and there will live only the members o actual youth like you and Alex, you can see certainly that you can be proud to live in a strong Country. The optimism of a country is in its own youth. If a youth is bad like in USA the future will be dark, while in the case of East Europe where youth is good, the future will be good. I'm sure of that. STOP TO DISCUSS IS A NON SENSE!

Guest		18-Jun-2006 08:35
mistake *I hate Chetniks....

Guest		18-Jun-2006 08:34
Alex, Listen you asshole, I have chetniks, Boze Pravde and all that crap.SImple reason why: During WWII I lost my Deda and my Deda's brat thanks to the Nazis becuase of the fucking Chetniks. They gave Hitler passage through to N Africa. They are pussies. My Deda and Deda's brother were Partizans, they fought for Serbia and Yugoslavia, did your family Chedo? They died for Communism and Yugoslavia, while Chetniks were licking Alexander's ass. After my Deda and his bro were killed, the Nazis went and killed half of my village for revenge, then killed my Deda's sister. FUCK CHETNIKS, BOZE PRAVDE AND OUR STUPID MONARCHY.

Alex Belgrade		17-Jun-2006 23:28
Stefan, For your information, Hej Sloveni was a copy of a Polish and Czech song. The communists stole everything, and they stole another country's music, and just added their own words - they couldn't even invent something original on their own. Boze pravde, for your information, was proclaimed as 1 of 3 best national anthems in the world in Paris between two world wars - I forget the exact year. In any case, why should we sing Hej Sloveni? Why Croats don't sing Hej Sloveni? Or Slovenes? Or Bosnians? Or Macedonians? Serbia has its own national anthem - the only national anthem it ever had, and with that national anthem it got back Kosovo in 1912, it beat Austria-Hungary in 1918 and was the first nation in Europe to stand up against Hitlerin May 1941. It's a GREAT song. You are so full of shit. Those boys who went to the bridges were there just so the RTS could tape them, after that they ran away. I was there, I saw it. They were there from 7 pm until 9 or 10 pm. The evening news was at 7.30 pm. And instead of praying and lighting candles, they partied while people were dying. I am disgusted by Milosevic and by his crazy fucked up followers who are so brainwashed that they can't see where he has brought Serbia. HE has fucked it up. He was the cause. The West was just a consequence. He is dead. Finished. Caput. Finito. Serbia is ruined because of him. We are today trying to fix whatever he has destroyed. You are so blind!!! You were not even here, so we can't really discuss anything, can we. Stay in London. Don't ever come back here. We don't need people like you - why don't you do something for your country, instead of just sitting in London, having a good life and complaining. Your Milosevic was the one who fucked up everything. I know what I saw and I know how I lived then, and how I live now. Much better now - no thanks to Slobo. Our ancestors - St. Simeon, St. Sava and the rest have been turning in their graves for 60 years because of a Godless Communist regime that has turned everything upside down and fucked so many people, such as yourself. You and your kind will never be in power again. NEVER. The Socialists will just die off. We will NEVER again be Yugoslavia, never have Hej Sloveni, never admire that stupid communist ideology. You will be the looser for the rest of your life. Once again, your political opinion is yours and yours only, but every time you attack Serbia, its historic symbols, its history, its identity, you will be hearing sharp words coming from my mouth. To think that I thought we could be friends. NO WAY. You have said so many things I could kill you for. If some Croat or Albanian said this, I would just ignore him. But, you, a so-called Serb, whereas you are a Commie Yugoslav, you hate your own country so much. I am grateful that you are in London. You are a frustrated and miserable, angry young man. I am so sorry to have ever thought that we could be friends. You now have ZERO respect in my eyes. Vlad has more respect for Serbia than you do. And those Europeans at the Council of Europe showed more respect to Boze pravde, than you. BOZE PRAVDE. SERBIA. SERBIAN FLAG. SERBIA IN THE EU AND NATO. All this will happen and there is absolutely nothing that you can do about it. There you go. Eat your heart out.

Guest		17-Jun-2006 17:16
Continued........ When crazy drunks roam the streets non-stop, when Brothers hate each other and never speak to each other because they support different political parties, when people who are employed have to work 7 days a week to survive, and those who don't work are all dodgy and cheap taxes, involved in crime etc. Where people are killed for 40 dinars, when people who put all their hopes in football and the players don't even try at the World fucking Cup, like they don't know the difference between the World Cup and a coffee cup. Serbia is fucked internally, you know it as do I, it is fucked, discipline is gone, education is gone, employment is gone, sanity has gone, and it ruled by a bunch of gangsters and imbeciles. You just saw yourself the minister kicking an interviewer. It is a jokes, literally, you should take a drive in Serbia and pray to God that you don't die. I will say some other stuff when it comes to my head, because some of it will make you laugh, and there is so much that is shit and fucked. And a tiny bit that has improved like a Government building getting a new facade every 5 years. Cao.

Guest		17-Jun-2006 17:09
You guys talk of nothing, you don't understand, you think the enitre country revolves around singing a dreary song that lasts for 10 minutes and is slow and in my opinion crap. National anthems are supposed to be upbeat and put power in your heart with strong beats of the drum and powerful short verses. Not slow and depressing like Boze Pravde. Listen to any national anthem in the World, they are all better than Boze Pravde. Those boys who went on the bridges with signs saying 'target' etc were the proud Serbs who stood up for themselves against the World, the boys of Milosevic's era. What you maybe didn't see is that before the war 99% of our Senate voted to go and fight, then when it comes to the bombs dropping and the electricty turning off they can't handle it and they go and throw stones at Milosevic's office windows. They wanted to fight, our soldiers were willing, the nation was the most powerful on Earth, we were so strong and united. But then what? The youth doesn't listen to the old generations who went through much more than 3 months of bombing. The youth know best. That is why the Serbian dinar is weaker and weaker every year in a society with no sanctions, no more war, no nothing. 2 years ago I converted £1 for 90 dinars, now it is 125 dinars to a pound. I really don't know actually where to start about how bad Serbia is now, if anyone wants to know I think they should go and visit, then when you see drunks all over the place, 60% of the population unemployed, tramps and beggars everywhere, every sports event riots, graffiti everywhere, how much crime there is, how much shit there is etc etc. Here is an example, now it is no longer about who you are, it is who you know, if your brother or father is a cop, you are invincible. Before, in Milosevic and Tito's time, if your father was God himself, he couldn't help you if you got caught doing wrong. Our education system is in disrepair, there is no way back, kids don't learn, they just put a cigarette in their mouth, pistol on their waist, stroll down the street and tell someone to take off their trainers if they are nice, then shoot them anyway. I know my cousin is a volleyball player, in Milosevic's time even during sanction he and his club went all over Europe playing international teams. Now his leg is fucked up, his Uncle lives in the US, life is too hard in Serbia now for him, he wants to go and work for his Uncle. Since the new Government has taken over, he has been waiting for a visa to be approved for 6 years 6 FUCKING YEARS! Serbia is nothing now, we will be even less than nothing, Kosovo will go, then Presevo, in 50 years it will all be gone, and Serbia will be from Kragujevac to Belgrade. So sing your boring song and have fun, but I sare you to go abroad now and tell someone you are from Serbia, I can guarantee you they will see "huh? from where? is that near China?" or something along those lines. If they asked you before where you were from you said Yugoslavia you were instantly a God (during Tito's time), during Milosevic's time it wa known you were a real man, who stood up for himself and didn't fear anyone, now we are known as unlawful scum, same a Somalians, or just not known at all. Nobody cares for Serbia outside the Balkans, even inside the Balkans, fucking Albanians are raping us of land let alone anyone else. Sometimes I just laugh at Serbia, even I am a Serb but I can see we are a laughing stock. Yes Croats are slimy, sneaky bastards and I would like to see Croats all killed. Not Croatia, that is a beautiful country, just Croats. But Serbs are so clever aren't they? They want to be heros, we waiting for years for the World to see what the Croats and Bosniaks were doing to us in the war, then in the end when we finally realized the entire World hates us we lost it and killed a few thousand of them. Nw we are Hitler x 10000000. Fuck that, if I was old enough to fight I would have killed everyone I met who crossed my path, I would slaughter everyone, peacekeepers, everyone. At least then I would deserve what I get, and we would deserve what we are now. A piece of shit. Nobodies. Anyway, my words are pointless, so just go to Serbia to see how great it is now, or just turn on your TV and observe your World map to see how it shrinks. We are the most loser race, we are pussies, we have no honour, no more pride, no morale, we are the same as Albania now, even when you say Serbia it sounds awful, like some Third World country. Don't compare anything to Milosevic's time because you are embaressing yourselves, that was the time when we were fighting the World, when we were standing up for ourselves, united as a nation and peoples. We had sanctions, meaning we had nothing, but nobody went hungry, our Army was stronger than ever, our education system was better than ever, crime was low, society functioned in the face of adversity like never before, then along came Djindjic and Serbia is fucked. It will never been great again, just so you know. Your living standard has increased? WOW, that it is because there are no sanctions, what about the living standards of those Serbs in Kosovo and Bosnia, now we are going to lose our entity in Bosnia. RS will be integrated into BiH. What about the living standards of everyone else, who watches their pay increase by 4 or 5% while the currency dwindles 9 or 10% every year. Amazing, a few buildings have been repaired? That's excellent, but why is half the country in betting shops all day spending their food money and losing it in a matter of seconds. What about all those great cars that we drive well after sanctions ending and your living standard has sky-rocketed eh? What about all those men who died who are turning in their graves to see the traitors in charge of the country now? What about us selling our soul to the EU? Yes democratic Serbia is excellent isn't it. When cafes are full 24/7 and the entire country does nothing but complain. When every sporting event brings a riot and there is no control anymore.

Vlad		17-Jun-2006 15:12
AND REMEMBER: TIRO WAS CROAT,AND THE GREAT PART OF PARTIZANS WERE CROATS AND SLOVENIANS, MOST OF THE SONGS OF TITO'S ERA WERE SLOVENIAN LIKE "NA JURIS" OR "KOD PA SO TI MLADI FANTJE". AND THESE TWO PEOPLES WHO WANT YUGOSLAVIA MORE THAN YOU SERBS, ARE THE SAME PEOPLES WHO WANTED THE END OF IT. THEREFORE STEFAN, DON'T THINK THAT CROATS OR SLOVENIANS ARE PERFECTS BECAUSE HOW YOU CAN SEE ALL THE BLOOD WHO WAS IN FORMER YUGOSLAVIA WAS CAUSED BY THEM. YOU LIKE SO MUCH CROATS FOR THEIR PATRIOTTISM BUT THE SAME CROATS WHO NOW CHANT "LJEPA NASA" CHANTED "ZIVIO TITO" BEFORE. NOW THEY KISS THEIR FLAG BUT THEY KISSED THE RED STAR UNTIL 15 YEARS AGO. WHILE YOU SAY THAT THEY ARE A SORT OF GODS, THEY KILLED MILES AND MILES OF INNOCENT SERBS IN JASENOVAC.

Vlad		17-Jun-2006 15:01
Very very beautiful Boze Pravde, is very imponet I heard it in www.vladars.net Alex, I thank you for the friendership that you according me is an honour to have it. Yes probabily we have two different ideologies, and probabily in anycase I'm too extremist but in any case we have a great common valour: the patriottism. You have right in my opinion when you say: "why croats sing Ljepa Nasa and we msut still to sing hej Slovenij?" In the bad and inthe good, Jugoslavia died but not now, it died more more before. Now that Yu is died, serbs have the opportunity to say to all the worls "I'm from republic of Serbia" and not SCG or Yugoslavia. certainly at Tito's time Serbia had also a good economy (the same of EU's countries)but in the other side neverybody knew that existed Serbia. Serbia is not Africa! Isn't Somalia or Afghanistan! Is Europe and not Serbia must pay a thing to Europe but Europe must pay to Serbia for the strike of 1999, when our stupid goverments kissed american ass to bomb a SISTER COUNTRY like Serbia who give to Europe blood and blood together another peoples of Balkans for defend our Great Continent by ottomans. Isn't Somalia or Afghanistan a Country who gave us KNEZ LAZAR, a country who has town like Novi Sad or beautiful places like Kopaonik. Stefan you must be PROUD for be serb like that boys who in the strikes of 99 went with TARGET to defend your bridges. You must be proud for all that serbs who work honestly for a better Serbia who certailny will be come soon. Serbia like Romania will be very very quickly together in EU, our two countries will received RIVERS of money and will develope with them like Greece, Spain, Ireland or Portugal who before their integration in EU were poor but now are very developed. I respect you, and I understand your love for an important page of serbian history like Yu and Tito, you are a patriot certainly and you certainly love Serbia, only you said that words only for delusion and not because you hate your Country, I'm sure that you have a true great serb heart in yoursel and you certainly will be proud when you will listen Boze Pravde. Now you can love Yugoslavia like a page of past but you now must turn the page and to be proud for the reissance of Serbia. We are boys of Balkans, we must to promove to foreigner the qualities of our cultures and not to show only the defects, because unfortunately they are very well known in West thanks to the WEST MEDIA OF SHIT. Your sentiments are the same of the Nostalgic sentiment of our grandfather who thinks still to communism era. But that era is finished, now we must see on we must come in EU but we must fuck USA and SIONIST LOBBIES powers who hate us like showed the strike on Serbia in 1999. Don't care about Croats, they are certainly proud but they don't suffer like serbs, therefore probabily they are so proud. They haven't 10 years of Embargo, they haven't the hate of USA they have only few time a war while you suffer the lost of all your industries caused by USA in 1999. Croats aren't better than you, they had only more lucky but this not meaning that Serbia will not arrive like their standard. When you glorify croats they said me FUCK YOU when I ask them last summer indications to Belgrade who was also their capitol and where their sons studied and went to work. This seems you a right thing? Regards for all two my serbian friends and I wish you to be agree and to stop your discussion. Is ugly to see two good and two intelligent perons like you have a discussion. cheers

Alex Belgrade		17-Jun-2006 13:04
Here is the official, authorised English translation of the Serbian national anthem, taken from the site of the Serbian Government. Look at how strong it is, the words, how Christian it is, how much faith there is in it. And the melody is truly beautiful. This is the song I can die for. This is the only national anthem Serbia has ever had. It was created in 1882 and was in use until 1918. When Yugoslavia was created, the title was kept as God of Justice with 3 verses - one from the Serbian anthem Boze Pravde. The second from the Croatian anthem Lijepa Nasa, and the third verse from the Slovenian anthem - Naprej, Zastava Slave. That combined national anthem was used from 1918 until 1945. The national anthem of Tito's and Milosevic's (smaller) Yugoslavia, was Hej Sloveni - Hey Slavs. In 2004, the Serbian Parliament re-introduced Boze Pravde, God of Justice, as the national anthem of Serbia. Internationally, Hej Sloveni was used. Now that Serbia is again a state on the international stage, it will use its own historic national anthem - Boze Pravde. Below is the official authorised translation. GOD OF JUSTICE God of Justice; Thou who saved us when in deepest bondage cast, Hear Thy Serbian children's voices, Be our help as in the past. With Thy mighty hand sustain us, Still our rugged pathway trace; God, our hope; protect and cherish Serbian lands and Serbian race! Bind in closest links our kindred Teach the love that will not fail, May the loathed fiend of discord Never in our ranks prevail. Let the golden fruits of union Our young tree of freedom grace; God, our Master! guide and prosper Serbian lands and Serbian race! Lord! Avert from us Thy vengeance, Thunder of Thy dreaded ire; Bless each Serbian town and hamlet, Mountain, meadow, heart and spire. When our host goes forth to battle Death or victory to embrace- God of armies! be our leader Strengthen then the Serbian race! On our sepulchre of ages Breaks the resurrection morn, From the slough of direst slavery Serbia anew is born. Through five hundred years of durance We have knelt before Thy face, All our kin, O God! deliver, Thus entreats the Serbian race!

Alex Belgrade		17-Jun-2006 12:54
Bože pravde - zvanican tekst srpske himne Bože pravde, ti što spase od propasti dosad nas, èuj i odsad naše glase i od sad nam budi spas. Moænom rukom vodi, brani buduænosti srpske brod, Bože spasi, Bože hrani, srpske zemlje, srpski rod! Složi srpsku braæu dragu na svak dièan slavan rad, sloga biæe poraz vragu a najjaèi srpstvu grad. Nek na srpskoj blista grani bratske sloge zlatan plod, Bože spasi, Bože hrani srpske zemlje, srpski rod! Nek na srpsko vedro èelo tvog ne padne gneva grom Blagoslovi Srbu selo polje, njivu, grad i dom! Kad nastupe borbe dani k' pobedi mu vodi hod Bože spasi, Bože hrani srpske zemlje, srpski rod! Iz mraènoga sinu groba srpske slave novi sjaj nastalo je novo doba Novu sreæu, Bože daj!

Alex Belgrade		17-Jun-2006 12:50
ZIVELA JUGOSLAVIJA! hahahahahahahaha Never again! Only Serbia! Zivela Srbija!

Alex Belgrade		17-Jun-2006 12:49
Stefan, one more thing. Listen to Vlad!!! Let me quote Vlad: "Now my dear Stefan that Jugoslavia died, you must love your Serbia who is your own Country... You mustn't hate your country Stefan, I understand your delusion but you and also me must fight or the reissance of our two countries." BRAVO, Vlad!!! I agree! Stefan- you should really be ashamed, and you should apologize. You have hurt me more than any Croat or Albanian ever would. Vlad - our neighbor from Romania, has more respect for Serbia than you do. Vlad, thank you for those kind words. I am not a supporter of the radical right, but I respect you because you are showing more respect for my country than Stefan, who is a Serb. For those words, Vlad, you can always count on my friendship - even if we sometimes do not agree on everything. Stefan, about Croatia being proud. Well, they certainly have their pride, they keep their nationalism going - I think too much - in any case, I want Serbs to have the same pride. Croats do not sing Hej Sloveni. They sing their anthem Lijepa Nasa. Why are ONLY Serbs stuck with singing Hej Sloveni? Why can't Serbs sing their own national anthem - Boze pravde? What's wrong with that? Why should we sing the national anthem of Yugoslavia, a country that has stopped to exist in 1991. Let me tell you, the moment we start having Boze pravde as a national anthem on all matches, and our own flag, there will be a boost of positive nationalism. One more sentence about Croats - don't forget that they sang Danke Deutschland, Thanks Germany. Serbs would never sing something like that for anyone, not even for Russia. Serbs used to have a back bone until Yugoslavianism and Communism took away our national identity. The West added to it by punishing us with sanctions, bombings... by making us guilt ridden, for the things that we did, and for the things we did not do.

Alex Belgrade		17-Jun-2006 12:35
Stefan, YOU have a problem with yourself. Sing whatever the fuck you want, put Milosevic's poster in your room, wave the red star flag, but Serbia will NEVER have those symbols again. I will be so happy when the last Yugoslav flag is removed, when we have BOZE PRAVDE on international matches. I feel so sorry for you. You are a pathetic excuse for a Serb, you are lost in time and space. Any true Serb would not sing Hej Sloveni - at least not anymore, after ecerything. Why is it so hard for you to accept that Yugoslavia, Tito and Milosevic are gone? They will never come back. The Communist ideology is dead. You are infected by Communism, internationalism, Slavism. Why do Communists and Yugoslavs have such a hard time accepting that Yugoslavia is OVER, that we got NOTHING from in it in the end. You dare say such bad things about your country Serbia - the country that was equally destroyed by Milosevic and the West. You are a truly confused and fucked up young man. You may be physically strong with all that karate, but your mind is seriously fucked up. Until Milosevic, never have Serbs been on international Most Wanted lists for war crimes. Until Milosevic, Serbs were always the victims, not the prosecutors. Until Milosevic, Serbia actually had a name, a past. Milosevic fucked up our past, screwed up our present and stole away our future. Frankly I wish we had him executed on October 5, 2000, like Causesku and Elena were executed in Romania. Communist dictators deserve nothing else. I love Serbia but in a good way, not in a bad and negative way like you. You are frustrated and you hate everyone, you keep on saying bad words about everyone and everything. That says only things about yourself, for the whole world to see. Serbia is here where it is, because Milosevic fucked it up, and the West, but primarily him because he was the head of state, in charge of Serbia. Because of him we got sanctions, because of him we were bombed. He lost everything so if you want anyone to blame, blame him and the West, but don't you there say such bad things about Serbia. You are such a disappointment to me. I thought we could be friends, but I now realise it is not possible. You have serious issues. I am very upset with you and I am trying to keep a lid on my anger and fury. For your information, the democratic Serbia IS GOING WELL. Not only are we a member of the UN - which we were not under Slobo, but my living standard has improved about 6 times since his removal from power. I can get visas and I can travel abroad. I do not have to wait in line to buy basic necessities. I do not have to worry if some Communist policeman with no brains will beat me up. I can take a ride in new buses, on renewed streets, I own two credit cards - that didn't even exist during Slobo. I can take a plane and not have to go by bus to Hungary to catch a plane from there. Etc. Yes, life is much better. As for the Army, by 2010 Serbia will have a professional Army of 21.000 people, it will be a member of Nato and by 2012 Serbia should be in the EU. What you are offering is permanent isolation for Serbia and a return to Communism, which has died in 1989 across Europe. I do not care for your political beliefs - that is your right - but I am really insulted about the things you said about Serbia and Serbs. I demand an apology. I do not care how much you insult me personally, I do not care - we can fight one day, you can kill me if you wish, but I will not tolerate such words about Serbia and Serbs - coming from a Serb!!! Your behavior is a disgrace.

Vlad		17-Jun-2006 08:38
My dear Stefan in what concern disciline I also agree you, because one of the most defects of democracy is that in that societies don't exist discipline. I'm a radical of right also because I believe that also in my loved Fatherland is a great need of discipline. In our Balkan democracies, unfortunately democracy is the same of anarchy, this because after the end of communism, insted to have strong and good nationalist governaments we had governments of thieves. I also hate very very much this kind of democracy, I love only nationalism, and a Country without discipline is a poor country also in the moral and spiritual plan. all our youngs in Balkans think that discipline meaning only dictature and they love thereofore to live without it. But discipline make we a real men, only if our peoples are educated in the valour of Fatherland, God and Family our societies can wake up by this corrupt democratic system where who speak about tollerance and peace think really only to steal to honest people who work hardly. These new politic men who take the power after communism in Balkans, are the symbol of hypocricy. They are supported by USA and SIONIST DARK POWER who want to see us in anarchy for rule on us. Why USA loving so much to destroy Jugoslavia and Serbia? Because Jugoslavia had the 4th army stronger in Europe and also because Serbia didn't surrender to the dictature of USA. Now my dear Stefan that Jugoslavia died, you must love your Serbia who is your own Country and to make it strong like former Jugoslavia. You must defeat the anarchy who rules in your Vojska and you must wake up and take again Former Jugoslavian discipline and insert it in acutal Serbia. You mustn't hate your country Stefan, I understand your delusion but you and also me must fight or the reissance of our two countries.

Guest		16-Jun-2006 22:09
Alex, I sincerely hope the Ustase give us big big big stick. We deserve it, democratic Serbia is going wonderfully.

Guest		16-Jun-2006 22:06
Vlad, Don't ever compare Croats to Serbs, because Croats are actually good. It is like comparing USA to Afghanistan or Somalia. It is making a fool of Croatia. They are a truly sovereign state, they produce Wimbledon winners, 3rd in their first ever World Cup, they all support those who fought for them (Tudjman and Gotovina). They are a proud peoples and so they should be, I respect them even if they don't respect me. I know who thought good for me and my people and was the smartest man in the Balkans who led the strongest Force in Europe bar-Russia (JNA) and I know if Babic, Karadzic and other idiots listened to him, we would not be in the situation we are in now. Croats know who stood up for them, they know who are the Fathers of their state in recent history. They are proud, great and honourable. Good for them.

Guest		16-Jun-2006 21:59
Serbs lost because they are pricks. Who gives a fuck if the name is different, I know if I even played for Albania I would try my very hardest are be a real sportsman, not a pussy. Serbs are pussies, today just represents what our country has come to, no motivation, no more nationalism, no morale, it's the same in our military. My cousins in Serbia who served in the Vojska recently said it's a fucking joke, there is no dicipline, they can go home every weekend, fuck girls, some take drugs etc. It is the same as the West, but that's what Serbs wanted. Now enjoy my friends, but don't cry when you see what a piece of shit you have become when you go abroad and tell somebody you are from Serbia and they laugh in your face. It's better to be from Somalia, then people understand that you haven't yet evolved from monkeys and that you don't know for better. But to be a Serb is a Slav, a Christian, a European, the majority people who used to control one of the World's most powerful and best functioning states. Now we are NOTHING. Fuck every player in that team, if I was Ilija Petkovic or any of those players, if life is so bad for them that they can't even put up a fight then I would hang myself. Or I would tell them before the match, if yu don't play properly, and I will judge what is properly and what isn't, you won't leave Germany with any teeth or on your goddamn feet. I'll make a golfcourse of your face. Discipline = everything, without discipline, we are nothing, we just need the Turks to reinvade us and show us what hard is, then we'll see how many fat lazy cunts fill Belgrade's cafes all day long moaning when every cafe is on fire. Serbs are idiots. That is it. I am no longer supporting them, when the anthem becomes Boze Pravde I won't sing it, in fact I don't even know it, and I don't want to, now I am routing for France and Argentina (France because that is my second motherland and Argentina because they taught us a good lesson, they put our pussy players in their place for good, and I hope Cote D'Ivore do the same thing). Now for the National Anthem, I'll sing since they didn't: HEJ SLOVENI, JOS TE ZIVI, DUH NASIH DEDOVA, DOK ZA NAROD SRCE BIJE, NJIHOVIH, SINOVA, ZIVI ZIVI, DUH SLOVENSKI, ZIVET CE VEKOV' MA, ZALUD PRETI, PONOR PAKLA, ZALUD VATRA GROMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! JUGA JUGA JUGA-JAJ JUGAJAJ ZIVELA JUGOSLAVIJA!!

Alex Belgrade		16-Jun-2006 21:28
This is no joke! This is REAL news. Japan and Montenegro's War Ends after 100 years! Believe it or not, the Montenegrin-Japanese war that is almost a century old, has ended today, following signals from Japan that it wishes to establish normal diplomatic relations with the sovereign state of Montenegro. At the beginning of the 20th century, when Russia and Japan went to war with each other, the Slavic and loyal country of Montenegro sided with the Russians, thus declaring war on Japan. Montenegro's role was merely symbolic, but it was an important token of loyalty to Slavism, Orthodoxy etc. When Montenegro entered Yugoslavia, the unfinished war was placed under the carpet. With the renewal of Montenegro's independence, the war came out to the surface. The Imperial Government of Japan will send out an envoy to Montenegro on June 21 and 22. The special envoy to the Japanese Prime Minister and Deputy Foreign Minister of Japan, Akiko Jamanaka, will hand over papers regarding Japan's recognition of Montenegro and normalization of relations. That should end this strange war, that has been a war more on paper, than on the battlefield.

Alex Belgrade		16-Jun-2006 20:32
Vlad, I agree. I think Serbia will fly like the wind when we have our own name, national anthem and flag. Still, politics aside, these guys were there to represent our country (regardless of its symbols). I knew they could not beat Argentina. But, they did not even put up a fight. They played like grandmothers. I expected one or two goals and a strong fight. Instead, they seemed weak and unmotivated, and they got 6 goals. I myself have zero motivation to live in a country that does not exist anymore, to stand under a flag and by the national anthem that belong to some other country, some other era. I am glad that the team of a non-existant country lost, instead of the team of Serbia. If these guys will represent the future team of Serbia, then we should all just forget football for the next hundred years. These guys are not football players. They are BALLERINAS. I think this was the worst football played by our team ever since the history of football began. I am today deeply saddened, angry, humiliated, hurt BY OUR OWN BOYS. The only thing that comforts me is that a non existant country has played so badly. So, it really does not matter.

Vlad		16-Jun-2006 18:27
I have seen in gym the match Argentina-SCG and I was really surprised, because SCG musted fight for win that was the only way for SCG to son't leave the World Cup. Instead to fith like lions by the beginning, SCG came in stadium with sad and tired faces and refuse to fight. In a real match is more probabily that Argentina win also, but max 3-0 not 6-0. Excuse me but you rplayers was very idiots, they don't consider all the serbs and montenegrinians who went in germany with their passion for see them. I understand that they refuse to chant "Hey Slovenij" because is a past thing, but this not mening to refuse to fight and play. Isn't true that Argentina won only because was stronger, because also Brasil is more stronger than Croatia, but it suffered very very much before to defeat crotas for only 1-0 also. I hope for you that when will be Serbia team and not still SCG, serb players will understand that they become finally players of a their own Country called only Serbia, and certainly they will chant with more passion "Boze Pravde" than "Hej Slovenij". I'm sure that if today play Serbia and not SCG, your players would play more more better.

alex belgrade		16-Jun-2006 15:16
Stefan, I understand you are angry but you should not say Fuck Serbia!

Alex Belgrade		16-Jun-2006 15:12
Argentina: SCG 6:0 I could swallow one goal, even two. By the third one I got pissed off. The rest I did not watch. I could swallow a defeat by one or two goals. But, by 6 goals!!! Croats are already having a blast with this. Congratulations to Argentina. As for me, I am GLAD that we did not play as Serbia. We played as Serbia and Montenegro. That country does not exist anymore anyway, so we should just forget it. It was a non-existant country that lost by 6 goals. So who cares. This is probably one of the worst days in our football history. I don't know how those players are gonna face their fans back home.

Guest		16-Jun-2006 14:58
Well, I am truly embarressed to say the least. Just to confirm, as I have watched the majority of the games, that Serbia is by far the worst team to grace (or plague rather) the World Cup this time around. I hope they go back to Serbia, and NEVER EVER EVER return to a World Cup to spare me such embarressment again. Fuck Serbia, arrogant idiots, they are shit, no other word, they are awful, abysmal, shocking..........just SHIT. We should forget football for a couple of thousand years and focus more of our money on waterpolo, handball, volleyball and invest a shitload in basketball, we need young talent in these sports most. Cao

Alex Belgrade		16-Jun-2006 11:11
Zoltan, Just a tiny correction. The international country code for Serbia and Montenegro is SCG, not SMG. That, of course, is short of the local name Srbija i Crna Gora. Hence SCG. In any case, what matters is that Croatia has lost!

Vlad		16-Jun-2006 10:25
My town Timisoara is beautiful also because it has many minorities like hungarians, serbs, saxons, italians also croatians.

Vlad		16-Jun-2006 10:21
Is a good thinbg that they are also representans of our minorities, personally I like when also we had in our footbal national team also german or hungarian names like Tibor Selimes in 94 or the german saxon Kurt in our under 21 of few years ago. Oradea is a beautiful town expecially in the center where there are VAROSHAZA near the river. is a quite town with a beautiful old center. Yes we have also romanians who known hungarian language, but we have also few hungarians who unfortunately refuse to speak our language or to love our national symbols like that pig of Szasz Jeno in Odorhei who refuse to have romanian flag in the offices. But are only few cases, I personally have good relations with some hungarians who are very good persons and are also very well integrated. We also love Bartòk Bela who show his respect and his love for our culture when he composed Romanian Folk Dances. We also are very proud that he was born in Romania and he is also an example of the possibility of good convivence between two ethinc minorities.

Zoltan		16-Jun-2006 06:25
Hi Guys, The latest results from the waterpolo World Cup in Budapest are as follows: HUN-ROM 14-6, ITA-GRE 7-5, ESP-RUS 10-6, SMG-CRO 9-8. Vlad, There are three Transylvanians in the Romanian National team. Kádár Kálmán, who is a Hungarian and two Romanians such as Gheorghe Dunca and Ramiro Georgescu, both from Nagyvarad (Oradea). The Romanians speak Hungarian (as the Hungarian speaks Romanian). Cheers

Alex Belgrade		15-Jun-2006 22:47
YEAH!!!! Serbia beat Croatia! Oh, these are the moments that make life worth living for!!!

Guest		15-Jun-2006 21:42
Serbia beat Croatia!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA YESSSSSSSSSSSS

Vlad		15-Jun-2006 16:41
No, gosh! only for two points we lost. But in anycase Italy is strong on this sport, also if we also are. I will punish my dad for this ah ah ah

Zoltan		15-Jun-2006 05:42
Again, Last results from the waterpolo World Cup in Budapest are as follows: HUN-GRE 14-7, CRO-SPA 8-8, SMG-RUS 13-7, ITA-ROM 7-5. The schedule is available here in Hungarian (don't be afraid the symbols are self-explanatory)http://www.waterpolo.hu/index.php?p_id=55&parent_id=3&portal=&PHPSESSID=01c25894a9815a947e8ad36d14aecfba Cheers

Zoltan		15-Jun-2006 05:40
Hi, Last results from the waterpolo World Cup in Budapest are as follows: HUN-GRE 14-7, CRO-SPA 8-8, SMG-RUS 13-7, ITA, ROM 7-5. The Schedule is here in Hungarian (don't be afraid the symbols are self-explanatory). Cheers

Vlad		14-Jun-2006 18:39
we also have a good team, but we are together very strong antoher teams! when will be SCG-Croatia, I think will be more a NAVAL BATTLE than a simple match.

Alex Belgrade		14-Jun-2006 15:54
I had no idea about the Waterpolo World Championship! Thanks for letting me know. When will Serbia-Montenegro play Croatia?

Zoltan		14-Jun-2006 05:30
Other results that I forgot are CRO-RUS 12-9, SMG-SPA 7-6.

Zoltan		14-Jun-2006 05:05
Hi Stefan, The team will play as Serbia-Montenegro. The former team coach Petar Porobic and some players such as Predrag Jokic, Vladimir Gojkovic and Nikola Janovic are Montenegrins. Also the reigning champion Herceg Novi comes from Montenegro. Anyway, I hope that we can see good matches and a Hungarian-Serbian endgame. Yesterday results HUN-ITA 10-6, GRE-ROM 7-8 (!).

Guest		13-Jun-2006 17:13
Waterpolo is excellent, surely those World Championships will be between Olympic Champions Hungary and World Champions Serbia. Are we playing as Serbia and Montenegro? They don't broadcast waterpolo here in London. Alex, That's the thing about football, you don't have to be diplomatic, I am extremely disappointed at Serbia because Holland were shit. I thought they were excellent but we owned them all the 2nd half. We had countless chances and it's not that the ball didn't want to go in, rather we have poor firepower up front. I am only disappointed because of how shit Holland were, and we couldn't capitalise, so we are even worse. From all the games I have watched so far, we are the 2nd worst team in the tournament above only USA who were truly abysmal. You are thinking about Serbia vs Kosovo? That for me is a wonderful thought, the Albanians would be all cocky, then BANG!!! 7 or 8 nil, maybe break a few of their legs who knows. They are tough when they are 99% of Kosovo, but when it is 11 a side, they will shit their pants. Regards; Stefan

Vlad		13-Jun-2006 09:47
waterplo is very beautiful, a my italian cousin is player in Posillipo, he knew also Ratko Rudic who I believe is croatian. yes certainly water polo isn't beautiful like football.

Zoltan		13-Jun-2006 05:26
Sorry guys, The waterpolo World Cup starts in Budapest today (Hungary is in the same group with Romania, Serbia is together with Croatia). I just confused the cities. This World Cup is probably not as big as the football World Cup in Germany since only eight teams are involved. Nevertheless I am sure that those who watch the games will see world-class performance. Cheers Cheers

Zoltan		13-Jun-2006 05:17
C'mone Alex, Don't put politics into every aspect of life. It's World Cup year so cheer up and forget about nationalism and enmities. Just see the similar Hungarian situation playing against Slovakia or Croatia. Both countries have been more or less part of Hungary and in union with us for nearly a millenium. As of now both Slovakia and Croatia is ahead of us in terms of football and I don't see any reason not to support them. Unfortunately, Slovakia was beaten by Spain and could not make it to Germany. Croatia however, has a strong team with great skills. Let's see what they can do with Brazil. By the way, waterpolo World Cup starts in Belgrade soon. The two strongest teams in the world are Hungary and Serbia. Are you in for wp? (It is just an alternative).

Guest		13-Jun-2006 05:16
C'mone Alex, Don't put politics into every aspect of life. It's World Cup year so cheer up and forget about nationalism and enmities. Just see the similar Hungarian situation playing against Slovakia or Croatia. Both countries have been more or less part of Hungary and in union with us for nearly a millenium. As of now both Slovakia and Croatia is ahead of us in terms of football and I don't see any reason not to support them. Unfortunately, Slovakia was beaten by Spain and could not make it to Germany. Croatia however, has a strong team with great skills. Let's see what they can do with Brazil. By the way, waterpolo World Cup starts in Belgrade soon. The two strongest teams in the world are Hungary and Serbia. Are you in for wp? (It is just an alternative).

Alex Belgrade		12-Jun-2006 21:11
I keep thinking... about this: Serbia playing against Montenegro Serbia playing against Kosovo This is ridiculous.

Alex Belgrade		12-Jun-2006 21:03
Stefan Serb, 1. We can't really say Holland played like shit, because it beat us. I mean, come on, Holland has been beating Yugoslavia for 31 years. Our country - past and present, has NEVER beat them in football, or am I wrong? Congrats to them on a game well played. We need to learn to accept defeat more graciously. Therefore, I do not think you should use such strong language, like the word "shit". I do not think our boys were a disappointment. I think they really tried their best. With a bit of luck they could have done it. We have a very tough group. GO BLUE! 2. Why do you say good luck to Croatia? Would they ever wish good luck to Serbia? No way. I wish them to LOSE. If we have to fall out, then I wish Croatia to fall out sooner :) Your Yugoslavianism is killing me. Just remember 1914, 1941, 1991. If I have noticed correctly, only Serbia& Montenegro and Croatia have qualified from the former Yugoslavia? Or is there anyone else?

Alex Belgrade		12-Jun-2006 20:53
Serbia & Montenegro will play Argentina on Friday. The match with Holland was nice. We put in a lot of effort during the second half, but the ball just wouldn't get in :( I am not sure if we can beat Argentina, because that is like a super power of football. I only watch matches in which Serbia plays. Other than that I am not really interested in football. I only like martial arts.Therefore I can't join you in this discussion. But, today I heard that ALBANIA had signed that agreement with the EU, which FYR of Macedonia has signed in 2001. Serbia has still NOT signed it - we are way behind and I find that quite humiliating and frustrating.

Zoltan		12-Jun-2006 07:13
Hi All, I am just back from weekend. The suggested site shows a nice choreography of Poli supporters during a match. I am originally from Budapest but work currently abroad, return home in 2007. Nepstadion has been baptised to Puskas Ferenc Stadion in 2004 and will be rebuilt once we get the Euro 2012. When I was a child in the seventies I could see many matches when the stadium was packed full. The match Netherlands vs. Serbia was good but I think a draw would have been much closer to reality. Anyway, we see the subsequent matches in the group that come. Anyway, I can mostly follow the matches and it is interesting to see how beautifully football is played. Cheers

Vlad		11-Jun-2006 16:12
The direct match of Steaua and Rapid was our first lost, and the elimination on Middlesbrough was terrible, because we were near to the triumph, but our players think to have won too quickly and the sort punish us. In anycase our football is good, also if our national team doesn't arrive in World Championship of germany. I'm sorry for the lost of Serbia against Holland, but was only your first match. certainly your team will be get up greatly with its good players.

Guest		11-Jun-2006 15:17
Vlad, Steaua Bucharesti are great, they gave Middlesborough a fright, another great Romanian team which I know of is Rapid Bucharest, it seems as though both these teams always get into the UEFA Cup and get into the quarter finals, and sometimes semi's. I was very surprised Romania didn't get into the World Cup, especially with the liked of Adrian Mutu who caused quite a stir in the English Premiership when he played for Chelsea. About Croatia, yes, I also must admitt, they are excellent at football, the best in the Balkans, they are truly a great side, we all saw that in France '98 when they came 3rd in their first ever World Cup. Also, most of the best players from the former Jugoslav teams were Croat, half the team of the Jugoslav World Youth Cup Champions were Croats. They are better than us at football, but NOTHING else. We are better in volleyball, handball, waterpolo, basketball and Karate/Judo. They are only good at football, nothing else, I am not quite sure why. Anyway, I've got to go and work, I am on my long long break watching the Holland - Serbia game and now it's time to work. It's so hot outside, I am glad there is air conditioning here inside. :P So, best wishes to you all and good luck to Croatia, they also have a tough group including Brazil and Japan.

Guest		11-Jun-2006 15:01
Well there you have it, the Serbs have disappointed, 1:0 loss to Holland. Holland were actually shit, they were awful, but we just couldn't finish.

Guest		09-Jun-2006 18:59
Since, I can't open that page, I must ask you what it contains.

Vlad		09-Jun-2006 18:51
Zoltan, unfortunately your page for now doesn't open. Yes I'm a supporter of Poli, who is one of the stronger teams of our Fatherland. The relations in the plan ULTRA between we and the supporters of Steaua aren't good, but we respect them because we know that Steaua is a symbol. we have in my opinion the one of the most beautiful stadium in Romania, because is new and large. It can contain 35000 supporters and certainly is more more beautiful , modern and functionable than Ghencea. Of course the most beautiful Stadium that we have is "National Lia Manoliu" the former "23 August" who is also a symbol. It contains 70000 supportes, and its tribune are colored with our Flag. Is a symbol exactly like your "Nepstadion" in Budapest. Where are your from in Hungary?

Zoltan		09-Jun-2006 13:49
Actually Ferencvaros has huge problems due to mismanagement within the club. The strongest team is Debreceni VSC who happened to become the champion for the second time in row. MTK finished as fourth with players who are scarcely older than 20 years. Anyway, the big traditional teams in Hungarian football are Ferencvarosi TC, MTK and Ujpest FC. In the 1950's two other teams from Budapest such as Honved and Vasas joined the club. The heyday of Hungarian football was between the 1930's and 1970's. Now it is pretty bad. On national level we have been twice to the World Cup finals (1938, 1954), won three times Olympic gold (1952, 1964, 1968), and been to the final four in European championship (1964, 1972). On club level Hungarian teams pretty often moved to the last four in various European cups in the 1960s the last finalist being Videoton in 1985. Since then we have had to accept a long and boring silence. Anyway are you for Politechnica? Watch thishttp://www.nb1.hu/video/2006/0414/temes.wmv. Cheers

Zoltan		09-Jun-2006 13:17
Actually Ferencvaros has huge problems due to mismanagement within the club. The strongest team is Debreceni VSC who happened to become the champion for the second time in row. MTK finished as fourth with players who are scarcely older than 20 years. Anyway, the big traditional teams in Hungarian football are Ferencvarosi TC, MTK and Ujpest FC. In the 1950's two other teams from Budapest such as Honved and Vasas joined the club. The heyday of Hungarian football was between the 1930's and 1970's. Now it is pretty bad. On national level we have been twice to the World Cup finals (1938, 1954), won three times Olympic gold (1952, 1964, 1968), and been to the final four in European championship (1964, 1972). On club level Hungarian teams pretty often moved to the last four in various European cups in the 1960s the last finalist being Videoton in 1985. Since then we have had to accept a long and boring silence. Anyway are you for Politechnica? Watch thishttp://www.nb1.hu/video/2006/0414/temes.wmv. Cheers

Vlad		09-Jun-2006 10:58
Steaua is symbol of our Fatherland. It won a Continental Title, against a more known and favourit team as Barcellona. Now finaly afte years of never, our most famous team seems go back to the ancient strong. Certainly it isn't like that time, but it played a good football in that UEFA CUP, against Middlesbrough and antohers. That match in England was a real fight, but the football is that: win who do more goals. Middlesbrough had more maturity in that match, and we unfortunately belove that we have winners too quickly. Also Crvena Zvezda is a symbol of balkan football, its DELIJE are known everywhere for their passion. I remember Serbia-Bosnia in Belgrade where DELJE songs MARS NA DRINU with their flag and their choreographies. Stefan are you a GROBAR of Partizan? In Hungary I knew that the strongest team is Ferencvaros. national team of Hungary isn't now as its great past, but it have good players like Kiraly who was good in the match against Italy (2-2) and Fehre who unfotunately died in that drammatic match at only 25 years old. But in ULTRAS ambient in that Region I admire very much also TORCIDA SPLIT in Croatia, who have an english style. In Croatia-Germany 3-0, croatians made a giant beautifull choreography, who suprised also germans. Personally I love very much English Style who is also very follow here in Romania and I think also in other countries of our region.

Zoltan		09-Jun-2006 06:04
I mean lose beautifully. Unfortunately I could't see the match. However, I watched Middlesborough against Steaua because I was in London for a conference. Although both teams impressed me I was a bit more for Steaua since they are from the same region.

Zoltan		09-Jun-2006 05:59
Hi Stefan, That's great! I heard an interwiev with Mateja Kezman in which he stated that Sertbia can get quite far in the World Cup! Why not, Croatia did it in 1998 and Greece even better in 2002. Gera is an interesting case in Hungarian football. He was brought back from streets using drugs. I have no direct information regarding his performance but also other people told me that he played quite well with West Brom. Does Kiraly change to Arsenal? One day I hope that Hungary will also lern to win and not use beautifully. I think the environment of Serbian football is much more healthier than its Hungarian equivalent. My favourite club is MTK, which is a great club in terms of tradition but in terms of spectators it is quite small (1500 spectators on average). What do you think, who will win the World Cup? I would like to see a smaller players since since Uruguay's glorious victory in 1950 nothing has happened in this regard. Cheers

Alex Belgrade		08-Jun-2006 22:26
Zoltan, Stefan Serb, Vlad I am not into football really. I will cheer for SERBIA when it plays worlwide. At home, I am not a fan of any football club. So, I can't discuss this issue with you guys. Sorry :( By the way, today the flag of Serbia was raised at the UN. Cheers!

Guest		08-Jun-2006 16:50
Oh and by the way, I support FK Partizan in case you were wondering. Regards my friend. Stefan

Guest		08-Jun-2006 16:49
Zoltan, I am glad to see we both possess a great interest in football. You are right, Hungary have somewhat dissolved as a major footballing power as they were with the likes of Puskas, when they were nicknamed 'The Magic Magyars'. But be optimistic, Zoltan Gera is for me a great player, he has outperformed his entire squad when he was playing for West Brom. He is an exciting player to watch, and his skill in front of goal is great, he reminds me somewhat of our Kezman. Hungary played England a week or so ago, let me tell you my friend the 3:1 loss was not deserved. Believe me when I say that the scoreline did not reflect the rhythm of the play. Hungary deserved a draw. Their first half defensive performance was great, they showed amazing resiliance toward one of the favourites for this World Cup (England). They finished the half by saving a penalty and going into the changing rooms at 0:0. England briskly stepped up their game at the start of the second half and Hungary were caught on the break and went 1:0 down. Soon enough it was 2:0 and it looked as though the Magyar defense was collapsing, but a few moments later one Hungarian player (of whom I cannot recall his name) whacked the ball from at least 10 yards outside the area and it sailed in. Surely one of the best goals I have seen all year! Hungary were pushing hard for a draw and outplayed England on many occasions from that point on and were unlucky to be caught again on the break in the closing stages and go down to 3:1. It was a valiant effort in my opinion on Hungary's part, and if you guys can qualify for the European CHampionships in 2008, you will be back in business.

Zoltan		08-Jun-2006 10:30
I did not mention that Brasso is ugly. The old center of Segesvar is slowly falling apart but Szeben is in a much better shape. My wife graduated from the university in Brasso because she was born in Romania and has a Romanian citizenship. Just to your information she subsequently studied in Budapest and graduated with success. Alex, is it CZ or Partizan? Cheers

Vlad		08-Jun-2006 09:51
What you wan to say that Brasov is an ugly town? have you visit its old center? Its ancient fortress on the high town. I understand very well your hate against us, but you can't offend in this kind a beautiful town like Brasov. If Alex and anothers who love the truth want to see, the can see the photos of google, who defeat certainly your words full of hate and falsity. Ceausescu sell the saxons this is true, unfotunately. But you must remember, that after your independence, you hunted all austriacs who lived in Hungary, you hunt all civil citizens living there, after that you kiss Wien ass for all your history and only when Austria lost you choosed independence. I want to remember you that we have in Romania saxon mayor like Johannis in Sibiu who certainly you can't say that is ugly because it will the european cultural capitol next year, and daniel Thelmann in Medias. I choosed to don't speak more with you because I don't like to say with hungarians who are only full of hate and angry against us and therefore say only false things. Who really love the truth can see the pictures of Brasov; Sibiu or Sighisoara on google and on internet. Who is the truth, your shit hate and false words or the pictures? Alex, and anothers who really want to see how are these towns can come here to see by their eyes, I'm sure that they give me right, because who know the truth can be always quite and strong. Listem to me, because I don't want to speak with hungarians anymore: forget your hate for Romania if you want to see the truth. If Brasov is so ugly and uncivilized why your wife studied there and not in Budapest? Why our towns of Transylvania are full of you every week end and holydays? If you love so much them, I find very wrong to call them ugly or uncivilized. A WORD FULL OF HATE IS OFTEN A FALSE WORD. therefore I don't speak with hungarians, not because I hate them but because is impossible to have with them a good and a civil dialogue if they are so full of hate and falsity.

Alex Belgrade		08-Jun-2006 09:10
Zoltan, Let me just tell you that 15 years ago people from Hungary were coming to Serbia (Yugoslavia) to buy food. Now, many people from Serbia go to Hungary and Western Europe in search of a better life style. Vojvodina has an autonomy already, I don't see anything wrong with it. I see Hungarian government making an issue out of nothing. It's political. In any case this conversation is pointless. Hungary and Serbia are neighbors and should stay neighbors. Hungary is now in the EU. Serbia will be one day. That's it.

Guest		08-Jun-2006 08:42
Alex, Why do you think that most Hungarians want to have a greater Hungary? We just want them to be left in peace and allowed to do their business. The maximum we demand for them is autonomy, which works in South Tirol, Catalonia and elsewhere in Europe. The Romanian example of selling the Saxons for cash should be a warning that you can replace them with own nationals but you face also unwanted consequences in terms of culture and economy. My wife studied in Brasso at the Transylvanian University. Just drive through the once beautiful saxon villages and see the result. The area in which I live in Budapest is full of people coming from Voivodina. Do you what is surprising? Not only Hungarians but also indigenous Serbs in mixed mariiages live with us in peace who do not want to return and face powerty. My biggest problem for example is not greater Hungary because you can see its borders on every geographical map. It is our football, which is far from its glorious days and there is no change in sight any time soon. By the way, by describing architecture and everything in Voivodina as an area having Austro-Hungarian heritage you can skip Austro. In terms of architecture Voivodina still looks like Hungary. What is your favourite football club? CZ or Partizan? Cheers

Vlad		07-Jun-2006 20:59
In this zone of europe is an interesting sharm because here is the union of the Mittle.european world and balkans. Not only Austro-hungarian empire , for what concern Romania, make the mittle-european aspect but also the German Saxon influence of the medieval era. Therefore our mittle-european hearth is very old. And this is another reason for western peoples to respect our cultures and our dignity. In Romania we have a town known as the Sazlburg of the east who is Brasov founded by german-saxons in medieval time, and we have also a town with a turk influence as Calarasi. the same situation in Serbia where are in the same country a mittle-european town as Novi sad together a town with a great turkis influence like Nis or Pristina. Another Country with this aspect is Croatia

Alex Belgrade		07-Jun-2006 20:08
Zoltan, I don't know why I said that I admire Hungary's culture - I guess Austria - Hungary was always more cultural than the Orient, and except for Vojvodina, the rest of Serbia was under the influence of islam, for a long time. When you look at the architecture in Vojvodina - the Austro-Hungarian architecture, and the architecture in the south of Serbia, you will see the difference. It's not the architecture only, it's the whole way of life. I think it's nice to see that Serbia has kept a mixture of everything - Austria-Hungarian, Turkish, communist, modern influence. Those mixtures and those many national minorities and their cultures, they all make Serbia rich in diversity and I admire that. I have nothing against minorities, but they must respect Serbia and accept it as their home. If they do, then they also must be treated with respect. It works both ways.

Zoltan		07-Jun-2006 12:52
Alex, Budapest is beautiful I understand but what do you admire in Hungarian culture?

Alex Belgrade		07-Jun-2006 12:30
JOKE Okay. Here is a joke. Let's lighten things up a little and smile! A Serb and a Montenegrin, now living in separate states, are talking about the summer. The Serb says: "You know, I think I will go to the Turkish seaside, and not the Montenegrin one". The Montenegrin says: "Why?" The Serb replies: "Turkey is cheaper. Turkey has running water for the whole day. Turkey has better service. And, we've been in a state union with them far longer than with you guys". Ahahaha Good one, eh?

Alex Belgrade		07-Jun-2006 12:21
Neonight, Nenad Canak was mentioned by Vlad, not by me. As for the Nazis, you know about that so called concert by a Hungarian so called rock group with black uniforms and Greater Hungary propaganda? The autonomy in Vojvodina is fine. Hungarian political parties use Vojvodina for domestic purposes only, when there are elections. Nenad Canak is an asshole. Vojvodina will never again be Hungarian. I was in Novi Sad, Zrenjanin and Subotica and I saw harmony in the streets. People speaking both Serbian and Hungarian, people doing their own business, living normally. I saw them reading different newspapers, going to different churches, living a relaxed and normal life. And that's how it is going to stay. Stop telling us that the Hungarians do not want a Greater Hungary. Sure you do. After WW 1 you lost territory because Austria-Hungary was defeated. If you did not mess with Serbia, you would not be defeated in the first place. You remember in 1914, Austria-Hungary printed obituaries for Serbia, in which it was written that Serbia must die! Well, in the end, it was Austria-Hungary that died. Not only did Hungary murder Serbs during WW 1, it did so during WW 2. So shut the hell up and don't any of you talk to me about Nazis and Nazism. I admire Hungary for its culture, Budapest is a beautiful city, but Hungarian history, as well as the present, is agressive towards other nations - you have appetites for the present Serbian and Romanian territories. You are using your position in the EU to put pressure on Serbia and Romania, to create a problem when there is none. While France was until recently burning because of ethnic and religious violence, Serbia is fine. And while the West will probably burn due to islamic terror, Serbia will be fine. What goes around comes around. Everything the West has done to Serbia, will come back times ten. Mark my words.

Neonknight		07-Jun-2006 07:44
To Alex Belgrade: 1.) Most of us Hungarians does not agree with that neo-naci- racists who you mentioned in your post and . The hungarian government also does not agree with them. Most of us does not share their ideas and we don't want to get back the old Hungarian territories, but we think the Trianon "peace" was a great unlawful injustice (we lost 66% of our land and 50% of people while Austria and Germany who was really responsible for the two WorldWars did' not lost so much ). So I think the Hungarians who live at the other side of the border should have the right to live in peace on the land where there grandparents borned. On the other hand you are right, governments should not let these stupid nazi guys to demonstrate there and hurt the Serbs with this. 2.)We often hear the news that Hungarian families were attacked by racists in for example Serbia, where they living (and their families were living there for centuries). So the "blade has two edges" as we say. PEACE Live and let live !

Vlad		04-Jun-2006 11:23
In Vojvodina who want autonomy, only hungarians or also some serbs? I knew that exist in Vojvodina a party drived by Nenad....../I forget his family name) , who is allied with hungarian VMSZ for the autonomy of that region.

Alex Belgrade		03-Jun-2006 23:26
As of a little after 8 pm, local time on June 3, 2006, Montenegro has become independent and so has Serbia!!! I congratulate all the citizens of Montenegro on their rediscovered statehood and I wish all the citizens of Serbia, especially my Serbian people, a happy INDEPENDENT AND SOVEREIGN STATE OF SERBIA, once again, after 88 years. On Monday, the Serbian Parliament will adopt a Declaration of Independence of Serbia. Serbia will be the state successor to the Union of Serbia-Montenegro and will not have to be re-admitted into the UN and elsewhere. Montenegro will, however, have to ask for recognition and acceptance into all international organizations. After the session of the Serbian Parliament, on Monday, the Army will place down the Yugoslav flag for the last time, and it will play the "HEY SLAVS" national anthem for the last time. Then, the Serbian national anthem "GOD OF JUSTICE" will be played, and the Serbian flag will be risen. I am going to be there and hold the three fingers of my right hand on my heart. I am SO happy that Serbia is finally being reborn as a state - after 88 years of various experiments with various Yugoslavias and Unions, which have cost us so much.... Stefan, don't spoil the moment for me. Kosovo will go and then I think that's it with the breakup of Yugoslavia. Vojvodina will not go and neither will Sandzak. Unfortunately, the Republic of Srpska will not be allowed to hold a referendum on independence from Bosnia. That is so unfair. But, it will be how the US wants it to be. In any case, I think that this year the painful and traumatic dissolvement of Yugoslavia, that has lasted for 15 years, will finally be completed, so that we can end it and move on with our lives. After Kosovo, Serbia will not loose any more territories. You will see that I am right. In any case, we must finally forget about Yugoslavia - that now belongs to history books and museums, for studying. There were successes, but there were also huge tragedies, so much pain, bloodshed, agony, and in the end of it all Serbia has lost so much, so much... I am standing tall and looking up to the future with great optimism, seeing my country, Serbia, rise. It is simply beautiful. It's like waking up after a long nightmare. Zivela Srbija!

Guest		02-Jun-2006 22:53
Alex, I wouldn't get too excited bro, 2006 is set to be one of the worst years in Serbian history territory-wise. Don't be in too much of a rush for Montenegro to go, because after them Kosovo will follow suit, then the KLA will send troops to all the borders, Serbs will flee from the North part which will get nothing but independence to stay as Kosovo. Then the KLA will spill over into Presevo, they will start trouble, our Government won't do a thing, few hundred Serbs will die, perhaps 10 Albanians will die and Presevo will be independent. Five years down the line.....Kosovo will have not 1 Serbian churches standing, even our priceless glorious Decani, the most valueable monastery in the Balkans in terms of neo-Byzantine art. Kosovo will then unite with Albania by legal means, by democratic refurendum, Serbs will flap like chickens for a while, nothing will come of it because Serbia will be didly-squat, by then National Service will no longer exist and our Vojska will be one of the worst in the World let alone Europe or even the Balkans. By then Vojvodina's minorities will push for independence, they won't get it, but they could get an autonomy again. Beogradsku Pasaluku will be left over and we will be lucky to get that. Then maybe after the oil and other resources run out USA will miraculously topple and Serbs will run again with their teeth out to chew the bullets fired at them with the same courage we had under Milosevic and Tito and then we will conquer half of Europe.....29 years will pass and we will lose it all again. Serbia's future and life story so far. Nothing we can do, we have lost everything. But it's not over yet, we will continue to lose more, then it will stop, settle for a while, and we'll get it all back. Listen Albanians, I am admitting, you have defeated us, but in that you have made a terrible mistake. Be very careful, your ignorance is very very very dangerous. And when the time comes, and God can strike me down now if it does not come, and the Serbs rise like the Bolsheviks, you will flee for your lives, and when you are caught you will ask God why you were ever born, you will beg, I mean beg for mercy. The Danube is getting dirty, it is green, when that time comes it will be crimson my brothers and your body parts will be floating in it, there will be no mercy, and our rise cannot be stopped, Albanians will be myth from then on, you will be the dinosaurs of Europe. I warn you to stop, but obviously you won't listen, I'm just a pissy Serb, what can I do? Be careful. Talk all you want about how great Albania is and how Serbs are shit fighters, how the KLA are the best, stronger than the US and how the Albanians are the strong eagles, fearless etc on the internet. Have fun, but when you sleep at night think of me, and think of what I have written, that day will come and you will pretend you are an Italian or Greek and just the thought of Albania will send shivers down your spine and you will look back on yourself and say My God why didn't we just leave Kosovo alone. Then maybe Serbs would be our friends and we would still exist. The end. Good night.

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Alex Belgrade		01-Jun-2006 11:14
Stefan, I am happy if you are happy! Enjoy the Cup. We have a chance to do well in this one. I am not pesimistic.... on the contrary I am very optimistic that Serbia will be independent soon. GO BLUE!!! P.S. I enjoyed your description of how the Brits rediscovered their nationalism. Too bad it's only for the World Cup :) Cheers.

Zoltan		31-May-2006 07:25
Hi Guys, Since pbase is one of my favourite sites I just jumped in to check how the content has changed. Alex, you have become too pessimistic. Regarding Stefan's question I think that Serbia can get very far, just remember the Croatian squad's performance in 1998.

Guest		30-May-2006 20:49
Alex, Come on man lighten up, it's the World Cup for Christ's Sake, there aren't any Montenegrin players man, but I'm gonna miss one outstanding Montenegrin player in our youth team called Vucinic, man he is spectacular.... Relax a bit bro, it's the World Cup season, I love the World Cup more than anything, more than Olympics, more than Euro, more than everrryyyythhhiiinnngggg. And the fact Serbia is in it makes it miles and miles better, too bad Greece, Romania and Slovenia didn't get in. Man, I just go down to the fucking pub which I usually hate but it's full of people during the World Cup and the Euro, during the final of the Euro is when I hooked up with my Greek girlfriend......that is a special time for the whole of England and it is beautiful to see the otherwise non-exitsant nationalism and pride suddenly spring up with the English flag on every car, house, builing etc. It reminds me of the spirit of the Balkans and it is beautiful! NAPRED PLAVI!!!

Alex Belgrade		30-May-2006 18:31
Stefan, I think SCG will go very far, as far as the game is concerned. The problem is not with our game, it's with our politics. As long as I do not see a Serbian flag and the name of Serbia and our national anthem BOZE PRAVDE, I really do not care how far we will go - Serbia and Montenegro as a country does not exist any more. Many players have the same opinion. When we finally have BOZE PRAVDE, you will see with how much more patriotism and positive energy they will all play for Serbia. We also have to wait and see how the players from Montenegro, if any, will behave. Will they play with us one last time? Will they ditch the team? Will they start to advocate the independent Montenegro? However, from the moment we become Serbia, I will cheer for all of our boys and girls, very passionatelly. Right now I am passive - living in a non-existant country, with symbols that have long ago been over passed by time, and waiting to see what happens. Politics is in every pore of our society. Make no mistake, it's also within the World Cup.

Guest		30-May-2006 17:40
OK........anyway.... Nobody answered my question before that read as follows: "So, what are your guys' professional opinions as observers of the beautiful game: how far do you guys reckon SCG will go in the World Cup, it's like 3 weeks away now, I really can't wait, the first World Cup we have ever entered as Serbia, I am hoping we can further boost our reputation as the squad with Europe's tightest defence and best up-and-comers. It's gonna be tough though, we have the "Group of Death" consisting of: -Argentina -Netherlands -Serbia and Montenegro (are any of our damn players from that shit hole anyway or are they all Serbs?) -and Africa's best team and the groups worst team; Cote d'Ivore (Coast of Ivory). I hope we can scrape 2nd place, I think Netherlands will cruise the group but we can battle for 2nd, afterall if there is anything we're good at, it's causing upsets and battling (then losing after hehehehe). Ivory Coast will be last, then argies, then Serbs, then the Dutch..........hopefully :P I guess we'll see, nothing left to say except: NAPRED PLAVI!!!! SRBIJA ZAUVEK!!" So.........what do u guys think? Oh and btw thanks Tirana for your support, you seem like a decent Albanian, you must be ashamed of your countrymen somewhat acting non-stop in such a barbaric way? Also the fact that you know 3 languages is impressive, I also speak 3 languages. And that you study abroad instead of using your intelligence for crime. These are all good aspects that are very rare for Albanians so....well done. I hope you understand that I just can't ever support Albania in anything because of what you are taking from us, our history, our Holy Land, that is our Jerusalem and your people have no right whatsoever, why can't you just be calm like blacks and Pakis in the West, they hate whites but they don't try to make their counties autonomous etc. Anyway, good luck with your studies/exams. Bye CCCC

Vlad		30-May-2006 11:42
Only a thing Alex, what's meaning KRADOMAN?

Tirana		30-May-2006 10:30
Hello everyone, I'm glad that everything has become normal here again. I dont want to interrupt your discussion so i want say nothing more. Just one thing : i wish you good luck in the World cup and i will be supporting Serbia (as the only Balkan country). I wish also you can make it through the final in the Under 21 European cup. Bye

Alex Belgrade		30-May-2006 09:27
Vlad, Many people who support Tito do not support Milosevic. They do not realise that Milosevic is from "the same school", the SPS claimed to be the successors of the Communists. Then, of course, we have those cases such as Stefan, who support both Tito and Milosevic. That's all over now. Then, there are cases such as myself, that support neither Tito, nor Milosevic. We must look ahead and that means - into the EU. That is our only future.

Alex Belgrade		30-May-2006 09:22
Stefan Serb, Yeah whatever. You guys are never gonna be in power again. You can blame others all you want but the fact is Milosevic was in power when Serbia was totally devastated. Of course, living in London and talking about how great it was during Milosevic, does not make sense. You should have been here, bro. Vlad, you don't need to know Serbian ministers anyway. Trust me, you did not miss anything in this world.

Vlad		29-May-2006 22:50
Excuse me if I write about an unknown argoument for me like former serbian governments, but I'm very curious to afly what's meaning KRADOMAN and why Alex has a bad consideration about the ministers of Sps. I know Zivadin Jovanovic because I saw him in a CNN interview few years ago, he seems me not a bad person. I knew Milan Milutinovic who seems me a politic with a SOVIET sharm. I knew a very ugly person like Draskovic who contested Milosevic before and after became his Prime Minister. But I don't know anothers Sps's politic-men. I want to tell you my experience in your Country, who are also our friend border Country: when I together my family went in italy to visit the family of my dad, we crossed until 1991 Serbia, after that year for 14 years we don't corssed Serbia because we know that in former yugoslav space were unfortunately that drammatic war that you know. Also if Serbia hadn't war until 1999, we don't crossed Serbia because after we musted cross also croatia where the war effects were at that period very consistents. In these 14 years, every year when I went in Italy crossing hungary I ask myself How can be changed Serbia who are so near. I remember Belgrade, your good Autoput, I remember when I sleep until 1991 every year in Hotel Srbija in Belgrade, I remember the west and beautiful shops of Former Yugoslavia. Therefore I was until last year, when I crossed Serbia after all these years, very very curious and excited to see a Country that I remember only in the years when I was kid. Crossed the border, when I came in Serbia I think that all that i saw must be only in the good and in the bad the effect of the politic of the man who rules Serbia in all these years when I don't came there. I must confess that was very very different than Tito's Serbia of 14 years ago. I see your large motorroad who show your developed past of Tito's era, but that Motorroad was in working, and certainly I saw a beautiful Country with very disponible peoples who unfortunately wasn't comparable with its past under Tito's government. Therefore I think that under Milosevic years many many things regress in the economical plain. Your serbs like our romanians under monarchy of King Carol and Mihai Hoenzollern Veringen, knew a gold era under Tito. Our two countries are few of the balkan countries who knew a developed time and a gold era. Romania under King Carol had the same standard of French, Italy, UK, Germany, and other western countries. Serbia under Tito's era knew also the same standard of French, UK, Italy etc... it's incredible how history can be changed so quickly by few leadres in good and in bad aspects.

Guest		29-May-2006 21:22
Alex, Whatever bro I can't be bothered to repeat myself over and over I've made it clear before why we lost Krajina (Babic not co-operating etc) and got sanctions so I'm not going to continue, all I know is that I don't ever recall any of Milosevic or Tito's ministers trying to kick the presenter of a TV show like a barbarian savage. Regards; Stefan

Alex Belgrade		29-May-2006 18:21
Stefan Serb, You have GOT to be kidding man. I have plenty of remarks regarding today's ministers, I do not think they are perfect, of course. But, they they are not keeping Serbia in permanent isolation and wars. My life is much better now than under Milosevic and I think most people would agree. But, let's look at Slobo's ministers. Prime Minister Mirko Marjanovic, foreign minister Zivadin Jovanovic (100 years old with no English) - the people called him Zika Paprika, Prime Minister Radoman (KRADOMAN) Bozovic, Minister Nikola Sainovic, Minister Buba Morina.... ha ha ha ha ha ha let's not forget Zorica Brunclik. She alsmost made it to be the Minister of Culture. ahahahahaha We sure "loved" all these guys! I haven't laughed this much in a LONG time. Thank you. Milosevic - the best lawyer in the Balkans. God send? Oh, man! Someone has really messed up with your head. Seselj will never GET OUT, and Milosevic will never GET UP, and neither will Tito. Ivica Dacic is too incompetent to do anything. Without Slobo, the Socialists are dead. You LOSE. Sorry. P.S. How come the left wing Socialists are supporting the right wing Radicals? Isn't that Nazism? National-Socialism. Nationalism + Socialism?? Didn't you see how that worked out for Serbia. By the way, none of today's ministers had lost Kosovo. Milosevic and Seselj lost it. Period. And what about Krajina?? I'd rather have a Western type of democracy, thank you very much. You guys are all fucked up in the head and I am very sorry about that. Bye

Guest		29-May-2006 16:53
Alex, Here is your Minister for Privatization, when we have these fucking idiots in power do you expect Serbia to move forward, I haven't ever even seen in Africa such a thing, even Albanians should laugh at us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zei7hQLTzUc&search=serbia Enjoy man, I don't need to ever say another thing to prove my point, this is the polititians in power of Serbia today.......Milosevic and Seselj are a godsend. Seselj youngest ever doctor in the Balkans and Former Jugoslavija, Milosevic best ever lawyer of the Balkans.........end of. Regards.

TOO SERB		29-May-2006 01:15
I think Serbia should go Royal Bring back the King

Alex Belgrade		28-May-2006 19:01
Stefan, As opposed to you, I KNOW what you are talking about. All this is true - Yugoslavia was a prosperous country, but it would have been better off as a capitalist country. It was all a lie that fell apart like a bubble of soap. It fell apart the moment the Berlin Wall came down and when the ideology was worn away. I understand what you are saying. But you do not want to sink in all the arguments I have given against Tito. You do not want to sink in that he was an anti-Serb, a non-Serb, a non - Christian. He made a strong Yugoslavia out of a weak Serbia. The weaker Serbia was, the stronger Yugoslavia was. We paid a huge price for that. Once you understand that, and once my very good points sink in, then we can talk. Are you telling me that you would like to rejoin again with the Croats, Bosnian Muslims, Kosovo Albanians, Montenegrins, Slovenes, like nothing had happened? Perhaps we have not been stabbed in the back once too many times?? I would never again remake Yugoslavia - we have had 3 and all have fallen apart. When is enough-enough? When will we turn to our own state? That country, Yugoslavia, does not exist anymore, and neither does Tito, and neither does Slobo. For your own personal happiness I suggest you use that patriotism of yours for SERBIA. It's about time we started thinking about ourselves. I am against the Radical Party and the Socialists. They will never have power again. The pro-Western parties will always unite and beat them. If the radicals and the mickey mouse Socialists come to power again, Serbia will be isolated again in 3 months, and it will be at war within 6 months, in war with its neighbors and with Nato again! That would mean the end of Serbia, its total destruction, occupation and breakup. Where Radicals and Socialists had defended Serbs, there are no more Serbs left. Pro-Western parties are the only way out. Like I said, we need to play by the West's rules, we need to say what they want us to say... You guys, you Communists, Radicals will never again have your chance to destroy and rob Serbia. Democracy will prevail and we will be in the EU. And there is NOTHING you can do about that. Absolutely nothing. You can be pissed off, like I know you are, you can start insulting everyone like you have already done, you can kick my ass with your fancy karate, but that still does not change anything. I am sorry, my friend, but you are on the losing side, and you will remain there forever, unless you change something. That's why I am saying, turn your strong Yugoslav patriotism to Serbian patriotism. We have a chance to work together for the benefit of our country, soon to be called SERBIA again. If you do not change, we will just argue all the time. I respect you very much, but there are some things we will never agree on. Never. I am so sorry about that.

Vlad		28-May-2006 11:03
Don't be so pessimist serbian friends. Montenegro is a small State who in EU will count never, but Serbia wil have in its EU' s futur more more influences. Belgrade was choosed by Financial Times like the city of the futur, while Podgorica is only a small (also if pretty) town.

Guest		27-May-2006 21:30
Alex, Sorry about that I kinda strayed off the point, the point I'm trying to make is how I love Socialism and Tito and SFRJ and it is sad that it is just part of our history and that we will never again be like that, but I also now know that if we want to progress in the Capitalist World and integrate into the West we need to play their game, we need to work the system that is built on exploitation in order to defeat it. We need to align ourselves in NATO and the EU, build ourselves up again from ruin, then when we are even half as great as before, and we have authority, we can make demands and get back what is rightfully ours, but we need to work hard, be productive and get back the Radical Party man these muppets in Government are taking the piss. Enough of that now........... So, what are your guys' professional opinions as observers of the beautiful game: how far do you guys reckon SCG will go in the World Cup, it's like 3 weeks away now, I really can't wait, the first World Cup we have ever entered as Serbia, I am hoping we can further boost our reputation as the squad with Europe's tightest defence and best up-and-comers. It's gonna be tough though, we have the "Group of Death" consisting of: -Argentina -Netherlands -Serbia and Montenegro (are any of our damn players from that shit hole anyway or are they all Serbs?) -and Africa's best team and the groups worst team; Cote d'Ivore (Coast of Ivory). I hope we can scrape 2nd place, I think Netherlands will cruise the group but we can battle for 2nd, afterall if there is anything we're good at, it's causing upsets and battling (then losing after hehehehe). Ivory Coast will be last, then argies, then Serbs, then the Dutch..........hopefully :P I guess we'll see, nothing left to say except: NAPRED PLAVI!!!! SRBIJA ZAUVEK!!

Guest		27-May-2006 21:15
Alex, You don't understand man, I know I am a Serb, that is my ethnicity but I love Jugoslavija, it is a romantic concept for me of all Southern Slavs uniting and economically overtaking many Western countries. I love Communism, and I love Jugoslavija, because never have we had such a prosperous country as then, never has our society been so well formed and our lives so great, everything was the best under SRFJ and Tito. I love Tito despite all he did to us because under his reign did our country prosper more than ever, Serbia can never match such standards as before by itself, We maybe can improve to become like Poland an dthe rest of those mickey mouse forgotten countries with no more identity, but we can NEVER be as prosperous and great as we were during Jugoslavija. I simply love Tito because he held together our great country and repressed all the Croatian independence seperatists. The reasons for why Jugo prospered is not just from aid we got, come on man you know that's not true, unemployment was miniscule, everyone had comfortable salaries, there were no homeless people, education was excellent, society was excellent, Jugoslavs was one of the most respected nationalitities on Earth, our passports were the most valued, we could visit anywhere without a visa, both sides of the Iron Curtain, our dinar was strong, inflation was non-existant EVERYTHING WAS PERFECT MAN, it was a paradise for all the beauty of the Balkans to be under one state, Serbs, Croats, Muslims, Slovenes all lived side by side, married, mixed blood, we all pretty much were the same. Since democracy came, religion came, people realized their differences, they became enemies, they followed myth instead of fact and rationability, if Croatia and Slovenia stayed in Jugoslavija they would be worse off? RUBBISH they would be even better off, everyone would, there would be no more hate and death, war etc. 1990+ everything has gne to shit, it is still continuing. And what is sad is that Jugoslavija can never again reunite because now we all know what Croats and Bosnjaks (no such race) Muslims are like. There you go mate, that's it, on one hand I love Jugoslavija, but on the other side I think if Serbia was more selfish where we'd be today, anyway, nothing we can do now, Serbia is fucked, we'll see what happens now, I am starting to lose interest man, I'm sick of all this shit, if I was a Brit or Frenchman I wouldn't have to worry about this shit, but because I am a Serb I do and I'm sick of it, jerking backwards and forwards. You think our education will ever recover? You think our Vojska and morale will ever be as great and large? No, a few years will pass and we'll only have Beogradski Pasaluk, we are a dying nation, our birthrate is too low, we are "too civilized" we should go like Albanians and have 20 kids per family, that seems to be the only way to be successful in our excellent region isnt it? Makes me sick. People will always be great, as will culture, food, Belgrade, but our civil services will go up and down, but we all know it, they will never again peak like in SFRJ. Anyway man, let's talk about some other shit, this makes me depressed man, makes me angry and it is precicely this rage I want to get rid of, but my friend as you know, there is too much injustice for this frustration to simply evapourate. Our people are suppressed and the wierdest thing is that no matter how much we try to show people this the World always seems to be ignorant of it. There is this unbelievable ignorant atmosphere here in London where people don't know anything anymore, they just know what their TV tells them, then after a couple of days they lose interest and forget, they feel bad about an old English man who gets kidnapped and beheaded in Iraq for about 5 mins, then they think about what's on the soap operas, it is sick. It's quite confusing that nobody feels any shame here anymore, no matter how big the amount of people telling them the same thing, which is the obvious truth, they will always confide with John Sno on the channel 4 news everyday at 7pm and dismiss everything that he doesn't agree with. FUCK THE WEST.

Alex Belgrade		26-May-2006 21:45
Stefan, You say we should go to Croatia again to the seaside? No, way, man! I will go to Greece, thank you very much!!! And Spain, and Malta. And Bulgaria. And Tunisia... Never to Croatia, never to Montenegro. NEVER. I want nothing with any of them anymore. If I could, I would build a wall bigger than the Chinese one, to clearly mark the division line between us and those other Southern Slavs. Then we could all live in peace once and for all. That Yugoslav kid in you is strangling the Serbian kid, who comes out to the surface every once in a while. I personally hope the Serbian kid will prevail!

Alex Belgrade		26-May-2006 21:40
Part 2 So, I agree that Yugoslavia was successful. But, if it was built on true foundations, it would not have collapsed so quickly. After so much bloodshed that we have spilled for nothing, you still wish we renew the state with Croats, Slovenes, Bosnian Muslims, Montenegrins... after everything that has happened, after all the times they all stabbed us in the back??? I find that hard to believe. As far as I am concerned, Yugoslavia is part of history and that's that. You should not compare JBT to Tsar Dusan. Not only is that an insult to all the God fearing and God loving Serbian people, but is ridiculous. The two men lived in different centuries. May I remind you that the Nemanjics had united the Serbian state, given us Christianity, our own Church, that still lasts today, an Empire that encompassed most of the Balkans - it was much bigger than Yugoslavia, Dusan's Code of Law that was one of the first such legal documents of Europe. May I remind you of the Miroslav's Gospel (Miroslavljevo Jevandjelje), the oldest presrved book in old Serbian cyrrilic. Not to mention all the thousands of churches the Nemanjics built. You can't compare that to the achievements of the 20th century, but the spiritual achievements of the Nemanjics will last for ever, while cars, factories and roads will fall apart in time. Tito was a non believer and an anti-Christ, and he was a non-Serb. He hated Serbs, he thought they were all just peasants who can be manipulated with easily. And he did that. He did not touch the Catholic Church, but he did split the Serbian Orthodox Church, he did create the Montenegrin and Macedonian Orthodox Church... He made Muslims in Bosnia a NATION, instead of a religion... If Communism had remained just for another 50 years, we Serbs would have completely lost our faith and would have forgotten about who we are and what we are, we would have completely melted away like an unknown mass of people. The father of our nation is Stefan Nemanja, not JBT. Our spiritual father is St. Sava and not Lenin. And don't you forget it! And don't you ever tell me that Tito was greater than the God loving Serbian Tsar Dusan!!! You are confused, you can't shake Yugoslavia out of your system. I did that a long time ago, and let me tell you - it is great to rediscover Serbia once again - our nature, customs, history. Like I said, there is a Serb in you with a lot of love and potential, but he is often confused because of Communism, Yugoslavia, Tito, Milosevic and all that, which is now and forever gone. The sooner you let it all go, and the sooner you accept SERBIA as your one and only country - your Father and Mother, the better it will be for you. I mean it. I am sick of this discussion. Please do NOT get into this stuff with me, you know how I will react. Why don't we just place all that in history books, and let future generations study it, and why don't we focus on the future of our country, that country now being Serbia? Is that so hard for you?

Alex Belgrade		26-May-2006 21:40
Stefan, Communism has poisoned your mind and soul. In there, deep inside, I see a Serb in you waking up, but he is confused by the virus of Communism and Yugoslavia. As long as any one Serb goes to the cemetary of that Godless anti-Christ named JBT, who was the biggest destroyer of Serbdom since the dawn of time, Serbia will not prosper. Tito gave Baranja away to Croatia, for "balance", and split Serbia (and only Serbia) into 2 autonomies. Tito's regime killed as many as 200,000 Serbs - there are mass graves of Communist firing squads all over Belgrade and Serbia. By the way, that is more than the Germans had killed - they killed about 70,000 Serbs. The only ones who killed more Serbs were the Croatian Ustashe. The so called communist Liberation was in fact Red Terror of Communism replacing the Black Terror of the Nazis and Fascists. Not to mention the confiscation of private and Church property (if they hadn't done that Kosovo would still be a land in the hands of our Church), they made peasants give the state cows, milk, wool, grain... This biggest stealing of land, homes, factories, forests etc - they called "reforms". Yugoslavia in the 1940s and 50s was just another Stalinist state. Later on it changed course. It became the most successful communist country - that is true, but do you not think that it would have been more successful as a capitalist country? It was not the result of the productivity of the Yugoslav economy, it was the 60 billion US dollars that America had poured into Yugoslavia over the decades, as a balance against the Soviet Union. The Soviets also gave a lot of money to Yugoslavia as a counter balance regarding the USA. Tito just milked both super powers for cash and ruled like a Red Tsar for eternity. TO BE CONTINUED

Guest		26-May-2006 21:33
Vlad, You don't understand man, we don't want Montenegro, they want to go let them go, they are not giving us any benefits apart from Serbs like to go to the seaside in Summer, but now the Croats are building motorways direct the Trogir, Pula, Split and Dubrovnik from Belgrade so we can go there, it is nicer there, better value for money, cleaner, more developed, equally as beautiful and better overall in all aspects, Croats are a worker peoples, not so hardworking as Slovenians but they have inherited that worker mentality from Austro-Hungaria which is better for everyone. We will have to communicate with Croats one time or another, or rather them with us, we are both Slavic peoples, they are not arian or any of that crap, they are dark haired, dark eyed bulky Slavs exactly like us. I am sick of all this shit about how they are superior, they are not, if anything they are inferior, they are sneaky and crap at fighting which seems to be the only thing Slavs are good at! haha Montenegrins don't like Serbia, they want to be in the EU, then let them go, we won't die without them, but I fear they will die without us. It is no loss, it needs to happen to complete the breakup of our former state, hopefully as Alex says we can start a new, but with those muppets in charge nothing will change comrade, nothing. But we'll see, nothing is for sure anymore. Good night my friend.

Alex Belgrade		26-May-2006 21:07
Stefan Serb, My dear brother, now you are beginning to think like me. I also think we should have been the FIRST to say no to those Germanic Croats and Slovenes and all the rest. What makes them so goddamn special? Why do they deserve a state, and we do not? I also think we should have gone to the end - the Yugoslav Army should have just taken the whole of Yugoslavia, all its borders, proclaim martial law, arrest all the separatists and have them shot. Any normal country would do so. But, things have happened and there is nothing we can do. That's all history now. Don't get me wrong. Yugoslavia was a country of my birth and childhood, and a part of me died when Yugoslavia died. But, my heart now, and ever since 1991 - when everything went straight to Hell, my heart beats only for Serbia. I am proud to be Serb and I am glad to once again have a state called by its real name. Serbia. Srbija. Period. As for the Montenegrin work ethics, they are truly lazy, they will never make their country like Monte Carlo, Luxemburg or Liechetnstein. Like I said, I wish them all the best - and now we should turn to our own state. It feels nice to have Serbia reborn as a state. Remember, we have been around for a thousand years, give or take. So, LONG LIVE our country Serbia. For your own sake, I suggest you bury Yugoslavia, Tito and Milosevic somewhere deep in your mind, and I suggest you give your entire being to Serbia. It will be better for you. Yugoslavia is gone. It has been gone ever since 1991. Calling Serbia and Montenegro Yugoslavia did not feel right. Calling it Serbia and Montenegro was too long. I thank God Serbia is again - Serbia. Vlad is right, Kosovo will hurt us more than Montenegro. That's because Montenegro has had a recognized state - from 1878 until 1918. Then it became part of various Yugoslavias. But, Kosovo had never had a state, and that's going to hurt. But, remember, it will not be the first time we lost it. One day, with God's help, we will get it back again. Maybe in 100 years, maybe in 500 years, but one day God will make everything all right. My brother, let us stand together proudly, raise our Serbian flag, let us sing our Serbian national anthem - Boze pravde (God of Justice) and let us all work for the benefit of our country. This is not about politics anymore. This is about Serbia. We should be happy and proud to have our state back once more. This is a great historical moment and a great opportunity for us to turn to ourselves and forget about all those ungrateful South Slavs who all stabbed us in the back. I will go to church and praise the Lord for giving us this chance for a new historic beginning of our country. What was, is now over. What will be - is our new beginning. Amin!

Vlad		26-May-2006 16:07
Certainly the referendum of Montenegro can be seems as a bad joke given by montenegrininas to serbs, but in your place I don't consider that, because independetists won with few points and half of that small region love Serbia. Therefore probabily never is still lost, because half of that peoples doesn't accept with a smile that decision. That referendum was far far than the referendum of croatia when 90% of peoples choosed the independence. In Montenegro Djukanovic can't say that his proposal had success. Another point: also if Montenegro go away, consider also the good aspect: Serbia in that case can have finally its own State named Serbia and stop. In that situation Serbia can to have its hymn "Boze Pravde", its flag. Now that Jugoslavia not exist and that name died few years ago, what reason have to call a state Serbia-Montenegro? In my opionion also in Serbia now could be good a referendum. FOR SERBIA IS MORE MMORE IMPORTANT KOSOVO WHO IS A PART OF IT, THAN MONTENEGRO. Therefore mine serbian friends I wish you to not lost Kosovo and also to mantain Montenegro but not to consider the eventual independence of Podgorica a lost. And finally: that referendum isn't the formal act of Montenegro's independence, for it will be many many tractatives, also because half of that populations want to mantain the union with Belgrade.

Guest		26-May-2006 14:10
Alex, I don't hate Montenegrins, but I dislike their work ethic, I prefer Slovenians to them, we didn't have war with Slovenia (we should have made a golf course of Slovenia, give them a bloody nose then we'll see how many of us they try to kill sneakily, if we reduced Ljubljana, Maribor, Ptuj and all the rest to be flat like a carpark or hilly like a golf course there would be no successful republic that they have today) but anyway, they have a great workers mentality, they are advanced of us in terms of work, they work their asses off in order to progress, they are not lazy. Montenegrins are the total opposite, no work, all complain, they want to cut off the hand that feeds them? Fine, we should have told them to fuck off a long time ago instead of trying to preserve what was once great. Can you imagine what would have happened if in 1989 or 90 Serbia said we want independence from you Croat and Slovenian etc oppressors, would have been a different story, no? But instead we tryed desperately to hold Jugoslavija together, then when it became aparent this was impossible instead of conquering all of Jugoslavija so we were in complete control (then maybe Krajina and Slavonia would be autonomous and Kosovo would not be today) instead we just stopped our advance at the ethnic lines, to protect our people in Croatia and Bosnia, we should have marched to the border with Italy and South to the border with Greece lighting everything in our path that belonged to the enemy, a war is a motherfucking war bro!! But instead no, we only went halfway and we lost everything, If Babic and Karadzic would have listened to Milosevic Serbia would be a whole lot bigger, and Croatia a whole lot smaller. If you do something you do it properly, that is the end of it. Regards; Stefan CCCC

Alex Belgrade		26-May-2006 10:36
Cora Bria and Monica Luna You fucking bitch, stop posting that gambling shit on here. What the hell is your problem anyway??

Alex Belgrade		26-May-2006 10:34
Stefan Serb, You are a very bitter and angry young man. I am sorry for your loss and the defeat of your political idea and party. But, as opposed to you, I am an optimist. I believe that the pro Western governments in Serbia are necessary. If we play nice, we just might get something without the total destruction of our nation. Milosevic was the one who sacrificed his nation, his country's name, past and history. He LOST EVERYTHING. He tried to save Yugoslavia by force. In the end he lost Yugoslavia, and Kosovo. Not only did Yugoslavia get smaller, but so did Serbia. He was the one who lost Kosovo, who started the unwinnable war against the whole world, he was the one who pulled out and celebrated victory on his media. WHAT THE HELL ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?? Milosevic lost everything, he sacrificed our past and our future, and our future governments will have to spend decades to fix all of Milosevic's and Tito's mistakes. The very fact Communists are/were not believers in Christ, should explain the downfall of their ideology and the destruction of everything they had touched and created. As opposed to you, I am not angry at Montenegro. It used to be an internationally recognized state, as was Serbia. They have every right to renew their state. All I can do is wish them good luck. They will loose Serbian tourists and support, and they will search for those elsewhere - from Croats, Albanians?? Who knows? Good luck to them and thank God we do not have to pay for that disfunctional State Union. With places like Slovenia, Macedonia and Kosovo - they NEVER existed as sovereign states, I am angry at them, but I guess that's something we will have to get used to. I hope the people of Montenegro will find whatever they are looking for. Now it's time for Serbia to turn to itself. Once and for all. Praised be the Lord. Amin!

Guest		22-May-2006 16:19
Cora Bria, Monica whatever.........shut the fuck up nobody wants to play backgammon and blackjack with you, u sad fucks. Stop posting that shit. I am also glad Serbia is no longer with Montenegro!! Montenegro has been wanted to pull away for ages and they complain that we are dragging them down? ALL of their national revenue is from Serbian tourists that go there in the Summer for the wonderful seaside they have. They have fuck all and unless the US and Germany decide to forget Croatia which is far better and invest tons and tons in Montenegro they will become poor like FYROM. I am sick of them, they are all lazy, they don't work, they always complain about Serbs who put food on their goddamn plate and make their country function. Do you think the money Serbian tourists spent there went back to Belgrade for the whole Union to use? NO it went straight to Podgorica. In Summer they only have running water for like 8 hours or so a day if not less, and they are hoping to split from the people who give them a lifeline? Good for them, let them have fun on their own. This is a good day for me, but when Kosovo goes it will not be a good day, and if Milosevic was still in power if I could I would do whatever I could to stop it, I would fly there, take up my rifle and take the men of my village down to Kosovo (they still have all grenades and other weapons left over) and we will wipe out the KLA in a matter of days. But now what do Serbs have to fight for? We have almost nothing left, Alex is an optimist and thinks things will change now, they won't I guarantee it. Our Vojska is even shit now, there is no morale and dicipline is nothing near to what it was when I served. Serbs cannot fight for a Government that will sacrifice their own people for EU membership and does not protect it's people. I hope Serbia can move forward honestly I do, but it does not look promicing. They can repair a few facades in Belgrade but that will make no difference, the whole country needs a new facade. Regards everyone; Stefan SERB Samo Sloga Srbina Spasava!!

Alex Belgrade		22-May-2006 08:35
Since Montenegro has voted for independence, not only has it become independent once more, but, automatically, so has Serbia. That means - for the first time since 1918, Serbia will be a fully recognized, independent, sovereign state, with full domestic and international state capacity. For the first time since 1918, it will once again have the Serbian Army, Foreign Affairs Ministry and so forth. The Yugoslav national symbols will finally be dropped once and for all. Instead, the Serbian flag shall rise in New York, Geneva, Brussels, Moscow, Paris, London, Rome, and elsewhere. Montenegro's independence has finally ended the dissolvement of Yugoslavia, a process which lasted for 16 agonizing years. I wish to congratulate the brotherly state of Montenegro its newly rediscovered statehood, and I wish to the people of Serbia the same thing. Things are slowly falling into place. Everything is coming together like a puzzle. LONG LIVE THE SOVEREIGN, INDEPENDENT and FULLY CAPACITATED, INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED STATE OF SERBIA! We still have some things to do, but this is a good start. Last night I have played the Serbian national anthem, kissed the Serbian flag and bowed to it, and wished my beloved Serbia good night, and when I got up, I wished it a happy and shiny good morning! This, after 88 years of experimenting with Yugoslavia, is a truly historic moment for Serbia. I am so happy!!!

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Vlad		21-May-2006 21:58
Stefan, my friend. The problem is that the great power of NATO speak always about justice and human right. But they can't speak about it if they use different considerations for Milosevic's Serbia and Tudjamn's Croatia. You know better than me that while ONU gave to Serbia embargo, Croatia who killed miles of Serbs of Krajina and Slavonia, received help and financial supports and also in a first moment the invitations to enter in EU. Now, many peoples consider that Milosevic and Tudjman were the same. I think that this is a superficial vision. Milosevic committed many mistakes and certainly many serbian problems are caused by him, but different to Tudjman, Slobo was attacked and captured. While Tudjman went everywhere in West to receive econommical helps, Milosevic for a unknown reason was hated in west. I ask me why? Probabily USA thinked that they musted to choose between Serbia and Croatia and they choosed Croatia probabily because they consider Milosevic a communist and Tudjman a friend of west. We can't know the truth. Certainly the truth isn't that official. But certainly Slobo had more more courage than tudjman who kiss US ass while killed miles of Serbs in Knin and Vukovar.

Guest		21-May-2006 17:11
Alex, This is what you don't understand, Yugoslavia was a standing example of Communist success where the nation functioned as it should and created a great country from nothing, from the ruins of war. It was an economical power in Europe, we were up there with France, Italy, the UK even ahead of Spain and Austria. We had a paradise whether you like it or not......people who died were those who plotted against Tito, why do you need to plot against a man who has made your country greater and more successful than ever since we had an empire? Yugoslavia was great and you think Milosevic ruined it? He ruined fuck mate! The West was all smiley to our faces but they fucked us up and you know it.....I am not going to go to all the details about how because you already know. Milosevic lost Krajina and Slavonia? NO! These were lands that were not Serbian as Kosovo is not Albanian, we simply had a majority there for various reasons from history. Milosevic supported Babic and Karadzic in their cause to unite Serbs, but as it became aparent the World's ENTIRE international community did not support this cause it was therefore impossible to win against the whole World, Milosevic was a genius (anyone who knows anything about his trial at the Hague knows this) and he saw that we could not gain a Greater Serbia straight away. Rather he went to gain a greater autonomy for West Slavonia and Krajina, but that pussy Babic didn't listen, he wanted only a Greater Serbia and of course when the World is against you this is impossible. They would not listen to Milosevic, so he pulled out the JNA troops and withdrew support for Krajina. Why should he send his men to die an inevitable death for nothing? Fuck that. You know who I blame for the break-up of Jugoslavija? America? No. Britain and the rest of the West? No. Croats? No. I BLAME SERBS. Are you honestly saying if Milosevic was not the President we would have got our Greater Serbia. Sure mate if you say so. So you didn't want sanctions and that was Milosevic's fault? But you also didn't want to surrender? Not possible my friend. You didn't want to lose Kosovo yet you went and protested against Milosevic when NATO was bombing you because Milosevic refused to surrender in Kosovo where he was purging terrorists and protecting our peoples in our Holy Land? It doesn't work that way bro I'm sorry to say. Milosevic was a great man, he thought only good for Serbs, but Serbs fucked it up. Alex, you liked Djindjic? The man who fled to Germany when the bombs fell and said: "Bomb it more, force them to surrender" and then when he got into office and got shot by the mafia because he fucked them up. He was a mafia man my friend, he fucked with them once he got into power and now he is 6 feet under. Great man. Made our nation look like a joke when he arrested our own goddamn President who stood up against the World for Serbs and shamed him. Fuck Djindjic he was pathetic, a nobody. In Croatia you think they would arrest their own President like Tudjman and send him like a dog abroad? No way, they are proud, they even set up a Government fund so people can donate to support their Ante Gotovina. They are not idiots like us, they know that Tudjman and Gotovina fought for the good of their people not for themselves. I solemnly hope Serbia can progress but I will never stop supporting Milosevic and Seselj and the SRS. Peace bro.

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Vlad		17-May-2006 11:39
To Alex, friend, I thank you for your beautiful words, you must know that we also like Serbia and its peoples. I remember when we defeated Ceausescu, in Timisoara, many serb youngs came to celebrate that happy day with us. I also like Serbia, and I also was very happy to cross last summer after 13 years, your Country. Listen to me Alex. Don't be so pessimist. Serbia is Europe, and you can see that also West will understand that. EU can't refuse a great peoples like serbs who in the past defend Europe together us, against turk aggression. I'm very very angry to see that EU want to accept Turkey who is our enemies, and don't speak with serbs who gave their life with their glorious Prince Lazar, to defend also Bruzelles, Wien and western capitols by Ottoman invasion. Instead to be grateful with us, West media love only to say that we are a sort of devils. Your parents visited my Country and I'm glad that they like it. I also like Serbia, expecially Belgrade who are full of life. You serbs are like us , because you love life and you love to enjoy and to work honestly like us. Probabily our common Orthodox valours do us very similar. I want to say you that in Timisoara, many markets are writed in chirillyc serbian character, because we have a great serbian minority who are loved by us. Excuse me if I don't named more important serbian personalities, but certainly you know them better than me. I think that Serbia gave to world not only important heroes but also important scientists, I knew the name of them but unfortunately I forgot them. Yes our language same italian, my father understood very quickly Romanian and I also speak well italian with my cousins from there. But we have also slave important influences in our language with words like: "ulica", "prietene", "da", "draga", "slobod" etc... be optmist "prietene", Serbia is a good peoples with many resources I'm sure that you will developing more than Croatia or Slovenia very quickly. Together us. Stefan, you also are from Belgrade? I know that Alex is 31 and from your Capitol. And you? Certainly you are young like us and love to see the pretty girls of Kneza Mihajlova, probabily if I can, this summer I'll come in Belgrade, will be good to meet we three and to see together the pretty models of Kneza Mihajlova. certainly I will do the same in Timisoara with you . We also have very pretty girls. ah! ah! ah! Don't consider me a crazy, but certainly you know that we romanians like to enjoy like us. Se you as soon.

Alex Belgrade		16-May-2006 23:02
Stefan, Vlad. It's pointless to discuss whether Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Baltic States etc are more developed than Serbia. They are. The Baltic states, if I am not mistaken, are in the EU, and so are the Hungarians and Czechs and Poles, and Bulgarians and Romanians and Croatians will be also, soon. You can't just blame the West for everything. YOUR HERO Milosevic was the one who really messed us up. Thanks to him, we will be the last to enter the EU. Thanks to him, never has our name been so tarnished, never have we endured so many defeats in such a short time, never has Serbia felt so alone. They are ALL doing better than Serbia. Only Montenegro, Bosnia and Albania are not doing better. I have been to Bulgaria and I can say that we still have a better life than them, but they will be in the EU next year and we will not. We will even need a visa for Bulgaria. I mean, JESUS. What are we talking about?? We should face the reality. We are going to be the last to enter the EU. Even Albania and Macedonia will probably enter it before us. That is a political decision and not an economic one. As long as you keep on saying that people like Milosevic, Mladic, Karadzic etc are heroes - people that the West does not consider as such, we will NEVER enter the EU. Stefan, you should find some heroes that the West actually likes :) Thank God all Serbs do not think like you, otherwise this country would stay in an eternal isolation, for ever. And that is something I do not want.

Alex Belgrade		16-May-2006 22:50
Stefan, You just can't seem to stop talking about politics. Serbia is fucked up because YOUR HERO Milosevic fucked it up, totally. If we had a different politician we would not have war and sanctions and bombing. Can't you get that into your head?? Milosevic and the West both fucked up Serbia and Yugoslavia. But it was Milosevic's fault because he was in charge of Serbia and he should have led the country wisely. Mladic has to be arrested and will be arrested. One man cannot hold the entire Serbia in isolation. Never has a Serbian officer held his whole country in captivity. If he is innocent, why is he afraid to go to the Hague? Because he knows he is guilty. The talks with the EU have been suspended, and American aid will be suspended also, and also the political support in every institution, now that the Kosovo talks are going on - that is a very bad signal. Sooner or later, all those wanted by the Hague, will be in the Hague. That's that. Then we will end that story once and for all and move on with our lives. Because of YOUR HEROS we will be the last to enter the EU. Because of YOUR HEROES we have lost so many Serbian territories on which Serbs have lived for centuries. I am tired of this. Please stop telling us your personal political opinions, because you will always get a sharp reply from me. Although I respect you in many ways, I will never politically agree with you. And that should be clear. I am an optimist, I believe in God and in Serbia. Although it's in a difficult situation, it will recover and move on. Everything will be okay. Have faith.

Alex Belgrade		16-May-2006 22:40
Vlad, That building is beatiful. At first I thought Stefan posted the picture of the US Congress and I was just about to ask him why on Earth did he do that, then I saw the building is in Romania, and I said - NICE. My parents were in Romania several years ago and they loved the houses, the architecture and castles. The people are friendly and the language is similar to Italian. My parents went on a Balkan Tour with their car. In Bulgaria they were chased by some young Albanians, but they enjoyed the Black Sea and cheap prices. In Hungary and Romania they enjoyed themselves very much also. They then took their car into a ship and unloaded it in Italy - when the Italians saw Serbian license plates, my parents got a round of applause and a Czech man told them: we are so glad to see someone from Serbia again, after such a long time. What can I say, we have been through some very tough times, I am not even sure if any Western nation could survive what we have survived, but, thank God, that's all over.

Alex Belgrade		16-May-2006 22:31
Stefan Serb, Welcome back! I agree with you 100% (for once). The Balkans are a beautiful place. Fucked up by the West, but still beautiful. The hospitality, the pretty ladies, the food, the nightlife, the sports achievements (even though our athletes practice in much worse conditions than their colleagues in the West), the splendid nature, the rich history, the breath taking Orthodox monasteries, churches and frescoes in them, the energy in the street, the warmth, the easy way to establish communication and make new friends, the passion in just about everything... yes. I love the Balkans and I would not trade it for anything else. And above everything else, I love my country Serbia. Stefan, welcome back and thanks for such inspiring comments!

Alex Belgrade		16-May-2006 22:22
Vlad, Did you know that we have Mihai Eminecu Street in Zemun? We do. We used to have Romanian Street (dedicated to Princess Marie of Romania who became the loving Queen of Yugoslavia). After WW 2, the communists changed that street name to Uzicka (after the town of Uzice). Besides, Serbia gave to Europe quite a few more people that you mentioned :) Cheers.

Guest		16-May-2006 04:59
I am from Amsterdam where I study history. I did not say that Slovenia, Hungary or the Czech Republic are on Swiss level, I just stated that both Prague and Budapest are beautiful places, though they look very differently. The reason why I posted a comment was based on Alex's statement that all cities in the West are the same. Just come to the Lowlands and see the difference between Amsterdam and Brussels, or see that between London and Paris. I can tell you that they are as diverse as possible.

Guest		15-May-2006 19:05
Vlad is absolutely correct, and I would not put Poland, Slovakia, Lithuania and other Baltic states that far ahead of us in terms of development, I have seen many photos from this place and I wouldn't even put us ahead of us, maybe their roads are better but that is because they haven't had 10 year sanctions, civil war, economic collapse and 3 month bombardment of all infrastructure by the World's biggest force. Those countries for me are pathetic, I can admitt that Hungary is now more developed that us, as is Czech Republic but all the other mickey mouse states (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, Ukraine, Poland) no way. It is sad that now I must compare my once great state to Poland and other mickey mouse nations when before I could compare it to France, Spain and UK (not Switzerland or Germany). Oh well, Serbia is pretty fucked up now, I don't see a way back, I don't know whether to be happy or sad we didn't give up Mladic and the EU talks are off. On one hand I love Mladic he is a great hero of ours, a strong protector of Serbs across the former Jugoslavija who faced hoffifying torture and abuse from the newly emerging Croatian (Nazi) state. On the other hand I don't know whether to sacrifice him for all the Serbs living in Serbia whose lives would no doubt improve significantly upon entering the EU. I dunno man, I will never know, I will just work hard, prosper and support my family in the Motherland. When I have a child, he will be raised as a true Serb. Regards everyone; Stefan

Vlad		15-May-2006 13:09
danny, certainly Slovenia, Czech republik, Poland and these countries who came in 2004 in EU are more developed than the countries of our Region. But if you see, the architeture, the monuments and the history things are the same or in some case less than our. Slovenia, Czech Republik and Poland, have better infrastructure and wages than us , this is without discussion, but we have here towns who have the same architeture and beautiful attractions of them. In Romania we have towns who have hasburguch architecture like Timisoara, Cluj Napoca, Brasov, Targu Mures, Oradea, Bistrita, and also towns who have german saxon architeture like Sibiu ( the cultural capitol of EU in 2007), Medias, Sighisoara and Biertan. All these towns have never less than towns of Slovenia or Czech republik, also because they developed very well their infrastructure in these last years. For example Sibiu, after 5 years of great restructuration works, now have never less Lubiana ( who have 200000 inhabitants like it) or Krakow or Bratislava. Brasov is known like the Salzburg of the east, and also there its old center was very well restructurated and now you can also go by the old center to the medieval Fortress of its mountain with a moder cable. Timisoara, has repaired its roads and has one of the greatests Commercial centers of the East named "Iulius Mall", together anothers also very great. In Timisoara like another our towns of Transylvania and Banat, are many shops, pubs, discos who are exactly the same of the West. So, in these towns the infrastructure is good and new, only in our villages, unfortunately the situations is still difficoult in this plain, but also hungarian villages for example aren't in a good situation also if is in every case better than our. So, you must don't listen the stupid ignoratn media who like for any dark reason to consider North East countries a sort of paradise and Balkans a sort of miserable land. Romania and Serbia are border with Hungary, this show that is impossible and also stupid to consider Hungary a sor of Switzerland comparate with us, becaus we are border and near. Romania and Serbia has half of their territories in the Mittle-European zone Transylvania for Romania and Vojvodina for Serbia, these two regions were under Austro-hungarian empire and they inherit the good style of Administration of that old and extinct Empire. Antoher example are Belgrade and Lubiana. Belgrade is more great and beautiful than Lubiana also if Slovenia has an economic condition far better than Serbia. Listen to me, an intelligent man don't accept only the affirmations of the media but inform by himself by books, history and personal experiences. In my opinion this meaning maturity. Where are you from?

Danny		15-May-2006 05:53
This is not true that all Westerners chase money only. Undoubtedly, the West is rich as are the most advanced reform countries such as Slovenia, the Czech Republic and Hungary if compared with the Balkans (except of Greece I think). I have visited so far Prague and Budapest and although they really belong to the most beautiful places in Europe they are very different.

Vlad		14-May-2006 16:12
you're right. Serbian girls are very pretty. When I crossed last year Belgrade at 2 o'clock , many of them walk together and samed models.

Vlad		14-May-2006 15:59
Hello Stefan, I'm very very happy to see you again. Really. How can you saw, when you and Alex go away by here and here were only unheducated peoples who insults, I was very sorry, because a nice forum like this were denigrated. Now all is right like before. I thank you very much for this beautiful pictures of our Capitol. how you can see , it has a Liberty architeture who give it the name of Littel Paris. The same architerure I found in belgrade in Kneza Mihajlova, who in my opinion is the better zone of Belgrade together Kamedegdan Fortress and S.Sava cathedral. Our two capitols are the two greatest of our Region and they are similar in many aspects. How you can see Romanian Atheneum same Serbian Parliament. Enescu, was very admirated in West thanks to his beautiful Romanian Rapsodhy. Yes, becaus eone of the qualities of our Region is the music. I love two serbian songs: "Ajde Jano" and "djudjervdan". Now that that insults are finish, we can to speak again. For now I say you : "Dobro vece".

Guest		14-May-2006 13:17
Hello everyone again, I just was using pbase search and I typed in Belgrade to see some other people's galleries and how mine faired, then on the third of fourth page I saw this one again and I thought why not return to see what's up. Alex did inform me that the forum went to shit as some Albanians came which is typical really, they come to Kosovo and ruin it, give it a couple of years and it will be exactly like Albania proper, same story when they come in the West but anyway whatever. From what I can see the forum has taken a turn for the better, discussing what each of our respective Motherlands has acheived is an excellent way to communicate with understanding and in a civil way. Vlad, I have of course heard of Dracula, but the name George Enescu I have also heard of as possibly the best ever Balkan composer, I know that much of his work was lost following his passing as most of it was contained in his head rather than on paper. I have also seen the beautiful Roman Atheneum built in Bucharest by public funding to honour him. That is a really beautiful building I hope all sane people will agree: Balkans is a beautiful place, and Serbia is a beautiful place, I will tell you some of our recent acheivments first: Our Belgrade girls are certainly the most beautiful in the World, many Westerners who have been on business and written a travel blog about Belgrade agree, that is almost fact. Walking along the Knez Mihailova you can see almost nothing but beautiful girls better looking than any Western supermodel with fake tits (Katie Price, Kate Moss, Pamela Anderson and the rest of those dogs). If you don't believe me go to: http://www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/favourites or come to Belgrade youself to see. Apart from that...almost all Serbs are tall, broad shouldered and athletic. We are World Champions in Basketball, Volleyball, Waterpoloand Handball despite suffering 10 years of sanctions (embargo), economic collapse, civil war and NATO bombardment. And now we are in the football World Cup (but we have the hardest group so don't be surprized if we do not pass the Group stages). Our people are so crazy and warm hearted it is amazing, any Westerner who visits Serbia (anyone from anywhere infact, as long as they act decently) will receive the greatest hospitality from the very people who his countrymen were dropping bombs on. And for our food? Don't even let me start; stuffed peppers, pasulj, gibanice, burek and Serbian grills omg they are just 100% meat PORK my favourite on Earth grilled with our seasoning and pure fresh salad with no fucking pestisides and GM crap it is just natural: http://www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/image/55823806 http://www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/image/55889746 and Serbian bakeries and pastry shops can rival those of Paris and Belgium: http://www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/image/58787815 http://www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/image/56194829 Balkans is an amazing place, every place has produced something great, even Albania - Mother Teresa (she was born in Jugoslavija but she was ethnically Albanian). It is an undescribable place, it is a place of beautiful lakes, Orthodox monasteries, wonderful hospitality, great food, excellent beaches, low prices, great beer, World Champion sports teams from Europe's poorest corner (reminds when I was in Belgrade I stayed up all night in 2004 during the Olympics to watch the womens team gymnastics I was routing for Romania and they won!! - also when that small baby girl she was abut 17 from Romania also, she was so pretty and she won the gold medal for swimming and she cried she was so overwhelmed and my eyes did also fill up I was so happy for her). If only we did possess even half the money and power as the West - the Balkans would certainly be the best place on Earth no questions asked. Big regards to everyone; Stefan SERB Srbija i Ellas Zauvek, Samo Sloga Srbina Spasava.

Vlad		14-May-2006 10:16
I want to say to all western peoples, who think that in East exist only Prague or Warsaw, to come here and to see by themselves how their media are false and bad. Listen to me: if you walk in our Streets, in our Bulevards for example Bulevard Magheru in Bucharest or Knez Mihajlova in Belgrade, you can see the same development that you have in West, and the same attitude of our younpeoples to enjoy themselves. If you walk in our beautiful landscape and mountains, you can see a typical atmosphere who only we have. You can see an intense colour in the sky, you can see how beautiful is our sun in the summer when it colour our beautiful mountains. if you walk in our villages, you can see how polite are our peoples who offer you all our typical products: in Romania "tuica" and in Serbia "slivovitza". Our peoples are very polites and good, and if you come in our Balkan region you can see it. In this region in my opinion is the very center of Europe. If you come in Banat, a region divided between Romania and Serbia, you can see the hearth of the Mittle.Europe, because there are also many germans, hungarians, slovaks etc... Therefore don't believe on your media if you are really free, but believe in yourselves, and in your experiences. For economical development, don't care. We have a great economical grew who certainly will do us in your same situation, over 7 years i think. Therefore don't see to us as bad peoples, because our countries gave to Europe very important personalities. Romania gave Vlad Tepes (known as Dracula) who defend our continent against Turks, Dimitrie Cantemir who was the most reprezentant of East Illuminism, Nicolae Jorga who was a famous poet, nadia Comaneci a great gymnast, Geroge Enescu a great musicist, Mihai Eminecu another great poet very admirate by West poets etc... Serbia gave to Europe prince Lazar who defend Kosovo against Tuks, draza Mihajlovic, and Aleksander Karageorgevic.

Alex Belgrade		14-May-2006 07:42
Danny, Vlad is right. Europe loves to portray the Balkans as some sort of a God forsaken place. The Balkans has its share of problems but it belongs in Europe and has rich history, many cultures and civilizations that are older than many Western countries. The Balkans have a special spirit that cannot be found in the West. Every city has good and bad things, buildings, monuments, etc, but the atmosphere in the streets of any Balkan city is much more warmer and relaxed, easy going, than in any city in the West. In the West, money is the only thing that matters, everything revolves around it. The people are more cold and reserved than in the Balkans. The mentalities between Eastern and Western Europe are completely different. I am sure people from Belgrade, Sofia, Bucharest and Tirana will agree with me and will understand what I am saying. The Balkans have a soul, a spirit, an atmosphere that the people of the Balkans understand, but that the people in the West will never understand.

Vlad		12-May-2006 17:36
Danny I want to say that unfortunately, western media love to speak only about the defects and the problems of balkans, and certainly we have many problems, but we have also many beautiful things. Therefore I'm angry with Western media, who aren't certainly western peoples. For example I have half of my family italian, and i have also many italian friends, and when they came in Romania to see all complete aspects of my Country, they understood very well that italian and western media gave a wrong image of my Country, where they also enjoyed themselves. Every country in Balkans has its own particular beautiful things like in West, and in my opinion is a bad thing that instead to give a good image of this region, western media love only to divided our Europe, with its animal attitude to speak wrong about us. So, if you are western you must understand that wasn't my intention to attack West in genereal, but only its stupid and bad media.

Danny		12-May-2006 05:10
"... not so typically Western because all the Western cities are more or less the same." What do you mean by that?

Vlad		07-May-2006 10:05
Alex, I'm glad for you to see that finally in West someone cjhange opinion about our Region (Balkans) where certainly Belgrade is one very important part. The Media's impact about these events can make in west public opinion an important image of normality in Balkans. Yes, because many west peoples have a great wrong image about our common region. balkans in their opinion is only war and blood. Nobody want to consider that we were in the past almost more developed than many west countries. For example, everybody in west know that in the Former Yugoslavia was a long war and everybody know that in Balkans are many problems, but I want to know how many west peoples know that for example in Romania are many medieval towns and churches who are protected by UNESCO, I want to know how many peoples know that In serbia is a town called Novi sad who was known as the Giblatar of danube. Our capitol Bucharest is one of the most developing cities in Balkans, it know a great urbanistic increase: in the zone of Baneasa, are only luxuous houses, who make by themselves a great town; the old center of our capitol is in restructuration and al the roads and Bulevards who made Bucharest known like "The Little Paris" will go bak at their ancient beautiful. We have here in Romania the greatest infrastructure in construction: the "Transilvanya Motorroad" and the Motorroad of "Sun" by Bucharest to Constanta is almost completed. We will have nest year when we will become an EU's Country the European Cultural Capitol: Sibiu, who was founded by german saxons in Medieval's Era. This beautiful Town was restructurated and now togehter Brasov and all the seven towns of Transylvania who also was restructurated seems with an austrian Town. Germans called Transylvania "Siebenburger", who meaning the seven towns founded by them. All these things together many an others make Romania a very great Country in my opinion. a country who really is directed in the right direction. But all West media speak only about romanian defects, and forget to speak about its many and great qualities. The same situation is valable for Serbia. Insted to consider serbian qualities, West media speak only about its problems. Insted to speak about the development of Belgrade, for example, now italian Media speak only about serbian unemployment, serbian effects of war, or serbian difficoults relations with EU caused by Mladic. In my opinion this is a great Journalistic Animal Instinct, who think only to attack the reputations of our Countruies, instead to consider the great problems who West has actually. For example while we have a great economical increase in west Countries is a great economical crisis.

Guest		07-May-2006 08:34
bilo bi vam bolje kad bi svoje žene jebali a ne ovdje jedni druge

hrvoje		07-May-2006 08:33
bilo bi vam bolje kad bi svoje žene jebali a ovdje jedni druge

Alex Belgrade		06-May-2006 22:10
Hi Vlad, Thanks! Nice talking to you again. The latest nice event in Belgrade was the GumBall 3000 race of the rich and famous. Some celebrities came, like singer PINK, but not Bruce Willis and Pamela Anderson as the media had boosted for days. But, the cars were fantastic! Unfortunately, Sting has cancelled his concert in Belgrade, because the Belgrade Arena has been closed due to technical problems. But, the Rolling Stones should be coming to the Belgrade Hypodrome, in the summer! I think Belgrade is slowly once again finding its place under the sun.

Vlad		06-May-2006 09:46
Alex, I'm glad that you come back here. I also leaved this forum after all these insults without sense and I waited to come back only when finally it will come back a serious and a civil comment. I think that we can clean by ourselves this forum, simply with a discussions between civil persons, and to don't consider insults or stupid comments. For example instead to speak about insults, we can to comment the interesting attention that west-media finally give to our region: for example I find intersting to consider the fact that next year our Sibiu will become cultural capital of EU, or for example we can consider the article of Financial Times who affirm that Belgrade is the city of futur in Balkans. Wre can to develope this forum with our civil intelligence, and eventually we can to extend our consideration of our futur in the plolitic, economic plain at all Balkans. If you want, you can be sure that you will find in me a person who hate insults and think in civil and intelligent kind like you.

Too Serb		06-May-2006 04:39
To Alex BG Well said "I feel like this site has been occupied by Albanians, for the only purpose to drive the Serbs angry and upset." but whats new ? hahahahah Nice to see you fire Alex , Sretan Jujev Dan

Alex Belgrade		05-May-2006 22:53
I would like to present my own personal text about Belgrade. I hope all of you will find the time to read it and post comments. I hope the Albanians can drop their usual insults, I am sure we have heard it all by now. I am sure you like Tirana but this is a site about Belgrade and I want to talk about Belgrade. So here is one text from the bottom of my heart. Those who do not like it, well, that's their problem. WHY I LIKE BELGRADE AND WHY MORE PEOPLE COME HERE Belgrade is the capital of the former Yugoslavia and the present Republic of Serbia. It sits at the confluence of the Sava and Danube rivers. It occupies a central position in South-Eastern Europe and West Balkans. Its position is strategic, as two pan-European corridors - number 10 and number 7, pass through it. It is the hub of the region. It has 1.7 million people (urban and rural areas, i.e. downtown and suburbs). It is a growing and rapidly developing city with many contrasts everywhere. It is the industrial, commercial, business, financial, tourist, cultural, sports and educational center of Serbia and the Balkans. After a most agonizing and difficult period of time, which lasted for 15 years, Belgrade has in recent years again started to have the role that belongs to it, welcoming everyone with open arms and hosting important events in the domain of sports, culture, entertainment and business. To name just a few recent ones - it hosted the European Basketball Championships and the World Volleyball Championships in summer of 2005. It is set to host the World Waterpolo Championships in 2006. Also, in 2009 it will hold the World Summer University Games (Universiade). It hosted the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development - EBRD's annual conference. It also hosted many famous world singers, actors, athletes. Just a few days ago the Gumball 3000 race of the world's rich and famous drove through Belgrade. It has recently been named as the City of the Future in South-Eastern Europe by the Financial Times. For all these and many other reasons, Belgrade is the place happenin' at the moment. It is a living city, a city alive, energetic, vibrant, a city whose streets are practically filled up with people all the time, and where things seem to be happening practically all the time. A city of turbulent history, chaotic architecture from all sorts of periods - buildings seem to be thrown in without a particular order or rule, and the unique atmosphere in the streets - atmosphere made by the people - all that is sort of thrown in and mixed together in one crazy Balkan mixture, and when I say crazy, I mean that in a good way. Affordable prices, good nightlife, good wine and dine, lots of things to see, live and explore, all these are reasons for which people visit Belgrade. Curiosity, a desire to see and try something different - not so typically Western because all the Western cities are more or less the same. Something neither completely Western, nor completely Eastern. In Belgrade, civilizations and religions have met and clashed and have remet and reclashed, and so for centuries. This is where West Europe meets East Europe, where Christianity meets Islam, where Europe meets the Orient, where history and tradition meet the modern times, where communism meets capitalism. The capital of the "boo-hooed" Serbs, or "the Serbs" as the world likes to fingerpoint us in recent years, sits proudly on its two beautiful rivers, smiles and awaits for everyone to come to it, with a forgiving, Slavic soul and a wide, Balkan heart. By Alex Belgrade

Alex Belgrade		05-May-2006 22:52
I see nothing much has changed, things just got worse and worse here... It's disgusting... and very sad... No wonder the outside world thinks that all the Balkan people are crazy. I personally would LOVE it if all the Albanians here made a site about Tirana (the capital of Albania) so that we can all go there and discuss it. I feel like this site has been occupied by Albanians, for the only purpose to drive the Serbs angry and upset. Thhe gallery - which is not bad, is overshadowed by idiotic comments from several Albanians and several Serbs (and vice versa), and all the normal people have left the site. That is so sad. How come Elias does not moderate this??????

Swiss-Yugo		05-May-2006 19:04
And to the Albanians: Why are you comming to this site?! Yiu can make a site about Tirana...You just come to provocate the Serbs! Stop your bad comments about Serbs!!!_it's a site about the Serbian capital! So go and clean up your own country and your poverty and problems!!!!!

Swiss-Yugo		05-May-2006 18:59
I have a question for the webmaster: Why do you publish the stupid comments? It's ok to publish that one's which are about Belgrade, but not about war and Albanians! These comments show a bad black side of the Serbs to all people, that visit your Site!

Swiss-Yugo		05-May-2006 18:59
I have a question for the webmaster: Why do you publish the stupid comments? It's ok to publish that one's which are about Belgrade, but not about war and Albanians! These comments show a bad black side of the Serbs to all people, that visit your Site!

Srbija		05-May-2006 16:36
Vojvodina, Kosovo, Srbija Crna Gora i Makedonija Herceg- Bosna, Kordun i Banija Slavonija, Lika, Dalmacija Ova mi je pesma najmilija Kad zapevam Zivela Srbija!!!

Too Serb		05-May-2006 06:17
Irma you dumb cunt What do you think we are going to do to all Albanians same thing we did in srebrenica serbs did it all, you blame the serbs for everything anyway , But you dont relise that it takes 2 to tango maybe you should mind you own bizzness What the world can't understand is that we are just cleaning the scum out of Serbia , Croats are left over scum from the Asto-hungarian Empier( Catholic ) and Bosnians are the left over scum from the ottoman ( Islam ) empier, we just want things to be Clean and orthodox Serbs have had proplems with Muslims for a long time now , You could say we are pioneers , the world will follow soon , the fastes growing religon is Islam Only in the last 5 years the world has see what thay are about and not just albanians Should have let the serbs finnish the job ...Properly Irma maybe you should check out some Al-Qieda web sites , You can Copy and paste what ever you like from there sound more like your kind of web site I'm not racist , but the whole world should speek serb Time to go You can leave on you own or we can help you

irma		05-May-2006 00:09
to jelena and too serb we can remember racak and srebrenica and dubrovnik.were they destroyed from albanians or serbs?can you answer please?what about the famous bridge of dubrovnik?

Gumball 3000		03-May-2006 21:50
Ireland Online Gumball rally zips through Balkans 02/05/2006 - 17:09:43 Celebrities and socialites taking part in the Gumball Rally 3000 received a boisterous welcome in Belgrade today as they passed through the Balkans on their multi-continent itinerary. Motocross racer Carey Hart, the husband of singer Pink, waved to the crowd of more than 5,000 people gathered in and around Belgrade City Hall, where authorities organised a reception for some 240 participants of the high-speed dash. “It’s amazing, I’m really excited about this journey,” Hart said amid roaring Porsches, Ferraris, a gullwing Mercedes and dozens of other souped-up sports cars. The annual race kicked off on Sunday in London following a massive party, crossed through the tunnel to France, then Belgium and Austria, cheered by fans at several stops. Today, participants in 120 cars crossed from Hungary into Serbia where the vehicles were scheduled to board a chartered cargo plane that will take them to Thailand for the next, Asian leg of the race. “It’s been great, really fantastic,” said Deepak Jain, a Washington, DC-based entrepreneur who drove in a Porsche 911. The rally was named after a 1970s road race – in which the prize was a gumball machine – that inspired the movies Gumball Rally and Cannonball Run. It has drawn criticism as some participants have been involved in accidents or arrested for speeding in recent years. This year, however, there have been only a few minor accidents in central Europe, and the police in Serbia apparently turned a blind eye to the convoy’s high speed, waving to participants rather than issuing tickets, Jain said. However, a Rolls Royce Phantom driven by Ezra Chapman from Great Britain veered off the road on the stretch between the Hungarian border and the Serbian capital. No one was injured in the accident, but the vehicle was badly damaged, a police report said. As the rally drove through Belgrade toward the airport to board a waiting aircraft, thousands more lined the streets cheering, waving and gawking at the sleek sedans and roadsters. After Asia, the vehicles and the drivers are to be flown to the United States for two final days of the race, May 6-7, in California, capped with a party at Playboy Mansion in Los Angeles.

jelena		02-May-2006 18:08
remember off racak you stupid albanian animals

zeljko nis		02-May-2006 18:01
this chetniks will fuck your mothers and sisters and all albanian alive agron fuck you to ilir lika die

zeljko nis		02-May-2006 17:56
fuck you albanian people

Vladimir		02-May-2006 13:42
Hi again Erion Thank you for ur reply.. I hope we get along together... Peace to the world

Erion Bogdani		02-May-2006 13:41
Hello Vladimir. I really like your post, and i also am in for peace. But some albanians are just stupid like some serbs are too or some greeks or turks. I take my hat for what you said there and respekt you very much. By the way not every albanians hate each other..They made a fun movie together in Denmark called Pusher III... Its the 3rd film of a triology were serbian and albanian (actors) "work" together.. Its really cool and shows that we can acomplishe alot together. Peace out. Erion Bogdani

Vladimir SerB		02-May-2006 13:36
Zdravo..Kako si ? I just want to make a point... All the accusation i have read down this web page is so stupid.. Albanians this Albanians that... Not all albanians are gun smugglers or drug smugglers. If I would talk, id rather take a look at my self first.. We arent much better our selfs cause we CORPORATE with them in thoose kinds of criminal activity. But anyway Milosevic wasnt the best that happened to Belgrade and Serbia. Just look at the family for christ sake, they took theire own lifes, thats how bad they were feeling about beeing thoose kinds of Serbs... Id rather say that we need a Dialog between Albanians and ect. cause we can alwas keep hating each other, thats easy. The hard is to confront the problems and solving them. We shouldnt forget were the 1st world war began and how it began, there is a purpose why it began in Serbia, and why serbia and Croatia hates each other (war). I am into Peace so therefor i am appologizing to the albanians and ect. for thoose accusations there have been made into this website about them, thats just show our LOW IQ !!!.. I am inbarresed to hear all these kinds of kiddy trash talk.. Grow up serbia and the rest of the WORLD !

hrvoje		02-May-2006 11:13
na ovoj stranici samo mrznja!strašno nešto nisu svi srbi isti ni albanci,bosanci,hrvati... by hrvoje,hrvat,zagreb

Too Serb		02-May-2006 02:01
To Agron Eat a commo Dick you tito lover fuck you and your brastvo Jedinstvo Irma Dont come back and start shit ,, you have no idear About anything You just speek shit all the time

ILIR LIKA		30-Apr-2006 00:10
to agron go and fuck your self ok if you like serbs go and live in serbia you fucking traitor dont even call yourself albanian ok to chetniks yes people like this they fuck albanian nation but not any more ,anyway chetniks i am going for holiday in tenerife i will be back in two weeks time than we will start again death to serbs and serb nation LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA

Mister Big		30-Apr-2006 00:04
ALBANIANS EAT YOUR HEART OUT The most famous world stars and their expensive cars will spend a short time in Belgrade on May 2, as the Gumball 3000 race will pass through Serbia! The race begins on April 30 in London and ends on May 7 in Los Angeles. Stars that are supposed to come to Belgrade with their expensive "toys" are: singer Pink, rapper Snoop Doggy Dog, actor Adrian Brody, actress Derryll Hannah, skater Tony Hawke, actor Paul Walker, actress and super model Pamela Anderson, some say even super model Naomi Campbell, actor Bruce Willis, actor Nicolas Cage, former Formula 1 champion Damond Hill and many, many other famous people from the world of sports, movies and music. Apart from celebrities, in the past years some very special cars have done the Gumball 3000, including a Ferrari F50, a Ferrari F40, a couple of Ferrari Enzos, a Koenigsegg, a bunch of Carrera GTs, a Mercedes CLK-DTM, a Lola T70 Mk3 Race Car and many many more! 120 cars is the maximum number. In Serbia, they will end their European tour. After a short break in downtown Belgrade - they will park in front of the Federal Parliament and be guests at a Reception by the Belgrade Mayor, they will continue onwards to the Nikola Tesla International Airport, where they will board Russian cargo planes along with their cars, and then they will fly off to Asia, where they will continue the race. After Asia, they will fly to America and finish their race there. This is a huge event in terms of publicity and worldwide media coverage, it is a great event for Belgrade and the Belgrade authorities will close many streets in the downtown area and on the way to the airport.

Agron		29-Apr-2006 04:31
ilir shout your mouth ok too serb shout your mouth to guest same to you and the rest shame on all of you we should have a peace and thing to live together now we are in 21 century not in stone age come on gays be more friendly dont hate each other lets be brotherhood vllazerim bashkim bratsvo jedinstvo i like all balkan people the only problem with balkan people is that we have somany crazy people like you gays americans,english,french,germans etc when we balkan people we eat food with spoon those other nation they were canibals like monkeys so look it now they are telling us what to do #shame on us balkan people

Agron		29-Apr-2006 04:22
Well im an Albanian, and unlike most other Albanians, im not very fond of USA. I dont think USA has ever helped anyone. Instead, they have their own interest in everything they do. And maybe make it look like they're "protecting democracy" or something. the albanians and the serbs has to live side by side. it is true that the religion has created a lot of problems between us, but we should thing more human and tolerate each other Dreams of the Serb nationalists of a Greater Serbia have turned to nothing as Serbs have been ethnically cleansed from whole swathes of Bosnia and Krajina. The Serbian government has not lifted a finger to help them. Dreams of the albanian nationalists of a Greater Albania have turned to nothing as Albanian have been ethnically cleansed from whole swathes of toplica,nis,vranje and Kosova. The Albanian government has not lifted a finger to help them. so stop stop it now serbs, albanian ,croats,macedonian,bosnian,etc should live together and like each other . in next century our nepws will make fun of us they will say we were mad people now we should stop to hate each other once and forever State unity of the Balkan can be achieved in two ways: either expanding one Balkan state, whichever proves strongest, at the expense of the weaker ones--this is the road of wars of extermination and oppression of weak nations, a road that consolidates monarchism and militarism; or road that means overthrowing the Balkan dynasties and unfurling the banner of a Balkan federal republic. so i thing we can have peace together for good and tell to USA f...off shame shame for albanians and serbs once upon the time both nation albanain and serbs they live together for hundred years they fought together same enemy (turkish empire) i hope next generation will be united and create a balkan state i am from PRISHTINA ,Student

ILIR LIKA		29-Apr-2006 00:49
THE FIRST PHOTO WITH ALBANIAN FLAG AND AMERICAN FLAG IS ME I DID FUCK A LOT SERB WOMENS HA HA HA HA http://www.qerkinaj.com/UCK/?operation=categoryscaled&category=Foto_UCK_2¤t=0

ILIR LIKA		29-Apr-2006 00:25
this is me on foto the first foto on this album is me while i was on the war fighting chetniks http://www.qerkinaj.com/UCK/?operation=categoryscaled&category=Foto_UCK_2¤t=0

ILIR LIKA		29-Apr-2006 00:19
this may be very interesting for serbs http://atdheu.de/

ILIR LIKA		28-Apr-2006 23:33
all you srb pigs making me smile ha ha ha ha ,zimmer,john,ha ha ha ha ha you fucking serb all of you are pice of shit it hurts yes yes ha ha ha ha read comments of erin ok and answer erin pls I REPEAT AGAIN CAN SOMEONE GIVE TO ME A ANSWER see the Serbs haven't changed with their idiotism. Assholes, during communinsm if your cow passed the border you were imprisioned and killed in Albania. Another fact is that during the same time, Tito's time, Kosovar Albanians massivelly immigrated to Switzerland, Germany, Sweeden, and the USA. If anything the number of Albanians declined during this time; and the fact that they still remained a majority demonstrates their autoctony. Slavs came in the Balkans in the 7th century meanwhile the Dardaanins (Albanian Kosovars) are mentioned in 1300 before christ in ancient Egyptian writtings as being allies of the Hitites, who were the enemies of the ancient Egyptians. Another fact that demonstrates the Kosovar Albanians autoctony. At this time the Slavs were keeping company to cave bears in the Ural mountains. As for persecution Serbs are worldly known for their lack of humane feelings. 1. 95% of the Jews living in Serbia were exterminated by the Serbs and Germans during WWII. 2.Belgrade was declared the first capital of Europe to be free of Jews; Belgrade's mayor at that time proudly declared that the city was clean of Jews. Nazi german documents also testify to this fact and the fact that most Jews were killed or brought to the Germans by the Serbs. There are 3 written documents approved by the Serbian governments from 1800's to 1999 that provide for the anihilation of the Albanian, and other ethnicites in Kosova. 1. Nacertanje, year 1844 2. The Expultion of the Albanians, year 1937 3. Seselj program of anihilation, year:around 1995-1997, published while he was deputy prime minister of Serbia. The government of Serbia was closely associated with Sadam's government. In fact the Serbian government had deals with Sadam through which they sold and bought arms from each other. After all it was a Serbian president who said that lying is the patriotic duty of every Serb. go kiss mother Russia's ass for stealing Kosova and giving it to you after WWI you serb shitheads. but now americans are giving back Kosova to albania UNITED ALBANIA erin,florida USA

Lothar Zimmer		28-Apr-2006 22:46
Hey Erin you are an albanian who lives in America or in Tirana who knows?You don't even speak proper english.I can recognize that albanian primitive way of writing which i saw in many forums.No any American knows who's Seselj and what is Dardania.They don't know even their own history.And geography of Europe is so strange to them.What are you doing on this site non stop anyway?This is not political forum.Don't you have any life..or brains?You are boring.No one reads all your crap anyway. Lothar Zimmer,Hamburg,Germany

Guest		28-Apr-2006 22:32
ONE QUESTION FOR ALBANIANS : Are you aware that albanian state and albanian people are the most mentaly, socially and economicly undeveloped people in Europe?? Do you know that every single nation in the Balkans hates or just deslikes you? You are shit nation, you stink, and MOST OF ALL YOU have characteristic FACES, the retarded albanian face, as I like to call you... You can notice an filthy albanian in 30 people.. You are EUROPES shitty black hole !! AND PITTY that NATO stoped us from destroying you pig people, they will pay for that in 20, 30 years, when your sex and drug bussines advances..

John Savage,Pennsylvania		28-Apr-2006 21:53
I'm American and i hate all albanians.We are not any brothers.We'll use you so well when all this shit is over.You won't even rule Kosovo,WE will!!Get it buddy?? lol ILIR LIKA go to school and improve your english cause you spell like 5 years old.Are you some orphan or something cause no one ever teached you any manners?You swear like pig.If you start an other war in Balkans we'll bombard you next. John Savage,Pennsylvania

ERIN		28-Apr-2006 21:52
I REPEAT AGAIN CAN SOMEONE GIVE TO ME A ANSWER see the Serbs haven't changed with their idiotism. Assholes, during communinsm if your cow passed the border you were imprisioned and killed in Albania. Another fact is that during the same time, Tito's time, Kosovar Albanians massivelly immigrated to Switzerland, Germany, Sweeden, and the USA. If anything the number of Albanians declined during this time; and the fact that they still remained a majority demonstrates their autoctony. Slavs came in the Balkans in the 7th century meanwhile the Dardaanins (Albanian Kosovars) are mentioned in 1300 before christ in ancient Egyptian writtings as being allies of the Hitites, who were the enemies of the ancient Egyptians. Another fact that demonstrates the Kosovar Albanians autoctony. At this time the Slavs were keeping company to cave bears in the Ural mountains. As for persecution Serbs are worldly known for their lack of humane feelings. 1. 95% of the Jews living in Serbia were exterminated by the Serbs and Germans during WWII. 2.Belgrade was declared the first capital of Europe to be free of Jews; Belgrade's mayor at that time proudly declared that the city was clean of Jews. Nazi german documents also testify to this fact and the fact that most Jews were killed or brought to the Germans by the Serbs. There are 3 written documents approved by the Serbian governments from 1800's to 1999 that provide for the anihilation of the Albanian, and other ethnicites in Kosova. 1. Nacertanje, year 1844 2. The Expultion of the Albanians, year 1937 3. Seselj program of anihilation, year:around 1995-1997, published while he was deputy prime minister of Serbia. The government of Serbia was closely associated with Sadam's government. In fact the Serbian government had deals with Sadam through which they sold and bought arms from each other. After all it was a Serbian president who said that lying is the patriotic duty of every Serb. go kiss mother Russia's ass for stealing Kosova and giving it to you after WWI you serb shitheads. but now americans are giving back Kosova to albania UNITED ALBANIA erin,florida USA

ILIR LIKA		28-Apr-2006 19:16
hi erin thnks for comments you wroted and no serb can replay back to your mesages ha ha ha ha you shout their mouth cz that what you said was true even serbs they know that anyway who cares but one thing i am suprise no serb man in this forum like to talk about those lands in serbia which they are toplica pusta reka nis et etc cz they dont have a answer about that they know they are looser ha ha ha thank you wery much erin i would like to meet you or come to prishtina for holiday or come to durrs by coast side juring summer i like americans they are our brothers they know our history wery well and they know about serbs are not european but gypsi from ural see next to iran to benjamin thanks from you to as you know juring the second ww2 we save jew from nazi even we were with nazi we save life of jew people exept we kill serb people around 30.000 yes we didi that so jew they know albanian they help them to escape i would like you to come to united albania for holiday thanks again for telling the truth about albanian and thank you from israel the first country in the world they send aid i mean food clothes etc etc juring the war in kosova we had to much support from jew goverment to serbs go and fuck your self with your own sisters ha ha ha you see now serbs how we treat them like pice of shit everybody in the world hates serbs exept greeks to irma si jeni si po ja kaloni ehe po keta serbet jon njerz qe nuk e pranojn realitetin e din se e kan humbur luften dhe kosoven e ju vie inati po do zoti do vjen nje dit dhe do ta zhdukim ket rac

Mrko		28-Apr-2006 10:04
This forum has become completely polluted and it's disgusting. I hope this forum is shut down soon. It is so stupid. Nobody can discuss normally, and politics and insults. I hope there will be someone to shut this site down.

irma		28-Apr-2006 09:45
i never spoke about churches.you can have a look at what I have written.

irma		28-Apr-2006 09:42
to too serbian you was reared by normal parents or not?why they taught you only how to swear at?and by the way ,did you consult your psychiater?you never looked normal.heal yourself you really need that.

irma		28-Apr-2006 09:36
to long time you are completly wrong,I work somuch than I have no time for such things.I can open internet only ten minutes during 24 hours.your propagandistic mecanisms have really washed your brain after the 2-nd world war.

irma		28-Apr-2006 09:29
to greek king I knew greeks who lived about 4-5 years in belgrade and they couldn't learn serbian language.That's a high level of inteligence,isn't it?

Greek King		28-Apr-2006 05:52
Albanian ar first settlers in the balkan with Greeks.in 7 century Aahahahahahahahahahaah YOU REALY THINK SO and i love how you use the word "settlers" you dick head dumb cunt , Cigan I dont think the greeks would touch an albiana Greeks see Albains as turks SAME SHIT diff pack

SB		28-Apr-2006 05:48
You dont know your history Albiana First thing i want to bring up is "Serbia was closely associated with Sadam's government. In fact the Serbian government had deals with Sadam through which they sold and bought arms from each other." 1 so what if we were 2 it was not with sadam it was with IRAN 3 Russians did not steal Kosovo from the albians to give to the serbs be smart, do u realy think that the russian stole kosove and gave it to the serbs thay would have keep it for them selfs you dick , BIG LIE 4 You said "There are 3 written documents approved by the Serbian governments from 1800's to 1999 that provide for the anihilation of the Albanian, and other ethnicites in Kosova. " That was a time of the Saword big time gap 1800's Let say from Alexander Time to 1999 you dick head as Long time said "move on to a albanian site to spred you ignorance els were Kosovo is serbian and thats that. "

Benjamin Ipale		28-Apr-2006 05:29
To the Serb brainwashed c.oc.k.sucker. Albanian ar first settlers in the balkan with Greeks.in 7 century Serbs left the caves of the Ural mountains. The Dardanian are mentioned in ancient Egyptian manuscripts around 1300 b.c During this time you were still apes trying to catch up with evolution, yes the same one your minister of education denies. However based on studies on the Serb popullation the minister is right. The evolution never occured as you are still apes. Benjamin Ipale from florida usa, i am jew from romania my grandfather come from romania in 1937 in usa

Erin,Florida		28-Apr-2006 05:21
Ottoman Rule 15th century in Kosova 1455: Turkish cadastral tax census (defter)[1] of the Kastrioti and leka dugagjini dynasty lands (covering 95% of present-day Kosovo) recorded 673 villages, 13,693 adult males, 15,985 dwellings, 17,087 household heads (480 widows and 16,607 adult males). By ethnicity: 14,995 albanian dwellings present in all 630 villages and towns 15 Vlach dwellings in 14 villages 10 bulgarian dwellings in 7 villages 10 Serbian dwellings in 5 villages 5 Greek dwellings in Lauša, Vuèitrn 1 Jewish dwelling in Vuèitrn 1 Croat dwelling

benjamin ipale		28-Apr-2006 05:03
It is nice to hear on the news and other that Serbs in the end understood that they lost Kosova. Kosova is the richest country in Europe with coal and many other minerals and this fact is making life of Serbian politicians worse and no other thing. The history "told" by Serbs on Kosova is nothing but a "big lie" and I believe that Serbian people will be that clever as not to buy it. Nonetheless, 2006 will be the year of establishment of the youngest European countries in Europe, i.e. Kosova and Montenegro. Peace Benjamin Ipale,student Florida USA

erin		28-Apr-2006 04:56
see the Serbs haven't changed with their idiotism. Assholes, during communinsm if your cow passed the border you were imprisioned and killed in Albania. Another fact is that during the same time, Tito's time, Kosovar Albanians massivelly immigrated to Switzerland, Germany, Sweeden, and the USA. If anything the number of Albanians declined during this time; and the fact that they still remained a majority demonstrates their autoctony. Slavs came in the Balkans in the 7th century meanwhile the Dardaanins (Albanian Kosovars) are mentioned in 1300 before christ in ancient Egyptian writtings as being allies of the Hitites, who were the enemies of the ancient Egyptians. Another fact that demonstrates the Kosovar Albanians autoctony. At this time the Slavs were keeping company to cave bears in the Ural mountains. As for persecution Serbs are worldly known for their lack of humane feelings. 1. 95% of the Jews living in Serbia were exterminated by the Serbs and Germans during WWII. 2.Belgrade was declared the first capital of Europe to be free of Jews; Belgrade's mayor at that time proudly declared that the city was clean of Jews. Nazi german documents also testify to this fact and the fact that most Jews were killed or brought to the Germans by the Serbs. There are 3 written documents approved by the Serbian governments from 1800's to 1999 that provide for the anihilation of the Albanian, and other ethnicites in Kosova. 1. Nacertanje, year 1844 2. The Expultion of the Albanians, year 1937 3. Seselj program of anihilation, year:around 1995-1997, published while he was deputy prime minister of Serbia. The government of Serbia was closely associated with Sadam's government. In fact the Serbian government had deals with Sadam through which they sold and bought arms from each other. After all it was a Serbian president who said that lying is the patriotic duty of every Serb. go kiss mother Russia's ass for stealing Kosova and giving it to you after WWI you serb shitheads. but now americans are giving back Kosova to albania UNITED ALBANIA erin,florida USA

Long time		28-Apr-2006 02:40
Irma i think you cut and paste a LOT from the internet from pro albanian sites get over it, Your dumb live with it and move on to a albanian site to spred you ignorance els were Kosovo is serbian and thats that. You sound like a tito lover he did open the borders for albians to get in , but the albians were not told that you would just be the work and slave force to help Tito Bild yugoslavia into a super power so you stayed and bred like rabits and Terorised serbs , , And now you have over sayed it's time to leave , it for the best , How long do you think it will take the world to relise that Albianas are the real proplem in erope, Dont worry the world will see whats going on , too serb is right you are just a Virus, your race is dirty and love money and from what i have read about you irma you are catholic you dont realise that you race is Muslim and that thay will not give a shit about the catholic side of albiana im not comeing back to this page agian but i have bin reading a lot of you stuff irma and i agree with too serb, Ctrl C is copy Ctrl V is Paste Albiana must be a grate holiday place for the would i think it's just like monternegro full of rocks, full of shiptari and full of shit

Too Serb		27-Apr-2006 23:56
To Irma I think you are soooo full of shit it's not funny You said that you were not Alive when Tito Died and also you said "And dont worry about my school because i finished two faculties one master and i speak four foreing languages and i am relly reach men.this conversation is only a hoby looking that i am a student of academy of diplomacy recently.bye bye honey kissssss" Thing is Tito Died in 1980 How the fuck does you Dumb ass have a Masters and 2 two facultie HOW DID YOU FINDED THE TIME , Tell me how long it takes to get a Masters and two facultie You must be 24 Years OLD but i dont think you are You try and sound Educated but it's ot working And you have a Masters Deg and two facultie There is no way you have a Masters And Dont say a word about STEFAN NJEMANJA you Dont know shit about there Empire , Oh Irma you said "MEAN UNITED ALBANIA WE WILL TRANSFORM AGAIN BACK TO CATHOLIC CHURCHES BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN ALBANIAN CATHOLIC CHURCHES ON THE PAST " REALY. So Albainia will turn Orthodox Churches to Catholic I dont think so .... Your People are more likely to Burn them down or turn them into a Jamia AS I SAID BEFOR ALBAINANS ARE A VIRUS IN EUROP we just need to find an Cure or an AK47 To Guesst good call "why is your whole nation selling drugs" So true LONG LIVE STEFAN & NJEMANJA LONG LIVE CICA DRAZA LONG LIVE THE SERBIAN CHETNIKS LONG LIVE SRS

ILIR LIKA		27-Apr-2006 20:39
I eat my own shit for breakfast it tastes good i dont spiik any languaggge proprly so i m quotin others i am pathetic please excuse me i ll kill myself

ILIR LIKA		27-Apr-2006 20:29
ONLY ONE THING TO SAY TO CHETNIKS DEGENERATES Hymni Kombëtar Rreth flamurit të përbashkuar, Me një dëshirë dhe një qëllim, Të gjithë atij duke iu betuar, Të lidhim besën për shpëtim. Prej lufte veç aj largohet, Që është lindur tradhëtar, Kush është burrë nuk frikësohet, Po vdes, po vdes si një dëshmor. Në dorë armët do t'i mbajmë, Të mbrojmë Atdheun në çdo vend, Të drejtat tona ne s'i ndajmë, Këtu armiqtë s'kanë vend. Se Zoti vet e tha me gojë, Që kombe shuhen përmbi dhe, Po Shqipëria do të rrojë, Për te, për te luftojmë ne

ILIR LIKA		27-Apr-2006 20:27
Hymni Kombëtar Rreth flamurit të përbashkuar, Me një dëshirë dhe një qëllim, Të gjithë atij duke iu betuar, Të lidhim besën për shpëtim. Prej lufte veç aj largohet, Që është lindur tradhëtar, Kush është burrë nuk frikësohet, Po vdes, po vdes si një dëshmor. Në dorë armët do t'i mbajmë, Të mbrojmë Atdheun në çdo vend, Të drejtat tona ne s'i ndajmë, Këtu armiqtë s'kanë vend. Se Zoti vet e tha me gojë, Që kombe shuhen përmbi dhe, Po Shqipëria do të rrojë, Për te, për te luftojmë ne.

ILIR LIKA		27-Apr-2006 20:20
hi to Giovani grazie per i fatti che hai datto hi to Erin thnks 4 your comments i wish a best thinks on your life thnks to USA Irma qa bone mir je me shnet si po ja kaloni te fala e kalofshit mire TO CHETNIKS YOU WILL EAT OUR SHIT YOU WILL BEG US NOT TO TAKE MORE LAND IN SERBIA ,WHICH WE ARE GOING TO DO IN TOPLICA ,PUSTA REKA,JABLLANICA,NISH ,PROKUPLE,VRANJE,ETC ETC "REMEMBER THAT" "REMEMBER THAT" EVEN THOSE MONASTERIES (serb churches) ARE STILL LEFT IN KOSOVA I MEAN UNITED ALBANIA WE WILL TRANSFORM AGAIN BACK TO CATHOLIC CHURCHES BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN ALBANIAN CATHOLIC CHURCHES ON THE PAST BUT STEFAN NJEMANJA AND OTHER SERB PRINCES THEY TRANSFORM OUR CHURCHES TO ORTHODOX CHURCHES WHICH YOU WILL NOT SEE THEM ANY MORE IN KOSOVA IN COMING YEAR EAITHER WE ARE GOING TO BLOW THEM UP LIKE WE DID TO OTHER SERB CHURCHES OR TRANSFORM SOME OF THEM TO CATHOLIC CHURCHES SERBS IN BALKAN IN COMING YEARS WILL BE LIKE PALESTINIANS IN MIDDLE EAST "REMEMBER THAT" ""REMEMBER THAT"" NANEN NE PIDH JU QIFSHA DHE DADAT NE CICA JAV QIFSHA EDHE PSE I KINI TE FLLIQTA NANAT SHKINA JA U KISHA DHAN NE GOJ KARIN TEM LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA

irma		27-Apr-2006 16:13
to guest thnx for your reply,i was waiting for that,and i didn't say that english is one of those four foreign languages.byeeeee

irma		27-Apr-2006 16:10
to too serbian why don't you say any historical fact or tell us something interesting?you are telling nothing except that you hate someone because he did you nothing.why don't you consult a psychiater.perhaps you should be in peace with yourself.

Guest		27-Apr-2006 16:09
you have nothing to object of course,the most favourit women in facts are moldavs, bulgars,russians,lituanians=sllavs.you love money much more than us .did albanians kill your prime minister zoran gingic?you go eliminating even your people when you dont agree.And dont worry about my school because i finished two faculties one master and i speak four foreing languages and i am relly reach men.this conversation is only a hoby looking that i am a student of academy of diplomacy recently.bye bye honey Your english isn't that good and you make many mistakes when you're typing ,so i don't believe that you got any degree in languages.Also lithuanians are not Slavs by the way.They are Baltic people and they got own language which is different from russian.Also Albanians are killing each others so i wouldn't say anything about Zoran Djincic's murder.You probably didn't know also that Djincic had connections with criminals.In that business when you got stuff to do with mobsters and you betray them you'll most likely get killed.

irma		27-Apr-2006 15:50
ciao giovani grazie per i fatti che hai datto. ti auguro tutti i beni del mondo !qual'e la tua professione?

irma		27-Apr-2006 15:43
you have nothing to object of course,the most favourit women in facts are moldavs, bulgars,russians,lituanians=sllavs.you love money much more than us .did albanians kill your prime minister zoran gingic?you go eliminating even your people when you dont agree.And dont worry about my school because i finished two faculties one master and i speak four foreing languages and i am relly reach men.this conversation is only a hoby looking that i am a student of academy of diplomacy recently.bye bye honey kissssss

Guest		27-Apr-2006 11:25
haha hahaha :)) typicly albanian... He used an american and an italian person to promote his interests... Thats so stuped=albanian.. Go to school ALBANIANS, why do you sell your women in the west, or why is your whole nation selling drugs, becouse you are uneducated and the most primitive nation in europe, THATS A FACT...

Too Serb		27-Apr-2006 06:38
to Irma you said to serbia rules do you really think that anyone exept serbs understant that kind of language?or perhaps you wrote it only for yourself?that language is unknown.none in the world speaks it exept you.who wants to learn a foreign language learns english or french ect. but not serbian of course.it is not so important. Did you know Shiptari in Kosovo Know how to seek serb Did you know Shiptari in Greece Know how to speek greek Did you know Shipatri are a Virus Did you Know that serb have a tought time going on Hilidays Truogh Europ But Did you know That Shiptari are the Proplem We cant levae serbia coz of all the Inbred Shiptari who live in Serbia Call them selvs Serb, If you dont like serbs Go Back to Albania SIMPLE Proplem SOLVED Shiptari are a Virus as thay are in Serbia and the World Ask anyone

giovani		27-Apr-2006 06:31
According to the 2005 Living Standard Measurement Survey of the Statistical Office of Kosova and UNMIK [1], Kosova's total population is estimated between 1,8 and 2,0 million in the following ethnic proportions: 95% Albanians (between 1,884,000 and 1,976,600) 3% Serbs and Bosniaks (44 to 50 thousand) 2% Turks (26 to 30 thousand) (see also Roma in Mitrovica Camps) 1% Roma (05 to 10 thousand) GOD BLES ALBANIAN NATION

giovani		27-Apr-2006 06:15
The earliest inhabitants of Kosova were called Illyrians by both the Greek and the Romans. Alexander the Great conquered Kosova three centuries before Christ and the region became part of the Roman province of Dardania in the 4th century A. D. Slavic people crossed the Danube and moved into the Balkans by the 6th century. These migrations weakened the Byzantium Empire. The result was that Illyrian-speaking people, known to their neighbors as Albanians, moved eastward from the Adriatic into the Kosova region of the Balkans. Their language became known as Albanian and their culture became allied with Byzantium after the breakup of the Catholic Church into Eastern and western branches in 1054. is true what illir said about serbs they are gypsi from india

giovani		27-Apr-2006 05:58
Serbs as filthy spawn, horrible slaves, people who were fit for the axe god bles albanian and "UNITED ALBANIA" Giovani Arone Florida,United States

erin		27-Apr-2006 05:35
is with great sadness that I watch the human tragedy the Albanian face. The Serbian leadership is no different than the Nazi leadership of the 1930's and 40's. Any government that condones the killing of other people simply because they are from different ethnic backgrounds should be aware that the rest of the World cannot stand by and look the other way. As for my country (USA) and the rest of NATO, I am proud of what you are doing to serbs. We should try to limit death and injury to innocent civilians, but we didn't start this conflict. We told Milosovich what we would do. We are keeping our word to albanian. In my country, we believe that history has a way of repeating itself if we don't learn from the past. Millions of innocent Jews and other people died in World War II because of ethnic cleansing. It was wrong then and it is still wrong! How can any human being justify the needless slaughter of other humans? It is sheer idiocy and inhumanity to kill someone because they are different - no matter what that difference may be (ethnicity, religion, skin color, etc.). Enough innocent Albanian died before we (NATO) acted. Now that we have acted, the gloves must come off. We should continue to teach lesson the Serb leadership until they come to their senses. We must annihilate the Serb war machine and their means of killing innocent people. If USA our country doesn't do the job soon with serb pigs, then we need to prepare to send in the ground troopsin serbia. I don't want to see any needless bloodshed of my brethren who are American, British, German, French, Dutch, etc. However, I consider the cause in Kosova to be a just cause. Albanian in Kosova should go back to ALBANIA i mean UNITED ALBANIA albanian they are warm people they fought turkish empire for 600years very well they save europe from islam invasion but serbs all the time they calobrate with turks we know that the truth is coming now days World watches in serbs It time the World stands behind Albanian Nation My prayers are with you Albanian Erin Florida, United States

irma		27-Apr-2006 05:20
to too serbian you should swim in prison where criminales are put.you are dangerous for serbs too.if you go on using that language you will never be in UN.

irma		27-Apr-2006 05:17
to serbia rules do you really think that anyone exept serbs understant that kind of language?or perhaps you wrote it only for yourself?that language is unknown.none in the world speaks it exept you.who wants to learn a foreign language learns english or french ect. but not serbian of course.it is not so important.

erin		27-Apr-2006 04:30
A whole nation and ethnic group - men, women and children - appear to be incarcerated in a giant prison. Western policy and the media campaign is such that ALL Serbs are being economically and psychologically destroyed. The word "SERBS" has been made synonymous with the word "EVIL." i agree with mr ilir "serbs are pigs" dont worry ilir usa is on your side ,job is done UNITED ALBANIA from Erin S. LaPorte Florida State U. Student

Too Serb		27-Apr-2006 02:57
We will swim in Albainan Blood

ILIR LIKA		27-Apr-2006 00:07
I dont know sometimes what im writttting sometimes i put CAPS LOCK SO EVERYONE CAN SEE IM FRUSTRATED AND MOLESTED AS A KID. forgive me ive been taking it upp to my ass to many times i will do you favor and shoot myself just get me a gun or something i am lying about kla i never seen kalashnikov in my life also i dont put any dots and commas cos i never been to school i think school is for luuzers i was always smoking hashish behind scool i am also having sex dreams with my father i dont know is that normal hes taching me on my secret places i never had sex in my life so i wonder if insest would be ok first experience what you think should i put cucumber to my ass SERBS ONLY DANUBE THEY GOT NOW HA HA HA HA NOTHING ELSE ALBANIAN THEY HAVE EVERYTHING PROUD TO BE ALBANIAN LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA RROFT SHQIPNIA E MADHE

ILIR LIKA		26-Apr-2006 23:49
BESA BES BESEN TA KAM DHAN AS NI SHKA GJALL SKOM ME LAN RRNOFT SHQIPNIA E MADHE

ILIR LIKA		26-Apr-2006 23:43
to SERB PIGS yeah you fucking chetniks i am sorry if your sisters were fuck front and back from KLAor maybe KLA fuck your mothers and then kill them or maybe KLA kill some man of your family cz they were chetniks or maybe KLA ask you to kill your own sister or father or mother then now you are fuck up in your head i see thats what you hate albanian you blody serbs yeah i fucking hate you and hate will be in every albanian towards serbs all the time once a serb man get cought in kosova he will get sloughter like a pig yes we did have lost many peole juring the war but now we are having freedom in kosova you dont hear any more zdravo kume ,gde si bre kume ,kako ide , now you can hear only albanian every were you go police speak albanian cz all are albanian offical language is albanian signs in city are albanian signs in motroways and local roads are albanian everything is albanian it si so nice when i go in kosova in prishtina airport immigration they say welcome in kosova in albanian language in our goverment building you see albanian flag every other place run by govermant you see albanian flag oh is so great at list we are not going to see the ugly flag blu and white with crose of chetniks any more in kosova KOSOVA is geting indepedent soon even those serbs are left in KOSOVA they all are 70year old people 80year old and older exept some young they are still in mitrovica but thee way they live in kosova my god they live like monkeys in the LONDON ZOO they can not go out KFOR has to send to them shooping every day i mean food tthey dont have to pay bills like eletricity or others everything they got for free they eat junk food shit food 24 hour the day they stay inside their house and their neigbhour together next to their house KFOR protect them 24 hours a day there are cheek points so if you are albanian they wont let you go there cz they know even the kid if he can manage to go to their house they will burn a life BABA oh moje sine anyway now they are hundred you can count howmany serbs are left in kosova in their enclaves in next 5 year time we going to clean the last pigs(serbs) those old people some of them they will die some of them they will get burn down with their house cz KFOR can not look after them all the time yes this is how we treat the last pigs are left in kosova is so nice is it i love it when i see serbs get angry cz they lost for ever KOSOVA LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA I LOVE USA AND ENGLAND JA U QIFSHA NANEN NE PIDH DHE MOTRAT JUVE SERBVE RAC MAGJUPI KLA KLA KLA KLA KLA KLA THEY FUCK YOU UP HA HA HA HA

ILIR LIKA		26-Apr-2006 23:33
yes is true i all ways writted all those coments about serbs and i will you fucking serb filthy nation but i did not writted that ILIR LIKA 25-Apr-2006 23:02 I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO ALL SERBS HERE I'M NOT ALRIGHT! THEY LET ME TWO TIMES PER WEEK OUTSIDE!! OTHER DAYS I'M ON ELECTRIC CHAIR OR I'M SUCKING SOME BLACK MEN DICK!!!! I BEEN FUCKED UPP TO MY BREJNS. SERBS RAPED ME WHEN I WAS IN PRISON CAMP! DONT TELL ANY ONE BUT I ENJOYED IT!!!! THATS WHY I COME HERE EVERY DAY!1 I HOPE SOME HANDSOME SERB WOULD FUCK ME AGAIN TO MY ASS!!!111!!! GREAT ALBANIA!!!!! SERBIA WILL BE SMALL AGAIN!!! AHAHHAHAAH CHETNIKS MONKEYS!!! HAHAHAHA GO BACK TO INDIAAAA HAHAHA TUNG TUNG JEBI SE this is not my coment ok rest of coments are mine yes death to serb people nanen ne pidh jua qifsha shkie te flliqt ini kan dhe kini me kan si ju qe jeni shkiet ma te flliqet ne ket dyje kerkush nuk asht jav qifsha motrat e krejt familjen LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA

Shqiptar		26-Apr-2006 23:26
Don't lie ILIR LIKA. we all know that you wrote that too. hell, you wrote 90% comments on this website. Don't embarrass us anymore. Your stupidity has no borders.

ILIR LIKA		26-Apr-2006 18:19
this is not my writting somo chetnik wrote it behalf of my name .serbs are gay a lot not albanian we hate gays i dont care what ever you wrote it in my name cz you serbs all ways in the history wrote it on the name of albanians like this and like this to make world think we are like this no no no not any more cz now we are in 21 century everybody understand lies of serbs against albanian not like beafore serb women use to put bottle on her ass and said albanian did it this or serbs use to break their graves and said albanian did this serbs use to kill their own kids like it happend once in obilich in 1987 serb man cut throat of his kid and put him on the street and screaming joj joj joj lele majke but thanks to many wittness saw that he didi it serbs claim even scanderbeg was serb serb claim even millosh kopli (iqi) was serb and many fake story like you wrote it now like i did wrote that ha ha ha you serb mother fucker albanian are for you a superior race ok you can writte anything in my name my writting is known well all the time cz i hate serbs and i wish god one day this race would take away from earth shity race if not albanian the are preparing for a final destination about serbs our day is coming ven europe and all the world hate serbs exept greek and some i mean some russian they like serbs and that is true fuck all serb nation death to serb nation LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA TO MAKE SURE FROM NOW ON IS ME SERBT JON RACA MA E KEQE NE BOT JON PER ME JA U QI MOTRAT E MAMICAT NA SHQIPTART I KENA QI SERBT PARA E MRAPA ME HISTORI KURR KOSOVEN SKAN KEN TE ZOT ME MAJT NE PAQE EDHE ME ATO ARM ME PAK SE SERRBET QE I KINA PAT I KENA PRE SHKIET SI DERRA ILIR LIKA 25-Apr-2006 23:02 I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO ALL SERBS HERE I'M NOT ALRIGHT! THEY LET ME TWO TIMES PER WEEK OUTSIDE!! OTHER DAYS I'M ON ELECTRIC CHAIR OR I'M SUCKING SOME BLACK MEN DICK!!!! I BEEN FUCKED UPP TO MY BREJNS. SERBS RAPED ME WHEN I WAS IN PRISON CAMP! DONT TELL ANY ONE BUT I ENJOYED IT!!!! THATS WHY I COME HERE EVERY DAY!1 I HOPE SOME HANDSOME SERB WOULD FUCK ME AGAIN TO MY ASS!!!111!!! GREAT ALBANIA!!!!! SERBIA WILL BE SMALL AGAIN!!! AHAHHAHAAH CHETNIKS MONKEYS!!! HAHAHAHA GO BACK TO INDIAAAA HAHAHA TUNG TUNG JEBI SE El3oC 25-Apr-2006 21:54 somebody wrote "Proud to be an albanian...

Serbia Rulez		26-Apr-2006 16:22
ONLY ONE THING TO SAY TO ALBANIAN DEGENERATES Planino moja, planino tugo Planino moja, starino Dosta sam puta vodio, tugo Komitske cete vodio Srpska mi truba zatrubi iz tog sela Drenova Spremte se spremte Cetnici Silna ce borba da bude Spremte se spremte Cetnici Silna ce borba da bude Zagrmi Draza Vojvoda Bacajte bombe, Cetnici Iz ove nase pobede Radja se Sunce slobode!

Too serb		26-Apr-2006 11:21
As i said Virus I think i said LONG LIVE Somewhere

Guest		26-Apr-2006 11:19
As i said Virus

irma		26-Apr-2006 08:17
to guest i am really suprised from cultered people who tell us everyday that we should be tolerant,the only words in their mouth are "death and hate".are you really cultured and religious or you only are masked behind these words?i don't really understand you.

irma.pershendetje!		26-Apr-2006 08:13
to ilir te kuptoj shume mire ilir por evropa po na tregon shume perralla te bukura per tolerancen dhe kulturen prandaj me keto arme do t'jua kthejme pergjigjet dhe mos harro "i duruari i fituari"e ardhmja po shihet tashme ,s'kemi nevoje te lodhemi si me perpara,koha me ne fund po punon per te drejtet

ILIR LIKA		25-Apr-2006 23:02
I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO ALL SERBS HERE I'M NOT ALRIGHT! THEY LET ME TWO TIMES PER WEEK OUTSIDE!! OTHER DAYS I'M ON ELECTRIC CHAIR OR I'M SUCKING SOME BLACK MEN DICK!!!! I BEEN FUCKED UPP TO MY BREJNS. SERBS RAPED ME WHEN I WAS IN PRISON CAMP! DONT TELL ANY ONE BUT I ENJOYED IT!!!! THATS WHY I COME HERE EVERY DAY!1 I HOPE SOME HANDSOME SERB WOULD FUCK ME AGAIN TO MY ASS!!!111!!! GREAT ALBANIA!!!!! SERBIA WILL BE SMALL AGAIN!!! AHAHHAHAAH CHETNIKS MONKEYS!!! HAHAHAHA GO BACK TO INDIAAAA HAHAHA TUNG TUNG JEBI SE

El3oC		25-Apr-2006 21:54
somebody wrote "Proud to be an albanian... AHAHAHAHAHA nice joke m8 proud to have your mothers and sisters working in bars and bordela all over europe??? I dont think so!!

Guest		25-Apr-2006 21:37
tung tung ahahha is that chinese??

ILIR LIKA		25-Apr-2006 21:25
TO IRMA ME SA PO SHOH JU JENI FEMEN APO UNE JAM NGA KOSOVA TE PERSHENDES SHUM FATE E GJITH TE MIRAT NE JET JA KALOFSHIT MIR , SUKSESE TUNG TUNG SHKIET(SERBET ) JON RACA ME E KEQE NE BOT KJO RAC DUHET TE ZHDUKET SA MA SHPEJT SE PERNRYSHE GJITHMON KENA ME PAT PROBLEME ME KET RAC MAGJUPI UNE SERRBET I URREJ AQ SHUM SAQE ME PA NI SERRB SIKUR DIKUSH ME MA GJUE DO KRYP SYVE TUNG TUNG TE FALA

ILIR LIKA		25-Apr-2006 21:21
TO GUEST TO AUSTRALIAN AND OTHER SERBS FUCK OFF FUCK OFF KOSOVA IS NO LONGER ANY MORE WITH SERBIA KOSOVA IS GOING BACK TO OUR MOTHER LAND ALBANIA UNITED ALBANIA IN COMING YEARS WE ARE STILL GOING TO ASK THE USA TO TAKE MORE LAND FROM SERBS IN PRESEVA BUJANOVAC THAN KRAGUJEVAC,NIS,ALEKSINC,PROKUPLE,VRANJE,PUSTA REKA,ETC ETC OH YEAH WE STILL ARE GOING TO GET LAND OF OUR ANCESTORS THOSE LAND YOU TOOK IT FROM ALBANIA IN 1877/1878 BUT NOW OUR TIME IS COMING BACK WE WILL FUCK YOU UP ALL YOU SERBS EVEN NOW UNITED ALBANIA IS BIGGER THAN SERBIA CZ SERBIA THEY LOST EVEN MONTENEGRO BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE WHEN WE WILL GET MORE LAND INSIDE SERBIA ALBANIA WILL LOOK SE BIG COUNTRY SERBS ONLY DANUBE THEY GOT NOW HA HA HA HA NOTHING ELSE ALBANIAN THEY HAVE EVERYTHING PROUD TO BE ALBANIAN LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA

ILIR LIKA		25-Apr-2006 21:12
MY BIOGRAPHY OHHH I LIKE KILLING SERBS WHEN I KILL SERBS MY HEART IS SO COOL AND HAPPY LIKE I WIN A LOTTERY EVEN IF I WIN A LOTTERY I WOULD NOT BE SO HAPPY THE MOST HAPPY DAYS IN MY LIFE WERE WHEN I WAS IN WAR KILLING SERB SOLDIER AND CHETNIKS(PARAMILITARYS) I was recruited into Albania by a member of KLA in Tirana. they provided us with weapons, ammunition, satellite phones and walkie-talkies. That was the middle of March 1998. We trained for three days at a camp in northern (Albania). There were 200 in my unit, and most of the guys came with war experience from Bosnia and other places. Three of them were former members of the Yugoslav state security service in Yugoslavia juring the year 1978-1990 The goal was to fight against the chetniks and to cleanse away their support. I am a albanian patriot. I fought for the albanian cause. I don't care about serbs They're shit. They have dirty children. But we were not killing children or raping women. I mean, that's one of the biggest lies, about the rapes. serb women are so dirty and ugly, how can we rape them? we just kill serb chetniks and vojska ha ha ha LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA

ILIR LIKA		25-Apr-2006 20:59
to serbs may be very interesting SKENDERBEY SS (BALLISTAT) http://www.kosovo.com/skenderbeyss.html THIS WEBSITE I THINK CHETNIK DID IT WHATEVER THERE ARE BEAUTIFUL THINKS TO SEE ESPECIALY JURING SECOND WW2 WE KILL AROUND 40.000 SERBS IS LOVELY EVEN MY GRANDFATHER GOD BLES HIM HE IS DEAD NOW HE WAS TELLING ME HE WAS SKENDERBEY SS DIVISION HE KILL WITH HIS HANDS AND CUTING THROATS OF SERBS LIKE CHIKENS IN WW2 YOU SERBS THINK SOMEBODY LIKE YOU BUT NOBODY LIKE YOU EXEPT RUSSIA EVEN RUSSIAN THEY HATE NOW HA HA HA HA FUCK ALL SERBS NEXT WAR COMING AGAINST SERBS I AM GOING TO FUCK YOUR WIFE NOT SISTERS LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA SERBS SHOULD GO BACK TO INDIA WERE THEY COME FROM YOU GYPSI SERB LATE COMERS IN BALKAN TO AUSTRALIAN YOU MOTHER FUCKER YOU FILTHY SERB REFUGE IN AUTRALIA GO BACJ=K NOW TO INDIA IN YOUR MOTHER LAND YOU GYPSI CZ INDIA IS NOT FAR FROM AUSTRALIA DONT EVEN THINK TO GO TO RUSSIA CZ RUSSIAN THEY WILL KICK YOU AGAIN OUT OF RUSSIA LIKE THEY KICK YOU THAN YOU COME TO BALKAN GO AND FUCK YOU OWN SISTER LIKE ALL YOU SERBS DO FILTHY RACE WE ALBANIAN ARE SUPERIOR RACE TO SERBS WE ARE POOR ARIAN RACE ALL WORLD KNOWS THAT ABOUT ALBANIAN WE RAE THE ARIAN RACE ALL WORLD KNOWS SERBS ARE RUSSIAN / INDIAN RACE MIX RACE GYPSI RACE ANYWAY SERBS ARE FUCK UP NOW THEY WILL LOOS MONTENEGRO BY THIS SUMMER ALREADY THEY LOST KOSOVA ANYWAY KOSOVA ALLWAYS REMAIN TO ALBANIAN SINCE HUMAN BIGAN TO HAVE LIFE ON THE EARTH SO YOU FUCKING AUSTRALIAN SERB REFUGE SERBIA IS SMALL NOW HA HA HA WE ALBANIAN ARE GOING IN SERBIA IN COMING YEARS TO FUCK YOUR SISTERS LIKE AND YOUR MOTHERS FOR 1 EURO YOU SERB PEOPLE WILL COME TO LOOK FOR JOB IN UNITED ALBANIAN LIKE PALESTINIAN WORK FOR JEWS IN ISRAEL BUT WE WILL FUCK YOUR SISITER FIRST THAN WE WILL GIVE YOU A JOB HA HA HA HA HA LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA death to serb nation

ILIR LIKA		25-Apr-2006 20:43
TO CHETNIKS Serbia's hunger for conquest, for the age-old dream of the Serbs has been to have access to the sea; they coveted the seashores of Albania. The project to create a state extending to the Adriatic which would comprise all of the southern Slavs but where the Serbs intended to be the sole rulers, may be traced as far back as the eighteenth century. This project was very much alive among the Serbs at the beginning of the twentieth century. However, the Adriatic seashores inhabited by the southern Slavs could be included in the future state only after the destruction of the Austro-Hungarian Empire to which these territories belonged. The destruction of this empire was thus urgent. The presence of the Albanians on the Adriatic was also undesirable and had to be eliminated.but serb dream never come especialy even montenegro is going hey chetniks from now on have holiday in dirty water of danub cz you serbs are dirty pigs As a result of the Treaty of Berlin 1877, Serbia, which already had state autonomy, was enlarged. The aggrandizement of her territory was also made possible at the expense of the Albanians, who inhabited the towns granted to her, namely Kurshumlija, Leskovac, Vranja, Toplica and Nish etc etc we will get back again this teritories from chetniks like israel did to palestinians same we will do to serbs united albania for balkan will be like israel ILIR LIKA

Guest		25-Apr-2006 18:25
Irma look around yourself, EVERYONE IN THE REGION HATES ALBANIANS, everyone! Maybe you dont realise that..

Guest		25-Apr-2006 14:32
The pictures of Belgrade are nice but the forum is pointless.

irma		25-Apr-2006 06:10
p s i was not born not yet when tito died so you can cry and cry as much as you want for him hahahahahahaha

irma		25-Apr-2006 06:05
go and fight with the whole world "too serbian"with slovenians,croatians,bosnians,hungarians and the result??all will hate you and your people.is that what you really like?

irma		25-Apr-2006 06:01
i am not going darling because i am not russian by origins as you are.albanians are more ancient than you in balcan ,iand i don't speak stupitidies as you do.i wanted to have a debate with elias not whith you.you seem so ignorant in politics.have you ever been at school?

Too Serb		25-Apr-2006 02:42
To Irma Is this a Serbian web site or Albo ??? As i said fuck off back to albinia you communist lover , You love tito and his Bratvo jedinstvo more than anything on this earth We cant live togeather it's Over,,,,, we tryed go you own way , cao Tito is dead and still fucking The serbs , irma can i aske you something , Did you cry when Tito Died ????I think you did , Thats Lubav , you must be commo hard ,,,, Abanians are like a Viruse , thay just spred with there inbread Family , Kosovo will be serb once agian, LONG LIVE THE SERBIAN CHETNIKS DEATH TO THE REDS ' Zivo Cica Draza , Zivo Obilic

irma		24-Apr-2006 16:19
if I have to look someone ,ilir is not the only one,I should look "too serbian "who is an extreeeeeeem extremist and other serbs too who spread dangerous declarations.

irma hoxha		24-Apr-2006 16:11
if you want to be europians don't be be wild communists but try to construct democracy as other people are trying to do

Guest		24-Apr-2006 13:22
FOR ELIAS AND OTHER GREEKS, HAPPY EASTER! Christos Anesti! Alithos Anesti!

Guest		24-Apr-2006 13:20
irma hoxha the only ones spreading hate are Albanians. Look at Ilir Lika, his every word is shit and fuck.

Too Serb		24-Apr-2006 04:18
To Irma How about you fuck off back to albina and take you inbred family with you LONG LIVE THE SERBIAN CHETNIKS DEATH TO THE REDS Zivo Cica Draza

irma hoxha		23-Apr-2006 23:53
do you realy belive in god elias?I mean if you realy belive in god why don't you control your feelings and why did our orthodox-brothers burn the whole balcan?The whole world is working to provide human rights and what are serbs doing ?There are only going to spread hatress everywhere.Albanians have always tolerated thats why they will be the winers.

irma hoxha		23-Apr-2006 23:49
do you realy belive in god elias?I mean if you realy belive in god why don't you control your feelings and why did our orthodox-brothers burn the whole balcan?The whole world is working to provide human rights and what are serbs doing ?There are only going to spread hatress everywhere.Albanians have always tolerated thats why they will be the winers.

Guest		23-Apr-2006 21:51
EASTER GREETINGS! Albanian: Krishti Ungjall! Vertete Ungjall! Arabic: Al Maseeh Qam! Haqqan Qam! Armenian: Christos harjav i merelotz! Orhniale harutjun Christosi! Byelorussian: Khristos Uvoskros! Zaprowdu Uvoskros! Chinese: Helisituosi fuhuole! Queshi fuhuole! Coptic: Pikhirstof aftonf! Khen o methni aftonf! Czech: Kristus vstal zmrtvy'ch! Skutec ne vstal! Danish: Kristus er opstanden! Ja, sandelig opstanden! Dutch: Christus is opgestaan! Hij is waarlijk opgestaan! English: Christ is Risen! Indeed, He is Risen! Estonian: Kristus on surnuist ülestõusnud! Tõesti ülestõusnud! Finnish: Kristus nousi Kuolleista! Totisesti Nousi!Christ est Ressuscité! En Vérité, Il est Ressuscité! Gaelic: Erid Krist! G'deya! n erid she! Irish Gaelic: Tá Críosd ar éirigh! Go deimhin, tá e ar éirigh! Scots' Gaelic: Tha Crìosd air èiridh! Gu dearbh, tha e air èiridh! Georgian: Kriste aghsdga! Cheshmaritad aghsdga! Greek: Christos Anesti! Alithos Anesti! Hebrew: Ha Mashiyach qam! Ken hoo qam! Hungarian: Krisztus feltámadt! Valóban feltámadt! Italian: Cristo è risorto! È veramente risorto! Japanese: Harisutosu Fukkatsu! Jitsu Ni Fukkatsu! Latin: Christus resurrexit! Vere resurrexit! Norwegian: Kristus er oppstanden! Han er sannelig opstanden! Polish: Khristus Zmartvikstau! Zaiste Zmartvikstau! Portugese: Christo Ressuscitou! Em Verdade Ressuscitou! Rumanian: Hristos a Inviat! Adeverat a Inviat! Russian: Khristos voskres! Voistinu voskres! Serbian: Hristos Vaskrse! Vaistinu Vaskrse! Slavonic: Christos Voskrese! Voistinu Voskrese! Slovak: Kristus vstal zmr'tvych! Skutoc ne vstal! Spanish: Cristo ha resucitado! Verdaderamente ha resucitado! Swedish: Kristus är upstånden! Ja, Han är sannerligen uppstånden! Syriac: Meshiha qam! Bashrira qam! Ukranian: Kristos Voskres! Voistinu voskres!

Vlad		23-Apr-2006 17:15
MINE BEST WISHES TO MINE OTHODOX BROTHERS: "CRISTOS A INVIAT". IT MEANING: JESUS IS REBORN.

Guest		21-Apr-2006 19:36
who is mile kitic? One of the most serbian singer?

Australia		21-Apr-2006 13:45
ILIR LIKA you dumb motherfucker the UN wont protect the Albanians forever and america is slowly running out of bullets in the middle east whos going to protect you nato (ha)we are all sick of you fucken maggots i would call you dogs but dogs have a soul.The world wont mix anymore they know the serbs were right

New Guest		19-Apr-2006 18:18
To Torsten Do you understand only german? OK: Belgrad ist sehr sehr schön. Hier findest Du sehr viele Jugendstilfassaden (Art Nouveau), in den Strassen spazieren sehr viele junge Menschen. Die Menschen hier sind enorm gebildet (very well educated) und sehr freundlich. Speziell an Belgrad ist, dass Du hier sowohl in der Architektur, als auch kulinarisch ein Verschmelzen von Occident und Orient findest. Ich empfehle Dir Belgrad wirklich, zu besuchen. Viel Spass! Enjoy Belgrade!

Guest		12-Apr-2006 17:44
what's about: "Ajde Jano kolo da igramo, ajde jano ajde duso kolo na prodamo"?

Guest		12-Apr-2006 17:10
@Torsten Janson Belgrad schaut viel besser jetzt, diese sind alte Fotos, viele geänderte Sachen. Wir begrüßen Sie zu unserer Stadt. Mein deutch ist schlecht :)

Torsten Janson		12-Apr-2006 14:33
Sehr nette Abbildungen. Ich erwartete nicht, daß Belgrad wie dieses aussieht. Es ist unglaublich, wie Fernsehapparatmedias unseren Verstand diferent bilden können. Ich bin ein schwedisches und traurig für schlechten Deutschen, ist es die einzige weithin bekannte Sprache, die ich kenne. Viele Begrüßungen zu den Belgradbürgern! Ich komme bald, wie möglich!

Torsten Janson		12-Apr-2006 14:30
Sehr nette Abbildungen. Ich erwartete nicht, daß Belgrad wie dieses aussieht. Es ist unglaublich, wie Fernsehapparatmedias unseren Verstand diferent bilden können. Ich bin ein schwedisches und traurig für schlechten Deutschen, ist es die einzige weithin bekannte Sprache, die ich kenne. Viele Begrüßungen zu den Belgradbürgern! Ich komme bald, wie möglich!

Tirana		11-Apr-2006 12:13
Ilir you should stop now, really! There is no need to insult people. You hate Serbs and i can understand that, but there is no need to show it here. Keep hate for you! We were discussing normally before you came, but we can't go on like this. Please stop! Plako e di qe je kosovar dhe qe ke vuajtur po keshtu sic sillesh ti nuk do zgjidhesh asgje. Per me teper, tregoi qe shqiptaret dine te flasin me argumenta dhe me gjuhe te zgjedhur se ashtu do e nderosh me shume vendin tone. Shendet, tung

ILIR LIKA		10-Apr-2006 23:05
to guest you are a funny chetnik certani film ehe Dusko Dugousko HA HA HA HA HA was my favourite carton film hajt qao from ILIR LIKA iz PRISHTINA

Guest		10-Apr-2006 18:43
To Ilir Lika Hey, Lika, maybe you've missed line when God was dealing brain ?? Srecno ti bilo brate, ali tebi ni Bog ne moze da pomogne. Oh well....... sto bi reko Dusko Dugousko hahahahaha

Guest		10-Apr-2006 18:43
To Ilir Lika Hey, Lika, maybe you've missed line when God was dealing brain ?? Srecno ti bilo brate, ali tebi ni Bog ne moze da pomogne. Oh well....... sto bi reko Dusko Dugousko hahahahaha Njokica

ILIR LIKA		10-Apr-2006 03:19
HEJ NJOKICA MAYBE YOU MISS OLD TIME LISTEN SOME SONGS "COMRADE TITO OUR OATH TO YOU" http://www.titoville.com/songs-mp3.html HAJT JEBI SE CHETNIKE QAO

ILIR LIKA		10-Apr-2006 03:05
to njokica(guest) jebi se bre you are not my fucking BRATE ok dont tell me what to do shell i sleep or work dont worry i got my own bussines you are a funny man KOSOVO JE NAS HA HA HA HA BRATSVO JEDINSTVO A MAJKU TI JEBEM NOW VELIKA ALBANIA JA SAM SHQIPTARI HA HA HA SRBIJU SMRT! ZIVILA VELIKA ALBANIA! TUNG TUNG NATEN E MIR

Guest		09-Apr-2006 21:27
Oho hoooo pa ko se to meni toliko iznervirao, a? Dragi moj Lika, kanda si nesto malkice nervozan sto ti rekoh sve ono? Pa brate, i Boga i oca i ti nerviras vise ovde pa ne vidim da se narod nesto gica i bacaka okolo. Doduse, ruku na srce, nista ti ja od onog tvojeg socinenija, sto bi reko Vuk Stefanovic Karadzic, nisam razumeo al pravo da ti kazem - niti me interesuje. Nego sine, ko sto rekoh u predjasnjem postu, idi ti i pojebi nesto zestoko u komsiluku da se malkice smiris a onda sjasi s tog kompjutera i gledaj da radis nesto od cega se zivi - tu, naravno, ne mislim na cerupanje ukradenih automobila diljem Evrope, svercovanju narkotika svih vrsta, prodajom belog roblja i seks trafikingom (uh sto ne volim taj izraz, trafiking) nego necim postenim, casnim i dostojnim NORMALNOG coveka sto se iskreno nadam da jesi. Ajde, odo' ja na spavanje jer i sutra treba raditi, ici u njivu i tako to a ti, ako BAS nemas nista drugo da radis, dodji da pomognes - em ces biti umoran pa ces lepo da spavas em neces maltretirati ovaj narod ovde tvojim glupim baljezgarijama. Laku ti noc zelim Njokica

Guest		09-Apr-2006 21:16
TO Ilir Lika I'm sure you understand more than well because you probably weren't born in Cambridge and I'm SURE english is not your native lnaguage - yes, my dear Lika, you bloody understand every word I wrote and there's an ancient saying which is: Istina uvek boli. So please get out of this place if the only thing you know is to reproduce prepared politics brochure without using your head to think about the world you live in. Njokica

Guest		09-Apr-2006 21:12
TO Ilir Lika I'm sure you understand more than well because you probably weren't born in Cambridge and I'm SURE english is not your native lnaguage - yes, my dear Lika, you bloody understand every word I wrote and there's an ancient saying which is: Istina uvek boli. So please get out of this place if the only thing you know is to reproduce prepared politics brochure without using your head to think about the world you live in. Njokica

ILIR LIKA		09-Apr-2006 21:10
TO GUEST O SHKA TA QIFSHA FAMILIN PO JU JENI NJE RAC MUTI QE VINI NGA INDIA PO UNE GJUHEN E JUAJ E URREJ SHUM. JU SHKIT JENI NJE RAC E FELLIQET E PO JU VJEN INAT SE KOSOVA JU KA IKUR PER GJITHMON ,PO EDHE ASHTU SKA KEN KURR KOSOVA E SERRBIS KOSOVA KA KEN E SHQIPNIS GJITHEHER DHE KOSOVA DO TE BASHKOHET ME SHQIPNIN DO BEHET SHQIPNIA E MADHE DHE KUR TE BEHEMI SHQIPNIA E MADHE KENA MU JA QI MOTRAT JUVE SHKIVE BASHKIMI EVROPIAN APO "EU" DHE "USA" PO E PRANOJN PAVARSIN E KOSOVES DHE NUK PO JU PYESEIN JUVE QETNIKVE KESHTU QE KOSOVA ATY DIKU KAH FUNDI I KETIJ VITI DO BEHET SHTET I PAVARUR DHE MA VON SHQIPNIA E MADHE APO JU SHKIT SI THONI Ujedinjenoj Albaniji NANEN MOTRAT FAMILIN E KREJT KENA ME JA U QI RAC MUTI HAJT TUNG TUNG RRNOFT SHQIPNIA E MADHE

ILIR LIKA		09-Apr-2006 21:01
TO GUEST i dont understand your filthy language

Guest		09-Apr-2006 19:21
To Ilir Lika Daj bre covece sjasi vise s tom tvojom tiradom o Albaniji, Albancima, Siptarima i ostalim sranjima. Imam za tebe samo JEDNO pitanje: Je li, majke ti, kad toliko kukas (kukate) o toj Albaniji - pa sto bre sine majcin ne odoste svi sa Kosova u Albaniju da zivite? Za ono 5-6 godina koliko provedoh po terenima na Kosovu, ja ne videh NI JEDNOG kosovskog siptara da ode da zivi preko - al' su zato u buljucima bezali iz Albanije ovamo. To o cemu ti pricas i u grudi se busas ko Dzoni Vajsmiler je lepo, ali batice ako nisi znao - on je bio jedini i najbolji Tarzan - a ti to SIGURNO nisi. Ta tvoja kuknjava za ujedinjenom Albanijom mi lici, bez uvrede, na ona seseljeva sranja o velikoj Srbiji. Znas ono "Svi Svbi u jednoj velikoj Svbiji" kako bi on rekao. Pre njega je o tome pricao i onaj pokojni kreten Sloba, tamo dole na Gazimestanu '89 i ja sam odmah rekao - najebasmo mi sa ovim covekom, bice rata. Zasto? Pa zato brale sto ondasnja Juga imade 6 republika i 2 pokrajine a Sloba rece "Svi Srbi u jednoj drzavi" - i svi pocese da pljeskaju rukama i svrsavaju od srece ko da je, u najmanju ruku, pronasao izvore nafte bolje nego u Bruneju. Kako bre da napravis to sa Srbima u jednoj drzavi kad ih ima svuda? To samo znaci da mora da dodje do rata da bi se takvo nesto ostvarilo jer je Srba bilo po celoj Jugoslaviji. To ti je, Lika moj, ista zamka u koju ste sad vi Albanci uvuceni. I vas, Bogu hvala, ima svuda i ti sad kukas o nekoj velikoj, Ujedinjenoj Albaniji. Kad bi ti, sine moj, malo izvukao glavu iz sopstvenog dupeta ili gde si je vec zabio, uvideo bi samo jedno a to je sledece: Ameri, a po malo i EU, vas koriste iskljucivo za svoje dnevne potrebe ili petogodisnje planove. Pa zar ti stvarno mislis, nesretnice nijedan, da ce EU da dozvoli da se na njenom jugu napravi velika muslimanska drzava? Ako to mislis onda si: pod A) nevidjeno glup seljober kakvih i sama Srbija ima za izvoz (Sloba compatible) pod B) covek koji vise veruje nekome ko mu kaze da ce od sutra nebo SVAKAKO biti zuto i ti ces se na krv i noz potuci sa svakim ko se usudi da kaze da nije tako, i pod C) jos jedna ljudska jedinka kojoj je mozak ispran tako temeljno kao da si ti, zajedno s nama, uzivao u emisijama RTSa za vreme Slobe. E sad, posto si izgleda sa tim svojim sranjima dosadio i Bogu i narodu i Alahu i svim normalnim ljudima koji svracaju na ovu stranicu, idi brate mili nadji neku mladu, pohotnu i nezajazljivu devojcicu tu kod tebe u komsiluku i karaj je bre dok ti oci ne ispadnu ili dok ona dusu svoju plemenitu ne ispusti - samo sjasi bre vise odavde. A ako ti je vec devojcica nedostupna, onda prostri novine na pod kupatila, nasloni celo na 'ladne plocice pa mu ga daj po junackoj desnici dok ne obijes BAR prva tri reda plocica. Videces, zivot ce ti izgledati mnogo ruzicastiji. Ajd ziv bio, ne zameri na ovim propovedima jednog 40godisnjeg cike iz okoline Beograda, i idi radi nesto korisno - samo nemoj ovde vise da davis. Njokica

Guest		09-Apr-2006 16:27
Ilir Lika you are one really boring and mentaly ill man, best wishes for your recovery

ILIR LIKA		09-Apr-2006 04:11
TO CHETNIKS Serbia's hunger for conquest, for the age-old dream of the Serbs has been to have access to the sea; they coveted the seashores of Albania. The project to create a state extending to the Adriatic which would comprise all of the southern Slavs but where the Serbs intended to be the sole rulers, may be traced as far back as the eighteenth century. This project was very much alive among the Serbs at the beginning of the twentieth century. However, the Adriatic seashores inhabited by the southern Slavs could be included in the future state only after the destruction of the Austro-Hungarian Empire to which these territories belonged. The destruction of this empire was thus urgent. The presence of the Albanians on the Adriatic was also undesirable and had to be eliminated.but serb dream never come especialy even montenegro is going hey chetniks from now on have holiday in dirty water of danub cz you serbs are dirty pigs As a result of the Treaty of Berlin 1877, Serbia, which already had state autonomy, was enlarged. The aggrandizement of her territory was also made possible at the expense of the Albanians, who inhabited the towns granted to her, namely Kurshumlija, Leskovac, Vranja, Toplica and Nish etc etc we will get back again this teritories from chetniks like israel did to palestinians same we will do to serbs united albania for balkan will be like israel

ILIR LIKA		09-Apr-2006 04:08
TO EVERYBODY AND CHETNIKS various historical data should be taken into account .With respect to the Albanian-inhabited regions, it is important to point out the following facts: 1. It is undeniable that the Albanians are, together with the Greeks, the oldest people in the Balkans. 2. It also is an admitted fact that the Slavs are actually late comers in the Balkans. They did not even come as conquerors; they migrated in small groups. 3. True, the Albanian-inhabited regions were ruled by the Serbs for a brief period of time. But so were parts of Greece. The population remained Albanian as it was prior to the Serbian conquest. 4. The regions in question were not lost to the Turks in 1389. At the time of the Kosova battle, Serbia was small. 5. Prior to the Serbian occupation, the regions in question were for a period of time under Bulgarian rule. Scholars assert that the Slavic names of villages and other places both in Greece and in Albania date from the Bulgarian rather than from the Serbian occupation. 6. The Battle of Kosova was not fought by the Serbs alone, but by a coalition of Balkan nations. The number of the Albanians who took part in it was not negligible. Moreover, the hero of the battle, Milosh Kopili (who became known under his Slavised name as Milosh Obilich) was an Albanian.

ILIR LIKA		09-Apr-2006 04:06
SAME COMMENT TO YOU AGAIN I JUST LIKE TO FUCK YOUR MUSLIM SISTER OR CHETNIK SISTER TO MIKA OH MY GOD YOU ARE FINNISH OR SERB REFUGE or that muslim man FROM BOSNIA REFUGE IN FINLAND YOU ARE PICE OF SHIT FROM FINLAND if you are serb i would not fuck your sister if you are finnish i would i see you coming from a country where suicide is the bigest on the world every second finnish men kill himself ha ha ha cz you are a fucking boring people all your women from finland i have seen in london they fuck with black people (monkey) i had three finnish women on the past they are mad after albanians ,italians,spanish especialy with monkeys they fuck a lot when you ask them why you dont have dinnish boyfriend they said finnish man they are cold man bored man only one time per week they fuck their wifes 50% of finnish mens are gays i saw finnish troops in kosova the most civilized soldier of course they all are pussy soldier ha ha ha albanian we rae proud of our race we rae not like you finnish people like white cream and ginger hair yes your womens are nice and not many albanian refuge are in finland bad the way i got one friend he live in finland he invited me to go there just to fuck finnish womens he told me he fuck about 10 finnish married women cz their husband they cant fuck theirs you should thank refuges cz they are keeping your womens happy tell your sister to come to this forum and tell her one albanian man want to fuck you i promise you she will say oh yes albanian they fuck good if your mother she is under 50 tell her to go in africa monkey they will fuck her so fuck you DEATH TO SERB NATION

Mika H�kkinen		08-Apr-2006 19:16
To Ilir Lika Don't even dare to compare Albania to Finland with your sandy roads.YOu still live in stoneage.You Albanians don't even know how to build anything.All your Albanian women are fucking whores.You are all some pimps,thieves and drug dealers.I'm sure that you already sold your sister,wife and mother to Italy. Without UN and America you would have been all driven out of Kosovo by Serbs.Serbs would have been taking even Albania.You were begging for those NATO bombs and after you were running like chickens with shit in the pants.Before that bombarding Serbs would have cleaned well that Kosovo.You are so much afraid of Serbs and Serb police.You are so shit warriors. DEATH TO YOU AND TO ALL ALBANIAN SHITS LIKE YOU!!!GO TO CLEAN SOME COWSHIT, THE MODERN TECHNOLOGY IS NOT FOR YOU!

ILIR LIKA		08-Apr-2006 14:17
TO MIKA OH MY GODYOU ARE FINNISH OR SERB REFUGE FROM FINLAND if you are serb i would not fuck your sister if you are finnish i would i see you coming from a country where suicide is the bigest on the world every second finnish men kill himself ha ha ha cz you are a fucking boring people all your women from finland i have seen in london they fuck with black people (monkey) i had three finnish women on the past they are mad after albanians ,italians,spanish especialy with monkeys they fuck a lot when you ask them why you dont have dinnish boyfriend they said finnish man they are cold man bored man only one time per week they fuck their wifes 50% of finnish mens are gays i saw finnish troops in kosova the most civilized soldier of course they all are pussy soldier ha ha ha albanian we rae proud of our race we rae not like you finnish people like white cream and ginger hair yes your womens are nice and not many albanian refuge are in finland bad the way i got one friend he live in finland he invited me to go there just to fuck finnish womens he told me he fuck about 10 finnish married women cz their husband they cant fuck theirs you should thank refuges cz they are keeping your womens happy tell your sister to come to this forum and tell her one albanian man want to fuck you i promise you she will say oh yes albanian they fuck good if your mother she is under 50 tell her to go in africa monkey they will fuck her so fuck you DEATH TO SERB NATION

beogradjanka35		08-Apr-2006 02:40
Mislim da je SRBIJA ipak SRBIJA!!!Zavidni i iskompleksirani ljudi su kivni samo na nas ali oni nisu svesni da nas time samo jacaju i...ne moze nam niko nista!!!Najjaci na Balkanu u svemu.Kompleksasi setajte!!!

Mika H�kkinen		07-Apr-2006 20:05
Ilir Lika, I'm a Finnish soldier from UN and I've been to Kosovo.All you fucking Shiptar refugees came here to Finland and to Scandinavia to live from our welfare or to work as a cleaners of cowshit in farms.I'm sick of you and your fucking nationalism.Only Albanians change their nationality to Italian and Greek to get more chicks.Some Blerim is Bruno and some Mustafa is Tony.HAHAHA how pathetic. About other primitive part of your post.I'm not gonna tell you that I'll fuck your mother and sisters cause I wouldn't touch to those bitches even with a stick.Go buy some condoms and learn how to take it out on time before you get an army of kids which you cannot feed.You poor motherfucker. You wouldn't be in this forum unless you so much envy the Serbs or you don't have any friends or any life and this way you cry for attention.FUCK YOU ILIR DICK!

Guest		07-Apr-2006 19:59
It's a real miracle how every nice place on this planet, even this forum with nice pics of these cities, must have someone who is so arogantly blind and full of his own crap like this Ilir Lika guy. What is your problem man anyway? I even have some serious second thoughts of calling you a 'man'. People like you (and not because you are Albanian - for me, you could easily be a Lucifer's little brother as well) are the ones who make life much more harder to live in peace. Of course, there are Serbs, Germans, Croats who are stupidly blinded with other people's ideas and will act/write/think like you - Tudjman, Milosevic and Izetbegovic made their fortunes on behalf of such stupid actions. If you could just stop for the moment and think with your OWN head instead of taking others attitudes for granted, you'd be able to see a totally different picture, bigger than stupid ideas of great Serbia or united Albania. I live near Belgrade and I can tell that in army I've had really great friends among Albanians, have friends in Prizren, Pristina... please try to explain to me how come that, living peacefully with your Serbian/non Albanian neighbours for years, suddenly, when someone starts to make all kinds of efforts to convince you that all bad things that have happened to you in your life were happened because of your neighbours - and you actually start to BELIEVE it ? By MHO this planet would be much more better for living without people like you, no matter is he/she Albanian, Serb, Croat.... God help you and people like you - or Allah or whatever you call god.

ILIR LIKA		07-Apr-2006 19:21
to mika ha ha ha ha you fucking serb you change your name from serb to others country cz you are shame you are a serb man majku ti jebem jebemti sestru tell to your sister to come and suck my cock fuck off you are a refuge all serbs are refuge runing from albanian runing from croats runing from nato etc etc fuck you jebi se long live UNITED ALBANIA

Guest		07-Apr-2006 19:07
It's a real miracle how every nice place on this planet, even this forum with nice pics of these cities, must have someone who is so arogantly blind and full of his own crap like this Ilir Lika guy. What is your problem man anyway? I even have some serious second thoughts of calling you a 'man'. People like you (and not because you are Albanian - for me, you could easily be a Lucifer's little brother as well) are the ones who make life much more harder to live in peace. Of course, there are Serbs, Germans, Croats who are stupidly blinded with other people's ideas and will act/write/think like you - Tudjman, Milosevic and Izetbegovic made their fortunes on behalf of such stupid actions. If you could just stop for the moment and think with your OWN head instead of taking others attitudes for granted, you'd be able to see a totally different picture, bigger than stupid ideas of great Serbia or united Albania. I live near Belgrade and I can tell that in army I've had really great friends among Albanians, have friends in Prizren, Pristina... please try to explain to me how come that, living peacefully with your Serbian/non Albanian neighbours for years, suddenly, when someone starts to make all kinds of efforts to convince you that all bad things that have happened to you in your life were happened because of your neighbours - and you actually start to BELIEVE it ? By MHO this planet would be much more better for living without people like you, no matter is he/she Albanian, Serb, Croat.... God help you and people like you - or Allah or whatever you call god.

Mika H�kkinen		07-Apr-2006 17:46
Ilir Lika, You are posting like a maniac.Every word is fuck and shit.YOU ARE WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT.This is not Balkan forum this is Belgrade,Serbia forum.You are so jeaulous of Serbia and Serbian people.They are ten times better than all of you Albanians.YOU ARE SO FUCKING UNEDUCATED YOU STUPID SHIPTAR. QIFSHA NANEN PIDH!Go back to that bunker from where you crawled you fucking refugee.No one is even writing to here.You are fighting with yourself you stupid monkey.Go and get a life instead of wanking at your comp.They should confiscate your comp from that refugee camp where you are now.

ILIR LIKA		07-Apr-2006 00:30
HEY CHETNIKS KOSOVA IS GONE HA HA HA HA WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE HOLIDAY THIS SUMMER MAYBE "IN DANUB " HA HA HA MONTENEGRO IS GONE YOU SERBS MAY NEED VISA TO GO THERE IN COMING YEARS WHEN WE WILL GET INDEPEDENCE THIS YEAR WE WILL SHOOT IN SERBIAN HOUSES AND PISS AND BURN THEM FOR PARTY DEATH TO SERBS

ILIR LIKA		07-Apr-2006 00:24
better with american than turkish you fucking bosnian are turkish ass kissers we albanian are close ally with americans and friends you dont like americans cz chetniks they sloughter bosnian muslim people like pigs for 4 years and nobody care about bosnaian cz you thought your turkish brothers will help you turkish are the most dirty nation on the world like arabs and you bosnian muslim are same shit albanian they hate bosnian people we say in kosova if you cut a bosnian muslim you will find in his body 10 chetniks so bosnian muslim they are so fucking idiots thanks to god they dont have a power other ways they will be vorse than serbs anyway you are serb blod fuck bosnian and fuck serbs albanian all ways they like only croats and slovenians in ex yugoslavaia so fuck off go to arab forum or turkish forum this is balkan forum death to serbs Long Live United Albania

optimist		06-Apr-2006 21:43
Ilir Lika You Albanians are American ass kissers.And you are the biggest ass kissers in the world.You have no pride and you would do whatever for money.You are problem in all over the Europe but Bosnians are not.Bosnian Muslims are better people than you Albanians.No one likes you in Europe.You are so hated in Italy and everywhere.Only in America they like you because they don't know what kind of shits you are.

Tadija		06-Apr-2006 19:31
Mir svatovi!

ILIR LIKA		06-Apr-2006 16:06
ALEX I KNOW THAT WEBSITE LONG TIME AGO I ALL WAYS POST COMENTS TO AT THAT WEBSITE ALEX MAJKU TI JEBEM LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA

ILIR LIKA		06-Apr-2006 16:03
optimist mind your own business i dont care what are you muslim or other i am albanian ok and proud to be albanian you filthy muslim fuck off we albanian cz of you muslim when you give to us your religion by force we had a hard life in europe but now morden day we albanian we respect our ancestors our great great granfathers who they were roman catholic so we are on their way fuck of yopu blody muslim go back to turkey I HATE SERBS I HATE SERBS LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA

Optimist		06-Apr-2006 15:03
Ilir Lika I must say that you are very crazy guy.I'm a Muslim by myself but I'm not Albanian.You have too much hate in your heart.That's very dangerous you know.All that hate and nationalism what you got won't lead you anywhere.Eventually they will destroy you.You should know what all that nationalism and hate caused in Balkans.It's time to move on and to try to forget the past even if it's hard.Only like that you can live peacefully.All sides did horrible things to each others in last Balkan wars.Still you have been living in peace for hundreds of years before ww2.

Guest		06-Apr-2006 11:50
Alex Belgrade.You could join to this forum:http://www.balkanforums.com/index.php There are discussions about Kosovo and about history of Balkans.I'm sure that your comments would leave many members speechless.Usually they are asking links as proves and they don't allow swearing and personal insulting there.There are many Albanians with big mouth there but not many Serbs..Anyway you could take a look cause it might be interesting.I can see from your posts here that you have smart comments.

ILIR LIKA		05-Apr-2006 23:48
JA SAM STRSLJEN HA HA HA HA HA THATS ALL FOR TONITE BYE BYE

ILIR LIKA		05-Apr-2006 23:28
TO FR Immediately after World War II, Tito decided that each of the nationalities in Yugoslavia should have its own republic -- even Montenegro, still tiny although its territory had more than doubled following the Treaty of Berlin. The Albanians, however, were not allowed to have their own republic despite the fact that they were more numerous than the Montenegrins and the Macedonians. Some 40 000 of them died in the first years following World War II; others were ruthlessly beaten and tortured. When Rankovic was in power, a treaty was signed with Turkey, on the basis of which 300 000 Albanians were driven out of Kosova and forcefully sent to Turkey.yes i know Rankovic BUT SERBS IN KOSOVA ARE PAYING NOW

ILIR LIKA		05-Apr-2006 23:23
TO EVERYBODY AND CHETNIKS various historical data should be taken into account .With respect to the Albanian-inhabited regions, it is important to point out the following facts: 1. It is undeniable that the Albanians are, together with the Greeks, the oldest people in the Balkans. 2. It also is an admitted fact that the Slavs are actually late comers in the Balkans. They did not even come as conquerors; they migrated in small groups. 3. True, the Albanian-inhabited regions were ruled by the Serbs for a brief period of time. But so were parts of Greece. The population remained Albanian as it was prior to the Serbian conquest. 4. The regions in question were not lost to the Turks in 1389. At the time of the Kosova battle, Serbia was small. 5. Prior to the Serbian occupation, the regions in question were for a period of time under Bulgarian rule. Scholars assert that the Slavic names of villages and other places both in Greece and in Albania date from the Bulgarian rather than from the Serbian occupation. 6. The Battle of Kosova was not fought by the Serbs alone, but by a coalition of Balkan nations. The number of the Albanians who took part in it was not negligible. Moreover, the hero of the battle, Milosh Kopili (who became known under his Slavised name as Milosh Obilich) was an Albanian.

ILIR LIKA		05-Apr-2006 23:18
TO CHETNIKS Serbia's hunger for conquest, for the age-old dream of the Serbs has been to have access to the sea; they coveted the seashores of Albania. The project to create a state extending to the Adriatic which would comprise all of the southern Slavs but where the Serbs intended to be the sole rulers, may be traced as far back as the eighteenth century. This project was very much alive among the Serbs at the beginning of the twentieth century. However, the Adriatic seashores inhabited by the southern Slavs could be included in the future state only after the destruction of the Austro-Hungarian Empire to which these territories belonged. The destruction of this empire was thus urgent. The presence of the Albanians on the Adriatic was also undesirable and had to be eliminated.but serb dream never come especialy even montenegro is going hey chetniks from now on have holiday in dirty water of danub cz you serbs are dirty pigs

ILIR LIKA		05-Apr-2006 23:11
to chetniks As a result of the Treaty of Berlin 1877, Serbia, which already had state autonomy, was enlarged. The aggrandizement of her territory was also made possible at the expense of the Albanians, who inhabited the towns granted to her, namely Kurshumlija, Leskovac, Vranja, Toplica and Nish etc etc we will get back again this teritories from chetniks like israel did to palestinians same we will do to serbs united albania for balkan will be like israel

ILIR LIKA		05-Apr-2006 22:46
TO FR HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA YOU MAKE ME SMILE GOOD AND I AM HAPPY YOU ARE ANGRY BYE BYE BYE TO KOSOVA KOSOVA IS GETING TOGETHER WITH ALBANIA IN COMING YEARS UNITED ALBANIA YES I KNOW RANKOVICH HE WAS NOTHING JUST PICE OF SHIT NOBODY CARES OF HIM AT THE TIME ,YES HE HAD A POWER SO WHAT NOW WE HAVE OUR HOLLY KOSOVA KOSOVA WAS ALBANIAN LAND YOU SERB TOOK IT FROM US IN 1912 NOW BY 2012 GREAT ALBANIA WITH KOSOVA HA HA HA I AM KLA SOLDIER I COULD NOT REMEMBER HOW MANY SERB WOMEN I FUCK JURING THE WAR PLENTY PLENTY OF THEM AND AFTER THE WAR WE KICK YOU OUT OF KOSOVA LIKE A PIGS NO SERBS LEFT IN KOSOVA JUST FEW OLD PEOPLE 80 / 90 YEARS OLD THEY ARE PROTECTED BY KFOR LIKE ANIMALS ON ZOO OTHER WAYS ................EVEN THOSE SOON THEY ARE LIVING KOSOVA SOME WILL DYE SOME WILL GET SLOUGHTER ETC ETC SO THATS WAY YOU HATE US ALBANIAN HA HA HA HA SERBIA IS A SMALL COUNTRY NOW ESPECIALY BY THIS SUMMER WHEN MONTENEGRO IS GOING SO SERBIA WILL BE A SMALLEST COUNTRY IN EUROPE I LIKE IT THAT OUR TIME IS COMING TO MAKE FUN WITH SERBS I MEAN ALREADY HAS COME BUT MAYBE WILL WILL SEND YOU BACK TO INDIA WERE YOU COME FROM YOU FUCKING GYPSI WE ALBANIAN ARE ARIAN RACE FUCK SERB NATION SMELLY PEOPLE I AM STRSLJEN HA HA HA HA HA

FR		05-Apr-2006 21:58
Oh You stuped pig shiptar aljbanjac idi pravi bakLJav ajde I have a friend and he is a stepson of RANKOVIC do you remember him, if you not know who was RANKOVIC in tito's era, ask someone older you wanna be extreme shiptar piglet, ask your big fAT ugly shiptar-aLJBANAC smelly mama-pig RANKOVIC was a great man... Do you know ILIR that we serbs are such a good nation, we pitty you poor albanians cuz you are so stuped and dirty and uneducated and and an....

ILIR LIKA		05-Apr-2006 20:36
ON THE PAST MY DEAR ALBANAIN BROTHER WHAT HE SAID PJETER TOPLICA 28-Mar-2006 22:16 to serbs some facts what other said about serbs Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleberger said, "Serbs are not too bright." Richard Holbrooke said Serbs are "Murderous assholes," and in his new book says, "Serbs are evil." Senator Biden said Serbs are "Illiterates and degenerates." Congressman Obey said Serbs are "Pigs," and political cartoonists drew Serbs as pigs turning over outhouses. This is not just shocking racial stereotyping, this is unbridled hatred based on assigning collective guilt to 10 million Serbian people.

ILIR LIKA		05-Apr-2006 20:32
ON THE PAST WHAT I SAID Serbian-inhabited area of Kosova from the 12th to the 14th centuries. The northern part of Kosova, was covered by the fortresses and royal courts of the Albanian rulers and their nobility. During the rule of the Emperor Stefan Dusan (1346). Kosova itself was covered by a network of Albanian churches. Most of Kosova densely populated villages belonged to the big churches built between the roman empire, most often rulers' endowments, like Graqanica in Kosova near Pristina, Bogorodica Ljeviska in Prizren, Deqani in the vinicity of Peja or the St. Archangels near Prizren, among many others.. The Albanians, whom the Serbs called Arbanasi, were a cattle-breeding, nomadic people which unhinderedly raised its large herds on the dark mountains . There were no visible inter-ethnic divisions; the overlords from central Albania and Epirus were just as loyal to their Serbian ruler as were those of his native Rascia: the short-lived Serbian Empire of Stefan Dusan (1331-1355), which encompassed most of the Balkans, just as had Byzantium, had universalist pretensions.than during ruler Stefan Dusan (1331-1355) in Kosova they transformed some of our albanian catholic churches into monasteries like Graqanica,deqan,peja and some they bulid it so this is how you serbs made history of kosova (dardania)province of Illyria i mean province of ALBANIA at the time

ILIR LIKA		05-Apr-2006 20:27
ON THE PAST WHAT I SAID TO CHETNIKS there is no historical prove that the chetniks colonized the ancient Dardania in the VI or VII century. The Slavic theory, which the Serbian historians bring as a preferable argument to try the Serbian colonisation of Kosova in the beginning of early medievalism, has no value, because in the documentary sources they appear in this territory only in the beginning of the X century they were pagan. Also, the avowal that the cradle of Serbia is in Kosova is not true, because it is known that its initial territory was in Raska province, in Sanjak. Even, the occupation of Kosova from Serbia began at the end of XII century. Further more, the gothic Serbian kingdom did not have any constant capital. Prizren was one of the ambulant capitals of this state, which had the tendency to expand continuously by occupations towards the south, including the Greek lands, with aim of replacing the Byzantine Empire and to establish its capital finally in Costadinopoya. Nobody can prove that the Serbian rule in Kosova lasted more than three centuries. Except this, already many data’s are collected that confirm that during these centuries the Albanians were present in the historical territories of Kosova and that the pressure exercised from the Serbian state and church, in most of the cases, was realised only with the Slavication of the locations and the names of the inhabitants. There are even many cases, where if you remove the Slavic suffix, it will come out that they are Albanian inhabitants (for example Lek-ich, Pal-ich, Petr-ich, Gjon-ovsky, etc.) Even the Belgrade thesis that in the historic battle of Kosova, which occurred in year 1389 against the Turkish, only the Serbs participated, does not consist. There are many independent notifications, which prove that under the rows of the anti-ottoman coalition the Albanians fought in considerable masses

ILIR LIKA		05-Apr-2006 20:23
ON THE PAST WHAT I SAID to serbs may be very interesting SKENDERBEY SS (BALLISTAT) http://www.kosovo.com/skenderbeyss.html THIS WEBSITE I THINK CHETNIK DID IT WHATEVER THERE ARE BEAUTIFUL THINKS TO SEE ESPECIALY JURING SECOND WW2 WE KILL AROUND 40.000 SERBS IS LOVELY EVEN MY GRANDFATHER GOD BLES HIM HE IS DEAD NOW HE WAS TELLING ME HE WAS SKENDERBEY SS DIVISION HE KILL WITH HIS HANDS AND CUTING THROATS OF SERBS LIKE CHIKENS IN WW2 YOU SERBS THINK SOMEBODY LIKE YOU BUT NOBODY LIKE YOU EXEPT RUSSIA EVEN RUSSIAN THEY HATE NOW HA HA HA HA FUCK ALL SERBS NEXT WAR COMING AGAINST SERBS I AM GOING TO FUCK YOUR WIFE NOT SISTERS LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA AND CROATIA

ILIR LIKA		05-Apr-2006 20:19
REMIND IT AGAIN TO CHETNIKS WHAT I SAID ON THE PAST dont get angry with your coments about shqiptar of course i am shqiptar and i am not filthy cz i am more clean than any serb person serbs are the most filthy pigs you serbs still share bedrooms with pigs every serb face they look like pigs cz you dont have any thing else to eat in serbia exept pigs serb people the way they live like gypsis exept some serbs in belgrade and novi sad they got a good life but rest of serb nation are poor people albanian for serbs are like kings we have the best food in balkan we have the best land in the balkan we have sea side we have great mountains in kosova and albania we got kosova full of minerals in underground we have gold etc etc we have two sea JON SEA AND ADRIATIC SEA we have lake of in shkodra the bigest lake in balkan we have lake in ohrid we have hot summers in united albania we are arian race poor white race not gypsi race like serbs we got more friends in the world we have the most beautiful womens in balkan we got someny places for tourist in kosova like where is GRAQANICA there was battle of kosova 1389 run by serb prince llazar with around 200 hundred soldier but we have our prince to his name was MILOS KOPILIQI as you serbs all ways say MILOS KOPILIQI was serb but is not true MILOS KOPILIQI was albanian we have thousands albanian soldier in battle of kosova there wer even romanian soldier polish,hungarian,germans,slovaks.etc etc but there were more albanian than serbs or others yes prince lazar was like weslley clark but it dosent mean the americans bomb serbia but they bomb it even other countries and in 500 years later american to say oh our hero weslley clark and you serb mention prince lazar ha ha ha ha bull shit at list we got back our holly land albanian land KOSOVA back to albanians and we drive serbs out of KOSOVA like pigs ha ha haha serbia is getting smaller smaller smaller ha ha ha thius what happend to serbs now days is like a dream albanian people they had for many centuries but the dream come true SERBIA IS SMALL NOW AND POOR FUCK SERBS LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA

Henri		05-Apr-2006 15:52
Hello I'm Henri and I'm from Finland.Belgrade is a great city and i love it.Can't wait to go there again in the summer.Nice pics you got mate but propably something has changed now.I was in Beograd last time in march 2005.

Vlad		04-Apr-2006 18:40
FOR ORTHODOX BROTHER: I WAS SURE THAT WEREN'T REASONS OF TENSION. ALSO BECAUSE OUR RESPECTIVE MINORITIES HAVE MANY COMMON POINTS. ARE YOU FROM THE SERBIAN PART OF BANAT? DO YOU KNOW NEGOTIN, PANCEVO, VRSAC, SABAC?

Guest		04-Apr-2006 17:30
TAJ kao englez nije englez vec se siptari tako potpisuju..

Orthodox Brothers Unite		04-Apr-2006 17:13
Vlad, Of course I am a Serb, why do you think I put that article - to show you good relations of Serbia and Romania. I think Romanian people are treated OK in Serbia. We have no problemos with Romania and Romanian people who live in Serbia. How does a person with such right political opinion study Human Resorce Management? :) Roger, I think Northern Ireland should get independent, why don't you pull your forces out of there? I also think Scotland should get independence. You don't know shit and you should not discuss issues of other countries that you know so little about. Kosovo is between Kosovo Albanians and Serbia. Not even Albania - because Kosovo is not part of Albania. Is democracy in Kosovo forcing out most Serbian population, destroying 150 churches, also graveyards? That is your democracy, the democracy of Nato bombs. You call yourself civilized? You Brits occupied half the world and robbed India and other colonies. You bombed Iraq, Serbia, maybe Iran. YES, VERY CIVILIZED. I am sick of these people from the West who think they know everything. You know NOTHING.

Guest		04-Apr-2006 12:19
Its still KOSOVO not kosova :)

Guest		04-Apr-2006 10:24
I studied human resource management and later international relations. Currently working on my Ph. D.

Vlad		04-Apr-2006 09:51
I STUDI POLITICAL SCIENCE IN CLUJ NAPOCA. AND YOU?

Vlad		04-Apr-2006 09:49
FOR ORTHODOX BROTHER UNITED, I RED WITH GREAT INTEREST THAT ARTICLE, AND IS A GOOD THING THAT YOU ALSO HOW I DO, ARE INTEREST ABOUT HISTORY OF RESPECTIVE COUNTRIES. I KNEW CERTAINLY OUR HISTORICAL RELATIONS AND YOU KNOW WELL LIKE ME THAT OUR COMPATRIOTS WHO LIVE IN ROMANIA ARE TREATED WELL. THEY ARE VERY WELL INTEGRATED AND I DON'T KNOW PERSONALLY PROBLEMS BETWEEN US. IN ROMANIA ARE ALSO MANY SERBS WHO WERE RECEIVED LIKE BROTHERS UNDER NATO'S STRIKES, BECAUSE IF OUR GOVERNAMENT OF THAT PERIOD SUPPORTED NATO'S STRIKES, OUR PEOPLE WAS VERY SAD FOR IT.OUR NATIONALIST PARTIES PROTEST VERY MUCH AGAINST NATO'S STRIKE ON A BORDER ORTHODOX COUNTRY, AND I REMEMBER THAT IN THAT TERRIBLE DAYS, MANY SERBS CROSSED THE BORDER OF "PORTILE DE FIER" FOR SAVED BY NATO'S STRIKE. IN OUR TV NEWS, IN MANY INTERVIEW DONE TO THEM , THEY DECLARED THAT THEIR INDUSTRIES WERE THEY WORKED A LIFE WERE DESTROYED AND THAT THEY WERE GRATEFUL TO ROMANIA WHO RECEIVED THEM. I WAS VERY SAD TO LISTEN THAT HISTORIES, AND I WAS GLAD THAT WE HELPED THEM HOW OUR HISTORICAL FRIENDS. BUT SOMEBODY, SAY IN GENERAL ALSO IN MY UNIVERSITY THAT OUR COMPATRIOTS OF SERBIA AREN'T TTREATED WELL LIKE WE TREAT SERB OF ROMANIA. CERTAINLY ARE ONLY VOICES, AND I ALSO IN FIRST TIME DON'T BELIEVE IT, BECAUSE AREN'T REASONS TO BE TRUTH. I ASKED ME WHY CAN BE POSSIBLE IT? I KNEW THAT WE HAVEN'T BORDER REVENDICATIONS AND THAT DIFFERENT THAN HUNGARIANS OF VOJVODINA, OUR MINORITY IN SERBIA WAS THE ONLY WHO HAD GOOD RELATIONS WITH SERBS. PROBABILY THAT VOICES WERE ONLY FALSE AND WITHOUT REASON. THAT'S MY HOPE. ARE YOU SERB? SEE YOU AS SOON

TO VLAD		04-Apr-2006 09:29
What do you study at the university?

Orthodox Brothers Unite		04-Apr-2006 06:13
Vlad, There are many things which can be told about the historical links between Serbia and Romania, especially from the dynastic point of view. Two of the brothers of Milosh the Great died and were buried in Walachia. Mary Obrenovich (1831 +1879), mother of Milan, the first King of Serbia, belonged to an ancient Moldavian family (Catargiu), and the King himself was born in Iasi. King Milan’s wife Natalia (1859 +1941) was born in Bassarabia, having as mother a princess Sturdza, from another ancient Moldavian family. A much recent connection is the marriage between King Alexander of Yugoslavia and Princess Marie (Mignon) of Romania (*1900 +1961). It is important to underline the fact that Serbia always found in Romania an ally and a friend, thing which is demonstrated by dynastic connections. To read the entire text: http://www.czipm.org/tudor.html

GENT MORINA		04-Apr-2006 01:12
JA U QIFSHA NANEN NE PIDH RAC E FLLIQT JENI JU SHKIT NA KA ARDH DITA ME JA U QI NANEN NE PIDH JU KENA LARGUE PREJ KOSOVES SIKUR MUTA RRNOFT SHQIPNIA E MADHE

KASTRIOT GERGURI		04-Apr-2006 00:21
TO CHETNIKS READ IT http://www.imtekmotion.com/shadex/albanian_history.htm

ILIR LIKA		03-Apr-2006 23:54
TO GUEST ha ha ha so you are angry now ha ha ha welcome back to forum mr alex i dont get angry with your coments about shqiptar of course i am shqiptar and i am not filthy cz i am more clean than any serb person serbs are the most filthy pigs you serbs still share bedrooms with pigs every serb face they look like pigs cz you dont have any thing else to eat in serbia exept pigs serb people the way they live like gypsis exept some serbs in belgrade and novi sad they got a good life but rest of serb nation are poor people albanian for serbs are like kings we have the best food in balkan we have the best land in the balkan we have sea side we have great mountains in kosova and albania we got kosova full of minerals in underground we have gold etc etc we have two sea JON SEA AND ADRIATIC SEA we have lake of in shkodra the bigest lake in balkan we have lake in ohrid we have hot summers in united albania we are arian race poor white race not gypsi race like serbs we got more friends in the world we have the most beautiful womens in balkan we got someny places for tourist in kosova like where is GRAQANICA there was battle of kosova 1389 run by serb prince llazar with around 200 hundred soldier but we have our prince to his name was MILOS KOPILIQI as you serbs all ways say MILOS KOPILIQI was serb but is not true MILOS KOPILIQI was albanian we have thousands albanian soldier in battle of kosova there wer even romanian soldier polish,hungarian,germans,slovaks.etc etc but there were more albanian than serbs or others yes prince lazar was like weslley clark but it dosent mean the americans bomb serbia but they bomb it even other countries and in 500 years later american to say oh our hero weslley clark and you serb mention prince lazar ha ha ha ha bull shit at list we got back our holly land albanian land KOSOVA back to albanians and we drive serbs out of KOSOVA like pigs ha ha haha serbia is getting smaller smaller smaller ha ha ha thius what happend to serbs now days is like a dream albanian people they had for many centuries but the dream come true SERBIA IS SMALL NOW AND POOR FUCK SERBS LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA

Guest		03-Apr-2006 21:53
Roger Roland from UK 03-Apr-2006 20:45 I think that Kosova should become independent and democratic because the way serbians have treated non Serbs is exactly the way Hitler treated non Germans.I think they should get independence as soon as possible. My Albanian friends who have suffered the pain and I will be there to celebrate in a free, democratic Kosova Roger Roland 03-Apr-2006 20:35 I once had a good Serb freind who swore to me that Serbia would never let Kosovo go. "That is our land and the Serbs will fight to the very end before some international force takes it from us", he would say. To be honest with you I have little experience or knowledge of Kosovo. And, I really don't believe what my friend was saying to be true. He was simply venting some built frustration. I did, though, here stuff like this often in the Srpska Republika about Kosovo This was wrote by a stuped albanian shiptar, oh I'm sorry all albanians are stuped and poor or else they sell drugs and manage prostitutes. FILTHY MUSLIM SCUM

Guest		03-Apr-2006 21:51
ILIR LIKA 03-Apr-2006 20:15 to guest croats to serbs are like a god croats juring the war they fuck serb nation they sloughter serbs in croatia like pigs they fuck your sister pussy and ass they kill you like animals croats they all ways fuck serb nation one way or other way serbs are looser not croats they took serb teritories with one day war ha ha ha in kraijna they fuck serb army within 48 hours ha ha ha croats are brave people croats they got the most beautiful country in the world croats they got the best fotball team in europe they play good i am supporter of croat team in fotball croats they are best in basketball croats are the most beautiful people croat womens they are so beautiful girls they are like princeses croats they got their country the best place for holiday in europe even better than spain what chetniks they got? nothing!!!!!! they got only danube they got to many pigs they eat shit food they are poor they are ugly people serb women they are smelly women they dont have any place for tourists exept kopaunik in south of serbia even this place belong to albania serbs they dont have sea serbs they dont have nothing exept shit and eat a shit you fucking chetniks cz all serbs they smell like shit death to serb nation Nobody will argue about your stupid comparison between Serbs and Croats, THE THING IS maybe croats have in some way more than serbs, or serbs have more than croats, BUT YOU FILTHY SHIPTAR HAVE NOTHING UNDERSTAND, YOU DONT HAVE NOTHING! Your filthy shit country albania is set on 2 seas and still itd PIG LAND FILTHY GROSE ALBANIA. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAME BEING ALBANIAN FILTHY ANIMAL

ILIR LIKA		03-Apr-2006 21:01
HI ROGER THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT KOSOVA I WILL INVITE YOU FOR A PARTY IF YOU WANT TO COME AT KOSOVA THIS YEAR TO CELEBRATE INDEPEDENCE OF KOSOVA THAN THE BIGEST PARTY AGAIN IT WILL BE IN COMING YEARS WHEN KOSOVA WILL JOING UNINON WITH ALABNIA I MEAN UNITED ALBANA THIS IT WILL BE THE GREATEST PARTY THANKS FOR YOUR COMENT PLS TELL TO SERBS PIGS THEY ARE PIGS HA HA HA

Roger Roland from UK		03-Apr-2006 20:45
I think that Kosova should become independent and democratic because the way serbians have treated non Serbs is exactly the way Hitler treated non Germans.I think they should get independence as soon as possible. My Albanian friends who have suffered the pain and I will be there to celebrate in a free, democratic Kosova

Roger Roland		03-Apr-2006 20:35
I once had a good Serb freind who swore to me that Serbia would never let Kosovo go. "That is our land and the Serbs will fight to the very end before some international force takes it from us", he would say. To be honest with you I have little experience or knowledge of Kosovo. And, I really don't believe what my friend was saying to be true. He was simply venting some built frustration. I did, though, here stuff like this often in the Srpska Republika about Kosovo

ILIR LIKA		03-Apr-2006 20:15
to guest croats to serbs are like a god croats juring the war they fuck serb nation they sloughter serbs in croatia like pigs they fuck your sister pussy and ass they kill you like animals croats they all ways fuck serb nation one way or other way serbs are looser not croats they took serb teritories with one day war ha ha ha in kraijna they fuck serb army within 48 hours ha ha ha croats are brave people croats they got the most beautiful country in the world croats they got the best fotball team in europe they play good i am supporter of croat team in fotball croats they are best in basketball croats are the most beautiful people croat womens they are so beautiful girls they are like princeses croats they got their country the best place for holiday in europe even better than spain what chetniks they got? nothing!!!!!! they got only danube they got to many pigs they eat shit food they are poor they are ugly people serb women they are smelly women they dont have any place for tourists exept kopaunik in south of serbia even this place belong to albania serbs they dont have sea serbs they dont have nothing exept shit and eat a shit you fucking chetniks cz all serbs they smell like shit death to serb nation

Guest		03-Apr-2006 16:46
Hrvati su najvece pizde na svetu, najveci gmizavci, najvece prodane duse, najveci beskicmenjaci na planeti. DANKE DEUTSCHLAND. HAHAHAHAHA CROATIANS ARE THE BIGGEST LOOSERS - ALWAYS ON THE WRONG SIDE AND ALWAYS LOOSERS. HAHAHAHA

Vlad		02-Apr-2006 22:11
ANTE, I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR ADMIRATION FOR US. AND FOR THIS SUMMER WE CAN SPEAK LATER, BECAUSE IT WILL COME AFTER TWO MONTHS. FOR NOW I MUST FINISH MINE LAST EXAMES AT UNIVERSITY, ARE YOU ALSO AN UNIVERSITARY STUDENT? CERTAINLY I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR RELATIONS WITH SERBS, EVERYONE REASON WITH HIS MIND, IF YOU HATE THEM SO MUCH, IS EVIDENT THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO CONSIDER THAT POINT AGAIN. ABOUT MINORITIES: I DON'T KNOW HOW ROMANIANS OF SERBIA LIVE IN THE SERB PART OF BANAT, I CAN SAY YOU ONLY HOW SERBS LIVE IN ROMANIAN PART OF BANAT: THEY LIVE IN HARMONY WITH US AND RESPECT OUR SOVEREIGNTY, THEY HAVE THEIR SCHOOLS AND WE AREN'T PROBELMS WITH THEM, IF THEY ARE MEN OF HONOUR AS I HOPE CERTAINLY THEY TREAT ROMANIANS OF SERBIA IN THE SAME KIND, ALSO BECAUSE I DON'T SEE A REASON FOR ENEMIES RELATIONS BETWEEN US. IF THEY HATE US HOW YOU SAID, THIS MEANING THAT THEY ARE AS YOU SAID, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T REASONS FOR HATE US. TIMISOARA IS FULL OF SERBS WHO IF DON'T SPEAK SERBIAN SEEMS ROMANIAN, DIFFERENT TO HUNGARIANS WHO ARE A PEOPLE OF SHIT, SERBS OF ROMANIA SPEAK VERY WELL ROMANIAN. THEREFORE I BELIEVE THAT IF THEY TREAT OUR MINORITY IN SERBIA THEY ARE UNGRATEFULS, EVER IF THAT'S TRUE. IN EVERY CASE I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE A RIGHT RADICAL AND THEREFORE I WILL GLAD THIS SUMMER TO RECEIVE YOU AND ANTOHER CROATIANS KAMERATEN IN ROMANIA, AND I WILL GLAD TO PRESENT YOU MINE ROMANIAN KAMERATE. IN TIMISOARA ARE VERY MUCH PLACE OF ENJOYMENTS AND WE CAN SHOW YOU ALL THE BEAUTIFUL PLACES OF OUR MOTHERLAND. ONLY A THING: I ASK YOU TO SPEAK ALL IN ENGLISH, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW SERBO-CROATIAN LANGUAGE. CERTAINLY THE SAME THING I ASK TO GUEST. ALSO BECAUSE THESE POINTS CAN BE SHOWED ALSO TO ANOTHERS. FOR EXAMPLE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S MEANING "SRBIJU SMRT" OR "ZIVILA HRVATSKA". CHEERS AND THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR FRIENDSHIP. TO ILIR: I WAS SURPRISE TO SEE ALBANIN ORTHODOX, I KNEW THAT THEY ARE ONLY ISLAMMICS.

Milan		02-Apr-2006 21:54
http://www.fdimagazine.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/1543/EUROPEAN_CITIES___REGIONS_OF_THE_FUTURE_2006_07.html EUROPEAN CITIES OF THE FUTURE 2006/07 February 06, 2006 The votes for the first round of the European Cities and Regions of the Future 2006/07 have been counted. Charles Piggott reports on the locations that scored highest in the 28 individual criteria across the seven main categories. SOUTHERN EUROPE/SOUTH-EAST CENTRAL EUROPE: Winner: Belgrade, Serbia Serbia’s economy grew at 8.6% in 2004 and GDP growth is expected to exceed 6% in 2005. Total investment in Serbia in 2005 is estimated to be €1.65bn and significant recent investors include Italy’s Banca Intesa, US company Ball Packaging and Germany’s Metro Cash & Carry. Metro’s facility in Belgrade was the largest greenfield investment in south-east Europe in 2004. In addition, Microsoft has established its first software development centre in south-east Europe in Belgrade.

Guest		02-Apr-2006 19:16
I'm not Alex, and you are again just a stuped shiptar

ILIR LIKA		02-Apr-2006 18:22
HA HA HA ALEX ARE YOU BACK AGAIN FORUM HE SAID Guest 02-Apr-2006 18:15 Ilir Iika Ante was wright in one point you are inferior, uneducated - PIGS. So fuck off no body wants you shiptar I DONT CARE WHAT ANTE SAID OK ALEX, I LIKE CROATS AND I LIKE USTASE LONG LIVE CROATIA AND UNITED ALBANIA

ILIR LIKA		02-Apr-2006 18:18
Ante 01-Apr-2006 20:06 Samo mrtav srb je dobar srb I AGREE WITH ANTE BRAVO BRAVO DEAD SERB IS A GOOD SERB

Guest		02-Apr-2006 18:15
Ilir Iika Ante was wright in one point you are inferior, uneducated - PIGS. So fuck off no body wants you shiptar

Guest		02-Apr-2006 18:12
Ante dokazali ste koliko ste jaki, sve ste gubili dok se niste uslihtali amerima i nemcima, cak ste i pesmu napravili DANKE DEUTSCHLAND, BOLJE bi ti bilo ante da se setis bleiburga i vukovara, a ovo poslednje su dobili ameri a ne vi. Vi ste stoka PROVINCIJSKA.

ILIR LIKA		02-Apr-2006 18:12
to ANTE IF YOU ARE A CROAT GOOD CZ I LIKA CROATIAN I DONT HATE THEM IF YOU ARE A SERB(CHETNIK) TA QIFSHA NANEN NE PIDH ,MOTREN TA QIFSHA CROATIAN NATION THEY ARE EDUCATED PEOPLE AND BRAVE PEOPLE THEY ARE REAL CHRISTIAN THEY WORK HARD THEY HAVE A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY ,I THINK CROATIA IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD FOR EUROPE CROATIA IS LIKE A PARADISE CROATIAN PEOPLE THEY ARE GOOD FIGHTER THEY PROVED IN SECOND WW2 AND MANY WARS SO DONT MES WITH CROATIAN PEOPLE THEY ARE TOUGH PEOPLE THATS WAY I LIKE THEM AND ALL ALBANIAN NATION THEY LIKE CROATS JURING YUGOSLAVIA CROATIA WAS MOST DEVELOPED REPUBLIC MOST INTELEGENTS PEOPLE THEY RUN POLITICS IN SFRJ THEY HAVE BEEN CROATIANS, THE BEST PART IN SFRJ FOR TOURISM WAS CROATIA ETC ETC "IN SERBIA WAS ONLY BELGRADE THATS ALL REST OF SERBIA THEY LIVE LIKE PIGS THEY EVEN LOOK LIKE PIGS" MONTENEGRO I CANT SAY ANYTHING CZ THEY GOT COAST OF ADRIATC THEY HAVE BETTER LIFE THAN SERBS ESPECIALY IN FEW MONTH TIME EVEN MONTENEGRO IS GOING AWAY FROM SERBIA SO SERBIA HAS GOT ONLY DANUB NOW LET THEM HAVE HOLIDAY IN DANUB CZ THEY ARE PIGS NOW SERBS TO GO IN HOLIDAY THEY HAVE TO GO TO CROATIA ,MONTENEGRO, GREAT ALBANIA WHEN THEY WILL COME TO ADRIATIC COAST WE WILL CHARGE THEM MORE THAN ANYBODY AND WE WILL FUCK THEIR DOUGHTER ,WIFE HA HA HA SO MR ANTE YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING BUT IN GENERAL CROATS I CAN SAY 99.5% THEY LIKE ALBANIAN EXEPT SOME OF THEM THEY ARE MIX WITH CHETNIKS BUT REAL CROATS I KNOW THEM I GOT MANY CROATS FRIENDS SO ANTE TA QIFSHA MOTREN LONG LIVE CROATIA AND UNITED ALBANIA

Ante		02-Apr-2006 15:27
To Vlad: Brate, I'll give you very soon some ustashe's web sites. Your web sites are wonderful, I like very much the march for the anniversary of the death od Codreanu the foundator of Iron Guard. I'm sure that you also like our glorious commander Dr.Ante Pavelic who was your alliate. I can't understand why you ask me anymore to find a peace with serbian pigs who are a people that I consider saad, poor and loser. Please, listen me anymore, don't believe that they are your friends. They're only a complexed people who has only enemies. We gave them a right lesson and now that they know our power and our violence in war, they try to not have more war with us, how they showed in Kraijna. When our great Ante Gotovina with the freedom day of oluja operation free Knin, Beograd remain to see without to defend their brothers. Therefore they're only a people of cowards and bufoons who pay they mistakes. But now I pray you to don't speak anymore about serbs, if Ii continue to give them consideration, my ustashe kameraten will massacre me. They not exist in our mind. They are only a dark point in our east border. Now, you asked me if I'm from Zagreb. Yes, I'm from the croatian's capitol, who are the most beautiful city of former Ju.......I don't write that name. Please, forget serbs, I'm not sure that romanian of serbia have rights like serbs of Romania who are a West civil country, who certainly treat them with civil law. But They understand only a language: violence. If you treat them with peace they will do you bad things. They're the most unheducated, coward and uncivilized people, leave them and speak with MEN like us and your. We had many common points and alliance of pasts, so we are your kameraten. To Ilir: generally I hate albanians for their inferiority. In my opinion they are unheducated and uncivilized as serbs, but is good that you also hate serbs. SRBIJU SMRT! ZIVILA HRVATSKA! Crna Legija

ILIR LIKA		02-Apr-2006 03:04
TO VLAD http://english.shqiptarortodoks.com/links/index.html

Ante		01-Apr-2006 20:06
Samo mrtav srb je dobar srb

Guest		01-Apr-2006 20:03
You albanians are ... no word for it

Guest		01-Apr-2006 20:02
KASTRIOT GERGURI maybe you can explain why are all albanians stuper?! You are a very stuped man also, you should read something about the people that build that churches and monasteries, and YOU SHOULD READ the fact, how many albanians lived in kosovo in the early XIX and XX century. Poor shiptars

KASTRIOT GERGURI		01-Apr-2006 19:20
TO CHETNIKS Forgot to remind you: Serbia has killed tens of thousands of Albanians since 1878, 1912, 1918, 1933, 1945, 1981, 1989, 1998-99. They have at least twice expelled half of the Kosovo population to Turkey. They tried to do the same in 1999, by expelling 1,2 million. They have burned down 120,000 Albanian houses in 1999. They have done the same repeatidly in the past century. They have never appologized and they heil their criminals as heroes. They dare to call Albanians terrorists, when terror is in Serbian blood. Rmember, the biggest terrorist attack, killing of Austrian prince in Sarajevo? Damn! We've suffered too much under those monsters! Appologize, monsters, appologize!

KASTRIOT GERGURI		01-Apr-2006 19:18
to chetniks Serbs have no idea what concessions Albanians have done to the Serbs in Kosova. They say that Albanians will revenge, only because they think its common sense. Dear Chetnicks, Albanians have paid for all the houses that the mob destroyed in 2004 and is paying to rebuild the damaged religious heritage. The religious heritage in Kosovo was protected by the Albanians throughout the Ottoman times. Albanians identify with them, because they built them. The orthodox heritage in Kosova is unique because it is half eastern-half western architecture. Serbs brought the eastern, and Albanian Catholics brought the Western elements. The criminal Serbian Orthodox church, who has throughout hidden criminals and supported killing of civilians, now claims them. Poor Serbs, their Church will keep them in the middle ages for life. See what's happening in Greece. While Albanians are secular and can easily be integrated in the European mainstream, I believe Serbs are hopeless.

Guest		01-Apr-2006 19:04
GRANATE NA HRVATE

Guest		01-Apr-2006 19:02
@Ante daj ne seri bre degenu provincijski, zivite bre jadno ne mozete kraj sa krajem da skupite, jebu vas slovenci kako stignu, bednici hrvatski, mozda ce padati bomba na Beograd ali nikada Hrvatska, za razliku srpske su bombe po hrvatskoj padale, a to je tvoja bedna proslost, srbi te bombardovali :) Nas je BAREM nato pakt. E seljoberu hrvatski ceo narod ti slusa srpske narodnjake i cecu ciji je muz harao po toj tvojoj kifla drzavici, poserem ti se kevi u usta i nabijem nogom da joj stane jos - degeneriku maloumni.

Vlad		01-Apr-2006 18:25
ILIR, HOW LISTEN YOU BY SERBS AGAINST US? IF THIS IS TRUE, CERTAINLY IS A BAD THING BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T REASONS TO HATE US. IN ROMANIAN BANAT ARE MANY SERBS AND THEY ARE ACCEPTED AND LIVE IN PEACE AND HARMONY WITH US, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IN SERBIAN BANAT IS THE SAME SITUATION. CAN YOU SPECIFY THEIR COMMENTS ABOUT US? CHEERS

ILIR LIKA		01-Apr-2006 18:11
TO VLAD you mention often those orthodox churches in kosova they been burn down by huligans come on VLAD you think i like my self this of course not and 95%of albanians they are against those people who did burn down those churches cz we have albanian orthodox to so my self i am not against orthodox religion is a nice religion to roman chatholic is nice religion to so who ever burn orthodoks chuches i wish him a hell to next life cz those churches are god houses and i my self respect orthodox religion especialy orthodox churches are nice inside and out the art of those churches are so nice yes i fell sorry about those churches but i hate serbs and croats hate serbs germans hate serbs americans hate serbs english hate serbs bulgarian hate serbs hungarians hate serbs even romanian hate serbs exept russian they like serbs . VLAD you dont know how serbs talk about romanians they talk about you like all of you are gypsi serbs they dont like romanians trust me my friend i know my self cz i heard stories from serbs what they say about romanians serb nation think about romanian nation like english people think about african so think little bit yes albanian all ways they like romanian cz we are close with blod and we are cousins your race is and our race is same race serbs are gypsi race remember that LONG LIVE ROMANIA AND GREAT ALBANIA death to chetniks

ILIR LIKA		01-Apr-2006 17:53
ANTE ANTE YOU SUPRISE ME ,WE ALBANIAN ARE ARIAN RACE AND DALMATIANS HALF OF CROATS ARE SLAV ORIGIN MAYBE YOU ARE ONE OF THEM ANYWAY,I AM NOT ALBANIAN DONKEY BUT I AM ALBANIAN AND YOU SHOULD REMEMBER PLENTY ALBANIAN FOUGHT IN CROATIA WAR AGAINST SERBS(CHETNIKS) AND WE LIKE CROATIAN PEOPLE I LIKE MY SELF WHAT EVER YOU SAY TO ME I DONT CARE YOU FUCKING IDIOT MAJKU TI JEBEM YOU ARE ONE OF CROATS MIX WITH CHETNIKS MAYBE YOUR MOTHER SHE IS A SERB BITCH AND YOUR FATHER IS CROATIAN OR MAYBE YOUR MOTHER SHE IS CROATIAN BITCH AND YOUR FATHER IS CHETNIK SO FACK YOU AND FUCK YOUR FAMILY OR BRING YOUR SISTER TO ME AND I FUCK HER IN HER PUSSY VERY HARD MY COCK IS LIKE DONKEY COCK HA HA HA LONG LIVE CROATIA LONG LIVE USTASE I LIKE USTASE I LIKE CROATS THEY ARE MY BROTHERS WHAT EVER YOU SAY WHO GIVE A SHIT FUCK OFF MOTHER FUCKER COME ON I GIVE TO YOU SOME BOREKS TO EAT YOU FUCKING JUNKY LONG LIVE CROATIA AND GREAT ALBANIA DEATH TO CHETNIKS

Vlad		01-Apr-2006 16:34
ALEX, WHY YOU WANT TO LEAVE THIS FORUM? I0'M SORRY IF YOU GO AWAY ALSO BECAUSE WE HAD GOOD DIALOGUE . I HOPE THAT YOU WILL GO BACK QUICKLY. TO ANTE: I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE FRIENDSHIP THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE WITH ME, AND I'M ALSO GLAD THAT YOU ARE A RIGHT RADICAL. IN EVERY CASE IN MY OPINION YOU COMMIT A GREAT MISTAKE TO HATE SERBS BECAUSE IT'S MEANING THAT YOU HATE YOUR BLOOD-BROTHERS. AS I SAID BEFORE YOU ARE THE SAME PEOPLE, WITH SAME LANGUAGE, SAME ETHINC SLAVIC GROUP. THEREFORE I SAY YOU AGAIN TO UNDERSTAND THAT AREN'T SERBS YOUR ENEMIES, AND IN THIS TIME WHEN EUROPE IS UNITED ALSO IN THE PLAIN OF RIGHT RADICAL, WE MUST MARCH UNITED FOR A BETTER FUTUR AND FOR DEVELOPE OUR COMMON EUROPEAN VALOURS WHO ARE PATRIOTTISM, PRIDE AND CHRISTIANITY. I INVITE YOU TO REFLECT ANYMORE ON THIS POINT. FOR THIS SUMMER, I'M GLAD TO COME IN CROATIA AND TO RECEIVE YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS IN ROMANIA, MAMAIA IS A WONDERFUL TOWN IN BLACK SEA, WAS RESTRUCTURATED LAST TWO YEARS AND NOW IS KNOWN LIKE THE BARCELONA OF BLACK SEA: THERE ARE LUXUOUS HOTELS, DISCO, AND MANY OTHERS PLACE OF ENJOYMENT, SEE THE PICS IN GOOGLE AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND. YOU SAID THAT ZAGREB IS BETTER THAN BELGRADE? WHY THIS COMPARATION WITH TWO SISTER CAPITOLS? ZAGREB IS CERTAINLY VERY BEAUTIFUL BUT WHY YOU WANT TO OFFEND BELGRADE? IN EVERY CASE IT WAS ALSO YOUR FORMER CAPITOL AND THERE ARE CERTAINLY YET MANY CROATIANS, LIKE I'M SURE THAT IN ZAGREB ARE MANY SERBS. COME ON KAMERATEN, BEGIN TO CONSIDER ALSO SERBS OUR BROTHERS, WE MUST MARCH TOGETHER FRO A STRONG, PROUD AND CHRISTIAN EUROPE OF THE PEOPLES AND COUNTRIES. AREN'T SERBS YOUR ENEMIES, YOUR AND OUR ENEMIES ARE ISLAMICS, AMERICANS AND JEWISH LOBBIES WHO WANTO TO EAT OUR COUNTRIES! AND IF WE WILL BE DIVIDED FOR EVER YOU CAN BE SURE THAT QUICKLY, ARABS, TURKS, AMERICANS AND JEWISH LOBBIES WILL EAT OUR COUNTRIES. REFLECT MY FRIEND! AND IF YOU ARE CHRISTIAN LIKE YOU SAID, I HOPE THAT YOU ALSO ARE LIKE ME ANGRY FOR THE DISTRUCTION OF SERB MONASTERIES IN KOSOVO. COME ON BROTHER, I WAIT QUICKLY YOUR ANSWER.

Ante		01-Apr-2006 14:46
To Vlad, Brate (brother), isn't true that we hate othodox, i personally love orthodox culture, and I haven't reason to hate christians like me also if they're othodox or protestant. I hate moslems and jewishes. I and my ustasa brother wait you here with friendly, and also we hope to be received there in Romania with the same spirit. Why you like serbs? You can't ask me to love them because I consider only a way of relations with serbs, to fuck them. To Alex and Guest: of course you're very very happy to see a consideration by a croat after 15 years, I say you that we don't care about you, you're aonly a dark point in our east border, here aren't indications to serbia and I poersonally want to cancel it by our map. I'm sorry for you, but the truth is that i have a wage of 800 euros and you live with your miserable wages in your miserable country full of never. I didn't speak with you I spoke only with my kameraten Vlad who I'm sure that knoe that we are their traditional friends, not you. ZIVILA HRVATSKA! PAST CE BOMBA NA BEOGRAD! SRBE NA VRBE! ALEXU SMRT! Remeber we aren't bufoons like chetnoks who are good only to sing, we are thirsty of blood. Ustasa are rebels, ustasa are style of life. Listen brate Vlad: serbs are the most unheducated people of the world with albanians, you want to degrade yourself to speak with these non-aryan and inferior races? Forget Belgrade, come here to see beatiful things like in your country. Come here to see our modern life-style different that primitive serbia. Belgrade has never, while Zagreb is wonderful. If you come here with another your kameraten we will enjoy very well together with a cultural and friendly exchange and with a great holyday in Dalmacija. Poor serbs who have only Crna Gora and after two months not. Of course, you must do in Romania the same when we will come there. What abou Mamaia? TO ILIR: LISTEN ALBANIAN DONKEY, I HAVE NEVER TO DISCUTE WITH AN INFERIOR LIKE YOU! WE ARE ARYAN AND WE SPEAK WITH ARYAN LIKE VLAD NOT WITH YOU OR SERBS!! DON'T SPEAK WITH ME OR I'LL COME THERE WITH MY USTASA COMRADES TO KILL YOU. WE AREN'T BUFOONS LIKE SERBS WE REASON WITH PISTOLS AND BLOOD! nek se sloze grla beatska zivila hrvatska! Hrvatskom se opet ori, pjesma nasih velikana, u njoj vjeccnom vatrom gori Slava zrinskih Frankopana! POOR SERBS, VERY VERY SAD, I BELOVE THAT YOU CANGHED IN THESE YEARS BUT I SEE THAT YOU'RE SAD LIKE THE PAST. WITHOUT US, CERTAINLY YOU ARE NEVER, YOU SEEMS WITH YOUR COUNTRY: "NEVER"! CRNA LEGIJA

ILIR LIKA		01-Apr-2006 06:35
TO CHETNIKS FROM ISA BOLETINI 01 When spring comes, we will manure the plains of Kosovo with the bones of Serbs… -Isa Boletini, Kosovar political leader, 1913 TO CHETNIKS 02 A Knife in the Heart of Great Albania- a Warning to the World by Albanian Patriot MIC SOKOLI The ancient cradle, heartland and centre of the Albanian nation, culture and religion is the region of Great Albania known as Kosova Kosovo is the location of the most ancient, venerable and beloved monuments of the Albanian historic, ethnic , heritage.

ILIR LIKA		01-Apr-2006 06:03
SOME FACTS FROM NEWSPAPER AND TV GERMAN SOLDIER SAID "I was at dinner with a kind albanian family in kosova the other night when talk turned to the German NATO troops that rolled into town to make the city the headquarters of its peacekeeping district. The patriarch of the family, a man old enough to remember the last time German troops rolled into Prizren, said they all felt safe now. 'The German soldiers are excellent,' he said. Then he added, 'I should know, I used to be one.' Then he raised his arm in a Nazi salute and said, 'Heil,' and laughed merrily. (NBC, June 18, 1999)

ILIR LIKA		01-Apr-2006 05:44
to serbs may be very interesting SKENDERBEY SS (BALLISTAT) http://www.kosovo.com/skenderbeyss.html THIS WEBSITE I THINK CHETNIK DID IT WHATEVER THERE ARE BEAUTIFUL THINKS TO SEE ESPECIALY JURING SECOND WW2 WE KILL AROUND 40.000 SERBS IS LOVELY EVEN MY GRANDFATHER GOD BLES HIM HE IS DEAD NOW HE WAS TELLING ME HE WAS SKENDERBEY SS DIVISION HE KILL WITH HIS HANDS AND CUTING THROATS OF SERBS LIKE CHIKENS IN WW2 YOU SERBS THINK SOMEBODY LIKE YOU BUT NOBODY LIKE YOU EXEPT RUSSIA EVEN RUSSIAN THEY HATE NOW HA HA HA HA FUCK ALL SERBS NEXT WAR COMING AGAINST SERBS I AM GOING TO FUCK YOUR WIFE NOT SISTERS LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA AND CROATIA

ILIR LIKA		01-Apr-2006 05:30
Goodbye Vlad, goodbye Lee and I guess I can also say goodbye Tirana. You will not be hearing from me again. Even if someone maybe signs my name it will not be me. I wish the people of the Balkans all good luck. We will need it. from ALEX## WHO CARES YOU ARE LEAVING THIS FORUM YOU FUCKING FILTHY CHETNIK ALL YOU CHETNIKS SHOULD LEAVE THIS FORUM LET THIS FORUM BE ONLY FOR ALBANIAN AND CROATS DUCK OFF ALEX GO AND FUCK YOUR MOTHER OR SISTER OR MAYBE YOU WILL COME AGAIN IN THIS FORUM WITH DIFERENT NAME YOU MOTHER FUCKER HA HA HA ALL SERBS THEY LEFT KRAINA AND KOSOVA NOW WE ARE MAKING YOU SERBS TO LEAVE EVEN THIS FORUM THANKS ANTE WE ARE MAKING SERBS ANGRY CZ THEY LOST WAR TO GUEST CROATS AND ALBANIAN THEY FIGHT SIDE BY SIDE AGAINST SERBS JURING THE WAR IN CROATIA THEY FUCK YOUR SISITER IN CROATIA HARD AND HARD SO CROATS THEY FUCK SERBS HISTORICALY ALL THE TIME NOW WE ALBANIAN WE ARE FUCKING YOUR SISTER AND GETING INDEPEDENT COUNTRY AND LATER UNITED ALBANIA HA HA HA SERBIA DAY BY DAY IS GETING SMALLER MONTENEGRO IS GOING THIS YEAR TO HEY YOU SERBS DO YOU WANT JOB IN KOSOVA TO WORK AS A TOILET CLEANER CZ WE NEED YOU TO COME AND WORK FOR US IN KOSOVA CZ SERBS ARE GYPSI ORIGINE QAO

Alex Belgrade		31-Mar-2006 22:06
I am leaving this forum. I have given arguments, tried to be constructive, tried to make peace, but there are too many idiots here. It's a pity that this lovely gallery of Belgrade was ruined by Albanians and Croatians. I hope they all go to hell. Goodbye Vlad, goodbye Lee and I guess I can also say goodbye Tirana. You will not be hearing from me again. Even if someone maybe signs my name it will not be me. I wish the people of the Balkans all good luck. We will need it. To all the Greeks, thanks for everything and thanks to Elias for this wonderful gallery. Please get it moderated and clean out the trash. Bye.

Guest		31-Mar-2006 20:40
@Vlad I'll translate you, I said romanians are also orthodox cristian, croatians hate orthodox people, so I dont see the point. @Ilir Lika Croatians also hate you, and they make a lot of fun of you too, go to some croatian forum, you should be able to understand them couse you speak serbian. Everyone in the balkans hate albanians, maybe you and croatians had the same enemy but still they do not like you. DEATH TO FILTHY SHIPTARS

ILIR LIKA		31-Mar-2006 19:13
TO ALEX http://www.jasenovac.org/whatwasjasenovac/index.asp I LOVE THIS WEBSITE IS IN FAVOURITE OF MY PC WHEN I SAW WHAT USTASE DID TO YOU MY HEART IS HAPPY ALL DAY LONG LIVE CROATIA AND UNITED ALBANIA

ILIR LIKA		31-Mar-2006 19:03
TO CHETNIKS seven hundred Serbian victims of the Glina Church Massacre - stabbed and then left inside as their church was burned to the ground by the Ustase in July 1941 OH I LOVE IT WHEN I READ IT LONG LIVE USTASE I LOVE USTASE ANTE WELCOME TO THIS FORUM CROATS SOON IN EUROPE CZ THEY ARE ROMAN CATHOLIC REAL CHRISTIAN FUCK SERBS WE WILL FUCK AGAIN THEIR SISTERS LONG LIVE CROATIA AND UNITED ALBANIA

Alex Belgrade		31-Mar-2006 19:03
Vlad, The guest said to Ante: "Did you forget that Romanians are Orthodox?" I translated. There you go. Croats hate Orthodox. Ilir Lika, you are one sick person. That's all I can say and now that people have read your latest comment - any sympathy you may have won with your heartbreaking story earlier on, has been lost. You are really miserable and I cannot even begin to explain to you how miserable you are. Your latest comment says it all. So many idiots are coming here, that it's really become sickening. P.S. Ante my English is way better than yours. Perhaps you speak great German, you sick Nazi son of a bitch.

Alex Belgrade		31-Mar-2006 18:56
Croatian genocide of Serbs: The Jasenovac death camp where several hundred thousand Serbs, Jews, Roma, communists and others perished, but above all and mostly Serbs. Even the Nazis were horrified at such methods used by the Ustashe. http://www.jasenovac.org/whatwasjasenovac/index.asp Croatia does not have death camps today but its ideology is the same as in WW 2. In Croatia there is a sickening hate towards Serbs - it's crazy and pathological. During the 1990s Croats sold empty cans - on which it was written PURE CROATIAN AIR. We never had such madness in Serbia. During the war, we listened to Croatian music etc.

ILR LIKA		31-Mar-2006 18:52
to chetniks the Holocaust, estimates the Ustase murdered 30,000 Jews (75% of the total number in the NDH's pre-war boundaries), 29,000 Roma (97%) and some 600,000 Serbs (about one-third). These were people with faces, with names, with families and aspirations. HA HA HA HA I LOVE IT WHEN I READ IT hi ante you are my ally LONG LIVE CROATIAlet us (albanian) know again when you go to war with chetniks to show us or training us how you sloughter chetniks cz we need some training how to kill chetniks cz in 10 or 20 years we will go to war again with chetniks to reclaim our land back in TOPLICA NISH KURSHUMLIA PUSTA REKA LESKOVAC ETC ETC LONG LIVE CROATIA YOU ARE BROTHERS OF ILLYRIANS (DALMATIANS)

Alex Belgrade		31-Mar-2006 18:52
Ante, You nazis are a disgrace to mankind. Please leave this forum. You have your Nazi state now - be happy in it. Leave us alone. I do not hate Croats as such, but I hate you Ustashi monsters. We feel very sad for you. We have never crawled and Croatia crawls just about all the time. It sided with the wrong side in both world wars and lost - and only thank the Serbs for wanting you back in Yugoslavia, so you could escape paying for war damages. You are loosers and you know it. While Croatia has only become independent in 1991, Serbia was independent a whole century before, since 1878. In short, you are loosers and full of complexes. I remember Croats singing DANKE DEUTSCHLAND - thank you Germany. You are a cowardly people with no back bone. And it's not true that Serbia has only Belgrade to offer to tourists. Becki konjusari. Ljigavi. Prevrtljivi. Pokvareni. Izvestaceni. Mizerni. Nacisti - bili i ostali sljam. To ste vi. S VEROM U BOGA, SLOBODA ILI SMRT! dole KRVatska! Vlad, How can you even speak to this asshole and what's that Sieg Heil shit? Come on, man.

Alex Belgrade		31-Mar-2006 18:43
Albanians have this strategy: they legally and illegally populate an area to the point of saturation, then start making demands, with intimidation and later terrror, until there are so many of them that nothning can be done - either comply to what they want or use massive force to get rid of them. The so-called question of their "rights" are just a phasade. Everywhere. The West has taken a snake for its Ally. And sooner or later, that snake will turn against the West.

Vlad		31-Mar-2006 18:17
ANTE, SIEG HEIL ALSO TO YOU, I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE A KAMERATEN, AND I ALSO THAN YOU FOR THE BEAUTIFUL WORDS AND FOR YOU INVITE. CERTAINLY CROATIA IS FULL OF BEAUTIFUL THINGS, ISTRIA, DALMATIA AND ALSO ZAGREB I BELIEVE IS A BEAUTIFUL CITY, I HADN'T BEEN THERE BUT I KNOW SPLIT AND DUBROVNIK AND I THINK THAT ARE VERY BEAUTIFUL . HOW I SAID BEFORE I DON'T KNOW ZAGREB, YOU ARE FROM THERE? FOR YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT POLITIC: I'M GLAD THAT YOU ARE ALSO A RIGHT RADICAL, BUT I'M SORRY FOR YOUR HATE AGAINST YOUR SERBIAN BROTHERS. YOU'RE THE SAME PEOPLE, YOU'RE SLAVIC, YOU SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE, YOU WERE UNITED FOR MORE TIME IN THE PAST. I SAID IN A MY PRECEDENT COMMENT THAT I WAS VERY SORRY TO DON'T SEE IN CROATIA INDICATION TO BELGRADE AND TO SEE EVERY WHERE A GREAT HATE MIXTED WITH INDIFFERENCE AGAINST SERBS. WE LIVE IN A PERIOD WHEN ALSO IN THE PLAIN OF RADICAL RIGHT, EUROPE IS UNITED AGAINST ISLAMIC ATTACK AND AMERICAN ARROGANCE, CROATIA WHO CERTAINLY HAS A TRADITION LIKE US IN THE PLAIN OF RADICAL RIGHT, IN MY OPINION MUST FORGET ITS HATE AGAINST SERBIA, AND IS THE TIME FOR CROATIANS TO BEGIN AN ALLIANCE WITH THE RADICAL PART OF SERBIA EXACTLY LIKE HOW IT DID WITH RADICAL PARTY OF EVERY EUROPEAN COUNTRY. I'M GLAD TO RECEIVE YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS, AND ALSO TO COME IN CROATIA, IF YOU WANT TO DO IT WE SPEAK ANYMORE LATER, ALSO BECAUSE FOR THE SUMMER THE TIME IS TOO LONG. GUEST: YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT WE ROMANIANS? COULD YOU PLEASE TRANSLATE? UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T UNDERSTAND SERB.

Guest		31-Mar-2006 16:55
GRANATE NA HRVATE

Guest		31-Mar-2006 16:55
Ante jel ti neko rekao da su rumuni pravoslavci ??

Guest		31-Mar-2006 16:53
Ante zagreb je SELO :)

Ante		31-Mar-2006 15:42
To Vlad: Sieg Heil Kameraten. I'm a croatian right radical, I visited your web sites and i found them wonderful. I want to say you to don't speak with these serbs and these albanians. You are our brothers and our two countries are developed, while serbia is poor and without never. Never tourism, never attractive things, never interesting things. We find them very very sad. Don't see anymore beograd who is the ony thing that they have. Come here in Croatia to see another developed and beautiful country like your. Zagreb is far better than Beograd, if you want to come here I will glad to present you my ustasa friends. I'm sure that you prefer ustasa who are really right radicals instead serbs who yet think to Tito. Serbs haven't Split, Rovinj, Zagreb, Dalmacija, this is the reason because neverybody want to visit serbia. Listen to me my Kameraten, leave these poor unfortunate peoples, serbs are good only to speak with albanians. If you are interest to come here this summer we will glad to receive you, certainly if you want to receive us in Romania, we are interest to see the beautiful Transylvania and the Green House of Iron Guard in Bucharest. We love Iron Guard. See the site: www.hdz.hr PS: certainly you like my name who is the same of the great Pavelic.

Guest		31-Mar-2006 14:45
Jebite se Siptari

Dardanians		31-Mar-2006 13:51
You serbs you OCCUPIED Albanian land.....we soon will back our land historical... Nish, Vranje, Kragonjevac soon will be albanian land... and uou killed milions albanians dont forget bigg masacre of 1848 in Nish Region, 1912, 1928, 1944-1945 ect ect you serbs are evil you are gipsy...your land is AZIA...go back in your land Afganistan-Siberia-Iran....you are not sllav but iranian-afganistan...gipsy...barbarian You killed woman, kids...your barbarian....you are poor people...THE EVE OF ALBANIANS SI HERE.....WE COME BACK ILLYRIANALBANIANARBANIAN...... s

Guest		31-Mar-2006 12:36
Ne znam sto uopste pisete na engleskom, pisite na srpskom ako vec hocete da komunicirate na ovaj nacin, a sto se siptara tice znamo svi koja su beda tako da is iscoolirajte smesni su. Ne znam kako ih nije sramota da su albanici :) A i ovako 80% ih razume i prica srpski pa nek diskutuju na srpskom, kao nekada, i kao sto ce za 50-100 godina. poz

Guest		31-Mar-2006 12:34
And still its not kosovA with A its KOSOVO so fuck off dick head albanians, go sell some drugs or eat shit like you always do. .

ILR LIKA		31-Mar-2006 11:14
HA HA HA IT HURT YES SORRY ALEX THIS IS THE TRUTH ABOUT KOSOVA

ILR LIKA		31-Mar-2006 11:13
FROM PJETER TOPLICA TO CHETNIKS BRAVO MY BROTHERT The Serbian population of Kosovo should be removed as soon as possible . . . All indigenous Serbs should be qualified as colonists and as such, via the Albanian and american governments, be sent to concentration camps in Albania. Serbian settlers should be killed." Similar sentiments were expressed by a Kosovo Albanian leader, Hashim Thaqi "time has come to exterminate the Serbs . . . there will be no Serbs under the Kosovo sun.

ILIR LIKA		31-Mar-2006 11:10
TO ALEX READ IT AGAIN OR I WILL FUCK YOUR SISTER HARDER there is no historical prove that the chetniks colonized the ancient Dardania in the VI or VII century. The Slavic theory, which the Serbian historians bring as a preferable argument to try the Serbian colonisation of Kosova in the beginning of early medievalism, has no value, because in the documentary sources they appear in this territory only in the beginning of the X century they were pagan. Also, the avowal that the cradle of Serbia is in Kosova is not true, because it is known that its initial territory was in Raska province, in Sanjak. Even, the occupation of Kosova from Serbia began at the end of XII century. Further more, the gothic Serbian kingdom did not have any constant capital. Prizren was one of the ambulant capitals of this state, which had the tendency to expand continuously by occupations towards the south, including the Greek lands, with aim of replacing the Byzantine Empire and to establish its capital finally in Costadinopoya. Nobody can prove that the Serbian rule in Kosova lasted more than three centuries. Except this, already many data’s are collected that confirm that during these centuries the Albanians were present in the historical territories of Kosova and that the pressure exercised from the Serbian state and church, in most of the cases, was realised only with the Slavication of the locations and the names of the inhabitants. There are even many cases, where if you remove the Slavic suffix, it will come out that they are Albanian inhabitants (for example Lek-ich, Pal-ich, Petr-ich, Gjon-ovsky, etc.) Even the Belgrade thesis that in the historic battle of Kosova, which occurred in year 1389 against the Turkish, only the Serbs participated, does not consist. There are many independent notifications, which prove that under the rows of the anti-ottoman coalition the Albanians fought in considerable masses

ILR LIKA		31-Mar-2006 11:08
TO ALEX .... READ IT AGAIN OK YOU MOTHER FUCKER Serbian-inhabited area of Kosova from the 12th to the 14th centuries. Kosovo, the northern part of Kosova, was covered by the fortresses and royal courts of the Albanian rulers and their nobility.During the rule of the Emperor Stefan Dusan (1346). Kosva itself was covered by a network of Albanian churches. Most of Kosova densely populated villages belonged to the big churches built between the roman empire, most often rulers' endowments, like Graqanica in Kosova near Pristina, Bogorodica Ljeviska in Prizren, Deqani in the vinicity of Peja or the St. Archangels near Prizren, among many others.. The Albanians, whom the Serbs called Arbanasi, were a cattle-breeding, nomadic people which unhinderedly raised its large herds on the dark mountains . There were no visible inter-ethnic divisions; the overlords from central Albania and Epirus were just as loyal to their Serbian ruler as were those of his native Rascia: the short-lived Serbian Empire of Stefan Dusan (1331-1355), which encompassed most of the Balkans, just as had Byzantium, had universalist pretensions.than during ruler Stefan Dusan (1331-1355) in Kosova they transformed some of our albanian catholic churches into monasteries like Graqanica,deqan,peja and some they bulid it so this is how you serbs made history of kosova (dardania)province of Illyria i mean province of ALBANIA at the time

ILIR LIKA		31-Mar-2006 11:06
to alex read it again ok I was recruited into Albania by a member of KLA in Tirana. they provided us with weapons, ammunition, satellite phones and walkie-talkies. That was the middle of March 1998. We trained for three days at a camp in northern (Albania). There were 200 in my unit, and most of the guys came with war experience from Bosnia and other places. Three of them were former members of the Yugoslav state security service in Yugoslavia juring the year 1978-1990 The goal was to fight against the chetniks and to cleanse away their support. I am a albanian patriot. I fought for the albanian cause. I don't care about serbs They're shit. They have dirty children. But we were not killing children or raping women. I mean, that's one of the biggest lies, about the rapes. serb women are so dirty and ugly, how can we rape them?

Guest		31-Mar-2006 06:40
To All, Elias did a great job and the pictures show a very nice city with impressive buildings. It appears to me that most of you are not only off the topic but also very simple minded. Stop arguing about Kosovo because you will not solve it by exchanging offences.

Alex Belgrade		31-Mar-2006 05:39
Ilir Lika, You are a freaking terrorist. The KLA was listed as a terrorist organization by the FBI until 1998. You say KLA did not rape women? I have photos of raped and beaten women. I have photos of Serbs beheaded. I have photos of churches turned into rubble. Serbian women are a million times prettier than Albanian. Tirana will never be like Belgrade and Albania will never be like Serbia. Never will you have so many investments and tourists as Serbia, never will you organize any European event. Albanians are primitive tribal people with a thirst for territory and blood, the most corrupt and dangerous people in Europe. That's why you do shitty jobs abroad and that's why you are the synonim for everything that is ugly, poor and backward. Never will Albania be better than Serbia. You have paid taxes to our Tsar Dusan. If you were so brave, why did you not claim Kosovo in 1912 or 1918 or 1945? Because you were always weak cowards, and you would not have won in 1999 without America. So fuck you and your bravery and your idiotic people.

ILIR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 21:58
TO ALEX HA HA HA HA HA HA FUCK OFF LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA SERBS ARE SHIT YOU KNOW EVEN YOUR SELF SORRY MOJ DRUGAR HAJT JEBI SE MAJKU TI JEBEM QAO QAO

ILIR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 21:52
TO SERBS and to john hackman as you know i was KLA sodier I was recruited into Albania by a member of KLA in Tirana. they provided us with weapons, ammunition, satellite phones and walkie-talkies. That was the middle of March 1998. We trained for three days at a camp in northern (Albania). There were 200 in my unit, and most of the guys came with war experience from Bosnia and other places. Three of them were former members of the Yugoslav state security service in Yugoslavia juring the year 1978-1990 The goal was to fight against the chetniks and to cleanse away their support. I am a albanian patriot. I fought for the albanian cause. I don't care about serbs They're shit. They have dirty children. But we were not killing children or raping women. I mean, that's one of the biggest lies, about the rapes. serb women are so dirty and ugly, how can we rape them?

Alex Belgrade		30-Mar-2006 21:49
Ilir Lika, Your truth? That's funny. I have provided in my texts hundreds of arguments to which Albanians had no reply. I am really tired of you, you are full of shit, I am sick of you twisting everything around. Whatever I say will not change your mind, and whatever you say will not change my mind, so let's drop it. And you are just a peasant boy, remember that. Tirana is a city of 700,000 people, Belgrade is a city of 2 million. You Albanians are inferior to Serbs in every way. That's the truth and deep down you know it. That's why you hate us so much. You belong in Asia, not Europe. When I look at the faces of people in Kosovo, I can spot an Albanian from a mile away. Excluding the white caps, their faces are in most cases really dumb looking. You are a country that has until recently been the absolute worst of Europe. I don't think that much has changed. Ilir Lika, village boy, I hope you have ten children per family so that they can all clean English streets and polish English boots and receive social benefits. If I were an Albanian I'd crawl back to the bunker Hoxha built and stay there. You pollute this forum. I piss on the Albanian National Front - you are now turning this forum into the forum of Albanian political groups and parties. Who the hell cares about your Front. Fuck you and Fuck the UCK. If you did not hide behind Madeleine Albright's skirt, you would have NOTHING. You have been miserable, you are miserable and you will be miserable. The most primitive, backward, corrupt people of Europe. In 1990 one could count the number of cars in Albania. You are like a nature's mistake, a failed experiment. If England likes Albanians so much, it should let them all immigrate there. Peasant boy, I don't have to take any crap from you.

ILIR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 20:16
HI LEE HOW ARE YOU MATE

ILIR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 20:15
ha ha ha ha ha when i speak the truth chetniks are angry with me ha ha ha ha can some one from you chetniks bring it your sister to me i will pay her 2 euro per a night then you will have food for tmw in belgrade ha ha ha ha ha LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA

lee coleman.		30-Mar-2006 19:03
alex are there any newspapers in belgrade that are in english ? i realize that you could probably buy outside papers like USA today or london times etc, like in any other big city but is there one that deals with serb affairs , topics , adds etc in the english language . cheers Lee

Stefan Serb		30-Mar-2006 17:37
Hello cunts, I hate Alex and serbia is shit and fuck Milosevich, he is dead good.

Alex Belgrade		30-Mar-2006 17:10
Alex Belgrade, I am sure Stefan Serb did not write the previous message. I am in contact with him via email and I know his way of thinking - this was NOT written by him. I hate it when some coward uses someone else's name. People, grow up!

Stefan Serb		30-Mar-2006 16:29
Hello cunts, I hate Alex and serbia is shit and fuck Milosevich, he is dead good.

heheh		30-Mar-2006 14:49
http://www.livingscenes.com/jigsaw-puzzles/volume_2/piglets_.jpg above ALBANIANS on pics. the odd one is Ilyr Lika

Alex Belgrade		30-Mar-2006 12:34
Albanians, It is clear that we will NEVER agree on anything. You are telling me Gracanica was a Catholic church? What the hell are you saying? Those churches have been built in the Serbian-Byzantine style and have never been anything else, except Serbian churches. It is true, though, that many Orthodox churches were turned to mosques (Turkish) or horse stables. How dare you even mention those churches. It's a disgrace coming from your mouth. You can think whatever you want but everyone knows that Kosovo belonged to Serbia and was part of the Serbian medieval state, and belonged to Serbia and Yugoslavia for most of the 20th century, from 1912 till 1999. Officially, it still belongs to Serbia and is called Kosovo, not Kosova, you motherfuckers. You will probably get independence, but it will be CONDITIONAL. That means you'd better start respecting the Serbian population there. You have not gotten independence YET, so I would hold the joy if I were you. It's so sad you come to this forum. Go to Albanian forums and write everything you want about Dardania, the Illyrians, Greater Albania. Hate us, do whatever you want, just leave this forum. We do not want you here, you do not belong here.

JOHN HACKMAN USA		30-Mar-2006 12:11
DEATH TO ALL THE SHITHEADS MOTHER FUCKERS ALBANIANS.THE DUMBEST,POOREST,ANGLIEST PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WOLRD.GO DIE .DO IT FOR THE GOOD OF YOURSELVES FIRST AND THEN FOR THE GOOD OF THE MANKING.DEATH TO THE ALBANIANS.WHY DON'T YOU MAKE YOUR OWN FORUM TO WRITE INSTEAD OF POSTING HERE YOUR BULLSHIT.DEATH TO ALL OF THE ALBANIANS AND TO THEIR MOTHERS

ILR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 08:14
TO SERBS Tuesday, March 14, 2006 BREAKING NEWS: Russia and China give assurance they will not stand in way of Kosovo independence By Guy Dinmore in Washington and Daniel Dombey in London >Published: March 14 2006 20:31 \| Last updated: March 14 2006 20:31 >> Russia and China have told the US that they will not block the independence of Kosovo, the breakaway Serbian province, according to western diplomats. Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, discussed the issue with Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, in Washington last week and was told Moscow would not stand in the way of independence, the officials said. Russia and China would probably abstain in a proposed UN resolution that would grant independence. Kosovo, with its ethnic Albanian majority and Serb minority, has been a ward of the UN since Nato forces bombed Serbia to halt “ethnic cleansing” in 1999 and then took control of the province. But the debate has entered a new phase with the start of UN-brokered negotiations to decide Kosovo’s final status. The issue is particularly sensitive since Serbia, which has offered Kosovo autonomy rather than independence, is also involved in a face-off with the international community over General Ratko Mladic, the Bosnian Serb war crimes indictee, who is still at large. The death last week of Slobodan Milosevic, Serbia’s former president, has added to the heady brew. The US and UK are pushing for Serbia to accept that Kosovo will become independent, while Russia, which had previously worried that the province would set a precedent for its own republic of Chechnya, has scaled down its objections. The officials, who asked not to be named, said the Bush administration had persuaded Moscow and Beijing that independence for the Serbian province was “unique” and would not set a precedent for Chechnya or for the Chinese-claimed territories of Taiwan and Tibet. However, analysts said some in Moscow wanted a better deal with Washington that might leave open the possibility of a Kosovo-type solution for other regions, including Georgia’s breakaway region of Abkhazia, which is backed by Russia. Last week Jack Straw, the UK foreign secretary, said Kosovo’s independence was “almost inevitable”. But Philippe Douste-Blazy, his French counterpart, stuck closer to the European Union’s official line by saying that negotiations should not be prejudged”. The EU has also told Serbia it has until the end of this month to increase co-operation with the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia over the detention and transfer of Gen Mladic. HA HA HA THERE IS A WEBSITE SO YOU CAN READ IT http://kosovareport.blogspot.com/2006/03/breaking-news-russia-and-china-give.html

ILIR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 07:44
TO SERBS TO ALEX (DEMOCRAT) HAHA Serbian-inhabited area of Kosova from the 12th to the 14th centuries. Kosovo, the northern part of Kosova, was covered by the fortresses and royal courts of the Albanian rulers and their nobility.During the rule of the Emperor Stefan Dusan (1346). Kosva itself was covered by a network of Albanian churches. Most of Kosova densely populated villages belonged to the big churches built between the roman empire, most often rulers' endowments, like Graqanica in Kosova near Pristina, Bogorodica Ljeviska in Prizren, Deqani in the vinicity of Peja or the St. Archangels near Prizren, among many others.. The Albanians, whom the Serbs called Arbanasi, were a cattle-breeding, nomadic people which unhinderedly raised its large herds on the dark mountains . There were no visible inter-ethnic divisions; the overlords from central Albania and Epirus were just as loyal to their Serbian ruler as were those of his native Rascia: the short-lived Serbian Empire of Stefan Dusan (1331-1355), which encompassed most of the Balkans, just as had Byzantium, had universalist pretensions.than during ruler Stefan Dusan (1331-1355) in Kosova they transformed some of our albanian catholic churches into monasteries like Graqanica,deqan,peja and some they bulid it so this is how you serbs made history of kosova (dardania)province of Illyria i mean province of ALBANIA at the time

ILIR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 07:22
- LONG LIVE UNITED ALBANIA! - LONG LIVE THE ALBANIAN PEOPLE! - LONG LIVE THE ALBANIAN NATIONAL UNITY FRONT!

ILIR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 07:15
TO CHETNIKS AND GREEKS During their thousand years history the Albanians were forced to leave their ethnic territories time after time, individually or collectively for different reasons (political, economical, social and religious) and to settle in other countrys in the world away from their homeland The Albanian National Unity Front, around the world approximately 9 million Albanians are living and working, as Diaspora, emigrants or refugee more than population in their homeland so all together 17 milion albanian are in their home land and around the world, takes over the responsibility of finding the ways and most benefiting means for organizing them in countries where they live, and determines to itself the obligation of becoming an important factor for defending their rights and basic freedoms, with purpose of avoiding mistreatment as second hand citizens in the countries where they live and work. Often, the Albanian groups from Diaspora built their settlements close to each other, this way creating provincial Albanian communes in the body of other ethnicities.Albanian Communities of Diaspora have survived until the present day, in Bulgaria, Thraka, Besarabya, Ukraine, Slavonya, Dalmatia, Egypt and elsewhere. inhabitants of a few provinces of Albanian Diaspora in Turkey and Italy are still keeping their ethnic-linguistic identity of their ancestors, like the Albanian language and spiritual culture of the ancient grandfathers.

Alex Belgrade		30-Mar-2006 07:05
Ilir Lika Milosevic did revoke the autonomy in 1989 because it was getting out of hand. You do not mention the fact that many KLA terrorists had done so many terrorist acts - I have an entire book, and the Yugoslav army and Serbian police had to intervene. Many KLA terrorists hid in private homes. The massive movement of Albanians had started AFTER Nato had bombed Yugoslavia. As for the 15,000 dead Albanians, that is the maximalist Albanian figure. Still, it's far from "100.000 dead Albanians" proclaimed by Western media to justify the bombings. A Spanish forensic expert said that in his best estimate 2.500 Albanians were killed. As for the million Albanians driven out, that figure is also exagerrated - upto 600,000 were driven out. That's a lot, but it's less than a million. Upto 40% of Kosovo population were illegal Albanians from Albania - they poured in over the decades. Every country expells illegal aliens. As for you going back to the 6th century I already told you my arguments. In any case Rome could go back so many years and claim territories. Everyone knows Kosovo has been part of Serbia for much of the 20th century and for much of the medieval times. Therefore Kosovo is Serbian. The population census and architecture (churches) prove that. The Turkish land record census of 1445 - the earliest one preserved, (keeping in mind that this was at the time when the Turks had occupied Kosovo, shows that in Kosovo there were 12,844 Serbian households and 46 Albanian ones. There are well over 1.400 Orthodox churches, most from medieval times. Certainly no such trace of an ancient Albanian civilization. You have no arguments, no case, just 10 members per family and that gives you the right to take away a land that has historically never been part of Albania, except under Hitler. Your case stinks.

ILIR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 06:58
TO GREEKS The unsolved Albanian problem is one of the priorities of the Albanian National Unity Front. There are about 300.000 thousand Albanian, which the chauvinist Greeks expelled from their lands and property, in an unseen genocide in year 1945. The Albanian National Unity Front, together with its structures, will work regarding these problems and achieve the following targets: To enforce the state Greek authorities to allow the return of the Albanian in their lands and properties from where they were violently displaced; The Greek authorities must make a public apology to the Albanian for the genocide exercised on them, same as the responsible countries did for the genocide exercised towards the Jews; To compensate the Albanian for all the damages caused to them by this massive genocide; The Albanian that will return to their lands, from which they were violently displaced by the chauvinist Greeks, should enjoy the same rights as the Greek minority in Albania does.

ILIR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 06:52
TO GREEKS THE ALBANIANS OF GREECE, THE PROBLEM OF ÇAMËRIA AND ITS SOLUTION In the neighbouring Greece the presence of Albanians is so ancient also so new. The ancient ethnic Albanians who reside since thousand of years in their lands, which are in a uninterrupted continuity with the territory of Albania and who were for thousand years part of the Albanian territory, regardless of the boundary pyramids which were set in year 1913. They reside in the territories of Çamëria, Kostur and Follorina, who avoided the expelling by force because they were orthodox . They speak the Albanian mother tongue, but cannot declare they are Albanians. Until today the Greek state didn’t recognize these Albanians as an ethnic minority in Greece, whose rights should at least be such that the Greek minority in Albania enjoys.

ILIR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 06:46
TO CHETNIKS AND OTHERS USA, EU and all the progressive international factors are engaged in an un-compromised war against terrorism, as the main enemy of civilization and humanity nowadays. A United Albania will be a significant ally and will be placed along the international forces against terrorism in this confused part of the Balkans. The allowance of the creation of a United Albanian state by the economical view will be lightness for Europe and USA. The National Albanian Union will enable the maximal use of our national surface and underground resources, favourable Mediterranean climate with 310 sunny days a year, as Albania is a remarkable tourist place, which is dampened by two seas and has lake, river and alpine resources which make the whole country a tourist place. The United Albania will not only be a burden for Europe and USA no more, who are keeping with charity all the Albanian areas, but on the contrary, it would ease them a little bit from the approximately 8 million Albanians who are living in balkan. A Great Albania has enough space to keep in its bosom all the Albanians LONG LEAVE UNITED ALBANIA.

ILIR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 06:30
to chetniks and others there is no historical prove that the chetniks colonized the ancient Dardania in the VI or VII century. The Slavic theory, which the Serbian historians bring as a preferable argument to try the Serbian colonisation of Kosova in the beginning of early medievalism, has no value, because in the documentary sources they appear in this territory only in the beginning of the X century they were pagan. Also, the avowal that the cradle of Serbia is in Kosova is not true, because it is known that its initial territory was in Raska province, in Sanjak. Even, the occupation of Kosova from Serbia began at the end of XII century. Further more, the gothic Serbian kingdom did not have any constant capital. Prizren was one of the ambulant capitals of this state, which had the tendency to expand continuously by occupations towards the south, including the Greek lands, with aim of replacing the Byzantine Empire and to establish its capital finally in Costadinopoya. Nobody can prove that the Serbian rule in Kosova lasted more than three centuries. Except this, already many data’s are collected that confirm that during these centuries the Albanians were present in the historical territories of Kosova and that the pressure exercised from the Serbian state and church, in most of the cases, was realised only with the Slavication of the locations and the names of the inhabitants. There are even many cases, where if you remove the Slavic suffix, it will come out that they are Albanian inhabitants (for example Lek-ich, Pal-ich, Petr-ich, Gjon-ovsky, etc.) Even the Belgrade thesis that in the historic battle of Kosova, which occurred in year 1389 against the Turkish, only the Serbs participated, does not consist. There are many independent notifications, which prove that under the rows of the anti-ottoman coalition the Albanians fought in considerable masses,

ILIR LIKA		30-Mar-2006 05:56
to chetniks and others In the early 1990’s the great majority of those living in Kosova were ethnic Albanians. 2.2 million population. In 1990 Milosevic revoked the autonomous status granted in 1974, all Albanians were removed from important state posts and a state of emergency was declared. Kosovo’s declaration of republic in 1992 was opposed by Milosevic and passive resistance from the ethnic Albanians grew. In 1996 a new organisation, the Kosovo Liberation Army, began to use force to achieve the goal of independence. Serbian security forces responded with brutal military repression of the ethnic Albanian population as a whole: killing civilians or driving them from their homes, which were burnt or otherwise destroyed. It is estimated that 15,000 Kosovan Albanians were killed and up to one million forcibly displaced, either internally within Kosova or as refugees.

Pablo		29-Mar-2006 23:44
Hi Tirana. I visited Albania, aswell as the rest of the Balkans last summer. I went with my University, as part of a cultural exploration project, they are very popular here in Cuba. Life here in Cuba is pretty good. I do not think we are as poor as many people believe, that is much American propaganda, who has done its best to keep us poor. Nobody in cuba doesnt have food or doesnt have a home, and everybody can go to school. But their are certain things that are very hard to find, like gas, some kinds of meat, and just alot of things for the house and stuff. But its ok, life is good overall. Fidel is getting old, but he will never die :-)

Vlad		29-Mar-2006 18:47
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Alex Belgrade		29-Mar-2006 18:34
Tirana said: quote I heard that Goran Bregovic was coming to Tirana in April. end quote. I guess he must have included the city of Tirana as the key place of his world tour :) I have not heard this news. ------------------------ Agron said: quote Two albanian drunks were driving down the road. The 1stdrunk looked over to the other drunk and says"I think we are getting closer to graqanica." The 2nd drunk says, "How can you tell?" 1st drunk says "We're hitting more and more serbs." end quote Were they drunk or were they on cocaine?!

Alex Belgrade		29-Mar-2006 18:33
Tirana said: > I heard that Goran Bregovic was coming to Tirana in April. Two albanian drunks were driving down the road. The 1stdrunk looked over to the other drunk and says"I think we are getting closer to graqanica." The 2nd drunk says, "How can you tell?" 1st drunk says "We're hitting more and more serbs."< Were they drunk or were they on cocaine?!

Alex Belgrade		29-Mar-2006 18:29
Personally I am against all extreme forms - right or left. I am a democrat, I like the concept of democracy, that people can choose their leaders in free and fair elections. I do not like prosecutions and censorship. I want every citizen of Serbia to live in peace provided that he or she respects the laws of Serbia. I have nothing against Albanians in Serbia - close from where I work, an Albanian owns a pastry store, I know he is Albanian because of his name, even I sometimes eat cakes there - and nobody has any problem with him. I have problems with separatists and secessionists that want to tear my country apart. I love Serbia above evrything else and with all my heart, I am a patriot but not extreme nationalist. I am also tolerant provided that others are tolerant with me. Tirana, I am now ready to accept you as a friend - but not the other Albanians that have posted here.

lee coleman		29-Mar-2006 18:27
no alex they are not getting what they want ,, in the next few years you will see huge western investment in serbia and montenegro ,, the tide is turning for serbia . from small working class builders like me to multinational companys the word serbia is like a whisper on investers lips .. no company would invest if they thought albania was a real threat to serbia proper . in a sence albania is more isolated politicaly than serbia they have no allies in europe or washington this is a cold fact many albanians cannot be told , a shame because many albanians are decent hard working people .

Vlad		29-Mar-2006 16:44
TIRANA, I DON'T SAW THAT ALBANIA WAS A FASCIST STATE. I SAW ONLY THAT ALBANIA CAN'T BE CONSIDERED AT THAT TIME TOTAL FOR NAZI-FASCIST COALITION OR TOTAL ANTI-FASCIST. YES ITS SITUATION WAS THE SAME OF THE FRANCE OF VICHY, WHERE A PART OF THAT COUNTRY CHOOSED TO BE ALLIATE OF GERMANY AND AN ANOTHER PART CHOOSED WITH DE GAULLE TO FOUGHT AGAINST GERMANY. I DON'T LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY HATING THE RADICAL RIGHTS REGIMES. FOR EXAMPLE, IRON GUARD WHO I LOVE WAS AN EXAMPLE OF HONOUR AND COURAGE. ANTONESCU WAS A GREAT PATRIOT AND CODREANU, THE FOUNDATOR OF THAT MOVIMENT WAS A FATHER OF RADICAL RIGHT CULTURE. HIS BOOKS ARE LIKED ALSO BY MANY INTELECTUALS OF FOREIGN COUNTRY. ALSO FEW MONTHS AGO, MANY REPRESENTANTS OF RADICAL RIGHT MOVIMENTS FROM WEST CAME TO HONOUR HIS ANNIVERSARY OF DEATH. WERE PRESENT NPD FROM GERMANY, NATIONAL FRONT OF FRENCH, FORZA NUOVA FROM ITALY, LA FALANGE FROM SPAIN. WHY IS CONSIDERED SO BAD TO LOVE THAT REGIMES WHO ALSO GUARANTED ORDER, LAW AND PROSPERITY. ANTONESCU FOR EXAMPLE FOUGHT AGAINST GYPSIES ARROGANCE AND AGAINST JEWISH LOBBIES. CERTAINLY HOLOCAUST WAS A GREAT CRIME, AND I'M VERY SAD FOR THAT 6MILLIONS OF JEWISH THAT DIED AT THAT TIME, BUT THAT REGIMES DON'T COMMITTED ONLY CRIMES.

Alex Belgrade		29-Mar-2006 14:29
Albanians Albania, as I see it, remains the poorest country of Europe, divided by three tribes and three religions - Islam, Roman - Catholic and Orthodox. They are divided on many issues and in several main political options. But, even though they are divided on many issues, they are very united when it comes to their Albanianism. That is not the case with Serbs and their Serbism. So, Albanians are much more united when their nationalism is concerned. The idea of a pan-Albanian unification in one large state has been their dream since 1878 and the Prizren League. Today that idea is the ultimate political, national and religious goal. The desire for a Greater Albania is present more in Kosovo and other places such as Montenegro and Macedonia, than in Albania itself. During the 1998-9 war in Kosovo, Serbian forces have captured numerous maps of Greater Albania which would encompass Albania, Kosovo, Presevo Valley (south Serbia), parts of Montenegro, almost half of Macedonia and parts of Greece. The way to achieve this is through over-populating and then "spilling out" to other regions. Albanians have the highest natality rate in Europe - but they do not have the economic means and standard of living to support so many children. Their second tactic is demanding for their so-called rights. First, they want autonomy, then a Republic, then a secession of that Republic and, finally, unification of that Republic with Albania proper. If they do not succeed politically, they will bribe the politicians and interest groups in Washington. They also tend to internationalize the problem and portray themselves as victims, not medieval - minded murderers. They also use force to achieve their means. Terror. Today in Kosovo. Tomorrow in Montenegro and Macedonia. I do not think they will destabilize Greece because Greece is in the European Union. Albanians have patience and they take their time in achieving CONQUEST OF OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVING SPACE, by different and all means. They are not in a hurry. The saddest thing for me is, and for all Europeans should be that these guys - primitive and narrow minded, are actually getting what they want.

Alex Belgrade		29-Mar-2006 14:16
Everyone knows that Albania and Kosovo were a fascist state - Greater Albania in WW 2, created by Mussolini and Hitler, and that was the only time Kosovo had ever been part of Albania. Should I mention the horrific crimes committed by the Albanians in Kosovo, with and under the swastika?

Tirana		29-Mar-2006 13:44
What do you mean a region of Italy? Maybe that's what Italy wanted, but we never were a region of Italy. The fact is that they invaded us. You can't say that we were pro-nazi only because some people collabored with them. What about France who had A GOVERNMENT under the nazi rules (Gouvernement de Vichy under the marechal Petain). Does it mean that France too didn't fight against them? Nonsense. Try not to confond the two situations Vlad! We fought as we could, but we fought and not only in the second, but in both World Wars.

Vlad		29-Mar-2006 11:47
THE SAME SITUATION OF GREECE UNDER METEXAS REGIME. ALSO IF METAXAS WAS FASCIST, HE WAS ALLIED WITH ENGLAND TO FIGHT AGAINST MUSSOLINI WHO ALSO FEW YEARS BEFORE CONQUERED THE GREEK ISLE OF CORFù.

Vlad		29-Mar-2006 11:44
TIRANA, WE CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT AN ALBANIAN STATE IN WW2, BECAUSE IT WAS A REGION OF ITALY. MY ITALIAN GRANFATHER WAS COLONEL UNDER MUSSOLINI REGIME AND HE PARTECIPED TO INVASION OF ALBANIA. HE TALK THAT MUSSOLINI IN A DAY WHEN MET ITALIAN TROOPS SAID THAT ALBANIA MUSTED BE A PART OF ITALY, A POINT WHO MUSTED PERMIT TO HIS TROOPS TO ATTACK GREECE. HIS WORDS WERE: "DOPO AVER SPEZZATO LE RENI ALL'ALBANIA, SPEZZEREMO LE RENI ANCHE ALLA GRECIA!" THEREFORE QUICKLY ITALIAN ARMY CONSTRUCTED THE AIRPORT OF TIRANA WHO HAD ALSO THE FASCIS SYMBOLS. THEREFORE IN WW2 THE SITUATION OF ALBANIA CAN'T BE GENERALIZED. A PART OF ALBANIANS CAME INTO ITALIAN FASCIS ARMY AND ALSO MY GANFATHER HAD UNDER HIM ALBANIANS SOLDIERS, BUT WERE ALSO ALBANIANS WHO WERE COMMUNIST PARTIZANS. THEREFORE ALBANIA OF THAT ERA WAS REALLY A COUNTRY DIVIDED IN TWO.

Tirana		29-Mar-2006 08:49
And i don't agree that Albania was an ally of Germany and Italy in the WW2. We fought them!!! Just as you did.

Tirana		29-Mar-2006 08:47
Ilir, Please don’t let your heart speak because feelings are so inconsistent and they change rapidly. Use your brain instead and the heart will follow. Tell me, in your opinion, were Albanians in general unsatisfied under Tito? What really changed with Milosevic? Pershendetje nga Shqiperia. Gjithe te mirat dhe shendet. Tung Alex, Thanks for your collaboration. Albanians and Serbs need to stay in touch instead of staying isolated even if Kosovo gets full independence. You know, maybe in a hundred years our children will make fun of us who argued about borders. We’ll all have the same nationality. I heard that Goran Bregovic was coming to Tirana in April. I don’t know if that’s just speculation. Pablo, Welcome to this site. I must admit that I was surprised when I learned that you were a Cuban. I was more surprised to learn that you came to Albania. When was that? Cuba is really an interesting country, drinks, cigars, music (Muevete), Che Guevara :). How’s Fidel? :) I make a big standing-ovation to Cubans who resist to american pressure because that can be the hardest pressure nowadays. How’s life like there? Almost everyone here blames the USA, but in my opinion they are a necessary equilibrium for the world today. If they weren’t there, I’m not sure that the WW3 wouldn’t have started in Yugoslavia. I know that sometimes they seek their only interest, but who would have acted differently? Stefan Serb did he REALLY went away? Hi there Stefan :)

Tirana		29-Mar-2006 08:45
Hello everybody, there is a sudden regain of interest for this site that comes partly (mostly) :) to my patriot Ilir. I read what had happened to you and your family and I am really sorry about that, but you know in general people don't care what happens to others until it comes to them. It's like this (of course there are exceptions) and I think it's mostly because I am Albanian that I care about you and other Albanians living in Kosovo. But on the other hand, comments about real life can sensitize people and make them think twice before acting. Apparently only some people in this forum do care about their lives and their children one's. The best example is the one that FR gave, about his father telling him what an Albanian was. Non-intentionally he made me think about how easily we can manipulate a child and make them live with someone else's thoughts. In fact you don't need to be very intelligent to understand that things are not just black and white. An Albanian may be bad or good and I should add that even those who are good people in general may act badly on some situations and vice-versa. This postulate applies also to Serbs and to all people in general. By his theory of general relativity Einstein showed so brilliantly that NOTHING is absolute. Let’s just analyze the phrase that your father told you : “An Albanian is someone who works for cheap”. So what does it mean exactly? All the people who work for cheap are Albanians? We should therefore consider that even a Serbian or Englishman who works for cheap is an Albanian. Or, on the other hand, that phrase can mean that all Albanians work for cheap. In this case what should we call an Albanian that doesn’t work for cheap? Is he a Serb, an American or a stateless person? Of course that I am schematizing but this analysis has the merit to prove that you can’t just put everyone in the same sack. Also you can’t defend the statement that Albanians are terrorists because, as I tried to show you, it means nothing. You know, it is very easy to hate someone because, in principle, we are all different and we know that in general we love things that are common, familiar. So there is no effort to make and understand someone else’s ideas. We stay closed in our little internal world and don’t care what’s going on in the outside. It’s loving, or at least not hating someone that is difficult because in this case you should consider their opinions, make concessions, and have the courage to admit that you were wrong. It’s the most difficult and that’s why there are always fewer people who love strangers and foreigners than people who hate them. And it is also non surprising that people who live in the middle of other cultures are generally more open minded than others. Fortunately we are all different so at least life isn’t boring. Fortunately we are all different so that we can appreciate things that we have. Fortunately it’s still not too late for making things change.

Alex Belgrade		29-Mar-2006 06:01
LATEST FROM KOSOVO A young Serb stabbed As B92 reports on March 28, 2006, in Kosovo, in the town of Mitrovica, two Albanians had stabbed Milisav Ilincic (age 19) in the north part of the divided town, which provoked Serbs to rally in protest. After the attack, the attackers had fled into the south part of the city, populated only by Albanians. Ilincic has been operated upon, and his injuries are life threatening, the doctors had said. He has sustained three stabbing wounds, and head injuries. He was stabbed as he talked to his girlfriend on the bridge. The attack revolted the Serbs who gathered in the north part of the town to protest. UNMIK has said that any movement on the bridge will be forbidden, in order to prevent conflict between Albanians and Serbs on the bridge which has happened before - a bridge which divides the town into two parts. At the time of the attack, members of the Kosovo Police Service and International Police were present on the bridge, but they did not react. Roma Population Facing Terror in Kosovo As B92 reports, a round table was held in which the Roma ethnic community have voiced their opinion regarding their status in Kosovo. They concluded that "constant terror" is being done by the Albanians against the Roma population. Roma have been expelled and most have found refuge in the central parts of Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia and elsewhere. In 1999 there were some 150,000 Roma in Kosovo. Today, there are 5 times less, about 20,000, and their position is worsening. From 1998 to 2000, Albanians have obducted or murdered 150 Roma. Kosovo, always a multiethnic community, has, thanks to the "KLA", become a community of "radical ethnic cleansing and genocide", which is bad for all communities, including Roma, a minority who has always been loyal to their country of residence, whatever that may be.

AGRON KELMENDI		29-Mar-2006 00:36
to serbs Two albanian drunks were driving down the road. The 1stdrunk looked over to the other drunk and says"I think we are getting closer to graqanica." The 2nd drunk says, "How can you tell?" 1st drunk says "We're hitting more and more serbs."

Alex Belgrade		28-Mar-2006 23:04
And here is more stuff that has been said about Serbs: Major Richard Felman, US Airforce (retired) died in 1999, at his speech given in Chicago, in 1994, on the 50th anniversary of D-Day / Normandy: QUOTE How do you say 'Thank You' to people who saved your life. Some people say to me, 'Why are you doing this after fifty years?' When somebody saves your life, what do you say -- 'Thank you, Charlie, I'll see you tomorrow?' When people thank me for doing a wonderful thing for the Serbs, I don't buy that. If it weren't for the Serbian people, I wouldn't be here. Today is the first time in fifty years that the American airmen and the Serbian Chetniks are Gathered in one place. This is a tremendous event. I wish I could communicate... . It's hard to transmit...I get all choked up, but...if these Chetniks hadn't risked their lives, the airmen you see in this room wouldn't be here...the airmen that they saved across the country wouldn't be here...neither would their children or their grandchildren, who today can walk freely in this country. They are living memorials of the Halyard Mission and the fact that the Serbian people saved them. They are walking in this country today because of General Mihailovich and the Serbian Chetniks. And to me today, in Daley Plaza, American honor was served. I say that, because today, for the first time in my memory, the American people could join us in a public forum to say "Thank You General Mihailovich and the Chetnik people for saving 500 American lives while we were fighting in defense of our country." Nobody else, in the entire history of the United States government has ever said that, and today the American people joined us in saying 'Thank You, and we appreciate it' END QUOTE To read a full text of his speech, visit: http://www.bannerofliberty.com/OS11-99MQC/11-24-1999.1.html

Alex Belgrade		28-Mar-2006 22:53
And here is what some other people said about Serbs, before Serbia was demonized in the 1990s: When the Serbian Flag Flew Over the White House On July 28, 1918, President Woodrow Wilson gave the following message to the American people. It was read in churches throughout the country and published in virtually all major newspapers. The Serbian flag was raised over the White House and all public buildings in this nation's capital. The message read: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To the People of the United States: On Sunday, 28th of this present month, will occur the fourth anniversary of the day when the gallant people of Serbia, rather than submit to the studied and ignoble exactions of a prearranged foe, were called upon by the war declaration of Austria-Hungry to defend their territory and their homes against an enemy bent on their destruction. Nobly did they respond. So valiantly and courageously did they oppose the forces of a country ten times greater in population and resources that it was only after they had thrice driven the Austrians back and Germany and Bulgaria had come to the aid of Austria that they were compelled to retreat into Albania. While their territory has been devastated and their homes despoiled, the spirit of the Serbian people has not been broken. Though overwhelmed by superior forces, their love of freedom remains unabated. Brutal force has left unaffected their firm determination to sacrifice everything for liberty and independence. It is fitting that the people of the United States, dedicated to the self-evident truth that is the right of the people of all nations, small as well as great, to live their own lives and choose their own Government, and remembering that the principles for which Serbia has so nobly fought and suffered are those for which the United States is fighting, should on the occasion of this anniversary manifest in an appropriate manner their war sympathy with this oppressed people who have so heroically resisted the aims of the Germanic nations to master the world. At the same time, we should not forget the kindred people of the Great Slavic race--the Poles, the Czechs and Jugo-Slavs, who, now dominated and oppressed by alien races yearn for independence and national unity. This can be done in a manner no more appropriate than in our churches. I, therefore, appeal to the people of the United States of all faiths and creeds to assemble in their several places of worship on Sunday July 28, for the purpose of giving expression to their sympathy with this subjugated people and their oppressed and dominated kindred in other lands, and to invoke the blessings of Almighty God upon them and upon the cause to which they are pledged. Woodrow Wilson, President, The White House, July, 1918.

Alex Belgrade		28-Mar-2006 22:51
Who cares what these people say about Serbs. It is a known fact that Holbrooke is receiving Albanian drug money. We are certainly more literate than Albanians.

PJETER TOPLICA		28-Mar-2006 22:16
to serbs some facts what other said about serbs Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleberger said, "Serbs are not too bright." Richard Holbrooke said Serbs are "Murderous assholes," and in his new book says, "Serbs are evil." Senator Biden said Serbs are "Illiterates and degenerates." Congressman Obey said Serbs are "Pigs," and political cartoonists drew Serbs as pigs turning over outhouses. This is not just shocking racial stereotyping, this is unbridled hatred based on assigning collective guilt to 10 million Serbian people.

Alex Belgrade		28-Mar-2006 22:13
Lee, Long live our allies America, England, France, Greece and Russia. May the West become wise and stop betraying its old friend, Serbia, who has fought bravely on the right side in both world wars. May the West stop supporting the primitive islamic hordes of Bosnia and Kosovo, who are tied to Osama Bin Laden. STOP ISLAMIC OPRESSION IN THE BALKANS NOW!!! WHAT HAPPENS TODAY TO EAST CHRISTIANS WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW TO WEST CHRISTIANS. The world should pull the plug on financing projects of a Greater Albania. If Serbia and Croatia were not alowed to have their versions of a Greater state, neither should Albania. Simple. If there is any justice in this world, if Krajina was given back to Croatia, so should Kosovo be given back to Serbia.

Alex Belgrade		28-Mar-2006 22:05
Chetnik, Good points! Good points! Good points! I agree with most of the things you wrote. Albanians are brave now, in mobs, and they attack elderly Serbs and their churches. But in the war they were not so brave. KLA did not beat the Yugoslav Army. Without the help of Nato, Albanian terror in Kosovo would be finished in 5 days. Albanians only "won" with the help of the USA. Lee, Yes man, don't forget Serbs were your allies in BOTH world wars. In 1941, the only country opposing Hitler was, apart from the UK, SERBIA. Colonel Draza Mihailovic of the Royal Yugoslav Army, refused to surrender and in the mountain of Ravna Gora in Serbia, he had organized the FIRST anti Nazi guerrilla movement in Europe, Tito's resistance came later on - as Stalin and Hitler had made a pact, so Tito had to wait for that pact to be broken, to start his uprising. The Resistance in France and elsewhere came later. Serbs fought on the right side in both world wars. Colonel Mihailovich was awarded the War Cross by Charles de Gaulle, and Legion of Merit by US President Truman - the highest award America can give to a foreigner, for rescuing 500 US airmen from being captured by the Nazis. Mihailovic's movement was made up primarily of Serbian nationalists and Tito's movement was Yugoslav -partisan - communist. In BOTH resistance movements, Serbs made the absolute majority, and they unfortunately also fought between themselves. Slovenes and Croats do not have the mentality of fighting invaders. Without Serbs, no resistance to Nazis would have been possible. And Albanians, Croats, Bosnian Muslims, all served the Nazis and killed Serbs - hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Serbs. We will never forget. In those two world wars, in those moments of great upheavals and turmoil, Serbs have clearly shown which side they belong on - the side of righteousness, freedom, honor, as was the case in 1389, 1914... and, later, 1999. Other peoples who sat there quietly and did nothing to stop Hitler, or worse, peoples like Albanians and Croats who HELPED Hitler in his monstrous plans, those peoples have shown where they belong and what they were made of - to shine other people's boots. Clear and simple.

lee coleman .		28-Mar-2006 21:22
ww2 had a profound effect on england , its ideaologys , its culture and its peoples ...just like germany we have never forgotten our allies ,, its a simple fact that albanians ran with the nazis as did the croats . i am not pro serb or anti albanian but history stands as our witness .

Chetnik		28-Mar-2006 19:24
Hey dickheads, listen up. You Albanians, you think you are strong? You are all short, weak and deformed. You are only strong in groups and you think you can flex your muscles at us Serbs now? I dare you to bring your mobs out of Kosovo where you don't make up the majority of the population and enter Serbia and we'll see who sets who on fire you idiotts. You think you are a real force to be reckonned with don't you? Burning the churches and killing old ladies and children. Well remember forever 1999. If I remember rightly as soon as your mobs started to start troubles and attack the civilians, and our formidable Vojska enterd Kosovo, in under 48 hours 2 million of you shqipars were absolutely slaughtered and ran for there lives into Albania and Macedonia crying to the cameras and begging for help. haahaha remember that you cowards?? you couldnt touch our army, I fought ther in kosovo and I must also tell you that we went into Albania under cover of night and destroy American helikopters Apache. We left undetected, better than that 'undetectable' usa's pl;ane we took down, serbs first and only peoples to do this lol you inferiors just talk, never do anything, reall pussies. This is why you waited 60 years until you make up 90% of Kosovo population before you try anything, ha ha carry on talking but you are a pussie deep down shqiptare shine my shoes NOW!

Alex Belgrade		28-Mar-2006 19:21
My God, so many Albanians here have polluted this forum. MARK POPAJ, I am VERY glad that Albania is returning to Christianity, even if it's Roman Catholic it's better than islam. Somehow, I do not think that is true. 400 mosques have been built in Kosovo since 1999, I have read somewhere. Albanians, why do you come here on this Serbian page? I try to promote peace and understanding, but it's not good. It is no good trying, because you have poisoned your hearts with hate - in the end it will turn against you. The key difference between Albanians and Serbs are as follows, and these are facts: 1. Most Albanians were islamized with the coming of the Turks. Most Serbs and Greeks were NOT islamised and they kept their faith. 2. I divide people into 2 groups - one: those who crawl and bow down to any master, and, two: those who die fighting for their freedom, no matter what the cost. Albanians lost their faith and served Hitler and they are the type of people who belong in category number 1. Serbs have said no to Turkey in 1389, the Habsburgs in 1914, Hitler in 1941, Stalin in 1948 and Clinton in 1999. Therefore, Serbs belong to category number two. Lee, You tell them, mate. The UK is does not care about Serbs, nor about Albanians. America cares even less, and those poor Albanians think America is their friend. Ha ha ha. I can't wait for the day when Albanians in Kosovo will turn against their "friends", and it will happen, more sooner, than later.

lee coleman .		28-Mar-2006 18:57
i didnt see albania in that list of minimum wages ? maybe they dont even have a minimum wage ? ....no joke . ilir dont tell all your mates to come on here and abuse people please its not cool or funny , i think you know better than that even tho you are angry , ive got so many questions to ask you ilir but ill wait till we meet up . mark please dont make the foolish mistake of using englands name to promote albania , just because the UK dropped bombs on serbia dosnt mean that they have taken sides with albania , nothing could be further from the truth . the UK cares NOTHING for albania or its problems or its people , for your own sake get that thru your head . we do however treat all people as equal if they are in our country and willing to earn an honest living . in england serbs and albanians work side by side or they must leave ,, those are our rules like it or leave it .

Vlad		28-Mar-2006 18:53
EVERYBODY KNOW THAT HASHIM TAQHI IS ONLY A MAPHIA BOSS. A FRIEND OF MY COUSIN IN ITALY WAS IN PEC, IN KOSOVO, IN THE KFOR FORCE. HE TALK THAT UCK CATCHED SERBS BY THEIR HOUSES TO SALE IT TO ALBANIANS AT IMPOSSIBLE PRICES. THAT'S THE SAME THING WHO DID MAPHIA IN SICILY IN YEARS 60. CERTAINLY IF SOMEONE AS AGIM GEKU OR JAVIER SOLANA SAY THAT IN KOSOVO WILL LIVE SERBS AND ALBANIANS IN PEACE, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE WITH A SHIT MAN AS HASHIM TAQHI IN THE LEADERSHIP OF KOSOVO. I DON'T THINK THAT AN INDEPENDENT KOSOVO WILL BE ALSO A GOOD SOLUTION FOR ALBANIANS, ALSO BECAUSE MANY OF THEM WERE TORTURED AND KILLED BY UCK ONLY FOR HAVE SERB FRIENDS. IS IMPOSSIBLE A PEACE IF WE USED DIFFERENT TREATMENT WITH ONE OR ANOTHER PEOPLE. HOE CAN SOLANA TO DREAM A GOOD KOSOVO IF HOW TALK THAT FRIEND OF MY COUSIN, SERBS ARE OBLIGATED TO LIVE CLOSED IN THEIR MONASTERIES UNDER ITALIAN MILITARY PROTECTION. THAT FRIEND OF MY COUSIN TALK THAT IF ITALIAN SOLDIERS DON'T GO EVERY DAY TO BUY FOR EAT AND TO ASSIST SANITARY SERBS, THE SERBS CAN'T COME OUT THEIR ENCLAVES. THE ITALIAN GENERAL CABIGIOSU, TALK THAT EVERY DAY UCK WHO DON'T ACCEPT TO GIVE ITS WEAPONS ATTACK ITALIAN SOLDIERS WITH GRENADES AND BAZOOKA, BECAUSE THEY ASSIST THE OLD SERBS AND THE SERB KIDS. THIS MEANING "EYE FOR EYE", AND IS IN MY OPINION A BAD BAD THING, WHO CAUSED ONLY DEATH AND BLOOD IN THE BEAUTIFUL REGION OF BALKANS.

FR		28-Mar-2006 17:23
ALBANIAN YOU SHOULD READ AGAIN MY COMMENTS ABOUT YOU AND YOUR FILTHY PEOPLE. Why are pigs? Filthy pigs, aljbania is pig-people country, you are the most ugly people in the world you have retardet faces, you stink, your women stink, they are hairy, you have the ugliest language in Europe, you are filthy muslim pigs, everyone in the Balkans hate you(and further more) you fuck like rabits, your mother is filthy shitty pig that got birth to 10 children, you are uneducated, stuped. Everything poor, filthy, undeveloped is asociated with you albanians. You run from Serbian forces, until Nato got involved, you allways run under serbian rule and militery and you will allways be weaker, and its becose you are stuped pigs in the body od humans. Im sorry maybe I insulted ANIMAL PIGS comparing you with them. One day when the world gets into serious conflict there will be nobody to protect you, then you gonna run once again and once and for all.

ILIR LIKA		28-Mar-2006 16:00
THIS FORUM SHOULD BE FROM NOW ON ALBANIAN AND SERBS CZ I TOLD TO MANY BROTHERS TO COME AT THIS FORUM ONLY FEW

ILIR LIKA		28-Mar-2006 15:55
PJETER RRNOFSH SA MALET E KOSOVES BRAVO BRAVO KEKE PATRIOT TE LUMT GOJA KE TE FALA NGA UNE ILIRI VDEKJE SERBVE I AGREE WITH PJETER AND ALL ALBANIAN WILL AGREE OUR DAY IS COMING FOR REVANGE TOWARDS SERBS VERY SOONI SAID BEAFORE GREAT ALBANIA WILL BE FOR SERBIA LIKE ISRAEL TO PALESTINE NOT NOW BUT VERY SOON REMEMBER THAT LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA

PJETER TOPLICA FROM GJAKOVA		28-Mar-2006 15:49
TO SERBS on 2004 March 17-19 in Kosovo resulted in 9 Serbs killed, 143 wounded, 15 missing, and 3,205 displaced. Hundreds of homes were destroyed, and 15 towns and villages ethnically cleansed. Most important of all for Serbian culture, 35 churches and monasteries were destroyed and 3 cemeteries desecrated ha ha ha good i am the most happy man in the world Albanian patriots were armed with machine guns, AK-47's, pistols, rifles, and hand grenades, not to mention rocks and improvised cluster bombs (Molotov cocktails filled with nails). An informed source claims that four of the Serbs killed had been shot by illegal "dum-dum" bullets that fragment within the body, causing an excruciatingly painful death ha ha ha ha Others were knifed or burned alive by the rampaging mobs made up of Albanian men from their early teens into their 80s. ha ha ha is it good like that LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA

PJETER TOPLICA FROM GJAKOVA		28-Mar-2006 15:30
to serbs my opinion The Serbian population of Kosovo should be removed as soon as possible . . . All indigenous Serbs should be qualified as colonists and as such, via the Albanian and american governments, be sent to concentration camps in Albania. Serbian settlers should be killed." Similar sentiments were expressed by a Kosovo Albanian leader, Hashim Thaqi "time has come to exterminate the Serbs . . . there will be no Serbs under the Kosovo sun.

ILIR LIKA		28-Mar-2006 15:17
Country local currency euros Date effective Belgium 1,234.21 01.06.2005 Bulgaria 160 leva 81.80 01.01.2006 Croatia 2080 kunas 282.23 01.01.2005 Cyprus‡ 362 Cyprus pounds 631.44 01.04.2005 Czech Republic 7,660 koruny 263.93 01.01.2006 Estonia 3,000 kroons 191.73 01.01.2006 France 1,217.88†† 01.07.2005 Greece† 589.47* 01.09.2005 Hungary 62,500 forints 247.26 01.01.2006 Ireland 1,326.00 01.05.2005 Latvia 90 lats 128.06 01.01.2006 Lithuania 550 litai 159.29 01.07.2005 Luxembourg 1,503.42# 01.10.2005 Malta 241.24 lira 561.91 01.01.2005 Moldova 440 lei 28.98 01.02.2004 Netherlands 1,272.60 01.01.2006 Poland 899 zlotys 233.01 01.01.2006 Portugal† 385.90 01.01.2006 Romania 338.00 new lei 97.07 01.01.2006 Russian Federation 800 rubles 23.48 01.09.2005 Serbia 7,106.67 new dinars EURO 82.96 01.07.2005 JUST LOOK HOW MUCH SERBS THEY GET PAY HA HA HA EVEN CLEANER IN KOSOVA GET MORE MONEY THAN SOME PEOPLE WITH CUALIFICATION IN SERBIA Slovakia 6,900 koruny 182.14 01.10.2005 Slovenia 122,600 tolars 511.87 01.08.2005 Spain† 540.90 01.01.2006 Turkey 530.73 new lira 332.26 01.01.2006 Ukraine 332 hryvnias 55.58 01.09.2005 United Kingdom 875.33 pounds sterling 1,272.28 01.10.2005 NOTES:

ILIR LIKA		28-Mar-2006 15:10
TO ELIAS DEATH TO GREEKS DEATH TO GREEKS MOST RACIST COUNTRY IN THE EUROPE YOU ARE FILTHY GREEK PEOPLE ALBANIAN TEACH YOU TO EAT AND TO LIVE YOU MOTHER FUCKER JURING ROMAN EMPIRE ILLYRIAN (ALBANIAN)THEY DID HELP YOU WITH A LOT THINGS THEY SAVE YOU FROM ROMANS ETC ""GREAT ALEXANDER"" IS ALBANIAN THE TRUTH IS COMING AND MANY WESTERNS THEY KNOW NOW GREAT ALEXANDER WAS ALBANIAN I MEAN HIS FATHER WAS ALBANIAN AND HIS MOTHER WAS GREEK SO HE WAS ALBANIAN THAN HE BORN IN MACEDONIA WHICH IS NOW COUNTRY MACEDONIA AT THE TIME THEY WERE ILLYRIAN TRIBES AND HALF BULGARIAN GREEKS THEY WERE DOWN DOWN SOUTH IN ASIA ISTABUL AND BY COAST BUT PROPAGANDA MADE LIKE GREAT ALEXANDER WAS GREEK BUT IS NOT TRUE LIKE SERBS SOMETIME USED TO SAY SCANDERBEG WAS SERB HA HA HA YOU BOTH GREEKS AND SERBS ARE REALLY LIKE BROTHER AND SISTER SAME MENTALITY SAME SHIT FILTHY DEATH TO SERBS AND GREEKS LONG LIVE GREAT ALBANIA

ILIR LIKA		28-Mar-2006 14:54
to elias you fucking gay ,i never have been to greece but is true what mark said i heard from some friends they been there they told me every second greek man is a gay blody hell i was suprise and my friends they told me if you want to fuck greek womens go to greece cz they are mad about albanian mans and is true cz you are 70% gay yes mark is right you filthy greek man i would not speak with you about politics what mark said that i support death to greeks and serbs MARK QA BONE A JE MIR TE FALA KE NGA UNE DITEN E MIRE QIJA NANEN GREKVE DHE SERBVE RAC MUTI

Elias		28-Mar-2006 13:32
MARK POPAJ from FERIZAJ you will feel a lot better if you improove your english!If u hate greeks so much then why are you all in Greece beggining for licence and work and not going back to your shit filthy country?

Guest		28-Mar-2006 11:41
Some more info on monthly gross statutory minimum wage rates in euros for a bigger group of countries, available fromhttp://www.fedee.com/minwage.html Belgium 1,234.21 as of 01.06.2005 Bulgaria 81.80 as of 01.01.2006 Croatia 282.23 as of 01.01.2005 Cyprus 631.44 as of 01.04.2005 Czech Republic 263.93 as of 01.01.2006 Estonia 191.73 as of 01.01.2006 France 1,217.88 as of 01.07.2005 Greece 589.47 as of 01.09.2005 Hungary 247.26 as of 01.01.2006 Ireland 1,326.00 as of 01.05.2005 Latvia 128.06 as of 01.01.2006 Lithuania 159.29 as of 01.07.2005 Luxembourg 1,503.42 as of 01.10.2005 Malta 561.91 as of 01.01.2005 Moldova 28.98 as of 01.02.2004 Netherlands 1,272.60 as of 01.01.2006 Poland 233.01 as of 01.01.2006 Portugal 385.90 as of 01.01.2006 Romania 97.07 as of 01.01.2006 Russian Federation 23.48 as of 01.09.2005 Serbia 82.96 as of 01.07.2005 Slovakia 182.14 as of 01.10.2005 Slovenia 511.87 as of 01.08.2005 Spain 540.90 as of 01.01.2006 Turkey 332.26 as of 01.01.2006 Ukraine 55.58 as of 01.09.2005 United Kingdom 1,272.28 as of 01.10.2005

Guest		28-Mar-2006 11:27
Dear All, For all those who are interested in the official monthly minimum wages in some selected European countries see the following list: Belgium EUR 1,210 Bulgaria EUR 61.43 Czech Republic EUR 210.09 Estonia EUR 158.50 France EUR 1,286.09 Greece EUR 559.98 Hungary EUR 210.60 Latvia EUR 120.26 Lithuania EUR 144.81 Netherlands EUR 1,264.80 Poland EUR 189.98 Romania EUR 69.12 Slovakia EUR 162.41 Slovenia EUR 491.45 Spain EUR 490.80 Sourcehttp://www.eiro.eurofound.eu.int/2005/07/study/tn0507101s.html

Vlad		28-Mar-2006 10:23
IN MY OPINION ALL THAT HAPPENBED IN FORMER YUGOSLAVIA IS FAULT OF USA AND GERMANY, THAT'S ALL. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SERBS WERE SO STRONG AT THAT ERA. TITO WAS CROAT AND HIS FATHER WAS SLOVENIAN, NOT TO FORGET THAT MANY PARTIZANS WERE SLOVENIANS AND CROATIANS, WHO ALSO FOUGHT AGAINST SERBS OF DRAZA MIHAJLOVIC. TITO CREATED THE AUTONOM REGION OF VOJVODINA AND KOSOVO TO MAKE LESS STRONG SERBIA. WHEN TITO DIED, MANY CROATIANS HAD IN THEIR WINDOWS HIS POSTERS AND HIS PORTRAIT. I KNOW THAT IN FORMER YUGOSLAVIA, AFTER HIS DEATH TITO'S TESTMENT SAID THAT YUGOSLAVIA MUSTED HAVE FOR A YEAR A PRESIDENT FROM A RESPECTIVE REPUBLIK. ALSO ALBANIANS HAD THEIR LEADERS AS AZIM VLASI. THAT SHOW THAT BEFORE 1991, IN FORMER YUGOSLAVIA WAS PEACE AND STABILITY, AND I KNOW THAT WEREN'T GREAT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE PEOPLES WHO COMPOUNDED YUGOSLAVIA, THAT WAS ONLY A PRETESTUOUS INVENTION OF USA AND GERMANY TO JUSTIFY THEIR DARK POLITIC OF TERRORS IN BALKANS. USA ALSO WANTED TO DO THE SAME THING IN ALBANIA, WHERE THEY CAUSED THE CIVIL WAR OF 1992, FOR INSTAURING A FRIEND GOVERNMANT. ALSO IN ALBANIA THAY WANTED TO CREATED INSTABILITY FOR HAVE THE TOTAL CONTROL OF WEST BALKAN REGION. I'M A RADICAL OF RIGHT AND I BELIEVE IN AN INDEPENDENT AND IN A STRONG AND CHRISTIAN EUROPE WITHOUT USA. AN EUROPE WHO MUST BE ABLE TO BECOME STRONG AND IMPORTANT. THEREFORE I AGREE FOR EXAMPLE THE POLITIC OF GERMAN RADICAL RIGHT OF NPD WHO FIGHT TOGETHER US OF "NOUADREAPTA ROMANIA" (OUR RADICAL RIGHT PARTY) AGAISNT THE DARK PLAN OF USA AND ISRAEL TO INTEGRATE TURKEY IN EUROPE. VISIT OUR WEB SITE: WWW.NOUADREAPTA.ORG

ILIR LIKA		28-Mar-2006 09:12
TO SERBS SOME FACTS ABOUT KOSOVA AT PRESENT DAY WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING 01 http://kosovareport.blogspot.com/2005/11/montenegrin-premier-tells-serbia-to.html 02 http://www.argjiro.net/albi/red/?author=1&which_file=5 03 http://www.argjiro.net/albi/red/?author=1&which_file=3 04 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4788592.stm there are more website i can put it there

MARK POPAJ from FERIZAJ		28-Mar-2006 07:52
Proud to be Albanian i am Albanian i am real christian . The oldest christian nation in balkan are Albanian Nation. Even some albanian they call them self muslim they are in numbers now days . Because they know their ancestors they were ROMAN CATHOLICS . Now in kosova all albanians especially young generation they are calling them self we are christians . Thanks to USA AND ENGLAND they come over there . The bigest Catherdale in Balkan for Catholic they did start to build in PRISHTINA last year september 2005 . We Albanian are telling to world this is who we are and we were for thousand years ago . DONT LISTEN TO SERB PROPAGANDA AND GREEKS PROPAGANDA . So they know now all the world who aree serbs who are ALBANIANS . BY 2010 KOSOVA WILL UNITE WITH ALBANIA AND WILL BE GREAT ALBANIA THANK YOU BILL CLINTON THANK YOU TONI BLER THANK YOU GEORGE BUSH serbia by 2010 will look very small country without KOSOVA and montenegro remember that all of you bye bye DITEN E MIRE

MARK POPAJ from FERIZAJ		28-Mar-2006 07:34
Death to greeks Death to serbs i hate greeks more than any nation in the world . I will suck their blod like dracula and drink it. I hate greeks. Oh my god you people in this forum dont know how much i hate greeks Idont know even my self why i hate greeks to much . Even our kids young as 5 year old all ways we teach them your first enemy is greeks and serbs. If greeks,gypsis,jew,serbs,russian,turkish,arabs and blacks and asian are not in this earth . world will be in peace nobody will fight world would be a paradise

ILIR LIKA		28-Mar-2006 07:10
TO ALEX come on alex what are you saying KOSOVA juring YUGOSLAVIA was most criminallised place come on please dont say that lets talk like a man now like human being and lets talk the truth about YUGOSLAVIA yes yes they were criminals in KOSOVA juring YUGOSLAVIA thiefs .murders.gangs etc yes they were some albanian at teh time of tito i admit it that you shuold know that and everybody knows i mean whoe ever is my generation i born in 1970 i remmeber very well YUGOSLAVIA OF TITO on those day albanian in KOSOVA they were poor people they could not aford it to go even on sea side for holidays like serbs ,croats .slovenian they could aford it is true KOSOVA was poor MACEDONIA was poor BOSNIA was poor i dont know about CRNAGORA but i know about those parts of YUGOSLAVIA they were poor i mean poor can mean anthying poor could be people they did not have plenty food ,people could not have money to bay clothes ,people did not have water ,centarl heating, no schools farms no land actualy we did have all of those in YUGOSLAVIA but our wages were very low in southern parts of yugoslavioa and middle part like bosnia those people could not go in holidays or travell abroad could not bay cars or go night clubs young generations cz they could not aford it but rest of the thingd they did have it for life we were better than than romanian better than albanian in albania better than polish and slovaks and rest of comunist state so even those parts of yugoslavia were they were clasified as poor parts they were better than any other nation in eastern europe even in west europe yes my self personaly i come from a poor family but5 it dosent mean all albanian in ksova they wer poor yes they have good life and meybe better life than american and english people at those times but regarding criminals in YUGOSLAVIA at the times most of them they were in BELGRADE in ZAGREB IN SUBOTICA IN BORDER WITH HUNGARIA ETC in KOSOVA,MACEDONIA,MONTENEGRO crimes they were wery low yes in BOSNIA THERE WERE TO MUCH CRIMES BUT not south of YUGOSLAVIA even they were poor compare to you guys so pls ALEX dont make alabnian they wer like the most gangsters in YUGOSLAVIA CZ SERBS AND BOSNIAN THEY WERE MORE GANGSTERS IN YUGOSLAVIA AT THE TIME THIS IS TRUE ALBANIAN, CROATS ,MACEDONIAN ,VOJVODINA,CRNA GORA CRIMES THEY WERE VERY LOW ESPECIALY CRIMES IN SLOVENIA THER WERE NOT AT ALL THIS IS TRUE ALEX YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT IS UP TU YOU MOJ DRUGAR HAJT QAO

Alex Belgrade		28-Mar-2006 06:47
Ilir Lika, If Turkey invades Greece again, Serbia will help its Greek brothers! You have so much hate in your heart - first against the Serbs, now Greeks. You are a troubled man and I pitty for your soul. What has Albania contributed to the world except Mother Theresa? The Greeks gave us Socrates and many others, democracy, philosophy, mathematics, medicine, the Olympics. What have the Albanians given to the world, except cocaine? There are FAR more Albanians in Kosovo than there were as recently as 1999 and far FEWER Serbs, Romas and other non-Albanian people. In the past few years, Albania has driven out many Greeks who had lived in Albania apparently their entire lives. The population today of Albania is 95-98 % Albanian. Those figures would seem to indicate that you Albanians have difficulty allowing other peoples, faiths and cultures to live amongst you.

ILIR LIKA		28-Mar-2006 06:33
to ELIAS OR HLIAS at list you shut up you fucking filthy greeks 70%gays in greece rest of your race now is mix with arabs all of you look like arabs cz you are arabs you look darker than our gypsis and dirty than our gypsis even turkish they are more white than you and they are in asia old greek nation i mean 1000"S years ago they were all blond people now no way you can find a blond greek man ,do you know greeks for YUGOSLAVIA in 1960-1970-1980 they were like somalia today if you compare with usa even ALBANIA juring dictatior ENVER HOXHA they send food to your country in 1969 ther in greece at this year was very economic fall people could not have food to eat ALBANIAN goverment has to send a lot cows,flour,clothe etc. you know that very well ALBANIA help you in year 1969 half of yor country i mean west of greece is alabnian populatiom even today they speak albanian and they know they are albanian like JANINA,PREVEZA and somany parts of greece we albanian for greeks we are kings you greeks still got problem with TURKEY about CYPRES do you know and everybody knows rthat one day TURKEY they will invade greece i mean they will go in war with greek people than albanian they are stanbay they we are witing until TURKEY they will go in war with greeks not because we like turkish we hate them to but it will be more easy for us and we are going to sloughter you filthy greeks even at present day albanian emmigrants they are fucking you up in greece they are making rules in your city they are killing greeks gay people very often you fucking scare of us like ship is scare from wolf death to greeks smelly people I HATE SERBS AND I WILL HATE THEM BUT GREEKS I HATE MORE THAN SERBS EVEN TO ME PERSONALLY THEY DID NOT DO NOTHING CZ I AM FROM KOSOVA THEY DID TO MY ALBANIAN BROTHERS IN ALBANIA 100 YEARS AGO REVANGE IS COMING SOON FOR FILTHY GREEKS LONG LIVE GREAT ALBANIAN DEATH TO GREEKS AND SERBS

Alex Belgrade		28-Mar-2006 06:15
Now that we are again discussing Kosovo... Wonderfully translated Serbian epic poems about Kosovo, they will give you an idea of what Kosovo means to Serbs and how deeply it has been embedded in the Serbian national identity, collective spirit and memory - there are 9 epic poems translated, if you have some time I suggest you read them when you can. They are translated in the Shakespearean style of language. These poems have been created over the centuries by unknown authors, and written down and preserved, and carried from generation to generation. These epic poems are on many occassions not historically correct in terms of precise data - at often times they are exaggerated, that's why they are epic, but their value is still great - these poems were told from one generation to the next, or sang near the fire, with an instrument called GUSLE, and these poems had helped the Serbs preserve their faith and national identity for centuries of Turkish occupation. That is their biggest value. Enjoy. http://home.earthlink.net/~markdlew/SerbEpic/thefall.htm

Alex Belgrade		28-Mar-2006 05:55
Fatos Krasniqi, Yugoslavia was built by all of its territories including Kosovo, later known as the Autonomous Province of KOSOVO and Metohija, not Kosova - no such region as Kosova existed in Yugoslavia, but Kosovo did not by itself build the rest of Yugoslavia. Also, there was another process - all of the republics had for decades been pouring in money to Kosovo because it was the most underdeveloped region of Yugoslavia. Serbia gave the most because Kosovo was part of it - where do you think all those powerplants, roads, buidlings and state owned factories came from. Surely not only from the Albanian taxpayers' money? Also Slovenia and Croatia gave a lot of money for the development of Kosovo. I don't think Macedonia, Montenegro and Bosnia gave as much because they were poorer. In any case, it is also true that Kosovo was the most unstable and criminalized region of Yugoslavia - there are some places even Tito did not dare visit.Nothing has changed. Kosovo may have left Yugoslavia and Serbia - but it still remains the poorest and the most criminallized place. I think it's because Albanians were lazy people who did not like the responsibilities as Serbian and Yugoslav citizens, but they liked to utilise their rights, such as free social and health care. Perhaps if they did not have 10 members per family, they would be more prosperous. I mean, they should have heard of PLANNING a family. After all, 10 children per family is an average in Asia, but not Europe.

FR		27-Mar-2006 23:33
FATOS KRASNIQI 27-Mar-2006 23:03 "YES I AGREE WITH VLAD BUT YUGOSLAVIA WAS BUILT BY KOSOVA AND REST OF THE REPUBLICS" offcourse it build up yugoslavia, couse it WAS YUGOSLAVIA.

FATOS KRASNIQI		27-Mar-2006 23:03
YES I AGREE WITH VLAD BUT YUGOSLAVIA WAS BUILT BY KOSOVA AND REST OF THE REPUBLICS

Alex Belgrade		27-Mar-2006 22:35
Lee, You overexaggerate a bit. I don't know about ORGANIZED CRIME, I guess it exists in every country. I go to nightclubs and floating restaurants to have fun, I don't care who owns it. I've seen those muscle goons with short haircuts and big jeeps and guns - but that does not mean ALL of such objects are owned by them. Kopaonik is a beautiful mountain and a favorite ski resort - there was no conflict there, and many British tourists come there. This mountain is called "the jewel of Serbia". Zlatibor is another ski resort, but not as famous as Kopaonik. Kopaonik also has an excellent infrastructure - everything necessary - hotels, nightclubs, supermarkets, beauty parlors etc

lee coleman		27-Mar-2006 21:48
that was from lee .

Guest		27-Mar-2006 21:46
no one told me storys , i have been there my self and serb guys told me that those boats are mafia or this club or that bar is marfia etc etc , but im not sure if they were joking with me or not ,, we dont have mafia in uk ,, we got gangsters they control drugs and clubs etc but they are not mafia ,, im not insulting your city or country but everyone knows serbia and greece and italy , bulgeria ,are famous for heavy guys driving around in mercedes with black windows and ak47s ....ahh maybe not italy , but anyway i was just asking because i am curious

Elias Onoufriadis		27-Mar-2006 21:23
http://www.pbase.com/pavlec/belgrade_girls Check this out as well! BELGRADE RULES! the best chicks ever! DEATH TO ALL ALBANIANS

FR		27-Mar-2006 21:16
lee coleman someone told you very bas stories about Belgrade, I think here in Belgrade, Serbia, mafia and criminals are nothing comparing to UK, so the answer to your question is no, you can buy freely the floating house boats as you said. Kopaonik is a large touristic center so don't bother your self with those kind of questions.. No war happened in that region. Try to change some stereotipes about our country, mostly they were made up by your and many western countries, but thats past..

lee coleman		27-Mar-2006 19:11
ok fair enough , i have another question if i may , do these house boats on the river in belgrade ever come up for sale ? and is it true in your opinion that they are mafia controlled ? also ( another wierd one ) is the ski area of kopoanik a peacefull area , i mean was there any military action on this area during the conflicts ? like with albanians living there etc etc or is it a pure serb area . thanks for having patience with me .

Alex Belgrade		27-Mar-2006 18:23
Lee, I do not wish to discuss personal things about me - but a salary of 350 euros is not bad. However, people who get a job in a bank or a foreign company, they get more, but they also work more (practically all day). The most important thing to point out is that things are improving. Of course, things cannot improve over night. During the sanctions it was much much less money, so we have to take it one step at a time. Novi Sad had the Austro-Hungarian influence, it was not destroyed so many times as Belgrade, and it is smaller, so these are all the factors that contribute to it being more "modern", as you say. For me it's nice, but too small. I like big cities. If we had a city bigger than Belgrade, I would move there.

lee coleman .		27-Mar-2006 17:27
alex would it be to cheeky of me to ask what is your ocupation ? as you said your salary has gone from 50 to 350 ...im guessing maybe you are a teacher or something like this . and while we are on the subject i actually think novi sad is a bit more modern than belgrade in some ways , i have been to both citys at least 5 or 6 times .

Alex Belgrade		27-Mar-2006 16:38
Everyone, Can we put this forum back on track, and discuss the photo gallery of Belgrade, and perhaps share some experiences from visitors. Why has this forum turned into a place where everyone can insult everyone else? It's really strange that there is no moderator here.

Hlias Onoufriadis		27-Mar-2006 12:20
how come and except of Tirana the other filthy mother fuckers albanians speak english like butt fucked sluts from kosovo?!LEARN ENGLISH YOU ANIMALS ALBANIANAS BEFORE DYING ONCE AND FOR ALL.

Hlias Onoufriadis		27-Mar-2006 12:17
how come and except of Tirana the other filthy mother fuckers albanians speak english like butt fucked sluts from kosovo?!LEARN ENGLISH YOU ANIMALS ALBANIANAS BEFORE DYING ONCE AND FOR ALL.

Alex Belgrade		27-Mar-2006 12:06
Vlad, You are absolutely right. But, Yugoslavia is gone and we have to make the best of it. I personally see a lot of improvement in Belgrade - maybe not so much in the rest of Serbia, but in Belgrade life has improved. For example, when Milosevic fell in 2000, my salary was 50 euros. Now it's about 350 euros. Also, there are new buses in the streets, new layers of asphalt, many new business buildings - especially in New Belgrade, foreign mega markets, foreign banks, phasades are being rennovated as well as parks, police have new Peugeot cars instead of the old Zastava cars, we had no problems with electricity and heating - which was not the case during sanctions, the stores are full etc. Some bombed buildings have been reconstructed, some are waiting to be reconstructed. There is a lot of work and progress being done everywhere, and it's visible. Belgrade was put back on the map last year with many Euopean events that have happened - political, economic, cultural and sports. So, I am a general optimist and I think the situation will improve in the years to come. Belgrade mayor said the average salary in Belgrade in 2 years is expected to be 500 euros. I also think Novi Sad is making good progress, also Cacak, but I am not sure about Kragujevac, Bor, Nis etc. I think Serbia is moving in the right direction. I have many critics against the EU, but I want Serbia in the EU - and I want the entire Balkans in the EU, because then there will be no more wars and conflict, and we will all progress and leave peacefully in a united Europe. I wish peace to everybody and I want to see a melting of hostilities. Serbs are currently very upset about Kosovo - it is disappearing from us and Serbian history and civilization is disappearing from Kosovo, but one day we will have to deal with it - and my dream is to visit Gracanica and Gazimestan again and to drop on my knees and kiss the ground where Prince Lazar once stood. Now I don't think it's safe to go to Kosovo, but maybe one day, when we are all in the EU, I will once again go to this place, the most sacred place for Serbs. Serbia must have guarantees for its churches and its people who live in Kosovo. And I do not think Albanians are ready to give us such guarantees in writing. Until then, we will roar like a lion. People tell me I am emotional about Kosovo. Of course I am. I am FURIOUS at what is going on, I am frustrated at the behavior of the West. But, it will all come back to the West, times 50.

Vlad		27-Mar-2006 10:52
THE DEATH OF YUGOSLAVIA WAS WANTED BY USA AND GERMANY, BECAUSE THAT STAT HAD ECONOMICAL INDICATORS WHO SAMES WITH SOME STATES OF EU: SPAIN, PORTUGAL, GREECE, IRELAND. THE WAGES IN FORMER YUGOSLAVIA WAS ALMOST 450 EURO. CERTAINLY AFTER THE END OF COLD WAR YUGOSLAVIA, A STRONG YUGOSLAVIA, A COMMUNIST STATE IN THE CENTER OF EUROPE CAN BE REPRESENTD A DANGER FOR US AND GERMAN AIMS. USA WANTED TO EXTENDED ITS INFLUENCE IN THAT ZONE, AND GERMANY WANTED TO INVEST AND TO CREATED AN ECONOMICAL NEW-COLONIALISM IN THE ZONE WHO WERE UNDER GERMAN INFLUENCE IN THE PAST: SLOVENIA AND CROATIA. AS WE CAN TO SEE ALSO CZECHOSLOWAKIA DIED, AND WE KNOW THAT CZECH REPUBLIK IS NEAR GERMANY AND IT WAS ALWAYS UNDER GERMAN INFLUENCE. AFTER THE DEATH OF YUGOSLAVIA, THE TWO MOST DEVELOPED STATES: SLOVENIA AND CROATIA, LEAVE TO THE GOOD ECONOMICAL SITUATION OF TITO'S YUGOSLAVIA AND NOW BECOME TWO VERY WESTERN DEVELOPED COUNTRIES: IN SLOVENIA FOR EXAMPLE THE WAGES IS ALMOST THE SAME OF ITALY: 1200 EURO, IN ITALY 1400, BUT WHEN IN ITALY NOW IS AN ECONOMICAL CRISIS, IN SLOVENIA IS AN ECONOMICAL GROWTH OF 4%. ONLY SERBIA, WITH THE EMBARGO AND NATO'S BOMBS NOW IS POOR, WITH A WAGE OF 180-200 EURO, AND AN UNEMPLOYMENT OF 32%. AND IS A VERY UGLY THING BECAUSE SERBIA IN TITO'S ERA WAS VERY DEVELOPED: I REMEMBER BELGRADE OF TITO'S TIME: WAS FULL OF LIGHTS AND SYMBOLS OF DEVELOPMENT. NOW BELGRADE, I GO BACK IN SERBIA ONLY LAST YEAR AFTER 12 YEARS , IS STILL VERY BEAUTIFUL, AND CERTAINLY IS FULL OF LIFE EXPECIALLY IN THE NIGHT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY HASN'T THAT GOLD SHARM OF THE PAST. I'M SURE THAT SERBIA WHO LAST YEAR BEGIN A NEW DEAL WITH A GOOD ECONOMICAL GROWTH (5%), WILL GO BACK TO THAT PERIOD, BUT SERBIA IS AN EXAPLE OF USA ARROGANCE AND OF EU INDEFFERENCE. WAS VERY SAD FOR ME, AT THE STRIKES OF 1999 IN AN EUROPEAN CAPITOL, BELGRADE, TO SEE EUROPEAN OFFICIALS BE INDIFFERENT TO THAT CRIME AND FORGET OUR SERBIAN EUROPEAN BROTHERS WHO FOUGHT VERY MUCH IN THE PAST WITH US AND ANOTHER BALKAN PEOPLES, TO DEFEND WEST AND TOTALLY EUROPE. I LIVE IN TIMISOARA, BEAUTIFUL CITY OF WEST ROMANIA, VERY NEAR TO BELGRADE AN D SERBIAN BORDER. AI THAT TIME I THINKED TO THE SERB WHO WERE AS ME, WHO WERE STUDENTS, WHO WERE YOUNG, WHO LIKE TO PLAY FOOTBALL, AND WHO LIVE NEAR TO ME, WHO WERE OTHODOX LIKE ME, WHO WERE FULL OF ADOLESCENCE PASSIONS LIKE ME, AND THAT IN THAT MOMENTS, DIED OR IN EVERY CASE SUFFERED FOR AN ARROGANCE OF POWER FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD. WAS A GREAT SUFFERENCE FOR ME ALSO TO SEE MEN AS SOLANA WHO NOW IS AN EUROPEAN OFFICIAL, SUPPORTED THAT CRIMES, AND SUPPORTED ALSO CRIMES AS THE STRIKE OF SERBIAN TV IN BELGRADE WERE DIED MANY INNOCENT PEOPLES. ANDWE DON'T SPEAK ABOUT UNCIVILIZED COUNTRIES AS IRAQ OF AFGHANISTAN, BUT ABOUT AN EUROPEAN CIVILIZED COUNTRY AS SERBIA. THIS IS A DOUBLE CRIME. FRO KOSOVO: I SAW ALSO THE IMAGES WHO GAVE US ILIR, AND I WAS VERY SAD TO SEE THAT POOR BABY DIED NEAR HIS MOTHER, AND I WAS VERY SAD TO SAW THAT MAN WHO HAD THE HEAD DESTROYED. ALSO ALBANIANS OF KOSOVO ARE VICTIMS OF THESE UGLY AND BLOODY GEO-POLITICAL PLANS OF USA, BECAUSE IF USA IN RABUILLET GAVE TO SERB GOVERNAMENT AN ACCEPTABLE CONDITIONS, CERTAINLY IN KOSOVO NOW SERBS AND ALBANIANS WILL LIVED IN PEACE UNITED AS IN THE PAST. THE FACT THAT ALBANIANS WERE RECEIVED IN SERBIAN MONASTERIES UNDER THAT WAR, AND THE FACT THAT MOST OF THEM SHOW THEIR GRATITUDE TO THAT CHRISTIAN SYMBOLS, IS AN EXAPLE OF THE POSSIBILITY TO LIVE IN PEACE.

Alex Belgrade		27-Mar-2006 06:36
Ilir Lika, you say YOUR GOLD? Kosovo was ours - we did not take it from you - we fought the Byzantines and Turks when we came to the Balkans, and in 1912 Kosovo was part of Turkey, not Albania. How could we take away from you something that was not yours to begin with? Remember, until 1941, Serbs were the majority of Kosovo. But, you should know that Albanians prior to Turkish invasion were mostly Catholic and some were Orthodox - so they were Christians. Some Albanian Princes also participated at the Battle of Kosovo against Turks, and alongside Prince Lazar. There were also Christians from other places. Therefore Albanians should respect Gazimestan and the Serbian churches. Albanians should return to Christianity - their original faith. Did you know, when Albanians destroyed the ZOCISTE monastery, those who did it later went insane or died horrible deaths. Prior to the destruction, many Albanians used to come there. After they had seen that their people had started to die, the Albanians went in there and secretly started to rebuild the monastery, in hope for redemtion,, but secretly, for fear of the KLA, because as you know, KLA killed all Albanians who were loyal to Serbia. We (the Serbian state) built the mines and the powerplants. Kosovo is very wealthy underground - with metals and minerals - that is why America took it away. Not because America likes Albanians or is your friend as you say - but because corporate America wants to take control on every resource on this planet. Tito's Yugoslavia was the most developed Eastern European country, it had the fourth largest army in Europe and served as a balance of power during the Cold War. Now it's just turning into a bunch of small, colonized states, like Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia. As for Belgrade, it's a city of 2 million people - it has as much population as the entire Kosovo, and to claim that it's nice, but that it's ONLY nice because we took YOUR gold, that is ridiculous.

Vlad		26-Mar-2006 22:38
FORMER YUGOSLAVIA WAS A COUNTRY WITH VERY BEAUTIFUL CITIES: LUBIANA, ZAGREB, BELGRADE WHO NOW ARE THREE CAPITOLS, WERE ALSO IN THE PAST THREE DIFFERENT BUT BEAUTIFUL CAPITOLS IN A UNITED COUNTRY. LUBIANA HAVE AN AUSTRIAC ARCHITETURE, IS AND WAS THE MOST DEVELOPED OF ALL THREE IN MY OPINON, ZAGREB ALSO SAME AN AUSTRIAC CITY, WITH ITS GOTHIC CHURCHES, CERTAINLY IS LESS BEAUTIFUL THEN LUBIANA AND IN EVERY CASE REFLECT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SLOVENIA AND CROATIA: TWO DEVELOPED COUNTRIES BUT SLOVENIA MORE THAN CROATIA. BELGRADE IS BEAUTIFUL BUT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THAN THAT TWO, BECAUSE HAS DIFFERENT ARCHITETURE, HAS A BALKANIC SHARM, WITH ITS BEAUTIFUL OLD CENTER. THE REST: SARAJEVO, SKOPJE AND PODGORICA AREN'T BEAUTIFUL, ALSO BECAUSE HAVE TOO MUCH TURKISH INFLUENCE: TOO MUCH MOSQUES. I DON'T KNOW KOSOVO, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY HISTORICAL SYMBOLS OF CHRISTIAN CIVILIZATION: MONASTERIES AND CHURCHES, WHO MUST BE DEFENDED BY ALL PEOPLES WHO HAVE ANY SENSE. THEREFORE I WISH TO SERBS TO DON'T LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY AND TO BE PROUD OF THEIR CHRISTIAN SYMBOLS. WEST SOLDIERS MUST UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN A CHURCH IS DESTROYED A PART OF HUMAN DIGNITY LEAVE US. I WISH TO SERBS TO REMAIN THERE AND TO HONOUR THEIR SOVEREIGNS OF THE PAST AND TO DEFEND THE SYMBOLS OF THEIR HISTORY. IN THE WAR OF KOSOVO OF 1999, MANY ORTHODOX MONASTERIES ACCEPTED ALSO ALBANIANS WHO WANT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES BY THE BOMBS. THEREFORE ALL ALBANIANS WHO WAS RECEIVED THERE MUST ALSO THEM TO LOVE THAT MONASTERIES, AND I THINK THAT ALSO ALBANIANS MUST DEFEND THAT SYMBOLS OF CIVILIZATION AND PRICE AGAINST THE AGGRESSIONS OF UCK. THE FACT THAT THESE MONASTERIES RECEIVED ALSO ALBANIANS IN THAT TIME, SHOW THAT ALSO IN KOSOVO A PEACE IS POSSIBLE.

FR		26-Mar-2006 19:21
:)))) with your gold :)))) - thats the funnyest thing you ever sayd, I'm gonna send a tape to planet's funnyest animals on animal chanel, maybe I'll get 100$ and a t-shirt :)) pig bullshiting - you. What were you doing in Belgrade were you working in posLJastitjarnica or were you cutting gras, or building walls, cleaning the streets maybe? One time, a long time ago, i were a child, and we were cleaning the yard, and my father told me we should call some shiptars to clean it up, its too much work for the two of us, i asked who where shiptars, he told me, people who work for the cheapest price.. :)))

ILIR LIKA		26-Mar-2006 19:12
HI LEE ANY TIME MATE YOU LIKE WE CAN MEET NOT A PROBLEM MR LEE I AM NOT JEALOUS OF BELGRADE CITY YES IS NICE CITY I HAVE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES YES BELGRADE IS BEAUTIFUL CITY I SAY THAT AND IT IS TRUE CZ ALL YUGOSLAVIA INVEST IT THERE THEY BUILD CITY WITH OUR GOLD AND MINE FROM KOSOVA AND REST OF YUGOSLAVIA CZ THEY USED US ALBANIAN WE WORK FOR THEM YES IS NICE CITY I ADMIT THAT BUT I AM NOT A JEALOUS END OF THE DAY I AM FED UP WITH CITY CZ I AM WILLAGE BOY TAKE CARE OF YOUR SELF MATE BYE BYE

FR!		26-Mar-2006 19:11
No more argue with you SHIPTAR cuz you write like a child, and its funny to read comments, you are to low on intelect for me to argue with you, ali vidim da razumes i pises srpski sto je i normalno za siptara kao ti, nije ti dosta sto smo vam pojebali sve zivo i mrtvo, nego sada hoces i ja licno da ti se popisam po groblju najmilijih i po rodnoj dzamiji, sto bih vrlo rado uradio. AS MUCH FOR THE ALBANIANS WE'LL SEE WHEN THE RADIKAL PARTY GETS INTO GOVERMENT :)

ILIR LIKA		26-Mar-2006 19:00
to fr and chetnik yeah you brave man i am sorry if your sisters were fuck front and back from KLAor maybe KLA fuck your mothers and then kill them or maybe KLA kill some man of your family cz they were chetniks or maybe KLA ask you to kill your own sister or father or mother then now you are fuck up in your head i see thats what you hate albanian you blody serbs yeah i fucking hate you and hate will be in every albanian towards serbs all the time once a serb man get cought in kosova he will get sloughter like a pig yes we did have lost many peole juring the war but now we are having freedom in kosova you dont hear any more zdravo kume ,gde si bre kume ,kako ide , now you can hear only albanian every were you go police speak albanian cz all are albanian offical language is albanian signs in city are albanian signs in motroways and local roads are albanian everything si albanian it si so nice when i go in kosova in prishtina airport immigration they say welcome in kosova in albanian in our goverment building you see albanian flag every other place run by govermant you see albanian flag oh is so great at list we are not going to see the ugly flag blu and white with crose of chetniks any more in kosova KOSOVA is geting indepedent soon even those serbs are left in KOSOVA they all are 70year old people 80year old and older exept some young they are still in mitrovica but thee way they live in kosova my god thy live like in the LONDON ZOO they can not go out KFOR has to send to them shooping every day i mean food tthey dont have to pay bills like eletricity or others everything they got for free they eat junk food shit food 24 hour the day they stay inside their house and their neigbhour together next to their house KFOR protect them 24 hours a day there are cheek points so if you are albanian they wont let you go there cz they know even the kid if he can manage to go to their house they will burn a life BABA oh moje sine anyway now they are hundred you can count howmany serbs are left in kosova in their enclaves in next 5 year time we going to clean the last pigs(serbs) those old people some of them they will die some of them they will get burn down with their house cz KFOR can not look after them all the time yes this is how we treat the last pigs are left in kosova is so nice is it i love it when i see serbs get angry they lost for ever KOSOVA LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA I LOVE USA AND ENGLAND JA U QIFSHA NANEN NE PIDH DHE MOTRAT JUVE SERBVE RAC MAGJUPI KLA KLA KLA KLA KLA KLA THEY FUCK YOU UP HA HA HA HA

lee coleman		26-Mar-2006 18:40
ok ilir , i will give you a few days notice before to see if we can meet up at the parrot . FR i doubt ilir is jealous of belgrade as he lives in london .

FR		26-Mar-2006 18:32
This is a PICTURE GALLERY, dear Alex. Its about our lovely city Belgrade, so people that are jealous of its beauty started all this, cuz they are living in shit holes, or living abroad. This is not a place to make peace with somebody or to argue, but if somebody povokes my nation, and he/she comes from the most undeveloped county in Europe, I must react. I think you just take this too serious. As far as I am quired, we should just build a giant wall next to albanians, the same tipe that ISRAEL BUILD!

Alex Belgrade		26-Mar-2006 18:19
To Chetnik and FR, My dear Serbian brothers, I try so hard to make peace here, among all the Balkan peoples - because someday we will have to do it - why not start now, and then this happens. Can I please ask you not to provoke any more reactions from the Albanian side. People on all sides have died in the war. Every mother that has lost a son will cry, and her tears have no border, no religion, no nationality. Every child that has died is a terrible loss. I do not care if the child is Albanian or Serb or Croat or Bosnian etc. I am urging Albanians to restrain themselves this time, and I am urging my fellow Serbs to either provide arguments supported by facts, or not to provoke with insults. PLEASE. We will not get anywhere like this. Albanians will start insulting back and we will be back in hate. Let us all try to make peace, to repent for our sins and ask for forgiveness.

FR!!		26-Mar-2006 17:21
"WE MAY HAVE KILLED SOME CIVILIANS BUT NEVER WHEN WE DID COUGHT THEM A LIFE UNLES HE WAS A CHETNIK "DEATH TO SERB NATION"" How stuped this man is, oh my mistake he is an albanian (pig) They are destroying chirches and monasteries 800 years old, and they are so good to civil people, MY sustisfaction is that ALBANIAN PEOPLE WILL NEVER ABLE TO LIVE UNDER LAWS , couse they are pigs.. The only thing that they could do is sell drugs and sell they're own women in the western countries. Pigs are pigs.. I'm just not making it up, albanians are ugliest filthiest and the most stuped nation in Europe, grose

FR!		26-Mar-2006 17:13
Shiptar albanians are pigs... Its a know fact, so ilirika don't say anything about that fact. Another thing, you just wish to fuck a serbian girl cuz your albanian girl are very ugly and they stink, its the XXI century, they still don't shave some body parts.. OK you are pigs, its not a bad thing to be, but why can't you be at least clean? or above 70iq? And why do you all albanians have the retarded face? Anyone can spot an albanian in a crowd... You are ugly filthy poor stuped, and thats true. And Kosovo will never get full indipendace and you know it, or can you understand it, my god you are SHIPTAR... Like amish people are to USA, albanians are to the Balkan peninsula... pigs, I piss on your house and your mosque, you filthy muslim

Chetnik		26-Mar-2006 15:52
Her Ilir Lika, Those pictures of massacred people on Albanian side I can guarantee you were not killed by Serbs, but instead by Albanian terrorists, perhaps this family refused to partake in a terrorist act and was killed to show to the World that Serbs did it, or maybe because they were actually from a 'Goranac' family (Albanian Christian). This is the same thing that happened to Pristina stadium which was firebombed by Shqiptare terrorist KLA to pretend Serbs did it. As did the Croats when they shelled Mostar and destroyed the bridge and it was both later sicovered that it was not Serbs. You KLA are a terrorist group and you are comparing yourself to what was in 1990's the Third Army on the planet? Don't make me laugh, you are a mickey mouse force, you only fought against civilians, burnt houses and churches, and killed old women and children who could not defend themselves. You KLA were shit, we crushed you in a couple of hours after sending the Vojska in to Kosovo, you had to flee into Albania and Macedonia and you think you defeated us? Nobody defeated us, we are still not destroyed, not even Nato dared to send troops in to Kosovo because they knew it would be Vietnam times 50. Fuck you Albanian, trying to be nice now, you are known as scums and dirty people of the world, Britain and America wanted to crush Serbia that is why they backed you, not because they like you, naive dickhead.

Alex Belgrade		26-Mar-2006 15:35
Ilir Lika, See, that was not so difficult, was it? I know that we CAN TRY and communicate. It takes courage to say what you said, and it takes a lot of guts and patience to make that first step towards forgiveness and reconciliation. We will have to start somewhere, one day. Why not do it today? It can start with an apology, perhaps with a smile or handshake. Hate will destroy us all in the end - it will make our hearts like stone and light will not shine upon our souls. Once again I apologise to all Croats, Bosnians, Kosovo Albanians who have suffered under Milosevic. I also would like someone from Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo and someone from Nato to apologize for what they have done to Serbs. Serbs were also victims of the war as were others. In all fairness, we should not blame it all on Milosevic. There were people like Tudjman, Izetbegovic, Tachi etc. You are right, the Balkans are like a barrel filled with gunpowder - and just a spark can start another conflict. Serbia is a democracy now and we will respect whatever Montenegro decides - there will be no more war. As for Kosovo, we can't just give it away on a plate, you understand that. We have to try and get as much as we can out of the situation, for the Serbs there and their churches. There will be no war, as far as Serbia is concerned, but we have the right to fight politically for what we can. One day we will all be in the European Union, without strict borders, and we will have a good life, high standard of living and we will travel and enjoy life. Then wars will not happen. This will all be a thing of the past. On a global scale, I see a conflict between the West and Islam - and vice versa, but that is something we can't influence. I know some nationalists like Stefan Serb would not approve of me doing this, but I want to offer a genuine peace treaty to everyone here, and to extend my handshake. That does not mean we are friends yet - it will take time, but it means that at least we are not enemies. We are just human beings trying to make the best of it for ourselves and the people we love. May war never happen again in the Balkans, and everywhere else. Peace to all and let us all repent for our sins and ask for forgiveness.

ILIR LIKA		26-Mar-2006 12:25
to alex alex you seem to me a good serb man a intelgent man the way you talking but hate betwen us will go on for another century my generation and your generation we will hate each other even our kids they will hate each other maybe our grandchildren yes they will start to coperate together somehow but still i am afraid balkan is a hot spot you never know whta can happend in 10 year time or 20 year or more we may have war again serbs and albanian maybe serbs and croats maybe in europe will come another hitler to clean the race in europe which i think it will happend the things i can see now in england and some parts of europe hate against african people and muslim people is geting worse and worse but balkan "BALKAN BURE" is like place were the wars all the time starts like ww1 and someny civil wars even the world knows especialy USA know BALKAN IS LIKE A PETROL IT CAN EXPLODE ANY TIME so thats way i got hate on my heart when i think one day again we may fight against serbs even if i dont want my self or dont like it the hate i put out of my self i say cz i am angry with miloshevich and some serbs what they did to us i apology to you but only to you what i said to you beafore i swear etc i am sorry yes i agree with you some albanian extremist they burn down some serb churches in kosova is really bad those churches are house of god they who ever did it from albanian i hate them to my self cz is not good to do that even my self i am a muslim and somebody will give to me a lot money i would not do that go burn serb churches dont worry alex who ever did they will get punish by god those who did it are albanian huligans they are bandits cz a reall albanian would not do that yes i am sorry for your chuches bad the way i dont feel a muslim cz my grand grand father was roman catholic and i hate turks cz they change our religion by force they make us hate each other

Vlad		26-Mar-2006 12:02
ILIR, THANKS FOR THE BEAUTIFUL WORDS. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU ALSO HATE ARABS AND TURKS, THIS SHOW YOUR CHRISTIAN PAST WITH SKANDEMBERG WHO WAS CHRISTIAN. MY PRECEDENT COMMENT WAS BECAUSE I CAN'T ACCEPT TO SEE CHURCH IN FIRE AND I'M VERY ANGRY FOR THE DEATH OF THAT SERBIAN TEENAGER LIKE MANY OTHERS LIKE HIM. BUT ALSO YOU ALBANIANS KNEW THE SAME ATROCITIES AND THEREFORE WE CAN TO ARRIVE TO AN ONLY CONCLUSION: THAT WAR WAS A GREAT MISTAKE. I KNOW THAT YOU ALSO SUFFERED FOR YOUR PAST, AND CERTAINLY I RESPECT THE SUFFERANCE OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, BUT NOW IS THE MOMENT TO CHANGE PAGE, TO GO ON. FOR OUR EUROPE IS IMPOSSIBLE TO LIVE IN PEACE AND PROSPERITY WITH THIS RANCOUR. I UNDERSTAND THAT IS VERY DIFFICOULTS, BUT IS POSSIBLE. IN BALKANS IS HAPPENED THE SAME THING WHO HAPPENED IN THE CENTRAL EUROPE IN WW2. BUT AFTER THAT PERIOD, GERMANY BECAME A PEACIFIC AND A PROSPEROUS COUNTRY. SO, ALSO IN BALKANS MUST HAPPEN THE SAME THING IF IN THIS REGION WE WANT TO SHOW OUR CIVILITY. DEAR ILIR, LEAVE FROM THE POINT THAT YOU KNEW THAT MAN SINISA, WHO WAS SERB BUT HELP YOU. THIS SHOW THAT SERBS ARE PEOPLES AND MEAN LIKE EVERYBODY, WITH GOOD PERSONS AND BAD PERSONS. CERTAINLY THE SAME THING IS FOR ALBANIANS WHO HAVE BAD PERSONS AS HASHIM TACHI AND GOOD PERSONS LIKE MOTHER THERESA, WHO WAS A SYMBOL OF THE CHRISTIAN CIVILIZATION OF EUROPE. I WISH YOU TO CANCEL THIS HATE AGAINST SERBS AND I WISH TO SERBS TO CANCEL THEIR HATE AGAINST ALBANIANS. ONLY ON THIS WAY EUROPE CAN BECOME THE HEATH OF THE WORLD, ONLY ON THIS WAY WE CAN DEFEAT ISLAMMIC AGGRESSION AND AMERICAN ARROGANCE. ANOTHER POINT: WHAT I WISH TO ALBANIAN PEOPLES IS TO RETAKE THEIR ORIGINAL RELIGION WHO WAS CHRISTIAN CHATOLICISM, ONLY ON THIS WAY THEIR CAN TO BE 100% FREEDOM BY A RELIGION (ISLAM) WHO WAS GAVE THEM BY VIOLENCE. ONLY ON THIS WAY ALBANIANS CAN REALIZED THE DREAM OF SKANDEMBERG, A FREE ALBANIA. CERTAINLY IT'S POSSIBLE WITH THE DIALOGUE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORDERS SERBS, GREEKS, MAKEDONIANS, MONTENEGRINIANS ETC... SEE YOU AS SOON.

Alex Belgrade		26-Mar-2006 08:42
I apologise, in the previous message, it was supposed to be intended for Ilir Lika, and I wrote Alex Belgrade.

Alex Belgrade		26-Mar-2006 08:41
Alex Belgrade, Those pictures are terrifying and I am very sorry about those people. But, the same kinds of massacres had happened to Serbs in Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia. Needless to say, the war in Yugoslavia started when Slovenia replaced Yugoslavia's border signs with Slovenian border signs. At the time, Yugoslavia was still the only recognized entity. Croatia was illegally armed. Both Slovenia and Croatia, and later Bosnia declared secession from Yugoslavia without taking into account the desire of the biggest nation in Yugoslavia - Serbs. The first victims of the Bosnian war were a Serbian family at a wedding procession. So, it is not true that the wars started because Serbs just woke up one day and wanted a greater Serbia. Milosevic tried to preserve Yugoslavia. Only later did he wish to unite all Serbs in one country, but that itself was not the cause of the wars in Yugoslavia. As for the war in Kosovo, needless to say, Albanian separatism had been present for 60 years at least (the concept of Greater Albania emerged earlier, in 1878 at the Prizren League), violent demonstrations grew into terrorism and Serbia had intervened. Unfortunately, many civillians were also killed but not as many as the world had accused Serbia of. A Spanish forensic expert had said that upto 2,500 people on all sides have died in Kosovo, while the Wikipedia encyclopedia puts the figure at 12.000 people. That is far less than the figure of 100.000 dead Albanians, which was a reason for bombing Serbia by Nato. While the Racak incident was never fully investigated and published, Serbia was accused of killing 45 Albanians, and that was the initial cause of the bombings. However, nobody mentioned the massacre of Serbs in Klecka. The fact is - the West had taken sides throughout the wars in the former Yugoslavia. The conflicts in the Balkans have been going on for centuries, off and on, and taking sides was wrong, especially supporting the Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo. America attacked Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran in pursuit of terrorists, but then supported the Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo. Double standards and no logic.

Alex Belgrade		26-Mar-2006 08:28
Ilir Lika, War is a regrettable thing. People die in wars on all sides. Like I said before, I am sorry for everything that happened to you and your people. Of course there were also massacres of Serbs - committed by the KLA, Bosnian Muslims and Croats. But, what the Albanians have done to Serbs since 1999 was done at a time of PEACE, not war. But, unlike you, who hates Serbs - I do not hate Albanians. You seem to hate every Serb and would slaughter every Serb. I do not feel like that with Albanians. I hate what you are doing to Kosovo, but I would not kill anybody. That is the difference between you and me.

ILIR LIKA		26-Mar-2006 06:34
TO VLAD AND TO CHETNIKS SEE SOME PICTURE OF SERB MASSACRES IN KOSOVA THEN WE CAN SAY WHO ARE MORE CIVILISED NATION O1 http://www.alb-net.com/warcrimes-img/abri.htm 02 http://www.alb-net.com/warcrimes-img/lybeniq.htm 03 http://hrw.org/campaigns/kosovo98/photo/dolobr.htm i can give to you more website to wach what serbs did to us but i cant you can find your self cz when i see those photos i get more angry on serbs i just say i wish i had a serb man now with me i would sloughter him like a lamb NO COMENT JUST WACH THOSE AND TELL ME NO ALBANIAN MAN OR KLA WOULD DO THAT JURING THE WAR KILLING INOCENT PEOPLE OR KIDS LIKE SERBS DID TO US YES WE DID KILL CHETNIKS BUT NOT SERB CIVILIANS BECAUSE I WAS KLA MY SELF AND I KNOW THE FACTS SOMETIME WHEN WE DID BOMBARDED SERB WILLAGES CZ THERE WERE SERB PARAMILITARYS AND SERB ARMY WE MAY HAVE KILLED SOME CIVILIANS BUT NEVER WHEN WE DID COUGHT THEM A LIFE UNLES HE WAS A CHETNIK "DEATH TO SERB NATION"

ILIR LIKA		26-Mar-2006 05:51
to VLAD I SAW WHT YOU DID WROTE ABOUT MUSLIMS WHO CARES END OF THE DAY I DONT GIVE A SHIT EVEN MY SELF FOR ONE EUROPEAN CHRISTIAN OR ANY EUROPAN EXEPT SERBS I WOULD KILL 100000 ARABS AND TURKS CZ THEY ARE SHIT PEOPLE WAR IN KOSOVA IS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEHEADED SERBS THEY BEHEADED MANY ALBANIAN EVEN CHILDREN YOUNG AS 1 YEAR OLD THEY STABED PREGNANT WOMEN ALL WORLD KNOWS WHAT SERBS DID IN KOSOVA,BOSNIA,CROATIA I AM NOT SAYING ALBANIAN THEY DID NOT BEHEADED SERBS YES THEY DID EVEN BOSNIAN THEY DID EVEN CROATS THEY DID BUT SERBS THEY DID HUNDRED TIMES MORE THAN ANY BODY ELSE THEY BEHEADED ALBANIAN LIKE I DONT KNOW WHO ELESE WOULD DO THAT TO HUMAN BEING IN YUGOSLAVIA WAR WAS VERY BAD EVERY WERE IN CROATIA BOSNAIA KOSOVA THERE WERE TO MUCH MASSACRE AGAINST EACH OTHERS SO VLAD YOU DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YUGOSLAVIA I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR ROMANIAN PEOPLE AND I LIKE ROMANIAN PEOPLE THEY ARE GOOD NATION YOU PEOPLE FOUGHT TURKISH EMPIRE VERY WELL YOU DID KILL TURKISH SOLDIER LIKE RABITS YES THATS WHY I LIKE ROMANIAN PEOPLE DONT TRUST SERBS CZ THEY ARE PEOPLE THEY THINK THEY ARE THE BEST THEY STAB YOU ON THE BACK STAY IN OUR SIDE MATE CZ YOU ARE MORE CLOSE WITH BLOD TO ALBANIAN THEN SERBS YOU ARE COUSINE WITH ALBANIAN WE USE TO BE THOUSAND AND THOUSAND YEARS AGO ONE NATION ROMANIAN THEY ARE THE VERY CLOSE TO US ALBANIAN WE LIKE YOU ROMANIAN ARE THE OLDEST PEOPLE TWO IN BALKAN ROMANIAN WHEN THEY EAT WITH SPOON LIKE ALBANIAN SERBS USE TO COME IN BALKAN IN GYPSY WAY WE FEED THEM WE GIVE THEM LAND EVEN ROMANIA GOT SOME LAND IN SERBIA EVEN TODAY SO LOOK SERBS NOW HOW THEY BEHAVE LIKE CIVILIZED NATION GYPSI CANT BE A CIVILIZED NATION COME ON VLAD I WISH YOU THE BEST IN YOUR LIFE AND I HOPE SOON ROMANIA AND ALBANIA WILL GO IN EU FUCK SERBS

Alex Belgrade		26-Mar-2006 00:09
Ilir Lika, You really have some serious issues, man. Unfortunately, we do not run a psychiatric institution here. You are such a sad case. You say you Albanians have a good life now. Ha ha ha. I can bet you that - inspite of everything Serbia has been through, we still live a better life than you guys.

Alex Belgrade		26-Mar-2006 00:03
Vlad, I do not wish to burn all mosques in the world. I just wish Islam to stay where it is, not to take over countries that are Christian. Pablo, Well said! You are a wise man, Pablo.

Alex Belgrade		26-Mar-2006 00:02
Vlad, I do not wish to burn all mosques in the world. I just wish Islam to stay where it is, not to take over countries that are Christian. Pablo, Well said! You are a wise man, Pablo.

Pablo		25-Mar-2006 23:06
Ilir Lika, it is people like you (and Stefan from the Serbian side) that have made the history of your region so bloody. It is my hope for your region that peole like Tirana and Alex become the leaders of your countries so that their is hope for real future peace and understanding! I understand hating a government of a country, i hate the American govenment, they have had an embargo on Cuba for 45 years for no reason, they have attacked us non-stop in this time, and every cuban has suffered because of it. But i DO NOT hate Americans in general. Their is a big difference between hating a countries government, and its people.

Vlad		25-Mar-2006 20:09
FOR AN EUROPEAN CHRISTIAN KILLED WE WANT THE DEATH OF 10000 ISLAMICS.

Vlad		25-Mar-2006 20:07
I SAW THE ARTICLE OF ALEX, LAST YEAR MINE SERBIAN FRIENDS TALK ME ABUT SERBIAN TEENAGER BEHEADED IN KOSOVO BUT I CAN'T BELOVE THAT. NOW THESE PICTURES MAKE ME FULL OF ANGRY. MY DREAM IS TO SEE ALL MOSQUES OF THE WORLD IN FIRE AND TO SEE THE HEAD OF TACHI IN THE HANDS OF SESELJ. IN THIS TIME IT'S THE MOMENT FOR OUR EUROPEAN CHRISTIANS TO TAKE THE WEAPONS, AND TO DRINK ISLAMIC BLOOD. ONLY WITH THE PRIDE OF THE PAST WE CAN DEFEAT ISLAM. GOD BLESS THAT EENAGER DIED IN THAT PUB, AND I HOPE IN NEXT FUTUR AN ISLAMIC HOLOCAUST.

ILIR LIKA		25-Mar-2006 17:10
to FR i think you are a pig and the way you talk like a chetnik i like serb people like you cz all the time you talk like that i know you are a looser maybe you are a serb refuge from kosova and yor sisiter suck my cock in kosova while was the war and after the war matbe my neighbour took your house and bought it for nothing yes i can see anger on you and i am so happy albanian they are for you now in present day like a god to you any albanian in kosova even the poorest one can come to belgrade or any part of serbia and fuck ur sisiter for 2 euro cz you people are having hard life in the 21century we albanian we had hard life in 20 century but at list we are having a good life now you mr fr o would like to have serb people in kosova like that you know what i would to him i would suck his blod like dracula to GUEST who ever he is can i have your sister for a night i would give my cock to her in mouth then cut her throat and send her to you by rubish bag to serbia come to kosova now you brave serb chetnik ha ha ha fuck your self you blody gypsi from india even our gypsis we had killed some of them the rest come to serbia to joing you so we are ethnicly albanian exept in mitrovica and few enclave are some old serbs they stay like in the zoo like animals czz once they go out they had it ha ha ha it is funny life in kosova serbs for us are like animals now if i see a serb man somevere in kosova in distance i would kill him straight away like a pig and burnt him like chiken with bird flu thas how you serb are treat it in kosova now yes yes we have a power fuck serb like you not all serbs they are some good one

Alex Belgrade		25-Mar-2006 16:24
Albanians are so civilized, part 2: http://www.kosovo.com/news_pogrom.html

Alex Belgrade		25-Mar-2006 16:20
Albanians are so civilized! Take a look: http://www.kosovo.com/churchdamaged1.html

Vlad		25-Mar-2006 14:05
ALL PEOPLES WHO KNOW HISTORY CAERTAINLY KNOW THAT KOSOVO IS SERBIA, BUT IT'S VERY SAD TO SEE THAT THE ARROGANCE OF USA AND THE INDIFFERENCE OF EUROPE WILL MAKE AN INDEPENDENT KOSOVO. I HOPE THAT TO KOSOVO WILL BE GIVE "MORE OF AUTONOMY BUT LESS OF INEPENDENCE" AS SAID BORIS TADIC, THIS IS UNFORTUNATELY THE MAXIMUM THAT SERBIA CAN TO OBTAIN. AS AN EUROPEAN AND AS A CHRISTIAN I'M VERY ANGRY TO SEE THE INDEFFERENCE OF THE WEST COUNTRIES TO THE DISTRUCTION OF SERBIAN CHURCH. EXPECIALLY NOW WHEN ISLAM ATTACK OUR CIVILIZATION, IS VERY SAD AND ANGRY TO SEE WESTERN GOVERNMENT DON'T CARE ABOUT AN EUROPEAN PROBLEM, A CHRISTIAN PROBLEM, AND TO THINK ONLY FOR THAT ANIMALS OF IRAQ WHO ARE GOOD ONLY TO BEHEAD THEMSELVES. ALSO THE POPE BENEDICT XVI WILL BE MORE INTERESTED ON THIS PROBLEM. ALL CHRISTIAN PEOPLES WILL BE UNITED, ONLY IN THIS WAY WE CAN DEFEAT ISLAM, WHO MEANING ONLY: VIOLENCE, WAR, BLOOD AND DEATH. THE PROBLEM OF EUROPEAN PEOPLES IS THAT THE GREAT SPIRIT OF PRIDE AND VALOUR OF THE PAST IS LOST. ONLY IN BALKAN REGION PEOPLES ARE STILL PROUD AND CORAGEOUS, AS THE PEAST WHEN WE FOUGHT AGAINST TURKS, BUT IN THE WEST, THESE THINGS ARE ALMOST FORGOTTEN.

Guest		25-Mar-2006 13:37
This albanian pissing on mosque mother fucker says : "SERBS(YUGOSLAVIA) THEY TREAT US LIKE ANIMAL THEY NEVER INVEST IN KOSOVA" That a interesting thing, hearing it from a pig. Serbia invested so much in that poor region, and albanians were never thankfull about it, THEY NEVER PAYD ELECTRICAL BILS, WATER, GARBAGE ANY BILS, they lived without any costs, AND STILL THEY'RE PIG MENTALITY AND DNA DID NOT let them develope.

FR		25-Mar-2006 13:26
Another thing, anyone normal has to look at SHIPTARS like pigs, they keep they're women locked inside the house, all that they do is cook, and give birth, they have up to 10 children in a family and sometimes more, they can't read or write, THEY ARE PIGS, in a human form, thats much worse...

FR		25-Mar-2006 13:24
You albanians are sure funny people. You ruined Kosovo, and its 50 times worse than in 1999, and its keep getting worse. There is a reason for that, you are pig people, the worse developed nation in Europe, and further. You all know that Kosovo is not gonna get full indipendence, and ITS STILL NOT KOSOVA BUT KOSOVO, Serbia lost Kosovo before 99, with 2 milion pigs living there, but something is very cetrain, you will not gain UN membership like any indipendent country, and you will allways be under Serbian control, becouse its a Serbian land and it will allways be, its name says so. You run ander serbian forces, and you gonna run again. As for albanians, everybody in the Balkans hate them, as in Europe. Kosovo albanians aka shiptars are the uglyest, the filthiest, the brainless ethnical group in whole EUROPE. thats a fact. Maybe you are satisfied that Serbia no more has a goverment in Kosovo, but I'm just satisfied that our civilisation level is much higher than you stuped albanians, and that you never gonna have that.

Alex Belgrade		25-Mar-2006 10:17
Ilir Lika, Well, if Albanians did not have 8 or 10 members of a family, perhaps they would not be so poor in the first place. And my grandfather lived in the mountains as well, but he did not have a gun. Clarify one thing for me. You keep claiming that Kosovo is an Albanian land? Just because Albanians make the majority - does not make it YOUR land. Fact 1. When Serbs settled the Balkans in the 6 and 7 centuries, and in subsequent centuries, they fought the Byzantnine and Ottoman Turkish Empire. Not Albanians. Fact 2. Only Albanians claim to be descendants of the ancient Illyrians but most of the world does not support this theory. Fact 3. Kosovo was the center of Serbian medieval empire, statehood and the birthplace of Serbian Orthodox Church. Hundreds of medieval churches and monasteries, which Albanians are now destroying, testify to the centuries of Serbian religion, culture and civilization. Fact 4. In 1389 we fought the Turks, not Albanians. Fact 5. Since 1912 Kosovo has been part of Serbia and Yugoslavia. Fact 6. According to UN Resolution 1244, Kosovo is legally still part of Serbia and Yugoslavia (now the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro), and it's officially and internationally still called Kosovo, not Kosova. So, for centuries in the middle ages, and for most of the 20th century, Kosovo was part of the Serbian state. It is Albanians who took the Serbian land. When Kosovo was not part of Serbia, it was part of Turkish empire, not Albania. Fact 7. The only time Kosovo had EVER been part of Albania was under a Nazi state created by Hitler during WW 2. That does not count as relevant. Fact 8. Until the beginning of WW 2, Serbs were the absolute majority in Kosovo. For anyone that has any brains, it's not hard to figure out to whom Kosovo historically belongs to. To Serbia and Serbs.

Alex Belgrade		25-Mar-2006 10:03
Lee, For once I agree with Ilir Lika. When an Albanian gives you his BESA, his word, he will not break it, under any circumstances. That concept is familiar to me. That is one thing I like about Albanians. So, if Ilir Lika gave you his word that he would not harm you, and that he would just like to have a beer, then you should accept the offer without any problems. Even I, as a Serb, would trust an Albanian if he gave me his BESA. It's one of those medieval concepts that still work in modern times. I suspect that the blood feud (an eye for an eye) dates from the same period as well. He will tell you his stories and I'd like to tell you mine, when you come to Belgrade, just so you don't get only one side of the story.

Alex Belgrade		25-Mar-2006 09:56
Ilir Lika, Why are you turning this forum into a deailed personal account of your life? Who cares. I know Albanians have had a hard time, but so have the Serbs. Imagine what it would look like if all of us started telling our life stories in such detail. I am sure that, if we had a Serb from Kosovo here, he could tell you stories of Albanian phone calls in the middle of the night, of the pressure to sell his home at a cheap price, of the insults, the abuse, the terror. For Gods sake, Serbian farmers are being shot at their fields, nuns are being raped and abused, Serbian churches urinated upon and turned into rubble, 150 of them so far destroyed, mostly medieval ones, desecration and destruction of Serbian cemeteries is going on, there are reports of the remains of human bodies being pulled outof what should have been their final resting place, cemeteries turned to fields of rubble: their graves gaping open, their broken crosses and smashed tombstones lying in the weeds. The fact is, relationships between Serbs and Albanians, and vice versa, have never been good and they will never be good. What bothers me is the fact that there will be 2 Albanian states in Europe. I am sick of the Albanians trying to present themselves as innocent little angels. The latest scandal is Interpol's removal from the list of most wanted, of Kosovo Prime Minister Agim Ceku, a known TERRORIST and MURDERER. Here are some links from foreign news sources, not Serbian: New KLA leader was responsible for ethnic cleansing - 1999 http://www.members.tripod.com/kosovo99/agimceku.htm War Criminal, Ally, or Both? http://www.motherjones.com/news/special_reports/total_coverage/kosovo/ceku.html The Halifax Herald Limited, September 10, 2001 NATO playing favourites in treatment of indicted war criminal http://www.balkanpeace.org/hed/archive/sept01/hed4073a.shtml "Ceku was also the mastermind of the Medak Pocket massacre when Croatian forces attacked the Princess Patricia Canadian Light Infantry in 1993 who were trying to stop the slaughter by Croatians of Serbian civilians, young and old. http://www.citizensoldier.org/balkanbetrayals.html http://www.eroj.org/urbiorbi/Yugoslavia/ceku.htm

ILIR LIKA		25-Mar-2006 04:24
CONTINUE so all my life was strugling never did have a good time like other kids have but just working hard all the time just to feed my family one daywas summer 1988 i was lucky in PRISHTINA i meet a serb man in the market he ask me do you want job as a cleaner in prishtina to clean the streets i said yes straight away his name was SINISHA god bles him he is dead now but i told to sinisha i live far away from here he said not a problem i got two flats in prishtina you can live one of them i will not take money from you for a year i went home i told to my father what happend my father told me why not so i start to work as a cleaner in prishtina when i was age 17 and half then me and my father we thought to sell some land and bay a house in prishtina we did sell it and moved to prishtina place called vranjevc the most poor are of city in autumn 1988 we left willage but still i was going every month just to see my willage cz i still got some land and my house there but nobody leave now in my land they work my uncle "this housein willage is like weekend house for my family present day " so when we moved 1988 to city we hade dificulties in begining cz nobody knows us but slowly slowly everything was going better and better then in 1989 i have letter from army i have to go to army so i did go and finish my military service in year 1990 then again i start my job as a cleaner until 1992 so all my life was really bad but now i am enjoing thanks to god sometime i think for my age to happend all those thinks are to much" like it happend to somebody 80 year old" this is my short story of my life in YUGOSLAVIA from 1970-1992 to 1998-1999 which i did told you early can somebody from you guys think and put a finger on your head why all this happend to me "I THINK BECAUSE I WAS ALBANIAN" SERBS(YUGOSLAVIA) THEY TREAT US LIKE ANIMAL THEY NEVER INVEST IN KOSOVA then again i am not saying there are not good serbs yes they are some of them like SINISHA god bles him i wish all serbs were like him but they are not most of them are evil to us but because of that they lost KOSOVA this is my idea and it is true so you guys can make your own idea and tell me and tell to other albanians why why they kill us why they took our land why they humilate us like second class of people thats why i hate serbs

ILIR LIKA		25-Mar-2006 03:47
CONTINUE when my father came home he was very ill they broke his leg his right arm they cut one of his fingers so somehow my father since then he was half disabled so i have to give up my my school cz i have to look after the all family can you imagine 14 year old boy to look after 10 members of family thanks to my mother she used to help me all the time at farm me i have to go once a week in prishtina to sell our products i was like a father to all my brothers and sisters even today my father could not work or walk propely and his right hand is like dead meat

ILIR LIKA		25-Mar-2006 03:40
CONTINUE so all the time i was asking my self why god has punish us so bad why our goverment dont care for kids like me ,would i be all my life poor etc etc in the year 1984 when i was only 14 year old my father one day police take him to police station beaten up brutaly by police asking him for guns, we did have one rifle for our safety cz we were living in mountains area but somebody told to police my father is a dealer of guns my god my father could not even bay me a ice cream and no way he can be a dealer anyway they keept my father in police station in prishtina for one week i went my self every day asking them when they going to relase him they never let me speak to him so when they relase him next week they send him to hospital for the injuries they did to him

ILIR LIKA		25-Mar-2006 03:29
CONTINUE the nearest school was 5km i used to walk juring the winters,rain,storms,all those bad weathers on my foot every day 10km cz in this region of kosova there was not bus route not only in my willage but in someny willages there kids have to walk miles away to go to school i used to take my lunch from my home just slice of bread some feta cheese to eat at school not every time just sometime all the time when i came from school straight away to go and work on farm then to go late at afternon put ships,goats,cauws,back inside the farm late at nite i used to learn my school exams for next day when i was 10 year old i was working same job in farm as my father havy jobs some time i was begin to god to take my life cz when we di go to prishtina with my father in market to sell our farm products like cheese,butter,milk etc i used to see young kids same age as me having a good life playing fotball eating ice cream nice clothes and my heart was crying inside me i know my father was poor so the moneys we used to take from our products my father would bay for us shous or something for our home to use

ILIR LIKA		25-Mar-2006 03:10
i born in 1970 in one willage which is 25 miles away from PRISHTINA i came from a poor family my father was a farmer my mother she used to help him on the farm and look after us (kids)i have 2 brothers including me three and 5 sisters so all together 8 kids and my parents 10 members of family so it was large family i was the oldest kid in family we used to have a good life juring the time we were all together we never had a good clothes we never eat a chocholate or go to shop to bay chocholate or other thinks cz my father could not aford it to bay those thinks for us the only time i eat chocholate or anything else come from shop when some guest come from city and bring it to us my father was strugling with life just to feed us with food we did not have even television at home until 1982 yes one radio we had it at home listen news or music where i come from this willage is sourronded by mountains very beautiful country side was very dangerous from wild animals there to go out juring a nite there were somany wolfs and bears round those mountains juring the strong winters sometime we did not go out of house for a month

ILIR LIKA		25-Mar-2006 02:54
to alex i am not going to repeat again what i said to you about KOSOVA KOSOVA IS GONE FOREVER FROM SERBIA REMEMBER I DONT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY TO YOU ABOUT KOSOVA BUT I CAN TELL YOU A STORIES ABOUT MY LIFE IN YUGOSLAVIA WHEN I WAS YOUNG ON THOSE DAYS

ILIR LIKA		25-Mar-2006 02:41
ok mr lee lets be friends now of course ilike to meet you and i swear to my mother life i i will be in parrot pub just 4 drinks if you wana see me i dont want to come even my self to fight with you i will give to you my word we call in albanian language "BESA" so you got it that from me i would like to meet you more as a friend for a pint of lager if you want to fight me i would not fight i like to talk as a man than if you think some other time we can meet for a real fight anywere you want whatever you want so this time we will talk like anybody dont take any friends so i will not take any friends i promise you but just let me know when you want 2 see me any time juring the week exept friday evening and saturday evening rest of the week i will be free to meet with you whatever i said to you beafore take my apology i am sorry if you want to meet me this sunday is fine with me or other day so have good time see you later mate bye bye

lee coleman		24-Mar-2006 20:10
well ilir ,, if your story is true then i take back all my nasty comments ,, but think if this had not of happened you wouldnt be in england now with your business etc etc ,, also i know you are not the only person this happened to ,, also serbs croatians ,, bosnians and other albanians have a similar story ...or there dead . im not joking i will come and meet you for a pint i know this parrot pub ,, im not looking for a fight , i figured out we are about the same age from your story , i like to meet interesting people in my city , london is the greatest city in the world and every one has a story to tell .

Alex Belgrade		24-Mar-2006 16:57
Sokol Prenaj, You know that American saying - it's not over till the fat lady sings. Well, the fat lady has not sung yet. Let's wait and see what happens. At the moment KOSOVO is named as such and is officially still a part of Serbia and the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro. From the UN Security Council Resolution 1244, to the Helsinki Final Act, to the Kumanovac Agreement, in all these international documents independence of Kosovo is not mentioned. So, we have to wait and see. Tirana said Albanians in Albania are not interested in a Greater Albania, but here we have Ilir Leka and yourself who are interested in it. If Serbia and Croatia were not allowed to have a Greater state, why should that same privilege be given to Albania? In my prediction, Kosovo will not get full independence. Because of that, Albanians will start becoming nervous. We could expect incidents in Kosovo, such as the pogrom of 2004, or in the Presevo Valley (Southern Serbia), or in places like Tetovo and Gostivar (FYR of Macedonia). At some point, we could also expect Albanians to attack Nato and UN troops, perhaps because of impatience, or perhaps because the Albanians will say to the West - "these resources are ours, you've done your job, now go home". It will take many years and decades before Serbia in general is ready to accept the independence of Kosovo. Right now, if you say that to most Serbs, you will get an angry reaction from them. Once the islamic terror increases, and it will, the West will have to pull the plug on supporting Albanians, because it is a known fact that the KLA has had ties with Osama bin Laden. When the money and political support from the West stop coming, Albanians will remain poor. Possibly, if the islamic terror against the West increases, the West just might turn its attention to supporting Serbia. Like I said in the beginning, it's not over yet! And it's KOSOVO, still.

Alex Belgrade		24-Mar-2006 16:46
Pablo, Thank you for your wonderful and encouraging words. I agree with you 100%. Welcome to the forum, I hope you will stay. It is wonderful to have people from a totally different side of the world, experience the Balkans and its people. My sister had visited Cuba and she found it very amusing and fun. It does seem poor, in material ways, but she discovered so much passion in the people, so much warmth, music, so much spirit and atmosphere. She found it fascinating and very inspiring. You are absolutely right - material things are not that important. Of bigger importance are things like HEART and SOUL, and I think both Serbia (and the Balkans) and Cuba (and South America) share that. Thank you. Alex

SOKOL PRENAJ		24-Mar-2006 15:39
ALEX i read your comments i can see anger on you whatever you say about KOSOVA is your opinion KOSOVA is gone for ever from serbia and it will get full indepedence of course we have to protect serb minority and other we have still some problem to resolve with serbia about few thinks in future we are still going to reclaim some of ur land in serbia regarding KOSOVA you wasting your time you can say anything you want to ILIR we are going to get GREAT ALBANIA soon or later good luck to serbs like you

Pablo		24-Mar-2006 14:34
Gracias! Tu espanol esta buenisimo! Thank you. La Habana is a great wonderful and unique city, my home town! I invite you to visit, and i will take you around! Yes, i was very lucky to travel through much of eastern europe. It is very rare for a young cuban like me to get that chance, but was very lucky to do so with my university, La Universidad de La Habana. It was a wonderful experience, every country was beautiful! I also wanted to mention, their was so much talk in this conversation about how rich or poor countries were at the moment. Their are so much more important things than that! We in Cuba are many times considered a poor county, but we are very rich culturally, and are a happy people even with our struggles. This is much more important!

Vlad		24-Mar-2006 14:05
WELCOME IN THIS FORUM PABLO, THANKS FOR YOUR WORDS, HOW I CAN TO UNDERSTAND, YOU HAD TRAVEL VERY MUCH. UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T IN YOUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY, A MY FRIEND WAS THERE IN HAVANA AND TALK ME THAT IS BEAUTIFUL CITY WITH ITS OLD CENTER AND ITS SEA-SIDE. MY NATIONALISTIC PRIDE IS GREAT, I LOVE MY MOTHERLAND MORE THAN MYSELF AND MY FAMILY, AND I BELIEVE IN EVERYCASE IN A GOOD FUTUR OF PEACE IN THIS GREAT REGION, A FUTUR WHO CAN BE GUARATEE ONLY BY RESPECT. TE SALUDO Y Tù ES SIEMPRE EL BIENVENIDO AQUI. ESTOY IMPARANDO UN POQUITO DE ESPANOL, ES UNA OCASION HABLAR CONTIGUO.

Pablo		24-Mar-2006 13:50
I am new to this conversation...I am from Cuba, from the other side of the world than most of you. First of all, let me start by saying, great pictures of Belgrade, it is a great beautiful city with a lot of life. I traveled through all the Balkans last year except for Greece, and found ALL the countries very beautiful and interesting. Now about the conversation, I find it very sad! I understand the deap pain which you all must feel for different very valid reasons, but hate is always wrong! Forgiveness is very important. Tirana: I must say that i respect you greatly for how you have acted in this conversation! You have defended your homeland without resorting to attacks and hatred. People like you give hope to the world that one day their might be peace! Also, i must say i visited Albania and loved it. I would not call Tirana a beautiful city, but it was very interesting and fun. And Gjirkastra is very beautiful!! And i found Albanians to be very warm and nice people. Vlad: In a strange way, our countries share some history despite being on opposite sides of the world! I understand your nationalistic pride, but is it nto better to forget the past and look to the future with positivity and peace? Bucharest is a great city! I love it, very bustling. And Brasov is very very beautiful. Alex: It is clear to see you have a good heart and good intentions, and just a deep love for your country which is wonderful! But sometimes it seems you let your anger about certain issues such as kosovo, which is very understanble, take over you! Stefan: You are very ignorant, and insult much too much. You have too much hate in you. Serbia is a great country, but from reading your comments, you give a bad representation of sebrians. Please try to open your mind! If all the Balkan countries work together they will help all of the peoples of the area! Thats my opinion :) Regards, Pablo

zoltan		24-Mar-2006 13:12
how come and except of Tirana the other filthy mother fuckers albanians speak english like butt fucked sluts from kosovo?!LEARN ENGLISH YOU ANIMALS ALBANIANAS BEFORE DYING ONCE AND FOR ALL.

Vlad		24-Mar-2006 10:50
DOBER DAN GOSPODINE ALEX, JA VIM USCITE SRPSKI, GOVOLI ZAJEDNO SRPSKI PRIETENJU IN TIMISOARA. GOVOLI RUMUNSKI? THESE ARE FEW WORDS WHO I KNOW IN YOUR LANGUAGE MY FRIEND, THIS TO HANGE ARGOUMENTS TO DON'T BE ANGRY FOR THESE THINGS. SEE YOU AS SOONS.

Alex Belgrade		24-Mar-2006 07:13
Ilir Lika, In 1991-92, Yugoslav military police also forcefully mobilised Serbs as well, in the same way you described. So you are not an exception just for being an Albanian. Yugoslavia was falling apart because of the violent secession of Slovenia and Croatia, then Bosnia, and Yugoslav army was sent to protect the country from falling apart. And Kosovo was then part of Yugoslavia. I am sorry for what the Serbian regime did to you, but they did the same thing to Serbs as well. So, you were in the KLA. For me you are a terrorist, and you would have been for the world, had Clinton not taken the KLA from the FBI's list of terrorist organizations. Kosovo was not Albanian since the beginning of time, that is a brutal Albanian lie as is the subsequent twisting of facts and history - like that Wikipedia encyclopedia says - Albanians think they are descendants of Illyrians - but not many others in the world. We did not fight the Illyrians when we settled the Balkans, not even the Albanians, we fought the Byzantine Empire and Ottoman Turks. For your information, it's not Kosova. It's Kosovo (still under UN Resolution 1244 and still officially a Serbian Province, and still, officially, called Kosovo). You will probably get conditional independence, but you will have to respect Serbian minority , religion and culture. If you don't, you will never get full independence. So in the end you will have to be nice to Serbs - to let them return and to rebuild their homes and churches. Your English sucks and so does your brain. You are very limited, Ilir Lika. I have offered you a chance to make peace and at least start discussing things. But I see you are full of irrational hate . It will destroy you. I am not going to respond to your comments. I feel very sorry for you. And it's such a pity America is supporting people such as yourself.

ILIR LIKA		24-Mar-2006 04:37
WE HATE SERBS ALL ALBANIAN HATE SERBS WE HATE HATE HATE HATE SERBS DEATH TO SERBS EVEN THE DEAD BODIES IN THE GRAVEYARD YOU GOT IN SERBIA WE HATE EVEN DEAD SERBS DEATH TO SERB RACE

ILIR LIKA		24-Mar-2006 04:32
to alex hej kume kosovo je nas jebi se majku ti jebem HA HA HA HA HA HEY ALEX THIS YEAR WHEN KOSOVA WILL GET INDEPENDENT THIS YEAR PLEASE DONT GET SO DRUNK CZ YOU MY DO SUICIDE TO YOUR SELF LIKE PIG MILLOSHEVICH HE DID SUICIDE HA HA HA DONT WORRY ALEX WE ALBANIAN WE HAVE A GOOD HEART WE WILL EMPLOYED YOU SERBS JURINFG A SUMMER TIME TO COME TO OUR SEA BY ALBANIAN COAST TO CLEAN TOILETS FOR TOURISTS CZ YOU DONT HAVE EVEN SEA NOW CZ MONTENEGRO IS GOING BYE BYE BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR VIZA TO COME TO GREAT ALBANIA IT WILL BE HARD OH SORRY I FORGOT SO YOU FUCKING SMELLY SERBS YOU FUCKING HAD IT NOW OH MY GOD I WAS NEVER HAPPY IN MY LIFE SINCE 1999 TILL PRESENT DAY ESPECAILLY WHEN WE WILL GET INDEPEDENCE THIS YEAR SERBIA WILL BE FOR GREAT ALBANIA LIKE ROMANIA ONCE UPON THE TIME WAS FOR YUGOSLAVIA YOU PEOPLE EVERYBODY WILL COME IN YOUR COUNTRY AND FUCK YOUR BEAUTIFUL SERB WOMEN AS YOU SAID THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL IN MY ASS THEY LOOK LIKE VAMPIRE ALBANIAN RACE IS SUPERIOR RACE WE ARE ARIAN RACE DEATH TO SERBS LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA JEBI SE

ILIR LIKA		24-Mar-2006 04:19
TO ALEX whatever you saiy alex you are still my enemys you can say anything you like milloshevich did this stefan njemanja did this car lazar did this who cares all this you said is fake and nbobody care about serbs any more cz KOSOVA was ALBANIAN land since human begin to have a life there and will be albanian and it is albanian sorry my friend i feel bad cz your hart is broken about kosvova or you are hurt who give a shit about you or serbs if their heart are broken about KOSOVA hmmm hmmm i am crying ha ha ha ha fuck off kosova will be for you serbs like a legend now it will be soon great ALBANIA for sometime KOSOVA will be indepedent country maybe for 5 years then GREAT ALBANIA so serbia not even they lost KOSOVA but they are loosing even MONTENEGRO this year i think in the couple years coming we still going to ask from serbia to return our land in NIS,PROKUPLE,JABLLANICA,VRANJE,LESKOVAC,TOPLICA ETC ETC even hungary they going to ask you for a land in VOJVODINA northern part so serbia is geting smaller and smaller just by next year i could not wait to see new world map atlas how small look serbia without KOSOVA and MONTENEGRO so you fucking serbs you ask for that now you got it HA HA HA HA LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA I LOVE ENGLAND AND USA death to serbs to pigs like milloshevich

ILIR LIKA		24-Mar-2006 03:57
to mr lee continue mate you dont really know about me i dont care what you said or some serbs here at this forum end of the day we are proud we are albanian especilay you mother fucker tell me any time you like t o meet me at west hampstaed ILIR LIKA it is really my real name take 100 friend with guns or anyrthing i dont care i will be my own lets meet at pub called PARROTS in broadway garden next to west hampstead station we dont have to go to albanian coffe shoop we can have a lager together i will pay dont worry mate and we will have conversation face to face any time you like any day or nite just let me know one day in advance you pice of shit so mr lee go and have some fish and chips or come i will teach you what to eat i bet you your stomac is almost emty or body fat from junk food come mate i will give to you GULLASH majku ti jebem , ta qifsha nanen ne pidh QAO QAO

ILIR LIKA		24-Mar-2006 03:56
to mr lee continue then in 1998 i went and joing KLA KOSOVO LIBERTION ARMY I WAS THERE for one year and half fighting serbs i did see even there horror in kosova like i seen in croatia then in august 1999 i came back to england again my bussines was still going on in england cz i left in charge my cousine then i took over again and start a life i go in kosova every 2 month i stay there one month come back tondon then again in two month time i travel a lot all over europe i am having a good time now cz i am proud i did fight for my country KOSOVA my father and my mother and all my family they all are having a good happy life they go often at adriatic sea two times at summer at ulqin in albania in durrs i got big house they go there to i am glad i have fought for my country even do i lost some members of my close family like i lost two of my uncle in front line and couple of my cousines but now we are enjoing the life after all the serbia is loosing KOSOVA and we going to get GREAT ALBANIA very soon

ILIR LIKA		24-Mar-2006 03:53
to mr lee continue in that area they took 20 young man like me 2 of them they were gypsis 1 of them was bosnian 17 were albanian including me they took us to military place called BAJTANICA in serbia next day 03/06/1992 they send us to front line in CROATIA city called KNIN those albanian they took with me i newer saw them again cz they seperate us i was in KNIN and area of KININ for 2 month there were even paramilitarys of ARKAN AND SHESHEL but i never saw ARKAN OR SHESHEL only them soldier (chetniks) cz i was a yugoslav soldier we never mix with them exept sometime i saw them coming to us for party when yugoslav soldier were having drinks late at night i was all the time staying in the corners they were making fun with me hej shqiptari come on lets drink for our victori i saw dead bodies croat bodies cut in their throats without eye no ears etc all those bodies were laying next to us while we were having party not me but serbs at this batalion we were about 5 albanian and 10 serb muslims all the time we were staying together at night looking after each other in case some one come and cut us while we were sleeping sometime we were fighting at night but most at the day when yougoslav armywe were shelling bombs to croats willage and we did not see any more resisitance our generals used to call those paramilitarys to go and make masacre at croats willagers i have seen a lot in that war for only 2 month then i escape i took clothes from dead bodies and went to zagreb from zagreb to ljublana to headquarters of united nation i told them who i am they did help me and brought it me to england on october 1992

ILIR LIKA		24-Mar-2006 03:51
hi mr lee i just one to tell you something abut my life cz you dont know nothing about yugoslavia hate betwen serbs and albanian etc I was 20 year old when i left kosova i did not left kosova because i was scared of serbs but because of yugoslav army. in january 1992 they send me a mail to me i have to go for inerwiew on military branch in prishtina used to called "MARSHAL TITO" but i did not respond to them i knew it straight away why they call me cz i alredy did military service when i was age 18 on the year 1989 in SKOPJE my profesion in army was a soldier of combact ground force i was very good as a sniper man i had a grade in army when i was i was a good yugoslav soldier at the time when was YUGOSLAVIA never mine so then on 02/06/1992 military police come to my home early morning they sourrondet all my area in that part of prishtina they not only for me but for others to to take by force people to send them to war they broken my front door of my house i was sleeping with other 2 brother one was 9 year old and other one was 15 year old i heard my mother was screaming and beg them to not take me they come to my bedrrom but i did not have a chance to escape they beat me up front of all my family they were beating up my father swearing to me shqiptarske jubre majku ti jebem etc name it my family had a nightmare that early morning was 5o"clock they took me with sleeping drees they even didi not let me kiss my little brother cz he was so scared they did not let me say bye to my mother and my father they close my eye like a prisoner with pice of cloth

Alex Belgrade		23-Mar-2006 23:07
Ilir Lika, 1. Learn English, please! 2. You obviously did not see Serbian young women in Belgrade. They are beautiful, they look like they stepped out of a beauty parlor in Rome or Paris. Most Western people that come to Serbia think Serbian ladies are very fine. Come to Belgrade and I will show you our ladies. 3. I am ready to bury the war hatchet with Tirana. I am extending the offer to you. As both of us are young, it's up to us to work together and make the future better for us all, in the whole region. My question to you is - would you accept a truce? We do not have to like each other but I am sure we can discuss things in a polite way? Let me know. And stop arguing with Lee, you have no idea how ridiculous that makes you look. An Albanian giving life lessons to an Englishman. I mean, come on. If you were a German or an American, I could buy that, but this way, it's ridiculous. I extend my greetings to the entire Balkan region - this beautiful but misfortunate region of ours. With some positive spirit, good will and an open heart we can make things work for us all. HATE WILL DESTROY US ALL. Peace, love and prosperity to all. P.S. I have thought about what Tirana said. He is actually right. We can spend forever and a day hating each other and saying garbage to one another, or we can try and make the Balkans a region of cooperation and tolerance.

lee coleman		23-Mar-2006 21:59
im not gay either !!

lee coleman		23-Mar-2006 21:57
oh yeah , i would be happy to meet you in hampstead ,, not this weekend im working . maybe you can buy me a coffee in one of these "albanian cafes" . i wont bring a gun a knife or any of my friends and neither should you .

lee coleman		23-Mar-2006 21:47
your a funny guy ilir ,, you come on this forum broadcasting how you will rape and murder serbs mothers and sisters and how you will slaughter me like a lamb etc etc bla bla bla bla bla ,, this is not a gentleman . i have been on albanian forums and i have never seen serbs insulting albanians to this level . the serbs on this forum have shown they are gentlemen by not responding to your disgusting words ,, BUT seeing as you are living in my country and my city when you have no right and you shouldnt even be here ,, i will insult you as much as i like. i will tell you why you are here ,, in 92 you ran away because you were scared of serbs ,, instead of staying and fighting and defending your so called kosova and defending your family ....YOU RAN AWAY !! your were shaking with fear and crying like a small child and you ran away like all the other albanians living in england now ,, you are all cowards .. you are not brave warriors or freedom fighters . when things got bad and your country and people needed you ,, you turned around and ran away to england . thats why you are so angry because you are deeply ashamed of yourself and you dont know where to direct your anger . i dont hate you , and i wish you well .

ILIR LIKA		23-Mar-2006 17:59
lee coleman ur a pice of shit cz i dont work in kebap shop either carwash i got my own bussines i fell sorry for english gays like you or maybe ur a serb chetnik cz black people fuck ur wife anf ur doughter u cant even fuck ur own wife thats way you hate albanian maybe they fuck ur wife or ur doughter ha ha ha i will give 2 you £2000 to sleep with your wife come and meet me at west hampstead any time we can leave date and time and we can meet me and you then we will see who is slave me or you even if i work in kebap shop or moping or doing carwash job would not be insult for me i would work and clean your car i would not mine cz end of they day is a job but thanks 2 god i got my own bussines so i dont have to work those kind of jobs other ways i would work why not i have better life than you mate i can prove it to you if you meet me and i can bet you are a pice of shit like i said beafore go mate and have a fish and chips or jacket potatos or hot dog cz people like you that kind of food you eat yami yami ha ha ha you make smile go and have junk food and junk life mate cz i am a gentelmen for you even some pakis are more gentelmen and better than you fuck off if you got nice wife bring it to me when you want to meet me but she should be english if she is a serb women dont bring her i would not fuck cz they are smelly and dirty long leave england and great albania

lee coleman		23-Mar-2006 16:24
I TOLD YOU ILIR NO CHILI SAUCE WITH MY KEBAB !! AND SMALL CHIPS !! how many times do i have to tell you ? and after that i want you to mopp the floor and take out the rubbish ....also my car needs a wash ,, hurry up i cant wait all day for you . you ARE and ALWAYS will be my slave ilir .

Guest		23-Mar-2006 13:20
Amen, so be it.

Alex Belgrade		23-Mar-2006 06:35
Ilir Lika, Don't you see how ridiculous it is for you to claim to have a better standard of living and a better quality of life than Lee in London. I mean, you really should put a finger on your head. My advice to you, as was my advice to Stefan Serb is to calm down your respected nationalisms, and stop the insults, because it will not get us anywhere. Don't you think I can use obscene language? Sure I can, but then I will scoop down on your level, and that is exactly what I do not want to do.

Alex Belgrade		23-Mar-2006 06:27
Ilir Lika, You are one boring, ignorant idiot. From now on I will not answer to your provocations because I have better things to do in my life. From Wikipedia - "... some (notably Albanians) claim that Albanians are direct descendants of Illyrians". See, not even the whole world thinks you are descendants of the Illyrians. Only Albanians think that - so that's worthless. You are talking about an ancient civilization - which no longer exists. Why were they not called Albanians? why did we not fight Albanians in 1389? In other words, there is no universal proof that Albanians are descendants of the Illyrians. Of course, you can think that this is true and that Albanians are the oldest nation in Europe. Well, as opposed to Greece, who still has the reputation of the craddle of European civilization, and the birthplace of democracy, Albania is generally viewed as a corrupt, criminal state, which has survived the most brutal communist regime in Europe that had turned it into an impoverished, isolated land, desperate and very, very poor. That's what is a general view of Albanians. From Wikipedia: "Serbs, came to the territories of roughly modern-day Kosovo in the 6th and 7th centuries... The slavs were Christianized in several waves between the 7th and 9th century". Then the encyclopedia does not mention any fights with Illyrians or Albanians. It mentions fights with the Byzantnine Emperor and with the Ottoman Turks, who brought islam into Kosovo. "In 1166 - 1168, a Serbian nobleman from Zeta, Stefan Nemanja, who called himself the King of Serbs, Albanians and Vallahians, asserted to the Grand Princely throne and conquered most of Kosovo in an uprising against the Byzantines. Nemanja was eventually defeated and had to return some of his conquests, and vouched to the Byzantine Emperor that he would not raise his hand against him. In 1183, Nemanja embarked on a new offensive with the Hungarians after the Byzantine Emperor's death. Nemanja's son, Stephen II the First-crowned of Nemanja, recorded Nemanja's conquests, as Nemanja restored Kosovo from the Greeks, the border of the Serbian realm reaching the river of Lab. King of Serbs Stephen II finished the inclusion of the Kosovo territories in 1208, by which time he had conquered Prizren and Lipljan, and moved the border of his realm to the Sharr/Šar mountains. After the Empire of Tsar Stefan Dušan fell into disarray prior to his death in 1355, feudal anarchy caught up with the country during the reign of Tsar Stefan Uroš V. The area of Kosovo became a part of Prince Lazar of Moravian Serbia's domain. The Ottomans invaded the realm and met the coalition of South East European nobility on 28 June 1389, near Prishtina/Priština".... Etc.

ILIR LIKA		23-Mar-2006 06:02
to teo oi teo i am sorry if albanian they make a big hol to your sister pussy albanian for you are GOD ok fuck your mother if your mother she is serb mother i will give it to my dog to fuck if she is greek i will give it to her my shit in her mouth and cut her throat

ILIR LIKA		23-Mar-2006 05:56
to alex mr alex you remind me a milloshevich sometime because you are saying KOSOVA is a holy land to serbia is not true KOSOVA never was a holy land to serbia and will never be a holy land to serbia KOSOVA use to be PROVINCE OF ILLYRIA CALLED DARDANIA LIKE DALMATIA ETC KOSOVA all the time was part of ALBANIA exept and after 1912 was part of serbia and thanks to united kingdom and usa is going back again to ALBANIA you said there are sign of serb heritage in kosova since 12 century but not albanian you a fucking serb liar in KOSOVA there are more albanian heritage than serbs everybody know we got many albanian churches they are still present day they are old more than ur nation and you country albanian they were all the time in kosova our border they were up to hungary,austria,romania when use to be ILLYRIA serb nation did not exist at the time i am talking back 2000 year ago because you were traveller (gypsis) travelling from india to mongolia to georgia than to ukraine then you come to balkan all the world knows that when you came to balkan we albanian we did give to you hospitality than we did give to you land than later you formed a state even montenegro is older than your country montenegro they were our tribe i mean they were albanian but when you serbs bulid your country then you invade montenegro and change their language so now they speak serbian language just look people from montenegro most of them thy look like albanian even some of you serbe are convertetd to serb from albanian even some of you serbs not all but southern part of serbia most of population they are today like serbs their ancestors they were albanian because you serb nation all the time you stab us on the back we did help you a lot when you moved to balkan which i thin k our ancestors made a mistake they help you even in some old bible you can see MAP OF ILLYRIA not map of serbia etc you talking about battle of kosova oh my god you talking bullshit battle of kosova was not battle for serb nation but was battle for all europe every body fight polish ,romanian.serbs ,albanian.germans,italians.bulgarisns,against turkish empire but on the end they wer more casulties albanianbecause the battle was in albanian land so we were the first to deal with turkish empire than you because after the battle all your army left then turkish empire kill our kids womens old people for revange so we albanian all the time we did pay the prize than later SCANDERBEG fought turkish empire for some time other wise if it was not SCANDERBEG today all EUROPE WILL BE MUSLIM AND IF IT WAS NOT US ALBANIAN BECAUSE ALL THE TIME WE FIGHT TURKS WE NEVER LET THEM GO FURTHER TODAY EUROPE WILL BE MUSLIM even you serbs fight turks i am not saying only us albanian we fight turks etc so what i am saying to you serbs even do you have some churches in KOSOVA they ben ALBANIAN CHURCHES (ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCHES) but you serbs made them MONASTIRS ORTHODOKS CHUCHES we all know about those churches to who belong and dont tell me you got churches since 12 centuris because some of those churches they are our churches so KOSOVA IS ALBANIAN LAND AND WITHIN 5 TO 10 YEARS WILL BE GREAT ALBANIA IN THE VOTE OF POPULATION WHICH IT WILL HAPPEND FOR YES YES YES YES GREAT ALBANIA LETS PREPARE AND FUCK SERBS AND TAKE REST OF OUR LAND I FILL SORRY FOR YOUR CHILDREN YOU FUCKING SERBS BECAUSE BY THE TIME THEY WILL START TO ENJOY THE LIFE THEY GOING TO HAVE A HELL FROM ALBANIAN OCUPATION IN SOUTHERN OF SERBIA LIKE, NIS ,PROKUPLE, JABLLANICA VRANJA ETC ETC REMEMBER YOU BLODY PIGS SERBS IN 20 OR 30 YEARS YOU WILL SEE ALBANIAN FLAG IN THE NIS AND SOME PART OF SERBIA REVANGE REVANGE REVANGE YOUR COUNTRY WILL BE LIKE PALESTAINE WE WILL BE SECOND ISRAEL IN BALKAN REMEMBER THAT LONG LEAVE UNITED STATE OF ALBANIA I LOVE ENGLAND AND USA BUT MORE I LOVE MY HOLY LAND GREAT ALBANIA FROM PRISHTINA TO LONDON FROM LONDON TO TIRANA FROM LONDON TO WASHINGTON LONG LIVE ALBANIANS

ILIR LIKA		23-Mar-2006 05:07
TO TIRANA mire se erdhe ne ket forum shoku tirana ke pershendetjet e mia te perzemerta jom nga prishtina ket forum rastesisht e pash ne internet po kur lexova komentet e ketyre qetnikve serrb u bera nervos dhe nuk pata qare pa u shfrye me keta idiota serrb

LEKA		23-Mar-2006 04:58
TO LEE YEAH VERY FUNNY OI MATE I EARN MORE MONEY THEN YOU FUCKING EARN £20 A DAY ONLY POLISH MAN GETS IN LONDON AND WORK FOR 15 HOURS I BOUGHT A HOUSE IN HAMPSTEAD HEATH IN VERY POSH AREA I WORK HARD 4 THOSE MONEY 2 BUY HOUSE I BOUGHT IT IN CASH AND HAND ONE MILION POUND YOU MR LEE ONE MILION POUND YOU WILL SEE ONLY ON YOUR DREAM CZ YOU ARE A JUNKY MAN EATING FISH AND CHIPS FROM A TURKISH KEBAP SHOPS I CAN BUY ALL YOR FAMILY AND ALL YOUR INVESTMENTS YOU HAVE YOU MOTHER FUCKER I GOT A BIG VILLA HOUSE IN ALBANIA WITH SWIMING POOL BY COAST OF ALBANIA A CITY CALLED DURRS I GOT 2 BIG HOUSES IN PRISHTINA I RENT THEM TO TENANTS CZ WHEN I CAME 2 ENGLAND I WORK HARD I REMEMBER WHEN I CAME AT LONDON IN THE YEAR 1992 I WENT 2 LOOK 4 JOB IN INDIAN REASTURANT I WORK 12 HOURS A DAY LIKE A SLAVE 4 ONE YEAR AFTER THAT I WAS WORKING AS A LABOUR 4 TWOO YEAR WERY HARD THEN I OPEN MY OWN BUSSNIS AND I AM NOT GOING 2 TELL WHAT BUSSINES I HAVE CZ YOU WILL FUCKING GO MAD I EARN MORE MONEY THEN TONY BLER EARN AND YOU PICE OF SHIT YOU BLODY SERB CHETNIK TELLING ME I AM LIKE THIS AND LIKE THIS FUCK OFF YOU BLODY SERB LONG LEAVE UNITED STATE OF ALBANIA ,LONG LEAVE UNITED KINGDOM,AND USA I AM PROUD I AM ALBANIAN AND BRITISH CITIZEN BUT I WILL REMAIN ALBANIAN AND MY KIDS WILL SPEAK ALBANIAN ALL THE TIME ENGLISH WILL BE FOR THEM SECOND LANGUAGE NOT BECAUSE I HATE ENGLISH BUT I WANT TO TELL 2 MY KIDS YOU ARE ALBANIAN AND ENGLISH ARE UR FRIENDS AND SERBS AND GREEKS ARE UR ENEMIS SO I AM VERY VERY PROUD OF MY GREAT ALBANIA TO TIRANA TE PERSHENDES JAM LEKA JOM NGA PRISHTINA JU UROJ SUKSESE KALOFSHIT MIR TUNG TUNG

lee coleman		22-Mar-2006 22:41
leka you are so boring and predictable . go and make some more kebabs for me boy . you must accept this as your destiny ....to be told what to do and how many chips and how much chili sauce by englishmen , but at least at the end of your 15 hour day you get payed a whole 20 pounds ! wow this must so special for you , you must feel like a millionair ..yes ? untill you leave england you will ALWAYS be my slave . untill you leave england you will ALWAYS be my slave .

Alex Belgrade		22-Mar-2006 20:18
Tirana, What you wrote was very sweet. The hugging stuff. I liked that. I wish I could say I wanted to hug you. I would not harm you like Stefan would, but I am right now in very much pain because of Kosovo. Maybe in 20 years I can say - I want to hug Albanians, but right now I feel too much pain and anger that this most important land to Serbs will go away. It's nothing personal. It's just the way things are. I do not hate you, I do not want bad things for you. I am just hurting and I want to let my wounds heal, and I certainly do not need provocators like Ilir Leka. Kosovo was not as developed as the rest of Serbia because of Albanians. They obstructed the Serbian and Yugoslav state whenever they could. In time, they created parallel systems of finance, education, etc. But, they used the social benefits and health care. Also because of the large natality rate of Albanians - 10 children per family, of course one can't feed all of them so they end up in the streets and doing crime. The more south you go, the poorer the region is. Look at Slovenia and Macedonia. Or north Serbia (Vojvodina) and South Serbia (Kosovo). Or north and south Italy. Or north and south USA. By the way, it is not our SO-CALLED holy land. It IS our holy land, with about 1.400 localities which are churches, monasteries, or places where once stood churches and monasteries but have been left in ruins. For your information,such a small area like Kosovo, has the biggest number of Christian churches per square meter, in the whole of Europe, and some of those churches have been protected by UNESCO as part of the world cultural heritage. Because of that, because of the 1389 Battle when we did not fight Albanians, but Turks, Kosovo IS a SACRED and HOLY land to all Serbs. But, you will never understand that. Vlad,. I have said all I had to say about Milosevic. Perhaps if you lived in Serbia for the past 15 years, like I have, perhaps you would not like him as much. In any case he is gone. Let's look ahead to the future.

Vlad		22-Mar-2006 17:28
TIRANA, VENDETTA ISN'T A LAW IS ONLY A SENTIMENT. IN SOUTH ITALY, PEOPLES AREN'T BAD. ONLY IS MORE LATINOS THAN IN THE REST OF ITALIAN PENINSULA. THE CHARACTER OF MEN IS MORE HOT. BUT I CAN SAY YOU THAT PEOPLES THERE ISN'T BAD. I GO THERE EVERY YEAR AND I DON'T SAW NEVER OF THESE KIND. FOR EXAMPLE, LAST SUMMER I'M ENJOYED VERY MUCH WITH MINE ITALIAN COUSINS AND THEY ARE WITH THEIR FRIENDS VERY GOOD PERSONS.

Vlad		22-Mar-2006 17:22
ALEX, I SAID ALSO THAT HE COMMITTED MANY MISTAKES, BUT HE WAS CERTAINLY A GREAT PATRIOT. THE DEATH OF YUGOSLAVIA ISN'T HIS FAULT BECAUSE THAT WAS WANTED BY USA AND GERMANY WHO GAVE QUICKLY THEIR HELP TO CROATIA AND SLOVENIA. MILOSEVIC WAS A ROMANTIC HERO WITH A ROMANTIC HISTORY: HE SUFFERED FOR THE DEATH OF HIS PARENTS AND HIS UNCLE, BUT HE HAVE THE COURAGE TO CONTINUE HIS LIFE, HE KNOW HIS WIFE MIRA AND HE BECOME QUICKLY PRESIDENT OF YUGOSLAVIA. SLOBO HAD A GREAT MIND AND HE LOVED SERBIA. HE FOUGHT AGAINST ISLAMIC PIGS OF BOSNIA AND HE GAVE HIS VOJSKA WHEN UCK BEHEADED SERBS. THE ACTUAL SITUATION IN SERBIA ISN'T HIS FAULT BECAUSE HE DID ONLY THE SAME THINGS WHO DID ALSO TUDJMAN, KUCAN AND IZETBEGOVIC, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS THAT TUDJMAN, KUCAN AND IZETBEGOVIC WERE FRIENDS OF USA. CERTAINLY HE WASN'T LIKE TITO, THE POLITIC AND ECONOMICAL POWER OF YUGOSLAV SERBIA WAS FAR BETTER THAN MILOSEVIC'S SERBIA. IS VERY SAD TO SEE THIS HATE AGAINST HIM. I WANT TO SAY YOU WHAT I THINKED WHEN I SAW MILES OF SERBS LOVING HIM IN BELGRADE AND POZAREVAC: "IF HE CAN TO SEE THAT, CERTAINLY HE CRYNG NOW." WAS A ROMANTIC MOMENT. WHEN THAT GENERAL SPOKE TO 50000 SERBS IN POZAREVAC AND THE PEOPLE SAID: "SLOBO!SLOBO!SLOBO!SLOBO!SLOBO!" I WAS GLAD TO SAY: THAT PROSTITUTE OF CARLA DEL PONTE LOST HIS PERSONAL WAR, SLOBO GO BACK IN HIS COUNTRY WITHOUT TO BE DEFEAT BY THAT CORRUPT TRIBUNAL, AND HE DIED LIKE AND HERO. ALSO NOW WHEN I WRITE YOU THESE WORDS I'M NEAR TO CRY. EUROPE LOST A MEDIEVAL CAVALIER OF EUROPEANS VALOURS, WE ALL EUROPEANS LOST AN HERO. DEATH TO CARLA DEL PONTE AND TO UCK. GLORY TO SLOBO, GLORY TO ARKAN TIGERS (ANOTHER HERO), GLORY TO WHITE EAGLES OF VOJSLAV SESELJ! AND I WANT TO HOPE THAT TWO OF MY HEROES: MLADIC AND KARADZIC WILL BE FREE FOR EVER AND WILL BEHEAD IN A NICE DAY ALL UCK ISLAMICS SHITS! SLOBO! SLOBO! SLOBO! SLOBO! SLOBO!

Tirana		22-Mar-2006 17:19
Vlad, Vendetta still exists in South Italy! Just some months before 30 to 40 persons were killed in Naples during a month period. If you insult someone or if you have sex with someone else's sister you're practically dead (i'm not generalising, but this situation is common). I have passed twice by Bari. Com'on man it seems like Albania :). Everyone speaks loudly, they gather in small bands, it's impossible that vendetta doesn't exist anymore. Certainly it has changed its form, but police is still powerless in all south Italy. Bye

Tirana		22-Mar-2006 17:11
Alex, you can't judge the situation in Kosovo because they aren't still independent, and after all what happened it needs at least 20 years before things become normal there. Don't say Albanians in Kosovo didn't pay taxes because you just show your ignorance about the tax system. If they got wages from Serbia, then they paid taxes too (at least that one). And i have a question for you : why Kosovo, the so-called your holy land, wasn't as developped as the rest of Serbia? Don't say me that everything was destroyed these last years! The fact is that Serbia didn't care at all about people living there, that's why Kosovo is like this actually. But wait, they have many natural ressources so they will develop rapidly. If Kosovo gains its independence Serbs will never get it back, just as it happened with us in 1913. Unless a WW3 starts. I told you to go in an albanian forum just to see what things were like, but if you don't want to, don't go, who cares! You make your own decisions. But if you want your children and grand-children to grow up in peace, that would have been a start. I know that nobody likes me here, but i am trying to change things, even if this thought might seem utopic. Am i making Serbs leave? Well if Serbs can't make a discussion and if they want their opinions to pass by force, let them leave. Why did Stefan leave? Because Miloshevic died? Bullshit! Just an excuse! The fact is that he can't accept to discuss. He's exactly the same as Ilir, but from the opposite side. If you blame Ilir today, you should have blamed Stefan previously. Jeez you guys can't understand the chances that we have today to say stop to the war. Life is too short to spend it by fighting, can't you see that? If i'm making the first step, go on follow me, everything is possible, everything. I really want to hug Serbs, Greeks, Romanians, Bulgarians, everyone, just for some peace. Am i asking a lot?

teo		22-Mar-2006 16:03
http://forum.pbase.com/viewtopic.php?t=17044&highlight=elias albanians go die you filthy rubbish

Alex Belgrade		22-Mar-2006 15:13
Vlad, You can believe what you want, but Milosevic destroyed Serbia and he made a lot of destruction (not all of it) in the region of what used to be Yugoslavia. It is true - he said "Nobody will beat you" (except his police), and then he withdrew from Kosovo in 1999. He said Yugoslavia will be preserved and it fell apart. He said all Serbs will unite and we lost Krajina and now Kosovo, and Macedonia, and parts of Bosnia and Hercegovina. He said we will last a thousand years with sanctions, and we had the biggest hyperinflation in 1993. He said Serbia was not at war during the wars in Croatia and Bosnia, and yet the dead bodies of young Serbs came home. He was not a patriot, he only cared about his own power and he would say anything, to appease the masses and stay in power. Everything he did - every single thing, it turned out wrong for Serbia in the end. He was not the only one to blame for wars - there were Slovenes, Croats, Bosnians, Kosovo Albanians and Nato - they all also did terrible things, but I hold him responsible for bringing Serbia to isolation, poverty, Nato bombs. He smeered our past and robbed us of our future. In the end he ended up under a tree in the backyard of his home, without a church service, without a cross on his grave, he was buried at night like a vampire and without the presence of his family. He got what he deserved. Most of Serbia now is NOT for Milosevic. Now young generations must fix everything he destroyed. Terrible legacy. I feel a stone of burden has finally been taken off Serbia's back now that he has died.

Vlad		22-Mar-2006 13:41
I SAW IN TV THE FUNERAL OF MILOSEVIC IN POZAREVAC. IS A LOVELY TOWN SEEMS OUR STAMORA MORAVITA. THESE TWO TOWNS ARE IN BANAT A REGION WHO IS DIVIDED BETWEEN ROMANIA AND SERBIA. YOU ALEX CERTAINLY KNOW BANAT. AND YOU CERTAINLY KNOW ITS BEAUTIFUL HASBURGIC ARCHITETURE WHO MAKE IT SEEMS AUSTRIA, WITH THE HOUSES IN FRONT AND THE GARDENS BEHIND. IN ROMANIAN BANAT WE HAVE ALSO THIS BEAUTIFUL ARCHITETURE. THIS REGION IS BEAUTIFUL ALSO BECAUSE IS A REAL BORDER BETWEN MITTLE-EUROPE AND BALKANS. ABOUT MILOSEVIC: I WAS VERY STIRRED FOR HIS FUNERAL, I WAS NEAR TO CRY. HIS HISTORY WAS VERY ROMANTIC, NOW HE IS INB THE SAME PLACE WHERE HE BORN AND HE KNOW HIS WIFE. WAS VERY STIRRED TO SEE THAT OCEANIC PEOPLES CRYING FOR HIM. I'M A RADICAL OF RIGHT BUT I LIKE MILOSEVIC WHO WAS SOCIALIST BUT WAS ALSO A PATRIOT. HE COMMITTED ALSO MANY MISTAKES BUT HIS LOVE FOR HIS COUNTRY IS WITHOUT DISCUSSION. MILOSEVIC SHOW HIS LOVE FOR HIS PEOPLES WHEN IN KOSOVO POLJE SAY THEM: "NEVERYBODY WILL TOUCH YOU". THEREFORE I THINK THAT CARLA DEL PONTE IS A PROSTITUTE AND USA ARE A GROUP OF CRIMINALS WHO HELP TUDJMAN WHO COMMITTED MORE MISTAKES THAN MILOSEVIC INSTEAD TO PROCESS HIM. MILOSEVIC WILL REMAIN IN MY HEARTH AND IN MY MIND FOR EVER, A ROMANTIC HERO LIKE HIM WILL LIVE FOR EVER. PROBABILY I'LL GO ONE OF THESE WEEKS IN POZAREVAC, WHO IS NEAR, TO GIVE HIM MINE HOMAGES AND TO PRAY FOR HIM, THE LAST HERO OF EUROPEAN HISTORY. GOD BLESS HIM.

Alex Belgrade		22-Mar-2006 10:21
Continued. You may be getting away with everything for now - but Serbia will regain Kosovo. We have lost it before and we got it back. We'll get it back again. And when we do, someday, you'd better watch yourself. Serbs have plenty of historical arguments to support their claim for Kosovo. The early Serbian state, the medieval empire, the Kosovo Battle of 1389, the heroic death of Prince Lazar, the myth, the epic poems, the churches - over 1.400 of them, and the fact that Kosovo has been part of the modern Serbian state since 1912, again in 1918 and again in 1945. So, Serbs have a lot of good reasons to claim Kosovo. Albanians have only one reason - they make the majority of the population, and they want a Greater Albania - why are you trying to hide this fact, everyone knows it. Our reasons are much more concrete. In any case, it has been 2 years since the Pogrom in Kosovo in March 2004. 30 churches have been destroyed, some from the 12th century. Nothing has changed in 2 years. While Serbs have been targetted for prosecution, Albanian TERRORISTS like Taci known as the Snake, Haradinaj or Ceku are holding key positions of power and are not prosecuted by the Hague. It's very sad that such a primitive, tribal people will get independence of a land that does NOT belong to them. I hate the fact that Albanians have come to this forum. You will make all Serbs leave. Why don't you go to an Albanian forum and take your filth with you. I would never go to an Albanian forum. Why would I want to go there, I would feel that I do not belong there. Just leave all of you and leave us alone. Tirana, the capital of Albania, and Pristina, the capital of Kosovo, will never be what Belgrade is - a respected capital of Europe. Just recently, the Financial Times has proclaimed Belgrade as the city of the future in SE Europe. Tirana will never be anything. You can boast your chests all you like but the facts are simple.

Alex Belgrade		22-Mar-2006 10:20
Tirana, You say Albanians have suffered under the Serbian system? And Serbs have not suffered under Tito and Milosevic? And what about the Serbs who have been terrorized for decades by Kosovo Albanians, and are almost extinct now in Kosovo, because of the current criminal Albanian system? Anyway, now you do not have the Serbian system anymore, you have not had it for 6 years- and Milosevic is gone, and has been out of the picture for several years, and yet Kosovo still remains the most criminal and unsecure area in Europe, it has not improved at all in 6 years. And will remain so for a long time. Tirana I do not hate you, because you display a sense of normalcy. I do not have many problems with Albanians in Albania - I have everything against Albanians in Kosovo who are taking a land that does not belong to them. What do you expect me to say when this guy Ilir Lika comes and starts insulting everyone, including me - which is understandable, but also Lee from London. Lee must have laughed very hard when he read all the bullshit that Leka wrote about him. Until 1941, the Serbian population was the absolute majority in Kosovo. Now things have reversed, thanks to WW 2, communism and Nato's bombing, and thanks to illegal Albanians in Kosovo. All these are facts as solid as rock. At least 40% of Kosovo Albanians were illegal immigrants before the 1998-9 war. Just like the US has so many illegal Mexicans. Just because Albanians make the majority now in Kosovo and for the last several decades, it does not mean Kosovo is historically theirs. It is not, and everyone knows it. Kosovo does not belong to them just because they have 10 children per family and have the majority. There are many regions where minorities are a majority and those regions do not get independence. From Corsica and the Basque region, to Kashmir, Chechenya, etc. Why should Kosovo be any different? If Kosovo gets independence, so should all of these. Remember that there are plenty of traces of the medieval Serbian civilization in Kosovo, from the 10th century onwards. Where are the traces of an early Albanian civilization? Nowhere. There are traces of TURKISH civilization, but not Albanian. That's because Kosovo has NEVER belonged to Albania, except under Hitler. You try so hard to twist the truth and you start believing in your own lies. Everyone in the world knows what Kosovo is and what it means to Serbia. You say that Serbia invested in Kosovo because Albanians paid taxes? Since when? Maybe in the first twenty years after WW 2. But they have not been paying taxes for a long time. Serbia now still pays Kosovo's debts - even though Serbia has officially no control of Kosovo (except on paper, and except in some Serbian enclaves that still remain).

Tirana		22-Mar-2006 08:51
Wow, i see that i have got an albanian patriot in here. What's up man? (Tung plako, me sa morra vesh je kosovar) ;) Lee, i generally agree with you but this time you too are talking stupid shit. Englishmen don't hate us Lee, well i mean there surely are people who hate us, but that kind of people hate all the strangers so you can't just say that they hate albanians...Oh i've got some english friends, and i know girls that "die" going out with me...they have no problem that i'm albanian, so...you got the answer (well i'm showing off a little bit, that's not good!). Anyways :) :) Alex, in the beginning you said that you didn't hate albanians because hate was a very strong word for you. But i've noticed that in the first occasion that comes to you, you show nothing but hatred, superiority and stupid nationalism, just like the one that you're blaming Ilir. Don't be hypocritical man, there's no need trying to act nice when you don't want to. Tell me that you hate me so at least we'll have all the cards in the table. According to what you said about the serb investment in Kosovo, do you really believe that it is so uncommon that you built things in Kosovo? Just an argument that closes this matter, who received taxes from Kosovo? Was it Albania? Oh it was Serbia, so it's normal that they should invest there. Haven't you got some economics courses in high school at least? ;) And it is true that Tirana is painted in flashy colors, but that's just because the city's mayor is an idiot. His clothes are like that too. Lol Streets have always been named, but it is a particularity of Albanians to show where they live in that way, because Tirana was not a big city and people knew each-other in general. And Alex you should go in an Albanian forum, you may find it interesting, really. Ilir and Leka, Hello guys i'm talking to youy in English so that the others can understand what we say. I know that you have suffered a lot from the serbian system and maybe there are members of you family who have been killed. I understand your hatred and i think that everyone in this forum would have acted the same, even Lee, Alex and everyone. So i have no right to tell you not to hate them, but at least don't express it here. There is no need for that, they know you hate them, they hate us, but we won't pass our life-times in this forum insulting everyone. Tell us something about you instead. Where did you live in Kosovo? What was life like there? Did you have many rights? So i mean what was the situation before the beginning of the war? Shume te fala nga Shqiperia, plako. Ja kalofshi mire dhe shendet.

LEKA		21-Mar-2006 23:01
to lee coleman ur not a english man ok ur a son of a chinese immigrant or other but not english man u told 2 ilir u got a land rover u got ur own bussines whatever what ilir said 2 u he was right ur one of pice of shit mother fucker smelly anf dirty living in housing estate or tower estate somevere in london and u telling 2 us albanian nobody like us bug off u dont know nothing about albanian because u never ever have a chance 2 meet albanian if ur a tough man come 2 west hampstead which is posh are of london there are some coffe shops and shoops run by albanian and tell them words like that they will fuck you up and chop u up like a lamb mother fucker cz a english man would not talk like that cz english man are tough people they come faca 2 face not like u mr lee coleman man like u are only serbs and greeks and gypsis so fuck off i like english people and they like albanian cz they know they did make a mistake in 1912 they hand over kosova 2 serbia so even MR TONI BLER said they are going to fiks a mistake they make in 1912 about kosova english people are more close 2 us by bllod then serbs cz serbs are gypsis from ukraine so u support serbs cz ur a serb ur self or maybe serb man fuck ur mum and ur half serb and half english so fuck off ...........

Alex Belgrade		21-Mar-2006 21:50
I've read recently that the Albanians in Albania had only recently started naming their streets - before that it used to be like "I live in the blue house next to a bakery" or "I live in the center house on the hill" etc. I also read that they sell their babies for a TV set. They say Tirana has been painted in flashy colors to make the communist grayness disappear, but aside from that the country is still desperate. Kosovo under Serbian rule was 1.000 times more developed than Albania. Now Albanians will ruin Kosovo. They have huge power cuts there, and Serbia does not. It's too bad Serbia had been investing in the development of Kosovo for decades. The roads, schools, hospitals, powerplants, factories, mines - it was all built by Serbia and the other republics of Yugoslavia. Don't tell me that Albania invested in Kosovo. Albanians are a people with a tribal way of thinking. Unfortunately, after Bosnia, we have another islamic state in Europe, and if Kosovo becomes independent, we will have 3 islamic states in Europe - states engulped in crime, drug trade, human trafficking, arms smuggling and terrorism, because the KLA is connected to Bin Laden. All in all, the entire Europe should be careful of these guys. We all know that the Albanian mafia controls some 40% of the entire European heroin market.

lee coleman (london)		21-Mar-2006 18:25
hi ilir , well i normally dont like to talk with children but you seem more like a baby to me .... for your infomation you impoverished third world criminal , Im english and i live in hampton ( thats the posh part of london to you boy ) i am part owner in a building renovation company i drive a land rover and i dont drink lager , i am all the things you will never be . I wouldnt even hire you to clean up after me . in fact nobody hires albanians thats why you are all so very poor and turn to crime ...and you cant even do that properly ... total amateurs . you talk very big and tough but you have no friends in this world everbody around you hates you , and when you leave your hovel of a country to enter illegaly into the UK or US you are hated even more , even the turks and chinese hate you . so my writing is bullshit eh ? ha ha , i think you will find its because you cant read or understand english . please leave this forum you are very boring and have nothing anyone wants to hear .

fr		21-Mar-2006 17:46
Another fascinating thing about albanians... They standardised their language in the XX century, that means that albanian knows its written language (letters and all) in the 19xx :) Befoure that they didn't have alphabet .... sad

fr		21-Mar-2006 17:42
Albania and economy is like pics to bird flue :) ... ILIR LIKA you albanians are far worse that gypsies. I would like to remind everyone that albania has a national sport its called beat up your woman (not kidding), they are proud of it. Albania is the worst developed county of Europe, and could be compared with many african states, Kosovo is much worse after the war, being albanian is one very sad sad thing..

Alex Belgrade		21-Mar-2006 06:55
ILIR LIKA You personally are a disgrace to Albanians and to the world. Just seeing your comments says enough about you and about your tribal state of mind. Get it through your head that Albania is the poorest, most backward country of Europe. Was, and still is. You are really stupid. It shows from a mile away. Why are Albanians coming to Serbian forums? I would never go to an Albanian forum. You do not belong here so take your tribal brain out of here.

ILIR LIKA		21-Mar-2006 02:15
i want to replay to msg of leesa colmenasis oi mate i think first of all you are not english cz your writting is a bullshit so you are not a english man even if you are you are one of those english people the lowest class people they leave at council houses eat junk food junk life etc.you blody homeless i can imagine what kind of man you are one serb refuge from bosnia or serbia or mix race cz a real english man would not talk like this about albanians maybe about african people yes i am very sorry mate but what i said was true and i am not gone a repeat again serbs are gypsy from india they moved to balkan from ukraine everybody knows that about serbs who they are exept some junk people like you of course they dont know never mind oi mate go to pub have some more lager fuck ur self and fuck off ok. " LONG LEAVE UNITED KINGDOM " now i am replaying to mrs alex how you doing you serb pig of course we already did build up a monument to pig miloshevich in the public toilet in prishtina in the hole of place were people urinate every day his photo is everywere in the toilets hole in great albania we shit his face every day even in my toilet were i live at prishtina i got his picture right on the hole were i shit his face yeah this is his monument about that pig so you got my answer donkey we dont ride any more cz we have the best cars in europe they are in kosova and albania GREAT ALBANIA donkey they ride only in the beach of ulqin juring summer holiday every donkey got a name in the ulqin some they got name millosh some svetllana some donkey we call oi you serb cz donkey they look like serbs so mate we dont have donkey any more in kosovo or albania yes donkey in the balkan you can see in greece and serbia but in great albania we have donkey only for tourist people so again LONG LEAVE GREAT ALBANIA LONG LEAVE UNITED KINDOM AND UNITETD STATE OF AMERICA RRNOFT SHQIPNIA E MADHE

lee coleman (london)		20-Mar-2006 18:09
hey ilir , first off i must say you are very lucky that stefan serb is not on this forum anymore because he would certanly tell you something in four letter words . second how old are you 12 maybe 13 .....? your writing and silly comments are very very childish and uneducated . thirdly you stupid inbreed tosser ...PLEASE dont make the big mistake of thinking england is somehow your friend ..what are you thinking mate ? are you really crazy ? we fucken hate you people here in the UK you are less than africans to us ,, we dont even like to hire you to sweep our floors ,, your people are a real problem here in london . NOBODY LIKES YOU IN ENGLAND . not the people or the goverment AND ENGLAND DOSNT SUPPORT ALBANIA OR ITS PEOPLE IN ANY WAY . get that thru your head you foolish child .

Alex Belgrade		20-Mar-2006 16:57
ILIR LIKA, You should give MILOSEVIC a big monument in Pristina. If he did not withdraw, you would not have gotten Kosovo. Your comments say more about you than anything else. Therefore I need say nothing more. Go back to your drug smuggling and gun totting business and take a donkey ride for me. And sleep in Hoxha's bunker.

ILIR LIKA		20-Mar-2006 07:13
remember one more thing you knoe what ISRAEL did to palestinians they took teritories from them we going to do same to you serbs cz those teritories are our land and you serbs gona pay with a lot blod we are going to cut you like a animal we going to take back again TOPLICA ,PUSTA REKA ,VRANJA,. PROKUPLJE, NISH all those use to belong to us but in 1877-1878 M OBRENOVICH took from us this lan i am one of the ancestors my great grand father come from TOPLICA from willage even todey still they called TMAVA is near BARBATOVAC i will come my self when the day come and settle ther in my on land cz is albanian land and you serbs are talking about KOSOVA forget it KOSOVA but we are gona take more land from serbs remember all you serbs pigs what i am sayingsome of you this coment you will take as a fun but it will happend remember that our day is coming for revange to serbs pigs

ILIR LIKA		20-Mar-2006 06:57
hi alex when pig milosevich die we albanian from united state of albania we had big party in our houses i am from prishtina i am proud i am albanian i like my flag cz is red and black we lost a lot blod for kosova fighting your army and chetnicks we have lost many KLA sodier especialy civilians cz you blody serbs all the time you fight with civilians but any way we have won the war our dream come true again for GREAT ALBANIA LONG LIVE GREAT ALBANIA you serbs are geting smaller montenegro is going away from you albania is geting the largest country in balkan we going to be second ISRAEL in balkan remember that and we are going to fuck all yours sisiters and mother we are going to give to you serbs a hell all the time you are going down with economy army etc... we are geting stronger and stronger cz we are albanian and we are ARIAN RACE not a gypsy race like you serbs you people come from russia , russian they cick you out of their country cz you serbs were all gypsy from india so we are the oldest people in europe ILLYRIANS (ALBANIANS) everybody knows about us so long leave UNITED STATE OF AMERICA LONG LEAVE UNITED KINDOM they all are our best friends and you serbs dont have any more friend not even russian any more exept other gypsy race GREEKS yes those people loke you cz they are gypsy to so alex you can see kosova only on news but never on your life you will have a chance to step a foot in kosova any more fuck all serb nation i like ur sisiter to fucks cz they look like indian women even do they are smelly serb women if i fuck i will put a mask on my mouth fuck all serbs RROFT SHQIPNIA E MADHE

Alex Belgrade		19-Mar-2006 08:14
One tragic era of Serbian and Balkan history is over. We must all look ahead to the future.

Vlad		16-Mar-2006 11:51
LAND IS OF WHO LIVE THERE AS THE FIRST. IF WE WANT A STABIL AND PEACIFIC EUROPE WE MUST ACCEPT THE ACTUAL BORDER WHO GENERALLY ARE RIGHT. I ALSO THINK THAT EXIST AN ALBANIAN MOVIMENT WHO WANT TO CHANGE THE BORDER OF THAT ZONE: AN EXAMPLE IS THAT AFTER KOSOVO ALSO IN MAKEDONIA (TETOVO) AND SOUTH OF SERBIA (PRESEVO, BUJANOVAC AND MEDVEDJA) MANY TERRORISTS AS UCK ATTACK VILLAGES AND KILL POLICE MEN. IN MY OPINION IF SERBIA DON'T WANT TO LOST KOSOV AND ANOTHER ZONES IT MUST TO DO A GREAT REFORM FOR MAKE A GREAT STRONG VOJSKA AS TITO'S ERA. BECAUSE AMERICANS UNDERSTAND ONLY THE LANGUAGE OF ARMY CAPACITY. IF SERBIA NOW HAVE A STRONG ARMY, I'M SURE THAT HOOLBROKE OR ANOTHERS USA'S LEADERS SPEAK IN ANOTHER WORDS.

Alex Belgrade		16-Mar-2006 07:08
LATEST ALBANIAN PROVOCATION (this time from Albania proper) Reacting to the Albanian Foreign Affairs Minister’s statement that "if Kosovo is granted independence, there can be no guarantees that its borders will remain permanent", is a clear signal that shows that the idea of creating a “Great Albania” is still on their agenda.

Alex Belgrade		11-Mar-2006 18:36
Stefan Serb, I am sorry for your loss. I only posted as a news item, so that people would hear the news, I did not mean to offend you by posting the news of his death. Regardless of our political differences, I respect you very much. I will give you time to grieve, but I would like you to stay on this forum. If you go, I will be the only Serb left to fight the Albanians and Hungarians here.

Vlad		11-Mar-2006 18:21
FOR TIRANA: IN THE PAST ALSO IN THE SOUTH OF ITALY WAS THE SENTIMENT OF VENDETTA. BUT 50 YEARS AGO. FOR EXAMPLE IN CALABRIA AND EXPECIALLY IN THE ZONE WHERE IS THE FAMILY OF MY FATHER, ALMOST EVERYBODY REASON AS THE REST OF EUROPE, EXPECIALLY THE YOUNG PEOPLES. ONLY 50 YEARS AGO WAS NOT A VERY "LAW" AS KANUN BUT A SENTIMENT WHO IN EVERY CASE NOW IS ALMOST DEAD. MY GRANFATHER THERE IN CALABRIA, TALK ME MANY YEARS AGO THAT THERE EXISTED UNTIL 50 YEARS AGO, IN THE ZONE OF ASPROMONTE, MANY KILLERS CALLED "BRIGANTI" WHO REASONED WITH ANCIENT SENTIMENT OF HONOUR, THE MOST DANGEROUS CALLED "ROCCO MUSOLINO" WHO HAD A WIFE VERY PRETTY. AFTER WW2 HE WAS CAPTURED BY POLICE AND ROME SEND ARMY AND "CARABINBIERI" (MILITARY POLICE) TO DEFEAT THESE BRIGANTI. NOW BY 50 YEARS ALL KIND OF SENTIMENT OF VIOLENCE MIXTED WITH WRONG KIND OF HONOUR, ARE FINISHED.

Vlad		11-Mar-2006 17:06
ALEX, TRANSYLVANIA DON'T WANT ABSOLUTELY INDEPENDENCE. ONLY HUNGARIAN MINORITY OF ALMOST 20% WANT IT, ROMANIANS AND GERMANS LOVE ROMANIA. HUNGARIANS IN EVERY CASE ARE LESS YEAR BY YEAR. THREE YEARS AGO THEY WERE 1,5MILLIONS AND NOW THEY ARE 1,4MILLIONS, AND THIS TREND CONTINUE. THEREFORE IN TRANSYLVANIA ISN'T THIS PROBLEM OF INDEPENDENCE'S REQUESTS. I WANT TO GIVE A LAST HONOUR TO A STRONG AND A PATRIOT MAN WHO UNFORTUNATELY LEAVE US: SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC, A MAN WHO DON'T SURRENDER TO ARROGANCE OF USA.

lee coleman		11-Mar-2006 14:01
At long last ........ now only radovan and rakto left to go and serbia can move forward and become a normal part of europe , my wife can travel freely and not get harrased and treated like a criminal at airports . LONG LIVE SERBIA !! work hard and prosper .

Guest		11-Mar-2006 13:14
My hero Milosevic is dead, I will never post on this forum again. Goodbye, Alex I will keep in touch by e-mail.

Alex Belgrade		11-Mar-2006 12:57
Tirana, Most of the citizens of Chechnya are for independence. The same applies to Corsica. Transylvania. West Papua. Catalonia. Basqia. Etc. Most of the citizens in each of those are for independence. However, that does not mean they will actually get it. Why should Kosovo be different? The war in Kosovo was not started by Serbia. You forget the violent Albanian demonstrations in the 1960s, in 1981, in 1989, in 1998. But, in 1998 the KLA - until then recognized by the Americans as a terrorist organization, went into full scale war with the LEGAL Serbian and Yugoslav state. You had many more rights than you deserve, many more than the Serbs in Kosovo have now under Albanian domination. The so called question of Albanian rights in Kosovo will not end there. Afterwards will come the Presevo Valley, FYR of Macedonia, Montenegro and maybe even Greece. Everyone knows this and yet you live in denial.

Alex Belgrade		11-Mar-2006 12:51
BREAKING NEWS SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC HAS DIED IN THE HAGUE, MOST PROBABLY BECAUSE OF HEART PROBLEMS. HE HAS HAD A HISTORY OF HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE. HIS LAWYER HAS CONFIRMED THE NEWS, CARRIED BY ALL WORLD AGENCIES AND MEDIA. I AM GIVING THIS AS A NEWS ITEM, NOT COMMENTING ON IT. PLEASE LET US NOT START DISCUSSING MILOSEVIC NOW.

Tirana		11-Mar-2006 10:25
Vlad, i wasn't talking only about "sarano famosi" but also about "amici" and even Sanremo where an Albanian took part. I know that this doesn't change many things, but in my opinion if medias want to do something nowadays they can because people are mostly influenced by them. By the way, my friend told me about that building in Bucarest. It is enormus, he said the Europe's Pentagon. Grazie per la correzione ma non sono molto forte nel scrivere l'Italianno perche non abito in Italia, ma lo capisco perfettamente ;)...EE in grand parte lo imparato dalla TV. Ciao Alex, I know that it wasn't all about rights, but com'on there are many places in the world where minorities seek their indepence (ex: the Basques in Spain, Corse in France) and there have been no wars. Why in the hell it happened only in Yougoslavia and why exactly under Milosevic? I'm sure that if people in Kosovo had the same rights that Serbs, the same economic development, there maybe wouldn't have been a war. But when a population is discriminated, well, all you can expect is war. Why nothing happened under Tito? Was it becacause of the falling of communism, i don"t know. But one thing is clear that at the moment when war started they had too few rights and don't tell me that it was the West's fault. All Serbia should blame Milosevic for that, and as i previously told you everything constructed may be destroyed very fast. Stefan, you are perfectly right about the "Kanuni i Leke Dukagjinit" and you are perfectly right that this mentality exists in Albania. But, i must say that firstly it exists only in the northern part of Albania, in villages "cut" from the rest of the country because of geographical conditions (amongst mountains etc). Secondly do you really think that if this situation exists, it is proper only to Albania? If you didn't now, or if you didn't want to know, this situation exists in all the South Italy. Go in southern cities like Palermo, Messina, Napoli, Cagliari and please only insult someone (it is not necessary to hit him) and we'll see what will happen to you. Haven't you ever heard the term of "vendetta". Where do you think it comes from idiot? Oh so now according to your demonstration Italy should be expelled from the EU...Bla bla bla...Jeez how can people be so idiot? :) I hope you're only a particular case in Serbia, because otherwise i'll be worried for all of you. Oh, and by the way suck my dick asshole ;)

Alex Belgrade		11-Mar-2006 00:30
Stefan Serb, Actually I think Milosevic is doing a very good job in the Hague. I think Carla del Ponte does not have the case and she knows it. All she can do is grab Milosevic by the balls. Or maybe he can grab her by the balls?? :) :) LOL She looks like a Terminator on dope. What I am mostly unhappy about is the 13 years of Milosevic's rule - from 1987 till 2000, especially the decade of the 1990s. It has been a disaster by each and all means. It's not all his fault, of course, the West had a biug role in dismantling Yugoslavia, as did the other communist leaders of Yugoslavia, but he was the man in charge of Serbia, therefore I hold him most responsible. I had spent the best years of my growing up. Instead of having a normal life, my country disappeared, I was surrounded by wars which "we did not fight", and which we lost, living in hyperinflation, isolation, histeria and a brutal dictatorship. Not to mention the Nato bombing. Oh, that was such an INSPIRING moment of my life. I lost a cousin in the war only to see Krajina fall like a house of cards. My sister and some very good friends left Serbia - some went to Chicago, some to Munich, some to Calgary, not to return here forever. So, you see, my friend, I have PERSONAL reasons not to like Milosevic. It's not about what he believes in, what party or program he represents. It's about the fact that he took the best of my youth years, and the best years of the entire young generation, and he ruined those years in every way. It's about my life, my cousin, my friends. Needless to say, not a single modern Serbian ruler had ever had such a score of losses, in such a short period of time. Believe me, I know a lot about Serbian history. But, anyway. That's history now. We've got to move forward and out of the shit hole that we have sunk in. I've really had enough problems. I want to live my nice, little, happy life. That does not seem possible. Sometimes I just want to go away to a distant island somewhere and just forget about everything, about who I am, where I am from, about the things that have happened. I just want to be somewhere else, to be someone else. Being a Serb is a big burden. But, after a while I realise that I can't run away from myself, from who I am, from my background. Serbia is not to blame. It is the unfortunate times and unfortunate people, as well as unfortunate circumstances. Inspite of all that, I still love Serbia from the bottom of my heart. Promise me one thing. If and when we meet, I do not want us to discuss politics at all. I do not want to argue with you. I respect you. Now I should get some sleep. Bye.

Alex Belgrade		11-Mar-2006 00:11
Stefan Serb, Of course we are all different and we all have the right to choose one political option over another. That is normal in most places in the world, and we should respect one another, including our political differences. Political figures will come and go, but Serbia will remain. What is great is that you and me - and hopefully others - are working on doing something for Serbia, which we all love sincerely and passionately. You are right, what makes us love our country so much, I am not sure. I think it's because of the soul, spirit and heart. Serbia is not the richest and most developed country in Europe, but it definetely has the above characteristics, it has SOMETHING, some wibe, that I had not found in the West. Something makes me atracted to this place. I can't explain it in words, but my heart knows. You know that saying: Za Otadzbinu sve na kocku, ali Otadzbinu nikada na kocku. Translated: You can risk everything for your Homeland, but you can never risk the Homeland itself. Enjoy your paperwork :) Have a good night, my friend and Serbian brother.

Guest		10-Mar-2006 21:33
Cao brate, I hope now Serbs have finally realised that we can only do well for ourselves when we are united, a perfect example is me and you, I am a Milosevic supporter where-as you hate his guts, I can't ever support your view and understand why you think that way but we are still brothers and share one common interest to push Serbia forward. We are both great patriots and care for our nation with enormous passion and love. It is irrelevant to me which political group a fellow Serb supports, he is a Serb regardless of that. We are all Nationalists, I don't know what makes each of us so crazily devout to our great nation but something does, it seems to be something nly Serbs and Russians share. Anyway, I must go now as I have some important paperwork to do so good night my brother. Puno Pozdrava iz Londona; Stefan SERB LONG LIVE SERBIA AND GREECE!!

Alex Belgrade		08-Mar-2006 02:44
Stefan Serb, Welcome back my friend. For a minute there I thought you got sick of everything and just left. In that case, I would be the only Serb here fighting the Albanian-Hungarian coalition. I could handle it fine, but it's nice to see you back. I try to be diplomatic and argumentative in most times. Of course, whenever I hear the word Kosovo, my heart bleeds and my soul hurts, like it hurts when I hear the word Krajina... Even I sometimes say things that just come out, because of emotions, but most of the times I try to control my language and my feelings (hurt, anger, pain, sorrow). Sometimes these feelings are all mixed at once. You are right, Serbia will never regain its empire and neither will Austria-Hungary, nor Greece, nor Rome, nor England. Empires are a thing of the past. That, however, does not mean that ONLY Serbia should keep on losing its territories. To whom? To the islamic primitive hordes that are taking over the Balkans now, as they will be taking over Europe tomorrow. Why did we create Yugoslavia in the first place in 1918? All 3 Yugoslavias have cost Serbs 3 million people- in the end the disaster is obvious. Serbs are torn apart in several states and have disappeared from their ancestral lands. Why did we allow Communism in the first place, it was an ideology completely foreign to what Serbia is and has been? Why did we allow Tito to fool us like that? Why did we forgive the Croats in 1918 and 1945, each time forgiving their genocide and their war reparation obligation? Why did we let a man like Milosevic lead us to complete destruction and isolation? Many questions. No answers. I guess we need to become smarter. Serbs are very naive. Serbs should look in their hearts and souls, and should look after their own interests, not the interests of the world's players. Why THE HELL did we bleed for the Allies both times, to be betrayed like that. Like I said, many questions, no answers. All I know is that many future generations will have to fix our mistakes from 1918, 1945 and 1990. I do not think there will be war in Vojvodina. First, the Hungarians are more cultural and more civilized than Albanians. They will not dare go to open war. Besides, Serbs make the majority in Vojvodina. There will be some incidents, some heat, perhaps Hungarians will complain to the European Court of Human Rights, bla, bla, trying to score some points, but on the whole, Hungarians are at a higher civilizational level - economically, and in their mindset, to resort to open war. They will be cunning and will play behind our backs, as always, but they pose no direct threat to us. Like you said, Albanians still have that blood feud (literally "eye for an eye"), they have that caveman mentality, they carry guns from a small age and their "economy" is mostly financed from criminal sources. I do not know about Albania, I have not been there, but I know about Kosovo. Seems like the scum of the planet is running the show. Tachi, called "the Snake", Cheku... all murderers and criminals.

Alex Belgrade		08-Mar-2006 02:19
KOSOVO NOT READY FOR INDEPENDENCE "Politically or economically, Kosovo is not ready for independence", said Sylwester CHRUSZCZ, a Polish member of the European Parliament, after visiting the Province. He said that other European MPs from Greece, Hungary, Italy and other countries share the same view. "People who do not respect human rights on which European values are based, can not run an independent state in the European family of nations. Serbs in Kosovo are cut off from Serbia proper. They are without power and running water for as many as 23 hours a day, and they are without the freedom of movement, unsafe in their homes and on their property. This is beyond a minimum of normalcy, and below any human dignity. Monuments of Serbian cultural and historic heritage, as well as religious objects and graveyards, are being destroyed. Under such conditions, there is no understanding, no tolerance, no humanity, and therefore there should be no chance for such an entity to gain international recognition and independence. "While the European Parliament debates on the human rights issues in Africa, Iraq, Iran, Tibet, it has neglected the human rights issue in the heart of Europe, in Kosovo. Unless a broader debate is started soon, Kosovo's Serbian population will suffer a humanitarian catastrophe".

Alex Belgrade		08-Mar-2006 02:16
Zoltan, True, "bez" and "gora" are Slavic words, but the word BOZGOR or BEZGOR does not exist in the Serbian language. Tirana, Albanians have had a bigger autonomy in Yugoslavia than Serbs had in Albania. Albanians had schools in Albanian, even a University, an Academy of Sciences, they had their language and freedom of religion (more than in Albania itself), everything officially was billingual, even flags of Albania were allowed to be used etc. The Albanians even participated in the Presidency of Yugoslavia so all this talk that they had no rights is incorrect. But, they created parallel systems of authority, they boycotted the population census, later on they boycotted serving in the Yugoslav Army, they boycotted paying taxis and created "alternative finances", they boycotted the elections...Tito had given Albanians more rights than they deserved, and from day one the Albanians disrespected and hated the country they were part of. When their violence escalated, their autonomy was removed by Milosevic. When it escalated even further, the Serbian police and Yugoslav Army had to intervene, as would have been the case in every country if it were faced with Albanian separatism and terrorism, as Serbia was faced with, for DECADES. Unfortunately, in order to kiss ass of oil producing islamic countries, and because of the powerful Albanian lobby financed by drug money and other criminal activity, Nato supported the Albanians. That will come back like a boomerang to the West. At one point the Albanians will want Nato out, they will want Kosovo's minerals for themselves. At one point, the West will realise how wrong it was to create 3 muslim states (existing Albania, a new state of Kosovo and a new state of Bosnia) in the heart of Europe. But, that will be the West's problem. Don't deceive others - the Kosovo problem did not start because of Albanian "rights". Whoever looks at all those maps of Greater Albania that were captured by Serbian police in Kosovo, will realise that all this is not at all because of "rights", but because of Albanian expansionism - separatism which later escalated to terrorism, which later was proven to have ties with Bin Laden. Look at the case in Presevo Valley, FYR of Macedonia, Montenegro, Greece. In each of the cases Albanians claim their "rights" to be in jeopardy. When you give them rights, they want autonomy, when you give them that, they want a Republic, when you give them that they want full independence. When you give them that, they want to connect that Republic with Albania proper. The "rights" are just an excuse. In any case, Serbs in Kosovo have zero rights today. When Kosovo was under Serbia, Albanians had bigger rights than Serbs have now, when Kosovo is under UN and Nato and the Albanians. Frankly, at the moment Kosovo is the most criminalilized and lawless part of EUROPE now, and Milosevic is out of the picture, so guess who is responsible for the biggest mess in Europe now - in Kosovo - its majority population, ethnic Albanians.

Vlad		07-Mar-2006 21:16
PEACE ALSO TO YOU MY OTHODOX BROTHER STEFAN, IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. DON'T WORRY FOR THE PRESENT SITUATION, OUR TWO COUNTRIES ARE PROUD AND STRONG AND THEREFORE OUR FUTUR IS WILL BE GOOD. THE FIRST RESULTS ARE PRESENT SINCE NOW: OUR TWO MOTHERLANDS HAVE A GREAT ECONOMICAL GREW AND WITH OUR CHRISTIAN ORTHODOX VALOURS I'M SURE THAT WE CAN PROGRESS WITH DIGNITY AND WITH PRIDE. DON'T CARE ABOUT ZOLTAN, IS ONLY AN HUNGARIAN AND THEREFORE HE CAN SAY ONLY STUPIDITIES. MLADIC AND KARADZIC ARE ALSO IN MY OPINION TWO GREAT HEROES, THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT WEST PEOPLES DON'T CONSIDER THE ROMANTICISM OF BALKAN. I HOPE THAT MLADIC ISN'T NEAR THE CAPTURE AND I ALSO THINK THAT HE MUST KILL HIMSELF INSTEAD TO BE CAPTURED AS SAID TOMISLAV NIKOLIC. I'M GLAD THAT YOU RED MY THINGS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF INDO-EUROPEAN FAMILY. O-ZONE ARE FROM REPUBLICA MOLDOVA BUT THEY DON'T COMPOSED AFTER THAT SONGS MORE ANOTHERS. ABOUT KOSOVO THIS IS MY OPINION: YOUR ONLY WAY IS TO APPLY YOUR MOTTO "SAMO SLOGA SRBINA SPASAVA". SEE YOU AS SOON

Guest		07-Mar-2006 19:52
Tirana, 'You may have heard of the so-called "Gjakmarrje" (Bloodfeud) which is still present in northern Albania. Traditionally bloodfeuds date back to the 1300's and only become 'regulated' by the Code of Lek Dukagjini in 1400's (Kanuni i Lek Dukagjinit). This is a book containing rules that have goverened northern Albania for over 500 years. They are still applicable in the north although not as fanatically followed as before. The rules touch upon most aspects of life like marriage, family, religion, death etc. The rules also legitimate bloodfeud, although it needs to be conform ancient rules: children and women are not to be touched! Thus if there is a quarrel about land and a male from a family gets killed than the victim's family has the RIGHT to kill another male member of the murderer's family (or the murderer himself). However, they are not allowed to attack the house in which the males will be confined (probably for the rest of their lives unless the 'blood is forgiven').' Are you sure you are even in Europe? Fuckface.

Guest		07-Mar-2006 19:17
Vlad and all others, Have you seen this video clip of some fat guy dancing to the Romanian pop-hit O-Zone - Dragostei Din Tei which was also a smash hit over here in 2004 before Euro 2004. http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/numa.php Regards Orthodox brother.

Guest		07-Mar-2006 17:25
Hello everyone, I am back after a short period of holidays away from a computer and I have to say it was very relaxing without all of you (only joking lol). Alex, How are you? I see that you have continued to be diplomatic in your answers which I ALL agree with. In case you guys didn't know, a few months ago the Vojvodinian Hungarian shits had their claim to regain its autonomous status dashed by the EU. A smart mve, although it is not certain how long Vojvodina will remain peaceful, especially after Kosovo inevitably gain their unlawful independence. Regards my Serbian brother from Belgrade. Zoltan, Come on man, don't be so god damn ignorant, you should be so so grateful that Hungary is better off than Serbia and Romania in terms of the economy and look for ways to further develop your industries (such as tourism in Budapest, remove all that fucking graffiti and improve your transport, basically you need to clean it up) rather than trying to take back the land you lost from being on the wrong side of WWI, most of the lands you invaded and conquered weren't yours so fuck you, you will never get your shitty empire back, it's like saying Serbia will get it's medievil empire back, it just won't! Leave Vojvodina to us, it is actually much better than it was 80 years or so ago (contrary to your claim) and the reason that you have progressed ahead of us is quite obviously the war and the West's hate for us. If, and I know it is a long shot for you, but if Yugoslavia never broke up, it would certainly be one of the best countries in Europe and dare I say in the World. But now that you've fucked off I see that there was really no point in me posting this LOL. Regards from London nevertheless. Tirana, Suck dick you scummy piece of shit. You Albanians have no good reputations throughout the World, you are well known for having no dignity and an inferior caveman mentality. You have no pride as a man and are ALL savagely untamed, you belong in a zoo my friend. Suck my dick you piece of shit. Vlad, How are you? I have read all your posts and I am intrigued that you know the roots of all the races of Europe dating back 1000's of years, I do not know so much detail. All I know is that Serbs seem to be an entire different race to everyone else, to only be effective under someone else's rule. There is a saying, Serbs are only good for three things, for a gun (war), for rakija (pure Serbian spirit made from plums) and pasulj (delicious Serbian caserole). It is sad that we have been attacked by so many people over the years and that we now must start from day 1 in building our once great nation up again. We are slowly developing but not fast enough in comparison with the West. At least we will always be above Albania (he he). Serbs only seem united in the face of oppression, as soon as we are free we fuck everything up again. I am still baffled as to why the Serbs (who had paid such an enormous fight for the freedom of Europe) let a fucking Croat lead us???????????? WHY? Because we are magarce (donkeys), all I know is that even though all of this is true, I still have a huge nationalism for Serbia, it is undescribable, I love all Serbs so much, it is amazing such a destroyed people are so kind to EVERYONE, it is almost wrong. Peace to you my Orthodox brother. LONG LIVE SERBIA AND GREECE!! I hope we never surrender our greatest heroes Gen. Mladic and Karadzic!!

Vlad		07-Mar-2006 15:58
HONOUR TO GENERAL MILAN BABIC, IN LIFE A LION AND IN THE DEATH AN HERO.

Vlad		07-Mar-2006 15:47
TIRANA, I LIKE YOUR INTENTION TO DON'T CREAT A NONSENSE DISCUSSIONS, AND YOUR ENTER IN THIS FORUM PERMIT TO ME AND ALEX TO BECOME FRIENDS AFTER A SMALL WAR. I DON'T HATE ALBANIA AND ITS PEOPLES, ONLY I BELIEVE BEFORE THAT YOU WANTED TO BEGIN SOME INSULTS WITHOUT SENSE. SOME YOUR ALBANIAN FRIENDS STUDIED IN BUCHAREST AND I'M SURE THAT THEY ALSO SEE THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS OF OUR CAPITAL: FOR EXAMPLE THE PARLIAMENT WHO IS THE SECOND GREATEST PALACE OF THE WORLD WITH 10000 ROOMS, THE REAL PALACES, THE OLD CENTER, ETC... CERTAINLY IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW TO UNDERSTAND THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS OF A PLACE. ABOUT ITALY: IN EVERY CASE THE COUNTRY OF MY FATHER IS A WEST COUNTRY, AND CERTAINLY THERE ARE ALSO MANY PROBLEMS WITH ALL FOREIGN COMMUNITIES, BUT THEY AREN'T A XENOPHOBIC PEOPLE, THEIR ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT THEY SEE IN TV ONLY UGLY THINGS ABOUT BALKAN REGION. WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT ALBANIANS WHO PARTECIPE IN ITALIAN TV PROGRAMS, CERTAINLY YOU WANT TO REFER TO "SARANNO FAMOSI". SO, I DON'T THINK THAT ITALIANS CONSIDER THESE THINGS. I KNOW VERY WELL THIS MY SECOND PEOPLE AND I KNOW THAT THEY CONSIDER THEIR DAYLY RELATIONS WITH ANOTHERS AND NOT TV. FOR EXAMPLE, MINE ITALIAN COUSINS PRESENT ME MANY FRIENDS IN ITALY WHO HADN'T A BAD OPINION ON US, AND ALSO MORE OF THEM LIKE OUR SIMILAR LATIN LANGUAGE AND OUR CULTURE, MORE OF THEM WERE IN ROMANIA IN THE PAST FOR THEIR HOLIDAYS. I ALSO SEE SOME ITALIANS WHO HAVE BAD OPINION ON US BUT I DON'T CARE ABOUT IT BECAUSE WERE ONLY A MINORITY AND BECAUSE CERTAINLY NEXT YEAR AFTER OUR EU'S INTEGRATION WITH MORE POSSIBILITIES OF CONTACTS, WE HAVE MORE POSSIBILITIES TO KNOW OUR QUALITIES. I HAVE ALSO ITALIAN FRIENDS WHO VISIT ME LAST YEAR HERE. CERTAINLY ALSO WITH ALBANIANS THEY MUST HAVE THE SAME ATTITUDE: THEY HATE ALBANIAN WHO COMMIT CRIMES, AND THEY LIKE ALBANIAN WHO WORK HONESTLY, BUT CERTAINLY THEY DON'T LIKE ALBANIANS ONLY FOR A TV PROGRAM. MI FA PIACERE CHE ANCHE TU PARLI ITALIANO, RIAMBIO I TUOI SALUTI E SPERO TU ABBIA COMPRESO LE MIE IDEE. IN OGNI CASO TI FACCIO UNA PICCOLA CORREZIONE: NON SI DICE "CONOSCIERE" MA CONOSCERE SENZA I. TI SALUTO

Guest		07-Mar-2006 14:06
Vlad and Alex, Sorry guys but I have to leave the topic because I mustto do some more serious businesses than to waste my time with you motherfuckers. However, to wrap the comments up Belgrade looks pretty nice, Romania is fucking filthy and impoverished, and Hungary borders with itself (i. e. the occupied territories). Good luck Tirana. Cheers Zoltan

Tirana		07-Mar-2006 13:55
Vlad, you always take things in first degree. First if you want me tell you why Hungary is doing actually better than Romania, i'll use the same argument that you used against me : Well they are already part of the EU while you're not! Oh it's a bad thing that you already had the answer and you couldn't realise it! ;) Secondly i was not saying to you that Albanians are better than Romanians. It's nonsense, we can't generalise. Some Albanians are better than Romanians and some Romanians are better than Albanians. This is reality man. But we can argument about the country situation as a whole. Where did you see in my answer that i defended that Albania was better than Romania? I didn't say that so why do you invent things? In my opinion Romania is more developped than us, it's a fact, and you showed it, but that doesn't make Romanians superior. Some friends of mine are studying in Bucarest and i know what's like living there (wages are inferior even to Albania so it makes it easy for an Albanian to stay there) so there is no need for you to tell me things. According the Albanians in Italy it is true thatwe don't have a good reputation, but it's getting better day after day. If you were there you would understand because many Albanians take part in some TV shows and are becoming popular, so opinions may change. But don't tell me that Romanians have a better reputation than us. It is not true and i have no reasons to lie, cause i have never lied since i firstly came here and for more delicate matters, why should i be lying now? Ps: I perfectly understood what you told me in Italian and i speak 3 more foreign languages so don't be upset for me. Tanti saluti Vlad Galante ma non pretendere di conosciere piu di tutti. Alex, Well you first argument about people living happily in Yougoslavia seems so irrealistic that makes me laugh. Yes happily, com'on you know it! You told that Albanians in Kosovo had total freedom. That's not true neither and you have admitted that in some of your previous posts. They coudn't learn Albanian language, they couldn't have Albanian televisions, they couldn't represent the Albanian minorty in Parliament...yes yes they were free. Don't make me laugh! I will tell you that i'm sorry that churches are damaged because it's part of our common history, but you know, i can expect things to be like that after all what had happened. The Kosovo independance doesn't depend on you Alex, nor on Serbs, we'll wait what will be decided and if you won't recognise it, who gives a shit, FUCK YOU TOO! (i simply answered to your comment) Finally you are making a big mistake about considering Serbs superior to Albanians, because you just can't. I believe people are superior to each other by their personal merits and not just because they are Serbs or Amercans. So do you believe that you are superior to me? Oh it would have been an excess of self confidence. So Alex read also the comment i made to Vlad about this point and don't make such mistakes again, it's better for your reputation. But yes, Serbia is doing better than Albania. I admit that! But be careful because people destroy things very easily, and it needs years or centuries to rebuilt them back! As you said we shoudn't care what westerns think about us. I wasn't talking only about westerns, we human beings live in society so we will always try to behave as other behave, to some extent. It's totally normal, so don't say me that you don't give a shit what people think about you. You even want your own people, Serbs, to have a good opinion about you. Thats a fortiori extended to other people. Take care

Vlad		07-Mar-2006 12:26
OH THANKS VERY MUCH BOZGOR FOR YOUR PRECISATION. THE FACT THAT YOU THINK TO THIS STUPID THINGS INSTEAD TO CARE ABOUT THE REAL ARGOUMENT THAT I SAID BEFORE, IS THE DEMONSTRATION THAT YOUR STUPIDITY IS THE TYPICAL ASPECT OF YOUR INFERIOR PEOPLE, THEN I MUSTN'T SAY ANYMORE ABOUT YOUR INFERIORITY BECAUSE YOU OWN SHOW VERY WELL THIS.

Guest		07-Mar-2006 10:27
Vlad, Etimologically the term BOZGOR has slavic roots and comes from BEZ=without and GORA=mountain, country. So much about the nature of Romanian innovation and originality. The Hungarians prefer ROZGOR instead, which means (Ro)man without motherland. Cherrs Z.

Vlad		06-Mar-2006 19:57
BOZGOR=MAN WITHOUT MOTHERLAND, THIS IS THE MEANING.

Vlad		06-Mar-2006 19:27
BOZGOR IS AN OFFENSIVE DEFINITION OF HUNGARIAN. THEY HATE TO BE CALLED IN THIS KIND. DEAR ALEX, OUR TWO PEOPLES ARE VERY CIVILIZED TO DON'T ANSWER TO THEIR PROVOCATION, BUT THIS NOT MUST MEANING THAT IN NEXT FUTUR THEY CAN TO CONTINUE THEIR PROVOCATIONS. I ALSO SAW THAT ALSO A SERBIAN MINISTER WENT IN VOJVODINA TO CANCEL PERSONALLY SOME GRAFFITI WITH SLOGAN ANTI-BOZGOR. ALSO HERE IN ROMANIA IF POLICE PUNISH BOZGOR'S ACTIONS THEY CRY TO EUROPEAN COURT OF HUMAN RIGHT. SEE YOU SOON

Alex Belgrade		06-Mar-2006 18:48
What's a BOZGOR? I haven't heard of that word in English :) In any case, Vlad is right. There was a Hungarian so called rock concert of the so-called Karpatia group, in 2004 in Vojvodina, in the town of Mali Idjos,and the young Hungarian fascists, concealed as visitors to this "concert", wore everything black. They saluted the Nazi salute and Serbs there were terrified. The Hungarians spread the flag of Austria Hungary and Greater Hungary. They chanted Hungarian nationalist songs on the territory of Serbia. Serbian police did not react, because the Hungarians wanted just that - to provoke an incident. After that, the leader of that movement was proclaimed personna non grata - he could not enter Serbia again, and he complained about his human rights?! Using a so-called concert to directly promote Nazism is not very nice, but Hungarians do many things just to try and internationalize the former Austro-Hungarian territories presently in Serbia, Romania, Slovakia etc. And Hungary is using these issues because it has the advantage since it is in the EU and Serbia is not, so Hungary can always put on the agenda the question of "Hungarian rights" in Vojvodina. I have been to Vojvodina and saw that people of many ethnic communities live side by side in harmony. I saw freedom of language expression, press, gathering, normal life etc. But, Hungary, for its own political points, whenever there are elections in Hungary, uses the question of territories and "rights", and uses its position in the EU to additionally put pressure on Serbia.

Vlad		06-Mar-2006 15:41
ZOLTAN, YOU'RE THE DEMONSTRATION THAT YOU BOZGORI ARE ATTACKED ON THE BALLS FOR EVER...YOU'RE VERY VERY BORING. I DON'T LIKJE TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT HAPPEN IN ANOTHER COUNTRIES BUT I KNOW VERY WELL THAT YOU BROTHERS OF THERE SAYS THE SAME CRAZY THINGS THAT SAY HERE: "HUNGARIANS ARE THE FIRST INHABITANTS OR HUNGARIANS ARE PERSECUTED, OR HUNGARIANS NEED RIGHTS"ETC... DON'T SAY THAT YOU'RE LOVED IN SLOVAKIA OR IN ANOTHER COUNTRIES, SAY FOR EXAMPLE IN YOUR "DUNA TV" HOW ALSO SLOVAKS LOVE YOU: IN AN HUNGARIAN MANIFESTATION IN KOSICE, MANY SLOVAK NATIONALISTS SHOOT YOU ONLY MOLOTOV. DON'T SAY THAT EUROPE IS A PART OF ASIA ONLY TO QUITE YOUR INFERIOR COMPEXES. INDO-EUROPEAN FAMILY IS AN ONLY FAMILY BORN IN VOLGA'S ZONE CENTURIES AGO, A ZONE WHO WAS ALSO KNOWN AT THAT TIME AS INDIA. THIS FAMILY CAME IN EUROPE AND THERE ITS EVOLUTION CREATED MANY DISTINCTIONS BUT THE ORIGIN IS THE SAME. YOU HUNGARIANS ARE A VERY VERY TOTAL ASIAN PEOPLE, BECAUSE YOU COME FROM MONGOLIA THE HEARTH OF ASIA, WHILE VOLGA IS THE LAST ZONE OF EUROPE, WHO IN THE TRADITIONAL THEORY IS BETWEEN ATHLANTIC OCEAN TO URALS MOUNTAINS. SLAVS, LATINS, SAXONS, GETICS /(DACIANS, THRACIANS, SARMATIANS), GREEKS ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF THE INDO-EUROPEAN FAMILY. BASQUES, ILLYRIANS, ARE AUTHOCTONS AND FINALLY HUNGARIANS, FINNISH, ESTONS AND TURKS ARE THE LAST PEOPLES WHO ARRIVED IN EUROPE AND THEY ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF UNNO-TATARS FAMILY OF MONGOLIA. HOW CAN YOU SEE FINNISH IS DIFFERENT THAN ANOTHER LANGUAGES OF SCANDINAVIA AND ESTONS IS DIFFERENT THAN ANOTHER BALTIC LANGUAGES. BUT FINNISH, HUNGARIANS AND TURKS ARE SIMILAR LANGUAGES, FOR EXAMPLE IN FINLAND IS A TOWN WHO ARE CALLED "TURKU", AND A TYPICAL HUNGARIAN NAME IS ANTAL, AND HOW CAN YOU SEE IN TURKEY IS A REGION CALLED ANTALYA. THEREFORE WE ARE AN INDO-EUROPEAN AND YOU NOT. THE FACT THAT YOU'RE THE LAST PEOPLE ARRIVED IN EUROPE IS THE REASON THAT YOU AREN'T THE FIRST ORIGINAL PEOPLES OF NEVERYWHERE, YOU ARE THE FIRST ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF MONGOLIA AND STOP. ALSO HUNGARY BEFORE YOUR ARRIVE WAS A SLAVIC REGION, BUT WHEN KING OTTON I OF SAXONIA DEFEAT ATTILA, HUNGARIANS WAS OBLIGATED TO LIVE IN THE WEST PART OF THE PRESENT HUNGARY, AFTER THEY DEFEATED BEFORE SLAVIC KING "SVATOPLUK". AFTER THAT IN THE NEXT CENTURIES YOU ALSO BEGIN TO COME IN ANOTHER COUNTRIES AS SLOVAKIA, ROMANIA, VOJVODINA, CROATIA, UKRAINE, SLOVENIA ETC... YOU ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN'T LIVING IN PEACE WITH ANOTHERS. FOR EXAMPLE, IN TRANSYLVANIA, GERMAN MINORITY LIVE IN PEACEFULLY AND FRIENDLY WITH US, THEY HAVE ALSO MANY POLITIC MEN ELECTED BY MANY MANY ROMANIANS, AS KLAUS JOHANNIS AND DANIEL THELMANN, ALSO UNDER COMMUNIST REGIME THEY HAD THEIR IMPORTANT REPRESENTANTS AS GEORG MAURER AND ANNA PAUKER. I ALSO HAVE MANY FRIENDS OF GERMAN MINORITY WHO SPEAK VERY WELL ROMANIAN, WHILE HUNGARIANS ARE GOOD ONLY TO CRY FOR THEIR "PERSECUTIONS". THE TRUTH IS THAT WE ROMANIANS ARE A CIVIL PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO LIVE IN PEACE WITH ANOTHERS, WHILE YOU BOZGORI ARE EVER IN FIGHT AGAINST US, SLOVAKS (KOSICE EXAMPLE IN DUNA TV), AND IN VOJVODINA WHERE AN HUNGARIAN REVISIONIST BAND "KARPATYA" COME IN SUBOTICA FOR A MUSICAL CONCERT WITH HORTYST SONGS, AND SERBS WERE LIKE US VERY CIVIL BECAUSE THEY DON'T ANSWER TO YOUR PROVOCATIONS. NOW, STOP TO CRY FOR YOUR FANTASY OF PERSECUTIONS AND BEGIN TO BE SERIOUS IF YOU WANT TO LIVE WITHOUT THAT APARTHEID WANTED BY YOU. CHEERS

Guest		06-Mar-2006 15:03
Vlad, Just to continue the who is first and who is second game. The funny part of the thing is that the ancestors of Slovaks had been in the same region before the arrival of the Hungarians and we are happy with that. Also the Croatians had been there before the Hungarians arrived. In fact the Croatians themselves asked for Hungarian asistance and apart from 1848/49 there was no war between the two nations as it was also the case with the Slovaks. Many of our leading figures were of Croatian and Slovak origin and we do not mind. To be honest I don't know what you mean by the term Asian. Europe itself is part of Euroasia and many Asian countries are not only much better off than your impoverished paradise but are also historically and culturally far superior. The case with Vojvodina is funny because after the 1848/49 revolution as a revenge the Habsburgs established a Serbian territory but to the dismay of most Serbs it was governed in German since they only made up one third of the population. Anyway I can live with Dacians although they would be pretty offended if they learned to whom they serve as origins. Zoltan

Guest		06-Mar-2006 15:02
Vlad, Just to continue the who is first and who is second game. The funny part of the thing is that the ancestors of Slovaks had been in the same region before the arrival of the Hungarians and we are happy with that. Also the Croatians had been there before the Hungarians arrived. In fact the Croatians themselves asked for Hungarian asistance and apart from 1848/49 there was no war between the two nations as it was also the case with the Slovaks. Many of our leading figures were of Croation and Slovak origins we do not mind. To be honest I don't know what you mean by the term Asian. Europe itself is part of Euroasia and many Asian countries are not only much better off than your impoverished paradise but are also historically and culturally far superior. The case with Vojvodina is funny because after the 1848/49 revolution as a revenge the Habsburgs established a Serbian territory but to the dismay of most Serbs it was governed in German since they only made up one third of the population. Anyway I can live with Dacians although they would be pretty offended if they learned to whom they serve as origins. Zoltan

Vlad		06-Mar-2006 13:53
OH MY POOR BOZGRO ZOLTAN, HOW YOU ARE BORING...YES, YES YOU'VE RIGHT. BLA, BLA,BLA...HUNGARIANS HERE, HUNGARIANS THERE ETC... WE CAN CONTINUE FOR EVER TO SHOE OUR POINT OF VIEW, BUT OF COURSE WE REMAIN FOR EVER IN TOTALLY OPPOSITE SIDES. YOU THINK THAT WE AREN'T DESCENDANT OF DACO-ROMANS? FOR ME ISN'T A PROBLEM YOUR OPINION, BECAUSE HISTORY, OFFICIAL AND UNOFFICIAL SAY THAT I THINK THE TRUTH. IN EVERY CASE YOU ARE FULL OF ENEMIES IN THIS ZONE OF EUROPE, BECAUSE THE SAME SITUATION THAT YOU'VE HERE IN TRANSYLVANIA YOU HAVE ALSO IN SLOVAKIA, IN VOJVODINA, IN UKRAINE ETC..., IF YOU'VE RIGHT IT MEANING THAT YOU ARE THE FIRST ORIGINAL INHABITANTS ALSO OF SLOVAKIA, VOJVODINA AND WEST UKRAINE. FOR EXAMPLE SLOVAKIA WAS TOTALLY UNDER YOUR POWER ON HASBURGIC EMPIRE, AND IN YOUR STUPID AND CRAZY MIND, THIS MEANING THAT TOTAL SLOVAKIA IS IN THE TRUTH A REGION OF HUNGARY, OR TOTAL CROATIA IS A REGION OF HUNGARY, WHILE YOU ARE IN ROMANIA, SLOVAKIA, UKRAINE AND CROATIA ONLY A MINORITY. YOU'RE HERE SINCE YOU'RE ALSO IN THESE ANOTHERS COUNTRIES: AFTER UNNO-TATARS INVASION, AND THEREFORE AFTER THE ORIGINAL PEOPLES. NOW THINK ALL THAT YOU WANT MY ASIAN DONKEY, BUT I'M NOT INTERESTING IF YOU GIVE ME RIGHT BECAUSE MY BEST FRIEND IN THIS SITUATION IS HISTORY. CHEERS

Guest		06-Mar-2006 11:23
Vlad, The question whether Trianon is justified or not is a-historical. It was a bad treaty that mostly lacked wisdom and foresight since even the victors themselves (USA, GB, FRA and IT) did not see it in terms such as justice or injustice. It was a treaty of revenge in a true Clausewitzian manner. In case you examine the physic aspects of figures in the Traian Column in Rome you should have eagle-sharp eyes and a great deal of fancy because due to its age most figures are rather worn. Mister Evola I think must have been pretty old (1700 years or so) if he could observe that Romanians had the same physiognomy than ancient Dacians (i. e. two legs, two arms, one head). By the way it appears to me that Adolf and Co. also applied a similar methodology. Maybe this explains why you refer to a German person. What you regard as majority of intellectuals and official history probably applies for inside Romania. Otherwise the Daco-Romanian continuity theory is generally known as pretty weak with Romanian historians being rather infamous for their creative and uncritical way of treating Romanian descent. Anyway, I am not angry at all. Should we speak of any feeling, than it is better to use the term SADNESS. In other words, Transylvania has seen much better days and deserves more than just being a caricature of itself. The Romanians make up the majority of the population and the cities, towns and everything look accordingly. The question of who is inferior and who superior is always subjective. In case Romanians are so superior I suggest you to teach most of your brothers and sisters first how to use a flushing closet properly. You know becoming superior requires hard work and within this process even small steps are pretty helpful. Cheers Zoltan

Alex Belgrade		06-Mar-2006 06:26
Thank you Ana. Serbia needs all the good hearted people on its side it can get. The Balkans in general are very complex. The past and the present are entangled in a terrible mess. Inspite of it all, here one will feel the warmth of the people. I am devastated that my country, first Yugoslavia, and now Serbia, is being torn apart so ruthlessly by the West, and always the Serbs are to blame. That is a terrible injustice and it's simply not real, not possible, especially if one knows the other participants in the Balkan conflicts. It takes two to tango. So I thank you for your kind words. All the best, Alex

ana		06-Mar-2006 01:01
Alex, Thank you for pointing out the complexities of the former Yugoslav states. Sometimes living in the West is terrifying.. In that we are no longer able to distinguish anything real, with the exception of perhaps, as you mention, a preoccupation with money. I left Belgrade as a child and although I refuse violence from any direction, I still feel the overwhelming, consuming Enormity of the injustice faced by Serbia and Serbs- everyday. Unfortunately for me, a self-confessed hypocrite in many ways, I do care about what people think of Serbia. I do desperately need and want all people to know the Extent of this injustice.. Furthermore I believe that this will be the only way forward in the future. CAVE CANEM. Ana

Alex Belgrade		04-Mar-2006 06:31
Vlad, Thank you for those nice comments. Tirana, Why are you so obsessed with what the people in the West think about Greeks, Romanians, Albanians, Serbs... In several of your posts you mention how you think the West views Greeks, Romanians and Albanians. Who cares? Why should I care about what someone in Germany or Britain or USA should think of me. I know that most of them have no clue as to what happened in Yugoslavia, and I know that I have my own personal prejudices against the Germans, British or Americans. Why is there such an obsession regarding what others think? Personally, I don't give a shit. Those people do not even know me as a person, and they have been fed so many lies by their media about my country, that I just stopped caring what they think. I think it's because of such a long period of total Albanian isolation and backwardness that you are obsessed with what others think of you. Personally, I don't think the West values anything or anyone, except money. So, they do not like any of us from the Balkans. I don't think they think about us as individual nations and peoples, they just think the Balkans are a primitive backdoor of Europe full of nationalisms, as opposed to their "civilized" West, which drops bombs and kills innocent people, in the name of "humanity" and "democracy". The West is full of shit.

Vlad		03-Mar-2006 20:14
ALEX, THANKS FOR THE FACT THAT YOU ALSO KNOW THE TRUTH. I FOLLOW ON EURONEWS THE SITUATION OF GEKU, AND I THINK THAT BORIS TADIC HAS RIGHT TO SAY THAT HE'S A FACTOR OF INSTABILITY IN BALKANS. I ADD THAT IF WEST PERMIT TO HIM TO BE PRIME MINISTER OF AN INEXISTENT STATE, UCK IS CERTAINLY HELPED BY US ARROGANCE WHO SHOW ITS STUPIDITY BECAUSE IT DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT UCK IS THE SAME OF AL QAEDA FOR IDEOLOGY AND FOR ACTIONS. HAVE A NICE EVENING MY OTHODOX FRIEND.

Alex Belgrade		03-Mar-2006 19:04
From the US Senate: Bosnia - an Islamic State http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm#top From Siri-US Institute: Senator Bob Dole and Albanian Money http://www.siri-us.com/backgrounders/Archives_Kosovo/Dole-Kosovo-KLA.html

Alex Belgrade		03-Mar-2006 18:59
AGIM CEKU - KOSOVO'S PRIME MINISTER From a Croat Officer to KLA Commander - in each case he killed Serbs Ceku joined the newly formed Croatian military (HV) in 1991 during that region's effort to secede from Yugoslavia. He quickly rose to the rank of brigadier general... Jane's Defense Weekly credits him with helping to orchestrate Operation Storm and the Medak offensive, which involved the cleansing of ethnic Serbs from the Krajina region of Croatia, the deliberate shelling of civilians, rape, and systematic arson. According to an Amnesty International report, “Croatia: Impunity for killings after 'Storm,'” nearly the entire ethnic Serbian population of the region, estimated to be at least 180,000 people, fled in face of the attack. Hundreds of civilians were murdered, most of the victims being elderly and disabled persons who were unable to flee. The report estimates that 5,000 structures were torched by the advancing Croatian army. According to a BBC translation of a May 14 Croatian news report, Ceku issued a statement saying: “There is only one way out. And we have advocated it from the very beginning: a final defeat of the Serbian army and its expulsion from Kosovo; a defeat similar to the one they [the Yugoslav army] suffered in Croatia.”

Alex Belgrade		03-Mar-2006 18:52
Vlad, What you said is true. If Albania is doing so well, how come Romania will enter the EU in 2007, and Albania will not. I have nothing more to add here. Tirana, Vlad does not need my help. He is taking perfectly good care of himself on his own. With that last remark, I think he said it all. IF ROMANIA WILL BE IN THE EU IN 2007, AND ALBANIA WILL NOT BE IN THE EU FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG, HOW CAN YOU EVEN SAY THAT ALBANIA IS BETTER, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, THAN ROMANIA. I would like to hear your comments, Tirana. Please enlighten us all. I am looking forward to your answer very much.

Alex Belgrade		03-Mar-2006 18:44
Tirana, What you have written here is a bunch of balloni, but let's take it one at a time: What did you say? That Croats, Bosnians and Albanians fought for FREEDOM? Well that's a laugh. HA HA HA HA HA. They had all the freedom in Yugoslavia, everybody lived happily until they decided to break that country apart. Slovenia and Croatia had a big sponsor - Germany and the Vatican. Muslims had Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Albanians had America. They all wanted to tear apart Yugoslavia for their own reasons, now that the Cold war was over, and there was no need for a strong Yugoslavia to balance between the East and the West. Can't you see? NO, the war in Yugoslavia was not for Serbian power. The cause of war was not the desire for freedom, because Yugoslavia had been functioning perfectly well for 50 years. The real cause for war was brutal secessionism, fueled and sponsored from the outside - Croats had been getting weapons from Hungary way before things got ugly. In Kosovo it was terrorism. Every country in the world would try to protect itself - yes, by using military intervention, if necessary. We have been suffering from Albanian terror for as long as we can remember. For decades. Even the State Department had listed the KLA as a terrorist organization for a while, until the Albanian lobby bought a lot of influence in Washington, with drug money. As for the desecration of a church, you justified that with those cartoons. For your information, no Serbian media had published the cartoons, but the Albanians still desecrated a church. So, it's not about the cartoons. In any case, I think the whole cartoon business went out of proportion - I mean, after all, it's STILL a cartoon, and in Kosovo churches and graveyards are being physically DESTROYED. If Muslims across the world are offended by a bunch of drawings, and they make violence, burn flags, storm buildings, even kill people (such as in Nigeria), what should Serbs be doing? Do you expect us to just sit there and applaude you for stealing our centuries old land away from us? Are you insane? Do you expect us to roll out the red carpet for Ceku, who has murdered Serbs in Croatia and in Kosovo? Do you want us to just recognize Kosovo's independence. That will NEVER happen, so FUCK YOU. For your information, Stella is a Greek American and Mary is totally American. Perhaps you should read some of their stuff instead of talking trash. You have absolutely no knowledge about what went on in Yugoslavia, other than the "knowledge" you get from Christian Amanpour - CNN and the like. And also, I do not think Serbs are superior, I just love my country deeply and passionately, that's all. But, now that you mention it, we are superior to you. The fact is, Yugoslavia was in Tito's time far superior than Albania. Even today I think we have a better quality of life, with a higher standard, better overall lifestyle etc. Serbia has fought on the right side in both world wars as opposed to Albania, and that's something nobody can deny. Serbia has been internationally recognized before Albania, so I think we have plenty of reasons to feel superior to you. You can believe whatever you want. Serbs are evil monsters and Albanians are wonderfull, innocent little angels. HA HA HA HA HA HA

Vlad		03-Mar-2006 18:15
TIRANA, I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND, BUT YOU CANNOT SAY THAT HUNGARIANS ARE BETTER THAN US WHILE I SHOW YOU ALL THE REASONS BECAUSE IT IS THE OPPOSITE. DON'T SPEAK ABOUT ITALY. MY FATHER IS ITALIAN FROM CALABRIA, AND MY FAMILY NAME IS GALANTE. HE WORKED IN ITALIAN EMBASSY IN BUCHAREST AND SINCE 26 YEARS LIVE HERE. EVERY SUMMER I GO IN CALABRIA TO MY COUSINS AND THERE AND ALSO IN PUGLIA PEOPLES HATE MORE MORE ALBANIANS THAN ROMANIANS. ALSO BECAUSE MAJORITY OF ROMANIANS WORK THERE HONESTLY, WHILE ALBANIANS ARE KNOWN FOR THEIR CRIMES IN NORTH ITALY WHERE THEY ATTACK THE HOUSES OF BUSINNES MAN AND IN SOUTH THEY OFFEND ITALIAN GIRLS. MY COUSIN SHOW ME A PHOTO OF FEW YEARS AGO WHERE ARE MANY ALBANIAN SHIPS FULL OF MEN WHO TRY TO COME IN ITALY IN THE ZONE OF OTRANTO. ALSO NOW I DON0'T WANT TO OFFEND NEVERYBODY, BUT YOU CAN'T SAY US THIEVES OR THAT WE HAVE AN UGLY REPUTATION IN WEST, WHILE YOU ARE KNOWN EVERYWHERE AS CRIMINALS OR THIEVES OR AS PERSONS WHO KILLED ONLY FOR TWO SHOES. ANOTHER POINT, I HAVEN'T NEED TO AN HELP FROM ALEX OR ANOTHERS, BUT A GUY FROM A COUNTRY WHERE ARE ALSO NOW A KANUN LAW AND A GUY FROM A COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLES EXPECIALLY IN SCUTARI LIVE WITH KALASHNIKOV CAN'T SAY TO MY PEOPLES THIEF, ALSO BECAUSE IF IN WEST YOU HAVE BETTER REPUTATION THAN US WHY WE COME NEXT YEAR IN EU, WHILE YOU LIVE ALSO TODAY IN HOXHA'S BUNKERS? ITALIANS SAY: "RISPETTO GENERA RISPETTO" (RESPECT CREATE ANOTHER RESPECT". STAMMI BENE SCHIPETARO, IMPARA A RISPETTARE CHI NE SA PIù DI TE! THIS IF YOU KNOW ITALIAN.

Tirana		03-Mar-2006 16:38
Alex the authors that you mentionned are they Greek or with Greek origin? If yes, it shows a lot about their impartiality! :) :)

Tirana		03-Mar-2006 16:34
Alex, I saw what you previously wrote about the church in Kosovo and without meaning to justify their action, maybe it was also because of the caricatures of Mohammed. I mean, for a population who is mostly muslim, it was a way to show their anger (remember what happened in Syria, Liban etc.). I know that it's stupid, but i prefer damaging churches than killing people. Also, don't think that we don't know that all sides commited crimes during the war. It's logical that's why it is called a war. But the aims and meanings make the difference. Croats, Bosnians and Albanians fought for freedom, whereas Serbs fought for power. I mean in every country there maybe problems like that, but they try to solve things differently by means of diplomacy, whether you didn't. That's why Serbs are severely punished. Oh i'm aware that if it had been a big country instead of Serbia the result would have not been the same (for exemple if it was Russia or Germany or USA), but you my friend, did the mistake to think that you were untoucheable, and it's this excess of superiority that you show about other nations that will make you loose everything! You're not better than any other nation in the Balkans, each one having its good and bad sides, so for the sake of your country stop acting like this... Vlad, what was wrong with you? I asked you a question and you had a bad reaction :). Com'on man don't be a child! Seeking help from Alex? :) Now that you know about the Kanun law, don't come to Albania or you'll be dead. Buuuu Buuuuuuuu :):)..;hahaha joking Hey do you know that my physical training teacher was Romanian? He had a fitness center, he was a good guy and that's why i have not a bad impression about Romanians. I must add something : you are excellent thieves (i mean they have this stereotype of Romanians in Western Europe). I heard that in Italy you should never buy things in stores, but you should ask a Romanian to get it for you and you pay it half price. :) Viva Romania

Alex Belgrade		03-Mar-2006 15:19
Zoltan, Don't just say that ONLY Serbs waged a nationalistic war in the 1990s. So did the Croats, Bosnian Muslims and Kosovo Albanians. Contrary to the popular belief in the West, created by mass media in the service of the New World Order, Serbs did NOT start the war in Yugoslavia. The war started when Slovenia removed border signs of Yugoslavia and placed border signs of Slovenia. At the time, Yugoslavia still existed as the only legal and internationally recognized entity. In Bosnia, the first victims of the war were a Serbian family which was fired upon during a wedding procession. Nationalisms were everywhere. Croatia even sold EPMTY CANS on which it was written: "Pure Croatian Air". We never had the degree of such madness. All sides had committed crimes, as is the case in every civil war, but only Serbia was repeatedly punished, to a point that is unreal. Either you have absolutely no idea as to what really went on in Yugoslavia, or you are fed up by world propaganda. Read some articles of Stella Jatras and Mary Mostert and perhaps then you will realise just how many times the West had twisted the facts, the causes of the breakup, and even made up lies and falsifications about Serbs.

Vlad		03-Mar-2006 14:00
ZOLTAN, YOU CAN FOR EVER TO SAY ME THESE WRITERS, I ALSO CAN SAY YOU ANTOTHERS, BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT YOU BY YOURSELF ADMIT THAT YOU'RE MINORITY. WE ARE ROMANIANS , WLACHS IN ANOTHER DEFINITIONS BUT EVER THE DESCENDENT OF DACO-ROMANS, ALSO IF YOU WANT TO FIND SOMEBODY WHO SAY THE OPPOSITE FOR QUITE YOUR ANGRY FOR THE JUSTICE DAY OF TRIANON. ALSO LUDOVICO ARIOSTO A GREAT ITALIAN WRITERS SAID THAT DACIA WAS POPULATE SINCE BEFORE ROMAN EMPIRE THERE, AND ALSO THE PHISIC ASPECTS OF ACTUAL WLACHS ARE THE SAME OF DACIANS IN THE TRAIAN COLUMN IN ROME. ALSO JULIUS EVOLA, A GERMAN INTELECTUAL WHO STUDIED THE ETHNIC COMPOSITION OF EUROPE SAID THAT WHEN HE MET CODREANU AND WHEN HE CAME IN BUCHAREST HE OBSERVED THAT WE ROMANIANS HAVE THE SAME PHISIONOMY ASPECT OF ANCIENT DACIANS. SO, YOU CAN CONTINUE FOR EVER TO BELIEVE IN YOUR ABSURDED THEORY, WHO ARE REAL LIKE "SANTA KLAUS", BUT HISTORYC BOOKS, AND THE MAJORITY OF INTELLECTUALS AND FINALLY THE OFFICIAL HISTORY SAY THAT WE ARE DACIAN DESCENDENTS AND WE ARE THE FIRST ORIGINAL POPULATION IN TRANSYLVANIA. I'M SORRY FOR YOU , BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE ANGRY AND DESPERATE FOR THE FREEDOM OF TRANSYLVANIA BUT I DON'T THINK THAT YOUR THEORY OR YOUR ABSURD OPINIONS CAN CHANGE THE JUSTICE OF TRIANON. I'M SORRY, VERY VERY SORRY...... CHEERS

Guest		03-Mar-2006 13:21
Vlad, To which I refer is an excerpt from a book titled: DU NAY, ALAIN/DU NAY, ANDRÉ: TRANSYLVANIA, FICTION AND REALITY, 1997, HAMILTON - BUFFALO It is freely available online at www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/pas/index.htm. It is worth for a quick skim even for you. Cheers Zoltan

Guest		03-Mar-2006 13:01
Vlad, Without going too deep into the debate of who was first and who was the runner-up here some information. The earliest documents mentioning Rumanians or Wlachs in Transylvania date back to the early 13th century. As a deed of gift by king Béla and written in 1250 it mentions an army that was made up by Szeklers, Saxons, Petchenegs and Wlachs. This army was sent in 1210 by king Endre II to help the Vlacho-Bulgarian emperor Assen. It also stated that these Wlachs were shepherds living in the area of Szeben (Sibiu) serving as frontier guards of the Hungarian king. Further documents that mention Wlachs in Transylvania from the 13th century are as follows: 1. In a document from 1222, the Teutonic knights are given by the Hungarian king Endre II the privilige not to pay customs when transporting salt through the territories of the Szeklers or the Wlachs (cum transierint per terram Siculorum aut per terram Blacorum) who lived around Kerc (Cârta). 2. King Endre II confirmed in 1223 the ownership of a land of the monastery at Kerc, a land taken from the Wlachs (terram quam prius eidem monasterio contuleramus exemptam de Blaccis). However, it is questionable whether Wlachs living here were a sedentary population, since no Rumanian placenames are mentioned in this document. 3. King Endre II defined in 1224 the privileges and rights of the Saxons in the Diploma Andreanum. In essence this documant was equivalent with the Golden Bull (Aranybulla). The Diploma Andreanum gave the Saxons the right to use a forest of the Petchenegs and the Wlachs (silvam Blacorum et Bissenorum cum aquis usus communes exercendo cum praedictis scilicet Blacis et Bissenis). In the period before the Tartar invasion (1241) only these four documents mention Rumanians or Wlachs, all of them living along the southern border. They were most probably shepherds serving the Hungarian king as frontier guards. In these early documents they are consistently called Blaccis, Blacis. I don' think that we should accuse Hungarian kings living in the 13th century with nationalism. Cheers Zoltan

Guest		03-Mar-2006 12:34
Vlad, One book is one book. Another example is the Baldinus codex that states that most cities even beyond the Carpathians had in the 17th century a roman catholic population. For the question of who was in Transylvania first I suggest you to read writings from bishop Micu-Klein who lived in the 18th century and can be seen as one of the forefathers of the Daco-Romanian contonuity theory. The last official Romanian (!) population counting revealed that Transylvania still has a rough 20 percent Hungarian share. In other terms people who regarded themselves to be Hungarian made up 20 percent of the population of about 7,2 million inhabitants. Fact is also that the cities and towns show a clear Western-European character that changed only after 1920. Honestly, I suggest you to travel through the Regat and Transylvania and you will see clear differences. My impression is that the more we move to the Eastern part of Europe the more aberrated the idea of a nation becomes. Consequently, we face increasingly agressive nationalisms that partly explain why the war in Yugoslavia could brake up. Cheers Zoltan

Vlad		03-Mar-2006 12:10
ZOLTAN, YOU CAN SAY OF COURSE ALL THAT YOU WANT, BUT IF YOU LIKE HISTORY YOU MUST STUDY THE BOOKS OF "POSSEVINO", AN ANCIENT ROMAN HISTORIC WHO LIVED IN TRANSYLVANIA. HE SAY THAT HERE DACO-ROMANS (ACTUAL ROMANIANS) ARE THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF THIS REGION. HERE DACIANS HAD ITS CAPITAL SARMIZEGETUZA REGIA, AND WE ARE IN TRANSYLVANIA 80% OF TOTAL POPULATION, THE REST 20% AREN'T ONLY HUNGARIANS BUT ALSO GERMANS AND ANOTHERS. SO, YOU CAN COMPARATE THE SITUATION IN TRANSYLVANIA WITH THE SITUATION IN KOSOVO, BECAUSE WE ARE THE ORIGINAL AND FIRST POPULATION OF THIS REGION, WHILE HUNGARIANS CAME ONLY IN MEDIEVAL'S ERA. DON'T TRY TO DO THIS FALSE AFFIRMATION WITH ALEX TO CONQUEST HIS SIMPATY, BECAUSE HE KNOW HISTORY BETTER THAN YOU AND HE KNOW VERY WELL THAT HUNGARIANS OF ANOTHER COUNTRIES ARE THERE ONLY FOR THEIR MEDIEVAL INVASION. SO YOU CAN COMPARE THE SITUATION OF HUNGARIANS OF TRASYLVANIA WITH THE SITUATION OF HUNGARIANS OF VOJVODINA AND NOT WITH KOSOVO. ANOTHER POINT: WASN'T ME TO BEGIN INSULTS, I LIKE TO SPEAK WITH CIVIL WORDS, BUT YOU START TO OFFEND MY MOTHERLAND

Guest		03-Mar-2006 09:08
Alex, Then its great because we can exchange ideas in a way that is pretty different from the original bla-bla fuck bla-bla suck dick bla-bla bozgor bla-bla shit bla-bla. The unfortunate point is that history is not my passion. To some extent I can understand you because Hungary suffered afther WWI a great loss in terms of territory and population. The situation you face in Kosovo is similar to what we have with Transilvania. But again, this is history and don't be sure that also the current borders will last forever. History is a very dynamic process that sometimes yields favourable results for you and sometimes not. You desribed the Albanians as a "bunch of drug trafficking and arms smuggling islamic criminals and terrorists" but don't forget that for example Jovan Cerni who has a statue in Szabadka is for most Hungarians a simple criminal. In fact, he was beheaded as such by the Hungarian captain Balint Torok in 1529 in Tornyos. The sad reality is that you waged war in the 1990s for nationalistic purposes, which were at least for me stupid, obsolete and senseless. You lost 15 years and you still risk some more in case Karadzic and Mladic will not find their way to The Hague. Many commentators mentioned that Yugoslavia was a paradise compared with Hungary in the Cold War. However, this is a dangerous generalisation: for sure it takes hold for Slovenia, the coastal part of Croatia and the Vojvodina. I am not sure that it equally applied to Serbia proper, Macedonia, Montenegro and Kosovo. Cheers Zoltan

Alex Belgrade		02-Mar-2006 20:04
Zoltan, I neither love Hungarians, nor hate them, so we are even. In 1848 Serbian Vojvodina was created, in Sremski Karlovci. It comprised of Srem, Banat, Backa and Baranja. It was disbanned in 1860 and connected to Hungary. 80 years ago, prior to WW 1, the Kingdom of Serbia had been comprised of Shumadia and Macedonia. In 1918, Vojvodina was UNITED with Serbia at the Grand Assembly and also united with Serbia were Bosnia and Hercegovina and Montenegro. Macedonia was already part of Serbia, so was Kosovo, before the unification with Vojvodina, Montenegro, and Bosnia. Slovenes and Croats declared their own state of Croats, Slovenes and Serbs. It united with the Kingdom of Serbia on Dec 1, 1918, and thus the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes was formed, renamed into Yugoslavia in 1929. It is true there has been some colonization - Tito had let many Serbs from Bosnia settle into Vojvodina, and many Folks Deutschers (German minority) were kicked out after WW 2.. But, dont forget that the Hungarian and Croatian genocide of Serbs, during both world wars, had also changed the demographic population. Kosovo is something you will never understand. Just think about it - would you give away a thousand years of your history, your entire collective and national memory, the myths, the epic poems, the history, the holy sites. Would you give away a place where your country and your religion were born? And to whom? To a bunch of drug trafficking and arms smuggling islamic criminals and terrorists? For God's sake, they appointed Agim Ceku as the new Prime Minister of Kosovo. Ceku participated in the ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Krajina, as he fought on the Croat side. He was "KLA" commander, and, until 1998, the US Senate had classified the "KLA" as a terrorist organization. And now he is the PRIME MINISTER. Ridiculous.

Guest		01-Mar-2006 12:01
Alex, Just another point: I neither hate Serbs nor like them. Zoltan

Guest		01-Mar-2006 09:13
Alex & gguest, I don-t think that history is that black and white, I also don't believe that only Serbs have fought heroically while others just slept. If your passion is Serbian history than I suggest you to study it at a university in Belgrade. It would also be very interesting to combine it with some international relations stuff such as diplomacy, power politics and so forth. It is really interesting and maybe one day it helps you get rid of your biased view. The Hungarian Kingdom fell in 1526 in Mohacs, the Turks took our capital city in the 1540s. It is also true that Hungary became part of the Habsburg Empire. However, even at that time the area that is now called Voivodina was not part of Serbia. It was administered by the Viennese Chamber as a kind of buffer zone against the invading Turks. It is also true that many Serbs migrated to there and served as frontier troops sometimes successfully, sometimes not. Another issue is that the population of a given area can change significantly during the centuries. This mechanism also explains why Kosovo is now Albanian. Voivodina had a very interesting ethical composition before the Serb occupation (for you unification or re-unification if you like). It had a rough one third Hungarian, one third Serbian and one third German population. The forced migration of Serbs resulted that now they make up 65% of the population and the Hungarians only 15-20 % (this figure is estimated). Apart from some spiritual things why is it impossible for you to accept that the same mechanism turned Kosovo in an Albanian region? Anyway, it appears to me that should both Montenegro and Kosovo seceed than apart from Voivodina you are not better off than 80 years ago. Thats history. Cheers Zoltan

Alex Belgrade		01-Mar-2006 07:06
Zoltan, Austria-Hungary was a creation that occupied most of its lands. Hungary was always used to belonging somewhere, under someone's tutorship, instead of ruling its own country. First your tutor was Austria, then the Soviet Union. Very miserable. Serbia has never had any tutors. In 1389 it said no to the Turks. In 1914, it said no to Austria-Hungary. In 1941 it was the first to say No to Hitler. In 1948 it said No to Stalin. In 1991 it said NO to American imperialism and the New World Order, which led to the bombing in 1999. Serbia has always been fighting for its freedom and the freedom of its lands. Serbs have a very proud history of saying No tu tutors, and they pay a huge price for that. And Hungary, Croatia etc they embrace tutors. Vlad, Stefan hates Tirana. I don't hate him. I don't hate anybody. I dislike Croats and Albanians, but for me hate is too strong a word.

gguest		28-Feb-2006 15:21
You hungarians are really stuped people.. Hungaria was a nazi regime and as long history could remember you where on "the bad side", but you are not guilty you're stupidity is guilty, you always like to be a part of a larger county, to be ruled, never to rule your country by your own hands. So don't you compare Kosovo with Vojvodina in the way you did, Kosovo was never albanian(exept in the first ww i think) in the early XX century it was 30% of albanians in Kosovo, and now its like 95% with 2.000.000 albanian people living there. Vojovdina was always inhabited by majority serbian people. You hungarians should be ashame of your history, especially in the XX century. But you paid, SSSR did a fine job there.

gguest		28-Feb-2006 15:17
You hungarians are really stuped people.. Hungaria was a nazi regime and as long history could remember you where on "the bad side", but you are not guilty you're stupidity is guilty, you always like to be a part of a larger county, to be ruled, never to rule your country by your own hands. So don't you compare Kosovo with Vojvodina in the way you did, Kosovo was never albanian(exept in the first ww i think) in the early XX century it was 30% of albanians in Kosovo, and now its like 95% with 2.000.000 albanian people living there. Vojovdina was always inhabited by majority serbian people. You hungarians should be ashame of your history, especially in the XX century. But you paid, SSSR did a fine job there.

Guest		28-Feb-2006 13:59
Alex, Which lands did not belong to Austria-hungary? Bosnia appears to me only. Croatia had been in personal union with Hungary since the 12th century and most Serbs migrated to the Voivodina in the 16th century as they fled from the Turks. Zoltan

Vlad		28-Feb-2006 13:37
TIRANA, I'M PROUD TO LOVE IRON GUARD BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN ITS GREAT IDEAL. YOU MUSTN'T SPEAK ABOUT ROMANIA OR HUNGARY OR SERBIA WHILE YOU LIVE ALSO TODAY UNDER "KANUN LAW", A LAW WHO SAY THAT IF YOUR FATHER KILL MY FATHER I MUST KILL ALL YOUR FAMILY. THIS IS AN AFGHAN LAW NOT EUROPEAN. ZOLTAN: FINALLY, NOW WE CAN KNOW YOUR NAME. NOW I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU CANNOT ANSWER ME, THIS SHOW THAT YOU ADMIT THAT I SAID THE TRUTH. WHILE I DON'T ANSWER YOU ANYMORE, ONLY BECAUSE I CANNOT SPEAK TOO WITH AN INFERIOR RACE OF ASIAN MONKEY AS YOU. IRON GUARD, MY DEAR TIRANA, IS THE MOVEMENT FOUNDED BY OUR GLORIOUS IDEOLOGICAL FATHER, MARSHALL ANTONESCU WHO INVEDED HUNGARY TO DEFEAT COMMUNIST REGIME OF BèLA KUN. ALEX, NOW I KNOW REALLY THE REASONS WHY YOU AND STEFAN HATE TIRANA. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD

Alex Belgrade		28-Feb-2006 13:37
Tirana, History is the teacher of life... so the proverb goes. And then someone came and raped our teacher :) Those nations that do not hold to their past, cannot have much to hope for in the future. As for the Yugoslav wars, blaming everything on Serbs is just stupid. What happened in Yugoslavia was a bloody civil war on historic, ethnic and religious lines. What happened was an illegal and violent secession of various Republics. If Krajina was given back to Croatian control, by the same principle Kosovo should be given back to Serbian control. If Kosovo gets independence from Serbia, Republic of Srpska should get independence from Bosnia. What we have here is a bunch of double standards by the so called international community. As for the war crimes, it's funny an Albanian should tell me about war crimes. Every side in the Yugoslav wars has committed crimes, not the whole people. You did not comment on the latest desecration of a Serbian church in Kosovo. The whole world went nuts because of 12 CARTOONS of Prophet Mohammed, and Serbian churches are being desecrated on a daily basis and nothing happens. As for Zoltan. You say - we still have Vojvodina, we should give us Kosovo. Vojvodina is the most developed part of Serbia along with Belgrade. True. But, what you can't understand is that Kosovo has something you will never understand - spirituality. A thousand years of our history, battles, epic poems, monasteries and churches. We can't give it up. Comparing Austria-Hungary to the present situation in Kosovo is stupid. First, Austro-Hungary was an empire that conquered lands that did not belong there (especially not the South Slav lands). The breakup of Austria Hungary came after WW 1. Kosovo is historically a Serbian land and comparing that to some imperial empire that collapsed like 90 years ago is totally ridiculous. If Kosovo is given independence, it will be a dangerous precedent for many countries in the Balkans and the world.

Guest		28-Feb-2006 12:58
The disappearance of Austria-Hungary is very interesting and explaining it only by the fact that it lost a (world) war is just too simplistic. In 1815 France was totally defeated but nobody wanted its disintegration despite the fact that it was not a clean and homogenous nation state. France, being the prototype not only of a nation, but also of nationalism wanted to solve the problem of ethnic diversity along one single dimension: establishing nation states. This effort also collided with the desire of most small nations who had at this point not really played a significant role. On top of that Austria-Hungary was far wealthier than Serbia or Romania therefore getting as much territory as possible was a very lucrative pray. This, coupled with the Hungarian stupidity to disband its armed forces resulted that a country of roughly 280.000 square kilometers (without Croatia) and of 20.000.000 inhabitants was eventually reduced to 93.000 square kilometers and some 9.000.000 people in 1920. As an example, Romania could occupied roughly 103.000 square kilometers, an area that is bigger than what was left to Hungary and never really belonged to Bucharest. The Serbs did not want to live under Hungarian rule and seceded. The same mechanism drives the Albanians in Kosovo in 2006. If the Serbs were given the right to get rid of Hungarian authority, why should the Albanians not given the same right? Alex, history is a real whore and should Kosovo secede you still have the Voivodina, which is significantly richer and offers much more potential than a valley somewhere in the deepest Balkans. By the way, after World War I Romania and Serbia did fight because they could not part the Banat area. Cheers Zoltan

Guest		28-Feb-2006 12:57
Hi Boys, To Vlad, I think you should really stop answering me because of utter and helpless stupidity. Instead I suggest you to read some pieces of Sabin Gherman. To Alex, In fact the ties between Austria and Hungary are still very strong. As an example the two countries held in December 2005 a joint governments meeting. Hungarians fought at least two major and bloody wars. The first lasted from 1703 to 1711 and ended with a Hungarian military defeat. However, at the negotiating table they could achieve nearly ever goal they had fight for save independence. The second war was the 1848/49 revolution and war of independence. This time we performed better and only the invading Russian troops could defeat Hungarians eventually. By the way this war was the longest “revolutionary” war of that time. Nationalism is from a Hungarian point of view an interesting phenomenon. Similar to nearly all European countries, thinking in terms of a nation as a unit of analysis does not make much sense for a great part of our history. Nationalism entered stage in Hungary only in the 19th century but before that the social establishment was based on orders. As an example the term “Natio Hungarica” was over a considerably long period of time an exclusive phenomenon. It did not even apply to Hungarians who were of non-noble descent. Vlad’s language is vulgaro-Latin so I assume that he must know that terms such as “gens” and “nation” do not mean the same. The best example is the Ruthens who fought for Rakoczi in 1703-1711 and were addressed as “gens fidelissima” and not as “nation fidelissima”. They were brave soldiers fighting for a say, Hungarian purpose without being Hungarians themselves. To be continued

Tirana		28-Feb-2006 11:55
Alex, Alex, Alex...you know what's your problem? You always try to defend yourself by telling what happened in the past. It's clear that history cannot be changed and that it's useful, but you shouldn't judge people only by that. Try to face the present, why don't you admit that Serbs were in the origin of cruel wars this last decade? Why don't you try to be less excessivly proud? I know that Serbs are intelligent and hard-working people, but com'on man don't say that you are the BIGGEST nation in Europe, even in the Balkans. In my opinion the hungarian guy has got some good arguments in his side...Who gives a shit where the money came from, who gives a shit where the lands came from, who gives a shit where the people came from? One thing that is clear is that nowadays they are doing better than our three countries and that is a fact! Face reality! Vlad, try to be more polite with him, because in my opinion too, today, Romania cannot compete with Hungary. Jeez man, do you know what would have been the economical consequences if hungarian tourists stopped going to Romania again? Ps: The Iron guard wasn't him a nazi?

Alex Belgrade		27-Feb-2006 19:32
Vlad, Remember in the beginning there was some problem between us, but I am glad that we are friends. As I said before, it is good that Romania and Serbia never had a war. My passion is Serbian history and I can tell you - Princess Marie of Romania, later known as Queen Marie of Yugoslavia, was very much loved and respected by the Serbian people. She was a very pretty woman, and also a woman with a big heart, and she gave a lot of charity and help to children, the wounded, the sick and the elderly. Before WW 2 there was a "Rumunska Ulica" or "Romanian Street" dedicated to the country of Marie's origin. After WW 2, the communists had changed the street to Uzicka (that's where Tito and Milosevic used to live). All the best to you. Alex

Vlad		27-Feb-2006 19:03
ALEX, REALLY I ASK ME WHICH VALOUR CAN HAS A GUY WHO DON'T SAY HIS NAME. IN EVERYCASE I THANK YOU FOR THE BEAUTIFUL WORDS THAT YOU SAID. WE ALSO HAVE GOOD RELATIONS HERE IN BANAT WITH SERBS, IF YOU WANT TO COME HERE IN THIS SUMMER I WILL GLAD TO SHOW YOU SERBIAN CHRURCH. IN MY OPINIUON IS WITHOUT SENSE TO ANSWER TO A POOR BOZGOR.

Alex Belgrade		27-Feb-2006 18:00
Guest. Perhaps one day you will let us know your name. I like to know whom I am speaking to. It's honest to say your name. My real name is Alex and I am from Belgrade. Why should I hide? Janos Hunyadi, we call him Sibinjanin Janko, has a little stone monument at the Kalemegdan Fortress in Belgrade. The Serbian people were grateful to him for stopping the Turks (at least for a while) so he does have a monument and I think there is an epic poem with his name. Belgrade has been proclaimed the capital of Serbia for the first time in 1403, by Stefan Lazarevic, son of Prince Lazar (who died heroically in Kosovo in 1389). Of course I speak negatively of islam. Not islam as such, but extreme islam, which seems to be taking shape everywhere. If the mujahedins had beheaded your people, if they had burned down your churches, I am sure you would not have many nice things to say about them. What is today happening to Serbian Orthodox Kosovo, tomorrow will be happening to Roman Catholic, Protestant and Anglican Europe. I have no intention to attack the Western Christianity. But, the West has lost its faith. For them Christmas is just another industry, not to mention things like gay marriages, abortion, sucicde, crime rate, divorce... The West is going down, fast, and it's not even aware of it. Islam is slowly conquering the West, in many ways and forms. Those who do not see it, are blind. The Eastern Christianity of Serbia, Romania, Greece, Russia etc is the only form of Christianity still standing strong. Why do you think the Islamists are trying so hard to destroy Russia, Serbia... Because they know that here we still have faith in Christ. Laugh today. Ignore the suffering of Serbs in Kosovo. Tomorrow - one day - Islam will make the West burn. Don't say that we did not warn you. And by the way, Vlad is right. While Hungarians have been kissing Austria's ass for ever, the Balkan people had actually FOUGHT for their countries and their freedom. For centuries, Eastern Christianity has been the barrier between Christianity in general, and Islam. And for centuries we have suffered severe blows because we are stuck in the middle. Between the East and the West, Europe and Asia, Eastern and Western Europe, Eastern and Western Christianity, and Christianity in general and Islam. Don't forget World War One and World War Two. I am sure that, given the chance, Hungarians would be at our throats once again. Serbia always has to be careful from its Balkan neighbors. Croatia, Albania, Hungary, Bulgaria - they never mean any good to Serbia. We know that all too well from history. With Romania we have never had a war, so that is one of the reasons I like Romania. Of course, I love Greece. Greece is the only Balkan country I truly love, as well as Serbia, of course.

Vlad		27-Feb-2006 15:27
GUEST I MUSTN'T ANSWER ANY MORE YOU BECAUSE YOU AREN'T ARYAN, IF MARSHALL ANTONESCU SEE ME SPEAKING WITH AN HUNGARIAN MONKEY AS YOU HE CERTAINLY PUNISH ME. I ANSWER YOU ONLY FOR SHOWING ANOTHERS THAT I TRY TO NOT BE RACIST. 1-YOU CAN SPEAK ME ABOUT TOURISM BECAUSE IF YOU COME IN OUR MEDIEVAL TOWNS EVERY WEEK-END YOU CERTAINLY CAN SEE THOUSENDS OF HUNGARIANS MONKEYS AS YOU. NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THE SUMMER: IN VAMA VECHE, MAMAIA, CONSTANTA ETC...IS FULL OF THESE ASIATIC BOZGORI AS YOU. BY THE WAY:YOU HAVEN'T SEA, AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU ALSO THIS SUMMER. GO TO SWIM IN THAT DRAIN CALLED BALATON. 2-DON'T TREAT WITH ME HISTORIC OR CULTURAL ARGOUMENTS, BECAUSE WE ARE THE DESCENDENT OF THE GLORIOUS DACIANS WHO WAS THE FIRST NON-GREEK-ROMAN PEOPLE WHO HAS ITS CITIES AS "SARMIZEGETUZA REGIA", AND ALSO ROMANS RESPECT THE INDOMIT CHARACHTER OF DACIANS, IN FACT MANY ROMAN GENERALS GAVE THEIR SONS DACIAN NAMES. THEREFORE WITH THE TIME THESE TWO GLORIOUS PEOPLES BECOME UNITED, AND ALMOST ALL ROMANS PRESENT IN DACIA HAVE MARRIED WITH DACIANS AND BY THIS GREAT UNION WE HAD BORN. THEREFORE OUR LANGUAGE IS NEO-LATIN WHILE YOU HAVE AN IMPOSSIBLE ASIAN LANGUAGE. HERE IN ROMANIA WE HAVE MEDIEVAL TOWNS, MEDIEVAL MONASTERIES WHO ARE "UNESCO'S" PATRIMONY, ANCIENT GREEK ARCHEOLOGIC ZONES AS THE ANCIENT "ISTRIA", DACIANS ANCIENT CITIES AS SARMIZEGETUZA REGIA, ROMAN ANCIENT ARCHEOLOGICAL ZONES LIKE CASTRUL ROMAN ETC. WE HAVE ALSO THE CITY OF IASI KNOWN AS THE FLORENCE OF THE EAST FOR ITS ANCIENT AND BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECHTURE AND FOR ITS ILLUMINIST WRITER DIMITRIE CANTEMIR. IN WALLACHIA WE ARE THE ANCIENT COURT OF TARGOVISTE AND CURTEA DE ARGES. 3-WHO ARE HUNGARIANS IN THIS TIME? A PEOPLE OF INFERIOR MONKEYS WITH SMALL EYES AND AN ASIAN LANGUAGE IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND SIMILAR TO MONGOLS (THE OPPOSITE OF LATINS). A PEOPLES WHO HAVE IN ALL ITS LIFE KISS THE ASS OF AUSTRIA TO HAVE SOME CONSIDERATION WHILE EVERYBODY HERE IN BALKANS FIGHT FOR FREESOM AND INDEPENDENCE. WHEN WE FOUNDED OUR CITIES YOU LIVED IN THE HUTS AND KILLED YOURSELVES FOR LIVE. THESE ARE YOU. 4-WHO ARE YOU TO TEACH US THE CHRISTIAN VALOURS? WE FIGHT FOR CENTURIES FOR DEFEND OUR CHRISTIAN ORTHODOX RELIGION AGAINST TURKISH INVASION, WHILE YOU CRY TO ASK THE HELP OF AUSTRIA. 5-IF YOUR PURCHASING POWER IS SO HIGH WHY LAST YEAR CNN SHOWED THE HUNGARIANS CHILDS THROWED IN THE RIVERS BY THEIR MOTHERS? AND WHY WEST IS FULL OF YOUR PORNO-STARS AS ILONA STALLER AND EVA HENGER WHO ARE FAMOUS FOR BE FUCKED BY WESTERNS? NOW, YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ME THESE THINGS, THEREFORE I SAY YOU THAT YOU ARE RIDICULE. BY THE WAY, I'M SURE TO KNOW HOW YOU MUST BE: SHORT, DARK, WITH SMALL EYES, AND VERY VERY STUPID. A TIPICAL EXAPMLE OF AN HUNGARIAN MONKEY. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD

Guest		27-Feb-2006 14:37
Hi Alex, Belgrade reminds me of a Hungarian victory achieved over the invading Turks in 1453. You know the Hungarian forces lead by Janos Hunyadi, who was at that time governor of the Hungarian Kingdom could defeat a superior Turkish army besieging Nandorfehervar. He was so successful at beating the Turks that this victory stopped them for good 70 years. Unfortunately at that time Belgrade was no Serbian capital city but a Hungarian fortress for defensive purposes. To Vlad, Maybe you should not write to a descendant of Turkish/Mongol/Non-Aryan/Asiatic etc. nations because of your pure and sterile Latin forefathers. To be honest not only the working and financial conditions are in Hungary much better but also the living conditions. If there are many Hungarians quing up the the border in Nagylak, it just shows that we have purchasing power and you don't because I have not heard of many Romanians coming to Hungary and buying things en gross. However, in case they come and visit Hungary they rather go to so called Chinese markets, which are considered as cheapest and filthiest by Hungarians. Despite the worse and flat landscape there are many more tourists coming to Hungary than to Romania because we have good infratsructure in terms of street, hotels, running hot water, ordenary toilets and so on. In fact, many Hungarians visit Transylvania because it is integral part of our past. The Principality of Transylvania was a Hungarian political community that existed from the 1540s to the 1680s and meant a certain continuity of Hungary during the Turkish period. Again, for Hungarians Romania is a very cheap holiday resort and in those areas, which matter for us even Romanians speak Hungarian since they know where the money comes from. By the way, you both write in a very negative manner about the Islam. From a Western Christian point of view Serbia's extention to the North and Romania's to the West means nothing more that Eastern Christianity could unfortunately gain ground. You know Western Christianity stands for enlightenment, secularisation, state of law, industrial development and expanding scientific thought. For what stands Eastern Christianity with its Byzantine heritage? Despotism. Our first king who was crowned in 1000 opted for the West and we cannot be thankful enough for him. The Black Church in Brasso is the last bastion of a culture that is surpressed in Transylvania. Vlad, what was going on with the wlachs around 1000? Did you have something like a king or any any sort of madiaval monarchy? Just to refresh your knowledge: the Hungarian construction company Trigranit, which is one of the biggest in the region has built many shopping centres Romania-wide and is still planning to expand. Also the fact that both of your governments include Hungarian members is a sign that in order to develop and to get rid of African conditions you need Western know-how. Greetings to you all.

Alex Belgrade		26-Feb-2006 14:28
LATEST DESECRATION OF A SERBIAN CHURCH IN PRISTINA Pristina --- An unidentified Albanian or a group of Albanians have desecrated a Serbian church in Kosovo's capital Pristina, by writing a word in Albanian on the roof of the church. The Albanian word spray-painted on the church refers to the female reproductive organ. (see photo) Church of Christ The Savior in Pristina has been vandalized before, and it was even used as a public toilet. It's surrounding area is a favorite place of criminals, junkies and prostitutes to gather. The Diocese of Raska and Prizren of the Serbian Orthodox Church has asked KFOR and UNMIK - how is it possible that, inspite of a substantial international presence, someone can bring the ladder, climb it, write the obscene grafiti on the roof of the church, climb down and then disappear with the ladder, unseen. Local authorities in Pristina have attemted to turn the church into an art gallery or opera. However, many ordinary Albanians desecrate this church in ways that are impossible to imagine and describe.

Alex Belgrade		25-Feb-2006 13:57
Guest, At least you could have signed your name. In any case, if Austria-Hungary hadn't been fucking with Serbs, maybe today there still would be an Austria-Hungary empire. But, you guys lost. Face it. And learn the lesson - don't fuck with Serbs. You served Hitler very well. Hungarian Nazis had committed terrible crimes in Vojvodina and Macva. One example - when the Serbs were drowned ALIVE in the icy river in Novi Sad. The hangings and dismemberments of Serbian bodies in Macva etc. Under communism, Yugoslavia was AMERICA compared to Hungary, which was a poor, Stalinist place. Please don't think that you belong to a higher race. You don't. The Balkans may be economically poorer, the so-called Western world which bombs and punishes dissobedient countries, thinks we are not civilized, and they allegedly are (ha ha), but the Balkans - and especially Serbs, have the history of fighting for freedom, from invadive forces such as Hungarian. So, any moral lessons coming from you are totally NOT in place. Belgrade is a beautiful city. It would be more beautiful if Turks, Germans, Austrians and Hungarians had not attacked it so much. As for Vojvodina, it will never again be Hungarian. Goodbye.

Vlad		24-Feb-2006 19:01
DEAR GUEST, I MUSTN'T ANSWER TO A NON-ARYAN SKUM AS YOU, BUT YOUR CRAZY WORD SHOW YOUR STUPIDITY. YOUR COMPARATION IS SIMPLY IRRELEVANT: YOU SAID THAT YOUR SHIT HUNGARIAN RACE IS THE SAME OF FINNISH. THAT'S TRUE. BUT YOU FORGOT THAT YOU'RE THE SAME RACE OF ALSO TURKISH, BECAUSE THEY ALSO COME BY AN UNNO-TATARS FAMILY, THEY AREN'T ARABS BUT TATARS AS YOU. THAT'S SHOWING TURKISH LANGUAGE, SIMILARA THAN YOURS. ALSO IN FINLAND IS A TOWN WHO'S NAME "TURKU". YOU SAID THAT MANY ROMANIANS EMIGRE IN WEST FOR A BETTER LIFE. THAT'S TRUE. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM COME BACK IN ROMANIA AFTER THEY HAVE A SUFFICIENT SAVING OF THEIR WORK IN WEST, AND YOU CAN SEE IN OUR TOWNS THAT WE HAVE NEW ZONES WITH NEW AND BEAUTIFL HOUSES, BECAUSE WITH THE SAVING OF THE WORK IN WEST OUR BROTHERS HERE IN ROMANIA WHERE THE PRICES OF CONSTRUCTIONS ARE LOW, CAN MAKING GOOD HOUSES OR SHOPS: SEE FOR EXAMPLE "BUCURESTIUL NOU", "BANEASA", "CORNU"(A COMPLETE NEW TOWNS FOUNDED FEW YEARS AGO BY OUR BROTHERS WHO WORKED MANY YEARS BEFORE IN ITALY OR SPAIN). THE DEMONSTRATION THAT WHAT I SAY IS TRUE IS THE GREAT CAPITAL OF MONEY THAT THEY SEND IN ROMANIA: 1,5MILLIARDS OF EURO. IN HUNGARY THE WORK AND MONEY CONDITIONS ARE BETTER, BUT IT BEGIN TO FINISH, BECAUSE BY THREE YEARS YOUR POWER OF BUY IS PRECIPITATED. YOUR PRICES ARE GROW IMPRESSIONANT AND YOU MUST TO COME HERE IN ROMANIA TO BUY. IF YOU READ THE ANSA (ITALIAN AGENCY OF NEWS) YOU CAN SEE AN ARTICLE OF LAST YEAR WHO SAIS THAT IN THE NADLAC BORDER, KILOMETERS OF HUNGARIANS WAIT EVERY DAYS TO COME IN ROMANIA FOR BUY, BECAUSE IN HUNGARY THE PRICES ARE IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM. THEREFORE OUR COMMERCIAL CENTERS, IN TIMISOARA, ARAD AND ORADEA ARE FULL OF HUNGARIAN SHITS AS YOU. IF ROMANIA IS UGLY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN ME WHY EVERY WEEK END AND EVERY SUMMER OUR TOURISTICS POINTS LIKE PREDEAL, RANCA, SINAIA ETC...ARE FULL OF HUNGARIAN "BOZGOR" SHITS? I REMEMBER YOU THAT OUR GLORIOUS MARSHALL ANTONESCU TAKE YOUR COUNTRY OF SHIT IN FEW TIME AND YOU CAN'T FORGET HOW WE FUCKED YOUR WOMEN. DON'T SPEAK ABOUT GYPSY. YOU ALSO HAVE MANY OF THEM, AND MANY OF HUNGARIAN GYPSY ARE HERE, WE CALL THEM "GABORI" AND THEY ARE KNOWN FOR THEIR LONG MOUSTACHES AND FOR THEIR UGLY LIFE. YOU MUST KNOW THAT HUNGARIAN GYPSY ARE KNOWN IN EVERY COUNTRY FOR THEIR MUSIC. THEREFORE YOU CAN SPEAK. I SUGGEST YOU TO THANK ME FOR MY CONSIDERATION FOR YOU, BECAUSE FEW ROMANIANS ANSWER TO NON-ARYAN AND INFERIOR RACES AS YOU. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD

Guest		24-Feb-2006 08:04
Guys, C'mone I think it is just great to read your comments. To be honest, what is occupied and reunited is always subjective and nationalisms are ecclectic anyway. More interestingly you can loose wars but win peaces afterwards. The Balkan pennisula is Europe's least developed and most shameful area, something like a dirty back-yard nobody really wants. This background makes Belgrade even more beautiful. Like it or not, dear Serbian patriots from a Hungarian point of view Vojvodina clearly resembles similarities with Serbia and its relation to Kosovo. regarding Vlad I just can say that we came to Europe on horseback as warriors of the steppe. There is nothing shameful in this regard. Most European nations migrated to the place where they live now as did the wlachs throughout centuries in Transilvania. From a Hungarian point of view they were a cheap workforce, a sort of early Gastarbeiter who worked for the Hungarian noblity on the fields as peasants. Sometimes they were even encouraged and sistematically settled down as it was the case with the 10.000 wlach families that migrated to the Banat in the 18th century, encouraged by our Habsurg king. Yes, our language is non-European but what's then? The Finnish and Ests speak a similar language and as it is the case with Hungary both are also way ahead in terms of civilisation, education and culture than your filthy and corrupt country. Millions of Romanians try to make their living outside your paradise because Romania simply sucks. I have been visiting Transylvania for nearly a decade and it is just painful to see our once beautiful cities such as Kolozsvar, Brasso, Marosvasarhely being blown up in size just to change the original ethnic composition to a Romanian advantage. Transylvanian cities and towns once with Hungarian and Saxon majority are now littered with Roumanian skum in terms of people and buildings that not even resemble European standards. Your roads are in a desperate condition and stuffed with carriages pulled by horses. I think that even those Romanians who originally favoured Bucharest and voted against Hungarian rule in Gyulafehervar are now spinning in their grave. You sold the Saxons to Germany who enjoyed Hungarian rule for over 800 years and filled their beautful towns and villages with gipsies from Romania proper. Anyway, you should be proud of your country because the rest of Europe is not. But back to the original issue the pictures are really nice and the photographer did an excellent job. Belgrade is a beautiful city that resembles similarities with Budapest, Vienna and to some extent Prague.

Alex Belgrade		23-Feb-2006 20:00
For anyone who wants a better insight into Kosovo, please read this article (click on link or copy into your browser window): http://www.citizensoldier.org/rugova.html Wonderful article by a Greek-American lady Stella Jatras, known as Sparta. Once again, thanks to the wonderful Greek people who tell the truth to the world about Serbia!

Vlad		23-Feb-2006 19:55
LISTEM TO ME BOZGOR: WHAT'S HUNGARY? I SAY YOU WHAT'S THAT SHIT COUNTRY: IS A SMALL COUNTRY WITHOUT MOUNTAINS. IN HUNGARY THE LANDSCAPE IS EVER THE SAME SHIT AND IS VERY BORING. IN HUNGARY AT 18 O'CLOCK AREN'T PEOPLES IN ROADS, AND YOU HAVE AN ASIAN LANGUAGE. IN FACT YOU AREN'T AN ARYAN RACE, BECAUSE YOU AREN'T INDO-EUROPEAN. YOU'RE ONLY THE DESCENDENT OF FEW BASTARDS MONGOLS, HOW IT SHOW YOUR SMALL EYES. WE ROMANIANS CAME IN YOUR BUDAPEST FOR TWO TIMES: IN THE FIRST, MARSHALL ANTONESCU OCCUPED HUNGARY FOR DEFEAT BELA KUN, AND IN THE WW2 WE CAME IN THE EAST PART OF BUDAPEST. SO, RESPECT US, BECAUSE YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ME THAT YOU ARE INFERIOR.

Guest		23-Feb-2006 17:40
Zotya, Fuck you Hungarian shit head. You are calling us the most war-torn? Shut up you pussies go and suck Stalin's dick you cowards. You lost both World Wars and all people I know who have been to Budapest said it is full of tramps and beggars, that your transport system is cramped and works on a shit system and that there are open dumpsters and graffiti on any buildings (even those of significance). Your parliament has never been without at least 10 tons of scaffolding and your national pride non-existant. You have been on the losing side of both World Wars and you are a loser nation in general, remember that Serbia (when in Yugoslavia) was the only country in the East not in the Soviet Union under the Warsaw Pact, we liberated ourselves, you pussies cannot do anything for yourselves. Go and beg for money from the EU. Serbia should never surrender national heroes Mladic and Karadzic. Fuck the EU if it means surrendering our national pride!! SRBIJA I ELLAS ZA UVEK!!

Alex Belgrade		23-Feb-2006 17:20
Zotya, Clearly you see the wrong image of Serbia. You would be surprised to see how much normalcy there is in Serbia, inspite of everything it has been through. Serbia is not the most war-torn country of Europe, please stop trusting CNN. Serbia was only affected by the Nato bombings and sanctions and not by wars in the former Yugoslavia (at least not directly, except in Kosovo). As for Vojvodina, it was not occuppied, it was UNITED with Serbia after WW 1. By your name, it looks like you are Hungarian? If you are, then you must know that during both World Wars Hungary always fought on the wrong side, the side that lost. There you go. Having moral talk from a Hungarian would be an insult to Serbs, the same Serbs Hungary executed during WW 1 and WW 2.

Zotya		23-Feb-2006 15:12
The pictures of Belgrade are really nice. It must be a very beautiful city full with nice buildings and woth to visit. On the other hand it was equally interesting to skim the content of the comments, which have nearly nothing to do with the skills of the photographer and the pictures themselves. It was also very interesting to see some representants of Europe's most impverished nation (Romania) posting comments on the capital city of Europe's most warn-torn nation (Serbia). In fact I am really surprised that two ragedy-ass, third-rate and pissant Balkan countries that could grow significantly in size and population after World War I, are after 70 years of occupation (Transilvania and Voivodina) still not an inch better off.

Vlad		22-Feb-2006 18:49
I UNDERSTAND NOW. SERBIAN LANGUAGE MUST BE VERY DIFFICOULT FOR ME, BECAUSE IS A SLAV LANGUAGE, I THINK THAT IT HAS MANY GRAMMATICAL CASES AS RUSSIAN. SOMETIMES I LISTEN HERE IN TIMISOARA, SERBS SPEAKING THEIR LANGUAGE AND I FIND IT DIFFICOULTS BUT MORE "MUSICAL" THAN RUSSIAN. IN THE COMMERCIAL CENTER IULIUS MALL HERE IN TIMISOARA, I SAW OFTEN SERBS AND HUNGARIANS, AND IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO SEE PEOPKLES FROM THE COUNTRIES NEAR US, BECAUSE THIS SHOW THAT EUROPE IS MORE UNITED THAN THE PAST, AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE POSSIBILITIES TO KNOW THEMSELVES. LAST WEEK HERE ARE A SERBIAN FAMILY IN THE MULTIPLEX CINEMA SALA WHO SPEAK NEAR ME AND IN FRONT OF ME TWO HUNGARIANS SPOKE IN THEIR LANGUAGE, YOU CAN IMMAGINE THE COMIC AND THE INTERESTING SITUATION. PROBABILY BANAT WILL BE IN THE NEXT EU'S FUTUR A NEW IMPORTANT EURO-REGION LIKE ALSATIA, FRIULI-ISTRIA-DALMATIA AND SLESIA. SEE YOU AS SOON.

Alex Belgrade		22-Feb-2006 17:04
Vlad, Goran asked what the hell are we writing about and why we are writing it in English. Since he asked in Serbian, I replied in Serbian. I said: BEGIN QUOTE: Goran, we write about many things and about different subjects. We write in English because there are Greeks, Romanians and Albanians here, with whom we have started discussion (Stefan Serb and I are battling the Albanians). We have made peace with Bulgarians and Romanians, but with Albanians it doesn't seem possible :) END QUOTE

Vlad		21-Feb-2006 20:07
ALEX, CAN YOU TRANSLATE ME WHAT YOU HAVE SAID IN ENGLISH? I DON'T KNOW SERBIAN LANGUAGE.

Alex Belgrade		21-Feb-2006 16:46
Gorane, Pisemo o svemu i svacemu, a na engleskom zato sto ima ovde Grka, Rumuna pa i Albanaca sa kojima smo zapoceli diskusiju (citaj: sa kojima se kidamo Stefan Serb i ja). Sa Bugarima i Rumunima smo sklopili mir, sa Albancima je nemoguce :)

GORAN		21-Feb-2006 13:49
LJUDI, O CEMU VI OVDE PISETE I ZASTO NA ENGLESKOM JEZIKU!?

Alex Belgrade		19-Feb-2006 07:36
An American Hero of Serbian Origin Dubravka Savic February 18, 2006 VECERNJE NOVOSTI daily by Alex All Americans have heard of the GI Joe figure, a favorite toy of most American boys. Yet, only a few Americans actually know that the origin of GI Joe was Serbian. GI Joe was launched by Hasbro and was inspired by a real American WW 2 hero of Serbian origin - Mitchel Page. Page's bravery on October 26, 1942 when he fought the Japanese and held out until backup arrived, got him the Medal of Honor. And that was not the only medal he had received in his lifetime. Page was born in 1918 in Pensylvania, USA. His parents were Serbian immigrants who arrived to the US at the beginning of the 20th century, originally from Krajina, now in present day Croatia. His family name must have been Pejic (Peyich) but it must have sounded like Page to Americans, and so the last name Page remained. - My mother would never allow us to forget our Serbian origin. When my brother Pete would show a lack of interest in his Serbian roots, she would say: The blood of your ancestors was spilled in Kosovo Field in 1389, said Page once. Page mentioned that a painting depicting the Kosovo Battle was destroyed in a fire, along with other valuables of the family. "Inspite of the painting having been lost, the spirit of Kosovo continued to live in our hearts", said Page in an interview once. He said that his mother had taught her children to be both proud Americans and proud Serbs. Mitchel Page, an extraordinary Marine known as Mitch, an inspiration of American young generations, a proud American of Serbian origin, passed away on November 15, 2003, in California.

Alex Belgrade		18-Feb-2006 21:48
Hey Stefan Serb, No... I haven't heard anything about it since then.

Guest		17-Feb-2006 23:53
Hey Alex, I was just wandering about that waterpark you mentioned; any news of how thats getting along? Is it set to meet the deadline of this summer? Regards brother; Long Live Mother Srbija and Ellas!!

Alex Belgrade		16-Feb-2006 06:05
Jenz, You are absolutely welcome. Exit Fest gathers about 50,000 people from all over Europe. Please visit this site www.exitfest.org In the upper right-hand corner, choose English under the "Languages" section. You will also find an article from the Observer - here is what they wrote: Exit in Serbia Sarah Turner Sunday February 5, 2006 The Observer With Glastonbury off the map in 2006, Serbia's Exit Festival is set to fill the gap. Some of Exit's elements - face paint as formal wear, for instance - are in keeping with the grand tradition of music festivals, but Exit, founded in 2000 as a student protest against President Milosevic, has a stronger rationale than most when it comes to the partying-with-a-conscience element. Last year, when Fatboy Slim headlined, with back-up from the White Stripes and Carl Cox, 150,000 revellers took in everything from extreme sports to extremely avant garde cinema. Beer is cheap (as are tickets), the backdrop - the medieval fortress of Novi Sad - is unique and the climate cheerfully Mediterranean. As Annie Mac of Radio 1 put it: 'The setting is spectacular, the line-up massive and the people completely inspiring. It's a truly special festival.'

Jenz		15-Feb-2006 19:58
Thanks, Stefan. I know it was a pretty naive question and I believe that Serbs are very nice, but I just wanted to double check. :) I do plan on staying in Belgrade for several days beforehand. In fact it's the people and general "vibe" of the place that I am most interested in. I think it's amazing how well your country has rebounded after the war. I don't think Americans would be so eager to help eachother out after such a thing. This is a great gallery by the way.

Guest		15-Feb-2006 10:52
No Jenz, You are very welcome to come and visit the Exit fest in Novi Sad, many many Westerners come and visit it every year, nobody really craes where you are from and anywhere in Serbia if someone says they are from Britain or America they are always greeted and made to feel right at home in the country they bombed and placed sanctions on for 10 years. I promice you there will not be any trouble as Serbs are actually very peaceful and welcoming people despite what CNN and ABC may tell you. I guarantee you would have a great time if you go and meet many new interesting people, it is a great party, I did attend 3 years ago. Also if you get the chance I recommend you get the bus down to Belgrade to see our wonderful capital for a couple of days or so. Just remember this as it will come in useful: Pivo (pronounced peevo) = Beer! Regards from London: Stefan SERB

Jenz		15-Feb-2006 09:28
I feel weird asking this in this person's photo gallery, but since it's become a discussion of Serbia, is anyone living there familiar with Exit Festival? I plan on attending that by myself this year as a 25 year old american male. Considering the resentment some have towards americans, do you think that would be more of an issue in a party/drunken atmosphere like exit fest?

Guest		13-Feb-2006 23:53
Tirana, Yes our mentality is not completely Western as Alex has mentioned we still have a strong sence of family and cultural traditions liv eon today in Serbia. Our mentality is not such as the Western mentality of everything revolving around money with no family orientation (brothers and sisters never talking to each other because of a small arguament). But of course as you have mentioned we are not even close to the Albanian mentality whcih still resorts to Honour Killings, terrorism and works on a basis of revenge instead of the Courts and Laws. We are not even close to you savage cowards, it is pointless for you even to mention that, you are on the same mentality as Afghanistan my friend. Death to all Shiptars, Long Live Rightceous Serbia and Greece!! Brothers to the end!

Alex Belgrade		13-Feb-2006 17:11
Tirana, It all depends where you live, in what region, also if you live in a city or a village, and how your parents had brought you up. In any case, what is a "modern Western mentality". If you are refering to total godlessness of the West, homosexual marriages, everything being commercialized, even Chriostmas, stuff like that, well, then thank God we are not as "modern" as the West. We are modern enough - I have all the things jmy Western counterparts have, but I am glad that we still have faith and we are aware of who we are and where we come from. Europe has totally lost its faith, its Christian origins. While Islam is keeping its tradition to a point that is extreme, Western Europe is losing its tradition to a point that is extreme. Serbs are still hanging in there. As for the labguages, Serbian language is very similar to Bulgarian, we can understand both the writing and the speaking. Macedonian (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) is even more closer to Bulgarian. Russian and Serbian are not similar. They write in Cyrrilic as do we, but except for some words, we can't really understand Russian. I speak Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Montenegrin, ha ha ha and I understand Macedonian and Bulgarian very well. Of course I speak good English and a beginning level of French. I adore French, Spanish and Italian languages. I wish I could know all 3 of them perfectly, but I don't have time for it.

Tirana		13-Feb-2006 12:33
Hello everybody, Alex thanx for your answer, you confirmed the opinion that i made about Serbs from Belgrade that i met in Budva. I had the impression that it was a more western mentality than ours, but still not so "modern" than Western countries. You said that if you talked serbian to a bulgarian he could understand you. Your languages are so similar? Is it the same thing with Russians? Instead i think you have good relations with France and Russia

Alex Belgrade		11-Feb-2006 00:01
true, Belgrade is a normal European city like any other. It has everything you would expect in any other city, but I think it has a specific atmosphere, soul and spirit. In terms of development, Novi Sad is a small city compared to Belgrade. While there is a strong support for the country to enter the EU, there is also a strong resentment towards the West, because of everything the West had done, and is still doing, to Serbia. Tourists and businessmen are welcome here. Ordinary Serbs have resentments towards Western governments, not people. By governments, I primarily mean the US, England and Germany.

Guest		10-Feb-2006 17:22
I mean in levels of development, not in mentality, many Serbs resent the West for constant attacks on us in their persistant task to destroy us in every way.

Guest		10-Feb-2006 17:21
I would say Belgrade is much more 'Western' and developed than anywhere else in Serbia (including Vojvodina) and propably all of the Balkans excluding Greece and Slovenia.

Alex Belgrade		08-Feb-2006 16:51
Tirana, It's different to answer questions about mentality, because Serbia has many different regions, and all have a different mentality, culture etc. Vojvodina to the norh is a land of plains and grain fields. People there are tranquille, and many minorities contribute that special blend of cultures. It is the most "Western" part of Serbia, as it had long been under Austria-Hungary's Empire. Thus it looks most "European". Belgrade by itself is an urban jungle, a big city like every other big city, but with a special blend of Ancient Times, Austrian, Turkish, Communist and Modern architecture. It is a city very much alive, with many events throughout the year, and the streets are often buzzying with people. To the west you will get closer to Bosnia and to the Serb Republic and so the mentality will change. People here are tough, but hard working. To the southwest you will enter Sandzak, an area where Muslims make a considerable number in population. The Serbian and Muslim communities live in relative harmony. Members of both main Muslim parties are in some way or another included in the Serbian Government, so, apart from occassional grafitti or football fan riots, we can say that the relations there are good. (Considering what happened in neighboring Bosnia, the situation in Sandzak is excellent). Apart from many mosques, you will find that the life there is more or less conditioned to Islam. If Serbia and Montenegro split up, Sandzak will be divided - about half in Serbia and half in Montenegro. That's why, for the Muslim community, it would be in its interests for Serbia and Montenegro to stay together. Serbian name for Sandzak is Raska, it is an ancient Serbian land but the name Sandzak comes from the Turkish times. To the south you will see the Oriental influence. The closer you get to Kosovo or FYR Macedonia, the stronger the Oriental influence. The Serbian south is home to the Gypsy brass bands - they have a competition each year in Gucha and it's really wild and great. Also, grill from Leskovac is known not just here, but throughout Serbia. People here are really passionate. They love music. But, they are poor. The more south you go, like in every country, the people get poorer. The central part of Serbia, some say the heart of it, is Shumadia. This area is mountaneous and hilly, with a lot of greenery. This is a historic part of Serbia where Karadjordje began an uprising in 1804, which marked the beginning of the creation of modern Serbian state, after several centuries under Turkish occupation. If you are in Belgrade, yes, young men show off their girlfriends to their parents. If you are in a village, probably rules are not so liberal. In villages is still a patriarchal society, but in cities like Belgrade and Novi Sad is an urban atmosphere. In each of those regions you will find a difference in culture. Serbs love to eat and drink. But, the culture differs. To the north, in Vojvodina, people play the tamburitza, a little instrument with strings. In Shumadia, people like the brass bands as well as in the South. In the south, there is still that Turkish-styled dancing made into a Serbian variety. Serbia is uniquely a country filled with religious, cultural and historic diversities, a country where civilizations fall apart and drift together again, a country where the East meets the West, where religions clash and cooperate, where there is so much blend of cultures, traditions, peoples, customs, and that's what makes it so unique and colorful.

Vlad		08-Feb-2006 13:17
ALE, WASN'T MY INTENTION TO OFFEND BULGARIAN COAST. I KNOW THAT ALSO THERE WAS IN THE LAST 10 YEARS FOREIGN INVESTIMENT. BUT IF YOU VISITED IN GOOGLE (THEN IF YOU WANT I CAN TO GIVE YOU SOME WEB SITES) THE PICTURES OF MAMAIA AND COSTANZA, YOU CAN SEE THAT ALSO WE HAVE A GREAT AND FUNCTIONAL SEA COAST. BUT THE MOST, THE PRINCIPAL ATTRACION OF MY BEAUTISUL COUNTRY, IS TRANSILVANYA. SEE THESE WEB SITES: WWW.SIBIU.RO(FOTO ALBUM), WWW.SIGHISOARA.COM(GALERIE FOTO), AND WWW.PRIMARIAMEDIAS.RO(FOTO ALBUM OR GALERIE), I SUGGEST YOU TO SEE ALSO IN GOOGLE THE PICTURES OF BRASOV. ANTOTHER GOOD WEB SITE IS: WWW.ORADEA.RO, AND FINNALLY THE BEST SITES WHERE ARE PICTURES OF ALL ROMANIA IS WWW.ABOUTROMANIA.COM (CARDS). I'M SURE THAT YOU'LL LIKE IT, WE HAVE HERE SPLENID MEDIEAL TOWNS, CASTLES AND GOTHIC CHRUCHES. ANOTHER SPLENDID ZONE IS BUCOVINA WHERE ARE MEDIEVAL ORTHODOX MONASTERIES WHO ARE PROTECTED BY UNESCO. YOU SAID THAT BULGARIA IS STILL POOR? I CAN SAY YOU THAT I WAS ONLY IN RUSE TWO YEARS AGO, AND IN THE NEAR ZONE OF IT. I CAN TO SAY THAT THAT ZONE WAS GOOD, BUT (WITHOUT OFFENCE TO BULGARIA) BULGARIA IS POORLY THAT ROMANIA. NOT VERY MUCH, IS A SMALL DIFFERENCE IN OUR RESPECTIVE ECONOMICAL CONDITION, BUT IN WHAT CONCERNED ECONOMIC GREW AND THE SECTOR OF CONSTRUCTION ROMANIA IS BETTER. ALSO BECAUSE WE HAVE A MITTLEEUROPEAN REGION LIKE TRANSILVANYA AND BANAT WHERE ARE A BETTER SITUATION ALSO IN THE HISTRORIC ADMINISTRATIVE PLAIN. SO ALEX, WHEN YOU THIS SUMMER WANT TO COME HERE, YOU HAVE MANY BEAUTIFUL THINGS TO SEE AND I'LL GLAD TO SHOW THEM, AS YOU (VERY GENTILY) SHOW ME THE GOOD THINGS OF SERBIA. TIRANA, ALSO YOU ARE WELCOME. AND CERTAINLY ALSO YOU CAN TO SEE OUR BEAUTIFUL THINGS IN THAT WEB SITES. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU AND ALEX ARE FRIENDS NOW. SEE YOU AS SOON

Tirana		08-Feb-2006 10:28
Hello everybody, Alex thanx for your messages and i'm really delighted that finally the discussion may take another direction, i mean with no insults, or fewer (hi Stefan :) ). Thanx also for the invitation, but to tell you the truth it's very difficult for the moment because i have only some months to stay in my country and there are many people there that i haven't seen for quite a long time. But that doesn't mean that i'll never visit Belgade and one of the reasons why i came in this forum was exactly to learn more about Belgade and Serbia (in order not to seem like an idiot when i come there :) ). Well i can say that i had the two views, the extremist (Stefan) and moderate (you) of the Serbian people about us, i viewed some of the Belgrade photos, and i printed the list of the best clubs in Belgrade :), who knows..?! But Belgrade is a little bit far to go by car (mostly because of the infrastucture in Albania and Kosovo) and passing through Montenegro will double the distance. But maybe we may meet in Budva or Bulgaria (Varna) cause i'm planning to go there. Anyways it's still too early for that. There are still some questions i would like to know about Serbia. How's the mentality there? I mean do girls tell parents about their boyfriends? Can guys go to their girfriend's home? Is it a liberal society or like the albanian one where people can often do what they want? I think it's in questions like that that we can learn more about countries. And Vlad how's it like in Romania? Hey tirana living in Tirana :), proove me that you are albanian, tell me some words in albanian and where you live exactly!

Alex Belgrade		08-Feb-2006 06:50
Vlad, I have been to the Bulgarian Coast several times, mostly because it's very cheap. I didn't like the Black Sea because of so much wind and waves, but I can tell you that in a place called Sunny Beach there is very good infrastructure, including many 4 and 5 star Western - type hotels, nightclubs, bars, coctail bars, built by foreign capital. Many Brits, Germans, Swedes, and Serbs. Because Bulgaria is still very cheap, I was very surprised. I could eat in restaurants 2 meals a day - lunch and dinner. In Serbia I can't afford to eat at restaurants, and I mean real restaurants, not fast food. For example a large pizza in a Bulgarian seaside restaurant is 3.5 levs, which is 3.5 Deutsch Marks (not Euros). A beer is 0.80 levs, and at a cafe on the beach it's 2 levs, or 1 euro. In the pastry shop, a huge piece of cake is 0,40 or 0,80 levs, but that is cheap because the portions are big. Huge meat skewers, lined up on a sword are only 7 levs or 3.5 euros. Entire grilled chicken at a restaurant is only 6 levs or 3 euros. Apart from Slanchev Briag (Sunny Beach as it is known in English), another beautiful place is Zlatni Pjasci (Golden Sands) but it's more expensive. Also St. Constantin and Helen etc. Bulgaria is still doing poorly. Except the capital, Sofia and the Seaside, everything else still looks very poor. You can just see the remains of Communism everywhere. Old, grey apartment buildings, phasades with no details, villagers plowing fields with donkeys and horses, cornfields fried by the Sun... our cornfields and grain fields look much nicer... etc. But, the Bulgarian Seacoast has made huge progress. 15 years ago there was nothing there except some Communist hotels. There was a lot of army because Communist officials would spend their summers there. After the fall of Communism this place prospered thanks largely to fireign investments. Some of those 5 star hotels are really breathtaking. I found the Ioninan Sea in Greece to be much warmer and much calmer than the Black Sea. In Bulgaria I could speak Serbian and they spoke Bulgarian, and we understood each other. In Greece I spoke English and they spoke English, but I quickly learned to read the road signs in Greek, even some basic Greek words and phrases. Bulgraia was nice, Greece was excellent!

Alex Belgrade		08-Feb-2006 06:34
Regarding the last post of tirana on February 7 on 22:49, judging by the language used, I do not think it is the Tirana boy that has been present on this forum. This is someone else. I say to this impostor: you asshole, why are you using someone else's name? There was a Tirana present here way before you and now you sign his name. You fucking pussy and coward. Couldn't you at least invent a different name. You have nothing good to say. So shut up you moron.

tirana		07-Feb-2006 22:49
u mother fuckers first eat my shit and then visit your stupid countries.albania rules.Real tirana i live in tirana so i shall use this name u betrayor

Vlad		07-Feb-2006 21:25
IN WHAT CONCERN TRANSYLVANIA, THERE ARE MANY MEDIEVAL SAXON TOWNS, THE BETTER IN MY OPINION IS BRASOV (THE SALISBOURGH OF THE EAST), BUT ALSO SIBIU WHO WILL BECOME IN 2007 EUROPEAN CULTURAL CAPITAL. THAT ZONE IS THE MOST DEVELOPED WITH BANAT, BECAUSE I MUST AMMITTED THAT AUSTRO-HUNGARIC DOMINATION INFLUENCED IN BETTER THE ADMINISTRATIVE MENTALITY OF ROMANIANS OF TRANSYLVANIA. MY SERBIAN FRIENDS (THEY FROM NEGOTIN) SAYS THAT THE SAME SITUATION IS IN VOJVODINA WHERE ALSO SERBS OF THAT ZONE TOOK THE GOOD ASPECTS OF THE GOOD QUALITY OF ADMINISTRATIVE AUSTRO-HUNGARIC SYSTEM. WHEN YOU HAVE A PLAN, NEAR THE SUMMER, WE CAN TO CHANGE OR VISIT IN OUR RESPECTIVES MOTHERLANDS. DOBRO VECE.

Vlad		07-Feb-2006 21:17
ALEX, ROMANIAN COAST IS VERY BEAUTIFUL IN MAMAIA, IF YOU SEE THE PICTURES OF THIS TOWN IN GOOGLE YOU CERTAINLY CAN TO SEE AN OCCIDENTAL MODERN TOURIST TOWN. THERE WAS TWO YEARS AGO THE CONGRESS OF THE HEADS OF STATE OF CENTER EUROPE (ALSO SERBIA-MONTENEGRO), AND ALL REMAIN VERY IMPRESSED. THERE ARE A MODERN INFRASTRUCTURE. LAST YEAR WAS CREATED THE AERIAL CABLE WAY. LAST YEAR THERE WERE 8000 ITALIAN TOURISTS, NOT TO SPEAK ABOUT GERMANS OR BRITISH. MAMAIA HAS MANY NEW HOTEL OF 5 STARS AND AN INFINITE NUMBER OF DISCO AND ANOTHER DISTRACTIONS. COSTANZA IS AN ANCIENT CITY FOUNDED BY ANCIENT GREEKS, THERE ARE ARCHEOLOGICAL GREEK PLACE. THERE IS ONE OF THE OLDEST CASINO. COSTINESTI IS THE TOURIST PLACE OF WE STUDENTS. IS A GOOD ZONE BUT HASN'T THE LUX OF MAMAIA. THE SEA IS GOOD AND WARM IN ANY ZONES AND LESS GOOG IN ANOTHER PLACES (NEAR BULGARIAN BORDER). THE TOURISTIC INFRASTRUCTURE THE FIRST TIME, IN THE BLACK SEA COAST WAS CREATED BY CEAUSESCU'S REGIME FOR RECEIVE FOREIGN TOURISTS. THERE WAS REALIZATED GREAT HOTELS. INFRASTRUCTURE WHO WAS RENOVATED BY THE 1995 BY MASSIVE FOREIGN INVESTIMENT. NOW IF YOU WOUL TO SEE IN GOOGLE THE PICTURES OF MAMAIA FOR EXAMPLE YOU CAN TO SEE A TRASFORMATION ABOUT 100% OF A TOWN WHO BECOME VERY QUICKLY FROM AN OLD COMMUNIST STRUCTURE A LUXUOS WESTERN TOURIST TOWN. BULGARIAN COAST? I SINCERELLY DON'T KNOW, BUT I KNOW THAT IN WHAT CONCERNED INFRASTRUCTURE WE ARE VERY BETTER THAN THEM. BY BUCHAREST TO COSTANZA IS A MODERN MOTORROAD THAT PERMIT A BETTER CIRCULATION IN THE SUMMER.

Alex Belgrade		07-Feb-2006 20:49
Vlad, I would be delighted to visit Romania, Transilvania and the coastline. Constanza sound great. How is the sea in Romania? Here Bulgaria's Black Sea Coast is much more advertised than Romanian. I don't know about my plans, last year me and some friends went to Corfu, Greece. It's still to early to say what my plans will be for the summer. But, thanks for the invitation. I'll take you up on that some day, I hope. Cheers.

Vlad		07-Feb-2006 18:56
THANKS ALEX, I ALSO BE GLAD TO SHOW YOU THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS OF ROMANIA THIS SUMMER. IF YOU WANT TO SEE EXPECIALLY THE ANCIENT TOWNS OF TRANSYLVANIA I'M GLAD TO CHANGE YOUR GENTILY AND PLEASURE FAVOUR, AFTER THAT I'LL BE IN BELGRADE. THE WHITE CITY, THIS IS THE MEANING OF BELGRADE, THREE MINE SERBIAN FRIENDS TALK ME ABOUT ITS HISTORIC CENTER. YOU ASK YOU AN OLD MAN AT 31? SHUT UP! HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT AT 31 YEARS OLD A MAN IS OLD? TODAY A MAN OF 31 IS YET A BOY, SEE THE ANOTHER 30NS FOR EXAMPLE. MANY OF THEM LOOK REALLY AT 20NS. EXPECIALLY HERE IN EAST, WHERE WE HAVE YET THE GOOD THING TO LIVE A SALUBRE LIFE.

Alex Belgrade		07-Feb-2006 18:32
Vlad, Thank you for your very nice comments. No I am not 22... I am 31. Old man :) Vojvodina has 26 ethnic groups - Hungarians, Slovaks, Romanians, Croats, Ukrainians, etc. And they all live happily. Sometimes there are some provocations like grafitti but it's all bullshit. Compared to the rest of the former Yugoslavia - Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, FYR Macedonia, the situation in Vojvodina is really tranquille. And you are right, it is the region of Serbia which is "most Western" and yet so specific. I am looking forward to seeing you in Belgrade. I would like to meet you and show you around. You seem to know quite a lot about us. All the best, Alex

Alex Belgrade		07-Feb-2006 18:25
Stefan Serb Excuse me I made a typing mistake - the Serbian flag, of course, from top to bottom is red-blue-white. Sorry about that, I am just tired, I've been to work all day. How much of Serbian history do you know?? I am quite a fan of our history, I have about 100 books. Perhaps you can see them sometimes if you want. Wonderful stuff. It's like time travel. I love rediscovering our country, Serbia.

Alex Belgrade		07-Feb-2006 18:22
Stefan Serb, I accept your apology. End of story. Since you have been away for a while, let me tell you what's going on with the state symbols. The state symbols of the Union of Serbia and Montenegro have not been changed - because the 2 states could not reach an agreement. Therefore, on the international level, the anthem is still Hej Sloveni. In Serbia itself the state symbols have been adopted as a recommendation, not Law, by the Serbian Parliament on August 17, 2004. The national flag of Serbia is the historic tri-colored flag - red, white and blue (from top to bottom). The state flag has the Small Coat of Arms on it. The people flag is just the 3-colored flag. The Coat of Arms is the historic Coat of Arms from 1882 - the original Coat of Arms of the Kingdom of Serbia. Two-headed white eagle with 4 symbols of fire "C" turned back to back, with a Crown on top. That is the Small Coat of Arms. It is part of the Large Coat of Arms, and can still be used separately. The Large Coat of Arms has the Porfyra on it which is also topped by the Crown. The President of the Republic of Serbia has a Standart - identical to the Standart of Serbian Kings. The Chairman of the Parliament also has his own Standart. The national anthem of Serbia is BOZE PRAVDE. The original text was written in 1872 by Jovan Djordjevic. Music was composed by Davorin Jenko, a Slovene. The Coat of Arms is, historically, the most complete that we have had, since it has the elements of medieval coats of arms, the entire coat of arms of the Principality (Knezevina) Srbija, it was proclaimed and used in the Kingdom of Serbia, and in a slightly modified form, it was also used in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. The national anthem has suffered some changes - for example, instead of "God save the King" it's "God save the Serbian Lands". On August 17, 2004, when the Military Orchestra played Boze pravde in front of the Parliament officially for the first time, I cried. I was so proud! See, the difference between you and me is that you start thinking about the glory of Yugoslavia - Tito's Yugoslavia. I think of the SERBIAN EMPIRE, of Stefanm Nemanja, St. Sava, Tsar Dusan, Prince Lazar, I think of KINGDOM OF SERBIA proclaimed again after 5 centuries, I think of our sacrifice and victory in WW 1. I was standing proud and tall, my God, I thought I could fly, that's how powerful it felt. When they raised the new flag, with the Serbian eagle flying high, I thought I was gonna collapse. It was a truly special day of SERBIAN AWAKENING. Very special in my heart.

Vlad		07-Feb-2006 17:32
CERTAINLY ALEX YOU ARE A PEACIFIC BOY. I OBSERVED THIS AND THIS IS A GOOD THING. THEREFORE I SUGGEST YOU TO NOT ANSWER TO PROVOCATION. YOU MUST GO ON THESE ININFLUENT THINGS AS INSULTS OR PROVOCATIONS. REMEMBER OUR FIRST COMMENTS AREN'T PEACIFIC BUT AFTER WHEN TWO REASONABLE AND MATURE PERSONS SPEAKS, FINALLY THE PROVOCATIONS STOPPED. HOW YOU CAN SAW I'M ALSO A PEACIFIC BOY, ALSO IF I'M NATIONALIST AND I ISPIRED MY POLITICS A LIFE MODEL AT IRON GUARD. A REASONABLE AND AN INTELLIGENT PERSON IN MY OPINION, IS WHO FORGET PROVOCATIONS AND BEGIN TO CONSIDER SERIOUS AND INTELLIGENTS POINT LIKE WE DOING AT THE PRESENT. BECAUSE ALSO IF WE ARE YOUNG (I'M 22, PROBABILY YOU ARE THE SAME), THESE POINTS REGARD WE AND OUR RESPECTIVES MOTHERLANDS. YES, YOU'VE RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO VISIT BELGRADE THIS SUMMER (FOR NOW, UNFORTUNATELY I VISIT OJNLY MY EXAMS, I'M STUDYNG POILITIC SCIENCES IN CLUJ NAPOCA,A BEAUTIFUL CITY IN THE HEARTH OF TRANSYLVANIA). HERE IN TRANSILVANYA ARE VERY INTERESTING SITUATIONS, IN THE PLAIN POLITICS AND SOCIAL, BECAUSE AFTER WE ROMANIANS, HERE ARE ALSO HUNGARIANS AND GERMANS MINORITY AND IS BEAUTIFUL TO SEE THE LIFE TOGETHER THESE ANOTHER CULTURES, EXPECIALLY GERMANS WHO ARE VERY PICTORESQUE. I'M SURE THAT THE SAME BEAUTIFUL SITUATION IS IN VOJVODINA, WHERE SERBS, HUNGARIANS AND SLOVAKS LIVE TOGETHER PEACIFULLY, DIFFERENT THAN KOSOVO (OF COURSE IF THERE ARE UCK CRIMINALS). A SERBIAN TOWN WHO I'M CURIOUS TO VISIT IS NOVI SAD. SOME SERBIAN FRIENDS WHO STUDIED IN MY NATIVE TOWN TIMISOARA, SAYS ME THAT NOVI SAD IS A SMALL BELGRADE BUT WITH A BIGGEST MITTELEUROPEAN INFLUENCE. THEY SAYS ME THAT VOJVODINA HAS THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS OF TRANSYLVANIA: A BALKAN REGION WITH A GREAT MITTELEUROPEAN INFLUENCE. SEE YOU AS SOON.

Guest		07-Feb-2006 17:08
Alex Belgrade 05-Feb-2006 21:30 Stefan Serb, Hej Sloveni or Hey Slavs is the anthem of Communist Yugoslavia. That Yugoslavia is finished. Communism is finished, get that into your head. By the way it's a copy of the national anthem of Poland - the words are different but the tune is the same. It has been WORN OUT like a pair of old shoes. Alex, brother I have not meant to offend you in any way. I did not even know they were changing it back to Boze Pravde, I was under the impression that they were creating a new one. I am well aware that Hej Sloveni tune was from a Polish anthem and that words were first added to it by a Slovak. It is a true song of Slavic Nationalism, therefore it was best fitted for Yugoslavia to adopt that anthem as we were the land of Slavs. i don't care if it was communist or whatever it is MY Anthem and I will never stop singing it. Even when I am at work the tune always enters my head and I remember the great Old Yugoslavia that I grew up in. I sincerely appologise for the offence I have obviously caused you. But replying like that was out of place in my opinion. "You have no right to call yourself a Serbian nationalist and patriot." What the fuck? Why? Because I love the old anthem? Whatever you say. Fuck Tirana he is an Albanian scum and I will never trust a Shiptar again because of what they have done to us Serbs and what they have taken from us. Our most precious land our holy land where our state was founded. They are slimy bastards as well, we took them in through our borders to escape their Stalinist dictator Hoxha and gave them a better way of life in OUR country. Such generosity toward a whole nationality and they spit in our faces and behead us? We gave up our first state and for what? For Shiptar scum which we could have easily shot on the spot when they reach our border on donkeyback. That is bullshit, Shiptars are not loyal or honest and they all turned against Serbs to expand their miserable nation. Fuck Albanians, Our Grandchildren's children will know about what they have done to us and we will hate each other forever. That is the end of the story. Love doesn't exist between nations anymore. Only Serbs and Greeks are true brothers.

Guest		07-Feb-2006 17:04
Alex Belgrade 05-Feb-2006 21:30 Stefan Serb, Hej Sloveni or Hey Slavs is the anthem of Communist Yugoslavia. That Yugoslavia is finished. Communism is finished, get that into your head. By the way it's a copy of the national anthem of Poland - the words are different but the tune is the same. It has been WORN OUT like a pair of old shoes. Alex, brother I have not meant to offend you in any way. I did not even know they were changing it back to Boze Pravda, I was under the impression that they were creating a new one. I am well aware that Hej Sloveni tune was from a Polish anthem and that words were first added to it by a Slovak. It is a true song of Slavic Nationalism, therefore it was best fitted for Yugoslavia to adopt that anthem as we were the land of Slavs. i don't care if it was communist or whatever it is MY Anthem and I will never stop singing it. Even when I am at work the tune always enters my head and I remember the great Old Yugoslavia that I grew up in. I sincerely appologise for the offence I have obviously caused you. But replying like that was out of place in my opinion. "You have no right to call yourself a Serbian nationalist and patriot." What the fuck? Why? Because I love the old anthem? Whatever you say. Fuck Tirana he is an Albanian scum and I will never trust a Shiptar again because of what they have done to us Serbs and what they have taken from us. Our most precious land our holy land where our state was founded. They are slimy bastards as well, we took them in through our borders to escape their Stalinist dictator Hoxha and gave them a better way of life in OUR country. Such generosity toward a whole nationality and they spit in our faces and behead us? We gave up our first state and for what? For Shiptar scum which we could have easily shot on the spot when they reach our border on donkeyback. That is bullshit, Shiptars are not loyal or honest and they all turned against Serbs to expand their miserable nation. Fuck Albanians, Our Grandchildren's children will know about what they have done to us and we will hate each other forever. That is the end of the story. Love doesn't exist between nations anymore. Only Serbs and Greeks are true brothers.

Alex Belgrade		06-Feb-2006 20:59
I have definetely concluded that I am the most peaceful guy on this forum. Look how tolerant I try to be. Just occassionally I get a bit upset or emotional. You guys should be like me. SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME A NOBEL PEACE PRIZE :) Peace to the Balkans. Kiss to Greece. MAKE LOVE NOT WAR... Our past has been so terrible at times. Can we make the future better, for the sake of our children and their children? Or are we always gonna insult, fight and hate each other. Stefan Serb, is it possible for you to talk in a civilized way to Tirana? It can work, it just takes a little good will and self control. Of course, that goes to all others here. I think people enjoy unleashing out bad words because there is no moderation of the forum, so everyone feels he or she can say just about every nasty thing that comes to mind. After a long while, that's BORING. Vlad, are you planning a visit to Belgrade?

Alex Belgrade		06-Feb-2006 20:49
It is very misfortunate that someone is using someone else's name. That is cowardly and rude. Too bad this forum does not have the Login option to be mandatory, because if we all had a registered name, then others could not be using other people's names. The persons who hide beneath other people are really miserable, whoever they are. Tirana, Tirana - the real Tirana, not the fake one, I just reacted to that message in which your immitator said he would come to Belgrade and kick our butts. I didn't know it wasn't you. You know, it seemed strange to me because that was not your style of writing so far. I am glad we straightened it out. Tirana, again I am talking about the real Tirana and not the fake one, if you want to visit Belgrade I promise you that I will do my best to make your stay comfortable and safe. I would show you the city etc. I am not proposing a friendship, but an opportunity for you too see Belgrade for yourself. That will help you get rid of many of your prejudice towards Serbs. Likewise, in a similar way, if I one day went to see Albania with you showing me around, I would definetely loose some prejudice about Albanians. So, a civilized conversation and a civilized hanging out would be okay. Can we become friends? Maybe, I leave options on the table. So far I have been in 90% pleased with your attitude. You seem normal, rational, educated. We will never agree on Kosovo, but I am ready to sit with you for a cup of coffee and talk. At least this could be the beginning of a long healing process between Albanians and Serbs, and vice versa. Is that possible? We should all give each other a chance. I know Stefan will strongly disagree, but this is my position. If politicans had been thinking like this, no wars would happen. I think insulting each other is really stupid. We can all say bad words. But, trying to be civilized to each other, that is a real challenge. Of course, those who are looking for a fight will get one, but I would much prefer if we could all became like normal human beings.

Tirana		06-Feb-2006 17:32
Alex, Was that you who was asking me and Stefan some weeks earlier not to act like a child? What are you proposing me right now, a fight meeting? Com'on man be an adult! Again, it wasn't me who wrote that! Tirana, plako mos e perdor nick-un tim ne menyre qe te mos ngaterrohemi. S'eshte puna qe t'i shajme se nuk do arrijme ndonje gje me ate, thjesht them se eshte me mire te diskutojme. Ok? Hajt shnet. Tung, neqoftese je kosovar!

Tirana		06-Feb-2006 17:23
Hello guys...i've seen that "someone" is using my nickname...well what's certain is that i can't write after 19.00 cause i don't have an internet connection where i live, so "he" or "she" is definitely not me. Alex don't worry, i still have lots of arguments, but i just don't have time right now. I've told you that i don't live in Tirana right now, so what's the point? Don't think that Albanians don't know how to speak English. Nearly everybody (amongst young people) speak three or four foreign languages ;). (i'm sure you can't do that in Serbia). Again, this is not an argument to show off, but just to show you that maybe you don't know us very well and when you say that we are uninstructed and uneducated you just point to a small minority of people. Why can't you just admit that all of us are not the same, as Serbs are not the same either? Stefan, maybe it's true that our government wants the integration of Kosovo into Albania, but that doesn't mean that albanians think the same way. I mean, if it's possible why not, but if not, Albanians in Albania don't pay too much attention to that. That's something that you'll never believe, but that's not my problem. Finally, i'm trying to be friend with no one in here, but just not to be enemies!

Alex Belgrade		06-Feb-2006 16:01
Tirana, You are probably the only Albanian whose English is reasonably good. Haha. You are probably not even living in Tirana. If you want to come to Belgrade as a friend, you are welcome. But, if you want to TRY to kick my ass or Stefan's, we'll be there. Just say when you are comin'. Cuz we sure ain't gonna be comin' to Albania. Hahaha

tirana		06-Feb-2006 14:13
i will visit belgrade to kick your fucking butts assholes

Alex Belgrade		06-Feb-2006 14:07
Vlad, I don't know why he called me a dumbass - he later admitted he used the word for no purpose. In any case I can still discuss things with Tirana but his last ugly message was intended for everyone. If he wants to visit Belgrade he is welcome, as far as I am concerned. Stefan is in London, so Tirana, you will be safe in Belgrade :)

Vlad		06-Feb-2006 12:16
ALEX BUT I REMEMBER THAT YOU BEGAN YOUR SPEAKING WITH TIRANA PEACEFULLY. WHY HE CALLED YOU DUMBASS? HE GAVE PEACIFIC WORDS BEFORE. HE SAYS ALSO THAT HE WANT TO COME IN BELGRADE. THIS HATE BETWEEN SERBS AND ALBANIANS ARE AS STRONG?

Alex Belgrade		06-Feb-2006 06:24
Vlad, Believe me, Tito had done more damage to the Serbian national identity and religion, than all the foreign invaders combined together. Before Communism, the Serbian state always grew. We even had an empire. In modern ages, it constantly grew, from 1804, until 1945, when Tito gave Baranja to Croatia, created the Muslim and Macedonian nation and created Republics (states within Yugoslavia) at the expense of Serbian centuries old lands. He even divided Serbia into 3 parts - Central Serbia, Vojvodina and Kosovo as 2 autonomous provinces. At the same time, no other autonomous provinces were created, and there could have been many more. Yugoslavia was successful basically more on the outside than on the inside - but if it was so good, why did it fall apart in such agony? Because it was a fake and failed project, designed to last while the Communist ideology lasted. If it was a solid country built to last, it would not have collapsed so quickly. We are today paying a price of Tito's ideology, Tito's ridiculous borders (that have cut the Serbian entity into pieces) and Milosevic's stubborn policy with the West. None of this would have happened if we did not have Communism in the first place. The result of Tito's project is - Serbian lands scattered across the former Yugoslavia, and Serbs there living in enemy environment (Bosnian Muslims, Croats, Albanians). Divided Serbian Church - there is an unrecognized Montenegro and Macedonian Orthodox Church, created by Tito. Why did he not divide the Catholics? He also created some nations that never existed like Muslims. In Yugoslavia, Muslims were a NATION, not a religion. Etc. Not to mention the Communist Terror from 1945 to as far as 1960. All opposition was silenced. There was a forced labor camp known as Goli Otok. So, behind the phasade of a successful Yugoslavia was Communist Tyranny, no different than any other such tyranny in the world, in which Serbs were the biggest victims. That's the basic truth. If you ask me, I prefer to have free elections, the freedom of choice and the freedom of speech and political opinion. None of that existed in Yugoslavia. Capitalism has proven to be more successful. Cold War is over. America won. Russia lost. End of story. Russia is now dealing with the West. And Stefan, you are living in the West and at the same time, you spit on the West. That's not very nice. Once again, you have the right to be Communist, but remember that the Communists had never given any of us the right to have our own opinion, different than theirs. Let's just drop talking about Tito, Communism, Yutgoslavia. It's over. Serbia will soon be a fully independent country which will rediscover its roots and will be (and is already) a democratic country. One day it will be in the EU. End of story.

Vlad		05-Feb-2006 21:49
TITO'S REGIME WASN'T IN MY OPINION REALLY COMMUNIST BUT NAZIONALCOMMUNIST. WHEN IN BELGRADE WAS OPEN THE SLOVENIAN MERKATOR, BELGRADE INHABITANTS SAYS: ZIVEO TITO, BECAUSE CERTAINLY FOR SERBS TITO WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE. SERBIA UNDER TITO'S YUGOSLAVIA WASN'T A STATE, BUT WAS A CENTER OF AN IMPORTANT BUT COMPOSITE STATE. ALEX, I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU CONSIDER TITO'S ERA NEGATIVE, YOU ARE IN CONTRAST AGAINST ALL SERBS.

Alex Belgrade		05-Feb-2006 21:42
Stefan I demand your apology for saying that the Serbian historic national anthem is shitty. You have the right to have your political opinion - and that includes the right to be Communist and to like the Hej Sloveni song, but you have no right to say such a thing about a historic national anthem. That's the problem with you Communists - you twist everything around. Just remember that Serbia is not a state since 1945, but much, much, much earlier. History did not begin in 1945. I am really hurt and really angry to hear such a comment from a fellow Serb. I am really disappointed in you.

Alex Belgrade		05-Feb-2006 21:34
Tirana, Yeah Albania is the best. Hahahahaha What's the matter? Run out of arguments? Go back under Hoxha's bunker and ride a donkey, I am glad you guys now have food to eat.

Alex Belgrade		05-Feb-2006 21:30
Stefan Serb, Hej Sloveni or Hey Slavs is the anthem of Communist Yugoslavia. That Yugoslavia is finished. Communism is finished, get that into your head. By the way it's a copy of the national anthem of Poland - the words are different but the tune is the same. It has been WORN OUT like a pair of old shoes. When Montenegro goes, it will be just Serbia and Serbia has its historic national anthem, it's not Hej Sloveni, it's Boze pravde or Lord of Justice. For your information, this national anthem has been in use since 1882 and between 2 world wars it was proclaimed as one of the 3 best national anthems at a competition in Paris. We fought in the Balkan wars and WW 1 under this national anthem - Boze pravde, that you call shitty. You know what, if you are a true Serb, than you should not sing Hej Sloveni. In any case, Serbia has its national anthem, flag and coat of arms, and Hej Sloveni is finished. As soon as Montenegro goes, it will finally be just Serbia. Fuck you for saying that our historic national anthem is shitty. You are a Yugoslav, not a Serb. For your information, NEVER again Yugoslavia, never again Hej Sloveni... Your Serbian nationalism is mixed with Yugoslav and that sucks. Tito is dead, and he will not get up from his grave. Milosevic is in the Hague and he will die there. Hej Sloveni is dead - it's only a matter of months before we finally get rid of it. Boze pravde is a beautiful, national, patriotic and religious song that gives me so much power. How dare you insult our history and yet you call yourself a true Serb? I am not a Yugoslav. A South Slav or whatever. I am a SERB. Why is it wrong for Serbia to have its own national anthem. You made me so mad. Thank God, you Communists will NEVER be in power again. No more red star, no more Hej Sloveni. No more Tito. It's all finished. Too bad you don't see it. NEVER AGAIN. Hasta la vista baby. In the first elections we will kick the Socialist Party finally out of Parliament. You have no right to call yourself a Serbian nationalist and patriot. You are a Yugoslav and a Communist.

tirana		05-Feb-2006 21:01
fuck off.we albanians are the best.u suck dicks.

Vlad		05-Feb-2006 19:39
BUT IN MY OPINION, PROBABILY THE STRONGEST SERBIAN ARMY IS AT THE PRESENT THE VOJSKA OF REPUBLIKA SRPSKA, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT ALSO IN BOSNIA BEFORE THE ARRIVE OF INTERNATIONAL'S TROOPS, THE ARMY OF SERBO-BOSNIANS WAS IN THE POINT TO DEFEAT TOTALLY THE MOSLEMS AND CROATS. I ASKED ME, WHAT HAPPENED IN KRAJINA IF WHILE GOTOVINA MASSACRED SERBS AS JESENOVAC IN THE PAST, SERBIAN VOJSKA OF BELGRADE AND SERBIAN VOJSKA OF PALE CAME IN KNIN TO DEFEND THE SERBS OF KRAJINA? MILAN MARTIC COUNTED ONLY ON HIMSELF, HE WITH HIS 50000TROOPS FIGHT OWN AGAINST 150000CROATS OF HV AND HVO DRIVED BY ANTE GOTOVINA WHO TAKED KNIN AFTER ONLY 2 DAYS WITH HIS OPERATION "OLUJA" (TEMPEST). PROBABILY IF KARADZIC AND MILOSEVIC CAME WITH THEIR ARMY TO DEFEND YOUR BROTHER OF KRAJINA, CROATIAN VOJSKA CAN BE DEFEATED, BECAUSE GOTOVINA IN THAT CASE FIGHT AGAINST THREE ARMIES. I THINK THAT MILOSEVIC HAD A SECRET ACCORD WITH HIS SECRET FRIEND TUDJMAN O DIVIDE THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA. PROBABILY, TUDJMAN TALK TO MILOSEVIC THAT IF SERBIA PERMIT TO CROATIA TO CATCH SERBS OF KRAJINA, CROATIA PERMIT TO SERBIA TO TAKE INDIRECT AN HALF PART OF BOSNIA. THEREFORE REPUBLIKA SRPSKA IS A TERRITORY OF 48% OF BOSNIA WHILE SERBS THERE ARE ONLY 31%. WE CAN'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. CERTAINLY CROATIA HAS A GRAT SIMPATY BY WESTERN POWERS, WHILE SERBIA COUNTED ONLY ON RUSSIA, ALSO IF NOW PUTIN DECLARED THAT RUSSIA ISN'T INTEREST ABOUT KOSOVO'S SITUATION. IN MY OPINION THE ONLY WAY TO RESOLVE THE CRISIS OF FORMER YUGOSLAVIA IS THAT EUROPEAN LEADERSHIPS STOP TO BE ALLIATED WITH THIS OR THAT FORMER YUGOSLAV STATE, BUT THAT EUROPE REASON UNITED WITHOUT CONVENIENCE ABOUT THE NECESSITY TO CREATE A STABIL AND PEACIFIC BALKAN REGION. PROBABILY IN THESE LAST COMMENTS I TREATED ONLY MANY ARGOUMENTS WITHOUT SENSE TODAY, BUT I THINK THAT BY THE ERROR OF THE PAST WE CAN TO GIVE THE SOLUTIONS OF THE FUTUR, AND THEREFORE I CONSIDER THAT HISTORY IS THE MOTHER OF THE FAR-SEEING. AND THAT GIVE SENS TO MY CURIOSITY. IN EVERY CASE I'M A STUDENT OF POLITICAL SCIENCES AND MY NATURE IS TO TREAT THESE QUESTIONS. SEE YOU AS SOON

Guest		05-Feb-2006 18:25
Alturnatavely I have a small amount of Serbian weapons (obviously not in England) which I have taken photos of and uploaded on to a gallery at: http://www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/weapons Thanks, Stefan SERB

Guest		05-Feb-2006 17:55
Vlad, Serbian Army is still extremely strong, we have lost some ground since sanctions in the way of good technological equipment, but our National Service still exists and our weaponry is very very fine. Basically if the shit kicked off in central Serbia, any resistance will be crushed because all males know how to fight thanks to our compulsary Vojska Service at the age of 18. We have crafted many many weapons and one of our main industries is weapon export to nations across the Globe. Our M70 AK47 variant is widely used all over Earth and our landmines are still among the best. We have made aircraft such as the 'Orao - Eagle Jet', 'Galeb', 'Jasteb' and many many more. Our air force has many MiGs and other aircraft and our military influence is huge. There is an enourmous presence of Serbian Nationalism outside and even some inside of Belgrade. Particularly in the countryside everyone is just for Serbs. Children still sing 'Hej Sloveni' anthem instead of the new one. To tell the truth I never heard the new one or know any of the words of even the tune. When this World cup comes you bet your life I will be standing tall singing Hej Sloveni instead of shitty new one. If you want some more of serbian vojska there is many sites on search engines plus: http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/models/ka274.html http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/models/ka270.html http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/models/ka238.html http://www.inert-ord.net/yugos/index.html

Alex Belgrade		05-Feb-2006 16:44
Vlad, First, the Serbian army is still strong. In any case, when you have defiance it helps. Remember that we withstood Austria-Hungary and Hitler, even though our army was much weaker than theirs. Croats may have bought new planes, but they are cowards at heart. They suffer from pathological Serbo-phobia. In any case, there is no use talking about the whys and the whats of the breakup of Yugoslavia. There are many excellent analyses out there, and it would be a long story. Simply said, there was no need for a strong Yugoslavia after the Cold War ended, and the West made the war happen - it was easy, the civil wars in Yugoslavia were sponsored and fueled (by media, by finance, by arms etc) from the outside, like many times before. Yugoslav politicians were just players in the hands of the West. Pandora's Box can easily be opened anywhere in the Balkans. But, it can hardly be closed after that. What the West has done to Yugoslavia, and particularly the Serbian people, will come back to them like a boomerang. It has already begun - Al Qaeda's attacks on America, Spain, England, violence in France and now the trouble of Islam and Denmark. What is happening to Christian Orthodox churches in Kosovo today, will tomorrow be hapenning to the Christian (Protestant, Catholic, Anglican) churches in Western Europe and America. We are here, and we have to make the best of it. So, let's forget talking about Yugoslavia. What's done is done, we can't change it. As for Montenegro, it was a recognized independent state from 1878 to 1918. Then it entered Yugoslavia, as well as in 1945 and 1992, and today forms a State Union with Serbia. They have a statehood and if they want independence, that's fine. We can't deny them that. But, the regime in Montenegro only wants the Montenegrins in Montenegro to vote on the referendum. Serbia wants Montenegrins in Serbia to also have a right to vote, because there are almost as many Montenegrins in Serbia as there are in Montenegro. Also, Montenegro regime says 40% or even 25% of voters is enough for independence. Serbia says - at least 50% plus one voter should vote, and out of all the people who came to vote, if at least 50% plus one person vote for independence, then it will be fair. Also there is a question of media control and fair reporting. Milo Djukanovic has control of most media in Montenegro. So, Serbia does not deny Montenegro the right to a referendum, but it must be done fairly and in accordance with international standards. This is also the position of the EU. So, while Montenegro has had a state before, Kosovo and Vojvodina have not. That's why Montenegro CAN have independence, but Kosovo and Vojvodina SHOULD NOT. Don't worry about Vojvodina, it will not go anywhere. The majority there is Serbian. As for Kosovo, it's out of our hands but the West seems to be advocating "conditional independence", a model previously unseen in international practice.

Vlad		05-Feb-2006 13:04
THE DEMONSTRATION THAT I'VE RIGHT, IS THAT US HELP CROATIA TO INCREASE THEIR VOJSKA WHO NOW IS VERY GOOD, FOR EXAMPLE AFTER THE WAR AGAINST SERBIA, CROATIAN GOVERNMENT HAD VERY MUCH MONEY TO BUY BY US ARMY INDUSTRIES (UNDER CEAUSESCU'S ERA WE EXPORTED ARMES IN THE VALOUR OF 1500MILLIARD OF DOLLARS, BECAUSE WE HAVE A GOOD ARMY INDUSTRIES) 30 FIGHT AIRCRAFT "LANCER" TO MAKE UP THEIR AIR ARMY. CROATIA BENEFIT ALSO BY TROOPS TRAINED BY US OFFICIALS. NOW I KNOW THAT SERBIAN VOJSKA WHO WAS CONSIDERABLE IN THE PAST, FOR ARMY AND FOR POWER, NOW IS SMALL AND WEAK BECAUSE NATO DESTROYED ITS GOOD ARMY INDUSTRIES AND BECAUSE USA DON'T WANT TO PAY THEIR STRIKES. USA HATE YOU VERY MUCH, BECAUSE YOU WAS IN THE PAST THE CENTER OF FORMER YUGOSLAVIA AND BECAUSE AFTER THE END OF URSS THEY CONSIDERED YUGOSLAVIA A SMALL URSS OF BALKAN. VATICAN GAVE QUICKLY ITS HELP TO SLOVENIA AND CROATIA (NOT FORGET CROATIAN VATICAN'S LOBBIES), GERMANY QUICKLY GAVE ITS HELP TO SLOVENIA AND CROATIA BECAUSE BERLIN SAW IN THEM A NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR GERMAN INVESTIMENT. NOW SERBIAN PEOPLE IS OWN IN THE HANDS OF THESE PROBLEMS BUT YOU MUSTN'T SURRENDER EXPECIALLY IN KOSOVO, BECAUSE IF YOU SURRENDER ALSO MONTENEGRO OR HUNGARIANS FROM VOJVODINA CAN ASK INDEPENDECE AND USA CERTAINLY IS VERY HAPPY FOR THIS.

Vlad		05-Feb-2006 12:49
THE WORLD OF FORMER YUGOSLAVIA IS VERY INTERESTING. CROATS HATE YOU VERY MUCH IN MY OPINION MORE THAN YOU HATE THEIR. BUT I REMEMBER THAT FORMER YUGOSLAVIA HAD A GOOG ECONOMICAL SITUATION, FOR EXAMPLE A CITIZEN TAKED EVERY MONTH 400 EURO AND INFRASTRUCTURA WAS GOOD. NOW WHILE SLOVENIA LEAVE BY THAT POINT ALSO BECAUSE IT HADN'T A LONG WAR AND KNEW AN ECONOMICAL BOOM WHO PERMIT THEM TO HAVE NOW A WAGES OF 1200EURO, TO HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURA BETTER ALSO THAN ITALY OR SPAIN, AND TO BUY THE FORMER "MERKATOR". CROATIA HAD A LONG WAR, BUT THEY SAVED THEIR ECONOMY BY TURISM AND THAT THEY HAVE A MEDIUM WAGES OF 600-700EURO WITH A MODERN MOTORROADS AND INFRASTUCTURA IN EVERYCASE NOT COMPARED WITH SLOVENIA. BUT IF SLOVENIA AND CROATIA COULD (ALSO THANKS WESTERN COMPLICITY) TO LEAVE BY THE GOOG FORMER YUGOSLAVIAN SITUATION AND INCREASE IT TO ARRIVE AT OCCIDENTAL STANDARS, SERBIA WAS OBLIGATED TO HAS A LONG EMBARGO AND TO HAVE ITS INFRASTRUCTURA DESTROYED BY WESTERN ARROGANCE AND BY VATICAN'S COMPLICITY. IN ONLY FEW WEEKS NATO DESTROYED YEARS OF WORK, FOR EXAMPLE ZASTAVA. AND NOW WHILE BOSNIA AND MACEDONIA ARE POOR (I BELIEVE BECAUSE THERE IS A STRONG ISLAMIC INFLUENCES ON THEIR MENTALITY), SERBIA ALSO NOW NOT RECEIVED HELP OF EU OR NATO FOR THEIR STRIKES. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU NOW MUST TO BE ANGRY AGAINST CROATS WHO NOT PAYER FOR THEIR "OLUJA OPERATION" AGAINST KRAJINA'S SERBS. CERTAINLY A CAN'T UNDERSTAND THEIR ATTITUDE TO FORGET SERBIA, EXPECIALLY THIS ATTITUDE OF CROATS FROM SLAVONIA OR BARANIA WHO ARE MORE NEAR SERBIA THAN ZAGREB. BUT ALSO TODAY, I BELIEVE THAT YOU EVEN GOING IN THEIR COAST FOR SUMMER. BECAUSE INN CROATIA I SAW MANY SERBS AND I THINK: "IF CROATS HATE THEM IN THIS KIND, POOR THEM IF THEY CROSSED A CROATIAN VILLAGE." IT'S INCREDIBLE HOW FOREIGN INFLUENCES CAN DESTROYED IN THIS KIND A STRONG COUNTRY LIKE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA. NOW AFTER YUGOSLAV EXPLOTION REMAIN ONLY MANY SMALL STATES THAT CAN BE ONTROL BY USA ARROGANCE.

Alex Belgrade		05-Feb-2006 02:02
Albanians are better people than Croats. When an Albanian gives you his "besa" or word, he will do everything to keep his word. If he gives you his "besa" that you will not get hurt, then you will not get hurt. A Croat would just wait to trick you when you are not looking.

Alex Belgrade		05-Feb-2006 01:59
Stefan Serb, I would do everything on a reciprocal basis. If Croats do not have Serbian road signs, why should we have Croatian road signs? Croats do not read Serbian authors any more, they have all been thrown out, but in our libraries you will still find works of Marin Drzic, Ivan Gundulic, Miroslav Krleza and others. Croats have changed all street names of Serbian towns. In Belgrade there are still streets named after Croatian towns, even after the capital Zagreb. Why? Why do we always have to do more, give more, reach out more? We forgave them for WW 1 and they repaid us by killing our King Alexander in France. We forgave them for WW 2 and the genocide, and they again stabbed us in the back in the 1990s. I know Europe will make us normalize our relations, but I just want it to be reciprocal on both sides. For example, if a Croat singer comes here, then a Serbian singer should go there. If they introduce visas, we introduce visas. If they attack our embassy, we attack their embassy. Etc. That is the best way. Strictly business. No love. None of that "brotherhood and unity" shit that Tito fed us. Just business and a safe distance between us. If I could make the Wall of China between Serbia and Croatia, I would. But, if we must communicate, as countries, let it be on a reciprocal level. In other words, what they do to us, we do to them. No more, no less.

Alex Belgrade		05-Feb-2006 00:58
Vlad, When Yugoslavia was one country we travelled everywhere, studied, visited each other, married. Back in those days most people did not think if they were Serbian, Croatian, etc. But I can tell you that the Catholic Church has always been much stronger in Zagreb than the Serbian Orthodox Church in Belgrade. The ones who felt maybe a little uneasy were Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia, as they remembered the genocide of WW 2. On the surface everything was OK. Obviously, there was a lot of horror beneath the surface, and that could be seen when all that hidden hate erupted like a volcano. Old unsettled scores, religious, territorial, ethnic... everything just blew up. Yugoslavia was a beautiful country. Was. I would never like to see it again, because it's obvious it can't work. 3 Yugoslavias have existed, and all have failed. King Alexander's, Tito's and Milosevic's. Serbian people paid the highest price each time. It just couldn't work. After so much bloodshed and hate, I am finally glad that Croatia is not in our state anymore. Yugoslavia is dead and, as far as I am concerned, I hope the Croats sink in the Adriatic Sea and die. I am a Serb and my country is Serbia. I do not even want to think of Yugoslavia, it brings too much pain. I have wasted the best years of my youth on a failed project called Yugoslavia. I wish I could just forget it all.

real		05-Feb-2006 00:39
i agree with you alex from what i seen you are right,i coundnt stay in my town i loved. growing up we were altogerther but still the hate underneath i live in a western country now and still some of them acting tough .for me if you good i dont care where your from at least nobody here dare say serb bastard to me but i still hate radicals on both sides, i blame ourside a little for not finishing what was started.

Guest		04-Feb-2006 22:52
Yes you are right Vlad, Serbs are not like Croats in logic, they are sneaky and selfish mindset, they think only for themselves and how to destroy others so they can be superior. If you believe me, they have the Western mindset and that is what makes them outperform us because they do not think how to better all of Yugoslavia just themselves. The first sign you see as you exit from Belgrade Airport is roadsigns pointing to Zagreb and Ljubljana. We do this because we have no reason to have no signs. If you think about it, what is the point to remove them? That is not glorifying the Croatian State, it is just a god damn sign pointing the direction so you don't have to ask people or use a Satellite Navigation System. That is so disrespectful in my opinion and I am so surprised that Croats still hate Serbs so much, in London people don't hate Germans because of World War Two for Christ's Sake! It is ridiculus, I have been to Zagreb and Dalmatia even after the war (mainly because my grandmother was Croatian in the town of Split) and now I don't want to go back. Did you know Vlad that every time Serbian sports club of any kind go to Croatia, if Croats lose or win, they throw stones and molotov cocktails at our buses. Like when Crvena Zvezda went during Summer of 2005 to face shitty Croatian side Inter and slaughtered them something like 5:0, their hooligan fans vandalised our buses. Then they were surprised it was all over BBC when Serbs returned the favour a couple of weeks later in the second leg. It was not on TV when they did it to us. It is also never on TV in England when Croats teenage thugs kill old Serbian lady or a similar situation. I can only find out when I buy Serbian foreign newspaper 'Vesti' or Novosti'. Croats are still Nazi as Alex said but I don't agree with you Alex that they will not get in EU without signs. They will get in the EU with signs or without thanks to their friends Austrians and other Catholica countries. Vlad, do not try and understand Croats, they are so jealous even though their economical situation is far superior to ours with their recent tourism explosion. They hate us like I hate Albanians and they will never stop so fuck Croats and all who are against Serbs. Also I hear that the shit is kicking off in Iran, hopefully America will flex their muscles a bit more. I am not doubting they can take Iran. They will run it over in 2 weeks but they will suffer heavy losses comparing to shitty coward Iraq. SRBIJA I ELLAS ZA UVEK!!

Vlad		04-Feb-2006 18:39
MY EXPERIENCE IN FORMER YGOSLAVIA WAS VERY INTERESTING, BECAUSE I SAW MANY THINGS THAT I CAN'T BELIEVE. EXPECIALLY IN CROATIA. WAS INCREDIBLE FOR ME TO SEE THAT THEY WANT TO DO ALL FOR SHOW THAT SERBIA NOT EXIST. EVERY INDICATIONS IN SLAVONIA AND BARANIA SIGN ONLY TO WEST AND THE FACT THAT SLAVONIA IS POOR AND LEAVED IN MY OPINION IS A DEMONSTRATION THAT CROAT GOVERNMENT WANT TO SHOW THAT CROATIA CONSIDER HIS EAST BORDER INEXISTENT. IS A PARADOXAL SITUATION. I WAS VERY CURIOUS TO SEE IF THERE ARE SOME SIGN OF SERBIAN MINORITY OR OF YUGOSLAV PAST, BUT NEVER. I'M NOT SAW A CROATIAN THAT WENT IN SERBIA, BYUT I SAW MANY SERBS CROSSED CROATIA, AND THIS SHOW THAT YOU AREN'T ANGRY AGAINST THEM AS THEY AGAINST YOU. HOW IS POSSIBLE THAT A CROAT OF FOR EXAMPLE 40 OR 30 YEARS OLD ISN'T CURIOUS TO GO BACK AFTER 15 YEARS IN THE FORMER CAPITAL OF HIS FORMER STATE. CERTAINLY IN THE PAST MANY CROATIANS WENT IN BELGRADE, BUT NOW I DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE CROATIAN TEENS OR YOUNG AREN'T CURIOUS TO SEE A STATE WHO WAS UNITED WITH THEM IN THE PAST. HOW CAN A CROAT WHO STUDIED IN BELGRAD IN HIS YOUNG LIFE TO DON'T WANT TO GO BACK ALSO FOR FEW HOURS IN THE PLACE WHERE HE STUDIED. AND ANYMORE OSIJEK AND VUKOVAR ARE MORE NEAR SERBIA THAT ZAGREB. IN THEIR MIND I'M SURE THAT SERBIA LIVE ALSO NOW, AND THEREFORE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THEIR ATTITUDE TO REMOVE EVERY THING WHO SHOW THEIR PAST TOGETHER SERBIA. EXISTS CROATS IN VOJVODINA? OR IN BELGRADE? I BELIEVE THAT IN BELGRADE ARE ALSO SLOVENIANS, AND IN LUBIANA CERTAINLY LIVED I THINK FEW SERBS. EVERY YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THESE MINE CONSIDERATIONS ARE ACCEPTED.

Alex Belgrade		04-Feb-2006 17:18
Whether any of you like it or not, Serbia is the cornerstone of the former Yugoslavia. Serbia had given the most sacrifice for the foundation of Yugoslavia. Prior to WW 1, there were 2 Serbian independent states: Serbia and Montenegro. Serbian people have given 2 of their Kingdoms for Yugoslavia. Serbia had won WW 1 and had fought the Nazis in WW 2. Mihailovich's movement was majorly Serbian and Tito's was Yugoslav, but in it the majority were Serbs. Serbs were the ones who first dared say no to Hitler. Serbs were the ones who organized the first anti-Nazi movement. Serbs were the ones who managed to delay Hitler's attack on Russia. Unfortunately for all these post-Yugoslav states, only Serbia is the one oldest of them all, with longest running state. In 1346 we had an Empire to which Dubrovnik had to pay taxes. While Serbs fought the Turks and lost, the Croats just handed their state over to Austria-Hungary. Back in those days Croatia was very small, and Istria, Damlatia and Slavonia were separate entities, as was the Vojna Krajina, or Military Froentier, the area between the Austro-Hungarian and Turkish Empire. Croatia had a Nazi state in 1941 and it had murdered upto 700,000 Serbs, Jews, Roma and others, in death camps such as Jasenovac. In 1991 Croatia got independence from Yugoslavia, thanks to Germany, the Vatican and the United States. Miserable Croats even sang "Danke Deutschland", or Thank You Germany. Such misery. Serbs would never sing anything like that, not even "Thank You Russia". Slovenia had never been a state, until 1991. Bosnia and Hercegovina had been a Serbian state in the Middle Ages. Tvrtko Kotromanic, Bosnia's biggest ruler, was related to Serbian Prince Lazar and had sent him a unit to fight the Turks in Kosovo. Like Serbia, Bosnia too fell to the Turks, and that is when Islam started to enter Bosnia. FYR Macedonia had never had its own state, until 1991. In 1346, in Skopje, capital of today's FYR Macedonia, Tsar Dusan of Serbia was crowned. After the Balkan wars, Macedonia became part of Serbia. After WW 1, it was the first place to be liberated by Serbian soldiers following the breach of the Thesaloniki front. Montenegro has had its own state that eventually fell to the Turks. Only a small mountain of Lovcen remained free from Turkish conquest. In modern times, Serbia got international recognition and independence in 1878 at the Congress of Berlin. Montenegro also got recognition and independence at the same Congress. No other South Slavic state got recognition. So, Serbia, Montenegro were recognized 113 years BEFORE Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Macedonia. So, all these ridiculous new states, new nations, even new Churches - such as the Montenegro Orthodox Church or Macedonian Orthodox Church, all this is ridiculous for Serbia, because Serbia has been there before all of them. The Serbian Orthodox Church exists as an autocephalous (independent and self-governing) Church since 1219. So, all these other states and nations that have never existed and that have been formed at the expense of territories where Serbs have been living for centuries (Krajina, parts of Bosnia, Kosovo) can just KISS MY ASS. That especially goes to Croatia, one of the few countries in the world where Nazism is alive and well. The Croatian Nazi Party, known as Ustashe, exists and has its offices in Zagreb. The reason why all these new states and nations hate Serbia so much is because we are older than all of them, we have had a state when they had not, and we had fought on the right side in both world wars, and they had not. As far as I am concerned, they can go on and hate us. I would be really worried if the Croats or the Albanians actually LIKED us.

Alex Belgrade		04-Feb-2006 16:56
Vlad and Stefan, Serbs and Croats are NOT brothers. We may have shared the same Slavic origin once, but that is over. Croats have lost BOTH world wars. Each time they massacred Serbs, particularly during WW 2 under Nazi Croatian state. And each time Serbs forgave them and they were allowed to enter Yugoslavia in 1918 and in 1945. Croats did not have to pay war damages, and they did not have to feel like loosers who had lost the war, which they did, both times. But, they always stabbed us in the back. Croats are very cunning, sweet on the outside, but on the inside they are true and pathological haters of everyone and everything that is Serbian. In 1991, there was extreme nationalism in both Croatia and Serbia. But, in Croatia they sold empty cans of "PURE CROATIAN AIR". We had no similar thing in Serbia. Also, their pop music was popular in Belgrade even during the war. In Belgrade we still have streets named after many Croatian writers and towns. We have road signs that point to Zagreb. In Croatia, all cyrillic books have been burned or thrown out (like during Nazism), you will not find streets named after Serbian towns, you will not find roadsigns that point to Serbia etc. In Croatia the madness is still present, and will always be present. Our two languages are not the same because Croats have invented their own language and words. I have Croatian Television in Belgrade and sometimes I have to hear the English word when I watch a movie, to understand what it is. Croatia is a beautiful country - Adriatic Sea, the Roman amphitheater town of Pula, the ancient city of Dubrovnik, the grain fields of Slavonia and Baranja, etc, but the Croats are really a people with a lot of complexes. That's because Serbia has a state older than theirs, and because Serbs beat the Croats in BOTH world wars. Croatia was a Nazi country, and still is. It's the most ethnically pure country in Europe. It has managed to present itself as democratic, but in reality it's not, especially for Serbs. But, it will not be able to enter the EU until it allows all 250,000 Serbs to return, and to have all rights. As for Slovenia, we have nothing against Slovenia. There was a short "weekend war" in 1991 because of Slovenian secession from Yugoslavia, but we let them go because we have never had anything with them, any disputes in terms of land and peoples. With Croatia and Bosnia it was a different story. Many Serbs live there and we had to get involved, to protect our people from Croatian Nazi state being reborn, and from Islamic fanatics of Alija Izetbegovic, who brought the mujahedins to Bosnia, and whom the West, unfortunately, supported, as it supported the islamic terrorists and drug dealers in Kosovo.

Vlad		04-Feb-2006 11:30
YES STEFAN, YOU ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. I WAS IN DUBROVNICK 5 YEARS AGO, IT IS BEAUTIFUL, AND WESTERN CROATIA IS VERY DEVELOPED, THE SAME THAT GREECE. ZAGREB IS ALSO AN OCCIDENTAL TOWN, BUT SLAVONIA AND BARANIA IN MY OPINION ARE POOR, PROBABILY THERE AREN'T FOREIGN INVESTIMENT LIKE IN ISTRIA AND DALMATIA. I DON'T KNOW MONTENEGRO BUT I SAW SOME POSTCARDS AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL LIKE CROATIA BUT, CERTAINLY IS POOREST THAT THEM. ALSO KOPER IN SLOVENIA IS VERY BEAUTIFUL BUT SLOVEN IA ISN'T A COUNTRY WITH SEA TURISM TRADITION, IN MY OPINION SLOVENIA IS A SMALL AUSTRIA AND THEY GIVE ME AN IMPRESSION THAT THEY WANT TO BE CONSIDERED MITTLEEUROPEAN AND NOT BALKANIANS. DIFFERENT THAN SERBS AND CROATS THEY HAVE ITS LANGUAGE WHO SEEMS SERBOCROATIAN BUT HAS SOME DIFFERENCES (FOR EXAMPLES RIJEKA IS KNOWN AS REKA). CROATIANS SEEMS THAT THEY WANT TO FORGET YUGOSLAV PAST, FOR EXAMPLE IN CROATIA ISN'T A THING WHO REMEMBER THAT PAST, THE ANSWER THAT THEY GAVE ME WHEN I ASKED THE WAY TO BELGRADE SHOW THAT THEY WANT TO CANCEL THAT EXPERIENCE, AND THAT THEY WANT TO SHOW THAT THEIR HISTORY BEGAN ONLY 15 YEARS AGO. IN MY OPINION THIS IS A GREAT MISTAKE, BECAUSE TITO WAS CROATIAN AND BECAUSE IN EVERYCASE SLOVENIANS, CROATIANS AND SERBS ARE THE SAME ETHNIC GROUP (SLAVICS OF THE SOUTH THIS IS THE MEANING OF YUGOSLAVIA). I ASK ME WHY CROATIANS NOT GO IN SERBIA FOR EXAMPLE FOR A TRAVEL. FOR EXAMPLE A MAN WHO LIVE IN OSIJEK OR IN VUKOVAR CAN TO VISIT A WEEK END VOJVODINA WHO ARE AT THE BORDER. IN THE PAST I KNOW THAT THEY WENT TO UNIVERSITY IN BELGRADE (AS THE SOONS OF TUDJMAN WHO WAS ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF PARTIZAN BELGRADE). AND NOW I ASSIST TO AN INCREDIBLE SITUATION, EVERYTHING IN SLAVONIA SEEMS TO SHOW THAT OVER LIPOVAC BORDER ISN'T NEVER, FOR EXAMPLE AREN'T IN OSIJEK INDICATIONS TO BELGRADE, LIKE THE PAST. WHY THIS CRAZY ATTITUDE TO CANCEL THE PAST? YOU CAN CONFIRM MY IMPRESSION OR I BELIEVE ONLY A MISTAKES OPINION? PROBABILY I'M TOO CURIOUS BUT THIS SITUATION IS VERY INCOMPRENSIBLE.

Guest		04-Feb-2006 10:13
arrrgh shut up real, the reason we lost our territories to you is because the West forced us with sanctions and bombing, they even gave you weapons and tactics. Our military logic and technology has always been superior. Yes Vlad you are right, Serbs and Croats look the same, we are brothers but they violated that brotherhood when they were brainwashed from the West and started trouble which eventually led to the Yugoslavian split. They are doing better than us now bcoz they got so so much investment from the West do develop their tourism economy because in all fairness the Croatian seaside is the most beautiful on Earth. But all that money benefits the American and German companies that invested, as well as benefiting the Croats. It is win win for them, the only danger is that their breathtaking towns such as Split and Dubrovnik can be spoiled by overcrowdedness. That is also the reason Montenegro want to Split from the Serbs because the West has promiced them large sums of investment to develop their tourist infrastructure similarly to the Croats. They too have picturesque seaside towns such as Kotor, Budva etc. However, I doubt Montenegro will survive from the Serbs because ALL of their income is from Serbian tourists. If they become independent, they will collapse. They have nothing to offer, water only runs half of the day like Africa! The people are rude and beaches are crowded and facilities are extremely poor comparing to Croatia and Greece. I hope that has answered your question.

Vlad		04-Feb-2006 09:56
BUT YOU AND CROATIANS, DIFFERENT THAN ALBANIANS ARE BROTHERS, BECAUSE ARE SLAVICS AND SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGES. I'M NOT ABLE TO SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SERB AND A CROATIAN IF I SEE TWO OF THWM TOGETHER. LAST SUMMER WHEN I CROSSED EX JUGOSLAVIA TO GO TO MEET A MY AUSTRIAN FRIEND IN INNSBRUCK, I SAW IN CROATIA MANY SERBS WHO CROSSED SLAVONIA AND BARANIA TO GO PROBABILY FOR HOLIDAY IN WEST. BUT WHEN I GO BACK, NEAR SLAVONSKI BROD I ASKED TO A GIRL THE WAY FOR BELGRAD BUT SHE REFUSE TO GIVE ME INFORMATION AND HIS FRIEND SPEAK IN HIS LANGUAGE SOMETHING ABOUT TO DON'T SPEAK WITH ME ABOUT SERBIA. IN MY OPINION, THIS IS A WAR BETWEEN BROTHERS. WHAT ABOUT YOUR RELATIONS WITH SLOVENIAN?

real		04-Feb-2006 02:08
stefan the pretending big serb if you are right why is half of bosnia now belonging to the muslim swines and why do albanches own kosovo now you are so full of shit>so many serbs now living all over the world because of stupid radicals like you.if the serbs want to take back kosovo all the brothers will come and burn them into dust.

Alex Belgrade		03-Feb-2006 18:26
Albanians, read and weep!!! Serbia and Montenegro Market of the Month U.S. Commercial Service February 03, 2006 The US Department of Commerce International Trade Administration (ITA) has selected Serbia and Montenegro as the Market of the Month for January 2006. This is a result of joint effort made by American Embassy Belgrade Commercial Section and Serbian Export and Investment Agency (SIEPA). The Market of the Month feature is designed to promote the upcoming markets through Department of Commerce network of 120 local and 150 international offices. The information about Serbia and Montenegro will also be forwarded to a database of over 14,000 companies. With a population of 8.5 million people, the SCG market is among the largest in Southeastern Europe (SEE), second only to Romania. Export-oriented companies have access to the SEE Free Trade Area market of 55 million people, while Serbia is the only country outside of the Commonwealth of Independent States that has a free trade agreement with Russia. Since 2001 Serbia-Montenegro has undertaken aggressive reforms to reassert itself as a regional center. GDP per capita has doubled to almost USD 3,000, ahead of most countries in the region. Furthermore, the local economy reached a record growth rate of 9.3 % in 2004 and is expected to maintain growth rates of around 6% in the coming years. Foreign direct investment has jumped from virtually zero in 2000 to USD 4.5 billion in 2005, and US companies invested over USD 1.3 billion over the past five years, making the US the largest investor nation in the country. The political risk attached to doing business in Serbia-Montenegro is still high compared to other countries in Central Europe, but it is “decreasing daily.” This is another important step in strengthening of commercial ties between the U.S. and Serbia and Montenegro in it is expected to attract more U.S. companies to do business in this country. http://news.serbianunity.net/bydate/2006/February_03/25.html

Guest		03-Feb-2006 17:44
If I had to choose between pigs and albanians, I would choose pigs, sometimes they are cute.. The only thing that evolved in albania is donkey rides, I sure think that they could give us all a lesson!

Guest		03-Feb-2006 17:33
red_and_black_eagle_on_my_chest You piece of shit, you fucking puny cunt, who do you think you are to call the Thirs Army in Europe weak? If Serb soldiers are weak, what the hell does that make your piece of shit non-existant military. You fucking pussy, go on, I dare you to try and take over Europe, hhahahahaha. You are a funny cunt, we squashed all of Albanian Kosovars in 48 hours 1.5 million of you pussy shiptar scum out!! I hate Albanians undescribably. You uneducated cunt go and shower under a cow when it urinates.

Guest		03-Feb-2006 17:13
Shut up you Croat, you are lucky the Serbs could have easily made a golfcourse of Croatia after we conquered it and destroyed your pathetic seperatists in a matter of days. I hope your prices continue to rise in Dubrovnik and Split etc. and all the Westerners will fuck off. You cowards go and suck American balls.

bomb them off this world		03-Feb-2006 10:36
well we all hope america has woke up to you moslim scum now.that means you only have to suck croatian cocks till they run out of jucie and shoot you .you cunts breed like rabbits and will killed like them..and fuck MeLossABit if you start something you should finish it>>>>

Alex Belgrade		03-Feb-2006 07:15
COMMUNISM IN ALBANIA Under Hoxha, Albania quickly severed ties with the outside world. The paranoid dictator then embarked on a massive campaign to protect his country from foreign invasion, constructing over 700.000 concrete bunkers... Albania is predominantly Muslim... Religion was banned under communism and in 1968 almost all churches and mosques were destroyed across Albania. Up to the 1980s and beyond, even basic items like chocolate, bread and milk were severly rationed and people had little choice over what to wear and where to live... http://www.oxfam.org.uk/what_we_do/where_we_work/albania/albania_in_focus/about/communism.htm

Alex Belgrade		03-Feb-2006 07:03
ALBANIA, KLA and OSAMA BIN LADEN In 1998, State Department officials listed the Kosovo Liberation Army as a terrorist organization. The KLA was labeled as the "Vietcong of the Balkans," by Mark Almond, chairman of the British Helsinki Human Rights Group (BHHRG) in the British weekly Spectator of 3 April 1999. Marcia Christoff Kurop in The Wall Street Journal on 1 Nov. 2005, titled, "Al Qaeda's Balkan Links," reported that "For the past 10 years, the most senior leaders of al Qaeda have visited the Balkans, including bin Laden himself on three occasions between 1994 and 1996." Chris Hedges described the KLA's founders as "diehard Marxist-Leninists as well as descendants of the fascist military raised by the Italians in World War II," in a New York Times article of 28 March. See: "Crimes of the KLA, Who Will Pay?" ... In Germany, for example, the Turkish mafia has offered Albania a conduit and infrastructure for drug trafficking into Western Europe. Algerians and Moroccans provide the kosovars with the opportunity to ship small arms and refugees to various ports via Rotterdamn." http://www.citizensoldier.org/welcome28jun05.html

Alex Belgrade		03-Feb-2006 06:57
Hey you with the red- black eagle on your chest, Learn some English first, you Albanian scum. If it wasn't for Clinton we would have kicked your miserable asses. Our soldiers are not weak, of course we could not fight America. Albania is good for nothing. You have supported the Nazis and now there are ties of Albania to Osama Bin Laden. What's the matter? Truth hurts? The fact is you guys are morons. Always were, always will be. Good for nothing but drug smuggling, weapons smuggling, and human trafficking. Go spread your poverty and islam somewhere else. Go back to your Hoxha bunkers and ride your donkeys, you worthless scum.

red_and_black_eagle_on_my_chest		03-Feb-2006 04:09
Serbs Greek Losers or wimpy geeks shut the fuck up and listen up why dont you take my shit and give to Athins, belgrade. Im albanian and i respect albanian brothers in Kosovo Albanians are strong people in whatevere job the do thats why all contries where against us but now the know us who we are and thats why Bill Clinton helped us to Fuck Slapodan Mollosheshit and his weak soldries So who ever is agains albanians you have albanians every where in the world who dont you wanna come and tell us that you are a Serbian peice and shit an we will answer your head offffff so fuck you all who is agins albania

Guest		03-Feb-2006 01:37
Albania is one shit country, we should build a wall, like israelies did, to devide us from the worst "nation" in the whole world... I don't hate anyone, but albanians!

TIRANA		02-Feb-2006 23:41
I WILL KICK YOUR ASSES YOU DUMPHEADS.WATCH OUT BEFORE I OFFER YOU A FEW PUNCHES YOU JURKS.

Alex Belgrade		02-Feb-2006 22:12
Vlad, Just for the record, Tirana and me are not friends. I am just trying to have a civilized conversation. I think he seems like a person who can be reasonable and can be talked to. But we are not friends.

Alex Belgrade		02-Feb-2006 22:11
Vlad, Tirana called me a dumbass and provoked my response. As for that Croat Nazi song it means: "Bombs will fall on Belgrade". No comment there. Nazism is very much alive in Croatia today, just like in 1991 or 1941.

Vlad		02-Feb-2006 17:29
A CROATIAN BAND KNOWN AS USTASA DID A SONG "PAST CE BOMBA NA BEOGRAD". WHAT'S MEANING? CERTAINLY IS AN OFFENSIVE THING I THINK.

Vlad		02-Feb-2006 17:29
A CROATIAN BAND KNOWN AS USTASA DID A SONG "PAST CE BOMBA NA BEOGRAD". WHAT'S MEANING? CERTAINLY IS AN OFFENSIVE THING I THINK.

Guest		02-Feb-2006 17:20
"only three years ago (that was in 1991) it was against the law for a private citizen to own a car. In 1990, Albania had only 468 automobiles. Only a year ago (that was in 1993), it had only two traffic signals". AAAAAH HAHAHAHAHAHA, that is one of the funniest things I have ever seen. By the way everybody, I have just watched a wonderful film directed by Steven Speilburg called Munich, I recommend you all to see it (no plitical reason in relation to this forum, it's just a great movie). I am anticipating Tirana's reply. It will be interesting to see what he can come up with now that it is painstakingly obvious that his nation is the worst in nation and is of African standards.

Vlad		02-Feb-2006 14:08
GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY, I GO BACK HERE AFTER A SHORT PERIOD OF HOLIDAYS. MAY I KNOW WHY ALSO YOU ALEX NOW ARE ANGRY AGAINST TIRANA? I KNEW THAT YOU ARE FRIENDS BEFORE AND ONLY STEFAN WAS ANGRY AGAINST HIM. WHAT'S HAPPENED? WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT HAPPEN NOW AFTER RUGOVA'S DEATH? SEE YOU AS SOON.

Alex Belgrade		02-Feb-2006 06:58
How Yugoslavia helped Albania after WW 2 Yugoslav advisers poured into Albania's government offices and its army headquarters. Tiranë was desperate for outside aid, and about 20,000 tons of Yugoslav grain helped stave off famine. Albania also received US$26.3 million from the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration immediately after the war but had to rely on Yugoslavia for investment and development aid. http://www.answers.com/topic/communist-and-post-communist-albania

Alex Belgrade		02-Feb-2006 06:50
Communism in Albania (photo slideshow) http://www.oxfam.org.uk/what_we_do/where_we_work/albania/albania_in_focus/about/communism.htm

Alex Belgrade		02-Feb-2006 06:43
Dear Stefan, you fogot to quote the best part about Albania. This is from that article about Albania, written in 1994. "only three years ago (that was in 1991) it was against the law for a private citizen to own a car. In 1990, Albania had only 468 automobiles. Only a year ago (that was in 1993), it had only two traffic signals". HA HA HA

Guest		01-Feb-2006 17:57
"Albania is also vilified in the international media as a centre for trafficking of drugs and people. And as a centre for corruption." Come on....this is too easy. And you think you can surpass Greece? Yes yes Shiptar scum keep on dreaming.

Guest		01-Feb-2006 17:53
I have more..... "However, Albania remains desperately poor: An Albanian minister receives $200 a month, the average salary is less than $85, and in a population of 3.5 million, a stunning 80 percent are unemployed." http://muslimsonline.com/babri/halsell4.htm Read what your Shiptar President has said on that website and tell me Albanians don't back independent Kosovo!

Alex Belgrade		01-Feb-2006 17:21
Tirana, Whatever you may think or feel, I don't get my kicks out of insulting you or anyone else, just for the sake of insulting. Stefan seems to enjoy throwing in a couple of bad words, just for the fun of it, but I don't. My reaction was simply a reaction to your selection of words. If anything, I have been trying to be reasonable and tolerant here on most of my posts. As for the Greeks, I think you are under the wrong impression that nobody in the Western world gives anything about Greece. It doesn't really matter, does it. Greece is still doing better than Albania. If that will make you feel better, or will cure some of your complexes, then think about it like you do. But, the fact is, Greece is in the EU, it is a host of the Olympics, it is home to an ancient civilization, it has "fathered" geometry, philosophy, democracy etc. I don't care how the godless West - London, Berlin, Washington view the Greeks. I am sure that the Greeks do not have much love for the West, either. Let me know if Albania gets to host the Olympics, or anything else, for that matter. It is the Albanians who have nothing to discuss except independence of Kosovo. It is Serbia which is trying to explore different options, not just the maximalist option. I have given you plenty of articles to think about and I have hundreds more. The point is - the West has supported islamists in Bosnia and Kosovo, at the expense of Serbs. Well, one day the West will realise what a HUGE mistake it had made. It should have supported Christian Serbs. Instead, in order to please the oil-exporting countries, it decided to make a pact with the islamists. The very same islamists who then attacked New York, Washington DC, Madrid and London, and the same islamists who created all the chaos across France. And I am afraid we will be expecting a lot more of that. There are many ties that connect the KLA to Bin Laden. That also goes for the Bosnian Muslims. So, there.

Guest		01-Feb-2006 16:57
For Tirana: "Albania is still desperately poor and almost totally relies on money from abroad to keep going." http://www.24-7prayer.com/ow/country.php?country_id=110 Enjoy, Happy New Year Muslim Cunt.

Tirana		01-Feb-2006 10:22
Alex, wow what a reaction! Really impressed! Dumbhead was a word that i used just like that, without meaning to insult you, anyway i'm glad you finally showed yourself and maybe you'll discuss more freely from now on. I don't want you act nicely, if deep down in you you want to insult me. Go on if that will get you satisfied. You still don't get the point of my view. If i came here is to clarify, discuss opinions that we people have about each other and if possibly to change these opinions. While all of you seem to be fixed at some points or opinions that you don't want to change. So if that's true, where's the point for the discussion? Again, the matter about Greece can be resumed in a line : Greek people can't show off to other europeans just like they do with albanians or other people in the balkans, whereas a french, a british, a german (for example) does that without any problem. That was the point that i tried to defend from the begining. If you don't agree with that, you don't accept reality. I don't hate people without any reason, so neither do i hate greek, nor serbs in general. I hate only people who hate us, and believe me if i hate some of the things that greek do, there surely must be some strong reason about that (if you wanna know, i'm partly greek because my grandmother was greek. She passed the border after WW2 and then she couldn't get back because the comunist party closed the borders. I still have family there and i go visit them occasionnally, but i can't close my eyes about what some of the greek people do!) Feel free to believe that or not because i can't proove it here, but understand that i don't need to tell lies here, and i haven't done so since i firstly came here. Stefan, i wasn't sure about the fact that greek people needed visas to go in th UK for the simple reason that a greek friend of mine told me that last year (UK has not ratified the Schengen treaties). Well anyway maybe he wasn't so well informed about this matter, i don't know, that's what he told me at least.

Guest		28-Jan-2006 18:28
Hopefully now the terrorists will make more and more attacks on all Western World so they can see how it feels to be in fear. Also it will be so great and ironic how the people they are trying to help turn against them and bomb them HAHAHAHA, I am just waiting for more strikes.

Alex Belgrade		28-Jan-2006 08:00
Italian journalist Oriana Fallaci warns in her recent book, "The Rage and the Pride," of an "Islamic Reverse Crusade" that aims to conquer the West. Europe is no longer Europe, she says, "It is a province of Islam" that hosts "almost 16 million Muslim immigrants and teems with mullahs, imams, mosques, burqas, chadors. It lodges thousands of Islamic terrorists whom governments don't know how to identify and control." Entire article can be found at: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32935

Alex Belgrade		28-Jan-2006 07:48
Meet Florin Krasniqi, one of the driving forces behind Kosovo's fight for independence. He lives in Brooklyn, N.Y., where he runs a successful roofing company... this charming businessman raised $30 million during the Kosovo War, purchased weapons across the USA, and shipped them legally to Albania to be smuggled into Kosovo. [Note: Legally? In a TV interview Krasniqi admitted that the weapons were shipped as "hunting weapons for a safari to Africa." Janes Intelligence Review POINTER of November 1995 writes of The Albanian cartel: filling the crime void. "During the past two years, more and more Albanians have been arrested in the USA - especially across the Northeast - and law enforcement officials believe they are linked to an increasingly well-organized crime presence... So Tirana, SCREW YOU. The entire article can be found at: http://www.citizensoldier.org/welcome28jun05.html

Alex Belgrade		28-Jan-2006 07:41
The National Review Online of March 19, 2004 writes, "A pogrom started in Europe on Wednesday. A U.N. official is quoted as saying that Kristallnacht is under way in Kosovo. Serbs are being murdered and their 800 year old churches are aflame. Much of the Christian heritage in Kosovo and Metohija is on fire and could be lost forever." In fact, more churches have been destroyed since NATO's Kosovo Force entered Kosovo than under 400 years of occupation by the Ottoman Turks. Deutsche Welle wrote on Nov. 15, 2004: "In Kosovo, human trafficking paid for much of the fighting. For the first time this year ... the world wide profits from human trafficking will exceed those of the drug trade." The Washington Times' own Jerry Seper reported as early as 1999, "Some members of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), which has financed its war efforts through the sale of heroin, were trained in terrorist camps run by international fugitive Osama bin Laden." In November 2001, a Wall Street Journal Europe article said that in the past 10 years, al Qaeda's most senior leaders visited the Balkans. Osama bin Laden himself did three times between 1994 and 1996. While the Clinton administration underwrote the Bosnian Muslim government of Alija Izetbegovic, his embassy in Vienna gave bin Laden a passport in 1992. Enough said. The entire article can be found at: http://www.citizensoldier.org/clintonkosovofailures.html

Alex Belgrade		28-Jan-2006 07:14
How Islam is infiltrating itself in Greece http://www.e-grammes.gr/2001/09/islamists_en.htm How Islam is infiltrating itself in the West (America, Canada, Western Europe) http://www.citizensoldier.org/westlost.html Make sure you check out the other articles on the page.

Guest		27-Jan-2006 19:43
Tirana, What are you talking about? I am currently in London and so so so many people from here save up for an entire year to go on a two week holiday to GREECE. They all go to Greece for its superior history, wonderful weather, beaches, tourist infrastuctura, charming towns, amazing islands, great nightlife and beautiful girls. Everyone who I have ever come across who has been to Greece has had nothing but good comments about it. Greece is a very well respected country and even imbecils here know for what Greece has given to the World. They educated mathematics to the Earth. Every single time somebody on the planet must find the area of a circle they all must press the Pie button, Greece has its mark on every scientific calculator in the World. Children in schools over the globe must learn the name of Pythagoras for the simplest theory of Asquared + Bsquared = Csquared Greeks do not need a visa to travel to England are you stupid? What do you think the European Union is? Albanians are hated Worldwide and are well known for being the scums of Europe. I recall Robert De Niro saying in one of his films to his Friend who was dressed awfully: "You look like an Albanian goatherder". HAHAHAHAHA, how I laughed when I saw that. And another thing. Albania will never develop past any other country in the Balkans. It will always remain the shithole capital of Europa. Enjoy that fact Shiptar scumbag.

GREEK MOTZIS		27-Jan-2006 15:41
RUGOVA was the first.Other mother fucker Albanians will follow!Shithead tirana before going to die learn that Serbia will first be integrated in EU and then your shit country will follow for reasons that have to do with visas and border safety.Till then i wish to u and to your patriots and beloved ones DEATH. LONG LIVE GREECE AND SERBIA

Alex Belgrade		27-Jan-2006 14:07
Tirana, The only dumbhead here is you. If you really want to believe that Albania is doing better than Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria or that in a few years it will do better than Greece, well, that's your right, but it doesn't make it the truth. I am sure Greeks are well received abroad, much better than Albanians. Perhaps Italians and Greeks have something against each other - I don't know. Perhaps it's because both Italy and Greece had ancient civilizations, maybe there is a certain jealousy, I don't know. But it is not not true that Greece is being treated in any way wrongly. Perhaps by certain individuals, but not by goverments. Greece is a respected member of the international community, in any case much more respected than Albania. We all have prejudices against other nations, cultures, religions. Most foreigners have one image of Serbia in their head (thanks to CNN and the like). But, once they visit Serbia, and once they leave, their image of Serbia is much better and they realise that they have been fed a lot of bullshit anyways. In a similar way, most Serbs have prejudices against Albanians. I have been to Greece. I have not been to Albania. Greeks are warm, passionate and friendly people who carry that special Balkan spirit even though they are in the EU. They are very true to their religion, I loved the fact that they have managed to preserve their spirituality. I really had THE BEST time over there. I could say I was from Serbia and nobody would give me any bullshit. I felt like at home, among friends, among the only TRUE friends that Serbia has. France, England and the US have sold us out (betrayed us in many ways), Russia as well, so the only true country we can always rely on is Greece. Speak what you want, think what you want. Spit on everybody. ALBANIA RULEZ! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Oh please! P.S. I must hand it to you, Tirana. You are a very brave boy coming here, you are the only Albanian here and nobody likes you. At least I tried communicating with you and you called me a dumbhead. Well, screw you! No more Mister Nice Guy from now on. I also do martial arts and I feel like kicking your butt right now. P.P.S. Kosovo's president Rugova was buried today without religious ceremony, along with KLA terrorists whom the Kosovo Albanians call "liberators". By the treatment Rugova received, one would think that he was met by the 72 Virgins? LOL

Tirana		27-Jan-2006 10:00
Alex, you still don't get my point. I'm not talking about Albania, cause i know that if western european countries don't give a shit about Greece, they do less about Albania. And you keep telling me that. I know that, i didn't say the contrary. OK? Now, for sure that there are people who love Greece, and there are much more chances that people you meet in Greece like Greece, because they wouldn't have gone there. The point is, a Greek who goes let's say, Italy and says "oh i'm greek" - people say " oh, greek ok" and they don't care about him or act as they are superior. Thing that doesn't happen if it's, let's say an american who goes to Italy. I've seen this situation many times in Milan or Paris. I know this is not a good argument, but motzis can tell us something...Motzis do you need visas to go in the UK as a tourist? If yes, Alex, you'll get the answer. Again, i'm not talking about Albania. We even need visas to go frm Tirana to any southern Albania city (joking of course). So Alex don't make me say things that i didn't. Concerning the greek-serbian coalition in the EU, i suppose that you will have to wait a little bit. But anyway, even if Serbia joins the EU before us, i don't think that this coalition would be of any big importance (frankly speaking). And Alex the fact for a country to join the EU doesn't mean that it must probably be more developped than another one who's not. The fact is that the aid to Greece is not as important as it used to be, and greek companies are suffering the competition of other european companies. So i don't see why Albania can't develop more quickly than Greece right now. (check the latest GDP progress and stop being a dumbhead).

Guest		26-Jan-2006 18:10
As I have been saying from the very start, Albanians are the scum of the Earth, they are slimy creatures who are good at nothing but crime, fighting old ladys in gangs and stealing land and money that is not theirs. If only Serbia and Greece could create a union together and use its influence in the EU to condemn Albania and never allow them in the EU to pregress. HAHAHA!!

motzis		26-Jan-2006 18:04
My friend Alex we should form an ally against the bastards Albanians who wish to occupy and privatizate our lands.Death to Albanians.A Greek who hates Albanians and who wishes to see them dying

Alex Belgrade		26-Jan-2006 15:59
Dear Greek friends, When I mentioned all the regions where Albanians are, or will be, creating trouble, of course I meant to say FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA. Cheers.

Alex Belgrade		26-Jan-2006 15:54
Tirana. Let me quote you: "people in western europe don't really give a shit about Greece". You see, I don't think that is true. I have seen many foreigners in Greece, and I know that most West Europeans have a CD or tape of Greek music. Greece is a member of the EU and has equal rights as all other members of the EU. The fact that they got to host the Olympics and that they won the Eurovision song context tells you that the world does care about Greece. In any case, let me ask you: does the world care about Albania at all? Does anyone in Western Europe get a desire to travel to Albania? When they hear the word Greece they think of the sun, Socrates, the Olympics, Pythagora's theorem, sirtaki, baklava. ETC. When the people in Western Europe hear the word Albania, they think of Communism, donkeys, islam, drugs, poverty and stolen cars. I mean Albania until recently used to be the most poor and most backward place in Europe. Probably still is. You say that Greece is doing better than Albania FOR NOW. Ha ha. Greece will always be better than Albania. They are in the EU, you guys are not. I know you love your country but please stop telling us that Albania is great. Like I said, give us the worldly achievements of Albania. Let us hear some of Albanian benefits to the world. Tirana, you have to do better than this to convince me. Your arguments stink. That's because you got none. P.S. Of course murder is wrong but football fans are mostly hooligans. I remember some British football fans killing a Turkish football fan etc. The fact is, Albanians are asking for whatever they can get. In Kosovo, Southern Serbia, Macedonia... Tomorrow they will make trouble in Montenegro and maybe in Greece. That's what's going to happen. We all know that Albanian mafia and drug money buys a lot of influence in Washington.

Alex Belgrade		26-Jan-2006 15:32
Ivo, I think it's "Belgrader"? What do you guys think - "Belgradian" or "Belgrader"? Also check out Stefan Serb's and Vlado Marinkovic's Belgrade gallery, also on pbase.com

ivo		26-Jan-2006 14:03
Sir, as an x-Belgrade citizen (Belgradian?) I thank You for the nice images.

ivo		26-Jan-2006 13:57
Sir, as an x-Belgrade citizen (Belgradian?) I thank You for the nice images.

Tirana		26-Jan-2006 12:03
Hahaha...calm down all of you, you misunderstood the majority of the things that i said. Stefan i didn't say that i was gonna kill you with a gun... Lol dickhead, i just tried to say to you not to show off because you do martial arts, cause nowadays physical strength is not as important as it used to be. There is one point that makes me laugh more than others. Firstly u say that u use martial arts to defend yourself and just two days before you "invited" me in order to fight with you. You tried to defend yourself by that too? Hahaha...so funny. Secondly do you really think that i'm scared of you because i don't give you any information about me? Well if you have noticed i haven't given that information to no one of you, and this doesn't mean that i'm scared. I just don't know you and i don't want you to know me. That's all! I can live with that and i hope that you could live with it too. Alex, from all the people here only you and Vlad seem to be intelligent cause you're ready for discussion and sometimes you even admit things that you don't want to, but that are logical and necessary for the peace in the region. Anyway, the things that i said about Greece are true and it's just you who can't accept them. We're not talking here about history, but only about the actual situation. It is true that people in western europe don't really give a shit about Greece. They think they are superior to them economically, intellectually etc etc. Do you agree with this one? Secondly, don't defend Greece for matters that you don't know. If you remember, in the beginning i was sincere and i admitted that i didn't know too much about the relations about you and Albanians of Kosovo. So why do you pretend to know more about the relations that we have with greeks? All what you have heard till now are stories that came only from one party and you haven't listened to the albanian version. Do you really think that what you know reflects reality? Also, if you read more carrefully i didn't say that Albania was better than Greece. It's not true right now. But do you agree that if we are in a worse position financiary justifies that Greek treat us as animals? "Animal" is the word used by motzis by the way. Don't give me an answer as a Serb because your opinion would have not been objective, but give me an answer as a man to a man. Finally, even if albanians burned the greek flag in Greece, do you really think that this would have justified the killing of a man? If yes, why all the biggest european newspapers condamned what happenned there and fooled around with Greece? I'm gonna tell you something that probably you didn't know. In the south of Albania there are some small towns where greek minorities live. Well after the local elections of 2003 many of them went down to the streets with the Greek flag, and burnt the Albanian one. Was anybody killed? No because police was there and protected them (surely some of them were condamned in justice, but none of them were killed). So there is a question that comes into my head, why the hell the greek police didn't do the same thing? So Alex, if you asked me not to dare to talk bad about Greece, i ask you not to dare to defend causes that you don't know! It's OK for the coffee, maybe one day, who knows... Motzis, i won't answer to you firstly for the sake of the discussion and secondly that here's not the place (webpage about Belgrade). I just want to make a small comment about the things other than the insults. I know that not all Albanians act properly there, but me too i hope that people like me would die, so that you would have to cope only with criminals and uninstructed albanians. ;) Cheers mate

motzis		25-Jan-2006 20:32
u mother fucker tirana i wish i would have the honor to decapitate u and play football with your shit-head.what the fuck r u taiking about?we killed one filthy -animal-albanian because u were burning our flags and u were insulting our symbols.one greek killed an animal because he was trying to defend himself.u liar go die.u never show respect to us and u know very well that we helped u when the italians were kicking u out from their country.we offered u food,accomodation,work and instead of appreciating it u started killing,rape,robbery.ONLY DEATH DESERVES 2 U FILTHY ALBANIANS AND THAT'S WHAT U WILL GET.WE LOVE OUR BROTHERS FROM SERBIA WHO KNOW U VERY WELL.U STOLLEN THEIR HOLY LAND YOU SHITHEADS.GO DIE ALBANIANS

Alex Belgrade		25-Jan-2006 20:02
O, Lord Sweet Jesus! Here we go again. Tirana, You say a majority of Albanians in Albania do not dream of a Greater Albania. But, they certainly dream about that in Kosovo. Perhaps you guys should tell your brothers in Kosovo to stop dreaming of a Greater Albania, it would make the whole Balkans safer. Don't you even dare go into the topics of Bosnia, Croatia... Some Serbs have committed crimes and so have some Croats, Bosnian Muslims and, yes, Albanians in Kosovo. In a civil war, especially in the Balkans, every side commits crimes. That's nothing new. But, ONLY Serbia was punished to a degree that is not normal. Everyone else got rewarded. Only Serbs were bad, horrible monsters, while the Bosnian Muslims and the Kosovo Albanians and Croatians were pretty little saints. NO WAY! As opposed to Stefan, I do not hate you. I could even talk with you over a cup of coffee. You seem like a guy who can be talked to. The hate row between you and Stefan Serb (and vice versa) sickens my stomach. For the benefit of everyone else, please stop. I mean - one guy says he is gonna beat the other with his martial arts skills, and the other says he'll just take a gun and get it over with. COME ON, GUYS, LET'S GET SERIOUS. But in case you do decide to have your little rendez-vous, please let me know. Albania should ditch the Mafia and should restrain Albanians in Kosovo from extremism and terrorism. But, Albania is clearly not capable, or willing, to do so. Tirana, How can you say anything bad about Greece? In case you forgot, Greece is the craddle of European civilization, of democracy, philosophy and has contributed to mathematics, medicine, the Olympics etc. Greeks are a great people. You are an Albanian, for God's sake. Please enlighten us and share with us the wonderful, worldy achievements of Albania. I would LOVE to hear them and so would the rest of us. Don't you dare even TOUCH Greece. Albania is not in its league here. Serbia, Bulgaria and Romania could compete. But Albania should compete with Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and such. I mean, HA HA HA HA. An Albanian is insulting the Greeks. Thanks for making me laugh, Tirana.

Vlad		25-Jan-2006 18:54
FOR TIRANA: I DON'T HATE YOU AND I KNOE THAT NOT ALL ALBANIANS ARE THE SAME OF UCK. IN EVERYCASE I DON'T KNOW ALBANIA BECAUSE IT IS VERY FAR FROM HERE. BUT I WANT TO SAY YOU THAT IF AN EUROPEAN GOVERNAMENT WANTED TO BOMB SERBIA, THIS NOT MEANING THAT THE PEOPLE OF THAT COUNTRY WANT THE SAME. FOR EXAMPLE ROMANIAN GOVERNMENT OF 99 GAVE TO USA OUR MILITAR BASES FOR BOMBING SERBIA, BUT ROMANIAN PEOPLE WASN'T AGREE. KOSOVO IS A SERBIAN REGION, HISTORY SHOW THIS. UCK IS THE MOST DANGER FOR A PEACEFUL EUROPE. UCK IS ALSO AN ENEMY OF ALBANIA, BECAUSE IS SUPPORTED BY ALBANIAN MAPHIA WHO CERTAINLY DON'T HELP THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALBANIA.

Guest		25-Jan-2006 17:29
D.G. You know ... neither one of you are better than the other. So face that fact and smarten up. If I come to your country .. do i have to feel scared ... NO I shouldn't but probably I will.

Guest		25-Jan-2006 17:07
And when you beat Greece in the qualifying for World Cup 2006, Albanians were in the streets waving Albanian flags and burning Greek flags, that is why violence broke out. You burnt the flags of your host nation, only Shiptars would do such a disrespectful thing, but then again what do you expect from Albanian scum.

Guest		25-Jan-2006 16:46
You cunt, you expect me to go to a gang of Albanians and beat them in a street in front of everyone then get arrested? No prick. I do not think I am so strong because I do martial arts. I know how to defend myself if attacked because of them but I don't go round picking fights you dickhead. A bullet? You would shoot me, just try, give me your e-mail address and I will send my personal details and you can send one of your gangsters to shoot me, you pussy. You are calling me a coward? Did you not read what I wrote previously? What is your name and where are you located (city). You are the one hiding behind the name of a city which you are not in. Why should I get prosecuted for beating an Albanian? Get sent to prison for a Shiptar? NEVER.

Tirana		25-Jan-2006 14:32
Guest, Neither do i hate serbs, macedonians or greeks, nor do Albanians in general. It's just the action-reaction theory, people hate when they are hated. I don't need to see the film in order to see how destructive hate is. I'm already in my own film...Real life! Thanks anyway

Tirana		25-Jan-2006 14:07
Stefan, you're so funny :) :) :)...I'm not in London cause i would have met you with big pleasure. You know, you're an idiot cause you think you're strong cause you do martial arts. But you forget that nowadays a bullet would be enough for the karate kid. If you hate so much Albanians, you just said that there were many of them there. If you're so strong go on why haven't you done that before? What, you are afraid? Have you waited for me all this time? Hahaha piece of shit! Coward internet surfer!

Tirana		25-Jan-2006 13:49
What you guys don't understand is that the majority of the albanian population doesn't give a shit about a greater Albania. We already have enough problems now. Even the international community is against the creation of a bigger Albanian State so let's not confuse the two problems. What we are talking here about the independence or autonomy of Kosovo. Alex you clearly pointed out that the albanians were talking only about independence and you know that this is politically logical and correct, because in this moment we are considered as the victim, so we try to get the maximum benefit (you would have done the same thing). Let's not talk about who is carrying the stick, because if you do, there might be some good reason (let's not forget croatia, bosnia and kosovo). So maybe you should take on your responsibilities on that. Me too i agree that the best solution would be option 3 or 4. But according to option 4, you Serbs must stop talking about Serbia dealing with external affairs, because it should be the UNION. Don't forget that and try to use this word as much as possible because for kosovars it is very important, even though in fact it is Serbia who will have the biggest importance of the three, because of its population. Vlad don't forget that it wasn't only the USA who started the bombing, but the majority of the european countries like England, France, GErmany and Italy. So if you want to blame someone, blame all of them! Motzis, i tried to be polite, but you want me to show you the middle finger! ;) And i'm sorry to disappoint you, but albanians love their country. You got the evidence after the match Albania-Greece where there were hundreds of them in the streets with the Albanian flags. And you killed one of them. For what? For a football match that the newly european champions lost in Tirana. A good example from a country that just some months before organized the Olympic games. Bravo! In case you didn't know, the other european countries dont give a shit about Greece. You're for them, what Albania is for you. Ask Stefan who's in England to tell you about that. So go on insulting Albanians, because we are the only ones who are behind you (economically speaking, cause we all know how intelligent you are!). You're so far away from the Greeks that impressed all Europe with their intelligence...Unfortunately...

motzis		25-Jan-2006 00:22
vlad u speak wisely.DIRTY FILTHY ANIMALS ALBANIANS DEATH DESERVES 2 U

motzis		25-Jan-2006 00:22
vlad u speak wisely.DIRTY FILTHY ANIMALS ALBANIANS DEATH DESERVES 2 U

motzis		25-Jan-2006 00:21
vlad u speak wisely.DIRTY FILTHY ANIMALS ALBANIANS DEATH DESERVES 2 U

Vlad		25-Jan-2006 00:02
THE PRESENT SITUATION ABOUT KOSOVO IS A STEAL OF A LAND. WE THINK THAT AFTER COLD WAR THIS ISN'T POSSIBLE, BUT US INFLUENCE IN THE OLD CONTINENT IS STRONGER ALSO IN THESE YEARS. USA DON'T ACCEPT AN EUROPE WITH PEACE AND PROSPERITY AND THEREFORE WANT TO MAKE TENSIONS AND SMALL WAR. ALSO NOW THEY DON'T ACCEPT THAT THE TIME OF THEIR RULES ON OUR CONTINENTS MUST TO STOP, AND THEY WANT TO STOP THE PROCESS OF EUROPEAN INTEGRATION BY THIS INSTRUMENT OF TERROR. THEY KNOW THAT A STRONGER EUROPE ARE DANGEROUS FOR THEM. KOSOVO IS A LAND THAT IS STOLEN BY USA AND THEIR HAND IN BALKAN, UCK. DON'T SURRENDER! ONLY FIGHT UNTIL DEATH FOR DEFEND OUR LANDS! HOW AMERICANS WHO KILLED INDIANS CAN TO TEACH TO EUROPEANS THE VALOURS OF DEMOCRACY AND TOLLERANCE? AND BY THE WAY THEY WANT TURKEY IN EU BECAUSE TURKEY IS THE BETTER FRIEND OF USA AND ITS EU'S INTEGRATION PERMIT TOGETHER ENGLAND A GREAT INFLUENCE OF USA IN EUROPE.

motzis		24-Jan-2006 23:18
for me holy land is the land that belongs to a nation.kosovo is Serbian holy land.filthy albanians want our Greek land too.Their plan is to expand and to make Big Albania.Only under our cadavers dirty animals albanians.Your contaminated albanian blood will irrigate our holy lands u filthy monsters albanians.

Alex Belgrade		24-Jan-2006 23:03
"BEFORE THE RAIN" IS AN EXCELLENT MOVIE!!! AND STEFAN, LIKE I SAID, THE OPERA IS NOT OVER TILL THE FAT LADY SINGS. DON'T GIVE UP ON KOSOVO YET. IF WE PROLONG THE SOLUTION, MAYBE THE ALBANIANS WILL GET UPSET AND START ATTACKING KFOR AND UNMIK. MAYBE WE CAN GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT, LIKE A SERBIAN ENCLAVE OR SPECIAL STATUS FOR SERBS OR SOMETHING. AS FAR AS I KNOW, KOSOVO IS NOT INDEPENDENT YET. AND I AM NOT GONNA GIVE UP ON IT. AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU. WHEN WE LOST KOSOVO IN 1389 TO THE TURKS, WE NEVER GAVE UP ON IT, AND SEVERAL CENTURIES LATER WE GOT IT BACK. THE LAST THING YOU CAN LOSE IS HOPE AND FAITH. WHEN THE SERBS LOSE THAT, THEY ARE FINISHED.

Guest		24-Jan-2006 19:07
Tirana, I do not hate you, (and I am Orthodox) nor do I hate Serbs. I urge all parties, Serbs, Macedonians, Albanians, etc. to watch the movie Before the Rain by Milcho Manchevski...it shows how destructive hate is. This movie really changed the way I look at things. I pray for your people, Tirana, as well as the Serbian people.

Guest		24-Jan-2006 18:59
Motzis, I am not sure if by Holy Land you meant Kosovo, or Palestine...if you meant Palestine, it is the "evreos" as they say in Greek, or "yevrei" as they say in Serbian who have stolen it.

motzis		24-Jan-2006 18:25
you filthy shit albanian u r the only nation who is ashamed of your country.you thefts of holy land.WE HATE YOU. GREECE AND SERBIA GREAT ALLIANCE IF THERE WERE NO AMERICANS SERBS WOULD HAVE KILLED YOU ALL IN KOSOVO.GO DIE YOU DIRTY ALBANIANS

Guest		24-Jan-2006 18:18
Correction *OPTION 2 Full independence from Serbia.

Guest		24-Jan-2006 18:17
You know what will be the solution found? Option 1. I know it and you know it, the minute the Serbs surrendered Kosovo in 1999, we stopped having a say in the matter. It is up to the major players which we are no longer one of to decide the fate of our sacred land and no doubt they will steal it away from us.

Alex Belgrade		24-Jan-2006 17:12
Tirana, I offered you 3 solutions: 1. Full reintegration of Kosovo into Serbia just as Krajina was reintegrated into Croatia. That will not be favorable for Albanians. But, why did this scenario work in Croatia, and it can not work in Serbia? 2. Complete independence of Kosovo from Serbia is favorable for Albanians and not at all for Serbs. So we strike options 1 and 2 out as they are maximalist to either one of the sides. We need to find a compromise solution, so that both sides win something, as well as lose something. 3. That leaves option number 3 - divide Kosovo into 2 entities, with a possibility of a Serbian entity joining Serbia and the Albanian entity joining Albania. 4. Accept the current Serbian proposal - which, in the nutshell, means - Albanians manage their own affairs in Kosovo, but on the international scene Kosovo remains Serbian (no new borders, no 2 Albanian flags in the UN etc), or, 5. some sort of lose Union between Serbia, Montenegro, Kosovo and maybe Bosnia and Macedonia is formed. (Without Slovenia and Croatia). Kinda like a very loose "Yugoslavia" with some common bodies such as Parliament, Army, Diplomacy, free trade etc. Call it a "Balkan Union", like the European Union.

Alex Belgrade		24-Jan-2006 17:00
Stefan Serb, I'd personally like to see a fight between you and Tirana but can we discuss things here like normal human beings? I am not too crazy about Albanians, but let's just say FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION that Tirana boy seems to be a person who can be talked to. And so I am gonna answer Tirana. Okay. Let's forget the past. Kosovo is proven to be a Serbian land, but the reality now is that it is under foreign occupation, although, legally, is still a part of Serbia. The Republic of Serbian Krajina, which was mainly Serbian, was given back to the full control of Croatia. And Krajina had is territory, population, police, army, court, national symbols, etc - all the prerogatives of a state. And yet it was not kept as an autonomy within Croatia, nor was it given the chance to decide if it wants to join with Serbia. With the help of the US it was over run by Croats and fully reintegrated into the Croatian state. I am asking you, Tirana, why should one side get it all (Albanians) and the other side (Serbs) lose it all? I know Albanians want independence, just as Serbs want full control of the Province. And while Serbs are flexible, Albanians are not. What I suggest, and this is only a personal view, would be a division of Kosovo. First, creating an Albanian and Serbian entity, physically separated. The Serbian entity would include Gracanica, Bogorodica Ljeviska, Pec Patriarchate and places where Serbs still have some kind of majority (part of Mitrovica, Zvecan, Gnjilane, Zubin Potok etc). So, the Serbian entity would include the most holy churches and towns where Serbs live in considerable numbers. The Serbian entity could then be allowed to vote on joining Serbia, and the Albanian entity could vote on joining Albania. This is the solution that will bring lasting peace, and a solution that will allow both sides to gain something, as well as lose something. Tell me, do you honestly think Kosovo can function as a state? And do you honestly think that Albanians in Kosovo will not ask for a referendum in which they would be asked to join Albania? Maybe not now, but in 5 years? On the other hand, if Albanians accept the current Serbian proposal - more than autonomy and less than independence, that would mean: Albanians would get all rights as other minorities in Serbia. In Kosovo they would decide about their lives and business, and in Serbia they would get all the rights of other minorities, including the right to vote. That would make many Albanians present in the Serbian Parliament and Government. But, Albanians would not be able to have 2 seats in the UN and 2 flags in the UN. Administratively and technically, Kosovo would be under the sovereignity of Serbia (or the Union of Serbia and Montenegro). In case the Union survives, perhaps there could be some common bodies of Serbia, Montenegro and Kosovo, such as a joint Parliament, a Supreme Court, Diplomacy and Army. Basically the Albanians would get a chance to manage their own affairs in Kosovo, but on the international scene it would be part of Serbia (or the Union). In any case, we can't throw out a thousand years of Serbian history out the window, we must find a solution that will help Albanians manage their own affairs, and Serbs satisfied to some degree that the Province still belongs to them. So far I have not even heard any Albanian suggestion involving Kosovo. Nothing constructive, anyway. Just yapping INDEPENDENCE, INDEPENDENCE is not constructive. It's one sided and unfair. Serbia should be given the carrot as well, not just the stick. We've been receiving the stick for 15 years. It's enough.

Guest		24-Jan-2006 15:43
Tirana, You thibk you are funny but you are not, you are a prick, fuck you Shiptar cunt, go and die with your whole filthy fucking race. Even Albanians here in Britain are ashamed to admitt they are Shiptars, there is one car wash called Adriatic Car Wash named after the sea because you cowards are not to write Albanian car Wash because you filthy bastards will get no custmers hahahaha. Just like you are hiding behind the name Tirana. You're name is probably Artim or Quarararasrdfsbt.You primitive savages are all called like that. Where exactly are you now? Which country are you in and what is your name? About your comment to Alex about Tito, what did Tito care for Serbian land? He was a Croat. He split Serbia and he did not split off Srpska Krajina in Croatia as an autonomy. Everyone who died in our independence fight to destroy the Nazi Occupation Force were Serbs, Tito's guards and everyone who sacrificed were Serbs. When Earthquakes rocked Skopje and Budva, who payed for the rebuilding of the two towns? Serbs. Serbs are only good at suffering. Why couldn't the chief of the Partizan reistance be a Serb? Why a Croat? Because Serbs are stupid. They are only good to follow orders and run at bullets like crazy memn because they know they will die. Their eyes are blinded by nationalism and they cannot see below the surface. But Serbs are a proud people. We are a pure peoples with too much dignity, only if we recognize that dignity. You cunt, you will never undertsnad Serbs mentality, you just stick to your inferior filthy scum of the Earth Albanian mentality. I hope you are in London, because if you are go to: http://www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/guestbook And leave a private message stating your locationa nd I will break you apart you coward son-of-a-bitch piece of shit scumbag.

Tirana		24-Jan-2006 12:00
Alex, About the Illyrian thing, i didn't say that Albanians are the oldest population in the Balkans, but one of the oldest with Greeks. It is well known that Serbs came afterwards, so don't try to discuss on these points. You also showed off about some well known Serb personalities and i say good for you, but i don't see the point with the discussion that we had. So don't say that we have only Scanderbeg because you admitted earlier that you didn't know so many things about Albania. The name of Mother Theresa says anything to you? Well she was of macedonian nationality but of Albanian origin. And that's enough for this discussion. And finally yes, we still have donkeys but in villages just like in Serbia or any other country. Come to Albania and you will probably see far more better cars than in Serbia. It's another question how they got there :). Well i know that mafia is not good, but it permits development and that's why the government doesn't bother for sending them into prison. They are not like russian or italian mafia so they can put down much more easily. Don't complain and work harder because be sure that Albania will became more developed than Serbia if things continue to go on like this. Best regards, Alex. Miaw, What's the point with the photo you put here? Well if it interests you, it's not me in the picture. According to what you said i know the many greeks don't like us and for this reason we don't like you too. It's simple action-reaction formula. Anyways don't wish Albanian emigrants in Greece to come back to Albania, because if they are still there your governments surely has many advantages for them. Neither Greeks nor Serbs will do the jobs that Albanian do, so if you want Greece to go in regression, maybe depression, feel free to do it. But at least show some respect for people who are working for your country, and for you. Lee coleman, I was really surprised by the photos of New Zeland! It looks like the US man ;). Why the hell do you buy houses in Montenegro? Go home man, you won't be bored with our problems here. :) And least but not last some comments for my dear Stefan :), So you're a communist huh? :) I must admit that ideally speaking it's the best regime for the people, but it is not suitable to human kind, because we don't love everyone, we hate others and we're jealous too. But socialism would be more realistic. As for the datas that the UK web page shows the GDP for Albania is the same in another web page so 2400€ per capita. Serbia was at 2800€. Check it out in the French ministry..http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/pays-zones-geo_833/index.html Still mad today? :)

Tirana		24-Jan-2006 11:59
Hello guys, it's been a long time but you know stealing cars and trafficking people gets you bussy... :) At least all of you are satisfied because you just cant get that traffickers and drug dealers in Albania are not more than in Serbia. Anyways... Alex, i read your comments about Kosovo and i agree with you in some points, for example that Tito was far more liberal regarding Kosovo than Miloshevic. But still your arguments are illogical. Are you saying that only because he had a good relationship with Enver Hoxha he let Albanians come into Kosovo and thus accepting to give Kosovo one day to Albania? Comme on man you know it's nonsense. It's like Serbia to give a part of its territory to Greece because they have a good relationship. You said also that before 1913 Kosovo was part of the Turkish empire. I know that and i told you that as well. That's why Kosovo became part of SErbia because the Turks lost the war. But if Albania didn't become independant one year earlier in 1912 and if Turkey lost the war then Albania too would have become part of Serbia and Greece, but that doesn't mean that Albania as a country wouldn't exist because we would have tried to get our independance just as Kosovo. So what you told me has no interest. The question is to whom Kosovo belonged before that the Turks arrive? I think that nobody could tell exactly to whom and as an historian said only DNA tests would permit to find that answer even if that's quite impossible right now. I think that neither serbian historians nor the albanians should be trusted, because each of them modifies history as they like and you know that it's true. So what's more important now is to find a solution for Kosovo. Nowadays 90% of the population is Albanian. That's a fact that we can't hide. Now i will ask you and please think over before you give me the answer : What do you propose for Kosovo NOW? (remember that the goal is to set peace in the region) If you say that Kosovo should still remain a part of Serbia do you really think that this would bring peace in the region? I guess not, not now at least and you know that this can't be a solution. An independent Kosovo is it a good solution? In my opinion no, because in the slightest incident a conflict may rise and Serbs would have the sensation of being robbed, but if the International community makes pressure to both sides so that nothing happens, i think that this would be a better (not best) solution. Things are like this man, nowadays SErbs and Albanians can't live together anymore, not after all the killings that took place at least for some time, so it's better for anyone to separate. A strong autonomy is good solution? I don't know, it deppends on what a strong autonomy means. If Albanians of Kosovo had the same rights as Montenegrins maybe that will work, but in this case Serbs must not pretend the union to be called Serbia-Montenegro, but Serbia-Kosovo-Montenegro. I think that this can be a solution, but Serbs must understand that they can't use force anymore to get Kosovo, because we saw the results of this. So Alex i'm waiting forward to your answer.

Guest		23-Jan-2006 21:31
GDP per capita: US $2,300 Rubbish, my Cousin Milan is a policeman in Valjevo and he brings in US $10,000 from working as a waitor few Receptions as well. Look at Albania's GDP: GDP per head: US$ 2385 Higher than ours? Yes yes Lee your site is very accurate.

Alex Belgrade		23-Jan-2006 20:47
Dear Lee, I read it and they talk mostly about Kosovo. And those bulletins made by a government are usually much worse than it actually is. Trust me, no harm would come to you in Belgrade. I doubt that you would desire to travel to Kosovo. In many ways, Belgrade is much safer than London. And the West has "neglected" us, as you say. In WW 1, WW 2, and in the 1990s. We were your allies in both world wars, and yet we were bombed by the West in 1943 and 1944 and 1999.For whom? For the Muslims in Bosnia and Albanians in Kosovo, the same ones that danced with the Nazis. Dear Stefan, Communism has had 50 years to prove itself, in some cases 70. Give me a country that has, on the longterm, prospered. Communism has left economies in ruins,. high corruption, crime, unemployment. Not to mention the number of dead ut had left behind. In Cambodia 3 million dead out of the population of 6 million (Cmaire-Rouge). In USSR 30 million dead. In Yugoslavia who knows, but upto 200,000 Serbs dead, In Ukraine 8 million dead etc. Not to mention the paranoia of the dictators. In Romania, how many did Causesku kill? Etc. The very fact that Communism is against God and Church should be a warning to you. The fact that it had left tens of millions of people dead across the world should be a warning too. The fact is, Communism has been eternally defeated in 1989 in South-Eastern Europe and in 2000 in Serbia. It will never return again. At least not so soon. Talking about how the West is near collapse is something you only wish. It is true, they have increased suicide, crime, islamic threat etc but the West will stay as is for a long time. As far as I am concerned, I have nothing against free speech, a multi-party system and people freely electing their representatives. All Communist societies were dictatorial and one - party. That is not good. We cannot all think the same way. I want to be able to have political and economic freedom. In any case, talking about Communism is pointless. All it has left behind is a trail of blood, poverty and destruction. Thanks, but no thanks.

lee coleman		23-Jan-2006 19:39
please go to www.fco.gov.uk go into country profiles and select serbia montenegro . please read this completely , dont just pretend to read it and reply with insults . i suspect you will learn something about your own country . and i suspect you will learn something about the west that you consider has neglected you . i promise never to return to this forum if you read the facts and figures and still find cause to feel isolated and demonised .

Guest		23-Jan-2006 19:26
Alex, My friend and Serbian brother Communism is not dead, it is just dormant. You would understand if you see the deteriorating living conditions in London that democracy is slowly failing. One of the biggest cities in the World had soem of the narrowest streets, most streets even in the centre of the city only have two lanes with one of those lanes serving as a "bus only lane". Traffic is so big like you can't imagine, it takes up to 45 mins on an average day for me to travel from my apartment to work by car which is no more than 5 miles (8 km) away. That is proposterous. On top of that stress is on the increase with London having one of the highest suicide rates in the modern World. Prices of things like petrol are ever increasing, along with other uprising costs such as the Congestion Charge, Income Tax and for students to got to University the prices are through the roof. Racial tension is increasing as people are starting to realise they have given the inferior Niggers and Pakis too many rights and are slowly beginning to understand that it is the Whites' fault not the Muslims fault for the teroorist bomb on 07/07. Every five minutes there are suicide bombs in Iraq and people are starting to realise that Britain and America have not saved Iraq, but infact destroyed it, as well as they destroyed Afghanistan and almost destroyed Serbia. They all know that Britain has become so rich from destroying other countries and looting their things such as the crown jewels from India. You see my Serbian brother that the World wasn't ready for Communism in October 1917 and it is still not ready for it, only when the shit explodes will Communism fall into place. It is an idea for the future that has failed in the Past. The World is being destroyed by Capitalism and many of the Earth's balances are on the brink of destruction. I am a Communist and I try and do well in a society where I can see faults like peeling wallpaper.

Alex Belgrade		23-Jan-2006 07:25
Stefan Serb, I agree with you on some points. It is true - we have been sh... upon, we have been demonized to an extent that is irrational, but you forget to ask WHY? Because of Milosevic. If we had a pro-Western politician, like Havel, or the Solidarnost movement or Djindjic, we would have no sanctions, no bombs. Milosevic failed to present himself as democratic. Mate, communism is over. Just deal with it. Tito will not rise from his grave and Milosevic and Seselj will not return from the Hague. You talk about our great position under communism - true, Yugoslavia was by far the most advanced Eastern European country and we had a good international position but you did not mention the 200,000 Serbs who were victims of Tito, you did not mention the taking of land, forests, factories, etc, including the Church land in Kosovo, you did not mention the "Goli Otok", you did not mention the fact that only Serbia was divided into autonomous provinces, and no other Republic enjoyed the same "privilege". Most of the problems we face today are inherited from the Tito and Milosevic years. If Tito had not forbidden the Serbs to return to Kosovo after WW 2, if he had not divided Serbia and if he had not taken the land from the Church, Kosovo would today be in a much better position. You are young, forget communism. You are living in the West and yet you keep on telling us about communism. Just deal with it that we must be a democratic pro-European country. There is no escape from the EU. It has its faults but that is the trend. It also has its rewards, like travelling without visas. The only way to defuse the tensions in Vojvodina and Sandzak is to include the minorities into the Government, such as the case was with Jospeh Kasa and now Rasim Ljajic and Sulejman Ugljanin. We now have both Muslim fractions in some level of Government and their leaders are quiet. Milosevic tried to do everything your way. Radically. Your way did not work, as we can all see. We need wisdom, tolerance, democracy. We have been too scrutinized and we need to reduce the radicalism, because the West watches every move we make. We have to kiss the West's ass. Russia is doing that too. England, France, etc are all kissing the American asses. Simply deal with it. Communism is dead. Accept it. That is my friendly advice. As for Kosovo, I am going to try everything I can. If we lose it, at least I will know my conscience is clear and that I personally have tried everything. Like I said, there are some very well connected Americans who defend the truth - and the truth just happens to be the Serbian side of the story. Look for Bill Dorich, George Vojinovich, Stella Jatras (known as "Sparta"), Mary Mostert... all these people have written some wonderful stuff about the suffering of Serbs, just look them up on Google and read some of their articles. Very good stuff. And they are all well read not just in the US, but worldwide. My friend, we must not give up. I know your beliefs are shattered. Keep up the spirit.Aside from the difference in our political views, we must love Serbia and do the best we can to help Her. You understand. Serbia is above everything and everyone. "Srbija je vecna dok su joj deca verna", remember that.

Guest		22-Jan-2006 18:41
Alex, you are turning on me because of my views, I have never turned on you for your views and look where our great deomocracy is leading us? Compare Communist Serbia to Democratic Serbia and see which is better. Democracy has brought us nothing but graffiti and bullshit, Belgrade's crime level is rising and every time I am in Serbia the amount of graffiti is increasing, so is petty crime and gangsters run most of the clubs and underground network is very powerful. When we were under Communism we didn't answer to anyone, we had tourism and we were a great link between the two sides of the Iron Curtain. I am a Communist, but now I don't care for anyone except Serbs because nobody does care for us. I am glad you are trying to save Kosovo, but the simple truth is, all your work will come to nothing and do not be disappointed if we lose Kosovo despite all your work. We worked to make Serbia and Yugoslavija great, and now we have been shat on by everyone, no country on Earth has been fucked up like us. What do you mean Russia is fallen, mate, Russia is still as strong as ever, they just do not flex their muscles at weaker nations like America. I don't understand what you want? You want to keep Kosovo, the only way in 1999 was to send in our troops and destroy UCK Terrorist network as things were already getting out of hand. Then you demonstrated to leave? So what was the fucking point of goign to fight in the first place, and now you can see what great care the West is taking of Kosovo. We must destroy all other races in our autonomies such as Hungarians in Vojvodina before we lose that too. I am crazy, my views are radical but you must understand that being diplomatic does not work and it never has. We must show aggression in the face of adversity, and not to coward out like we have previously.

Alex Belgrade		22-Jan-2006 18:19
Stefan Serb, What the HELL is wrong with you?? You say Kosovo is gone. I say - the opera is not over until the fat lady sings. Kosovo is not gone, yet. By all international documents it is STILL a province of Serbia. We must do the best we can. I have met and gotten in touch with some wonderful Americans who take a pro-Serbian stand. Mary, Stella (Greek American), Bill, Roy etc. All have excellent articles and know senators and journalists. I write them, I give them facts, we exchange information on Kosovo, the suffering of Serbs, the Croatian Genocide etc... So, you see, I am trying to do something for Kosovo, Serbia etc. You are just sitting there and saying that Kosovo is lost. You said that we must: "secretly destroy all other races on our land before they attempt to occupy it". You really are crazy Stefan. I am totally against this idea. Besides, hardly anything can be kept secret in the 21st century.

Alex Belgrade		22-Jan-2006 18:10
Stefan Serb, Excuse me but I am proud to have demonstrated against Milosevic. We should have gotten rid of him in 1989 like the rest of the communist countries have. How DARE you call me a cunt for protesting. I wanted a normal life. I wanted peace, I wanted the lifting of sanctions, I wanted the bombings to end. I did NOT receive any foreign money like you socialists/radicals believe. I cried when Prime Minister Djindjic was killed. I did not agree with all his policies, but after all he was a Prime Minister and that was sad, that in the 21st century we kill our Prime Ministers. The West liked him - he was educated, young, energetic, and he was admired by the West and by many young people. As opposed to him, your fucking Slobo was fat, ugly and idiotic bastard who ruined his country. Don't blame the wars on Djindjic, don't blame the sanctions on Djindjic, don't blame the bombs on Djindjic. Don't you dare blame Djindjic for losing Kosovo. It was the Socialist/Radical coallition that gave up Kosovo in 1999. Or did you forget? I pitty you. You said WW 3 would have broken out. Are you crazy? First, if WW 3 had broken out, there would be no world left as it would have been a total nuclear war. That would not have beeen a victory for Serbia, but a defeat of the entire mankind. Secondly, WW 3 would NOT have broken out. Russia has fallen and it does everything to please the West. May I remind you that Russia did not stop the sanctions, the bombs. Remember how you socialists and radicals used to think Russian missiles were coming to Serbia etc. All that is BULLSHIT. If the Nato bombing had continued, Serbia would have been flattened to the ground and nobody would move an inch. Look at what Americans are now doing to Iraq, Afghanistan, tomorrow to Iran, or Syria or North Korea. And nobody will stop them. Serbia - previously demonized in the media, would have been brought back to the Dark Ages and no country in the world would help us. It would have been the end of Serbia, forever. Well, Stefan, maybe you are a fascist, or a communist, or both. But that doesn't stop you from being in the very West that you spit on.

Vlad		22-Jan-2006 17:56
POLITIC IS A BAD BUSINNESS, BUT IT DON'T MUST INFLUENCE THE DIGNITY OF A COUNTRY AND OF A PEOPLE. USA LIVE APART FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD AND BEFORE 11SEPTEMBER THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN TO LIVE FORE EVERE WITHOUT WAR IN THEIR HOUSE. BUT IF THEY WORKED FOR ALL THEIR HISTORY FOR MANIPULATE AND FOR RULES ON FOREIGN PEOPLES, CERTAINLY NOW THEY PAY THEIR INTERFERENCES. TO GO BACK ABOUT RUGOVA: I DON'T THINK THAT HE WAS A MODERATE AS ALL WEST MEDIA SAY. IF HE WAS A GANDHI HE ORGANIZATED PACIFIC MARCHES AND WORKER STRIKE, AS GANDHI DID IN INDIA AGAINST ENGLAND, BUT RUGOVA AMMITTED IN HIS ENTOURAGE ALSO TACHI AND ANOTHER MEMBERS OF UCK WHO DIFFERENT TO GANDHI OF INDIA ARE SUPPORTED BY ALBANIAN MAPHIA TO MASSACRE SERBS CIVILIANS, TO BEHEAD SERB TEENAGERS, TO DESTROY SERBIAN CHURCHES. AND AFTER THIS HOW CAN YOU ALEX TO CONSIDER RUGOVA A MODERATE? AND WHY IN THE TRIBUNAL OF AJA GO ONLY SERBS AND NOT ALBANIANS? IN MY OPINION YOU SERBS MUST TO SHOW IN KOSOVO ALSO A SIGNAL OF STRONG AND POWER, BECAUSE IF YOU REMAIN PASSIVE TO SEE KOSOVO GO AWAY YOU RISK TO LOSE ALSO VOJVODINA WHERE HUNGARIANS, WANT ALSO INDEPENDENCE WITH THEIR VMSZ. IF YOU SHOW THAT SERBIA DON'T PERMIT TO LEAVE KOSOVO, ALSO HUNGARIANS WILL BE QUITE. AND WHICH FUTUR CAN HAVE KOSOVO IN THE HANDS OF ALBANIAN MAPHIA, SALI BERISHA AND HASHIM TACHI? REMEMBER THAT ALSO IN PRESEVO, MEDVEDJA AND BUJANOVAC, ALBANIANS WANTO TO REALIZE AN ANOTHER INDEPENDENCE.

Guest		22-Jan-2006 12:21
They are both cunts, they are all cunts, on the day Djindjic died I celelebrated, for he was with the cunts that protested outside the Parliament, the same pricks that voted to go to Kosovo in the first place then voted to run away and give up our honour and pride. And Alex, if Serbia continued to fight NATO, and if as you say, Belgrade was carpet bombed, I am certain that many many countries would get involved with the possibility of a Third World War starting from that. To knock out a TV Station or kill a few hundred civilians is different from bombing hundreds of thousands of civilians. The World would react, believe me, Russia would get involved, along with China and NATO would fall apart. They wanted you to believe Belgrade would get carpet bombed to force you into submission, to scare you. And aparently it worked.

Alex Belgrade		21-Jan-2006 23:50
Rugova wanted an independent Kosovo just like Tachi, but Rugova was moderate and Tachi was not. It's business as usual for Serbia.

Guest		21-Jan-2006 21:06
Kneza is Prince

Guest		21-Jan-2006 16:45
What does the word "kneza" mean in Serbian...In Arabic "kneesa" means church...

Vlad		21-Jan-2006 12:04
RUGOVA IS DEATH. A MAN WHO PROCLAMED HIMSELF THE GANDHI OF THE BALKANS, PERMITED TO DESTROY SERBIAN ANCIENT MONASTERIES, A MAN WHO TALK ABOUT PEACE, HELPED UCK. HOW HISTORY CAN CONSIDER THIS PERSON?

Guest		21-Jan-2006 05:19
Dear Alex...I am very sad about what is happening to the Orthodox churches and monasteries in Kosovo. I am also concerned about the fate of Orthodox churches and monasteries in Northern Cyprus as well...but my BIGGEST concern is what is happening to Christian property in the cradle of Christianity: the Holy Land. A few years ago Jewish settlers occupied a Greek Orthodox hospice and if I am not mistaken they are still in possession of it. One reason the Greek Patriarch of Jerusalem Irineos was replaced by Theophilos, is because Irineos did very little to protest the takeover of Orthodox Christian property in East Jerusalem and the West Bank by Jews. The former Patriarch before Irineos, was Diodoros, whom the Israelis tear-gassed once as he protested the Judaization of Christian property in Jerusalem. The most alarming thing is that Christian Palestinians who are among the oldest Christians of the world are leaving in droves...there has been a mass exodus of Christian Palestinians from the land of Christ, and most of them are Orthodox. There are many parallels between what is happening in the Holy Land and Kosovo. Christianity is disappearing. The Israeli occupation has made life extremely difficult for the Christians of Palestine, and they are caught between a constant battle between Muslims and Jews on top of that. The city of Ramallah, in the West Bank, when founded 500 years ago, was 100 percent Christian. Even sixty years ago, it was still 90 percent Christian. Today Ramallah is nearly 80 percent Muslim, and soon that number will be 90 percent, and soon 100 percent. We must pray so that Christianity will be preserved in Kosovo, Northern Cyprus and Palestine, so that Orthodox churches do not become museums like Hagia Sophia and Hagia Irene in Constantinople. Once again, I harbor no resentment towards Muslims...they did not chose to become Muslims...they were born into the faith, and we must pray that they find the Truth in Our Savior, and that they will find the true path to salvation in Christ. I would love to baptize a few Muslims myself. Islam is not a pacifist religion like Christianity and is very militant mainly because it has a strictly Old Testament view on matters, and non-Muslims are seen in the same light that non-Israelites are in the Old Testament. The Jewish Talmud, which is a series of commentaries on the Old Testament is even worse, and Jews are considered superior to Gentiles (non-Jews) and special Chosen People. Islam considers Muslims to be superior to people of other religions. The difference of course, any one can become a Muslim regardless of race, but one must have a Jewish mother (of the Jewish race, descended from the Twelve Tribes of Jacob) in order to be Jewish. Both Judaism and Islam have violence in them. Only our Christian faith truly promotes love, peace, and harmony among men. Be thankful you all have the gift of being Christians, and especially Orthodox Christians.

Guest		20-Jan-2006 23:28
Why are you appealing, mate they won't listen, harden up, there is nothing we can do now, Kosovo is gone, do not appear soft because people will destroy you when they see your weaknesses. Fuck everyone except Serbs, that is it, end of. Nobody cares about Kosovo because it doesn't directly affect them. They may think oh that's wrong but they will not stand up and fight for it. We must look forward to a prosperous future and secretly destroy all other races on our land before they attempt to occupy it such as Vojvodina and Montenegro. We must crush all resistance and rally support for unity. Then we will prosper and increase our economic value, then one day when an American or British person hears the name Serbia they will not say, yes they are weak we destroyed them, they will say, they are nice people, you should go there for a holiday.

Alex Belgrade		20-Jan-2006 21:08
AN APPEAL TO SAVE KOSOVO People, Talk. Write. Tell the world the truth. Kosovo is the cradle of Serbian civilization and the home of the Serbian kingdom. It was the seat of the Serbian Orthodox Church for a thousand years until 1941 when the patriarchate was moved to Belgrade in fear of the impending war. Kosovo includes 1,300 Christian Orthodox monasteries and churches in an area the size of Los Angeles county. Some of them have been proclaimed by UNESCO as part of the world heritage. Today, 118 Serbian churches have been razed. Serbian population that was a majority just 65 years ago has been forcibly reduced to less than 3%. All traces of Serbian culture, history, religion and heritage are being wiped out. Street names, monuments, traces of the cyrrilic writing, even road signs and names of towns (Albanians are giving new names to towns that have never historically existed - not the old Ottoman Turkish names but completely new names. Orthodox graves are being flattened by bulldozers and Serbian factories, including the Trepca mine and the power facilities are being "privatized" by Albanian mafia. EUROPE, you must help preserve this ancient Christian land, otherwise islam will knock on your door soon. LONG LIVE OUR FRIENDS - GREECE!!! I LOVE YOU, I HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART FOR GREECE AND THE GREEK PEOPLE.

miaw		20-Jan-2006 15:18
http://www.shqiperia.com/foto/galeria/album23/Amfiteatri_Durres HAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU SMELLY DIRTY FILTHY ALBANIAN GO BACK TO YOUR SHIT COUNTRY.WE DON'T WANT U IN GREECE.U R STEALING LAND FROM US AS WELL AS FROM OUR FRIENDS SERBS BECAUSE U WANT TO EXPAND YOUR POOR AND MISERY NATION.U KNOW THAT U R ASHAMED OF IT

Guest		19-Jan-2006 22:54
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Guest		19-Jan-2006 22:54
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Guest		19-Jan-2006 22:14
Dear Vlad, we must all pray for peace. May the Lord's blessings be with you.

Alex Belgrade		19-Jan-2006 21:40
Dear Stefan, I am not a hardline. I carry my faith within me. I don't go to church every Sunday etc. It does not really matter if you go to Church, fast regularly and do everything the Church asks you to do. What really does matter is that you carry the Love of Christ in your heart and soul. B92 media attacks the Serbian Orthodox Church every single day. They promote tolerance and all that, but they are in fact full of hate towards anything that is Serbian. That is such a shame.

Vlad		19-Jan-2006 21:30
EUROPEAN INSTITUTIONS MUST UNDERSTAND THAT ISLAM ISN'T COMPATIBLE WITH EUROPE. ALL VALOURS OF EURPEAN PEOPLES ARE GENERATED BY CHRISTIANITY, AND THE CIVIL PROGRESS OF EUROPE IS GENERATED BY CHRISTIANITY. ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF WAR IN MY OPINION, A RELIGION WHO REMAIN IN MEDIEVAL ERA. IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES ALSO NOW MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDRENS ARE BEHEAD. THE "SHARYAH"LAW THAT THEY WANT TO EXPORT CAN DO MANY PROBLEMS. FOR EXAMPLE IN CHECHENIA, RUSSIAN SOLDIERS ARE BEHEAD AND ISLAMIC TERRORISTS ATTACK CIVIL PEOPLES AS IN KOSOVO BY UCK. BY THE WAY A POLITIC MAN FROM KOSOVO, PACOLLI SAID LAST DAY THAT ONLY FEW SERBIAN CHURCHES ARE DESTROYED, WHILE UCK BOMBS EVERY DAY SERBIAN MONASTERIES AND KILL. NOW I ASK ME, WHY USA AFTER 11 SEPTEMBER CONTINUE TO HELP THESE CRIMINALS AS UCK AND CHECHENIAN TERRORISTS? ONLY PEOPLES CAN DEFEAT ISLAM AGGRESSION IN EUROPE. WHERE POLITIC CAN'T ARRIVE, PEOPLES MUST ARRIVE.

Guest		19-Jan-2006 21:19
Dear Stefan Serb, You are like the rest of us...you are just human and we all have our own shortcomings. By the way, I am curious as to where your hostility towards Blacks comes from..although I remember when I was in Greece I would look contemptuously at the West Africans who would be peddling illegal CD's and various other items on the streets of Athens and Thessaloniki, and disliked their behavior (such as trying to sneak on the Thessaloniki-Athens train without paying for a ticket). But I realized my feelings were sinful and un-Christian. You know, one of the things about our Orthodox Church is that it is a CATHOLIC and Apostolic Church (CATHOLIC means universal), and then I remember that there are small pockets of Orthodox Christians in both Uganda and Kenya (started by two Ugandan bishops who embraced the Orthodox faith), and that we are all part of the human family. I also try to remind myself that if I came from a poverty-stricken country like theirs and were hungry and unemployed, who knows if I would not be tempted to sell illegal CD's and videotapes that were made in violation of copyright laws. It is a prejudice I have to fight, knowing that it is a sin to look at another human being that way. It is my struggle...let it be yours too, and ask the Lord to help you like I do. All men were created in His image, regardless of color...I understand that intellectually, but at times find myself feeling the opposite...that is where the Mystery of Confession comes in. Try to avail yourself of it, Stefan. It is a great sacrament that we Orthodox have. Are there any African immigrants in Serbia by the way? Now, I agree that militant Islam is something to watch out for, but not all Muslims are fanatics. As I said, I come from a Middle Eastern background. Over there, Christians and Muslims share a common language, common culture, common heritate, and a common history. When I was in Bethlehem, a Christian Palestinian told me, "We are ALL Palestinians, Muslim and Christian". It is very sad, that Croats, Serbs and Bosnians who are descended from the same Southern Slav ancestors, have created divisions based on religion and hate each other. Before the Balkan crisis, a Bosnian Muslim was more likely to marry a Serb or a Croat than an Albanian Muslim, since Serbs and Croats were fellow Slavs who spoke the same Serbo-Croatian language, whereas Albanians, in spite of the common Muslim religion were not Slavs, and their native language and their culture was totally different. You are all Europeans however, and must try to achieve peace in your little corner of the world. Really Stefan, when you hate others, you are not at peace with yourself. I have always tried to struggle with such feelings, and try to find peace with myself. I extend my love to you as a fellow Christian, especially a fellow Orthodox Christian. I hope you celebrated the Baptism of our Lord today, and brought home some "vodica" with you. Stefan, please pray for me too, and ask the Lord to help me with my struggles and inner conflict. Also, I hope you get a chance to visit the beautiful Hilandari monastery on the Holy Mountain. May love and peace reign on the Earth!

Guest		19-Jan-2006 19:04
I am an Orthodox Christian but not as hardline as you Alex. I have icons along the walls of my house in Ub and in my apartment in Belgrade, I celebrate my Slava (Sveti Luka) with my family every year. But I am not as hard line as you, I do not attend church every Sunday, I go as often as I can but it is just not possible in today's busy World. I do not however share all the beliefs of Christianity, I do infact believe that human beings evolved from apes, I think this is evident after examining Black People. I also believe that any time something great and unusual happens, I do not agree that the Church should immediately declare it is a miracle from God, as many times it is the case that later on a scientific explaination is found and it seems as though God did not help and he is not really there. The number of Christians is steadily decreasing and the number of Muslims is skyrocketing, this is a great danger for Europe and the Balkans is the only part left of Europe to destroy its strong religious beliefs. Everywhere else is already broken such as Western europe and even our brothers Russia. We must keep ours superior culture and valours sacred and never allow the Muslim infidels to enter our World!! SRBIJA I ELLAS ZA ZIVOT!!!!

Vlad		19-Jan-2006 10:52
TO BE A CHRISTIAN IN MY OPINION NOT MEANING ONLY TO BELIEVE IN GOD BUT TO SEARCH IT, TO UNDERSTAND THE MESSAGES WHO IT GIVE US. HONESTLY NEVERYBODY CAN BE SURE 100% ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF PARADISE BUT NEVERYBODY CAN BE TELL WHO CREATED THIS WORLD. SO ONLY GOD CAN BE EXPLAIN THAT. MIRACLES AND THE POWER OF CHRISTIAN TEACHMENT SHOW THAT GOD MUST EXIST AND WE MUST TO SEARCH HIM IN OUR HEART AND IN OUR MIND. SCIENCE IS ONLY NATURE, BUT GOD IS NATURE AND SPIRIT.

Alex Belgrade		18-Jan-2006 22:58
Georgi2006, Thank you for such a lovely insight. I appreciate your views and I understand you. The Patriarch of the Serbian Orthodox Church is refusing to receive the Pope until the Vatican gives an honest apology for events in the 1940s and 1990s. Happy Theophany or Bogojavljanje (in Serbian) to everyone. Tomorrow, we will have people swimming in the freezing river to retrieve a cross. Only the fittest can do this. I have faith, but I would never dare swim in the freezing water. You know what they say - you can believe in God, but do not leave your keys in your car. Same with me. I believe in God and nobody can take that away from me, but I would not swim in a freezing river. :) Cheers to everyone.

lee coleman		17-Jan-2006 23:41
much to many of your distaste an englishman is a european , an american is not . there for american politics , media , and opinion are null invoid in our EU .

Guest		17-Jan-2006 20:45
I mean Happy "Bogojavljenje" from the bottom of my heart.

Guest		17-Jan-2006 20:28
By the way I wish all my fellow Orthodox Christians a Happy Theophany (Theophania). It is a beautiful service watching the priest perform the "agiasmos" or blessing of the water. In the Middle East we call Holy Theophany "Eid el-Ghattas" or "Eid ed-Duhur". God Bless You All.

Guest		17-Jan-2006 20:15
I am an Orthodox Christian, and since my origins are Middle Eastern, and not from the Balkans, I do not have as much hostility towards Muslims...if you all take a trip to the West Bank of Palestine, you will find Christian Palestinians who are mostly Orthodox, living in peace next to Muslim Palestinians, and both united in their struggle against Israel's military occupation of their lands. I have never seen such peaceful coexistence. Even in Lebanon and Syria, Orthodox-Muslim relations are very good. Historically, we Orthodox of the Middle East have suffered more at the hands of Catholic Christians (Western Christians) than Muslims, although our relations with Muslims have not ALWAYS been smooth. Now, I do not understand why NATO (with American help) would bomb Serbia on Orthodox Easter (back in 2000). This of course is not the first time the Americans and British have bombed Serbia on Orthodox Easter...they did the same thing to Serbia on Orthodox Easter of 1944, and back in 1941, the Germans bombed Serbia on a Sunday, as people were getting ready to go to Church. The justification for the bombing back in 2000 was Serbian aggression against Kosovo Albanians. But I seriously doubt America and NATO would ever bomb Israel for her aggression against Palestinians, least of all on a holiday like the Jewish Passover. Serbia's entire infrastructure was targeted and bombed. Also, Western indifference to what Easter means to Orthodox Christians was appalling. That said, I am very hurt to hear hateful words coming from my fellow Orthodox Christians. Our religion is not a religion of hate. That is what makes us different from all others. Ours is a religion of peace. A religion of love. As St. Paul so very nicely put it, if we do not have love in our hearts, the words of our prayers are nothing more than "clanging cymbals". I hope this love will reign in the hearts of Serbs, Albanians, Croats, Bosnians, etc. and I also hope it will find room among Jews and Arabs who are both Semitic cousins, and that there will be peace in the Balkans as well as the Holy Land. Finally, I ask the Pope of Rome who took the time to apologize to the Jews for past wrongdoings against them, to also offer an apology to the Serbs. Nearly one million Serbs were slaughtered like sheep under Dictator Anton Pavelic, as Catholic priests blessed Ustasha terrorists who made a pastime out of killing fellow Slavs whose only "crime" was being Orthodox. And Cardinal Stepinac was the man who saw Orthodox Christians the same way he saw Muslims: both symbols of the hated East. No doubt numerous Orthodox were martyred when the Ottoman Turks first occupied Balkan lands, and many there are many Orthodox saints who were martyred during this period. But Croat aggression against Serbs happened only in the last century, and the Pontiff who offered a lukewarm apology for the "Fourth Crusade" against Orthodox Christian Constantinople, needs to offer another one to Orthodox Serbs. Once this has been acknowledged, there can be true reconciliation between the two Churches (I do not mean inter-Communion however).

Alex Beograde		17-Jan-2006 16:10
This is interesting. A verbal exchange between an Englishman and an American.

lee coleman		16-Jan-2006 19:28
and you guys think im an asshole because i am an englishman , you ill american , i bet you have not even left texas .

Guest		16-Jan-2006 17:23
OK?? He/she is a fucking prick, what do you mean kill ourselves off, it was European's who collanised the US you cunt. We are the oldest continent so if we can survive this long, I don't think America leaving will change that. I think if you fuckers left us, we would prosper as we have once prospered. You gained economically from World War Two, while we died for your freedom, and 50 years later, what do we get, you bombing us and you breaking our once great nation. Go and die, you yankee pussy. I bet you are a fat obese cunt also! Stefan SERB

Vlad		16-Jan-2006 12:46
YES GUEST, YOU'RE OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest		16-Jan-2006 11:06
hello from america, I have read quite a bit of these posting, I agree I wish america would keep it's nose out of tha Balkans and all of europe for that matter, because if we did - non of you would want to come here and start your crime rings, Romania is in bad shape due to it's people being born with a enert ability for crime, if people want change that exactly what they need - so once again america should keep it nose out of european affairs and hopefully you all will kill each other off.

Vlad		15-Jan-2006 10:21
WEST DIPLOMACT DON'T KNOW THA HISTORY OF BALKANS, FOR EXAMPLE ALSO GIULIANO AMATAO SAID FEW MONTHS AGO THAT AN INDEPENDENT KOSOVO WILL BE THE BEST SOLUTION WITHOUT TO KNOW WHAT KOSOVO MEANING FOR SERBS. LISTEN TO ME THEY DON'T KNOW HISTORY OF BALKANS BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW IT BECAUSE THEY ARE INTERESTED ONLY FOR ECONOMICAL QUESTIONS. WHY IN YOUR OPINION GERMANY AND USA WAS THE FIRST STATES WHO ACCEPTED INDEPENDENCE OF SLOVENIA AND CROATIA? NOW THE SAME STATES WANT THE INDEPENDENCE OF KOSOVO.

Guest		14-Jan-2006 13:34
People, have a look at some photos from my recent trip to Auckland in New Zealand, it is a very pleasant town I was surprised to see such a nice place, it is a very metropolitan city with lots of life and a warm atmosphere. http://www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/auckland SRBIJA I ELLAS!!

Guest		14-Jan-2006 12:12
Exactly, it couldn't have been put more simply. Fuck the West and fuck traitor network B92. Long Live SERBIA & GREECE!!

Alex Belgrade		14-Jan-2006 01:11
MY COMMENT: 1. Comparing Milosevic to H. is way out of place. 2. This lady fails to mention the negative influence of Germany on events in the Balkans, which have left a trace on the Serbian people. What about 1914, 1941, 1991 and 1999? I suppose she left that part out, I guess because of our "European future". 3. Crimes and ethnic cleansing were committed by individuals from all sides during the Yugoslav civil wars. Croats, Muslims (now called "Bosniaques"), Albanians all committed war crimes. What price will they pay for their policies? In what was once Yugoslavia, we now have nations and states that have never existed before, while Serbs, the biggest ethnic group of Yugoslavia, were mercilessly driven out from Krajina, parts of Bosnia, Kosovo? 4. It's easy to receive a huge salary in Brussels and dismantle other countries. This lady is not tearing her own country apart, but is tearing apart someone else's country. What's it to her? What's a thousand years of Serbian history, of Tzars, Kings, battles to her? What's the origin of the Serbian state to her? What are the Serbian myths and epic poems to her? What are the marvelous medieval churches and frescoes to her? Some of that has been proclaimed as part of the world's cultural heritage by UNESCO. What's all that to her?Nothing. 5. Now for some black humor. It is true that Germany was divided after the end of WW 2, it had lost some territories, but after 50 years it was allowed to unite into a big gigantic country. Following this logic, in 50 years there will be all Serbian lands united? 6. As much as I know, German natality is not doing so well, either. Perhaps those 3.5 million Turks in Germany can help boost it up a little. 7. Mrs. Pack, as a Serb, I am not at all "disoriented", as you say. I do not think Serbia is the biggest and the best in the world, but it sure deserves more credit than you give her. It's my country and I would die for it. It's the country I love and respect with all my being, with my heart and soul. I know exactly what I am, who I am, and what I want. It is the "goodhearted advice" and "services" of various Western politicians that make me sick. Leave us alone. Ever since the foreign factor got involved, we can't breathe. For God's sake, have you not had enough? Serbia has been punished up and down in every possible way. It has been demonized, isolated, bombed. I didn't see that happening to the Croats, Bosniaques, Albanians, even though they did things just as bad. For God's sake, leave us alone already and give us some breathing space. The Western pushing of Serbs against the wall, over and over, will only strengthen Milosevic and the Serbian Radical Party and it will weaken the trust of democratic Serbs for the European Union and its intentions. 8. And what exactly is "conditional independence"? Does this model exist anywhere? Either one country is independent or is not. 9. If Krajina was given back to the full sovereignity of Croatia, even though it was a fully functional Serbian state (it had its territory, army, money, police etc), why was reality not recognized then? That state was returned to Croatia, even though it was primarily populated by Serbs. In the same way, Kosovo should be returned to Serbia, even though it's mostly populated by Albanians. And why is the Republic of Srpska not allowed independence from Bosnia, while independence will be allowed to Kosovo from Serbia? Both are entities within a state. But, one is denied independence and the other will get it? Total double standards by the "international community", whatever that means. 10. I can see that the B92 media, a so-called promoter of "civil society", a media that is paid to spit on everything Serbian, has welcomed Doris Pack's statement. I guess all they gotta do is send her the champagne.

Alex Belgrade		14-Jan-2006 01:06
Statement by German politician: "I know what it's like for Serbs - we in Germany had to pay a huge price for crimes committed in our name, and so Serbs will also have to deal with what Milosevic has done in their name", says head of the European Parliament delegation for SE Europe, Ms. Doris Pack. "We understand that Serbs are disoriented after ten years of repeated claims by Milosevic's tribunes that Serbs are the greatest and the best, thereby making everyone else go against them. Serbian politicians must really work hard and make an example out of Serbia as it is, without Kosovo and probably without Montenegro. Serbia should pay more attention to natality rather than to lost territories". She added that Albanians should not get everything they want, and that Serbia should not come out of the Kosovo talks feeling dishonored and humiliated. "Giving Kosovo conditional independence will put an end to Balkan conflicts", says Pack. "If we look reality in the eyes, Kosovo is already completely separated from Serbia, in the economic, legal, administrative way. Can Serbia solve Kosovo's problems? It can't. Also, a fully independent Kosovo cannot function by itself, economically or legally, it cannot protect human rights and especially rights of the Serbian minority. So the only solution is for Kosovo to be conditionally independent, under supervision of the EU", concluded Pack in an interview for Serbian daily "Vecernje novosti" ("Evening News").

Alex Belgrade		13-Jan-2006 06:18
Guest from Canada, Thank you very much.

Guest		13-Jan-2006 01:05
Alex – I live in Canada (First I want to apologize for my country’s part on the illegal war on Yugoslavia during the 90’s) and could not agree more about your January 8th post. The most inhuman things can be done to Serbs or Serb Interests and nothing makes the media. However if a Serb even looks at a non-Serb the wrong way it is all over the news. The double standard and total willingness to eat the incredible bias and lies that are fed to us in North America will be our downfall. I have been to Serbia twice and think that it has an amazing spirit despite what it has gone through in the last 15 years not to mention throughout history. For this your people should be extremely proud.

Guest		13-Jan-2006 00:53
Alex – I live in Canada (First I want to apologize for my country’s part on the illegal war on Yugoslavia during the 90’s) and could not agree more about your January 8th post. The most inhuman things can be done to Serbs or Serb Interests and nothing makes the media. However if a Serb even looks at a non-Serb the wrong way it is all over the news. The double standard and total willingness to eat the incredible bias and lies that are fed to us in North America will be our downfall. I have been to Serbia twice and think that it has an amazing spirit despite what it has gone through in the last 15 years not to mention throughout history. For this your people should be extremely proud.

Vlad		12-Jan-2006 12:25
ALEX YOUR SPIRIT IS THE SPIRIT OF NEW SERBIA LIKE THE MINE IS THE SPIRIT OF THE NEW ROMANIA

Vlad		12-Jan-2006 12:23
STEFAN, PROBABILY WHEN YOU WAS IN ROMANIA THE LEVEL OF LIFE WAS LESS THEN SERBIA, BUT NOW I'M SURE THAT IF YOU COME IN TIMISOARA FOR EXAMPLE BUT ALSO IN ORADEA OR CLUJ NAPOCA YOU CAN SEE OUR PROGRESS. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A OMPETITION BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO OFFENCE, AND I KNOW THAT MY COUNTRY KNEW AFTER THE END OF COMMUNISM, ALMOST 7 YEARS OF ECONOMICAL DIFFICOULTS, BUT YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THAT SINCE 2000 A NEW DEAL BEGIN IN ROMANIA WITH AN ECONOMICAL GROWTH BY5 TO 8%AND AN INCREASE OF FROREIGN INVESTIMENT. FOR EXAMPLE BEFORE 2000 IN TIMISOARA WEREN'T COMMERCIAL CENTERS AND NOW THERE ARE 5, IN BUCHAREST THE ROADS WERE IN BAD CONDITIONS, AFTER 2000 THANKJS TO EU'S PROGRAM "SAPARD" OUR CAPITAL HAS A GOOD ROADS AND EVER AFTER 2000 WE START THE ONSTRUCTION OF NEW MOTORROADS. CERTAINLY IF YOU WANT TO COME HERE YOU CAN SEE AN ANOTHER ROMANIA. CERTAINLY THIS NOT MEANING THAT WE ARE A DEVELOPED OUNTRY, FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE A GREAT CORRUPTION AND A PERCENTAGE OF POOR PEOPLES CONSIDERABLE, BUT THE WAY IS THE GOOD, AND IN EVERY CASE I'M SURE THAT YOU CONSIDER ROMANIA A CIVIL COUNTRY, WITH A GREAT CULTURE AND GREAT HISTORY. IF YOU KNOW ROMANIANS YOU CAN SEE A CIVIL PEOPLE VERY HOSPYTABLE AND A TEEN PEOPLE VERY INTELLIGENT, FOR EXAMPLE THE NEW ANTIVIRUS SYSTEM OF MISCROSOFT WAS INVENTED BY SOME STUDENT FROM BUCHAREST. OUR CIVILITY IS THANKS OUR CHRISTIAN EUROPEAN VALOURS THE SAME OF YOU. I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND YOUR COUNTRY IN MY PRECEDENT COMMENT, AND I'M SORRY IF YOU THINK THAT I WANT TO SAY YOU THAT YOU MUST SEE TO US FOR DEVELOPING, BECAUSE I RESPECT NOT THE ECONOMICAL CONDITION WHO ARE IRRELEVANT BECAUSE IN NEXT FUTURE OUR TWO COUNTRY WE'LL BE DEVELOPED AND IN EU, I RESOPECT A CIVIL CHARACTER OF A PEOPLE, I CONSIDER A SPIRIT A CULTURE OF A PEOPLE AND NOT HIS ECNOMICAL CONDITION. FOR EXAMPLE AMERICA'S THE MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRY OF THE WORLD BUT AMERICAN PEOPLE IS VERY STUPID. IN EVERY CASE IF YOU HAVE IN PROGRAM FOR THIS SUMMER A VISIT IN MY COUNTRY I'M VERY GLAD TO MEET YOU AND TO SHOW THE GOOD ASPECT OF ROMANIA AND ITS PROGRESSES. I WISH YOU TO HAVE OPTIMISM FOR THE FUTUR, BECAUSE IN A DAY NOT FAR OUR REGION WILL BE LEADER IN EUROPE, LISTEN TO ME. SEE YOU AS SOON.

Alex Belgrade		12-Jan-2006 07:47
Vlad, Thank you for your wonderful words: STOP THIS NEGATIVE SPIRIT! WHEN THERE IS LIFE IS ALSO HOPE. First, Faith in God. Without that you are as good as dead. Second, Love. Have Love in your heart, not hate. Be open, respect other human beings, let your love for your country, for your history, for your human beings be seen coming from your heart and your soul, and your eyes. Smile, don't be bitter. Be optimistic. And finally, have Hope. I have all those things. I believe in God, in Serbia, I KNOW it will rise again, as it has risen before, dozens of times. I am perfectly happy with my life and I am delighted to see Serbia grow, to see all the little details come to place. Things are moving and coming to place, and one day everything will be where it's supposed to be.

Alex Belgrade		12-Jan-2006 07:39
Stefan Serb, Yugoslavia was not a MAJOR power as you say. It was an important player - the most important in the Balkans, but a MAJOR power, no. It had to be dismantled, I agree. It stood in the way of German and American expansion to the East. It was a test model for Russia, a way to gain quick access to the Balkan market, to the Middle East etc.... But, for example, if we had someone pro-Western oriented like Djindjic, I do not think there would have been bloodshed. We would have split up peacefully, like the Czechs and Slovaks. When communism was growing unpopular all over Europe, Milosevic still waved communist flags. While other leaders, idiots such as Tudjman, Izetbegovic etc were all former communists, turned nationalists, they managed to PRESENT themselves to the West as democratic. Like Montenegro leaders are doing now. But, in reality, they are not democratic. Milosevic failed to present himself as a pro-democratic and he was always seen as hardline communist, particularly next to his crazy wife. He failed to realise that wars of the 21st century are won by lobbying, by information, not by just military. While Croats, Albanians and Muslims all lobbied in Washington for their cause - paying Congressmen and Interest Groups, hiring PR agencies, Serbia did nothing. It is not true that Milosevic did not control Serbian paramilitary troops in Bosnia and Croatia. Don't let me get into details, but it's not true. You see, dear Stefan, the Serbian name has never been so tarnished as during Milosevic's era. We were always a justful nation, a nation which fought on the Allied side when everyone else around us goose stepped with Nazis. We were always a nation of victims, a nation that suffered for the right cause. Never have we performed genocide, we were always the victims of genocide. Now the world views us as crazy, our suffering is completely ignored and Serbia is blamed for all that is evil. Milosevic is the grave digger of Serbia. He may have had the right cause for the war - Serbs had every right to unite rather than to stay in Nazi Croatia or islamic Bosnia. But, whatever Milosevic did, he did it wrong and the result was TERRIBLE. It's the results that count. Please let's drop talking about Milosevic. My stomach gets sick just of hearing his name. Because of him, I lost 15 best years of my youth, my cousin died in the war, my sister left to Canada as did 400,000 other people, mostly educated.

Guest		11-Jan-2006 21:32
Alex, Don't you understand that Yugoslavia was a threat to the West as a major power and they needed to break us from the inside out like they did with the Soviet Union, it is not Milosevic's fault, it was inevitable. Do you honestly think that if another person was in charge Yugoslavia would not have collapsed? It is not Milosevic's fault we had sanctions, he didn't control paramilitary groups in Bosnia, the World put sanctions on us to try and break us, and with the surrender of Kosovo, we seased to be strong, we now are a piece of shit in everyone's eyes and we have no say, our land can just be traded and shuffled around to others and we can only watch. It was those muppets who threw Milosevic out that made Serbia look weak, that we were defeated, a lawless country no different to Iraq. That is how they made us look and that will be our image for a very long time, Milosevic did not give up, the people gave up. Vlad, the country is not in such a bad state now, no offence but I have been to Romania a few years ago and despite sanctions etc. our wealth seems to be higher. Maybe not now but it certainly was when I visited. We are only developing bit by bit that blinds the people, but it is not important what the people inside Serbia think they are doing, it is the way Serbia and Serbs are portrayed outside of Serbia in the West, because their media calls the shots. As for what your Iron Guard leader said, listen, what do you think the Kosovo War was? The Albanians started making noise and trouble, we took it until a certain point, then we sent in our troops and expelled 1.3 million Shiptare Scum in 48 hours and met little resistance, our armed forces was one of the greatest on the planet (not anymore). How much of a reply did you want?

Vlad		11-Jan-2006 21:27
MILOSEVIC WANT TO MAKE THE SERBIA WITH KRAJINA AND SERBIAN BOSNIA BUT HE COMMITTED A DIPLOMATIC MISTAKE. IN EVERY CASE I REMEMBER: I DON'T CROSS SERBIA BEFORE THIS SUMMER BY 13 YEARS, THIS SUMMER I WAS INTERESTED TO SE NOW SERBIA AFTER THESE LONG YEARS, AND I SAW A GREAT INCREDIBLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TITO'S YUGOSLAVIA AND SERBIA POST-MILOSEVIC. BUT IN EVERY CASE I SAW ALSO A THING THAT CERTAINLY SHOW THAT SERBIA IS NOT DEAD: I SAW A PEOPLE THAT HAS A GREAT HOPE AND A GREAT INTENTION TO LIVE. THIS IS THE BEGIN OF SERBIAN FUTUR: THE FUTUR IS START, DON'T WORRY FOR MILOSEVIC SEE TO EUROPE NOW, SEE IN YOUR SPIRIT YOUR FATE, SEE YOUR COUSINS OF SLOVENIA AND CROATIA AND START A PERSONAL PATRIOTTIC COMPETITION AND I'M SURE THAT YOU'LL KNOW A REISSANCE. YES, IT'S TRUE THAT YOU CAME OUT COMMUNISM ONLY BY 6 YEARS BUT, YOU MUST CONSIDER THAT THE NEW SITUATION, WILL HELP SERBIA. FOR EXAMPLE WE'LL KNOW A GREAT ECONOMICAL GROWTH THANKS TO THE OPPORTUNITY THAT ROMANIA OFFER TO FOREIGN INVESTITORS, NOW I KNOW THAT ALSO SERBIA BEGIN TO BECOME AN INTERESTING ZONE FOR FOREIGN INVESTIMENT. STOP THIS NEGATIVE SPIRIT! WHEN THERE IS LIFE IS ALSO HOPE. SEE YOU AS SOON

Vlad		11-Jan-2006 21:06
STEFAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CANNOT FIGHT ANYMORE BUT NATO CANNOT DESTRY YOUR PEOPLE, AND WHEN AN ARMY IS STRONGER THAN ANOTHER THE DIFFERENCE CAN BE MAKING ONLY BY THE PEOPLE. I KNOW THAT BOYS OF SRPSKI OBRAZ CAME IN KOSOVO TWO YEARS AGO FOR DEFEND HIS BROTHER AGAINST THE ALBANIANS WHO ATTACK THEM IN "IBAR". YES I SAW THIS SUMMER THE CONDITIONS OF SERBIA BUT DON'T WORRY IN NEXT FUTUR YOU'LL COME IN EU AND YOU WILL REPARE YOUR DESTROYED BUILDINGS BY FOREIGN INVESTIMENT FOR EXAMPLE. AND IN EVERY CASE I SUGGEST YOU TO DON'T STOP THE FIGHT. THIS IS THE HOPE OF UCK. I HOPE THAT ALL REAL EUROPEAN NATIONALISTS WILL COME THERE TO HELP A CHRISTIAN ISLE AGAINST THE ATTACK OF TURKISH OTTOMAN OF 2000: UCK. CODREANU THE FOUNDATOR OF IRON GUARD SAID: "REPLY EVER ATTACK OF THE ENEMIES AND SEE THEM IN THEIR EYES". THIS IS THE WAY O THE NEW GENERATION OF EUROPE IN MY OPINION.

Alex Belgrade		11-Jan-2006 20:48
Stefan Serb! "Milosevic did not lose us the war". Hello?! Milosevic lost us that war, and he lost us Krajina and parts of Bosnia and Slovenia. He lost us everything. Because of him we were isolated, demonized, and now many centuries old Serbian lands are Serbless. Milosevic was just about the most arogant, the stupidest, the most stubborn leader we have ever had. Never has Serbia been so isolated, never has a Serb brought upon so much destruction to his people, as Milosevic has done. I am very sorry that you do not realise that. But, he was the man in charge in Serbia and I blame him for taking 15 years of my youth. I blame him for smeering our past, destroying our present and also our future. It will take us decades to recover from Tito's and Milosevic's communist and socialist-nationalist policies. The people did a good job by throwing him out, they should have done that sooner, in 1989 when the rest of Eastern Europe and Russia got rid of communists. Instead, we did it in 2000. Better late than never, but we have suffered so much under Milosevic and don't you dare tell me that he was a good man. And don't be naive. You say - if we held out just a bit longer, Nato member countries would have quarelled and then Nato would have disintegrated. That's not true. Nato would have carpet-bombed Belgrade. Milosevic surrendered as soon as power was out, and people in big apartment buildings started having trouble with water supply. It is true that they did not destroy so much of our army as they had thought, but they destroyed a lot of infrastructure. Had the war lasted longer, Belgrade and most of Serbia would have been flattened to the ground and we would have ended in the Dark ages. Milosevic was not supposed to get us to a point where war with Nato and the whole world was an option. He should have done anything to AVOID such a situation. You seem to be a hard nationalist and also a hard pro-Milosevic man. Seems like the radical-socialist combination. My God. I agree with you when you say - hopefully Justice will be served to those who have bestowed such evil upon Yugoslavia and Serbia. Primarily the key Western governments. What goes around shall come around. And Kosovo is not yet lost. Have faith. We have lost it in 1389. We got it back in 1913. We lost it in 1915. We got it back in 1918. We lost it in 1941. We got it back in 1945. We may be losing Kosovo now, but we will get it back again. Someday, someway, somehow. Have faith and the good Lord will be there for us. And, Serbia is NOT finished. I think Serbia is rising from a 50 year period of dictatorship and a 10 year period of total madness. Serbia is recovering and it is evident. I am happy with my life in Belgrade. Things are not as bad as they seem, although if you are a Milosevic fan, I am sorry for you. Tito is not going to get up from his grave and Milosevic is not going to return from the Hague tribunal. The sooner you forget Milosevic, the better it will be for you. That's advice from a friend. I AM NOT YOUR ENEMY.

Guest		11-Jan-2006 19:19
I am back from a wonderful 4 week holiday in New Zealand and I can see that there has been much more fueds and insults hurled around. Tirana, I suggest that you please stay quiet from now on, as you have reduced your level of intelligence immensely by talking about a subject you quite clearly know absolutely nothing about. Be glad that at least Albania is in Europe. It is by far the least developed in terms of infrastructure and mentality in perhaps the entire World outside of Africa and South Asia. So be glad that at least one day (not for at least 50 years) you may enter the European Union and be its largest receiver of AID. Vlad, it is not as simple as it sounds, for Serbs cannot just return to Kosovo in their thousands, it is now a shit hole. Plus, return to where? Their houses have all been destroyed or reoccupied. If any are still standing, there would be no point returning to a neightbourhood under UCK Control where all are Albanian Muslims, to face torture and death and for WHAT? NATO and the West have decided our fate without our consent and Kosovo is already no longer ours. It was no longer ours from the minute our stupid fucking Cabinet (who voted to send our troops to Kosov in the first place) voted to pull them out and surrender our land. We were not forced by NATO, despite their claims to having destroyed 90% of our entire armed forces, the fact is that they destroyed no more than 7 real tanks, the rest were too well hidden for them to succesfully destroy. They destroyed a few empty military buildings in Belgrade.....oh no please stop. NATO was already coming into conflict with each other toward the end of the war with France beginning to opt out and with Greece already out NATO was splitting. Then, we pulled out and lost everything we have worked hard for, for centuries. Milosevic is not the man who lost us the war, the Serbian people lost Serbia the war, if you remember the riots outside our Federal Parliament you'll see what I mean. Can you imagine though, a couple more weeks and NATO, the strongest force on Earth would have disintegrated because of pissy little Serbia who they thought they could run over in a couple of days. We can never send back our troops because we have now signed the treaty that said we could never do it again. If we sent back our troops, the whole World would bomb Serbia until it was a golfcourse. You do not understand fully that if we began to try and repopulate that the West would pick up on this immediately and ban all Serbs to enter Kosovo. You also don't understand that if we entered Kosovo more diplomatically back in 1999, we would have been made to look as though we weren't by the most powerful weapon, The Western Media. We cannot fight anymore, Serbia is finished, come and see it while you can. But mark my words, the shit will hit the fan one day and there will be no going back for the US and Britain etc. Justice will be ours and they will suffer in their own doing. Happy New Year everyone by the way. Cao. SRBIJA I ELLAS!!

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Vlad		11-Jan-2006 11:52
IN EVERY CASE EVERYBODY KNOW THAT KOSOVO IS A SERB REGION. I KNEW THAT ILLYARIANS WERE ONLY IN THE ACTUAL ALBANIA AND IN THE SOME DALMATIAN ISLES. ILLYARIAN ALBANIA WAS KNOW ALSO AS EPIRO AND HIS ANCIENT LEADER PIRRO FIGHT AGAINST ROME WITH HIS ELEPHANTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT ILLYRIANS WAS ALSO IN KOSOVO WHERE WAS FOUNDED THE FIRST SERBIAN STATE. MILOSEVIC COMMITTED A GREAT MISTAKE TO TREATED THIS PROBLEM WITHOUT DIPLOMACY AND HE SEND HIS ARMY TOO QUICKLY. IN MY OPINION HE MUSTED TO DON'T CANCELL KOSOVO AUTONOMY AND HE MUSTED TO MAKE A DEMOGRAPHIC POLICY FOR INCREASE SERBIAN POPULATION IN KOSOVO TO MAKE AN ETHNIC EQUITY. ONLY BY THIS POLICY UCK PROBABILY STOP ITS AGGRESSION. NOW AFTER NATO'S STRIKES THE OLDEST VOJSKA OF TITO (THE 4TH ARMY OF EUROPE) IS AT THE PRESENT A SMALL ARMY OF ALMOST 35000 TROOPS WITH BAD WEAPONS AND A CHAOTIC LEADERSHIP. LAST YEAR NEBOJSA PAVKOVIC SAID THAT IN NEXT FUTUR SERBIAN VOJSKA WILL GO BACK IN KOSOVO BUT IN THESE CONDITIONS NATO'S ARROGANCE IS GLAD TO GIVE INDEPENDENCE TO KOSOVO. I'M SORRY TO SEE THIS SITUATIONS BECAUSE I'M A CHRISTIAN WHO CAN'T SEE SERBIAN ANCIENT MONASTERY DESTROYED BY UCK BUT I'M AFRAID THAT THE FUTUR OF KOSOVO IS DESIGNED. I SYUGGEST TO SERBIAN PEOPLE, THEREFORE TO DON'T ACCEPT THIS SITUATION, IF KOSOVO WILLL BE INDEPENDENT, AND IF YOUR VOJSKA WON'T IN CONDITION TO DEFEND IT, ONLY SERBIAN PEOPLE CAN RESOLVE THAT, BY A VOLOUNTAR MASSIVE SPEDITIONS IN KOSOVO. FIGHT, FIGHT AND FIGHT TO DEFEND AN EUROPEAN CHRISTIAN REGION, WITH THE SAME SPIRIT THAT BALKANIC PEOPLES HAS IN THE PAST AGAINST OTTOMAN TURKISH ARMY.

Alex Belgrade		11-Jan-2006 07:46
Tirana, I am aware of the Albanian theory that they were once Ilirians (Ilyrians?). Why were you guys not called Albanians? Serbs do not believe in this theory. In any case, some of the oldest arcaeological finds of human civilizations in Europe were found in Lepenski vir, present day Serbia. So, don't talk to me about Albanians being the oldest civilization in Europe, because people will laugh. Serbian fresco paintings in medieval churches were made several centuries BEFORE the great Renaissance in Italy. Serbs have given the world Ivo Andric, the Nobel Prize winner for literature, Nikola Tesla, Michael Pupin and Milutin Milankovic, all world aclaimed scientists. Serbs have fought on the Allied side in both world wars - the only ones of the former Yugoslavia to be on the right side both times. A Serb, general Mihailovic, was probably the only one in the Balkans to receive the Legion of Merit, the most important US medal, Serbs have left a trace in world culture because some Serbian churches were recognized by UNESCO as part of the world heritage, Serbia is a multiple European and World Basketball Champion. Director of Microsoft's Development Center is a Serb named Bodin Dresevic, out of 120 people of Motorola based in Chicago, 40 originate from Serbia Etc. Serbia, a small but proud country, has in many ways contributed to the world. Other than Skender Beg, there is nobody else in Albanian history worth mentioning. Albania was created by the big players in 1913 just so that Serbia could be stopped from gaining access to the sea. Montenegro, Serbian ally, was forced to give up Skadar. Albania was not a significant player during the Balkan Wars of 1912 and 1913. During WW 1 it was not a significant player, but about 150,000 Serbs lost their lives in bitterly cold Albanian mountains, from starvation, freezing to death, diseases and Albanian tribes who shot at them, as Serbs temporarily retreated from Austria-Hungary, Germany and Bulgaria, to find salvation by our friends the Greeks, in places like Corfu. During WW 2 Albania was a fascist country supported by Musolinni. Italian-occupied Greater Albania massacred some 10,000 Serbs, ethnically cleansing about 100,000 Serbs and settling of 70,000 of Albanians from Albania into Kosovo. After WW 2, Albania was the most dictatorial communist country, the poorest and most backward of all in Europe. Probably still is. So, please be careful when you talk about the might of Albania, war efforts, cultural, sports and other achievements of Albania, other than drug and human trafficking :) Up until 1991 there were only few cars in Tirana and donkeys were still in use. There is a joke which is actually real: If your car gets stolen, chances are it will probably end up in Albania. Ladies and Gentleman, Elvis has left the building!

Alex Belgrade		11-Jan-2006 07:05
D.G. I have been to Canada repeatedly since my sister lives there. It is a wonderful place. The life style is similar to the US but the people seem to be more aware of the world. I have enjoyed Canada very much. It's a country full of harmony amongst all the different nations and cultures, a country with wonderful nature. Of course there are problems in Quebec. You are right, Canada is kind of isolated over there, sitting in the shadow of the United States, and it does not have a very large history and not a single conflict on its land. However, here in the Balkans there is a thousand years of history, of territories going back and forth. As you see I am trying to be as tollerant as possible, to have conversation with Tirana the Albanian, Stefan Serb, Vlad the Romanian. I truly wish for world peace everywhere, but that is never going to be possible, because the United States is behind most wars, revolutions and conflics these days on the planet (openly or secretly),so that their military industry is not out of a job since the end of the Cold war. My friend, please do get in touch so that I can show you around Belgrade. Having a local guide who knows the language, places and customs, can be of use. Welcome to Belgrade! I hope you will have a great time here! P.S. Can we PLEASE all stop the insults and the bad words? Is that possible?? Love to all goodhearted people! Alex

Guest		11-Jan-2006 01:57
motzis ... don't even open your mouth up ... you have nothing intelligent to say

motzis		11-Jan-2006 00:45
friend u caught me at last.it was me who used elias' name to make fun with this jurk named elias a gay short and angly elf.to be honest i am bored to reading all these stupidities.lee fuck off men.do it for the wellness of the humanity.dirty shit albanian go die

lee coleman		10-Jan-2006 19:36
alex the shelling of the bus was on BBC ........forget CNN this is total trash media and reporting , people who choose to watch CNN for information are unimportant anyway . the BBC has and always will commit to the truth and well informed journalism .

Guest		10-Jan-2006 18:22
Boy oh boy ......... there is alot of hatred in this forum .. Well I am from Canada and I am coming to Serbia in June. My Dad came from Vrsac but came to Canada when he was 4. I guess because I am Canadian I don't "hate" any country ... I really dislike the US but who doesn't. Maybe I have lived a shelter life? I think it's because we don't have alot of countries around us and also no wars have happened here in N.A. I'm sure that will change. I know this is all politics ....... I don't care if you are a Gypsy, Romanian, Albanian, Serbian etc. I know I haven't been around when all this crap was going on ... I'm one who would like everyone to get along as well as possible ... you can call me naive but way over here we have a different life style. If you start saying nasty things about "my country" .. and curse me up and down .... then I know the kind of person you are. Ya everyone has the freedom of speech .... you can say things good or bad about my country but to be as low as most of you are back and forth to each other ... WOW. Hate means you don't care what happens to that other person or country ... and we are hoping for world peace. It's not going to happen. Not in my life time anyways. Elias ... it's too bad this had to happen on your site. Great pictures and I'm quite excited to see Belgrade and Vrsac and the rest of the former Yugoslavia. DEB

Friend		10-Jan-2006 17:26
Elias, that is obviously not you talking because your name is not highlighted as a hyperlink, plus, if you wanted everyone to stop posting or reduce the number of posts, you can just delete all the old irrelevant comments.

Alex Belgrade		10-Jan-2006 16:07
Tirana, If Albanians were loyal citizens (some were, and were later shot by "KLA"as traitors), we would have no problems. Albanians in Yugoslavia were a MINORITY. They had the right to have their own TV station - I know that for many years the Serbian TV broadcast news in Albanian, as well as Hungarian, etc. But, the Albanians in Kosovo wanted to broadcast their own "Greater Albania" propaganda. Same with schools. There were schools in Albanian, but they had to follow the curriculum of the Serbian state and Yugoslavia, but they wanted to study their own history from books printed in Albania. Again, anti-Serbian and anti- Yugoslav propaganda was not possible to be allowed. As citizens of Yugoslavia the Albanians in Kosovo were supposed to pay taxes, respect laws, serve the army, participate in elections. One by one, they boycotted all those things. They gave money to the illegal "KLA"- until a few years ago viewed by the FBI as a terrorist organization made up of drug lords and terrorists. They boycoted the laws of the state to which they belonged to. They created a parallel education system, they boycotted serving the Yugoslav army..., but they continued to use benefits such as free healthcare. And then they started attacking and murdering Yugoslav Army soldiers and Serbian police. They started kidnapping and threatening Serbian civilians. Radical Albanians murdered Albanians who were loyal to Serbia... Which state would tolerate any of this? Serbia had tolerated Albanian separatism and terrorism. Then it got angry, cracked down on Albanian terrorism, as well as civilians, provoking a Nato response etc. But, the fact is that Albanians in Kosovo have for decades been hostile to the state they were part of. No serious state could tolerate this. The root of the problem is in Albanian separatism. That separatism has been going on for at least 25 years, ever since Tito died. That separatism, combined with civil disobbedience and terror, provoked a terrible and overwhelming Serbian reaction, which then provoked a terrible and overwhelming Nato reaction, which then lead to the OCCUPATION of a centuries-old Serbian land Kosovo by dozens of foreign armies. Albanian separatism will also be the root of the problem in the future, in Montenegro and maybe Greece. Greece is in the EU and I don't think Albanians in Greece will dare do anything... But, who knows.

Alex Belgrade		10-Jan-2006 15:49
Tirana, Everyone knows that Tito was friends with Enver, he helped Albania a lot, some of the Albanian railways were built with Yugoslav money, and he allowed an influx of Albanians into Kosovo, at the same time forbidding Serbs who were exiled during WW 2 to return there. That's because Tito was anti-Serb and he did everything to weaken Serbia. That's why ONLY in Serbia he created the autonomous provinces, one of them being Kosovo. He could have done the same in Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia, but instead he divided Serbia into 3 parts. His basic motto was: Weak Serbia = Strong Yugoslavia. Serbian state was founded in Kosovo way back when in the Middle Ages, it is our most holy land and you tell me it is Albanian? Give me any sign of Albanian culture or traces of Albanian rule in Kosovo. When was Kosovo part of any Albanian state? It was during the Nazi-styled Greater Albania during WW 2, but that can not count as legitimate. You can easily find the trace of Serbian influence. Just look at all the medieval monasteries. The biggest number of Christian churches on such a small area in Europe can be found in Kosovo. Also, our medieval books, our monuments such as the monument at Gazimestan etc. That's why Albanians are now wiping out all traces of Serbian influence in Kosovo, to hide the fact that Kosovo is NOT theirs, historically. They are tearing down churches, stone by stone, and turning them to parks, or public toilettes or trash depots. All the Serbian monuments in Albanian controlled bits of Kosovo have been torn down - the monuments of Serbian medieval rulers, kings, and also monuments of partisans who fought in WW 2. Even Orthodox graveyards are being destroyed. In short, everything that resembles centuries of Serbian trace in Kosovo is being systematically wiped out. And all that under the watchful eye of the West. The mosques in Kosovo were Turkish, not Albanian. Kosovo was absorbed by TURKS, not Albanians. Kosovo was part of the Turkish empire, not an Albanian one. Having been occupied by the Turks, we liberated it after the Balkan wars of 1912 and 1913 and after World War One. After 1918 it was integrated into Yugoslavia, as was in 1945. Until 1941 Serbs were the absolute majority in Kosovo and Bosnia and made up to 30% of the population in Croatia. After suffering enormous genocide in WW 2 by Nazi Croats and Bosnian Muslims and Kosovo Albanians - all servants to the Nazis, the demographics had changed. 90% Albanians live in Kosovo today because 1) so many illegal aliens from Albania came and stayed there and 2) there is such a rapid growth of Albanian population - the highest growth rate in Europe. I am sorry that Albanians in Kosovo have suffered under Milosevic, but so have we in the rest of Serbia. In any case, Nato returned Albanians to Kosovo, including many who escaped the chaos in Albania, but have not previously lived in Kosovo. But, who will return the 250,000 Serbs to Croatia? Who will return the 250,000 Serbs to Kosovo? You see, Tirana, so many Albanians from Albania came to Kosovo because Kosovo, although the poorest region of Yugoslavia, was still doing far better than Albania. That's the simple truth. It is not the question of "Albanian rights". Albanians have had more rights in Tito's Yugoslavia than Serbs had in Albania. Albanians in Southern Serbia now have all the rights as do all other minorities, but they always want more and more. It is the question of a radical ideology - Greater Albania. Our police have captured so many maps of Greater Albania from "KLA" fighters - which would include Albania proper, Kosovo, Southern Serbia (Presevo, Bujanovac, Medvedja), about half of Macedonia, bits of Montenegro (Ulcinj etc) and bits of Greece. Wake up. If Serbia was not allowed to make a Greater Serbia in the 1990s, and Croatia was not allowed to make a Greater Croatia, why would Albania be allowed to make a Greater Albania? Why would Albanians have 2 states? Why would there be 2 Albanian flags flying on the UN building?

Alex Belgrade		10-Jan-2006 15:17
Tirana, Kosovo before 1913 was part of the Ottoman Turkish Empire, not Albania. To prove to you that Kosovo historically is a Serbian land, here are the demographics: 15th century 1455: Turkish cadastral tax census (defter)9 of the Brankovic dynasty lands (covering 80% of present-day Kosovo and Metohija) recorded 480 villages, 13,693 adult males, 12,985 dwellings, 14,087 household heads (480 widows and 13,607 adult males). By ethnicity: 12,985 Serbian dwellings present in all 480 villages and towns 75 Vlach dwellings in 34 villages 46 Albanian dwellings in 23 villages 17 Bulgarian dwellings in 10 villages 5 Greek dwellings in LauÅ¥a, VuÄitrn 1 Jewish dwelling in VuÄitrn 1 Croat dwelling 17th-18th century The Great Turkish War of 1683-1699 between the Ottomans and the Habsburgs led to the flight of a substantial part of Kosovo's Serbian population to Austrian held Vojvodina and the Military Frontier. Following this an influx of Muslim Albanian19 from the highlands (Malesi) occurred, mostly into Metohija. The process continued in 18th century19. 19th century 19th century data about the population of Kosovo tend to be rather conflicting, giving sometimes numerical superiority to the Serbs and sometimes to the Albanians. Many historians regard Ottoman statistics as being unreliable, as the empire counted its citizens by religion rather than nationality, using birth records rather than surveys of individuals. A study in 1838 by an Austrian physician, dr. Joseph MÃŸller found Metohija to be mostly Slavic (Serbian) in character. 10 MÃŸller gives data for the three counties (Bezirke) of Prizren, Pec and Djakovica which roughly covered Metohija, the portion adjacent to Albania and most affected by Albanian settlers. Out of 195,000 inhabitants in Metohija, MÃŸller found: 73,572 Orthodox Serbs 38% 5,120 Catholic Albanians 3% 2,308 other non-Muslims (Vlachs etc.) 114,000 Muslims (58%), of which: c. 38,000 are Serbs (19%) c. 76,000 are Albanians (39%)

Tirana		10-Jan-2006 11:49
Alex, i admit that Albanians in Kosovo should have acted differently, but do you admit that Serbs also should have done the same thing? During 15 years or more who was the country that restricted the rights to Albanians in Kosovo, wasn't it Serbia? I might be wrong but as far as i know from Albanians there, the albanian language was forbiden in schools and universities these last years. So please don't talk about people living hapily in Serbia Montenegro. Am i wrong or Montenegro had more rights than Kosovo, constitutionnally speaking? I know that the Kosovo issue is quite a difficult one and i think that it is impossible to find a common opinion, but let's discuss on some points. Well, you are talking about Albanians that came there during Tito. Personnally i didn't know that something like this happenned, but let's suppose it's true. From the moment that your government accepted them they have the same rights as other people living there, so i think that it is nonsense to explain the reasons why Albanians in Kosovo are of greater number, the only thing that counts is the fact that they form 90% of the population. But, even though, the problem is not there. I know what Kosovo represents for Serbia, but don't you think that's a little illogical? Well if i'm not wrong the war that stopped the Ottoman empire was fought in Kosovo. Well let's suppose now that the unity of Albanians came from a war that happened in Bulgaria. Should we say that the concerned region must be albanian? No, it's nonsense! Please tell me to whom did Kosovo belong historically speaking? Weren't Serbs (slavians) a population that was later installed in the Balkans? Kosovo was, before 1913 when the european countries (Great Britain, France etc.) divided Albania, a territory of the Ottoman Empire because only a small part of Albania could become independent in 1912. So half of Albania was divided amongts Greece, Serbia, Montenegro and Macedonia. Why? Because they couldn't get their independance from the Ottoman Empire. Now the question that i will ask you is this one : Greeks know that some of their northern territories were albanian before 1913, but now almost everyone have agreed, more or less, that we can't get them back because the Greek government was intelligent enough to repopulate those regions, mostly without war. So why problems exist only in Kosovo? Was it because that the Serb government didn't do the same as Greece and didn't repopulate Kosovo? Well i think that the Serbian government knew exactly the consequences of this behaviour and if it had an opportunity they would have seised it. So it is maybe that Kosovo was already majoritory albanian and acting like Greece might have provoked a "civil" war. And also according to Tito do you really think that he wanted Kosovo to become independant. I don't think so. So why did he let, as you say, Albanians comme into Kosovo? Well maybe because he could do nothing about it. Maybe because that from the beggining Kosovo was, by its traditions, fondamentally different from the rest of Serbia... This is a personal opinion. So now we can debate about this subject, even though i know that i am in a strong minority :). Please give me some arguments. Ps : Did you see the film Alexander the Great? In the beginning there is a young man from his army that is dying. He said tha he was from Iliria (Iliria=Albania+ Kosovo etc. etc.) ;)

Alex Belgrade		09-Jan-2006 15:36
Vlad, I don't think of you as a crazy fascist. You have the right to your opinion, as does everyone else. It may seem a bit radical or over the edge for me, but I can't stop you from having an opinion. It just seems a little far fetched to be an extreme nationalist. I love my country and I would die for it, but I am also trying to be as tolerant as possible. That means - there are good Albanians and bad ones, good Serbs and bad ones, good Romanians and bad ones, etc. Perhaps, if we all had a bit more of common sense and tolerance, there would not be so much of a mess in the Balkans. Just to illustrate one thing. Serbia and Montenegro is the only true multi-cultural and multi-religious state of the former Yugoslavia. Slovenia never had many minorities. Croatia is almost ethnically pure, having driven most of its Serbs out. Bosnia and Hercegovina is divided among ethnic lines, among the two entities and 3 peoples. Macedonia is divided among ethnic lines, between Macedonians and Albanians. But, only in Serbia and Montenegro will you find dozens of minorities - Albanians, Hungarians, Romanians, Gypsies, Slovaks, Bosnian Muslims etc. They all live happily, they all have all the rights, but the Albanians always want more. It's not a question of their "rights", it's a question of their desire to have a Greater Albania. Now, in Southern Serbia, made up of 3 municipalities, Albanians want to join with Kosovo. They will never stop. If Montenegro decides to go, they will start problems there. Seems like everyone can get whatever they want - Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Albanians in Kosovo... everyone except Serbs. And Serbs are the largest people of the former Yugoslavia, but their interests have not been looked after at all. It is just not fair. It's easy to give away someone else's lands. I could just as easily give California and Texas to the Mexicans, what do I care? Remember, folks, what goes around comes around. Those Western governments that have supported muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo, now end up having problems with muslims. Those Western governments that have dismantled Yugoslavia in such a brutal way and are doing the same to Serbia, will face their own terrorist and separatist movements. And then I hope their citizens will see what it's like to have your country torn apart..

Vlad		09-Jan-2006 12:03
MY PARTY NOUA DREAPTA HAD CELEBRATE THE NATIONAL DAY IN COVASNA WHERE ARE MANY HUNGARIANS AND THEY SHUT UP. THIS MEANING TO SHOW TO A MINORITY WHO ASK TOO MUCH. TO RESPECT THE SUVERANITY OF THE STATE WHERE IT LIVE, WITHOUT VIOLENCE.

Vlad		09-Jan-2006 11:55
TO RESPECT A MINORITY NOT MEANING TO SUBMIT TO IT. A MINORITY MUST BE RESPECT BUT IT MUST ACCEPT TO BE IN EVERY CASE A MINORITY WHO MUST RESPECT THE POWER OF THE STATE. FOR EXAMPLE VASCOS HAVE A GREAT AUTONOMY BUT THEY CONTINUE TO ASK MUCH MORE, THE SAME CASE CAN BE CONSIDERATED ABOUT ALBANIANS FROM KOSOVO WHO START A TERRORIST FIGHT AFTER THEIR AUTONOMY. THEREFORE I THINK THAT EVERY STATE WHO HAS THESE PROBLEMS MUST ASK RESPECT BEFORE TO GIVE AUTONOMY TO A MINORITY. ALEX KNOW CERTAINLY THAT HUNGARIANS FROM VOJVODINA LAST MONTH WERE VERY DANGEROUS, BECAUSE THEY COMMITTED MANY PROVOCATIONS AS HORTYST MUSIC DAY IN VOJVODINA ORGANIZATED BY HUNGARIAN FIDESZ. WHEN I WAS IN SUBOTICA AND I ASKED IN ENGLISH SOME INFORMATIONS, HUNGARIANS ANSWER ME ONLY "NEM TUDOM" AND I SAW THAT HUNGARIANS SPOKE ONLY WITH THEIR SAME, APART FROM SERBS. PROBABILY YOU SAY ME THAT I'M A CRAZY FASCIST BUT I'M PROUD TO LOVE IRON GUARD BECAUSE IN THESE SITUATIONS I CAN'T ACCEPT THESE PROVOCATIONS. RESPECT ASK RESPECT.

Alex Belgrade		09-Jan-2006 00:03
abichuga Okay, Belgrade is lovely in the summer. There is plenty of time left, but I will still want to meet you and show you around. The problem with the world today is that different criteria are used in each case. Spain will never allow Basque region to get independence because Spain is in the EU. But, Yugoslavia was torn apart by the West, and now Serbia is being torn apart. If Kosovo is allowed to leave, it will encourage all separatist and terrorist movements worldwide. The same principles should apply to everybody. But, that is not the case.

Alex Belgrade		08-Jan-2006 23:59
There was a big earthquake in Greece, 6.9 on the Richter Scale, its epicenter was 70 km under the sea. Thank God nobody was seriously hurt. The earthquake was felt in Greece, as well as Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Libya, Cyprus, Macedonia and Croatia. I thank God Greece is safe and our Greek friends are OK.

abichuga		08-Jan-2006 19:44
alex, thanks much for your invitation! although maybe it is too soon to arrange a meeting cause i will get there on july, for staying at least one month. about what you say of giving up kosovo, i pretty much agree with you. as you claim, we have a similar problem in spain with pais vasco (basque region), and it is supposing years and years of terrorism. anyways, what is absolutely sure is that our govern will never let them give up being spanish. we cant say yes to them just because of terrorism! it is like admitting that it is possible to get things by beeing agressive and putting bombs. violence is never the way to get nothing

Vlad		08-Jan-2006 13:00
TOTUL PENTRU TARA NIMIC PENTRU NOI. ALL FOR THE MOTHERLAND, NEVER FOR US. THIS IS THE TEACHMENT OF CODREANU THE FOUNDATOR OF IRON GUARD. FEW WEEKS AGO WAS THE ANNIVERSARY OF HIS DEATH, BUT A GREAT MIND AND A GREAT HEART LIKE HIS WILL LIVE FOR EVER IN THE HEART AND IN THE MIND OF PATRIOT PEOPLES. NOT TURKEY IN EU, ONLY EURPEAN CHRISTIAN VALOURS.

Alex Belgrade		08-Jan-2006 01:30
Tirana, We do not have so many problems with Albanians in Albania, but we have a lot of problems with Albanians in Kosovo. They are out of control and hungry for blood. The Albanians in Albania should distance themselves from what Albanians in Kosovo are doing. Serbs in Kosovo are Europe's most endangered species, and yet the hypocrits in Brussels worry more about the rights of some animal species, and they ignore the suffering of human beings - of civilan ordinary Serbs in Kosovo, who can't go to school without armed escort, whose children cannot play safely, whose graves are destroyed, churches burned, looted and torn down, who have no freedom of movement, who are restricted to live in ghetos, who often have no electricity and virtually have no rights at all. We are very angry that Albanians came and took our land, which is what Kosovo is. We did not come to Tirana, you guys overflowed our borders during Tito's era and many Albanians from Albania settled in Kosovo illegally... and then you know the Albanian population growth rate. 10 to 15 children per family. We did not bomb the US and London. We did not attack Germany, Bulgaria, Hungary, Albania. And yet all those countries attacked us, some repeatedly, in WW 1, WW 2, in 1999, etc. We are promised a European future IF we give up on Kosovo. Why do we have to give up our most cherished land, for the sake of a European future? Why doesn't Spain GIVE AWAY the Basque region? Or why is Corsica not given independence? Why is it just Serbia that has to keep on sacrificing its lands? When will it stop?! The West has done so many bad things to Serbia, it's hard to comprehend.

Alex Belgrade		08-Jan-2006 01:17
From the press Serbian President Tadic visited Bratunac and Kravice in Bosnia to pay tribute to the Serbs that were murdered there during the war in Bosnia. On January 7, (on Orthodox Christmas), in 1993, Bosnian muslim forces under the command of Naser Oric (now in the Hague tribunal) massacred 49 Bosnian Serb civilians, wounding 86. More than 30 Serbian villages have been flattened to the ground, 750 homes were destroyed and 13 state owned factories. In total, 3, 280 Serbs have been killed in this region - Srebrenica, Bratunac, Kravice... This all happened BEFORE Bosnian Serb troops overran the town, committing the Srebrenica massacre of Muslims, that the world knows about. This happened WHILE this area, where Muslims were freely murdering Serbs, was a UN Protected Area. When Bosnian Serbs finally had enough, they overtook the town, unfortunately committing crimes of their own against the Muslims. Tadic had also payed tribute to the Muslim victims in Srebrenica of 1995, as well as to the Serbian victims of WW 2 at the Jasenovac Death Camp in Croatia. "All these are painful episodes from our past. Victims do not have nationality and religion. But, it is important that the world sees that Serbs have suffered greatly, and not just the other nations and ethnic groups", said Serbian President Boris Tadic. He also expressed hope that the Balkans will never again see such horrible tragedies and that the whole Balkan region will integrate itself into the EU as soon as possible. Meanwhile,. incidents in Kosovo continue as the first round of talks is scheduled to begin soon. In the latest "incident", on Orthodox Christmas Eve two men opened fire wounding two security officials of the municipal court in Gracanica. Gracanica is a town where the most important Serbian medieval monastery in Kosovo is located. This is one of the few ghetos in Kosovo where substantial Serb populations remain. Kosovo remains to be the most unsecure and criminalized region of all Europe. KFOR and UNMIK officials have said that the two suspects have been arested, giving no further details.

Alex Belgrade		08-Jan-2006 00:47
abichuga please let me know when exactly you will be planning a visit to Belgrade, so that we can arrange to get in touch and meet. I would love to show you around the city. By the time you leave, you will have changed all the prejudices that the Spanish people have towards Serbs. In most cases, tourists are shocked to see that Serbia is not what CNN had been portraying it to be for the past 15 years. Serbia is today a perfectly normal, struggling democracy in Europe, and considering what it has been through, it's actually doing rather well. My life as a Serb does not differ at all from your life as a Spanish, even though I have survived things you can not even begin to imagine. Most tourists end up liking Serbia and Belgrade for their energy, atmosphere, great food, wines, entertainment, nightlife and affordable prices, and above all, because of friendly and hospitable people. The Balkans have a specific atmosphere which the West cannot understand, until it is actually experienced. So, I welcome you to Belgrade!

Alex Belgrade		08-Jan-2006 00:27
Hi everyone. I am back after a while. I hope you all had a pleasant New Years celebration. To the Spanish visitor, You will be most welcome to Belgrade. The Balkan peoples have a long and turbulent history, often inter-twined and mixed - we have a history of territorial, ethnic and religious "disagreements", and hence all the bitching that goes on here, And of course, the Western people have been fed so much trash about Serbs over the past 15 years, so there are grudges and mistrusts on all sides. We are making progress. The Balkan peoples have improved their communication, as can be seen on this forum, and Westerners are again rediscovering Belgrade and Serbia. By the way I love Spain, the Spanish mentality and language. Tirana, I have checked out the site of the Albanian capital and I must say I am impressed by what I saw. This means that we all have prejudice about each other. You can also come visit Belgrade, just like everyone else. Provided that you do not carry any political or national symbols, you will be fine. If I were to visit Albania, I certainly would not bring the Serbian flag with me. By the way, in Kosovo on Orthodox Christmas Eve a bus full of passangers was shelled by Albanian attackers. Miraculously nobody died because the projectiles did not explode but damage was done to the bus and passangers were injured and suffered a lot of stress, as you can imagine. This went unreported on CNN. If Serbs had shelled a bus full of Albanians, it would have made the headlines on CNN. In the Croatian capital Zagreb an old Serb man (70 +) was attacked as he returned from Orthodox Christmas celebrations. Several weeks earlier, an old Serbian refugee who returned to Croatia was attacked by 2 Croatian youths who tied him up, beat him and forced a dog on him to rape him... These kinds of things get a silent treatment in Western media, and this is happening now, when there is no war, when Croatia is supposedly a democratic, pro-European country - but obvioulsy unable to shake its Nazi past. In Belgrade we have had the Catholic Christmas, the Jewish Hanukah, the Orthodox Christmas (January 7). Not a single incident anywhere. But all around Serbs are attacked. Doesn't that tell you anything? Serbs are wonderful people once you get to know them, and their way of life and thinking. But, we have been hurt by the West repeatedly even when we fought as Allies in both world wars. We have big mistrusts about the intentions of the Western governments, but ordinary Western people are always welcome in Belgrade. When Serbs are victims, the world is silent. And that just keeps on repeating. And it makes me very upset!

lee coleman		04-Jan-2006 15:00
i didnt buy new, i bought old type cottage houses , in montenegro i got a small place for 38 thousand euro thats about 29 thousand pounds ..a very good price . albania and montenegro are the only underdeveloped coast line left in the european med , so get in now before the germans and americans arrive . but i will look for myself on the coast line of albania this summer. elias your a clever guy cheers Lee.

Tirana		04-Jan-2006 12:05
Well Lee i don't know if you will make a good deal because prices are maybe higher than in Belgrade...For new appartments prices are around 1000€/m2 and they are still going up! What are the prices of new appartments in Belgrade? What about Montenegro?

motzis		04-Jan-2006 10:29
THE COMPLAINT CONCERNS THE USER OF YOUR SITE ELIAS HANTZAKOS ( WWW.PBASE.COM/ELIASHAN/BELGRADE ).IN HIS FORUM THERE ARE CONSTANT AGRESSION AND INSULTS BETWEEN USERS.SOME OF THEM IN THEIR POSTS WRITE PERSONAL DATA ABOUT OTHERS WITH EVERYTHING THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT MEANS.I TRIED TO COME TO CONTACT WITH THIS PERSON BUT HE DIDN'T REPLY.WE ASKED FROM HIM TO DELETE ALL THE POSTS THAT ARE IRRELAVANT AND THAT CONTAIN INSULTS AND PROVOCATIVE WORDS AS WELL AS REFERENCE TO PERSONS WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION.THIS USER COMPRISES A SHAME FOR YOUR AWESOME AND BEAUTIFUL SITE.WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO WARN HIM AND ASK FROM HIM TO DELETE OR EDIT ALL THESE POSTS.

Elias Hantzakos		04-Jan-2006 03:27
lee r u an asshole or something?! u look to me like a big liar and fag. @$@$ off

lee coleman		03-Jan-2006 19:45
hey tirana this web site of tirana is very very surprizing !! it looks really nice and i will be going for a visit for sure this coming summer , i already own property in montenegro and novi sad , i was looking to buy in belgrade but i will check out waterside property in albania first now ....this is the time to invest before EU acsession . cheers Lee.

Vlad		02-Jan-2006 22:36
WHEN A COUNTRY COME OUT FROM A TIRANNY THE FIRST EFFECT IS EMIGRATION. WE ALSO KNOW THIS FENOMEN, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT EVERY COUNTRY THAT IN THE PAST WAS IN THIS SITUATION AFTER BECOME DEVELOPED. I KNOW THE VALOURS OF MY PEOPLE AND THEREFORE I'M SURE THAT IN THE NEXT FUTUR WE'LL BE A DEVELOPED COUNTRY LIKE YOU. NEXT YEAR WE'LL BECOME A MEMBER OF EU AND WE'LL RECEIVE THE SAME FINANCIAL HELP THAT EU GAVE TO SPAIN SINCE 1986. I'M SURE THAT THE FUTUR OF BALKANS ARE IN EU AND WHEN BALKANS WILL BE DEVELOPED ALSO OUR OCCIDENTAL BROTHERS CAN SEE OUR QUALITY, AND NOT ONLY OUR NEGATIVE ASPECTS. AND IN EVERY CASE OUR EMIGRANTS LOVE THEIR MOTHERLAND. IN SPAIN FOR EXAMPLE ROMANIANS HAVE MANY CULTURAL ASSOCIATIONS AND OUR DIASPORA IS VERY UNITED. I THINK THAT YOU ALSO KNOW THIS ASPECT. NOW I WISH TO MY PEOPLE A NEW YEAR WITH SATISFACTIONS AND GLORY. YOU WANT TO CHANGE POINT OF VIEW ABOUT US, AND I'M GLAD TO HELP YOU ON THIS POINT. OUR COUNTRY IN EVERY CASE HAS A GOOD ECONOMICAL GROWTH BY 6 YEARS, AND IN OUR COUNTRYIS IN CONSTRUCTION THE MOST INFRASTRUCTURAL PROJECT OF EUROPE, "THE MOTORROAD OF TRANSILVANIA" AND WE HAVE A MASSIVE FOREIGN INVESTIMENT. MY AREA TIMISOARA HAVE ALMOST 10000 FOREIGN COMPANIES AND THE "MOTORROAD OF SUN" BETWEEN BUCHAREST AND CONSTANTA IS ALMOST COMPLETE AND IS VERY MODERN. OUR TOWNS HAVE MANY HYPERMARKET LIKE IN OCCIDENT (CARREFOUR, BILLA, MALL, KAUFLAND ECC...) AND WE EXPORT THIS YEAR DACIA LOGAN ALSO IN OCCIDENTAL COUNTRIES. SIBOI WILL BE CULTURAL CAPITAL OF EU IN 2007, NEXT YEAR WHEN WE COME IN EU. THESE POINTS ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF OUR PROGRESSES, BUT WE KNOE ALSO THAT THE WAY IS LONG. WELL ACHICHUGA, I WISH YOU AN HAPPY NEW YEAR, TO YOU AND OF COURSE ALSO TO THE REST OF EUROPE.

abichuga		02-Jan-2006 18:51
hey Vlad...i have never said that spanish hate the romanian inmigrants that come here!

Tirana		02-Jan-2006 13:10
Hello guys, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you... Well i see that you have written a lot since i came here last time...There are so many things that you don't or can't know about Albania and that you would discover only by living there. Anyways i want to insist on some points...even if the majority of Albania is of islamic religion we have a different point of view about that. I don't know how to explain it. Really people there don't care of religion. There are too few practioners. My father is a muslim who by the way knows nothing about his religion :) and my mother is an orthodox. For albanians religion is not important because of the comunism and you probably know that religion was stricly prohibited for 50 years. Alex i can't show you photos of Tirana because i'm not there right now but you have this galery where you can look at some of its viewshttp://www.shqiperia.com/foto/galeria/album23 Lee coleman, you can come whenever you want and nobody will hurt you. This summer even Serbs from Belgrade came there and they cooked for nearly a month serbian dishes in the center of Tirana and it was also broadcast in TV, so if nothing happend to them i don't see what could happen to you! Anyways for the details of your journey we may discuss later on, because it's still early. Really, by the things i see here, i think that i risk more if i come to Belgrade :). When i was in Budva (the majority of the people or tourists were serbian) we had no problem, but maybe because that they weren't home. I don't know...That wasn't the impression i had before coming into this website, anyways i think things will change with time... Stefan, don't worry we have internet connection. Lol...when i'm home i'll be 24/7 online just for you! ;)

Vlad		01-Jan-2006 16:10
LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA.

Vlad		01-Jan-2006 16:07
DEAR SPANISH, WE HAD A DISCUSSION IN THE PAST BUT NOW HOW CAN YOU SEE, WE STOP OUR RESPECTIVE PROVOCATIONS. IN SPAIN IS A WRONG IMAGE ABOUT ROMANIA BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF ROMANIANS THAT GO AWAY AREN'T ROMANIANS BUT GYPSY WHO LEAVE TO COMMIT THEIR CRIMES IN FOREIGN COUNTRY. THE SAME CAN BE ONSIDER ABOUT SERBIA, IN ITALY FOR EXAMPLE SLAVS OR YUGOSLAVS MEANING GYSPY, BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY AREN'T SERBIAN OR SLAVS BUT ONLY GYPSY. UNFORTUNATELY IN BALKANS THEY ARE VERY MUCH AND I'LL BE GLAD TO KILL THEIR RACES WHO DESTRY BALKAN AND ROMANIAN IMAGE IN EUROPE. WE ROMANIANS REALLY ARE A SERIOUS AND A GOOD PEOPLE WITH IMOPRTANT VALOURS LIKE PATRIOTTISM AND RELIGION AND SERBS ARE THE SAME. THEREFORE I SAY YOU OUR SPANISH FRIENDS, TO DON'T THINK BAD ABOUT ROMANIANS, BECAUSE IF YOU'LL COME IN NEXT FUTUR IN ROMANIA TO SEE OUR MEDIEVAL TOWNS, OUR CASTLES, OUR MEDIEVAL MONASTERY OF BUCOVINA, OUR DANUBE DELTA, OUR GOOD PEOPLES I'M SURE THAT YOU CHANGE IDEA ABOUT US. I KNOW MANY OCCIDENTAL PEOPLES WHO BEFORE TO COME HERE IN A TOUR HAD A BAD IDEA ABOUT US BUT THEY CHANGE IT AFTER THEY VISIT. WE ARE A PROUD PEOPLES, WE ROMANIANS ARE A GOOD PEOPLES AND WE HATE GYPSY MORE THAN YOU. I PERSONALLY WANT TO SEE THEM DEAD. COME IN ROMANIA ON A SUMMER, I'M SURE THAT YOU'LL LIKE OUR COUNTRY. HAPPY NEW YEAR!

abichuga		31-Dec-2005 17:15
hi everybody! i am a spanish student who will be soon travelling to belgrade. i was looking for some pictures of the city and fortunately i found this nice website that has given me a great idea about how the city is like, thanks! i have also been reading the argument between romanian Vlad and serb Alex and i have got really impressed. i mean, you are all from the same region, how is it possible that you think bad about each other? i could never imagine a spanish saying that portugal is mess, the same as i have never heard a french or a german say that spain is mess. we are all european, comparations are stupid. one of the reasons why i have chosen serbia as the country i will go is because i would like to realise by myself what is the reality there. everybody around me, think that serbia is such a poor and troubbled place to go, but i dont think they are rigth at all. most people here think that people from balkans is poor because we receive lots of romanians that are now living in our streets or doing the worst jobs. so i would like to change my point of view about both serbian and romanians. if you feel proud of this, i will tell you that belgrade has been chosen the city that next summer will receive medical students from all around the world on its every one year meeting.

motzis		27-Dec-2005 11:42
http://forum.pbase.com/viewtopic.php?t=17044&highlight=elias

Vlad		27-Dec-2005 11:06
MERRY CHRISTMAS. YES ALEX, I KNOW VERY WELL BALKAN SPIRIT. IN NEXT FUTUR I'M SURE THAT CHRISTIAN BALKAN WILL BE SPIRITUAL HEART OF EUROPE. MERRY CHRISTMAS ALSO TO YOU LEE, IN EVERY CASE I'M SURE THAT YOU ALSO LOVE THE MEANING OF CHRISTMAS. MERRY CHRISTMAS ALSO TO SERBS FROM KOSOVO. I WISH THEM TO HAVE A CHRISTMAS OF PEACE, AND I WISH THEM TO CAN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO GO IN FREEDOM IN THEIR HOUSE. AND WE HOPE FOR A NEW YEAR BETTER THAN THIS.

Alex Belgrade		24-Dec-2005 21:16
Merry Christmas to all those who celebrate it on Dec. 25 (Gregorian Calendar). I wish everyone a lot of love. LOVE LOVE LOVE Understanding. Sympathy. Fellowship. I wish GOOD to all human beings, regardless where they are. Peace on Earth and among Men.

motzis		22-Dec-2005 00:49
THE COMPLAINT CONCERNS THE USER OF YOUR SITE ELIAS HANTZAKOS ( WWW.PBASE.COM/ELIASHAN/BELGRADE ).IN HIS FORUM THERE ARE CONSTANT AGRESSION AND INSULTS BETWEEN USERS.SOME OF THEM IN THEIR POSTS WRITE PERSONAL DATA ABOUT OTHERS WITH EVERYTHING THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT MEANS.I TRIED TO COME TO CONTACT WITH THIS PERSON BUT HE DIDN'T REPLY.I ASKED FROM HIM TO DELETE ALL THE POSTS THAT ARE IRRELAVANT AND THAT CONTAIN INSULTS AND PROVOCATIVE WORDS AS WELL AS REFERENCE TO PERSONS WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION.THIS USER COMPRISES A SHAME FOR YOUR AWESOME AND BEAUTIFUL SITE.WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO WARN HIM AND ASK FROM HIM TO DELETE OR EDIT ALL THESE POSTS.

Alex Belgrade		21-Dec-2005 21:04
Dear Lee Coleman, I will give you several examples that God is not a fairy tale, like Santa. During the 1999 Nato bombing of Serbia, when the Chinese embassy was hit, all the windows of nearby buildings shattered to bits. Except one. It was a window in which was the "White Angel", from a famous fresco in Mileseva monastery. That was the only window that was intact. On many occassions, Serbian icons cried tears or blood. Usually before big disasters. Icons cried as Serbs were expelled from Krajina (now in Croatia), icons cried when Serbia was bombed by its former Allies in BOTH world wars... When a group of farmers was cutting a forest, as they cut one tree, they saw the face of St. Lazar (Serbian saint) and they stopped cutting the trees. Many Serbian Saints are known for their healing powers. Their resting places, usually in churches and monasteries, often emit a pleasant smell, like the smell of a thousand flowers. It's not a trick. I have seen it myself. Priests do not put anything, or spray anything, but the resting place of a Saint suddenly begins to emit a very pleasant smell which we in Serbia call "miro". A few years ago, all Indian temples across the world had an unexplained phenomenon. All the statues of a certain Indian God (I forget which one) started pouring milk. And that was no trick. The crews filmed the statues front and back and they were dry. Nothing was placed in them or around them. In all Indian temples all over the world, those Indian statues of a certain God started pouring milk. Etc. So, there is God. It may be called by various names by different cultures, it may be worhipped differently by various confessions, but to those who believe, God gives His presence known, and sends us warning signs.

Alex Belgrade		21-Dec-2005 20:51
Sorry, two messages went to the forum for Milica. Apologies. I had trouble sending the first one, so I typed another message, but both went to the forum... Dear Lee Coleman, I am not a blind -faith type of person. I am as modern as you are. But, you must understand that Western Europe,USA,Australia and Canada have all given up on God, and they will pay a price for that, sooner or later. That is not a good thing. I am a believer, my confession is Serbian Orthodox Church - it is a form of Christianity, independent since 1219. I am not a radical believer, not as the islamists value islam, but I do believe that a Higher Power is guiding everything. You say - we (in the West) are modern, we have progress, money, technology... and yet when a disaster strikes, such as 9-11, you see the churches filled with believers. Humans in the West are relaxed in their good life, but when there is trouble they go to churches and express prayers. But, you should not have Jesus on the mind only when there is trouble. The best thing for Europe would be to be modern AND to preserve Christianity - it can be done. It is NOT a good idea to loose Christianity and to accept Turkey in the EU. Suddenly the EU will have hundreds of millions of Muslims, who will quickly spread their religion and poverty, many of them will maybe end up as potential terrorists. My friend, that is NOT good for Europe. Stefan does not hate you, he just does not understand that we in the Balkans are different in mentality, in thinking, in the way of life, than the West. And vice versa. We may not have as much money as you, but I can guarantee you - we have a wider soul and a bigger heart. Nobody in the West can understand that. I am sure that Vlad from Romania understands the meaning of the term "Balkan spirit". Stefan hates Albanians and probably Croats, because of recent Balkan wars, but they hate us too, so it's kind of mutual. I doubt that he hates the British. He is just not able to deal with the differences between us. Mate, believe me, the world is deteriorating, in spite of all the progress, technology, good life... The planet is being polluted every day, there are many more wars in many places, there is much more greed, nations are losing their identities, there are tsunamis, earthquakes, landslides, volcanoes... deseases such as AIDS, Ebola, SARS, Mad Cow Desease, Bird Flu. Cows are no longer safe, nor are birds... There is cloning, gay marriages, abortions, etc. All the things that should not be happening, are happening. Satan is everywhere. The TV is full of crime and sex, teenagers in schools kill each other for no reason (killing spree), the US has the biggest number of detainees in prisons (in relation to total population). In short, there is a lot of shit around. And then you tell me - God has nothing to do with it. My friend, God has EVERYTHING to do with it. If we were all more considerate, more loving, more caring, more compassionate, more merciful, the world would be a better place. The world is rapidly getting worse. And it will get worse in the coming years and decades. Your money, cars, good life, will not save you. You did not come to this world with possessions. You will not leave this world with possessions. What you need is faith and love. And respect for an idea that has lasted 2000 years. Your Savior is the one you are renouncing now. Nobody and nothing else. We have had 60 years of communism - a Godless society. If it had lasted for another 60 years, Serbs would have totally lost their identity. A similar thing is happening to the West. It's not losing its identity because of communism, but because of globalization. I do not want to tell you what to do, but don't throw away God so easily. Leave a door in your heart open for faith. I wish you all the best, mate. Cheers.

Alex Belgrade		21-Dec-2005 20:22
Milica, Elias is our friend, he is Greek, he loves Belgrade which you can see by his gallery and all his comments regarding Serbia have been good. Maybe he believes in free speech. Maybe he does not know how to moderate, but he is not the enemy here. Cheers.

Alex Belgrade		21-Dec-2005 20:20
Milica, Elias is a Greek and he IS our friend. You can see that by his posts as well as by his photos of Belgrade. Maybe he believes in free speech, maybe he does not know how to moderate the forum. In any case, he is not our enemy here.

milica		20-Dec-2005 10:06
the system allows moderatos.i know it from other fora's galleries.the point is that this Elias doesn't want to intervene and he insists on insulting Serbia.I know that Greeks are friends,except of him

lee coleman		19-Dec-2005 21:08
you make a good point vlad , but please dont think i am defending muslims in any shape or form , dont forget i was on the tube system the day those bombs went off . it could off been me . its a sad fact that any where you get muslims in the world you will also get trouble and poverty . they are all mostly poor and uneducated ...that is why they follow religion with such passion , they have nothing else in there life (blind faith we call it in english) we as europeans have access to education and money , we strive to progress , improve , and innovate . the muslim world is going nowhere fast ...and we are always moving forward . keep it real .

Vlad		19-Dec-2005 19:25
I RESPECT YOUR VISION LEE, BUT ALSO IF YOU AREN'T CHRISTIAN, I THINK THAT YOU THINK THAT JESUS WAS A GREAT MAN. CHRSTIAN RELIGION IN EVERY CASE WAS ONE OF THE BASIC DRIVER OF DEVELOPMENT AND CIVILIZATION IN EUROPE AND IN THE WORLD. IN A CHRISTIAN SOCIETY WHO DON'T LOVE JESUS NOT IS PERSECUTED, BUT IN AN ISLAMIC SOCIETY WHO AREN'T MUSLIM IS KILLED. THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE. CHRISTIAN RELIGION ISN'T ONLY A SPIRITUAL VALOUR, IS ALSO A KIND OF CIVIL LIFE. WE EUROPEANS MUST BE PRIDE OF OUR RELIGION, WHY WE MUST ACCEPT ANOTHER RELIOGION (ISLAM) THAT TRY IN THE PAST TO SUBMIT US? IF WE DON'T DEFEND OUR VALUES LIKE ALSO CHRISTIAN RELIGION THIS MEANING THAT OUR GRANFATHER DEAD FOR NEVER IN THE PAST. WHILE CHRISTIAN WORLD THINK ONLY FOR MONEY AND FORGET JESUS, MUSLIMS ARE UNITED AND TRY TO DEFEAT OUR IDENTITY. WHAT YOU LIKE LEE? A CHRISTIAN SOCIETY WHERE YOU CAN SAY ALL THAT YOU WANT OR AN ISLAMIC SOCIETY WHERE IF YOU AREN'T MUSLIM YOU CAN BE BEHEAD?

lee coleman (london)		19-Dec-2005 18:30
vlad , its called google earth and its at least 2 years old now , but at least you have it now because its very interesting . i dont know who is worse stefan breeding hate or alex preaching religion . alex you cant be serious ?..... judgment day ...jesus who ? mate im not sure if you have noticed but its 2005 we live in a modern world now , god is something like santa claus you tell your children about and then when they grow up they find out for them selfs that its all just a story and make belive . if you ask me christian values are the same as muslim values ....total bollocks !! religion breeds hate , hate breeds religion . only the weak minded need a god , stand on your own feet and belive in yourself. keep it real .

Alex Belgrade		19-Dec-2005 17:18
Vlad, DELIJE is a fan group of the FC Red Star. The word means "heros" or something similar - it describes big, strong, brave men. The world is more archaic than it is used today.

Alex Belgrade		19-Dec-2005 17:14
CESTITAM VAM SLAVU SVETOG NIKOLU! Dragi Srbi i drage Srpkinje, cestitam Vam svima Svetog Nikolu. Neka zivi nasa lepa Srbija!

Alex Belgrade		19-Dec-2005 17:13
Dear Milica, I do not think this system allows moderators. I wish there was a moderator, because some people do not deserve to be here.

Milica		19-Dec-2005 11:24
Does this forum have any moderators or administrators ? I thought that this site was for photos not for immature political "discussions" and insults.Please if there are any moderators or administrators to delete or edit MOST of the posts in Elias' galleries.Elias you should be more careful.Your chat is a big insult to my country Serbia because you allow some anonymous guys to exchange insults for my country as well.Please someone to intervene here.

Vlad		18-Dec-2005 17:19
TO CHANGE SUBJECT: I CAN INSTALLED A PROGRAM THAT PERMIT ME BY SATELLIT TO SEE EVERY CITIES OF THE WORLD. ITS NAME IS GOOGLE HART. I SAW ALSO BELGRADE, I CAN TO SEE THE STADIUM OF RED STAR WHERE WAS POSSIBLE TO SEE THE CHYRILLIC WRITE "DELIJA" (WHAT'S MEANING?), NEAR TO THIS STADIUM I SAW ALSO ANOTHER WHERE I SAW IN ITS TRIBUNE THE LATIN WRITE "PARTIZAN". IT'S INCREDIBLE! BY THIS PROGRAM I CAN TO SEE ALSO THE BUILDING, THE CARS, THE ROADS OF EVERYPLACE OF THE WORLD.

Vlad		18-Dec-2005 17:13
YES ALEX, BOSNIA AND ALBANIA ARE TWO COUNTRIES WHO MUST CONSIDERED WITH ATTENTION BECAUSE THEIR EVENTUAL INTEGRATION IN EU CAN BE OPEN THE WAY TO TURKEY WHO GIVE ITS CITIZENSHIP TO CHECHENS, TURKMENS, AZERIANS , UZBEKS WHO ARE TURKOFON PEOPLES, FOR A NUMBER OF ALMOST 350MILLIONS, THIS MEANING THAT TURKEY IN EU CAN PERMIT TO 350MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS TO BECOME EUROPEAN CITIZENS, THEREFORE THEY CAN TO DEFEAT OUR CHRISTIAN EUROPEANS VALOURS. UCK TERRORISTS BEHEAD PEOPLES LIKE AL QAEDA IN IRAK, AND ALIJA IZETBEGOVIC WITH HIS MUJAHEDDIN COMMITTED IN BOSNIA MANY CRIMES. IN SKOPJE A CHRISTIAN TOWN OF A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY, ALBANIANS BECOME MORE THAN MAKEDONIAN, AND NOW THAT TOWN IS LIKE ANKARA OR TIRANA. NOW ALSO PRISTINA UNFORTUNATELY CAN BECOME AS TIRANA. SERBIAN PEOPLES OF KOSOVO REMAIN ONLY IN NORTH OF KOSOVO. MUSLIMS WANT TO CHANGE EUROPEAN CHRISTIAN IDENTITY, AND USA ARE GLAD FOR THIS THING HOW SHOWING THEIR HELP TO TURKISH REQUEST FOR EU'S INTEGRATIONS.

Alex Belgrade		18-Dec-2005 16:01
Vlad, You have made some good points. Europe should be Christian, not Muslim, and now Germany, France, UK etc are becoming more Muslim than Christian. If Europe wants to remain Christian and to preserve its identity, it should help Serbs keep Kosovo, a symbol of Serbian Orthodox Church (Christianity) instead of taking Kosovo away from Serbs and turning it into another Albanian (mainly Islamic) state.

Vlad		18-Dec-2005 11:06
HELLO ALEX, FINNALLY YOU'RE GO BACK. HOW YOU CAN SEE THIS FORUM IS A PLACE FOR MANY ARGOUMENTS. I ALSO SAY BEFORE TO STEFAN THAT TIRANA ISN'T AN UCK TERRORIST AND THE WAR OF KOSOVO ISN'T HIS FAULT, BUT HE ANSWER ME WITH A SERIOUS QUESTION: IF SOMEBODY WANT TO STEAL A PART OF MY COUNTRY WHAT I CAN TO DO? AND AFTER A UNDERSTAND HIS ANGRY AGAINST ALBANIAN LEADERSHIP OF KOSOVO AND AGAINST USA. I UNDERSTAND HIM BECAUSE, WHILE AN HYPOCRITE MAN KIKE RUGOVA IS CALLED THE "GANDHI FROM BALKANS", HIS UCK TERRORISTS BEHEAD SERB PEOPLE OF KOSOVO. I UNDERSTAND STEFAN BECAUSE, MANY SYMBOL OF CHRISTIAN EUROPEAN HISTORY LIKE SERBIAN CHURCHES OF KOSOVO ARE DESTROYED WHILE SOLANA (ANOTHER HYPOCRITE) ASK SERBS TO DON'T LEAVE KOSOVO. FOR ALBANIANS WAS VERY SYMPLE TO MAKE MANY SOONS AND TO BECOME MORE NUMEROUS THAN SERBS, BUT BY THIS WAY THEY TRY TO TAKE ALSO MAKEDONIA (REMEMBER TETOVO) AND ANOTHER PART OF SERBIA LIKE PRESEVO, MEDVEDJA AND BUJANOVAC BY A NEW UCK (UCPMB). I KNOW HERE IN TIMISOARA MANY SERBS STUDENT WHO TELK ME ABOUT TORTURES COMMITTED BY UCK AGAINST SERBIAN PEOPLE OF KOSOVO. UCK MAKE THE SAME HORRORS OF TURKS OTTOMAN, AND TRY TO MAKE AN ISLAMIC KOSOVO. IN THE PLACE WHERE NOW ARE SERBIAN CHURCHES, IN NEXT FUTUR IF NEVERYBODY DEFEND SERBIAN PEOPLES, WILL BE ONLY MOSQUES. CHRISTIANITY IS A VALOUR OF EUROPE, AND A REAL EUROPEAN CAN'T ACCEPT THE ETHNIC GENOCIDE COMMITTED BY UCK AND RUGOVA AT THE PRESENT. HERE IN ROMANIA , WHILE OUR PRECEDENT GOVERNMENT HELP US TO BOMB SERBIA, WE ROMANIANS WASN'T AGREE, AND YOU MUST KNOW THAT MANY ROMANIANS OF OUR NATIONALISTS PARTY CAME IN KOSOVO LIKE VOLOUNTAIRES TO HELP SERBIAN PARAMILITAR TROOPS TO DEFEAT UCK. AT THE PRESENT ALEX, WE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT IS IN ACT A NEW OTTOMAN ISLAMIC AGGRESSION AGAINST BALKAN, ITS NAME IS UCK. SEE YOU LATER, PROBABILY GO BACK ALSO STEFAN.

Alex Belgrade		18-Dec-2005 10:37
Correction should be --- Bosnia, the birthplace of St. Sava - the biggest Serbian SAINT Sorry

Alex Belgrade		18-Dec-2005 10:35
Those of you that believe in Judgment Day know that the Second Coming of Christ is near, which is evident by the events in the world. Look at all the wars, the greed, the evil all around us - the sects, drugs, crime, etc... look at all the immorality preached by Western media... and then look at all the floods, tsunamis, ecological disasters, volcanoes, earthquakes... seems like we do not have much time to repent. And when Judgment Day does come, all things will be set straight. Believers will be separated from non-believers, truth will be separated from lies, and God will fix it so that Kosovo, some day, somehow, will again be Serbian. Stefan Serb, with so much pain and anger you talk about the Albanians taking away the heart of our land, Kosovo. What about Bosnia, Hercegovina, Montenegro, Macedonia, Krajina (Slavonia, Baranja, Lika, Kordun etc)? You forget that Tito gave Baranja to Croatia, that he created Macedonian Republic, Macedonian and Montenegrin Orthodox Church and all the other stuff. Now Croatia is independent and almost 0 Serbs live there. Bosnia is also independent - the birtplace of St. Sava, the biggest Serbian state. Macedonia, the home of Tzar Dusan, is also independent... Montenegro, always a Serbian state, now gets Western money to be independent and probably will become independent... Etc. The West has decided to break us. Territorially, economically, morally and psychologically. But, they will fail, as have the others before them. We are losing bits and pieces of all our Lands, to which we are connected through history. Kosovo is the most important Land of all Lands, for Serbs. But, we should not grief ONLY for Kosovo... So, don't just say that the Albanians took our Kosovo. Croats and Bosnian Muslims took centuries of Serbian Lands and history - what has never been theirs. With the help of the West, to which we are now sucking up to. We need to strengthen our faith, only then will things get better. EU is a false prophet. It preaches tolerance etc and yet it has distanced itself from Christian values. It promotes things like sects, homosexual marriages, abortion etc. That kind of Europe is NOT our savior. We should know from history that we were the strongest when we had faith, and that we always had to rely on ourselves for salvation, rather than foreign countries and powers. We would not have withstood the 500 years of Ottoman rule if we did not have faith. We would not have withstood the Croatian genocide if we did not have faith. Etc. So, the answer is not in believing that European Union will come and save us. It will be only a phacade, they want to take away our resources and identity. The real salvation comes if the entire Europe rediscovers its faith in the Allmighty Lord Jesus Christ. We have preserved our faith much more than the West, but we need to do more. That is THE ONLY WAY. Everything else is fake, false and will not last.

ALEX Belgrade		18-Dec-2005 10:11
Stefan Serb, I have been away for a while, and I see I have not missed anything important. Seems like Stefan Serb and Tirana have totally privatised this site, and once in a while, some others join in with the insults. That's crazy. Stefan Serb, your comments about the British do not stand. It is a completely different society than ours, you just have to understand that, rather than insult everyone who comes to this site. The EU is suppoosed to be a tolerant place, but you have so little tolerance. Just remember that the Balkans and the EU are different worlds, and that's it. You are right, the British police is guarding those islamists who preach open hate against all Europeans. And when those bombs went off in London, everyone was surprised (in Britain). Why were they surprised? They let the Beast right into their country. They gave the Beast citizenships, social benefits, they let the Beast enroll into Oxford, become prominent members of society, and... boom. The Beast showed its true face. Also in New York on 9-11, also in Madrid, and most recently in France, where a state of emergency was declared in towns across France. Europe should really wake up, return to Christianity and kick all those islamists out. Otherwise, there will be a lot more trouble. I do not wish to insult anyone. I just think that Western Europe should totally re-examine its foreign and immigration policy. As for foreign policy, get the fuck out of Iraq etc. Leave Iraq to the Iraqis. As for the immigration policy, did you know that France has the biggest number of Muslims and mosques, followed by Germany and probably England... Why the FUCK would anyone want those islamists around? Europe has lost its ties with Christianity, has distanced itself from God completely and that is why I predict huge bloodshed and troubles in Western Europe. On the other hand, Serbia is returning to God and religion here is very strong. Only faith in God will save us. Not the European Union, or anything like that. As for Stefan and Tirana, please stop, you have made us all bored with your arguments. Stefan, have you ever considered the fact that not every Albanian belongs to UCK? Could you two PLEASE stop this silly bullshit that has made people run away from this site? By the way, Tirana, please make a site about Tirana, I would love to see the gallery. We all have prejudices. From what I have heard, Tirana is a very poor place. But, prove me wrong. Make a gallery of your city and let us see it. Only then will we know what it's really like. Here is something all of you should know. Serbs are a tough little nut to crack. We have withstood 500 years of brutal Islamic terror, we have fought on the right side in both World Wars, as opposed to Croats, Albanians... We have suffered enormously during those wars. We have withstood Croatian and Nazi genocide, Nazi and Allied bombings, we were the first in Europe to openly dare say FUCK YOU to Hitler when everyone else was quiet, we survived communism, we survived the sanctions and the Nato bombings, led by the US and Britain. We are a tough people and we are very resourceful. So, those that think they should mess with Serbs, should think twice. You should better have us as friends, than as enemies. EUROPE, PUT A FINGER ON YOUR HEAD AND THINK. YOU DO NOT HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT TO SAVE YOUR SOUL.

lee coleman (london)		16-Dec-2005 21:03
hey tirana i have a serious question for you ,this summer i will be back in serbia with my wife and i was thinking to take a visit to albanian capital city by myself just to check it out as i am very well travelled in the balkans but have never been to albania , thing is i look like a westerner or even a serb for that matter , i have fair hair and eyes etc , do you think its safe as i dont want to be mistaken for a serb and get into bother . when i am in novi sad i always go down to belgrade to see friends and i get treated like a king down there so i was wondering what albania would be like for a new zealand /englishman these days . cheers .

Vlad		16-Dec-2005 17:53
YES STEFAN I UNDERSTAND YOU NOW. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO EXCUSE WHO STOLE A PART OF YOUR COUNTRY. MOTHERLAND IS LIKE AN HEART, WHEN A PART OF IT IS LOSED, A PATRIOT CAN ONLY TO FIGHT AGAINST ALL ENEMIES. THEREFORE I SUGGEST YOU SERBS TO REMAIN IN KOSOVO AND ALSO TO COME MASSIVE THERE TO MAKE AN EQUAL ETHNIC SITUATION. NEVER CAN STEAL WHAT A PEOPLE HAS SINCE IT EXIST. I WISH YOU MY ORTHODOX BROTHER TO DON'T WORRY BECAUSE IN A DAY SERBIAN PEOPLE WILL HAVE JUSTICE LIKE SAYS HIS ANTHEM BOZE PRAVDE, IT MEANING THAT IN A DAY KOSOVO GO BACK TO ITS MOTHERLAND.

Guest		16-Dec-2005 17:10
I hate him because he is an Albanian, if your country had lost its holy historical land where your first state was founded I don't think you would like to many Albanians. I hate all Albanians in general, because we let them in to our country to give them a better life than that they would have got in Albania, we took sympathy to them. And today, this is how they repay us, I can never trust an Albanian or look one in the face again. Even when I hear the word Albania I fill with rage. Peace to you my Orthodox brother.

Vlad		16-Dec-2005 15:27
WHY THIS WAR AGAINST TIRANA STEFAN? I ALSO HATE UCK, BUT HE ISN'T ONE OF THEM. HE IS ONLY A BOY WHO ASK YOU SOMETHINGS ABOUT BELGRADE AND HE ALSO SAYS THAT HE LOVE YOUR CAPITAL AND YOUR COUNTRY. I UNDERSTAND YOUR ANGRY AGAINST UCK AND ALSO AGAINST SOME ALBANIANS, BUT TIRANA IS A BOY LIKE US (I'M 22 AND I THINK THAT YOU ALSO ARE THE SAME) WHOAMMITTED IN A PRECEDENT COMMENT THAT ALBANIANS HAVE THEIR BAD PEOPLES BUT NOT ALL ARE AS UCK. I THINK THAT KOSOVO IS A SERB REGION AND THAT USA AND ALBANIA WANT TOP STOLE IT BUT, THE FAULT IS OF USA AND UCK AND NOT OF TIRANA. IN EVERY CASE I ALSO THINK THAT ALBANIA MUST BECOME CHRISTIAN BEFORE TO COME IN EU. AN EUROPEAN COUNTRY MUST BE CHRISTIAN.

Guest		16-Dec-2005 14:32
You idiot, read my comments from 13-Nov-2005 00:26 you dickshit, i only dislike London, everywhere outside of London in England is great. I love France, Germany, Spain, Italy and Greece. You infidel, i would love to come and see your shitty village of a city, but I am scared of being bundled into a car in broad daylight and trafficked abroad like 30000 others. You are funny, what is the main type of car in Belgrade, there is every type on Earth, but I can assure you that our main mode of transport in Belgrade is not donkey and cart like your wonderful Tirana. I was correct, I didn't think you could have an internet connection in Tirana hahaha. Bye asshole.

Tirana		16-Dec-2005 08:39
Yes you are living all around Europe but you don't like it, so why do you mention that? You show off for things you don't like...lol... Do you have a fish memory Stefan? Well i'm studying abroad for the moment, but don't worry i'll go back to Albania...you may come too if you want, nobody will hurt you just because you're serb... Tell me something about Belgrade now, what's the most common vehicle type? Are the yougoslavian car's yet producted?

Guest		15-Dec-2005 18:43
Hahahaha, you think you are funny but at the end of the day you live in shitty Albania and I living all around Europe (mostly Serbia) so enjoy your shit life, I am even surprised you have an internet connection hahhahaha. Suck Balls And Die, Bye.

Tirana		15-Dec-2005 12:09
Serbia 12-Dec-2005 12:03 Hey Albanians Why are you on this site, when you hate the Serbians. You should go and create your site about the monuments in Tirana HAHAHA sorry i forgot that there are no monuments. Just self-made houses without canalisation. The only nice buildings are the mosques-which are payd from Saudi-Arabia. So take a look at Belgrade and then at Tirana-yes it will make you angry, because you see that Belgrade is a big city with history and Tirana a poor village. You should think about this..... Serbia if you had followed the discussion from the beginning you would have seen that i don't hate Serbia...My answer was exclusively for my racist stefan, who by the way, doesn't like black people either. It is true that there aren't too much munuments in Tirana because it is relatively a new city (1920s), but i find it as beautiful as Belgrade. You may take a look if you want..http://www.shqiperia.com/foto/galeria/album23 Lee coleman, i didn't say that London backs the independance of Kosovo, i just said that they suppoorted the NATO operations in Kosovo...so don't make me say the things that i didn't. Bye Stefan, you're angry as well today? ;)

Vlad		14-Dec-2005 19:51
THE FOUNDATOR OF IRON GUARD, CORNELIU CODREANU SAYS THAT A REAL MAN MUST REPLY TO ALL ATTACK. HE SAYS ALSO TO SEE IN EYES OF OUR ENEMY WITH COURAGE. THIS IS THE TEACHMENT THAT I SUGGEST TO NEW EUROPEAN CHRISTIAN GENERATION FOR THE PRESENT AND THE FUTUR.

Vlad		14-Dec-2005 19:46
THE PROBLEM OF KOSOVO'S FUTUR IS THAT SERBS ARE ONLY 50000. IF SERBS GET OUT FROM KOSOVO, UCK WILL TAKE FULL CONTROL OF THAT REGION. THE SOLUTION MUST BE THAT SERBS BEGIN TO COME MASSIVE IN KOSOVO AND THEY WILL MAKE UP NUMEROUS FAMILIES, TO DEFEAT ALBANIAN ETHNIC SUPERIORITY. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO TAKE AGAIN YOUR REGION, IF YOU LOSE KOSOVO, ALSO HUNGARIANS OF VOJVODINA WHO HAVE THE HELP OF THEIR NATIONALIST FORMATION AS FIDESZ, CAN ASK INDEPENDENCE. EXIST THE RISK OF A NEW ETHNIC EXCAMOTAGE. IN KOSOVO IS PRESENT ALSO A WAR OF RELIGION, BUT STUPID MEN AS GIULIANO AMATO AND JAVIER SOLANA THINK THAT INDEPENDENCE OF KOSOVO IS THE ONLY AND BETTER SOLUTION. STEFAN YOU MUST TO KNOW THAT IF OUR GOVERNMENT OF 99 HAD AGREE THE WAR AGAINST SERBIA, OUR PEOPLE WASN'T AGREE. YOU. ALSO MUST TO KNOW THAT OUR VOLOUNTARY MILITIANS CAME WITH VOLOUNTAR FROM ANOTHER ORTODOX COUNTRIES LIKE GREECE, RUSSIA AND BULGARIA TO HELP YOUR ARMY IN KOSOVO. NOW ONLY POLITIC CAN RESOLVE THIS PROBLEM. I WISH YOU TO DON'T LOSE KOSOVO. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD

Guest		14-Dec-2005 17:58
Don't fred Vlad, UCK are shit, they are weak and can do absolutely nothing, we crushed them in a matter of days when we sent out troops to Kosovo. When Kosovo gets independence, they will gain control and fuck it up even further to be like Albania, then the people will be getting what they asked for, living in a shithole. LONG LIVE EUROPA

Vlad		14-Dec-2005 09:51
UI ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT UCK IS A FROMATION WHO RECEIVE MONEY BY AL QAEDA LIKE JAMAL ISLAMYA, ISLAMIC BROTHERS AND CHECHENIAN TERRORIST GROUP. ALSO IN THIS OUR CONTINENT THE DANGER OF ISLAMIC IRREDENTISM IS PRESENT.

Vlad		14-Dec-2005 09:49
THE ENEMIES OF CHRISTIAN EUROPE ARE THE IMAMS WHO CALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST TO BEGIN A RELIGIOUS WAR. IN ENGLAND IMAMS ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS TERRORIST COMMANDERS. THEREFORE I THINK THAT EU MUST TO CONSIDER CHRISTIANITY AS AN EUROPEAN VALOUR, BECAUSE THIS CONTINENT IS A SYMBOL OF THIS RELIGION. TURKEY IN EU AND IMAMS WANT TO DEFEAT THIS VALOUR BUT IF EUROPEAN PEOPLE WAKE UP, ALSO EUROPEAN INSTITUTIONS WILL MARCH WITH US. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD

Guest		13-Dec-2005 19:47
You prick, you don't even read my comments, you just confirmed your stupidity by failing to reply to my comments. I would stand up for myself at any time if someone is fucking me up, I have told you that I can handle myself and you.

lee coleman (london)		13-Dec-2005 19:38
and the worst thing is that you have been to new zealand !! i cant belive it !! i am a kiwi who lives in london ( 10 years) and you talk shit about black guys and how no one stands up to them in london bla bla and all your other total crapp ....ill bet you all the money in the world you wouldnt say a fucken word to a maori or pacific island guy if he was doing something you didnt like . you know its true .

Guest		13-Dec-2005 19:22
It is also great how Muslim infidels such as Abi Hamza and other cunts can preach racial hatred outside Finchley Park Mosque about how all Muslim brothers should unite and kill Christian and Whites, and do you know who is guarding him? English police are guarding that piece of shit when they should be cutting his throat. Why doesn't he go back to his great country that he speaks of so proudly, oh, I guess its because they will kill him. England gives him refuge and he publicly preaches hatred against it. What's even worse is that all the Mosques are funded by taxpayers money and government, that the police that guard and escort him are also payed for by the taxpayer. You don't understand that the Muslims have more rights than you, I have seen in my own eyes, if a black or Muslim calls an Englishman a 'White boy', nothing is thought of it, but if such a comment was returned such as 'Nigger' or 'Immigrant' or 'Arab', all hell breaks loose and the whites get done. Listen to me, you know I speak nothing but the truth as I have seen it with my own eyes.

Guest		13-Dec-2005 19:12
Also, another thing I know, when race problems begin to surface in London, and riots ensue, it will be a bloody conflict I can tell you that, River Thames will be red.

Guest		13-Dec-2005 19:10
Don't be anfry at me, I speak the truth, and in New Zealand there is a much more effective multi-cultural environment, with less crime and better living standerds. I am currently in London, and I hate this fucking place, it is full of filth, all blacks and other ethnics do is cheap tax and claim benefits, such as Somalis. There are so many of non-whites here, I would say it is around 50-50 ratio. I talk mainly of English Government and it's poor low restriction laws not of ordinary Brits on the street, they can't do anything about it. Laws are so pathetic in England, and you know it is true, just pay close attention to black community as you pass them on the street their behaviour etc. Maybe for you it is normal but for me from an almost all white city (Belgrade) it is very unusual. We have a few black people in Belgrade and they are treated respecfully and are all normal people, for they know if they step out of line our Police will sort them out. So what is out of line you may ask? Well, seeing someone wearing their trousers at their knees and walking as if they have a limp to intimidate people is out of line. Wearing a hooded jacket with the hood up in the Summertime when it is roughly 30'C to intimidate youngers it out of line. Happy slapping innocent people on buses and transport is out of line and you know yourself that these things are extremely common in London performed by the black community. Why are the worst areas of London all majority black neighbouhoods? Such as Neasden, Peckham, Harlesdon, White City and other parts of East London? Ask yourself this mate, and I hope all Serbs pay attention to this message because in Serbia most people feel sorry for Black people because they think they are treated unequal and they are subject to racial discrimination like in 1930's Deep South. If only, they knew that the vast majority of Black people (not all) especially late teens are theifs, criminals and menaces to society. And mate, when Serbia was under Communism, we didn't have graffiti in our cities like now, we didn't have bullshit petty crime and that crap that terrorises Western cities today. No mate, not until you fuckers came with your Democracy bullshit that is still tearing our country apart now!! And some people have asked me in England where I am from, and I reply Serbia, they say to me "Serbee-what? Where is that? Somewhere near India" No lie, that is the honest truth, and I am not scared of anyone, I hold a third degree brown belt in Karate and am soon going for my Black belt grading, I can handle myself, and certainly you for that matter. Good night.

lee coleman (london)		13-Dec-2005 18:48
and the worst thing is that you have been to new zealand !! i cant belive it !! i am a kiwi who lives in london ( 10 years) and you talk shit about black guys and how no one stands up to them in london bla bla and all your other total crapp ....ill bet you all the money in the world you wouldnt say a fucken word to a maori or pacific island guy if he was doing something you didnt like . you know its true .

lee coleman (london)		13-Dec-2005 18:33
first of all , england does not and will not support an independent kosovo (dont belive what you read in your albanian news papers)..so tirana you are wrong about that sorry , but i agree with you on other subjects . second , stefan serb you must really be some kind of thick wanker ... the english are cowards because some youth gangs in london graffiti on bus shelters ? in every city in every country in the world there are poor suburbs with youth gangs that cause trouble ....try to understand that london has 10 million people in it and belrade has 1.5 million ...yes , there are more people in my city than in the whole of serbia so of course there would be more crime and many different races and cultures all living together in mostly peace . i will be back in belgrade in may of 06 and i would really like to meet you because i have never meet any one who would really belives the english are cowards ...it will be interesting .

Guest		13-Dec-2005 17:58
Oh Shut up Tirana, you are an Albanian piece of shit and you know deep down that your nation is the scum of Europe and one of the lesser developed countries in the World, not to even mention the state of your mentality, Greater Albania, I wipe my ass on your shitty maps. You will never succeed in taking our land, we will come back when you least expect it and fuck you up mate. Anyway, I have now subsribed to Pbase.com and I now have 3 galleries: Belgrade, New Zealand and Tairua on my page so feel free to visit anytime (not you Shiptar). http://www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/root Click on the picture to enter the gallery. Thanks, bye. Stefan SERB

Serbia		12-Dec-2005 12:03
Hey Albanians Why are you on this site, when you hate the Serbians. You should go and create your site about the monuments in Tirana HAHAHA sorry i forgot that there are no monuments. Just self-made houses without canalisation. The only nice buildings are the mosques-which are payd from Saudi-Arabia. So take a look at Belgrade and then at Tirana-yes it will make you angry, because you see that Belgrade is a big city with history and Tirana a poor village. You should think about this.....

Tirana		12-Dec-2005 10:57
My Dear racist Stefan, I have noticed that you wish long life to Europe. What do you know about Europe? Have you ever asked yourself why the EU was created? Its main purpose was to bring back peace amongst the european countries and this is something you can't understand, because all you say is related to war, racism and nationalism. So don't come in here and wish long life to Europe, because Europe is something that you wouldn't have liked! ;) Don't relate all this with religion neither because Europe doesn't give a shit about that! France is a good exemple! You are blaming Croatia, but they will join the EU before you do... ;) And finally Englishmen are not cowards because history has always proven it, they just respect others more than you could ever imagine. I have a vague idea of why you don't like them...Is it because of their position about Kosovo? Yes, yes that's it! Well you just realised that the world isn't following your deepest wishes, fortunately. Oh yes, a 21 year old Albanian is fooling you around with no insults. Don't get mad! ;)

Oleg		11-Dec-2005 22:10
Hey. I like your site very much. I was once in Belgrade when I was very little. I can't remember the city, but I would like to come back again. Very impressive buildings! What I disslike: I'm a half Serb but even that, I don't have to tell Croatians or Albanians what they deserve or what stupid guys they are. If God want's to punish them, he will do it. I think the best way for Serbia and Serbians to show how good they are is to show that we are more civillized than croatians and Albanians. We can be nationalists but we shouldn't become cetniks!! Greez from Zurich...

Guest		10-Dec-2005 15:40
It is irrelevant whether he is a Croat or an Albanian, his mind is twisted and he is insulting Serbs. He will get what he deserves. LONG LIVE EUROPA!!

Vlad		09-Dec-2005 20:49
I'M SURE THST USTASA ISN'T CROATIAN, HE IS ALBANIAN, BECAUSE HE GLORIFY AN ALBANIAN KOSOVO. USTASA LISTEN ME: IF YOU ARE AN EUROPEAN, A CHRISTIAN, A MAN YOU MUST FORGET THE HATE AGAINST SERBIA AND YOU MUST DEFEND A CHRISTIAN EUROPEAN SYMBOL LIKE SERBIAN MONASTERY IN KOSOVO. IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN AND AN EUROPEAN YOU CAN'T GLORIFY A KOSOVO IN THE HANDS OF ISLAMIC UCK TERRORISTS. UCK ARE THE OTTOMANS OF THE PRESENT AND EVERY EUROPEAN CHRISTIAN MUST TO BE AGAINST UCK. PATRIOTISM, CHRISTIANITY AND PRIDE ARE THE EUROPEAN VALOURS, NO ONLY MONEY. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD

Guest		09-Dec-2005 18:19
Usatasa, you are funny, you fucker, we killed many of your kind, your women pussy are all swollen because of us, DEATH TO ALBANIA!!

Guest		09-Dec-2005 18:17
By the way, Tirana, all people in England are cowards, they only racist in big groups, they are pussies by themselves, they take stick from everyone but never do anything in return, you should see the way black people act here, rob people, hang around in the gangs graffitying bus stations, vandalising cars and the English just take it without anything in return , pure cowards. They are all stupid, they do not realise that the Muslims are so powerful and can say or do what they want here, they have more rights than the English. HAHAHAHAHA!! YOU PIECE OF SHIT DEATH TO ALBANIA!!

Guest		09-Dec-2005 18:12
Andrija, Why are you bringing a fellow Serb into conflict? It is because of filth like you that Serbia is in the poor economic position it is in now, you were probably rioting outside the Federal Parliament in 1999 you fucker! You pussy, Chetnik and Communist era are all over, don't live in the past, you are a pussy, nothing more. Go fuck your self you cocksucker, go and wank over Prince of Serbia. DEATH TO ALBANIA, AND TO USELESS SERBS WHO RUINED US!! LONG LIVE EUROPE!!

Tirana		09-Dec-2005 12:50
Hahaha Stefan, you're sill acting like a child! Aren't there any prostitutes or criminals in Serbia? I'm sure there are, so why do you make a big deal about albanian drug dealers? I'm sure that Serbian people would be ashamed of you, a racist, nothing more! Well, all i wish to you is not to suffer the racism of other people, cause i'm sure that there are a lot of them in England.

Vlad		09-Dec-2005 10:34
USTASA, FUCK YOU AND ANTE GOTOVINA. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD.

Vlad		09-Dec-2005 10:33
STEFAN, OUR ANCIENT MONASTERY ARE A SYMBOL OF OUR HISTORY AND TRADITIONS, THEREFORE I'M VERY SORRY TO SEE EVERY DAY IN TV, UCK DESTROY SERBIAN MONASTERY IN KOSOVO. IF EUROPE LOVE ITSELF IT MUST DEFEND SERBIAN MONASTERY. I'M NOT SPEAK ABOUT EUROPEANS CORRUPT INSTITUTIONS BUT I SPEAK ABOUT EUROPEAN CHRISTIAN PEOPLE WHO MUST TO DEFEND SERBIAN MONASTERY. WHILE BRUXELLES THINK ONLY FOR EU'S BUDGET, A SYMBOL OF CHRISTIANITY (SERBIAN MONASTERY) IS DESTROYED BY UCK (TURKS OTTOMAN OF 2000). PATRIOTISM, CHRISTIANITY AND PRIDE THESE MUST BE EUROPEANS VALOURS NOT ONLY MONEY.

Andrija		09-Dec-2005 01:34
vlad,stefan,tirana and ustasa they all love Serbian Chetnik d*** to suck and play with,GOOD BUY GOTOVINA,ha ha! Greece&Serbia forever!

USTASA		08-Dec-2005 22:06
STEFAN AND VLADA YOUR MOTHERS CAME TO KATERINI BEFORE YOU WERE BORN SENT ME A FOTO OF YOU BECAUSE MAYBE I AM YOUR FATHER FUCK SERBIAAAAAAAAA KOSOVA IS ALBANIAN UCK UCK UCK UCK

NATO		08-Dec-2005 22:03
SERBIAN MOTHER FUCKERS BRING YOUR WOMAN TO KATERINI FOR US TO FUCK THEM

Guest		08-Dec-2005 21:12
Thank you Vlad, I also have seen the galleries you have suggested and they are great, lovely architecture in Sibiu and Sighisoara. Nothing though beats the monasteries in Moldavia which has centuries old frescoes covering all sides of the outside walls. It is hard to believe the elements has not washed them away. Thanks for your comments regarding my gallery and yes it is my site. See you later...Long Live Europe!!

Vlad		08-Dec-2005 19:00
HELLO STEFAN, HAVE YOU SAW THE GALLERIES THAT I SUGGEST BEFORE? I SAW YOURS AND I WAS IMPRESSED. THAT WEB SITE IS YOURS? I SEE THAT YOU CONTUNUE YOUR WAR AGAINST TIRANA, BUT I THINK THAT HE ISN'T RESPONSABLE FOR THE WAR OF KOSOVO. BUT IN EVERYCASE, I SAY THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO DEFEND HISTORY, TRADITIONS AND CHRISTIAN VALOURS. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD

Guest		08-Dec-2005 16:45
Thank you Tirana, but of course you have nothing in return because you know it is all true as you can see for yourself at this website, just to confirm I am not making this up and that your nation is the scum of the Earth: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/reports/politics/albaniatraffickers_20030703.shtml I urge you to pay particular attention to the 'Albania - home of 30,000 prostitutes' part as it sums up your backward country, ideology and people. Thanks, enjoy! DEATH TO ALBANIA!! LONG LIVE EUROPE!!

Tirana		08-Dec-2005 12:00
Stefan cheers, lol...You always impress me with your arguments ;) Long life to Serbia & Greece!

Vlad		07-Dec-2005 19:26
YES ANDRIJA, I WON'T COMMENT YOUR COMMENTS IN THE FUTUR AS I PROMITED BEFORE. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD

Andrija		05-Dec-2005 00:51
Vlad,did you know that most female prostitutes in Serbia&Montenegro are coming from Romania and other cigania Moldova.They all f*** for cheap,but anyway they making better living in Serbia then back in Romania and Moldova.Everyone here knows if you see skinny gipsy woman dress in miny skirt or cheap tight leather pants thats Romanian whore.Some others are from Ukraine or other countrys,but most foreigins are from first two places!Most of that women are infected and very dirty! P.S.You dont have to give comment on this.

Vlad		04-Dec-2005 12:17
NO ALEX, THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE I DESTROYED ANDRIJA SHOWING HIS STUPIDITY AND HIS IGNORANCE, THEREFORE. I WON'T REASON ANY MORE WITH HIM BECAUSE I CAN'T SPEAK WITH AN INFERIOR STUPID BABY. I SPEAK ONLY ABOUT IMPORTANT PROBLEMS AND CONSIDERATION. I HOPE THAT YOU ALSO WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE THE SAME. IN THIS FORUM WERE TREATED INTERESTING ARGOMENTS, THAT HELP US TO INCREASE OUR INTEREST ABOUT MANY PROBLEMS. SEE YOU LATER. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD

Alex Belgrade		04-Dec-2005 11:45
Ana Marija, Gde da prikazu drugu stranu Beograda, sta ti je? Ionako smo dovoljno ocrnjeni na Zapadu, treba da pokazujemo Srbiju u lepom a ne u ruznom svetlu. Osim toga i Njujork ima beskucnike na ulicama ali ne prikazuju njih, vec samo sjaj Menhetna. KISS.

Alex Belgrade		04-Dec-2005 11:41
Okay, now this has become a private row between Andrija and Vlad. ENOUGH ALREADY.

Vlad		03-Dec-2005 12:47
YOU'LL BE HAPPY IF I ANSWER YOU, EH? SORRY ANDRIJA CIGANOVIC, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SATISFY YOU. BUT IF YOU WANT TO CONTUNUE...YOU CAN TO SPEAK WITH YOURSELF. LONG LIFE TO ROMANIA AND IRONG GUARD

Andrija		03-Dec-2005 00:49
Vlad is going nuts!Gipsy turn into faschist,something is very wrong here.Very. England,clean this trash please. P.S.(Better them than us,we are not that tolerant-lot more pain.Lucky you) Greece-Serbia forever.

Stefan SERB		02-Dec-2005 17:17
Tirana, It is true that girls are hard to date in Serbia, but for an Albanian scumbag like you, they are impossible, stick to gypsies and trafficking people. Do you know what was plastered all over the front page of English newspapers today? Four Albanians have been sentenced to 63 years in prison for trafficking women through the Shiptar invaded Kosovo and Albania to Western Europe!! You know what I say? GOOD!! There are 4 less Shiptar scum in society. Also good that now Britain and other Western countries are getting what they wanted, when Serbs controlled Kosovo, there was no drug and people smuggling and bullshit like that, but now that NATO and the West have taken Kosovo and let you Shiptar scum to breed and do what you want, you are bringing the shit to the West. YOU FUCKER, DEATH TO ALBANIA!! LONG LIVE EUROPE!!

Tirana		02-Dec-2005 16:58
Thanx Alex...Maybe i'll need your information! Is is true that girls are difficult to date there?

ana marija		02-Dec-2005 16:39
e cao, mnogo mi se svidaju tvoje slike! samo sam htela da kazem sto ne pokusas da slikas blokove, kuce, skole,cigani gde zive itd realni zivot srbije! gde i kako mi zivimo! to bi bilo veoma interesantno isto zar ne? da pokazes i drugu stranu beograda!

anika		02-Dec-2005 16:35
I realy like your pictures, brings the memories back! I my self study Photography, i enjoyed looking at your pictures! Ooo i wish i was in serbia now! well done good work

Vlad		02-Dec-2005 10:10
YOU AREN'T IN CONDITIONS TO TEACH ME NEVER. I LOVE IRON GUARD AND CHRISTIAN EUROPEAN VALOURS. THIS MEANING COERENCE. POOR ANDRIJA, YOUR SHIT MIND DON'T KNOW THAT EXIST A NATIONAL EUROPEAN FRONT WHERE ARE ALL NATIONALIST FORMATIONS OF EUROPE. I LIKE AUSTRO HUNGARIC ARCHITETURE. THERE IS A BAD ON THIS? ALSO ROMAN EMPIRE LOVE GREEK CULTURE AND ARCHITETURE BUT ANCIENT GREEKS WASN'T FRIENDS OF ROME'S IMPERIALISM. THIS MEANING RESPECT FOR GOOD THINGS, THIS MEANING TO BE CIVIL. ALSO HITLER HATED FRENCH BUT HE LIKED PARIS AND ITS ARCHITETURE. IF YOU DON'T UNTERSTAND THAT MEANING AGAIN THAT YOU ARE AN IGNORANT BABY. I SUGGEST YOU TO STUDY HISTORY AND ARCHITETURE HISTORY TO BECOME FROMA A STUPID BABY A CIVIL MAN. NOW GO AWAY, AND DON'T BREAK MY BALL.

Andrija		01-Dec-2005 22:08
Ciganescu,look at yourself!First tell us what do you talking about?You talk about European union than about faschism,than about Austro-Hungarian architecture in Temisvar,than how you been killing Hungarians,than about nationalisam than again about US and democraty!You are realy full of s***!Stop bother us with so stupid things,please go away and take care of ship on Carpats!Leave democraty to EU & England! Greece - Serbia forever! Ultras R.S.Belgrade

Vlad		01-Dec-2005 18:15
I'M SORRY STEFAN, YOU KNOW THAT IF THE STUPID ANDRIJA DON'T SPEAK I DON'T ANSWER HIM. BUT I KNOW THAT HE IS A POOR BABY AND THEREFORE I DON'T SPEAK WITH HIN ANYMORE. I THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION ABOUT OUR MONUMENTS , I SUGGEST YOU TO SEE ALSO WWW.SIBIU.RO (FOTO ALBUM), SIGHISOARA.COM(GALLERIES) AND WWW.PRIMARIAMEDIAS.RO, AFTER YOU SAY ME WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT, WHILE I ALSO SEE YOUR GALLERIES ABOUT BELGRADE, AND I'LL SAY WHAT I THINK ABOUT IT. ONLY A FINAL CONSIDERATION FOR ANDRIJA: IF YOU KNOW HISTORY YOU MUST KNOW VERY WELL THAT ALSO WE HAVE BANAT WHO IN A PART ROMANIAN AND IN ANOTHER PART SERBIAN. YOU MUST STUY HISTORY BEFORE TO SPEAK. SEE YOU LATER.

Guest		01-Dec-2005 17:32
Stop your arguing, it will come to nothing, and by the way we don't have 1 million gypsies. Our capital is very much alive and well, with our spirit also. Check my webpage to see some pictures of the miserable Belrgade you speak of: http://www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/belgrade_2005 I have also seen many photos of Romanian cities and holy moasteries, I must admitt I was very impressed, especially by the monasteries in Southern Bucovina. I also liked the People's Palace pictures in Bucharest. No more fighting amongst our Christian brothers. FUCK ALBANIA TO THE GROUND AND FOREVER!! LONG LIVE SERBIA AND GREECE!!

Andrija hates cigano		30-Nov-2005 23:54
Cigano-romano,thank you for BANAT!Am I evel Serb,ha ha! Sit in your Dacia,bring orcestra to streets of temisvar and play some classical music, cold winter is coming! ULTRAS RED STAR BELGRADE

Vlad		30-Nov-2005 22:49
OH WE DON'T NEED YOUR HELP, BECAUSE YOU LOSE EVERY WAR, IF YOU LOSE ALSO IN KOSOVO POLJE, WHERE ALBANIANS AND TURKS FUCKED YOU. HUNGARIANS WAS KILLED BY US IN 1990 IN TARGU MURES, IF YOU KNOW HISTORY. BT THE WAY I KNOW THAT IN VOJVODINA HUNGARIANS BEGIN TO FUCK YOU. ALSO IN THE PAST THEY KILLED MUCH OF YOU IN SUBOTICA AND NOVI SAD.

Andrija		30-Nov-2005 22:06
I'm not gonna kill you,ha ha Hungarians may do that some day,you know that they like gipsyland!But when Turks attack again,we not gonna help you!Next time you will defende yourself with another cigans moldavians.Good luck! Greece&Serbia forever!

Vlad		30-Nov-2005 21:39
OH I'M VERY IMPRESSIONED. PLEASE, DON'T KILL ME. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD.

ANDRIJA		30-Nov-2005 21:37
I"M CETNIK I DONT WANT RED VINE OH GOOD I DRINK M***** BLOOD!

Vlad		30-Nov-2005 21:27
AH!AH!AH! YOU SPEAK SOME CRAZY WORDS, AND THIS SHOW VERY WELL THAT YOU ARE IN A BAD PSYCHOLOGICAL SITUATION. TRY AGAIN. OR YOU CAN SPEAK ONLY DAXIKHANè LANGUAGE. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARDS.

Guest		30-Nov-2005 21:20
I think that you get a little bit upset because I sad VLAH,(romanian real identity, something you hiding in your sensitive cigans heart),so I see that you are ready to sing-SING MY THAT ONE"HERE I'm AND MY CETNICS...

VLAD		30-Nov-2005 21:13
YOU WERE IN TIMISOARA 11 YEARS AGO, BUT ALSO IN 1994 TIMISOARA WAS BETTER THAN YOUR DESTROYED AND MISERABLE CAPITAL BELGRADE. COME NOW IN TIMISOARA TO SEE HIS HISTORIC AUSTRO-HUNGARIC CENTRE THAT WAS RESTORED FEW YEARS AGO. COME NOW IN TIMISOARA TO SEE HIS NEW INDUSTRIAL CENTRE, 9000 FOREIGN COMPANIES ONLY IN TIMISOARA. I'M SORRY ONLY FOR ALEX AND STEFAN BUT IF A STUPID BEGIN TO SPEAK, I MUST TO SHOW HIM THAT HE'S A GREAT STUPID. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD.

Vlad		30-Nov-2005 21:07
ON TIMISOARA ISN'T IMPORTANT YOUR COMMENT BECAUSE IS A COMMENT OF A STUPID DAXIKHANè BABY. YOU KNOW WHO ARE DAXIKHANè? OF COURSE, BECAUSE THEY'RE SERBIAN GYPSY. I NEVER SAY THAT IN ROMANIA AREN'T GYPSY, THEY'RE VERT MUCH, 2 MILLIONS 9% OF POPULATIONS, BUT DAXIKHANè IN SERBIA ARE 1 MILLION 10% OF THE TOTAL OF YOUR POPULATION, THIS MEANING THAT YOU'VE A PERCENTAGE OF GYPSY LARGER THAN OUR. HOW CAN YOU LOVE RED STAR (EQUIPE OF COMMUNIST YUGOSLAV REGIME) AND LOVE DRAZA MIHAJLOVIC? OR TITO OR MIHAJLOVIC. SAY ME YOUR ADDRESS THAT I SEND YOU MONEY. I'M SURE THAT YOU SAY THAT STUPIDITIES BECAUSE HUNGRY DESTROYED YOUR SLAVIC MIND. OPS...PROBABILY YOU LIVE IN THE DESTROYED BUILDING OF KNEZA MILOSA, POOR BABY. THIS MEANING THAT I MUST SEND YOU MORE MONEY TO REPARE YOUR HOUSE. IH!IH!IH! KISS OUR ARYAN ASS. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD.

Andrija		30-Nov-2005 20:55
At the year of 1994;I went to temishvar-romania,and holy Jesus Christ,I newer seen ugliest place before,that is but hole of Europe.Tipical Vlasian town.If you say that romanians are not cigans,how you explaneing that many street musicians,open markets and golden teet? P.S.I didnt know that cigan can be a right wing anywhere,but in romania because they add there almost 50% of total population,ha ha!Keep singing 4 coins,you may eat something tonight!

Vlad		30-Nov-2005 20:43
OH ANDRIJA, I'M CRY FOR YOU. YOU'RE ONLY A BABY 12-13 YEARS OLD. YOU MUST TO KNOW THAT YEARS OF ANTONESCU LIVING IN OUR HEART. DURING THE REVOLUTION OF DEVEMBER 1989, MANY BOYS WHO FIGHT AGAINST CEAUSESCU'S REGIME, HAD SINGES SONGS OF IRON GUARD AND ALSO NOW EXIST TWO MOVIMENT: PRM AND NOUA DREAPTA WHO HAVE LEGIONAR IDENTITY OF IRON GUARD. LAST YEAR IN BUCHAREST WE HAD REALIZED A MONUMENT TO MARSHALL ANTONESCU. AT 26 NOVEMBER WE HAD CODREANU'S MEMORIAL (THE FOUNDATOR OF IRON GUARD) AND THERE WAS DELEGATIONS FROM MANY FOREIGN NATIONALISTS PARTY AS FORZA NUOVA (ITALY), LA fALANGE (SPAIN), VLAAMS BLOK (BELGIUM), NAD NPD (GERMANY). STOP TO SAY YOUR STUPIDITIES. YOU MUST BE SILENT, BECAUSE YU CAN'T LOVE TITO AND MIHAJLOVIC TOGETHER. YOU MUST BE COERENT BEFORE TO SPEAK WITH US. YOU TALK ABOUT DANUBE, WELL I REMEMBER YOU THE BOMBS ON YOUR HEADS AND THE HUNGRY OF EMBARGO. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD.

Andrija		30-Nov-2005 20:31
Hey,4 years of him is nothing compere of 40 years of leader Causescu,you remember swimming in Danube,gipsy? Ultras Red Star

Vlad		30-Nov-2005 20:26
OUR LEADER, OUR HEART, OUR MIND, WAS, IS AND WILL BE FOR EVER MARSHALL ANTONESCU. UNDERSTAND? WE LOVE IRON GUARD A MOVIMENT WHO TEACH TO LIVE ONLY FOR DEFEND, LOVE AND SERVE OUR MOTHERLAND. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD

Andrija		30-Nov-2005 20:20
How about"RIP Causescu",ha,ha!

Vlad		30-Nov-2005 20:10
I'M SORRY FOR YOU ANDRIJA BUT I THINK THAT YOU SAW YOUR BROTHERS THERE. BY THE WAY IF YOU NEED MONEY, ASK ME. I'M VERY GENEROUS. I WON'T ANSWER MORE, BECAUSE I HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH ALEX AND STEFAN TO STOP OUR RESPECTIVE PROVOCATIONS. BUT I WANT TO SAY AGAIN A SLOGAN THAT IS BLOOD IN OUR VEIN: LONG LIFE TO IRON GUARD AND MARSHALL ANTONESCU. HE TEACH US ALL ABOUT LIFE AND NATIONALISM. DEATH TO OUR ENEMIES.

Andrija		30-Nov-2005 19:23
Vlad,I saw two real gipsys in France and they told me that they are romanians or cigans! P.S. Do you play violine in Paris metro station,romanians are the best street artists. You know that carpatian nomad! KRRRRRRRRRRR roma le-chaba le. ULTRAS RED STAR BELGRADE! HELLAS-SERBIA FOREWER!

Alex Belgrade		18-Nov-2005 17:31
Tirana, and others, Here is some info on the nightlife in Belgrade... Klub Bardova, a close-type club, but very popular Floating boat Acapulco, with live music every day. Another floating boat cafe is Green Bar, with all trendy music. Also, the "Crni Panteri" or Black Panthers, with Serbian folk music and a very hot atmosphere. Another floating boat cafe is City Blaywatch, near hotel Yugoslavia. It has recently opened. For techno and R & B fans, there is the F6 and Andergraund (Underground) in downtown Belgrade. Also visit Akademija (Academy). In downtown Belgrade on Kneza Milosa street is Trezor, the biggest nightclub. There is also the Sinatra Jazz Bar, Irish Pub etc. All are located in downtown Belgrade. There are numerous cafes and patios when you can have a relaxed cup of coffee, or chat with a friend. The streets are usually filled to the early hours and are buzzying with smiling young people. The most eminent cafes are located on Obilicev Venac and Strahinjica Bana Street, when guys with good cars come to show off their cars and their girlfriends :) As for restaurants, the best are located on Skadarlija Street (near the National Theater) as well as in Kosutnjak Park, although there are many, many others. I hope this helps.

Alex Belgrade		18-Nov-2005 17:17
Tirana, Belgrade is like any other European cities. But, it is not so over advertised like Rome or Paris, or well known like Prague or Budapest. It has a unique blend of civilizations, From the early archaeological findings, to the Ottoman Turks' period, to Austrian period, to communism, to the Nato bombings and the modern business era. It's quite a safe city and has been drawing an increased number of tourists in the last 5 years (since the fall of Milosevic). The New York Times and the Pittsburgh Post Gazette ran articles on Belgrade recently. One can see that there is a lot of work going on - from reconstructing the buildings, to streets, sidewalks, parks. People say Belgrade has great nightlife, from Gypsy brass bands, to floating cafes and restaurants, to jazz clubs, Irish pubs, Serbian folk music clubs, rock clubs etc. It has great restaurants as well. Apart from the nightlife and the cuisine, the girls in Belgrade are also very pretty. Also, what makes Belgrade unique is that it has a live atmosphere, a sort of energy and electricity in the air, the friendliness of most people. For American and EU tourists it is quite cheap so they end up having a great time for a small amount of money. Belgrade needs to utilise more of its fortress, Kalemegdan, as well as the fact that it sits on 2 rivers, the Sava and the Danube. More and more events - business, cultural and sports, prove that Belgrade is once again the center of the region. You asked me what is Kneza Milosa? It is one of the streets in downtown Belgrade, named after Prince Milos Obrenovic who ruled Serbia in the 19th century and is one of the founders of the modern Serbian state. For more info, please visit www.tob.co.yu P.S. Perhaps you find it hard to believe, but Belgrade is an open city, inspite of the fact that it has been conquered and destroyed 40 times in its history. We have many Albanians in Belgrade who have cake and pastry shops, and nobody does anything to them. It's just that Serbs are sensitive when Kosovo is mentioned. I am sure that Stefan Serb reacted a bit too emotionally. If you have any other questions, let me know.

Tirana		18-Nov-2005 16:00
What can you tell me about Beograd that i cant find in books or official web sites? How's life there? Which are the most prefered pubs, clubs, discos? And by the way, what's Kneza Milosa?

Alex Belgrade		18-Nov-2005 10:00
Here is another great Belgrade gallery, with many details: www.pbase.com/sofo/belgrade

Alex Belgrade		18-Nov-2005 09:46
Other great Belgrade galleries (RECOMMENDED): www.pbase.com/sasa011/belgrade www.pbase.com/pavlec/belgrade_girls www.pbase.com/neske/belgrade

Alex Belgrade		18-Nov-2005 09:40
Vlad, For once we agree 100 %.

Vlad		17-Nov-2005 21:02
AACTUALLY IS IN DISCUSSION THE FUTURE STATUS OF KOSOVO. IS A PROBLEM OF JUSTICE AND COERENCE WITH HISTORY. THIS IS A CHRISTIAN REGION AND NOW HIS SERBIAN MINORITY HAS VERY MUCH PROBLEMS. SINCE THE END OF AMERICAN STRIKE, SERBS OF KOSOVO LEAVE HIS LAND. BEFORE THE WAR IN KOSOVO LIVED ALMOST 200000 SERBS AND NOW THEY ARE ONLY 50000. THIS IS A SERBIAN LAND, HISTORY CONFIRM THAT. EUROPE IS A CHRISTIAN LAND AND KOSOVO MUST TO BE A SYMBOL OF EUROPEAN IDENTITY AGAINST THE VIOLENCE OF IMPORTED OTTOMAN ISLAM. IF KOSOVO WILL BE INDEPENDENT IT WON'T A FREE LAND BECAUSE HIS ORIGINAL PEOPLES WILL MUST TO LEAVE. UCK TERRORIST MUST BE ARRESTED AND CONDANNATED FOR BEHEAD OF SERBS AND FOR THEIR CRIMES. IS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY TO DESTROY SERBIAN OLDEST CHURCHES, IN MY OPINION AND ALL CHRISTIANS OF EUROPE MUST TO MAKE SOMETHINGS TO DEFEND ANY CHRISTIAN SYMBOLS. THEREFORE WE CAN'T ACCEPT THAT EUROPEAN POWER WANT TO INVITE TURKEY (THAT IMPORTED HIS RELIGION BY CRIMES) IN OUR CHRISTIAN VALOURS SYSTEM. IF KOSOVO WILL BE AN UCK LAND AND IF TURKEY WILL COME IN EU OUR FREEDOM WILL BE DESTROYED AS THE PAST. BECAUSE UCK HAS A GREAST INTEGRALIST ISLAMIC CHARACTERIST AND TURKEY HAS 70 MILLIONS PEOPLES AND THIS MEANING THAT TURKEY WILL HAS MANY EURODEPUTY IN OUR INSTITUTIONS AND WILL BECOME THE HEAD OF EUROPE AS THEY HAD THINK IN THE PAST. THEREFORE IS IMPORTANT TO FIND A PACIFIC SOLUTION BUT IS IMPORTANT ALSO TO REQUIRE RESPECT OF CHRISTIANITY EUROPEANS VALOURS. NOW, I INVITE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT PROBLEMS THAT INTEREST US IN THE PRESENT AND IN THE NEXT FUTUR.

ALEX Belgrade		17-Nov-2005 20:31
Lee Coleman, Cheers, mate! All of us Balkan folks givin' you a headache? LOL Thanks for defending Serbs. We appreciate it. Peace to everyone. TO THE PEOPLE IN THE BALKANS, People, let's try to be tolerant with each other. We can speak bad words and insults, but that will not help, it will just get worse. On the other hand, we can all exchange arguments for what we say. I am sure that Serbs can win this debate because Serbs KNOW Kosovo is Serbian. Cheers to all foreigners. As for the Balkan peoples, can we PLEASE end the garbage talk? Best wishes, Alex

ALEX Belgrade		17-Nov-2005 20:20
EVERYONE PLEASE READ.... Americans have started asking themselves: oops, why the hell have we supported Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo? To get 9-11? Now America is slowly changing its attitude towards Serbs.Just wait and see. When the Kosovo Albanians see that they will NOT get an independent Kosovo so easily, and that they will NOT get a greater Albania, they will start a war with UN and Nato. We just have to be patient. Hundreds of thousands of illegal Albanians have spilled into Kosovo over the decades. They were illegal - they were not citizens of Yugoslavia and they should have been kicked out. But, Tito let them stay. He also forbid the Serbs to return. When Milosevic reacted, it was too late. The world was already poised against him. If Tito had expelled the illegal Albanians, nobody would say a word. But, every Tito's action was anti-Serb. Until 1941 Serbs were the absolute majority of Kosovo. Kosovo was NEVER a part of Albania, except during WW 2, when Nazis and Fascists created the so-called Greater Albania. Kosovo has been a Serbian state, it is the heart and soul of Serbia, of its statehood, of its religion, of its history, of its medieval architecture, of its frescoes, of its epic poetry... In Kosovo, since it has been taken by Nato: over 140 churches have been burnt, blown up, mined... some were urinated upon, some turned to mosque or completely disappeared (turned to parks), even Serbian graves were demolished, Serbian civilians have been kidnapped, women raped, children murdered. Each Serbian civilian in Kosovo is at risk of being killed when he steps out to buy bread, when he goes to church or sends a child to school, numerous Serbian private homes have been burnt, looted, or Serbs forced to sell them at low prices, just to save their lives and the lives of their families, Serbian state-owned factories are being "privatized" by Albanian mobs and mafia which run Kosovo, Serbia has over the decades been giving so much money for the develpoment of Kosovo. The world is talking about a multi-ethnic and multi cultural and multi religious Kosovo today, but these are just words. Serbs in Kosovo are the most endangered people in Europe today, and Kosovo is Europe's most corrupt and most criminalized region, with total lawlessness. These are the FACTS. Kosovo is rightfully called SERBIAN HOLY LAND as it has more than 1,400 holy places, churches, etc. Every Albanian in Kosovo wants a Greater Albania. They even have maps of it. Every one of them would make the capital of Greater Albania to be Pristina (capital of Kosovo), not Tirana (capital of Albania). That's because Albania proper is too poor. Kosovo is also poor, but compared to Albania, it is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. If Kosovo is so bluntly taken away from Serbia, let's take away California and Texas from the US, Northern Ireland from the Brits, Basque from Spain etc etc etc. If a sovereign and internationally recognized country such as Serbia-Montenegro is torn up, it will be the end of international justice and law. We can all go on insulting each other forever, but that will not lead us anywhere. PEACE to everyone.

Guest		17-Nov-2005 18:59
Tirana, Yes I do hate Albanians not because of nationalism but because of what your people are doing in our holy land of Kosovo, don't you understand what you are talking about? You say that I call people like me from Albania terrorists? No, I call your Albanian terrorists as terrorists. Being a Serb nationalist is entirely different from going into someone elses country and burning their religious heritage sights without any serbs doing that in Albania. You are very undeucated about this matter as you have said earlier so technically you cannot stick up for your fellow Shiptars graffittying and destroying Serbian churches in our country. And remember, it is ALWAYS our country, not yours. The fact that the first Serbian state was founded in Kosovo obviously means nothing to your greedy Greater-Albanian seeking terrorists. If I was born in Albania I would also act as how your terrorist filth is acting in Kosovo, listen mate, I don't burn and destroy what is not mine. If I was born in Albania I would want Albania to develop itself, stamp out your crime riden streets and start real ecomonic growth, not just smuggle drugs and weapons and help your Muslim Shiptar brothers in Kosovo to take what is not rightfully yours. I have my reasons for hating you, I would like you to find a reason to hate a Serb when we have always been nothing but accomodating to all your inferior immigrants. Reda my last message carefully fool before replying you inbred scum. especially the part of how you would feel if a group of Serbian immigrants burned down Ethem Bey in Tirana and all of your museum town of Gjirokastra, then we would see if you would hate Serbs or not. I don't give a flying fuck what your age is, that doesn't matter to me whther you are 100 or 2 years old, the fact is that no matter how my irrational my hate may be (for which I can find no arguament against it) I can never get rid of it, just as you Shiptars can never bring back our monasteries and holy places. At least we will alwasy have Hilandar!! ÑÐÁÈ£À ÇÀ ÆÈÁÎÒ!! DEATH TO ALBANIA!!

Tirana		17-Nov-2005 17:42
Well you have your reasons to be angry, and i have mines not to be! (even if i should). Anyways your reasonning is weak...You are talking about holy monuments that were destroyed, but in the other hand you just give a shit about killing a human being! Personnally if i would choose between a holy monument and human beings, i would choose the second. How many Albanians did serbs kill? I'm not telling anything about that and you just go on talking about holy momuments. Who gives a shit man? Maybe there were good reasons that they did it, i dont know, i cant know! But tell me a good reason about kiling people! Well you would say that being an Albanian is a good reason. I dont care you've got your opinion, but remember that not ALL Albanians do bad things, like not ALL Serbs are like you! If you manage to get that, i will be happy for you! Try also to put the word PEACE in your vocabulary. That would help!

Tirana		17-Nov-2005 17:32
Well you have your reasons to be angry, and i have mines not to be! (even if i should). Anyways your reasonning is weak...You are talking about holy monuments that were destroyed, but in the other hand you just give a shit about killing a human being! Personnally if i would choose between a holy monument and human beings, i would choose the second. How many Albanians did serbs kill? I'm not telling anything about that and you just go on talking about holy momuments. Who gives a shit man? Maybe there were good reasons that they did it, i dont know, i cant know! But tell me a good reason about kiling people! Well you would say that being an Albanian is a good reason. I dont care you've got your opinion, but remember that not ALL Albanians do bad things, like not ALL Serbs are like you! If you manage to get that, i will be happy for you! Try also to put the word PEACE in your vocabulary. That would help!

Tirana		17-Nov-2005 17:26
Well you have your reasons to be angry, and i have mines not to be! (even if i should). Anyways your reasonning is weak...You are talking about holy monuments that were destroyed, but in the other hand you just give a shit about killing a human being! Personnally if i would choose between a holy monument and human beings, i would choose the second. How many Albanians did serbs kill? I'm not telling anything about that and you just go on talking about holy momuments. Who gives a shit man? Maybe there were good reasons that they did it, i dont know, i cant know! But tell me a good reason about kiling people! Well you would say that being an Albanian is a good reason. I dont care you've got your opinion, but remember that not ALL Albanians do bad things, like not ALL Serbs are like you! If you manage to get that, i will be happy for you! Try also to put the word PEACE in your vocabulary. That would help!

Guest		17-Nov-2005 17:00
Tirana, Yes I do hate Albanians not because of nationalism but because of what your people are doing in our holy land of Kosovo, don't you understand what you are talking about? You say that I call people like me from Albania terrorists? No, I call your Albanian terrorists as terrorists. Being a Serb nationalist is entirely different from going into someone elses country and burning their religious heritage sights without any serbs doing that in Albania. You are very undeucated about this matter as you have said earlier so technically you cannot stick up for your fellow Shiptars graffittying and destroying Serbian churches in our country. And remember, it is ALWAYS our country, not yours. The fact that the first Serbian state was founded in Kosovo obviously means nothing to your greedy Greater-Albanian seeking terrorists. If I was born in Albania I would also act as how your terrorist filth is acting in Kosovo, listen mate, I don't burn and destroy what is not mine. If I was born in Albania I would want Albania to develop itself, stamp out your crime riden streets and start real ecomonic growth, not just smuggle drugs and weapons and help your Muslim Shiptar brothers in Kosovo to take what is not rightfully yours. I have my reasons for hating you, I would like you to find a reason to hate a Serb when we have always been nothing but accomodating to all your inferior immigrants. Reda my last message carefully fool before replying you inbred scum. especially the part of how you would feel if a group of Serbian immigrants burned down Ethem Bey in Tirana and all of your museum town of Gjirokastra, then we would see if you would hate Serbs or not. I don't give a flying fuck what your age is, that doesn't matter to me whther you are 100 or 2 years old, the fact is that no matter how my irrational my hate may be (for which I can find no arguament against it) I can never get rid of it, just as you Shiptars can never bring back our monasteries and holy places. At least we will alwasy have Hilandar!! ÑÐÁÈ£À ÇÀ ÆÈÁÎÒ!! DEATH TO ALBANIA!!

Tirana		17-Nov-2005 12:07
Stefan serb, you are talking about educated people and you just showed that you are not one of them...If you want to kill all Albanians come on, we'll see... If you want to talk and to debate we can do it here... Anyway i'm 22 and i dont hate serbs, but you have already made up your mind! Long life to whichever country you want... Just a question, do you realise that if you were born in Albania you would have been the same nationalist (about Albania)that you hate now? (In Albania there are people like you too, and you call them terrorists) Hmm...bizarre You cant be better just because you're Serb! You can be better only if you're intelligent and hard working...well guess what, there are intelligent and hard working people in every contry, no matter how much you hate it! Bye Stefan (oh i'm sorry maybe the fact that i'm using your name disgusts you) Whatever...

lee coleman.		14-Nov-2005 22:45
well thats good to know stefan , because i have always defended serbia and serbs to the last . you dont have to worry there are many many people here in england that understand the problem that serbia has with albania , but if some albanian guy wants to write in with some positive comments i dont belive he should be spat on , you seem like an educated man your english and spelling are very good so you should know better than to reply with hate . yes you are right auckland and new zealand are not the place for nightlife and clubbing etc that is why i am living in london whilst i am still a young man... but it is the extreme sports capital of the world so i wouldnt exactly call it boring . if you can get to queenstown in the south island this place is special , amazing scenery good bars and resturants etc and if you can afford it try bunngee jumping or a ride on the shotover jet boats . i heard there is a serbian scociety in NZ , when i take my wife dusica back home next year she may want to pay a visit , do you have any infomation on this ? cheers Lee .

Guest		13-Nov-2005 00:29
Lee Coleman, I have my own gallery on Belgrade that is ona link 2 comments below, visit it and see what you think, I will be adding a New Zealand and England gallery soon as well.

Guest		13-Nov-2005 00:26
I'll be honest, I have been to New Zealand and I am currently in London on business and I like New Zealand. I despise England! New Zealand is so clean, so modern but Auckland is boring apart from the Skytower. I am going this Christmas to see my sister who is living in New Zealand and I would like some suggestions of where to go? New Zealanders are great people and my last comment is filled with anger, and what I meant is that I don't like other nationalities because (apart from Greece) the majority of them don't like Serbs or Serbia and most people I have met in England, don't even know where Serbia is, They thought it was in Asia, very uneducated people here in England. I dislike the people of London, but I like the atmosphere and of course the beautiful monument, museums and all tourist attractions,I like New Zealand, I love France but most of all I love Serbia Long Live SERBIA & GREECE!!

lee coleman.		12-Nov-2005 20:26
wait a minute stefan serb , you hate every one who is not a serb ? tell me do you hate a new zealander or an english man who lives part time in belgrade because he is married to a serbian girl . tell me the truth . Lee.

Guest		12-Nov-2005 14:02
www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/belgrade_2005 Lots of new images added, check it out u guys. See ya, STEFAN SERB

Guest		11-Nov-2005 18:17
I agree Vlad, NO TO TURKEY IN THE EU!!!!!! AND NEVER TO ALBANIA IN THE EU!!!!

Vlad		11-Nov-2005 17:58
STEFAN, IS IMPORTANT TO DEFEND OUR CHRISTIANS TRADITIONS AND HISTORY, REMEMBER DRACULA AND CONSTANTIN BRANCOVEANU THAT DEFEAT THE TURKS OF MOHAMMED II AND REMEMBER LAZAR OF SERBIA WHO SHOW CHRISTIAN COURAGE IN KOSOVO POLJE. OUR TWO PEOPLE KNOW VERY WELL ALL OUR BLOODY BUT GLORIOUS PAST. ROMANIA IS A PROUD CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AS YOU. IS IMPORTANT TO DEFEND SERBS MONASTERIES IN KOSOVO. THEY REPRESENT CENTURIES OF HISTORY. BUT, TIRANA'S BOY ISN'T IN MY OPINION AN UCK TERRORIST, IS A YOUNG AS US, IF IN KOSOVO AREN'T UCK TERRORIST, BUT ONLY BOYS AS TIRANAN, I'M SURE THAT IN KOSOVO WILL BE PEACE. DEFEND OUR CHRISTIAN TRADITIONS, NO AT TURKEY IN EU.

Guest		10-Nov-2005 17:35
No named Tiranian, It's Ok for you to take a relaxed view towards Kosovo as it is not part of Albania, it is not your land to lose. I am sure you would feel the same way as me is Serbs flocked to Albania when Tito was our leader as you fled into Kosovo when Enver Hodxa was your shitty leader,then many years on, burned down your historical mosques such as Ethem Bey ect. as you are burning our ancient churches and monasteries. You can talk all you want about this pile of shit until you are all blue in the face but the fact of the matter is that Albanians who fled to Kosovo were treated well always by the Serbs and that when Kosovo needed money it was Serbia who had to give it up while you Albanian filth lived in huge houses with no food rations etc. My feelings as you may well have gathered extend to this: If I could get hold of any sort of power over any country with nuclear bombs, I would make a car park of your land of shit. I would reduce Albania to a golf course within seconds, I have so much anger against you I just want to expode, I hate everyone except Serbs and I especially MRZIM SHIPTARE!!!!!! I have been to Kosovo and seen the state it is in and I felt an incesent urge everytime I passed one of your SHIPTAR SCUM on the street to smack his/her jaw so hard their head would fall off. The hate I have for you in unbearable. AND BY THE WAY, YES YOU ARE SAVAGES, INBRED SAVAGES!! You filthy people plague every country you roam and flee into, you refugee dirt. You fucked up Kosovo, Western Macedonia, Northern Greece, don't you see that nobody wants you fucking assholes. You will get Kosovo soon but you will not suceed in your plans for Greater Albania because I can guarantee you. If nobody else will fight I will take up arms and go to Tirana and kill as many people as I can just to rid a few old you savages off the face of the Earth. This matter cannot be resolved as I will never reason with you as we did with Vlad from a far more civilised country in Romania. You are biting the hand that is feeding you because all you cunts in Kosovo got money food and a better life from the Serbs so you were just using us until you had enough people to revolt you idiot primitive savages!! You Albanians and Kosovans are exactly the same in every way, you are both Shiptars, you are the same ethnicity, the same language, flag and common purpose; To create a Greater Albania by stealing other nations' land like cave men and you are lucky America hates Serbs so much to take the side of you Filthy Shiptars or else Serbia would have crushed Albania like a bug many years ago. The reason Kosovan Shiptars call themselves Kosovans is because they want to make it an independent country you idiot with its own nationalities, same as Croat Muslims called themselves Bosnia, so they could get an Independent State. You are all the same and it is obvious to everyone that you are only pretending you don't like each other so us Serbs will be reassured that you will not unite with Albania. I hate you all and I always will, to me you are the scum and trash of the planet and the most uncivilised and developed race ever to plague Europe and Earth. I will kill you all one day, then there will be no more trouble from you. Top in the universities are you? Bullshit, I have been to and lived in Britain and seen the schools you filthy people are thrown into, living on run down derelict estates, all drug dealers and petty criminals, you are hated by all in England. You filthy cunts, BURN IN HELL WITH ALLAH!! SRBIJA ZA ZIVOT, FUCK ALL ALBANIAN SCUM INCLUDING YOU!!

Tirana		10-Nov-2005 15:31
Hello guys, hope you are fine! Well I read your posts and i saw that we don't know so much about each-other. Stefan have you ever been to Albania? Well i guess not, :). It is sure that we are still a poor country, but we are progressing (at least i hope so). I didn't know that there were many Albanians in Serbia. Are they Albanians from Kosovo or Albania? You said that we are biting the hand that is feeding us...well i didn't know that our governments had strong relationships and that you were helping Albania so much. So i guess that you must be speaking about Kosovo. If yes, i'm afraid that i can't fully answer to you because i don't know so much the reality of life in Kosovo or the people there. Maybe you didn't know but albanians and kosovars are not so close to each other and the mentality, even the culture is not the same. Yes we have a common language, flag etc, but a kosovar calls himself a kosovar and rarely an albanian. We are not savages neither! ;) Just take a look of albanians studying outside the country and you will see that they are amongst the best of theirs universities. That doesn't imply that all albanians are the same, and you have the evidence! It's sure that we do some stupidities, but you must also ask why do we do them. Would you accept to be treated as an animal? I guess not! I'm not justifiying what we do, but i think that things would considerably change if your view about us changed also. About the Kosovo issue, i guess i'm not the proper person to talk because i wouldn't be impartial. Let's see what happens and then we may comment. Bye guys!

Alex Belgrade		09-Nov-2005 07:01
Stefan Serb, The fact is that Kosovo is an old problem. The Albanians had terrorized us in Tito's Yugoslavia. But it was Tito who forbid the Serbs to return there after WW 2. It was Tito who made 2 autonomous provinces in Serbia and Kosovo was one of them. And yet in no other Republic did the autonomous provinces exist. And finally, it was Tito who opened up the border with Albania and let so many illegal Albanians into Kosovo. The next reason is the fact that Albanians have about 10 or 15 children per family, so their population grew. UCK is a terrorist organization financed by drug trafficking, arms smuggling and human trafficking. But, America has supported them because their lobby is so strong. Milosevic was the one who led us to the bombings, and pulled out of Kosovo in 1999. The Radical Party, so called Patriots, have also been responsible. Now Kosovo is occuppied. Serbs live in ghettos, and 140 Serbian churches have been destroyed. Serbs have no security at all in Kosovo. Even their graveyards are destroyed, and they have to asko for KFOR (NATO) assistance even to cross the street, go to school or buy bread. And the world is silent. America has made such a huge mistake by supporting the Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo, and then when they got hit on Sept. 11 by Al Qaeda, they realised they made a huge mistake. It's only a matter of time before Albanians will start attacking international troops. If Kosovo is taken away from Serbia, it will be dangerous for other countries with similar problems. On the other hand, if it remains in Serbia, we will have 2 million hostile Albanians in our country. Only God's miracle can somehow save Kosovo. I am adraid we can't ever have a war again, as Nato would destroy us. We must negotiate the best we can. You saw on this forum that there was a guy from Albania who sounded OK. He admitted their mistake and seemed like someone we could talk to. People like that are needed on all sides, to restore confidence and a minimum amount of trust amongst the Balkan peoples.

Guest		08-Nov-2005 16:59
you can access it by clicking on my name or; http://www.pbase.com/stefan_serb/belgrade_2005

Guest		06-Nov-2005 21:18
I have just made an account. Come and see my photos of Belgrade!!

Vlad		06-Nov-2005 19:09
BALKAN IS A REGION WITH VERY MUCH PROBLEM, IN MY OPINION IS A GOOD IDEA TO TRY A SOLUTION WITH PEACE. BUT IT ISN'T A GAME. I THINK THAT EVERY COUNTRY OF THIS REGION MUST TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT RESPECT EVERY PEOPLES. IS ALSO A PROBLEM OF RELIGION. OF COURSE, IF CHURCH WILL BE DESTROYED BY UCK IN KOSOVO, WHILE IN THE WORLD IS A RELIGION WAR, ALL BECOME ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. I THINK THAT ALEX SAY THE TRUE, BUT STEFAN'S CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT UCK CRIMES MUST BE ACCEPTED. I KNOW SOME SERBIAN STUDENTS IN TIMISOARA (TIBISCUS UNIVERSITY) THAT TALK ME THAT IN KOSOVO VERY MUCH SERBIAN TEENS WERE BEHEAD BY UCK. PEACE IS AN IMPORTANT AIM BUT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT RESPECT. KRISTA, SAY ALL THAT YOU WANT, BUT I ACCEPTED THE PREVIOUS REQUIRE TO STOP ALL PROVOCATIONS AND INSULTS, YOU TALK ABOUT OUR PROBLEMS AND I TALK ABOUT YOURS PROBLEMS, EVERY COUNTRY HAS PROBLEMS AND QUALITIES. LONG LIVE TO ROMANIA

Stefan SERB		06-Nov-2005 18:03
Alex, How can we talk and compromise with the Albanians who we have let into our land to escape the tyranny and absolute awfulness and poverty of life in Albania, that are now killing us day-by-day. They are biting the hand that feeds them. How can we communicate with such savages who bulldoze our holy monasteries that are centuries old. They are not fit to eat the crumbs from under our feet yet we took pity and sheltered them when they were needy. They are the worst people on Earth, Africa is like America for them. They are the most corrupt, filthy race to ever plague our nation and the Balkans. They are good for 2 things, drug smuggling and terrorism. We cannot compromise with these people don't you see that it will get us nowhere, they will always want more. We will lose Kosovo in the very near future and a Greater Albania is what will follow. Don't you see that nobody cares about us and the whole world says we are the oppressors and are holding the ethnic-Albanians captive under our tyrannyous rule. We cannot win in anyway, whether we unite or not, Serbia is fucked. We can only hope for a miracle, otherwise this is what will happen: Kosovo-Metohija will go independent, then Montenegro, then Vodvojdina , then what will be left?? NOTHING, It is over, we will continue to suffer under Western Propaganda for another 20-30 years, then maybe they will let us alone. LONG LIVE SERBIA PLEASE!!

Alex Belgrade		06-Nov-2005 14:50
I am glad that we are making progress here. I am glad that the situation is calming down and that Serbia and Romania can be neighbors, not enemies. The Balkans are a beautiful region, but also a region with so many problems and tensions. Arguing and insulting will not help any of us. We need to start communicating. I am still not clear as to why this started in the first place. Of all countries, Romania and Serbia have no open issues and have not had a war. We will also need to start dialogue with Albanians, and vice versa. We can't fight each other or hate each other forever. Let's all make the Balkans a better place. Peace to everyone. I really mean that.

Krista		05-Nov-2005 19:20
I can't belive that one Romanian is speaking so bad about Serbia?! Just wanted to say that under the circumstances I'm from Belgrade and I'm living in Romania for last two years. Here there are still people who have hot water once per week and heating only in the afternoon and evening. To don't mention that till 1989. here was TV program only two hours per day and it was only about Chausesku. Here the borders were closed and who ever run away and cross the border was public enemy. We (Serbians) could go free anywhere. We had everything what you will have maybe in next 20 years. Also you can't compare mentality of our two nations. It is shame to speak so bad about Serbia, when you always lived worst that we did. Regards from Krista

Vlad		03-Nov-2005 20:15
ALEX, ALSO I APOLOGIZE. IN THIS BEAUTIFUL EUROPEAN AREA, WE ALL MUST TO SHOW OUR CIVILITY AND FOR MAKE THIS WE MUST ALSO TO FORGET RANCOUR. STEFAN, I ADMIT THAT I'D EXAGGERATED, I KNOW YOUR ANGER FOR AMERICAN STRIKES AND I ALSO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT I'D SAY ABOUT KNEZA MILOSA. IN NEXT FUTUR WE'LL BE ALL IN EU TO SHOW BALKAN QUALITIES. DOBRO VECE, S VEROM U BOGA SLOBODA ILI SMRT.

Stefan SERB		03-Nov-2005 19:24
Vlad, I did not start this, I simply stated the fact that our GDP is higher and I admitted that our unemployment level is higher after you insulted not Losmi but SERBIA in your reply to her/him. Then after I just stated a simple fact you replied to me in bold capitals in anger, I think it is clear who then started it. Anyway, I will not post any more anti-gypsy, anti-Albanian or anti-Romanian messages on this forum any more. I even said earlier on: "I be honest, I like Bucharest, and I like Belgrade but I don't like anyone to think they are better than us" as a sort of truce, but Vlad's reply was plain and simple: "LISTEN SERBIAN SHIT, ALL THAT YOU SAY IS ONLY A STUPID DREAM" I have also seen Vlado's gallery and I think it is amazing, far better than this one (no disrespect to the author). It was a fierce battle but we'll call a ceasefire now. LONG LIVE SERBIA, GREECE & ROMANIA!!

Alex Belgrade		03-Nov-2005 12:52
Here is another wonderful photo gallery of Belgrade. http://www.pbase.com/vmarinkovic/belgrade

Alex Belgrade		03-Nov-2005 12:48
Vlad, I apologize. I thought you started this whole thing. You love your country. That's good. That's the way it is supposed to be. I love my country - and that is the way it's supposed to be. May I suggest that we all end this right now, right here. We will all be in the EU someday, some sooner, some later, so what's the point of arguing. This is NOT meant to be a political site. This is simply a site meant to show a Balkan city. Some of you may like it, or not. That is your right and your choice. Then you can always go to another site. Peace to all. P.S. No more political, rasist, ethnic or religious provocations, please.

Vlad		03-Nov-2005 11:38
FOR ALEX: I WASN'T BEGINNER OF THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE I REPLIED TO LOSMI1 THAT START TO INSULT MY COUNTRY. I ACCEPT THE CONSIDERATION OF ALBANIAN GUY, AND I KNOW THE HISTORY OF QUEEN MARIA AND THE QUADRUPLE BALKANIC ALLIANCE OF WW1. NOW, YOU HAVE A PERSONAL OPINION OF YOUR COUNTRY AND I'VE A PERSONAL OPINION OF MY COUNTRY. FOR ME ROMANIA IS ALL I LOVE HIS HISTORY HIS CULTURE AND I CAN'T ACCEPT THAT A STUPID AS LOSMI OR STEFAN START TO SAY ONLY VERY MUCH STUPIDITIES ABOUT US. OF COURSE I MUST TO REPLY.

Alex Belgrade		02-Nov-2005 19:50
What's up with the spaghetti - eating Italians speaking in Italian? If you want us to understand what you are saying, use English. Or, is it the case that Italians don't know English at all?!

Alex Belgrade		02-Nov-2005 19:36
To the guy from Tirana, Hello. Well, this is a site dedicated to Belgrade. It's much better now because so many new things have been built and rennovated, and they are not shown here in the photos. If you trace the conversation to the beginning, you will see that it was the guy from Romania who started this. Then, heated as we are, we had to respond, and then it got out of control. But it was not Serbs who started, it was Romanians. I myself am for tolerance. I know all the Balkan peoples have unresolved issues and a troubled past, but I am for dialogue. If you remember, I tried to tell Vlad from Romania that we share some history together. We were allies in WW 1. Their princess Marie was our Queen (of Yugoslavia). We never had an open war with Romania and vice versa. But that was not enough for Vlad. He insulted us and we had to insult him back. That does not change the fact that an average Serb is living a better quality and standard of life than the average Romanian. You are welcome to visit Belgrade as are all the people with an open heart. If you disregard the politics, you will find that Belgrade is actually a city just like any other European city. Peace to everyone. Vlad, if you have any sense, please stop your provocations. P.S. The Balkans may be "Europe's poor cousin", but the Balkans have a SOUL, which can't be said for Western Europe.

DECIO		02-Nov-2005 11:53
L'Italia vendicherà ciò che voi porci slavi avete fatto ai nostri compatroti nelle foibe. Siete un popolo senza storia, senza cultura, senza civiltà, solo un ammasso di porci slavi di merda che invece di progredire pensano solo ad ammazzaesi tra loro. Vi odiamo e vi disprezzeremo sempre. Pola, Capodistria e Rovigno sono e saranno sempre Italia. L'ordine di cacciare la nostra gente dalla propria terra è partito dalla vostra schifosissima Belgrado che oggi è rasa al suolo. Dopo che avete rubato le nostre terre ora venite a rompere i coglioni in Italia per lavorare a Trieste visto che da voi si muore di fame. SERBIA MERDA! ALBANESI TUTTI APPESI, TORNATE A CASA CON I GOMMONI, MERDE! DUCE A NOI!

Tirana		02-Nov-2005 10:52
Hello everyone, I'm an albanian guy from Tirana and I was really curious to see what Belgrade was like. To tell you the truth, after watching the photos I find the city really interesting and why not maybe one day I'll visit it. Well in fact i have already been in Serbia Montenegro for two or three days during the last summer vacations, in Budva, and I met a lot of Serbian people there (i guess Budva is your favorite place for summer holidays) and even though i was Albanian, there was no tension between us, considering our history and the Kosovo issue. Now, i visited this webpage, and i see people showing their nationalism with pride. One says that Serbia is the center of the Balkans, another one says the same thing about Romania, forgetting that the Balkan is the poorest region of Europe. Comm'on guys, can't you just see that your nationalism is nonsense???Can't we just all be friends and "forget" where we come from? Someone told also bad things about Albanians. Well i must admit that we make plenty of shit, but would Serbian or any other nation act differently if they came out from a 50 year dictature? Anyway i see that things are changing. You can hardly find nowadays an Albanian who is uninstructed and that can't speak at least one foreing language. Also i think that we are calming down, and we don't do so much shit that we did before :) :). What i read here didn't change my mind about Serbian people and i'm waiting forward to visit Belgrade. Peace to all of you guys...Long life to Europe! ;)

Alex Belgrade		02-Nov-2005 00:44
CIA World Factbook states about Romania: " In 1940, it allied with the Axis powers and participated in the 1941 German invasion of the USSR. Three years later, overrun by the Soviets, Romania signed an armistice. The post-war Soviet occupation led to the formation of a Communist "people's republic" in 1947 and the abdication of the king. The decades-long rule of dictator Nicolae CEAUSESCU, who took power in 1965, and his Securitate police state became increasingly oppressive and draconian through the 1980s". "Meanwhile, recent macroeconomic gains have done little to address Romania's widespread poverty, while corruption and red tape continue to handicap the business environment". "major transshipment point for Southwest Asian heroin transiting the Balkan route and small amounts of Latin American cocaine bound for Western Europe".

Alex Belgrade		02-Nov-2005 00:23
MARSHALL ANTONESCU BOW DOWN TO MARSHALL TITO!

Alex Belgrade		02-Nov-2005 00:19
Vlad, I do not have to necessarily love Tito or Draza Mihailovich. I know they were enemies, but they are both part of history now. What the hell are you talking about - never cars, never lights, holes on the road. Many roads are being fixed in Belgrade now, more and more every day. We have ruined communist factories but so do you. You were bigger communists than we were. You practically STARVED. We have gypsies but so do you, as a matter of fact, you have more. Even your name says it all. Romania. Of course Belgrade has good roads and good cars and everything else you would find in a European city. Come on, do you really think a foreigner will actually choose to come to Belgrade or Bucharest? Of course he will come to Belgrade. Give me one Romanian who had won a Nobel prize? Give me one Romanian officer whom the Americans have awarded their highest medal. Give me one Romanian scientist who left a trace in the world? Apart from powertlifters and bodybuilders, I hardly ever see Romania on any event. Just accept the fact that you are a looser. Individually, and collectively. Serbia will beat you all - because Serbs are indestructable. We have survived 500 years of brutal islamic terror of the Ottoman Turks. We have survived occupation from Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria, Germany, on more than one occassion. We have survived genocide by Croat hands in WW 2 in their Nazi state. We have survived massive shootings by Germans. We have survived Tito's dictatorship. We have survived sanctions and Nato bombs - while Romania betrayed their Balkan neighbor by rushing in to help the Americans. Such misery. We have survived it all and we are very much alive and kicking, and we will very quickly become the main player in the Balkans once more. Serbia is in the center of the Balkans, economically, politically. The Caspian oil will flow through Serbia, plus the major roads and rail connecting Europe to the Middle East, to the Mediteranean etc. It certainly is NOT going to be Romania. Why did the EBRD have its conference in Belgrade and not Bucharest? Why did the World Bank say SCG is the top performer in 2004? Why didn't they say that about Romania? Why did Belgrade get to host the European basketball and volleyball championships and not Bucharest? You really have no arguments. You just repeat the same things, insults and fascist remarks. That only shows to everyone else who comes to this site what a miserable human being you really are. You got the bird flu. Serbia does not have it. You poisoned the Tisa river a year ago because your shity factories don't have filters. Your floods spilled over to Serbia.

Vlad		01-Nov-2005 18:52
OH ALEX POOR SLAVIC SHIT. YOU LOVE TITO AND DRAZA MIHAJLOVIC TOGETHER. IF YOU STUDIED HISTORY YOU MUST KNOW VERY WELL THAT THEY WAS ENEMIES. FOR EVER I'LL CONTINUE TO THINK THAT YOU KNOW AND YOU'LL THINK YOUR STUPIDITIES, THEREFORE KISS MY ASS PLEASE. BUT I'M SATISFY FOR YOUR IRRITATION, BECAUSE IT CONFIRM THAT I SAY REALITY. HOW CAN BE POSSIBLE YOUR STUPID DATES: SERBIA AND RWANDA MAKE MORE REFORMS THAN NETHERLANDS? PLEASE, SHUT UP. SEE THE WEB SITES THAT I WROTE BEFORE. WHICH IS YOUR RESIDENCE? THE BUILDING OF KNEZA MILOSA? I SAY YOU TO REPARE IT, AH!AH!AH!AH! ALL THAT I SAW IN SERBIA WAS A SORT OF AFRICA: DESTROYED ROADS, RUSTED AND DESTROYED INDUSTRIES NEAR BELGRAD, RUINS EXPECIALLY NEAR BATAINICA, NEVER CARS, NEVER PETROL FOR CAR, NEVER ELECTRIC LIGHT. ONLY VERY MUCH TURKS THAT CROOSED YOUR MISERABLE COUNTRY. SHUT UP DAXIKHANè (SERBIAN GYPSY)! TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD. MARSHALL ANTONESCU TEACH US TO HATE FOR EVER ALL INFERIOR SLAVIC RACES.

Alex Belgrade		01-Nov-2005 16:30
Vlad, Deep down in your troubled and miserable soul you KNOW that we are better than you. When you had no food to eat we travelled around the world and lived like Americans compared to you. Inspite of the demonization in Western media, sanctions, bombs, we are STILL doing better. Not only is our living standard higher, but you can actually compare the life of an average Romanian in Bucharest and the average Serb in Belgrade and you will see that the average Serbs has a much better quality of life than the average Romanian. I did not invent those news extracts. The WORLD BANK has stated that Serbia and Montebegro is the top performer in 2004, in relation to reforms. You silly man - I did not mention some unipmortant figures. If you don't know who Tesla is then you are really stupid. There is in fact a Tesla Memorial Society in New York., and the UN is thinking of establishing a permanent Tesla Day worldwide. Take a look at the site: http://www.teslasociety.com/ It's about a Serbian-American scientist without whom nobody would have electricity, not even your poor Romanian ass. They are putting his statue on Capitol Hill. US President Truman has awarded general Dragoljub Draza Mihailovich a Legion of Merit, the highest ranking medal America can give to a foreigner, for rescuing several hundred US airmen in WW 2, who were saved by Serbs from being captured by the Nazis. Ivo Andric, a noted Serbian writer, won the Nobel prize for literature in 1961, for the novel "Bridge on the River Drina". Milankovich cycles are cycles in the Earth's orbit that influence the amount of solar radiation striking different parts of the Earth at different times of year. They are named after a Serbian mathematician, Milutin Milankovitch, who explained how these orbital cycles cause the advance and retreat of the polar ice caps. Etc. Etc. Etc. I do not know of any Romanian general who was awarded by the United States, nor of any Romanian scientist who got world fame, nor of any Romanian Nobel Prize winner for any field. Just live in your ignorant world and believe that Romania is great. Serbia is the center of the Balkans, not Romania. And Serbia will again be the center of the Balkans, not Romania. So, go into your muddy hole somewhere Vlad, I am glad you guys have food to eat now. As for the illegal Serbian imigrants that come to Romania, well, Serbia is full of Romanian uneducated physical workers who come here and do all the worst jobs possible for some money. Most of them are here illegally and I can usually find most of them at the open market (flea market). I hired two poor Romanians once to carry my fridge for me. Moldova, or Moldavia, which many Romanians consider a Romanian territory, is one of the poorest countries in Europe. So is Romania, even though you will enter the EU before us. That is strictly political. Our life style is way much better than yours and will be so for a long time. Ladies and gentlemen, Elvis has left the building. Thank you very much! Long live Serbia and Greece.

Alex Belgrade		01-Nov-2005 08:30
Vlad You are so full of shit. The fact that you hate Slavic race for no reason shows what a fascist you are. And PREEDAPPIO, at least you can learn some English. Who had Musollini? Who was Hitler's right hand in Europe? ITALY.

Guest		31-Oct-2005 22:11
Vlad admit that you live in Serbia, and that you make up things couse you are jealous. Preedappio and Vlad are the same sick bastard (ip)

Stefan SERB		31-Oct-2005 17:53
PREEDAPPIO, shut up you Italian shit when you don't even have the knowledge to speak in English, I have translated what you said and it goes like this: Slavic hybrid bastards!! Italy does not forget the .....?You are alone a mass of animals, have hunted thousands of poor people from the actual land. You deserve to be in the shit now. We will not forget ever the town lost, we will not forget ever the onta sunita! You will pay gypsy scum. You cunt, do you not realise that you are the cowards, when the Americans say "jump", you say "how high?" your Aviano base was the main base of NATO's attacks, regardless of your place in NATO as our neighbours you (as the Greeks did) could have easily refused permission to the American illegal bombing campaign, you pussies and cowards, fuck you all!! You are all lazy faggots, another ass lickers of America. Did you know that a Serbian fighter jet made in with a 2 tonne bomb over the Adriatic to within distance of your Aviano base and could have destroyed half of fucking Italy but was called back at the last minute following new intelligence regarding the civilian deaths in that area. I thought Italy were Serbia's allies as we as a people have so much in common in our customs, cuisine and image, but you are a fucking backstabbing coward country that would sell its soul for America to walk all over, along with ROMANIA AKA - GYPSY CENTRAL, and by the way, fuck Timisoara I have been 2 1/2 years ago and I will never forget what I saw. Gypsy ghetto's on the outskirts of town with Aid Trucks from the UK and France serving food with a que a mile long, shoving and pushing to get some food!!! AND THAT IS THE TRUTH VLAD YOU COWARD!!

Vlad		31-Oct-2005 17:47
I WAS IN SERBIA THIS SUMMER WHEN I WENT IN AUSTRIA TO SEE SOME FRIENDS. WHEN I CAME IN VRSAC, I SAW: DESTROYED ROADS, NEVER PEOPLE, NEVER CARS, NEVER SHOPS. MY FIRST IMPRESSION WAS THAT I CAME IN AFRICA, MY HOPE WAS THAT BELGRADE WAS BETTER BECAUSE, IS THE CAPITAL, BUT IT WAS ONLY AN ILLUSION. I CAME IN YOUR CAPITAL AT 22 O'CLOCK, AND I SAW THERE THE SAME SITUATION OF VRSAC: BAD ROADS, DESTROYED BUILDINGS, NEVER INDICATION, SOME OLD ZASTAVA, ONLY A POLICE CAR (FIAT PUNTO, OUR POLICE HAS VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT). MOTORWAY WAS ALSO A GREAT NIGHTMARE: ONLY HOLES, NEVER LIGHTS, OLD DARK INDICATIONS. WE SAW ALSO RUMA, NEAR A GYPSY MISERABLE VILLAGE. WHEN WE ARRIVED IN LIPOVAC, CROATIAN BORDER, AND WE CROSSED IT FOR COME IN CROATIA WE THANKS GOD. IT WAS THE END OF A NIGHTMARE. SERBIA HAS NEVER. ONLY HUNGRY AND DISPERATION. I THINK THIS NOT FOR WICKEDNESS BUT BECAUSE IT'S REALITY. I'M SINCERELY SORRY FOR YOU. PLEASE, STOP TO COME ILLEGALY IN OUR COUNTRY, IN THE VILLAGE OF STAMORA MORAVITA, OUR POLICE EVERY NIGHT MUST TO TAKE YOUR CITIZENS CROSSING ILLEGAL THE BORDER. WITHOUT RANCOUR.

Guest		31-Oct-2005 17:17
I have been to Romania, you are still far away from Serbia, you have starving children, you mentality, culture and education is very low comparing to Serbia. But Vlad, I think you are living, or often coming in Serbia, I will find out that. You are a sick frustrated jealous gipsy, just realising the misery of your gipsy nation. The only good thing about living in Romania is that people are happy becouse they get something we got 20 or 30 years ago. Temisvar is the worst place on balkan peninsula... mud mud mud and mud. JUST TO REMIND YOU I HAVE BEEN TO YOU POOR COUNTRY YOU ARE MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF COMPARING IT TO SERBIA (ruined economy) AND NOW ALL MY CONVERSATION WITH YOU SICK GIPSY STOPS HERE.

PREEDAPPIO		31-Oct-2005 14:33
Slavi porci bastardi!!!!!!!!! L'Italia non dimentica le foibe! Siete solo una massa di bestie, avete cacciato migliaia di povera gente dalla propria terra. Meritate di stare nella merda adesso. Non dimenticheremo mai le città perdute, non dimenticheremo mai l'onta sunita. Pagherete, zingari giostrai! FASCI DI SANPIERDARENA -CREDERE, OBBEDIRE, COMBATTERE-

Vlad		31-Oct-2005 14:22
BORING, I WANT TO INFORM YOU THAT TIMISOARA IS KNOWN AS THE TOWN OF GARDENS AND ROSES, AND BUCHAREST AS THE SMALL PARIS. TIMISOARA WAS THE FIRST EUROPEAN TOWN THAT HAVE THE ELECTRIC LIGHT, AND IT HAS A BEAUTIFUL AUSTRO HUNGARICAN CENTRE AS PIATA UNIRII, CALEA ALBA IULIA, BASTIONUL PESCADORILOR, ECC... IF THAT YOU SAY IS TRUE TELL ME WHY THERE ARE VERY MUCH SERBS (EXPECIALLY FROM NEGOTIN, VRSAC AND PANCEVO) THAT WORK EXPECIALLY IN THE AGRICOLTURAL AND TEXIL SECTORS. IN TIMISOARA WE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION ONE OF THE GREATEST COMMERCIAL CENTRE "IULIUS MALL", OF SOUTH ESTERN EUROPE. IN THIS TOWN IS A CENTRE OF ITALIAN CONFINDUSTRIA AND IF YOU WANT TO INFORM ABOUT HIS DEVELOPMENT I SUGGEST YOU TO SEE WWW.EXPORT.MANTOVA.IT. ALL THIS, WHILE IN BELGRADE, THE POOR AND DESTROYED KNEZA MILOSA CONFIRM ALL THAT I THINK ABOUT YOU. HAVE YU A FAR IDEA ABOUT FOREIGN INVESTIMENT IN ROMANIA? SEE EN.WIKINEWS.ORG PLEASE. ABOUT GYPSY: IF YOU SEE WWW. CRIAD.UNIBO.IT, YOU'LL AFLY THAT EX YUGOSLAVIA, AND SERBIA HAS HIS GYPSY COMMUNITY: DAXIKHANè (SERBIA MONTENEGRO) AND KARAKHANè (BOSNIA), THEREFORE, STOP TO SAY STUPIDITIES. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD. WE HATE ALL INFERIOR SLAVIC RACES!

Boring		30-Oct-2005 21:01
Vlad you just keep saying the same stuff. I remind you, that I have BEEN TO ROMANIA AND ROMANIAS CAPITAL, and I ASURE you that you are still far away from ruined serbian economy. Temisvar is a muddy place, very ugly. I just can't forget the gipsy villages and the whole gipsy romanian people. The capital is another story. Starving children, ugly sights, poor people everywere, ugly and boring people, some cheap made fasades, bad mentality. To all other : you don't have to reply to a gipsy, we all know what ROMANIA is. He is just jealous and frustrated, and a gipsy :)

Vlad		30-Oct-2005 20:22
THE PICTURES OF KNEZA MILOSA CONFIRM ALL THAT I SAY. WE'RE IN 2005. SHAME YOURSELVES! LAZY!

Vlad		30-Oct-2005 20:10
FOR ALEX: LISTEN SERBIAN SHIT, ALL THAT YOU SAY IS ONLY A STUPID DREAM. YOUR BEST MISTAKE IS TO CONSIDER SERBIA AS FORMER YUGOSLAVIA. TITO'S YUGOSLAVIA IS DEATH, AND IN THE TIME WHEN SLOVENIA AND CROATIA PRESERV THE ECONOMIC STANDARDS OF FORMER TITO'S REPUBLIC AND INCREASE IT, BECAUSE SLOVENIANS AND CROATIANS DIFFERENT TO YOU ARE TWO WORKER PEOPLES, SERBIA CONTINUE TO DREAM AND TO SLEEP. THEREFORE YOU NOW ARE IN A SHIT SITUATIONS, STOP TO SLEEP AND BEGIN TO WORK. IF THAT YOU SAY IS TRUE, IT MEANS THAT SERBIA IS DEVELOPED MORE ALSO THAN GERMANY OR NETHERLANDS. RWANDA IS DEVELOPED MORE THAN NETHERLANDS? OH THIS IS A STUPID JOKE. 450 ITALIANS ARE IN BELGRADE (THE CAPITAL) FOR BUSINNES? MY SINCERELY CONGRATULATIONS, BUT YOU FORGET THAT WE HAVE ONLY IN THE TOWN OF TIMISOARA, 9000 ITALIAN COMPANIES, AS DUCATI MOTORS, ZOPPAS, BENETTON, SAN PAOLO BANK, BANCA DI ROMA, ETC.. SEE WWW.AIIR.RO TO FIND THE CONFIRM. AIIR IS THE ASSOCIATION OF ITALIANS THAT INVEST IN ROMANIA. IN BELGRADE WAS PAVAROTTI? YOU FORGET THAT HE WAS IN ROMANIA IN 1996 WHEN WE HAVE THE FAMOUS SUN ECLIPSE. THIS YEAR IN BRASOV FOR CERBUL DE AUR FESTIVAL WAS ALSO JOE COKER. IF A ONLY ROMANIAN TOWN AS TIMISOARA IS THE PARADISE COMPARATE TO YOUR CAPITAL, THE REST OF SERBIA WHAT IS? AH YES, A BALKAN RWANDA. YOU SAY THAT ROMANIA IS FAMOUS ONLY FOR DRACULA? AND SERBIA? YOU SAY SOME UNKNOWN NAMES, BUT YOU FORGET THAT ROMANIA HAVE ALSO NADIA COMANECI, THE WRITERS IORGA, CIORAN AND EMINESCU ECC... SO, PUT YOUR SHIT SERBIA IN ASS, PLEASE. WHEN WE'LL COME IN EU I SEND YOU A POSTCARD, AH!AH!AH!AH! FOR GREEK: I'M SORRY FOR YOUR UZU'S DRUNKENNESS, THEREFORE I PARDON YOU. I SUGGEST YOU TO SLEEP, BUT NOT TOO AS SERBS THAT CONTUNE TO DREAM GREAT SERBIA, WHEN THEY LOST ALSO MONTENEGRO AND KOSOVO, PROBABLY IN THE NEXT FUTURE ALSO PRESEVO. ALEX, LISTEN THIS JOKE, NOT IS MINE BUT YOURS, I LISTEN IT IN CNN: " MIRA MARKOVIC SAY TO SLOBO: AMERICANS ARE IN OUR GARDEN!!!! SLOBO ANSWER: NO, THEY AREN' T AMERICANS, THEY ARE OUR BORDER GUARDS." AH!AH!AH!. SERBIA IS DEVELOPED MORE THAN GERMANY, SLOVAKIA AND RWANDA MORE THAN NETHERLANDS, OH YOU'RE RIDICLE. SEE THE WEB GALLERIES THAT I WRITE YESTERDAY, BEFORE TO SAY THAT SERBIA IS BETTER THAN US, PROBABLY YOU'LL STOP TO DREAM AND YOU CAN TO SEE REALITY. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD! WE HATE ALL INFERIOR SLAV RACES!

Alex Belgrade		30-Oct-2005 19:31
Stefan Serb, Yes, I also think Milosevic is being illegally tried in the Hague, but the pressure was just too big and he had to go there, as will the others. I would much prefer if we had tried him back home, in Serbia. His big problem was that he did not understand that the Berlin wall was coming down, that communism was over. He did not understand that he could not be a new Tito. And he failed to understand that his TV propaganda was not working. You know how it was - all wonderful on the TV, but when you would go out, the reality SUCKED. The people had to get sick of the isolation and the wars, sooner or later. My cousin was a he. He was 31 and he died in Vukovar. He left behind a wife and small baby. When Krajina fell I was devastated. I truly wanted all Serbian lands renunited under one roof. But, we lost and Milosevic is the one to blame, as he was the one in charge. On to another subject, I am REALLY glad we managed to kick that rude Romanian guy Vlad out of here. He really went out of line, and we certainly did nothing, neither to his country nor to him personally. But, he got his ass kicked. My dear fellow Serb, I respect you, regardless of our little difference of opinion. See what unity can do? We can be unbeatable if we are together. So, all Serbs unite!

Alex Belgrade		30-Oct-2005 19:21
Dear Stefan, With Tito we were a great country, out there, respected on the world stage. His foreign policy was not too bad. What was majorly wrong was his policy at home. You are aware of the crimes of his secret service, namely OZNA and UDBA, you are aware of the forced buy-out of goods from peasants ("prinudni otkup"), you are aware of many people being shot or just disappeared because of their political views. We are talking about roughly 200,000 Serbs, not counting other ethnic groups. That's the number of Serbs Tito's so-called liberators are responsible for. That's more than the Nazis had killed in Serbia. They had killed about 70,000 Serbs in Serbia. You must not forget the Goli Otok, Tito's forced labor camp for political prisoners. The ruling of one party who had all power, the censorship in the media, the ideology that made Tito almost like a God, the professors of the University who lost their jobs etc etc etc. Tito's human rights record is appaling. Don't forget that we were also respected and proud during the Kingdom of Serbia. King Alexander's Yugoslavia was also respected - remember that he had created the Little Entente and the Balkan Alliance. Tito is responsible for the breakup of his own country. He created many nations and states that had not existed before, by damaging the Serbian national core. He weakened Serbia by creating two autonomous provinces. Why did he not create one in the Serbian populated areas in Croatia? Or in the Albanian populated areas in Macedonia? Why only in Serbia? The 1974 Constitution of Yugoslavia gave the Republics the power of states. The so called Territorial Defence (TO) were basically the armies of republics. The socialist economy was bad, we see that now. We need a real market economy. One party system was bad. We need a difference of opinion. And the borders that the world later recognized, were his borders, drawn by Kardelj, Mosa Pijade, Ivo Lola Ribar etc. These borders have nothing to do with history or justice. They are unfair, and mostly for the Serbs. My dear Serbian brother, Tito is the grave-digger of Serbia and the Serbian people. I grew up loving him too, of course, we all did. But, you really should read more. His bad side is much bigger than his good side. The only thing I give him some credit for is Yugoslavia's position in international relations. However, his domestic policy was horrible. Take care.

Stefan SERB		30-Oct-2005 15:29
Alex, I am not going to argue with you of course not, I respect your view and it is the view that most Serbs share now, I however have not changed my opinion because I think he is being illegally tried in The Hague by the real War Criminals Bush and Blair. However I do strongly disagree with you about Tito and Yugoslavia in the Communist era as that is when we were a great country. That was when we were a major power and I think if it wasn't for the death of Yugoslavia it would be up there with France, Germany, UK and USA today. I will always love Tito, despite him ethnically being a Croat he held together Yugoslavia and kept its dignity, it was only when he died, that the shit began hitting the fan and Yugoslavia became a mess. I am terribly sorry to hear about your late cousin and I hope he/she rests in peace. Anyway, that is my opinion and it is not important, but what is importnat is the future progress of the country that we ALL love (except the mysterious disappearing Vlad). And I hope we can continue developing to become like Slovenia who have done amazingly well. Remember the slogan "Only Unity Will Save The SERBS". LONG LIVE SERBIA & GREECE!!

GREEK FRIEND OF SERBIA		30-Oct-2005 13:27
I THINK THAT THIS LOW-IQed GUY FROM romania HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!HIS ARGUMENTS WERE JUST A FEW FIREWORKS AND NOTHING MORE.HEY MISERY ROMANIANS GO BACK TO YOUR MISERABLE AND POOR COUNTRY AND NEVER COME BACK.APOLOGIZE TO OUR FRIENDS FROM SERBIA TO WHOM U WERE VERY RUDE AND GO TO A ROMANIAN FORUM DISCUSSING ON HOW BETTER DAYS WILL COME. LONG LIVE GREECE AND SERBIA VELIKI SAVEZ

Alex Belgrade		30-Oct-2005 07:53
Vlad from Romania, What's the matter? Cat eat your tongue? Here is what saddens me deeply. If you were an Albanian, I would understand why you hate Serbs. Apart from drug-smuggling and gun-totting, all they do is sit around and make plans for a Greater Albania which would include Kosovo, Southern Serbia, parts of Montenegro, half of Macedonia and parts of Greece. But, you are from Romania. Do you know that Romania and Serbia, and vice versa, have NEVER had an open war with each other. Surely you guys have given the Americans your airports and bases so that they could attack us faster, but we forgave you. Still, we never had a war. We resolved the Banat issue peacefully. One of our Queens, whom Serbs love and respect, was Queen Marija (Marie) of Yugoslavia, former Romanian Princess. She was very pretty, very respected and loved by Serbs, because she did so much humanitarian work and she was warmly received everywhere. So, our history is tied, we are both Balkan nations, we have never had an open war between our countries. And yet so much hostility, hate and anger spills out from you when you talk about Serbs. May I remind you that you have come to this site, a site devoted to Belgrade, and started spitting on Serbs. Do you have anything better to do with your life? Wouldn't it be a better idea for you to belong to some Romanian forum somewhere? Perhaps before you diminish your presence on this forum, it would be nice if you could apologize to Serbs for starting this. You have a big mouth, but that's all. And so Serbs have spoken!

Alex Belgrade		30-Oct-2005 07:40
Stefan Serb, First, thanks for the nice words regarding my last comment regarding Vlad. Second, I disagree on Milosevic. He and his policy BROUGHT Serbia to its destruction. He is not our savior, he is our biggest destructor. He had no vision, no long term goals. At one point he was fighting for Yugoslavia, at another point he was fighting for the unification of all Serbs, while telling us that we were not at war and that he was a garant of peace. Bull. Then he got us isolated from the world. While his family and his regime lived very well under sanctions, the ordinary people suffered. Then he got us bombed by Nato. He did not fight to preserve Kosovo, he and the radicals were the ones who gave Kosovo up and withdrew from there. He only fought for his personal stay in power. He led us from one crisis to the next, because he could only function in abnormal circumstances. He was a bundlehead, an idiot, without any allies in the world, he waited for the truth to come by itself while the Croats and Albanians lobbied and paid American PR companies to tell their "truth". My cousin died in Krajina, the region Milosevic so bluntly just gave away to Croats without a serious fight. I spent my youth years, my best years, under sanctions, my father was mobilized in 1999, Serbia was destroyed from the outside and the inside. All thanks to Milosevic. I hope he dies and burns in hell for ever. Serbia has suffered under the Turks, Nazis, communists etc, but never has A SERB brought so much damage to HIS OWN people, until Milosevic came. I am sorry, but I have nothing good to say about him. He has destroyed the Serbian name, he has blackened our freedom loving history, he has destroyed us and robbed us. All I know is that we will be fixing Tito's and Milosevic's mistakes for the next 20 years. Some mistakes will never be fixed. Please forget Milosevic. Let's not argue between each other. We have to fight this guy Vlad from Romania who thinks he is so special. Ha ha ha ha! I wish you peace, my dear Serbian brother. With faith in God, Long live Serbia and Hellas!!!

Stefan SERB		29-Oct-2005 22:45
Belgrade also recently hosted the World Volleyball Championships had a huge beerfest in Kalemegdan. As for Milosevic I think he is a hero, he stood up to the ultimate force on Earth to protect Serbian holy land and citizens. We claimed a few small prizes along the way: an American F117a "invisible" stealth bomber, an F16 Fighter Jet, an American Humvee, Unexploded Clusterbombs (banned under the geneva convention) and more importantly we kept Kosovo for a few more years. When it leaves, I personally hope it is wiped of the map with Albania too, now that would be progress for the Balkans. It seems everwhere Albanians go they make some sort of shit: Kosovo-Metohija, Western Macedonia, North Western Greece they are the people that give the Balkans a bad name. They are the people we should be insulting if anyone. I be honest, I like Bucharest, and I like Belgrade but I don't like anyone to think they are better than us....because more often than not: they're not! LONG LIVE SRBIJA & ELLAS

Stefan SERB		29-Oct-2005 22:34
Bravo Alex iz Beograda, ne mogu ja bolje da kazem mu. Bas si dobar Srbin. Well done Alex from Belgrade, I can't say it better myself. You are a real good Serb. THE SERBS HAVE SPOKEN. LONG LIVE SERBIA & GREECE!!

Alex Belgrade		29-Oct-2005 22:04
For Vlad from Romania, DAYS OF ITALY IN BELGRADE Representatives of 450 Italian businesses have attended the Conference named "Days of Italy in Belgrade". US President Bush grants Serbia Preferred Trade Status This measure revokes custom duties on over 4,000 Serbian articles, giving manufacturers free access to the US market. Serbia-Montenegro Top Performer in 2004 World Bank September 19, 2005 The top 12 reformers in the past year, in order, were Serbia and Montenegro, Georgia, Vietnam, Slovakia, Germany, Egypt, Finland, Romania, Latvia, Pakistan, Rwanda, and the Netherlands. ETC

Alex Belgrade		29-Oct-2005 21:49
Vlad from Romania, Instead of promoting a Balkan cooperation, you have so much hate against Serbs. We have not had a war with Romania, what is your problem? As for Yugoslavia, it fell apart because of violent secession of various ethnic groups. Serbs wanted to preserve the Union because they gave 1 million lives for Yugoslavia. Serbs have said no to the Turks, to the Austrians, Bulgarians, Italians, Albanians, to Hitler, to Stalin, Serbs were the first to organize resistance in occupied Europe while Romania was a Nazi country, Serbs also said no to America. As for Belgrade, for your information, the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development had its annual conference and business forum in Belgrade. We also hosted Pavaroti and the European Basketball Championships. You can only be jealous. Phil Collins just had a concert a few days ago, and Boticelli will have his concert soon. The famous magician Copperfield was also in Belgrade recently. Etc. When the bombing took place because we defended our holy land - Kosovo, Romania was the first to offer its airports and bases to the Americans, so that they can attack as faster. Other than Dracula, Romania is not known for anything else. Serbs have given the world one Nikola Tesla, without whom even you Romanians would not have electricity. Serbs have given the world one Mihailo Pupin, a noted scientist, one Ivo Andric, a nobel prize winner for literature, basketball, soccer and waterpolo world champions. Etc. Serbia has given its frescos to the world several centuries before the Renaissance in Italy. Serbs have fought on the right side in both world wars, with an enemy many times stronger. I do not know why you have so much hate for Serbs? You obviously have never been to Serbia. You are full of shit, I am sorry to say, but you are. You got rid of your dictator 16 years or so ago, and Belgrade has got rid of its dictator 5 years ago. But, we have made more progress in 5 years, then you have in 16 years. The World Bank has graded Serbia as the top performer in reforms, just recently. As for the Gypsies, I have nothing against them, they are loyal citizens of this country. Where they come from, I don't know, but it is indicative that your country is called Romania. Doesn't that make you think? Romanians are generally cowards, and have played insignificant roles in both major conflicts. Come on, 16 years ago you had food rations and now you are telling me that you are doing better. I don't think so. But even if you are, I am happy for you. Serbia will recover and it will economically beat Romania, Bulgaria, Albania and the similar countries. Our challenge is Croatia, Hungary, the Czech Republic. As for Greece, mutual love, admiration and friendship exists between the Serbs and the Greeks, and vice versa, I was in Greece and I loved it. I have no desire to go to Romania. For me it's still a symbol of poverty, communism. And vampires :) Grow up, and get a life. Leave this forum and let us enjoy the beautiful photos of Belgrade. Feel free to make a Romanian site, but stop bothering us all. Vlad, do you get a kick out of insultiung people that did nothing to you? You are very rude and stupid, because you have started this first.

GREEK FRIEND OF SERBIA		29-Oct-2005 21:33
Stupid gipsy first learn english and then start posting or is this the best they can teach u?! HAHAAHAHA Second : all this bull shit stuff u mention exist in all countries(trade centers,roads,industrial zones).What is actually the point is which is the growth rate and in Serbia it's much bigger.After 16 years of "freedom" and "democracy" u live like gipsies even though some of u r not!Go back to your misery fantastic dream world where romania is Europe because in reality it will take u 20 years to be Europe.

cccc		29-Oct-2005 17:07
"YES, YES GREEK SHIT, YOU TRINK TOO UZU IN MY OPINION. YOU TALK ONLY BECAUSE YOU LOVE SERBIAN, OF COURSE YOU CAN'T SEE REALITY. IF YOU CAN TO SEE OUR TRADE CENTERS: PLAZA ROMANIA, IULIUS MALL, PRISMA ECC. THAT ARE IN ALL CITIES OF OUR COUNTRY, OUR SUN MOTORWAY, THE GREAT NEW INDUSTRIAL ZONE OF BANAT (12000 FOREIGN OCCIDENTAL INVESTITORS ONLY IN THIS AREA). IF YOU CAN TO SEE THE NEW TRAINS SAGEATA ALBASTRA THAT WE HAVE, IF YOU CAN TO SEE BUCURESTI NOU THE NEW QUARTIERS OF BUCHAREST, WHILE IN SERBIA, BELGRADE IS ONLY RUINES AFTER 7 YEARS. IF YOU CAN TO SEE ALL THIS YOU CAN BE A MEN AND NOT A STUPID DREAMER. OPEN YOUR EYES. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD." aaaahahahahahahhaha :))))))))))

Vlad		29-Oct-2005 17:03
YES, YES GREEK SHIT, YOU TRINK TOO UZU IN MY OPINION. YOU TALK ONLY BECAUSE YOU LOVE SERBIAN, OF COURSE YOU CAN'T SEE REALITY. IF YOU CAN TO SEE OUR TRADE CENTERS: PLAZA ROMANIA, IULIUS MALL, PRISMA ECC. THAT ARE IN ALL CITIES OF OUR COUNTRY, OUR SUN MOTORWAY, THE GREAT NEW INDUSTRIAL ZONE OF BANAT (12000 FOREIGN OCCIDENTAL INVESTITORS ONLY IN THIS AREA). IF YOU CAN TO SEE THE NEW TRAINS SAGEATA ALBASTRA THAT WE HAVE, IF YOU CAN TO SEE BUCURESTI NOU THE NEW QUARTIERS OF BUCHAREST, WHILE IN SERBIA, BELGRADE IS ONLY RUINES AFTER 7 YEARS. IF YOU CAN TO SEE ALL THIS YOU CAN BE A MEN AND NOT A STUPID DREAMER. OPEN YOUR EYES. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD.

GREEK FRIEND OF SERBIA		29-Oct-2005 16:17
looser romanian guest your ignorance is very dangerous.all these infos are full of inaccuracies.in SERBIA there aren't one million romas.Roma's mainly originate from Romania a poor country which heavily suffered from communism.Still in that country the results of that communistic model are more than evident with poverty and unemployment running high.Unemployment in Serbia isn't 30% as one stupid romanian mantioned.It is about 13% and is going down and the average salary is higher than in romania.Djincic was assasinated by some terrorists who are afraid of the progress and the democracy that are being established in Serbia the proud and praiseworthy nation.Terrorism unfortunately exsts everywhere even in USA and England.It is more than obvious that the cultural heritage of Serbia is dated more than 700 years and consists of monasteries as well as artistic work well known around the world.Serbia is well know for its contibute in cinema,painting,athletics,science and music with many famous artists and persons of culture and science having a great career and being famous for their contribution on art and culture.The dismemberment of former Yugoslavia took place for politics and only.Unfortunately Milocevic proved to be incapable and dangerous for the nation's sovereignity and safety.Serbia is paying the megalomania of a man who dreamed of something that could never come true.Serbs are friendly,civilized,hard-workers,of european mentality,educated and with great love and concern for their proud country and nation.Despite all the difficulties they faced during the last decade they have managed to stand up and to be in a better position than stupid romania which is free of Causescu for 16 years now but still nothing has been done for all the people who suffer from poverty,unemployment and corruction.The only things that rule in romania are corruption,human trafficking and exploitation,criminality and low leveled education.So please stupid romanians leave this forum and start thinking of how to escape from your misery and the complexes in which u r deeply digged in. GREECE AND SERBIA = FRIENDSHIP AND ALLIANCE FOR EVER

feel sorry for cigania		29-Oct-2005 15:08
Romania meens coutry of the Roma (gipsys) so pls *uck off !

Guest		29-Oct-2005 14:28
IF YOU LIKE DATES I'LL SATISFY YOU POOR IGNORANT PEOPLE. WE HAVE IN ROMANIA 2 MILLIONS GYPSIES, BUT IN A COUNTRY WITH 23 MILLIONS CITIZENS, THIS MEAN THAT GYPSY COMMUNITY IN ROMANIA IS IN A PERCENTAGE OF 9%, LESS THAN SERBIA THAT HAVE 1 MILLION GYPSY IN A TOTAL POPULATION OF 10 MILLIONS, 10% (SOURSE: WWW.ROMAMULTIETNICA.IT), THE SAME SOURSE SAY THAT SERBIAN GYPSY COMMUNITY HAVE A NAME: TRAJKOVIC. CNN, SAYS THAT IN KOSOVO, UCK KILLED VERY MUCH GYPSY BECAUSE THEY COLLABORATE WITH SERBS, (OF COURSE, ARE YOUR BLOOD BROTHERS). HOW CAN YOU SEE, STUPID SHIT SERB, YOU CAN'T TELL ME ABOUT DATES. WE KILLED CEAUSESCU 16 YEARS AGO, AND HE WAS A TYRAN, BUT IN SERBIA DIJNDIC WAS KILLED ONLY FEW YEARS AGO, AND HE WASN'T A TYRAN, UNDERSTAND? IF SERBIA IS A DEVELOPED AND A CIVIL COUNTRY, WHY MONTENEGRO WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT (THE ELECTION OF DUKANOVIC DEMONSTRE IT)? WHY EVERY EX YUGOSLAV COUNTRY WANT TO BE FREE FROM BELGRADE? YOU LOST IN THIS 15 YEARS, EVERY LANDS, SLOWENIANS, CROATIANS ECC... HATE TOU. NOW ALSO KOSOVO, GO AWAY...HOW IS SERBIA NOW? SEE THE REALITY: A HEAP OF RUINS. CORRIERE DELLA SERA SAYS THAT SERBS ARE THE MOST LOSER PEOPLE. THIS IS THE REALITY. GGOD BYE... TRAJKOVIC. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD.

Dimitris		29-Oct-2005 14:17
Alex Belgrade we will continue to be friends with you because we have so many things in common besides religion.We r really amazed from all the progress that has taken place since 1999 and we believe that u deserve to become full members of european union!We will be next 2 u during your effort towards integration as we were next 2 u all this time so far! GRSKA I SRBJIA VELIKI SAVEZ U EURORA!

Alex Belgrade		29-Oct-2005 10:27
Why does a beautiful site like this, dedicated to the photo gallery of a Balkan city have to turn political? It is the right of everyone to love or not love another city. Those that don't like the site can leave. Vlad from Romania, remember how you lived under communism? We were AMERICA compared to you. And even though we have suffered so much, Romania is still far behind Serbia. The only reason why you will join the EU before us is political. You have sold your ass to the Americans. But it is not because you are better than Serbia. That's a good joke. Ha ha. Thanks to Greece for being the only Balkan country that has ALWAYS been with us. The rest - Albania, Bulgaria, Romania. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Stefan SERB		28-Oct-2005 21:36
Just to confirm that Romania is a gypsy country: "Approximately 2 million Gypsies, or Roma, live in Romania, the world's largest Roma community." (fullpassport.com) DID YOU HEAR THAT VLAD? THE LARGEST GYPSY COMMUNITY IN THE WORLD IS IN ROMANIA SO DON'T TALK RUBBISH ANYMORE ABOUT SERBS BEING GYPSIES BECAUSE I HAVE THE FACTS MATE!! LONG LIVE SERBIA & GREECE!!

Stefan SERB		28-Oct-2005 20:48
Marshall Antonescu bow down to MARSHALL TITO!! It is even shameful that you are able to compare your shit country to a country that has undergone 10 years of sanctions, a civil war, economic collapse and a fierce NATO bombing campaign and still fall short of the greatness of Serbia. You mention the assasination od Djindjic but remember what happened to your former leader Chausesku long before Djindjic was killed. Romanians are of a Latin origin? HAHAHAHAHA, you are gypsies, nothing more. You are mistaken, Serbs and the rest of Europe call Romania 'cigani'. Give me your MSN address and I will send you a picture of a charity shop set up to donate to starving Romanian orphan children. In fact here is a website: http://www.relieffundforromania.co.uk/street_children.html And another: http://www.faracharity.org/FrameMain.htm Enjoy you gypsy, I will donate soon to help save your son and daughter on the streets of these shit cities that you speak of. LONG LIVE SERBIA & GREECE!!

funny vlad		28-Oct-2005 19:53
ps. WILL YOU GIVE FOOD TO STARVING ROMANIAN CHILDREN IF WE REBUILD OUR FEW BUILDINGS ? ps2. there is a gallery just of starving children on this site .... Over and out.

funny vlad		28-Oct-2005 19:50
ahahaha yes yes you have sooo high technological progres :)))) romania - gipsia, there lives the gipsy king : ))) You should feel shame you ROMANIAN (sounds soo bad.. romanian :)) ) Please don't be jealous couse we have food to eat at least. Last comment from FUNNY VLAD.

Vlad		28-Oct-2005 18:44
YOU TALK ABOUT OUR MENTALITY? YOU THINK THAT SERBIA IS A CIVILIZATE COUNTRY? OH THIS IS THE MOST GREAT JOKE. IF SERBIA IS A CIVIL COUNTRY, WHY SERBIAN KILLS THEMSELVES (REMEMBER DIJNDIC). A PRIME MINISTER WAS KILLED, ONLY IN AFRICA OR IRAQ EXIST THIS. IN SERBIA ( SOURSE: ANSA ITALY) EVERY WEEK CEMETERIES ARE PROFANATED, FOR STEAL AND FOR SELL THE COFFINS,AND IN YOUR OPINION THIS IS A CIVIL COUNTRY? SERBIA IS AFRICA OF THE BALKANS, AND STOP. WE DONATED YOU PETROL WHEN AMERICANS DESTROYED YOUR MISERABLE COUNTRY, FOR PIETY. ALSO KOSTUNICA IN A VISIT TWO YEARS AGO IN PORTILE DE FIER WAS IMPRESSED FOR OUR TECNOLOGIES PROGRESS IN THE OUR POWER STATION. AND AFTER THIS, I MUST BE JEALOUS FOR YOU? AH!AH!AH!AH!AH! I'M VERY SAD FOR YOU. REALLY. BECAUSE IT'S INCREDIBLE HOW THE BOMBS DESTROYED ALSO YOUR GYPSY SLAVIC MIND. DRACULA WASN'T SERBIAN, UNDERSTAND IDIOT? HIS NAME WAS VLAD TEPES A ROMANIAN NAME NOT SERBIAN, HE WAS WALLACH. LEARN THE HISTORY, BUFOON, OR WE'LL MUST DONATE YOU ALSO THE BOOKS BESIDES PETROL. OUR COUNTRY HAS UNESCO'S PATRIMONY AS BUCOVINA'S MONASTERIES AND THE SAXON MEDIEVAL'S VILLAGES. AND YOU? IN WHAT CONSIST YOUR CIVILIZATION? REPARE YOUR DESTROYES CAPITAL, BEFORE, AND AFTER YOU CAN TELL. IT'S A SHAME AFTER 7 YEARS THAT YOU ARE IN THAT CONDITIONS. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON GUARD. MARSHALL ANTONESCU FOR EVER WITH US!

Ana Filipovic		28-Oct-2005 18:01
Vlad, don't be proud of Dacia, it is a shit car make. Zastava is like mercedes compared to Dacia.

Zeljko		28-Oct-2005 16:59
Don't have a reply to my last comment do we smart ass Vlad. You failures, won't be seeing you in Germany 2006, hahahaha, unlucky gypsies.

GREEK FRIEND OF SERBIA		28-Oct-2005 15:13
romanians u r nothing more than a gipsy poor begging nation.Serbia is a nation with civilization,history,culture,pride and dignity principles that r unknown 2 u.All u care about is how 2 satisfy the americans pimps who exploit u all the time.WE GREEKS LOVE AND SUPPORT OUR BROTHERS FROM SERBIA.OUR FRIENDS FROM SERBIA WE R PROUD 2 HAVE U AS FRIENDS!MI SMO ZAJEDNO!GRSKA I SRBJIA VELIKI SAVEZ

FUNNY VLAD		28-Oct-2005 12:19
Vlad I know you are jealous, and I really feel sorry for you (being a romanian)... Yes, yes, yes, you have everything better than Serbia :) The most famous romanian thing is Dracula and we all know he was Serbian What about EU ? It will take you many many years just to change your gipsy romanian mentality, I've been to you capital and please DO NOT COMPARE IT WITH ANYTHING... Again I feel sorry for you being a romanian... you should be a shame

Vlad		28-Oct-2005 11:04
IF YOU THINK THIS, POOR YOU. IF THAT YOU SAY IS TRUE, WHY WE ROMANIANS AND BULGARIANS, WILL ENTER IN 2007 IN EU AND YOU ARE OUT? IF SERBIA IS BETTER THAN ROMANIA, WHY IN OUR COUNTRY ARE VERY MUCH TOURISTS EVERY YEARS, TO SEE OUR CASTELS, OUR MEDIEVAL CITIES, OUR SEA COAST, OUR MOUNTAINS, AND IN SERBIA ARE ONLY YOU? SO, I ACCEPT YOUR PROPOSAL, SEE THE GALLERIES OF BRASOV, OF TIMISOARA(WWW.PRIMARIATM.RO), OF CLUJ, OF BUCHAREST AND ROMANIA IN WWW.ABOUTROMANIA.COM(CARDS), OF SIBIU(WWW.SIBIU.RO), OF SIGHISOARA (WWW.SIGHIASOARA.COM) OF MEDIAS (WWW.PRIMARIAMEDIAS.RO), AND AFTER YOU'LL CAN KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN HISTORY, AN ARCHITECTURE, A CULTURE BETTER THAN YOURS. SERBIA IS ONLY BALKAN AND STOP. ROMANIA HAS A GREAT MITTLEUROPEAN INFLUENCES. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU NOW ARE SORRY FOR YOUR SITUATION. OF COURSE YOU HAVE NOW VERY MUCH INFERIORITY COMPLEXES BUT HOW CAN WE DO? TAKE BELGRADE AND PUT IT IN ASS, AFTER YOU'LL SEE ROMANIAN GALLERIES, UNDERSTAND SLAVS? TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON WARD.

Zeljko		28-Oct-2005 10:54
Well Vlad, Srbija is in the World Cup and Romania is not. HAHAHAAHHA

Funny Vlad no. 2		27-Oct-2005 22:35
I suggest anyone to see pics of Bucurest and compare it with Beograd... I think they are only jealous and stuped nothing more

Funny Vlad		27-Oct-2005 22:18
Vlad I am from Belgrade, AND recently I have been to Bukurest, AND HONESTLY, you are still far far far far far away from us, really, I'm not saying that couse I'm SERB. Don't be frustrated couse you can not still reach us, after 10 or more years of sanctions and poverty. You should be a shame just comparing with Serbia and Serbians ( I wouldn't say this if I havent been to Romania)

Vlad		27-Oct-2005 21:49
LISTEN YOU GORENAC. I'M HERE ONLY FOR REPLY TO THE STUPID GYPSY SLAVS AS YOU. YOU ARE A GORENAC GAY AND A GYPSY IGNORANT BECAUSE YOU MUST KNOW THAT SERBIA HAS HIS GREAT GYPSY COMMUNITY, IN EURONEWS I SAW LAST MONTH THAT IN TAORMINA (SICILY) A GANG OF SERBIAN GYPSIES KILLS A MAN, AND ONE OF THESE CRIMINALS NOW IS IN BELGRAD. ROMANIA NOT DERIVE FROM ROMA GYPSIES BUT FROM ROME, BECAUSE WE'RE A LATIN PEOPLE., WHILE SLAVS IN OCCIDENTAL COUNTRIES ARE CONSIDERED AS A SYNONIM OF GYPSY. ALSO BREGOVIC CALL HIS SERBIAN BANDS "CIGANY". YOU ARE A VERY GREAT IDIOT IF YOU THINK THAT YOUR AFRICAN TOWNS ARE BETTER THAN OUR TIMISOARA, CLUJ, IASI (THE FLORENCE OF EAST), OR BRASOV. YOUR MISERABLE COUNTRY IS (FROM FMI) THE MOST POOR COUNTRY IN BALKANS. NOW GO AWAY TO BE FUCKED BY THE TURKS (AS EVER). BY THE WAY OUR TROOPS ARE NOW IN KOSOVO, IN YOUR LOST LAND AND FUCKING YOUR WOMEN. YOU ARE A COWARDS PEOPLE BECAUSE AFTER THE WAR, MUCH OF YOU LEAVE FROM KOSOVO. AH!AH!AH!AH!AH! AFTER THE LOST OF BOSNIA, SLAVONIA AND KOSOVO, WHAT'S LEFT OF SERBIA, ONLY THE STUPID ISLAMIC GORENAC AS YOU. KISS OUR ASS, SLAVS. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON WARD. MARSHALL ANTONESCU KILLED MUCH OF YOUR GYPSY.

Stefan SERB		27-Oct-2005 20:27
Listen, I can't be bothered to have a deeply rooted debate on this but all I will say is that Romania is well known worldwide as being a gypsy nation and all the gypsy immigrants in serbia flee from Romania, they are called Gypsy Romas. If Serbia is really that bad, why are you on this gallery. Romania has had no sanctions or civil war yet our National Gross Per Capita stands higher than yours. Why would there possibly be charities set up in Serbia appealing to help Romanian street children that your government is reluctant to fund. And remember gypsy boy, if you don't like Serbi do not come and leave messages on the gallery of Serbia. LONG LIVE SERBIA & GREECE!

Vlad		27-Oct-2005 18:15
OH STEFAN YOU ARE A POOR SERBIAN BABY. WE ARE GYPSIES? AH!AH!AH!AH! AND YOU? SERBS ARE KNOW AS THE MOST GYPSY COUNTRY. IN THE MATCH ITALY-SERBIA IN NAPLES, ALL ITALIANS SING "SERBIAN SLAVIC GYPSIES". WE AREN'T YOU SLAVIC BROTHERS, BECAUSE WE ARE LATINS, NOT A FUCK SLAVIC GYPSY COUNTRY AS YOU. YOU TELL ABOUT BUCHAREST, BUT BEFORE YOU MUST SEE THE PALACES DESTROYED IN BELGRADE NEAR THE PARLAMENT. IN 7 YEARS YOU CAN'T REPAIRED THEM. IN SERBIAN ROADS AREN'T CARS (ONLY SOME OLD ZASTAVA), WHILE WE EXPORTING DACIA LOGAN. ONLY IN TIMISOARA ARE THOUSENDS OF OCCIDENTAL COMPANY, WHILE IN YOUR CAPITAL ONLY SOME SLOVENIAN INDUSTRIES. ALL THE COUNTRY NEAR YOU IN THESE 15 YEARS, ARE DEVELOPED, WHILE YOU THINKS ONLY TO KISS MILOSEVIC'S ASS. COME IN TIMISOARA OR IN TURNU SEVERIN TO SEE HOW MUCH SERBIAN COMING ILLEGALY HERE EVERY MONTH. WE'LL BE IN 2007 AN UE'S COUNTRY WHILE YOU'LL CRY FOR HUNGRY. BYE BYE JELAUS. TRAIASCA ROMANIA AND IRON WARD! FUCK SERBIA!

Stefan SERB		27-Oct-2005 16:44
Vlad, You Romanians are supposed to be our Slavic Brothers, yet you, along with every other country surrounding Serbia (except Greece) betrayed us and allowed the Americans to station their aircraft there so they could travel a shorter distance to bomb us. You are selfish cowards that don't care about Serbia and are much more interested in getting "in" with the US. You pussies, Romania is a gypsy fucking country, in Serbia we have charities set up to send money to Romanian orphans and street children. The US and Western Europe only want to use you and abuse you. You talk about sanctions and are war troubles, which Romania directly contributed to. SO FUCK ROMANIA - AKA Gypsy Land. LONG LIVE SERBIA & GREECE!!

Vlad		27-Oct-2005 16:02
STEFAN, IN ROMANIA THE INCREASE OF PIL EVERY YEAR SINCE 2000 IS 5%, LAST YEAR 8%. MY PRECEDENT AFFIRMATION WAS ONLY AN ANSWER TO LOSMI THAT SAW VERY MUCH STUPIDITIES AGAINST US. THE PROBLEMS IN SERBIA ARE GREATER THAT ROMANIA, BECAUSE IN SERBIA SINCE 1990 YOU HAVE WAR AND EMBARGO, BUT NOT IS OUR FAULT. IN THE EMBARGO'S YEARS WE SEND YOU PETROL, AND WE RECEIVED VERY MUCH SERBIAN PEOPLE (FROM SERBIAN BANAT, EXPECIALLY) WHEN AMERICANS BOMBS YOU. FOR THIS, WE CAN'T ACCEPTED THE STUPIDITIES OF SOME OF YOU. NOT EVEN SERBS THAT WORK IN OUR COUNTRY (EXPECIALLY IN TIMISOARA, ARAD AND PRAHOVA VALLEY), ACCEPTED LOSMI'S STUPIDITIES, I THINK, BECAUSE THEY FIND IN ROMANIA A FUTUR AND FRIENDS. WITHOUT RANCOUR, BUT IT'S TRUE.

Stefan SERB		27-Oct-2005 12:53
Vlad, It is true that our unemplyment is higher, but our GDP stands at a higher amount that Romania's. LONG LIVE SERBIA & GREECE!!

Vlad		26-Oct-2005 20:54
X Losmi1: I'm romanian and I know veery much serbs that work in Romania, because we'll be in 2007 member of EU and you have 32% of unemployment (in Romania only 6%). Serbia is destroyed after 15 of embargo and war. Shut up!

Dimitris		14-Oct-2005 13:38
My friends from Serbia!I would like to express my admiration about all the progress made during the last 5 years!The developmental rate is very high and the difference is more than obvious.Belgrade is a trully European city with all the details that make it praiseworthy and beautiful!I will never forget the time i spent in Belgrade and Novi Sad both as a student and as an employee!Only positive thoughts come to my mind!I strongly support your intense efforts towards the European integration.We will be close to you as we used to be all the time so far!Mi smo prijatelje!Srbjia i Grska = brate!

Alex		13-Oct-2005 23:16
To the author of the site Thank you for the photos. Very nice. Where are those beautiful traditional taverns located?! I am from Belgrade. It has everything you would expect from a European capital. It's somewhat rough on the edges, at first, not like Prague or Budapest, and of course, not like Paris or Rome, but there is still something charming about Belgrade. Once you get to know the place, you realise that it's the people, the cafes, the atmosphere in the streets, that makes this city so special. The nightlife is great, the prices are affordable, the people are friendly and hospitable, and the streets are buzzying with life. The architecture is a mixture of civilizations - from the ancient times (Kalemegdan) to the Turkish times (Princess Lljubica's Residence, Mosque), to the European-styled buildings of the 19th century (a beautiful exapmple is the Serbian Academy of Arts and Sciences), to the dull communist architecture, to the modern business buildings of the 21st century. Everything is there. It looks a bit thrown in without a particular sense or order. It's almost as if you can feel the clashes of civilizations in the air, of many turbulent centuries. Belgrade sits on the confluence of two rivers, and it has a lot of trees which is nice. I have lived here for many years and yet I always manage to discover something that I've missed before. A street, a detail on a building, a legend or story attached to a particular place... Of course, you have taken these in 2002. By now so many new buildings have sprung up. You do not have photos of the Serbian government building, the Ministry of Finance building and St. Marko's Church illuminated at night. Then, of the Belgrade Arena, of many business buildings in New Belgrade, of Tito's tomb, of the Royal Palaces, of those Latinos playing in the streets during the summer, or of a violin player in Knez Mihailova. You missed to show the McDonald's and Pizza Hut, just so people know we have them :) A few corrections: That building which you described as "federal president" budiling is not the building of the federal president, but of the Serbian president. The building of the federal president (Union of Serbia and Montenegro) is located in New Belgrade. That blue building is not a library. The city library is the building next to it. Of course, the exterior of the St. Sava temple has now been completed and with the fountain that changes colors at night, it's beautiful. One of the Sava bridges is also illuminated. What is missing are pictures of various monuments. So, come back to Belgrade and take some more pictures of the things that you have missed. And come back in the summer time, because there is so much rain in your photos :( What is especially missing are pictures of lovely ladies in Belgrade during the summer. Greetings from Belgrade and all the best, Alex

BelgradeBaby		09-Oct-2005 18:42
Belgrade is somthing nobady knows if you didn't live in a butiful city.Belgrade is so butiful and i miss my Belgrade 442 do Beograda!!!

lee coleman		02-Oct-2005 21:44
belgrade is the new ibiza ! i have lived in london most of my adult life , belgrade is cheaper , friendly , safer and totally up for it ! get there winter or summer . Lee Coleman (new zealand)

posetilac		11-Aug-2005 19:45
Milos je pravi srbin

Srbin		09-Aug-2005 08:52
Samo jedna stvar, ovo nije sajt, ovo je foto galerija. A ti Milose se sledeci put zapitaj kad kazes da je covek dosao iz neke palanke kojih u Srbiji ima i previse. Covek je iz Atine koja je veca od Beograda zar ne? Ne treba da trazis na ovakvim mestima profesionalni izgled sajta ili ne znam ni ja sta. Ovo je jedna foto reportaza putnika namernika i nista vise i kao takvo i treba da se postuje. Long live Greece and Serbia Friends forever

Tom		08-Aug-2005 10:37
3 weeks ago I went to Belgrade. It really is one of my favorite cities. I love the place and the people. Serbs are great people! Greets Tom (Netherlands)

Aleksandar-Aleksandros		30-Jul-2005 12:46
ΓΕΙΑ ΣΟΥ ΦΙΛΕ!ΤΙ ΚΑΝΕΙΣ; ΚΑΛΑ ΕΙΜΑΙ!ΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΟ ΠΟΛΥ for nice pictures of Belgrade you had made!Hope you'll come again in Serbia & Belgrade and update this gallery.Best regrads from brothers' land of Serbia!Viva la ΕΛΛΑΣ! ps.st.Sava's temple is now finished+you should took a photo of a beautiful Greek embassy.It's just 200m from the Republic Square!

Drago		08-Jul-2005 16:38
Taj "Grk" se zove Ilias, i uspeo je da napravi zaista lepu prezentaciju o Beogradu. Momak da nije imao simpatije za Beograd, sigurno ne bi pokrenuo sve ovo. Uspeo je da uhvati Beograd u jednom momentu u vremenu, i sto se sada nekome ne svidja taj Beograd, to je njegova stvar, ali to je taj Beograd i drugacijeg ga nema. Congratulations to Ilias for his famous pics of Belgrade! Metaxa and gyros (or sljivovica and cevapcici) waits for you... ;-)

M.M		05-Jul-2005 19:40
Slike su izusetno interesantne ali ne pokazu pravilnu sliku Beograda. Grk nije se konzentrisao da slika sva vazna i zanimljiva mesta, mozda nije ni znao sta sve ima u Beogradu. Ja mogu samo da preporucujem svima koji zele da vide Beograd da posete web stranicu http://zivotic.com/photo/top.asp?G=Beograd) i bicete iznenaceni da ima mnogo lepsije slike od Beograda u internetu. Ali bez obzira na to zahvalujem se grckom gospodinu za ovu lepu prezentaziju.

Nikola		01-Jul-2005 11:08
Milose, molim te da umuknes. Ovaj sajt je uradio Grk i to za jedan vikend. A ti probaj da napravis bolji za krace vreme, sa svojom pamecu. Ovo je stvarno odlican sajt za prvo upoznavanje sa Beogradom, a sto se tice tvojih komentara, svaka cast. Na internetu svako moze da postavi sta hoce, ali ti ga pretera.

Milo�		20-Jun-2005 21:40
Molio bih da mi autor ovog sajta oprosti na kritici ali ja stvarno mislim da je mogao mnogo, mnogo bolje i maštovitije da uradi prezentaciju našega grada. Ovo mi sve deluje veoma sterilno, nemaštovito i neinteresantno. Pre 4-5 meseci sam video sajt o našem prelepom Beogradu koji je uradjen i postavljen na web i koji sam sa velikim zadovoljstvom slao mojim internet prijateljima širom sveta. Mogu reci da su svi bili oduševljeni Beogradom. Ja mislim da je to najbolji sajt o Beogradu koji je ikada uradjen. Na veliku žalost tog sajta više nema i ja samo mogu da se po kozna koji put zapitam: Zašto mi Srbi proganjamo ono najbolje što imamo da bi dali šansu osrednjim uobraženim palančanima koji su umislili da su oni mali bogovi samim time što su uspeli da dodju u Beograd i tu kao prodju kroz neki fax, pitam se samo da li je taj fax prošao kroz njih, i da njih niko ne sme da dira dok se proganjaju oni najbolji. Sada me je stvarno sramota da pošaljem ovako loše uradjen sajt bilo kome. Dokle ćemo mi Srbi da robujemo onim najlošijima dok nam najbolji odlaze odavde samo zbog kojekakvih provincijskih sujeta kojih je i moj Beograd na žalost prepun. Ovaj sajt nije radio Beogradjanin koji voli i poznaje svoj grad i njegovu dušu već neko ko je došao iz neke malecne palankice kakvih u Srbiji ima previše i nije umeo da oseti pravi duh i pravu dušu ovoga grada. Na žalost takvi nam i najviše prljaju, ruže i uništavaju naš Beograd koji bi bez njih sigurno postao prava atrakcija za strane turiste i sve ljude dobre volje ovoga malecnoga sveta. Izvinjavam se autoru sajta na ovako lošoj kritici ali šta ću, takav sam. Ne podnosim kada neko nešto radi eto samo zato da bi nešto bilo uradjeno. Ja volim i cenim KVALITET a ne kvantitet. Pozdrav autoru ovog sajta.

Canada		12-May-2005 05:37
Where is House of the flowers

Dalibor		01-May-2005 19:53
Sjajno, svaka cast. Na jednom mestu sve ove slike. Sada eto mogu i svojoj zeni da pokazem zasto smo mi Evropljani drugaciji. Dalibor Chicago

Alessandra		10-Apr-2005 22:34
Hi people, I love all those pictures, on June I´m gonna visit my boyfriend´s family there, I´m so glad now, because I will know that beautiful place.Thanks!!!

Losmi1		09-Mar-2005 23:47
You silly ROmanians only introduced visas for Serbia becuase of pressure from so-called European Union. Of course, we responded in kind. TOday, at ROmanian embassies and consulates in Serbia, its like a ghost town. But at the Serbian embassies/consulate in Bucharest/Temisvar, the lines are hundreds of meters long:D Nobody in Serbia has a reason to go to Romania now, while thousands of Romanians work in Serbia, because of our better salaries.

Razvan		09-Feb-2005 22:41
it's a good job you've done here,especially since i planned on doing that myself when i was living in Bucharest,going over and doing a session with what Belgrade has to offer.Unfortunately the Serbian government decided to show off and introduce visas for Romanians just to annoy us further (after we did the same to them) and so i'm not gonna go there until they lift those stupid visas.Quite bizarre,not needing a visa to go to Germany or Switzerland and needing one for..Serbia..

wendl		18-Dec-2004 15:29
hello everybody. i've been in belgrade on holiday in spring. i've found some photos of places where i've been, that's fantastic! every city should have a homepage with such a gallery. congratulations and thanks a lot!!!

maksa		09-Dec-2004 23:27
dragi nasi beogrdjani.strasno mi milo da ipak neko misli na nase gradjane koje se nalaze van nase zemlje da i mi mozemo da vidimo nas dragi grad i da ozivimo nasu memoriju i drage uspomene iz detinjstva.bilo gde da smo i bilo gde da zivimo B E O G R AD je u nasoj dusi do kraja naseg zivota.BOG da cuva nasu YUGU i da budemo SLOZNI.MAKSA iz PARIZA.CAO SVIMA. I HVALA ZA LEPE SLIKE.

SaleNZ		25-Nov-2004 12:29
Efharisto poli file mu. Na eise kala. Ellada Servia Simahia.

Natasa		20-Nov-2004 20:15
CaO ja sam natasa i imam 13 godina i rodjena sam u SRBIJI. Slike su ovde prelepe i iako sam u Americi nikad necu zaboraviti svoj Grad Beagrad. Jako mi nedostaje i uvek cu ga voleti. ;) Hlava i opet slike su fantasticne

Jelena		09-Nov-2004 00:50
SUZE, SUZE I SUZE SAME PADAJU. LEP SI BEOGRADE I UVEK SI BIO I BICES. SAMO JE TUZNO STO NAS ZEMLJA NASA TERA DA TE NAPUSTIMO I PLACEMO OVAKO NEGDE U DALEKOJ TUDJINI OD TUGE ZA TOBOM. BELGRADE IS EVERYTHING WHAT I WAS, I AM AN I WILL BE. WHETEVER I AM I THINK ABOUT YOU. I'LL HOPE THAT I'LL BE THERE SOON TO KISS THE GROUND WHERE ARE YOU MY LOVLY HOMETOWN.

gordana		03-Nov-2004 18:02
MISLIM DA STE VEOMA SLABO PRIKAZALI GRAD BEOGRAD,I DA JE TO MOGLO MNOGO STRUCNIJE,JER JE BEOGRAD DOSTA LEPSI NEGO STO STE PRIKAZALI.NADAM SE DA CETE SE U BUDUCNOSTI POTRUDITI DA TO BUDE MALO BOLJE,JER KAD JE COVEK VAN SVOJE ZEMLJE I SVOGA GRADA ZELJA MU JE DA I DRUGIM LJUDIMA PRIKAZE SVOJ GRAD U PRAVOM SVETLU KAKAV ON JESTE.

Milica Knezevich		05-Oct-2004 01:39
My lifelong dream is to visit the country of my ancestors and find many of my family there. A picture of my father Bogdan with his mother on the stairs of the federal parliament like the one shown here makes my heart ache to go there. Hvala mnogo za slica.

Mikkah		24-Sep-2004 09:07
Man, you got yourself a helluva gallery! Really great! Congratulations! Next time you're in Belgrade, feel free to contact me - you have a drink on me, for the good work :0) Cheers!

jelena		10-Sep-2004 01:28
I'm in the United States at the moment, but these pictures made me feeling really homesick! I can really be proud of my city and show these pictures to all my American friends. Thanks!!!

Sophie		25-Aug-2004 10:39
I live in France and I have family in Beograd and in Serbia. These pictures make me want to go there as soon as possible . Thanks

DM		29-Jul-2004 09:37
Amazing.... I am Russian, but I've been to Belgrade many times and like it very much.. For some reason that's the only city in the world I hate when I am there and miss it so crazily when I am out of it...Thanks for pictures!

Vera		25-Jun-2004 14:34
Hvala veliko na prelepim fotografijama. Vidim dosta toga se promenilo ali i renoviralo za poslednjih 15 godina od kada sam ja otisla. Osecam veliku nostalgiju dok gledam ove prelepe fotografije Beograda. Jos jednom - mnogo hvala.

Natasa		16-Apr-2004 04:12
Wow! That's all I can really say. I live in Canada and I am so glad that I was able to find a place where I can view beautiful images of my country. Thanks so much! I miss it even more now. :) - Natasa

Sanda		09-Apr-2004 06:32
This just made me very sad. I left Belgrade 5.5 yrs. ago (and moved to US)and I have not visited that beautiful city since then. These pictures are breath-taking.Thank you so very much for these AWESOME pictures, now I get to show everyone (who doesn't know) how beautifyl that city is. Mnogo hvala na predivnim slikama Beograda.

Mirjana K.		03-Apr-2004 18:05
Óå åõ÷áñéóôù ðïõ ìïõ åäùóåò ôçò åéêïíåò ôçò ðïëçò ìïõ.

Laurie DeGrio Mattson		21-Mar-2004 04:40
This is extraordiary!! What a Beautiful city, and the photographs depict it well. I hope to travel there someday. A dear friend of mine, Dushan Knezevich, is Serbian, and professes how much he loves it and that it feels like home to him. I got a small glimpse of the people, architecture, and culture. Thankyou for a beautiful web site. God Bless. Laurie DeGrio Mattson .... Duluth, Minnesota

Jen		06-Mar-2004 07:59
Belgrade Serbia has much better pictures than Belgrad Minnesota USA !!! I can't wait to visit it some day. ps: Belgrade Minnesota has population of 750 people. - Love Jen

Guest		10-Feb-2004 00:52
Thank you very much, Marko

Patrick M		23-Jan-2004 23:11
More than 5 years ago I've visited the city. Unfortunately, I didn't have my camera with me. Now, I feel great. In a way I have rediscovered it again. Thanks for sharing these pictures!

Nikoleta		15-Dec-2003 16:04
Evo, i ja se ponekad bavim sa fotografijom, najvise i zbog studije. I mogu ti reci, da ja do sad nikad nisam uspela uraditi ovakve slike! Predivne su! svaka cast. ;-)

Nikola Radosavljevic		08-Dec-2003 16:36
This is one of the largest galleries of the Belgrade pictures on the net and, I am sure, the largest one that contains the pictures shot by one person. I would like to shake your hand for that. Keep on the good work, the pictures are great!

Vlada Marinkovic		25-Nov-2003 11:35
Hello Elias again, Thank you for sharing very nice pictures of Belgrade. In our language should be " Knez Mihajlova " or " Kneza Mihajla ", not Kneza Mihajlova. I have my gallery of Belgrade as well as of Egypt, you could take a look. Regards, Vlado

SVAKA CAST		18-Nov-2003 05:46
PRELEPE SLIKE U PRELEPO DOBA GODINE! NAS GRAD JE DALEKO NAJLEPSI.....HVALA MAJSTORE! Thank you, Elias, hope you enjoyed our city.

Guest		04-Oct-2003 09:37
lots of thanks for the photos of beautiful Belgrade John Young

sonja		27-Jun-2003 13:40
very, very nice. 2 enormous faults, though. Not catedral, but Saborna Church. Not princess Ulica, but knjeginja Ljubica. For the rest congratulations, Elias.

Ljoka		27-Jun-2003 10:45
Jebem ti mater latinsku

Lillyana		17-Jun-2003 03:24
Dear Ellias, My name is Lilly and I am the resident of Melbourne in Australia... I was born in Belgrade and I used to Live in a street called, Janka Lisijaka, which I understand does NOT exist anymore... I am amazed how My City has Changed, since I left it in 1962/63... Thank you for the Lovely Pictures, I have now passed the info about your Site to all my friends here in Australia... Yassus, and Ef haristo... Hvala mnogo...

Ivana		06-Jun-2003 21:50
ja stvarno neznam sta da kazem osim da ste mi ulepsali ovaj dan i svaka vam cast za slike prelepe su!!!

Petar		03-Jun-2003 13:33
BEAUTIFUL! Thank you very much...

milica		21-May-2003 03:20
The pictures of Belgrade are amazing. Thank you, Elias!

KOHoAK		19-May-2003 03:45
Brother, this is AWESOME! Realy great photos! Not even many Belgradians managed to do what You just did!! Consider yourself a honorary Belgradian!! ;-)) Thanx a lot!

Uros Nenadic		18-May-2003 19:10
A nostalgic reminder of something left behind, many, many years ago, but somehow still being a part of me. Thank you Elias for walking me through my past in silence and allowing me to comment from within.

marko		18-May-2003 15:31
zivim u kneza milosa,ali ovaj lik nije slikao shtekove!!!!

Uros		13-May-2003 22:07
Thank You Elias for those wonderful pictures of my city!

Maki Bre		09-May-2003 08:04
NICE PAGE BUDDY, IS PICTURES LIKE THESE THAT MAKE ME WANNA MOVE BACK TO BELGRADE, SERBIA RIGHT AWAY ... AND I WILL SOON! .. BELGRADE IS THE PIMPEST CITY IN THE WORLD! RESPECT FO ALL MA SERBIAN SOLDAZ WORLD-WIDE! ...

Iwdza		07-May-2003 12:15
Congratulation Elias,it`s better then official Belgrade Internet Sites! Thank You for nice Gallery!

Guest		06-May-2003 20:45
I love Belgrade... I love my city... Thank you Elias!

Vesna		06-May-2003 19:54
the best ever

Tanja Anicic		05-May-2003 18:13
Thank you Elias sooo much for the pictures of my beloved Belgrade.It was a feast for eyes and food for soul.Tanja

Dina		05-May-2003 00:34
This is the BEST GALLERY of Belgrade pictures I've ever seen!!!:)

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